Sounds like a US “Black Maidan” emerging — or do we refer to it as a “Revolution of Color”?
So did Putin ‘do it’ as well with some hidden ‘Soviet’ snipers? (After all he only had to copy the strategy set by certain actors in Kiev 2014!) — can we expect more US sanctions on Russia?
A Black Maidan, or another false flag? Could it be another match to ignite that long sought race war that will finally break open explosive cultural tensions, crack down on all dissent, and get those FEMA camps running as Murka decides to pursue the Samson options ’cause it’s plans are failing everywhere?
Or maybe it’s just payback from someone a bit too pissed off? Profiling police in uniform is easy.
Hard to say at this point. Events like this, though, almost seem overdetermined as the social cracks deepen, branch, and start to break.
Anything is possible — e.g., see Charles Manson’s Helter Skelter scenario as an apocalyptic war arising from racial tensions between blacks and whites. The Tate/LaBianca murders were meant to help kickstart it.
However, I suspect they’ll ‘legalise’ weed fast enough to dope down the potential threat from the down-trodden outrage.
“Cookies” — yes, yes, yes!!! … can’t wait to see Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov handing out cookies (or is it brownies?) in Ferguson! Can we help crowd fund it?
Undoubtedly Russia is again the target of a “Crusade” by the West. It is the last in a long series of religiously or ideologically motivated assaults. The memes Light vs Darkness, Order vs Chaos, Rule of Law vs Arbitrary, Good Empire vs. Evil Empire is deeply entrenched in Western psyche. Russia is the Evil Empire and fighting against it is a moral imperative. The Western identity is constructed around the fight against the Darkness of the East (as if the Sun rises from the west!). They would try again and again no matter past failures. This is proof of insanity (Einstein definition: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results). They delude themselves that they are in control.
Or, as Dmitri Orlov put it: In situations that involve politics or military matters, applying the same control measure twice is about as effective as telling the same joke twice to the same audience: you become the joke.
The last US Administration to pay lip service to legality was Franklin Roosevelt, who actually had the Congress and Senate formally declare war on Japan and Germany. All subsequent acts of war are technically illegal and crimes even in the US, never mind the rest of the world.
A few of the acts of war the US engages in worldwide, aside from the obvious and never-ending bombing of various countries and frequent invasions, are assassinations, drone and traditional, “destabilization” using various economic and military means, kidnapping, imprisoning, and torturing citizens of other countries from their own or third countries, interfering in elections, bribing government and military officials in other countries, spying, economic and/or military sabotage, creating, arming, funding, and providing political cover to various armed terrorist groups attacking their local or other governments, and more recently, computer spying and sabotage and drone attacks, to name a few. The list goes on and on . . .
No other country including Great Britain and Nazi Germany, the second and third place finishers, comes remotely close to having attacked and committed war crimes against so many other peoples and states.
It is ironic that the world’s No. 1 Terrorist state and state sponsor of Terrorism claims that most of the war crimes it has committed in the past quarter century are in the name of “fighting terrorism”. It doesn’t get more brazen that that.
The west wants war, and thats what they from their people against, and I can read it every day.
In Norway they openly debate where people like me should be incarserated or simply putt away, in comentary feilds, along with of course Muslims.
All in the open ranges, and I cant defend nor write anything to counter their sickening perseptions, since people like me is censured away.
And whats left is pure hatepropaganda against Russia and its people that is per def. subhumans.
You can write anything you want as long its about killing Russians and Muslims.
And the Finns, whom have billions in hedgings on the greek economy, is of course its not That intressted to help the Greeks.
The Khazarian finnish banks would loose money.
huh
Pekka is becomed a nation of despecable low lifed scums.
Pekka is a creep, my own people is a shame.
Pathetic creatures with no spine left what so ever.
The Sweds is beyound f…. and is sliding into their own mudd, where raping of a white girl (13 years od) was legalise since the person whom did this belive the girl was older, and presto, the man walked free, but the girl, whom is white they dint give a f…. about, in the PC sweden the blame is on the Girl.
