> What’s next in this crises is the question that many are asking and the possibilities are variable. Politically speaking the incumbent Mr. Yanukovich is still the leader of the Ukraine ,his ousting from office was due to an extremists coup d’état which is illegal and unconstitutional .There are three ways for the PM to be legally replaced – (a) if he dies ,(b) if he resigns and (c) by Impeachment . Mr. Yanukovich didn’t resign nor is he incapacitated ,so that leaves the impeachment question .Its interesting to note that shortly after the coup d’état one of the first things that the putschists did was reshuffle the judges within the courts . This was done to give the impeachment ‘legitimacy’ to the eyes of the unsuspecting and to promote a Puppet as the legitimate ‘interim leadership’. There is nothing that qualifies a coup d’état as an ‘legitimate’ act in supplanting a ‘legally’ elected leader of a country. This has become one of the major sticking points of the US State department with regards to A. Yatsenyuk and the State Depts. insistence that the Russian Government negotiate with their puppet ; but President Putin is not ‘buying’ it ,for good reason .The reason behind the Russian logic is rather simple ,if per chance that the Russians negotiate with the coup installed ‘official’ it would give this ‘person’ legitimacy and hence the coup perpetrated by US support. Mr. ‘Yats ‘ on the other hand has no legality to hold the ‘title’ that he claims that was bestowed upon him and the Ukrainian nation through dubious means . Neither Mr. Yanukovich or Mr. Yatsenyuk have much popular support in the Ukraine at the moment and neither would win an election if it is indeed held cleanly.
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> The other sticking point that is not much in the MSM is the March 06 meeting of the European Council ” Statement of the Heads of State or Government on Ukraine”. Which stipulates the ‘signing of the political chapters ‘ concerning the Association Agreement before the Ukrainian elections slated for the 25th of May. Now does that mean that regardless ‘whomever ‘ is elected into office that the ‘political chapters ‘ will have precedence with regards to the Association Agreement? If that is the case than the crises would have come full circle because the Association Agreement is what initiated the crises to begin with . The Russian Govt. proposed a trilateral negotiating position to this impasse way back in November after the Association Agreement was refused by the Ukrainian Govt . The agreement can be described more as a Diktat than anything else because the Russian proposal was flatly and deliberately rejected without any considerations towards Russia’s interests and the complexity of Russia’s and The Ukraine’s economy.
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> This crises is going to have to come full circle before it is resolved ,the other options parroted by the Neocons is much too dangerous to even consider .Playing ‘off ‘ the Slavic People for geopolitical aggrandizement and IMF investors wealth brings back memories of World War II and in this case -far worse- the prospect of a showdown between Superpowers is a possibility and the losers once again will be the Slavic People along with the Baltic States . NATO will never be acceptable to the Russians in Ukraine neither the lands East of the Dnieper river becoming IMF pillaging zones because ultimately the disease will spread to Russia .
First of all, Yanukovich was not a PM but president. And new president was elected by new parlament, which is legal. And new parlament elections were considered valid by Russia (http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/231077.html).
I don’t agree that the actions against Kolomoyski and Yatsenyuk are a sign of weakness. Almost every revolution knows that kind of purges (see for example Trotsky). It has to do with the kind of people that engages in revolutions: intolerant people who are not very inclined to compromise and who do like using extralegal means and violence. Such people will have a tendency to see each other as a rival or a threat once the revolution has succeeded.
As I see it Kolomoyski’s greed had become an obstacle against the transit to a war economy. In addition very likely the US military advisors don’t like the militias because they can’t control them. That this may at least in the short term have disadvantages (I read somewhere that many foreign fighters have left) they seem to take in stride.
The first round – the fight over two gas companies – ended in a kind of draw: Kolomoyski lost some power but kept some too. Now it seems that round two has been opened by attacking his ally Yatsenyuk and by re-opening a criminal investigation against Kolomoyski. The alliance between Yarosh and Poroshenko very likely is purely opportunistic: Poroshenko doesn’t have much choice.
Mmm… I’m not even sure about that. Oligarchs were in power pre Maidan, and remain post Maidan. Democracy such as it was in Ukraine has been overthrown though, with the violent support of nationalist/nazi forces long in the preparation. No revolution there in the sense of profound economic and political change in leadership.
“According to our intelligence, from Dnepropetrovsk drove cars with people dressed as the Russian military form. We fear that the Ukrainian security forces under the guise of Russian troops prepared another provocation in the territory of Ukraine “, – told the agency “Donetsk news agency”.
Earlier, the DNR announced in the Ukrainian army captured a document containing a plan to destabilize the situation in the frontal zone and discrediting of New Russia in the eyes of international observers. The sending it provides the front line of a large number of subversive groups.
Deputy commander of the Ministry of Defense Corps DNR Edward Basurin reported that abandoned on the territory of the People’s Republic of Donetsk sabotage and reconnaissance groups Ukrainian security services ordered, in particular, for purposes of provocation to fire public places.