I have no idea of where Sweden is heading, but the present ZioNazis controll of thei land is obvious.
The war will come, no matter how logical and sane Putin behaves, it dont matter.
In Norway, the sheeps are groomed to be cannon fodder.
Dutch Professor: “The United States are addicted to enemies”
Monday 9 March, the Dutch emiritus Professor Karel van Wolferen held an open lecture at the occupied University of Amsterdam. He addressed the subjects of the crisis in Ukraine, the financial crisis in Greece, the inertion of Europe and the destructive power of NATO. “Get rid of NATO!”. And of course the US: “The United States are addicted to enemies.”
Some of the highlights of his presentation are following: * The current Ukraine movement has nothing to do with the original Democracy movement.
* The movement was partly hijacked by Nazi’s.
* “Very consistent effort by a number of groups in the US to destabilise parts of the former USSR.
* These NGO’s and Thinktanks @work in Eastern Europe and Russiaaimed to undermine and break-up the good (trade-)relations between Europe (Germany) and Russia.
On the terrible state journalism finds itself in: * Dutch newspaper NRC-Handelsblad isn’t even a shadow of its former self. It is terrible what has happened to NRC Handelsblad and alike media like magazines, newspapers and tv-programmes that used to have some integrity: It is gone! There is no journalistic integrity. This is pretty awfull.
* For journalists it is essential to be curious and find out the answers to questions not yet answered.
About what a concerned citizen can do: * Write letters to editors and ask them to stop this avelanche of propaganda
* The United States are addicted to enemies
* NATO is an extension of the American military industrial complex.
* In order to diffuse conspiracy theories, she (Sheila Kamerman, employee of NRC Handelsblad) is making them more ridiculous, like with extra-terrestial reptiles. She is mocking you as a journalist, making you feel guilty for being curious. And it helps! In the US it is totally effective. You cannot ask questions.
* I ask questions. Why the police inspector who was in charge of the 2 guys shot dead in the Charly Hebdo case, writing his report, shoots himself in the back of his head? With his wrong hand?
On NATO… * Without NATO there would not be a Ukraine crisis.
* NATO prevents Europe from having a foreign policy
* If we will have Hillary as the next President we will have war with Iran. With the republican candidates it is awfull too.
Just click the second link – forget copy and pasting.
Sorry, I checked the first link while I was composing the message, and in that format the link did not work.
So I thought a clean link-address will do, but that became a real link in the final format and the “copy and past” became redundant out of my editing reach.
Both the geopolitical “war fever” and the “race war fever” have the same paternity, the Liberal ideologues.
The Liberals spread chaos, lawlessness, and churn insecurity within failed cultures.
They fear certain resistance from any nation standing on principle and sovereignty.
They fear the majority of citizens who demand rule of law, the Constitution and oaths of allegiance to the Constitution as the tradition that must be enforced.
And just as Russia and China will never back down or succumb to their war mongering, the majority in America will never allow this chaos to overwhelm society.
Eric Holder is an arsonist in the legal realm.
Obama is the most lawless, amoral leader in centuries.
One is macro, the other is micro.
But they flow from the same deviant ideology, and intend the same result—complete hegemony over every nation of the globe and every citizen of the nation.
There is a great article posted on the Saker in Oceania “TARIQ ALI: THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR A PALACE REVOLUTION, BY CHRIS HEDGES”.I wanted to share the comment I posted to it.
“A very good, truthful ,analysis of the horror that has befallen the World in this last quarter of a century.I remember at the end of the Cold War thinking, and saying, that we (the people) would suffer from the Soviet collapse. The leaders in the West lived in fear that their own people would turn on them and embrace Socialism.
Which is why the few benefits available to the lower and lower middle classes were allowed.Once there was no “other” system to change to.The leaders were totally free of that fear.There was no reason,except morality, (so for them,no reason) to throw any bones to the people in our countries.
They were free to intimidate,bribe,and subvert our societies with propaganda.And if you objected,too bad,so what.What were you going to do about it.There was no other model in power to side with.And they knew (know) they could get away with whatever they wanted,and have done so.If you believe in mankind’s ultimate goodness,then my words are meaningless to you.But if you believe,that we need “checks and balances” in society,because history shows us we need them.Then you can see how much the Soviet collapse harmed the “people” of the World.I’m glad to see that Ali seems to agree too.
Today,our leaders are moving ahead even further.They have debased and looted pretty much all they can from our own peoples.And so have moved into attacking Russia,with the ultimate goal of subjecting China ,if they can bring down Russia first.The resources of Russia and the industrial might of China would allow our leaders to dominate the entire Globe for at least another century.
The only problem for them is that those countries have the effrontery to object to being enslaved.And in Russia’s case (though the writing is on the wall for China to see) dismembered as well.The building up of a fake ultra-nationalism in Ukraine ,since the Soviet collapse.And those forces teaming up with neo-nazis, struck a nerve among Eastern Ukrainians (and most Russians).Who suffered the worse genocide of their peoples in history from that bunch.
So the new “Spanish Civil War” of our times, is a “Ukrainian Civil War”.And just as in the Spanish one, we see most of the West siding with the fascist side.And the Russians playing the role of the old USSR.The only difference is,this one is on Russia’s borders.And is an existential threat to Russia.The same Russia that is one of the two largest nuclear armed powers in the World.
What on earth are our “leaders” thinking.Did they actually think that the country that defeated Napoleon and withstood and triumphed over the most bestial force in hundreds of years under Hitler.Was going to stand by,while Hitler’s ideological heirs set up shop in Ukraine,the heartland of Russia’s history.And then started a genocidal Russian-killing in the East of the country. If so,they know nothing of Russians and Russia.
There is a popular way of writing articles in Russia.That I will use here,”What is to be done”.Well,this article holds part of the answer.The article says the population in the US (read West) must oppose this suicidal path.That’s not easy certainly.Our “leaders” have had everything going their way for years,most would say for centuries.But at no time have “all” of us faced such a threat to our very existence as we do today.
There is talk that some of our leaders (the 1%) are quietly building safe areas (safe,they hope) in places like New Zealand,and Argentina.Figuring like I do as well,that if anywhere on earth would be safer it is those regions.I can’t say if the reports are totally accurate or not.But since I also considered those regions.I have to believe big money people have as well.But what about the hundreds of millions, at the very least, of the rest of us.Where is our safe area,there isn’t one for the sheeple.
If our leaders push us to war,at the very least Europe,North America,and Russia are gone.Eighty percent of the populations lost is a good estimate at best.Though if the war ignites the Nuclear Winter scientists talk about,eighty percent might become closer to 100%. From an ex-Russian military officer I know.The Russian nuclear command has a list of 338 targets in the US alone (maybe more by today). All neatly marked with satellite coordinates.And since Russia has over 4,000 nuclear weapons many able to split into others for a grand total of around 14,000.Then with the 338 for the US,that still leaves plenty for Europe,Canada,etc.
Certainly,the US has an equal number,marked for Russia.Hence,my reference above to the “suicidal” course we are following.And of course that leaves China unaccounted for.China knows that the fall of Russia leaves them alone to face the West.So like any human being facing a bully at school wanting your lunch money.You look to the other tough kid for aid.That is the main basis for the “Russian/Chinese Strategic Partnership” you hear so much about.All the talk from our “leaders” about any splits between Russia and China, run up against that one fact.As long as China has fear of the Western designs on her.They and Russia will be friends.Its a matter of self survival for both parties.”
The strategic partnership of China and Russia is unique. The Chinese definition of it is unique. “Comprehensive strategic collaborative partnership.” The actions of the two leaders of the nations has created a strategy that will unfold and deepen over time. The bonding of the two nations in this partnership is barely eight months old. Given a year or two more and we will perceive the impact much more clearly.