The provocations r us dept of the ZPC/NWO has been quite busy. Sounds like the zionazis will stage multiple provocations to initiate their next offensive against Novorussia.
There is a story I heard from WW2 that fits into what needs to be done here.It seems before the Tehran Conference,the Soviets found out that a contingent of German commandos were infiltrating Iran with plans to attack the conference and kill the assembled leaders there.They sent a contingent of Soviet MOI troops to hunt them.They located them and eliminated every single German.
The other allies and the Iranians were never told about the German infiltration.The Soviets were afraid the Western allies would have either cancel the conference or put so many extra troops around.That the Germans would realize they knew about the plot and strike quicker and with a different plan,before they could be neutralized.The Germans had allied uniforms for their commando Brandenburg unit troops.And the more allied troops around the meeting would have made it harder to locate who were the Germans.
While the Soviets didn’t trust the Iranians to not spill the beans to the Germans.For today’s problem,the VSN needs to locate these Ukie troops and quietly dispatch them as well.No publicity,they are just eliminated.After the Tehran failure the Germans were reluctant to send units like that again.They had just vanished,leaving the German HQ with no knowledge of what happened to them (though after a while I’m sure they guessed).
Do you have any other source than your thumb? Google tells nothing. But I am sure you can provide a link.
But I would agree with you, that if that story was true, the same treatment should be applied to the mob in Kiev and most of all, kick out all American ‘advisers’ from Eurasia. And if we need the Chinese to do that, all the better. And from the Middle East, to begin with Saudi-Arabia. That’s what’s next on the geopolitical menu. It is time the world gets real tough with the imperialist self-styled ‘exceptionalists’. Don’t take it personally.
This avoided what the war is over. It wasn’t about Nuland not knowing history or the EU negotiators not knowing that the Ukraine would die with the EU deal. It is about power. American power over Europe and German industrial power over Eastern Europe. And the loss of American domination of the world soon, and the US needing a way to keep it. And the war to break up Russia, which major elements in Europe support.
So this feels like an appeal that gives Europeans a way to attack supposed stupidity and save face by stopping short of a big war. That is fine as far as it goes, but isn’t really honest in a certain sense.
Written in March of 2014
> What’s next in this crises is the question that many are asking and the possibilities are variable. Politically speaking the incumbent Mr. Yanukovich is still the leader of the Ukraine ,his ousting from office was due to an extremists coup d’état which is illegal and unconstitutional .There are three ways for the PM to be legally replaced – (a) if he dies ,(b) if he resigns and (c) by Impeachment . Mr. Yanukovich didn’t resign nor is he incapacitated ,so that leaves the impeachment question .Its interesting to note that shortly after the coup d’état one of the first things that the putschists did was reshuffle the judges within the courts . This was done to give the impeachment ‘legitimacy’ to the eyes of the unsuspecting and to promote a Puppet as the legitimate ‘interim leadership’. There is nothing that qualifies a coup d’état as an ‘legitimate’ act in supplanting a ‘legally’ elected leader of a country. This has become one of the major sticking points of the US State department with regards to A. Yatsenyuk and the State Depts. insistence that the Russian Government negotiate with their puppet ; but President Putin is not ‘buying’ it ,for good reason .The reason behind the Russian logic is rather simple ,if per chance that the Russians negotiate with the coup installed ‘official’ it would give this ‘person’ legitimacy and hence the coup perpetrated by US support. Mr. ‘Yats ‘ on the other hand has no legality to hold the ‘title’ that he claims that was bestowed upon him and the Ukrainian nation through dubious means . Neither Mr. Yanukovich or Mr. Yatsenyuk have much popular support in the Ukraine at the moment and neither would win an election if it is indeed held cleanly.
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> The other sticking point that is not much in the MSM is the March 06 meeting of the European Council ” Statement of the Heads of State or Government on Ukraine”. Which stipulates the ‘signing of the political chapters ‘ concerning the Association Agreement before the Ukrainian elections slated for the 25th of May. Now does that mean that regardless ‘whomever ‘ is elected into office that the ‘political chapters ‘ will have precedence with regards to the Association Agreement? If that is the case than the crises would have come full circle because the Association Agreement is what initiated the crises to begin with . The Russian Govt. proposed a trilateral negotiating position to this impasse way back in November after the Association Agreement was refused by the Ukrainian Govt . The agreement can be described more as a Diktat than anything else because the Russian proposal was flatly and deliberately rejected without any considerations towards Russia’s interests and the complexity of Russia’s and The Ukraine’s economy.