This year, the continued hegemonic actions such as pressuring Vietnam to ban Russia refueler planes from Cam Ran air base and ships from the naval facility, financing the agitation in Hong Kong, stimulating cross-straits enmity again in Taiwan, promoting Japanese imperialism and unleashing its military from simple national defense constrictions so it can challenge China in the East China Sea, and mauling Malaysia and Indonesia and Thailand’s governments to force them into line on TPP (the hegemon’s trade straightjacket)—all these frighten Beijing and infuse the strategic partnership with immediate and long term necessity.
The relationship is clearly existential, not merely economic based on energy needs and energy supplies. China is replacing EU for investment and trade in Russia’s economy. China relieves Russia of its dependency on the West. This is a relief from the impact of sanctions.
Russia’s vigor in military defense and weapon technologies are necessities for China. Using SCO the two partners will be fast and flexible in battling terrorism as a tool of the hegemon.
These are a few highlights of the strategic partnership. Regardless of any competitive aspirations, each needs the other now and for a long time to come.
What makes it a very unique partnership is, unlike the West’s model of relationship, this is not an alliance. Each nation maintains very separate strategies because of history, geolocations, experiences as global players (China has not been a world power for hundreds of years) and because of the differing challenges at its borders and near environments.
The fusion of the two is a rational and natural development in the face of the Hegemon’s projects to destroy both, Russia first, China next.
“If you believe in mankind’s ultimate goodness,then my words are meaningless to you.But if you believe,that we need “checks and balances” in society,because history shows us we need them”
Check and balance who?
Most people are ‘good’ to a fair extent if given a chance, but are also ignorant, not to bright, and perverted by the system and their upbringing and the emotinal, intellectual, and spiritual abuse they have suffered. Yet they are not inherently psychopaths or sociopaths, and many do recover from the all the ‘bricks in the wall’ they have been hit with.
But There is always a portion of the population with are naturally sociopathic, or more, psychopathic, and have also been damaged by their upbringing, especially among the ‘elite’ (see http://psychohistory.com/ for some related material), and have been roundly perverted. Unfortunately, most people do not recognize the nature of these people — partly because of their inherent ‘goodness’ and reluctance to ascribe such evil to other people, at least in their own tribes — but that ‘evil’ is attributed to others — the ‘enemy’ — with pressure to do so through the propaganda and cultural assumptions set up by the ‘elite’.
It is the inherent goodness of so many people that offers some hope, if they could only be awakened and educated with the truth, if they could recover from the abuse they have suffered. This is the real function of the organizations such as unions, socialists, communists, humanists, and religions, ‘prophets’, ‘intellectuals’, etc., when they themselves have not been perverted or taken over by, or destroyed by, the ‘evil ones’. Then the people can institute ‘checks and balances’ — a counter-force to recognize and control the sociopaths.
blue, I agree with your first paragraph…Steiner said we as a species should be heading towards less police… not more.
but whereas modern histiographers, such as yourself, call evil ‘psychopathic, sociopathic etc…I think its useful for even atheists to regard evil as a phenomena.
I read a very glum but very well written article by Fred Reed that covers your last paragraph…he says its hopeless. Pretty soon the Internet will be policed and then we will be helpless to ‘unionize’ ourselves and the evil ‘axis’ will have us in its net. Very glum.
But I also believe that people are born that lead others. Putin, IMHO is one. And there will always be others too.
But the dumming down of humanity by government (evil) run education is even making the incarnation of a born leader somewhat more difficult, not maybe because of he/she/ themselves, but of the general population…being zombified.
The so-called “Program for Public Consultation at the University of Maryland, with the Kiev International Institute of Sociology” did a “poll” in Ukraine last month “showing” that 85% of Ukrainians including the Novorossian areas support the united Ukraine ideas of the junta.Besides the fact that it was probably “massaged” to get the answers they wanted.They also used a trick they’ve used in some of their other polls I found suspicious.Until I realized what the Western pollsters were up to.We all know the real boundaries of the Southeast.But in the polls they include Ukrainian speaking Oblasts as part of the Southeast.That makes the totals off track by region.Its an American style trick used in Gerrymandering voting areas in the US.Some of the Empire’s consultants must be showing their stooges the master tricks of the trade.
Thanks for highlighting this Crosstalk, Saker. Tears were in my eyes during the first half, as it sounded as if there was agreement that light was visible at the end of our long, dark tunnel. I was a bit disappointed in the second half as the other participants didn’t pick up on Charles’ point that behind the extreme view of Russia isn’t so much ratings and ‘what sells’ but rather those who own the broadcasting media are dictating the terms in which reporters must function in order to keep their jobs. And tv productions also. For both areas, the lure or incentive does involve the wealth factor, but audience appreciation doesn’t play a part because the audience is going elsewhere.
And on that last point, if that wealth factor indeed greases the wheels, those may not be coming off yet but they are certainly beginning to stiffen up. I don’t believe stuff about Russia sells papers or makes tv shows popular any longer except as make believe for walter mitty types, because the stuff is all now complete hokum. (Venezuela is a security threat? Come on!) And people are turning off, and going increasingly to sites like this one and like Russian Insider, because we don’t just want to hear about Russia – we want the TRUTH about Russia!
Dutch Professor: “The United States are addicted to enemies”
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The comments quoted above should demonstrate to those here who continue to insist that the USA is inheritor of WWII Germany that nothing could be further from the truth. The USA is doing the same things it did in the 1930s-1940s, only this time without an ally in Russia. This time it is Europe that is the ally, although a very reluctant one that would like to break that bondage.
The USA has been this way at least since its consolidation of power in the 1860s. Don’t just ask the Germans. Ask the Confederates. Ask the Spanish. Ask any of the peoples who have suffered conquest by the USA, a list too long to print!
Never forget, war is never about humanitarian concerns. It is always about power and pillage. Humanitarian claims are always window dressing for greed.
Although this wasn’t really “Cross Talk” per se, it’s kind of pleasant to listen to an intelligent and rational discussion without the shrill of an Israeli shill
But, but, but… Nato muscle-flexing sends Putin firm message…
Oohhhhhhh, Mr Putin better keep an eye on it then…
Why? This was the message to Mr. Putin,
here perfectly explained by Mr. Piakin:
(needs translation into English from Russian)
http://czechfreepress.cz/uvadime-videa/otazka-odpoved-v-v-pjakina-ze-dne-02-03-2015-titulky-cz.html
A thorough analysis worth of consideration and follow up.
OT — breaking news
http://rt.com/usa/239945-policemen-shot-ferguson-protests/
At least two police officers have been shot during a protest outside Ferguson Police Station, according to reports by local media.
also at
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150312/1019380275.html
Sounds like a US “Black Maidan” emerging — or do we refer to it as a “Revolution of Color”?
So did Putin ‘do it’ as well with some hidden ‘Soviet’ snipers? (After all he only had to copy the strategy set by certain actors in Kiev 2014!) — can we expect more US sanctions on Russia?
A Black Maidan, or another false flag? Could it be another match to ignite that long sought race war that will finally break open explosive cultural tensions, crack down on all dissent, and get those FEMA camps running as Murka decides to pursue the Samson options ’cause it’s plans are failing everywhere?
Or maybe it’s just payback from someone a bit too pissed off? Profiling police in uniform is easy.
Hard to say at this point. Events like this, though, almost seem overdetermined as the social cracks deepen, branch, and start to break.
Anything is possible — e.g., see Charles Manson’s Helter Skelter scenario as an apocalyptic war arising from racial tensions between blacks and whites. The Tate/LaBianca murders were meant to help kickstart it.
However, I suspect they’ll ‘legalise’ weed fast enough to dope down the potential threat from the down-trodden outrage.
now Russia should insist on fair investigation and preservation of human rights of peacful protesters and in any case should send some cookies.
“Cookies” — yes, yes, yes!!! … can’t wait to see Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov handing out cookies (or is it brownies?) in Ferguson! Can we help crowd fund it?