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> This crises is going to have to come full circle before it is resolved ,the other options parroted by the Neocons is much too dangerous to even consider .Playing ‘off ‘ the Slavic People for geopolitical aggrandizement and IMF investors wealth brings back memories of World War II and in this case -far worse- the prospect of a showdown between Superpowers is a possibility and the losers once again will be the Slavic People along with the Baltic States . NATO will never be acceptable to the Russians in Ukraine neither the lands East of the Dnieper river becoming IMF pillaging zones because ultimately the disease will spread to Russia .
the ukraine has become a concentration camp:
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/pb.1452285018328179.-2207520000.1428771853./1634246930131986/?type=1&theater
First of all, Yanukovich was not a PM but president. And new president was elected by new parlament, which is legal. And new parlament elections were considered valid by Russia (http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/231077.html).
I don’t agree that the actions against Kolomoyski and Yatsenyuk are a sign of weakness. Almost every revolution knows that kind of purges (see for example Trotsky). It has to do with the kind of people that engages in revolutions: intolerant people who are not very inclined to compromise and who do like using extralegal means and violence. Such people will have a tendency to see each other as a rival or a threat once the revolution has succeeded.
As I see it Kolomoyski’s greed had become an obstacle against the transit to a war economy. In addition very likely the US military advisors don’t like the militias because they can’t control them. That this may at least in the short term have disadvantages (I read somewhere that many foreign fighters have left) they seem to take in stride.
The first round – the fight over two gas companies – ended in a kind of draw: Kolomoyski lost some power but kept some too. Now it seems that round two has been opened by attacking his ally Yatsenyuk and by re-opening a criminal investigation against Kolomoyski. The alliance between Yarosh and Poroshenko very likely is purely opportunistic: Poroshenko doesn’t have much choice.
Sorry, what took place in the Ukraine last year was not a revolution but a counterrevolution.
Mmm… I’m not even sure about that. Oligarchs were in power pre Maidan, and remain post Maidan. Democracy such as it was in Ukraine has been overthrown though, with the violent support of nationalist/nazi forces long in the preparation. No revolution there in the sense of profound economic and political change in leadership.
Looks like another Israeli-American provocation exposed.
Минобороны ДНР заявило о возможных провокациях с использованием военной формы ВС России (Defense Ministry announced DNR possible provocations with military uniforms Russian Armed Forces)
“According to our intelligence, from Dnepropetrovsk drove cars with people dressed as the Russian military form. We fear that the Ukrainian security forces under the guise of Russian troops prepared another provocation in the territory of Ukraine “, – told the agency “Donetsk news agency”.
Earlier, the DNR announced in the Ukrainian army captured a document containing a plan to destabilize the situation in the frontal zone and discrediting of New Russia in the eyes of international observers. The sending it provides the front line of a large number of subversive groups.
Deputy commander of the Ministry of Defense Corps DNR Edward Basurin reported that abandoned on the territory of the People’s Republic of Donetsk sabotage and reconnaissance groups Ukrainian security services ordered, in particular, for purposes of provocation to fire public places.
The provocations r us dept of the ZPC/NWO has been quite busy. Sounds like the zionazis will stage multiple provocations to initiate their next offensive against Novorussia.
There is a story I heard from WW2 that fits into what needs to be done here.It seems before the Tehran Conference,the Soviets found out that a contingent of German commandos were infiltrating Iran with plans to attack the conference and kill the assembled leaders there.They sent a contingent of Soviet MOI troops to hunt them.They located them and eliminated every single German.
The other allies and the Iranians were never told about the German infiltration.The Soviets were afraid the Western allies would have either cancel the conference or put so many extra troops around.That the Germans would realize they knew about the plot and strike quicker and with a different plan,before they could be neutralized.The Germans had allied uniforms for their commando Brandenburg unit troops.And the more allied troops around the meeting would have made it harder to locate who were the Germans.
While the Soviets didn’t trust the Iranians to not spill the beans to the Germans.For today’s problem,the VSN needs to locate these Ukie troops and quietly dispatch them as well.No publicity,they are just eliminated.After the Tehran failure the Germans were reluctant to send units like that again.They had just vanished,leaving the German HQ with no knowledge of what happened to them (though after a while I’m sure they guessed).
“There is a story I heard”
Do you have any other source than your thumb? Google tells nothing. But I am sure you can provide a link.
But I would agree with you, that if that story was true, the same treatment should be applied to the mob in Kiev and most of all, kick out all American ‘advisers’ from Eurasia. And if we need the Chinese to do that, all the better. And from the Middle East, to begin with Saudi-Arabia. That’s what’s next on the geopolitical menu. It is time the world gets real tough with the imperialist self-styled ‘exceptionalists’. Don’t take it personally.
Kind regards,
Dutch
This avoided what the war is over. It wasn’t about Nuland not knowing history or the EU negotiators not knowing that the Ukraine would die with the EU deal. It is about power. American power over Europe and German industrial power over Eastern Europe. And the loss of American domination of the world soon, and the US needing a way to keep it. And the war to break up Russia, which major elements in Europe support.
So this feels like an appeal that gives Europeans a way to attack supposed stupidity and save face by stopping short of a big war. That is fine as far as it goes, but isn’t really honest in a certain sense.