Undoubtedly Russia is again the target of a “Crusade” by the West. It is the last in a long series of religiously or ideologically motivated assaults. The memes Light vs Darkness, Order vs Chaos, Rule of Law vs Arbitrary, Good Empire vs. Evil Empire is deeply entrenched in Western psyche. Russia is the Evil Empire and fighting against it is a moral imperative. The Western identity is constructed around the fight against the Darkness of the East (as if the Sun rises from the west!). They would try again and again no matter past failures. This is proof of insanity (Einstein definition: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results). They delude themselves that they are in control.
Or, as Dmitri Orlov put it: In situations that involve politics or military matters, applying the same control measure twice is about as effective as telling the same joke twice to the same audience: you become the joke.
The powers that be have had to come up with new marketing slogans to sell their wars.
Saving World Heritage – the West’s New R2P Pretext
By Finian Cunningham
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article411200.htm
Alexander Mercouris came up with this gem;
“It’s always 1938 when Mr. Putin is concerned…”
Sums up the west’s position in one, straightforward sentence.
Well done, Mr Mercouris.
The last US Administration to pay lip service to legality was Franklin Roosevelt, who actually had the Congress and Senate formally declare war on Japan and Germany. All subsequent acts of war are technically illegal and crimes even in the US, never mind the rest of the world.
A few of the acts of war the US engages in worldwide, aside from the obvious and never-ending bombing of various countries and frequent invasions, are assassinations, drone and traditional, “destabilization” using various economic and military means, kidnapping, imprisoning, and torturing citizens of other countries from their own or third countries, interfering in elections, bribing government and military officials in other countries, spying, economic and/or military sabotage, creating, arming, funding, and providing political cover to various armed terrorist groups attacking their local or other governments, and more recently, computer spying and sabotage and drone attacks, to name a few. The list goes on and on . . .
No other country including Great Britain and Nazi Germany, the second and third place finishers, comes remotely close to having attacked and committed war crimes against so many other peoples and states.
It is ironic that the world’s No. 1 Terrorist state and state sponsor of Terrorism claims that most of the war crimes it has committed in the past quarter century are in the name of “fighting terrorism”. It doesn’t get more brazen that that.
+10!
The west wants war, and thats what they from their people against, and I can read it every day.
In Norway they openly debate where people like me should be incarserated or simply putt away, in comentary feilds, along with of course Muslims.
All in the open ranges, and I cant defend nor write anything to counter their sickening perseptions, since people like me is censured away.
And whats left is pure hatepropaganda against Russia and its people that is per def. subhumans.
You can write anything you want as long its about killing Russians and Muslims.
And the Finns, whom have billions in hedgings on the greek economy, is of course its not That intressted to help the Greeks.
The Khazarian finnish banks would loose money.
huh
Pekka is becomed a nation of despecable low lifed scums.
Pekka is a creep, my own people is a shame.
Pathetic creatures with no spine left what so ever.
The Sweds is beyound f…. and is sliding into their own mudd, where raping of a white girl (13 years od) was legalise since the person whom did this belive the girl was older, and presto, the man walked free, but the girl, whom is white they dint give a f…. about, in the PC sweden the blame is on the Girl.
I have no idea of where Sweden is heading, but the present ZioNazis controll of thei land is obvious.
The war will come, no matter how logical and sane Putin behaves, it dont matter.
In Norway, the sheeps are groomed to be cannon fodder.
peace
Dutch Professor: “The United States are addicted to enemies”
Monday 9 March, the Dutch emiritus Professor Karel van Wolferen held an open lecture at the occupied University of Amsterdam. He addressed the subjects of the crisis in Ukraine, the financial crisis in Greece, the inertion of Europe and the destructive power of NATO. “Get rid of NATO!”. And of course the US: “The United States are addicted to enemies.”
Watch the lecture, here (exclusive footage of Blik op NOSjournaal)
(When the link above isn’t working, copy and past this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5zFz6rS3lw )
Some of the highlights of his presentation are following:
* The current Ukraine movement has nothing to do with the original Democracy movement.
* The movement was partly hijacked by Nazi’s.
* “Very consistent effort by a number of groups in the US to destabilise parts of the former USSR.
* These NGO’s and Thinktanks @work in Eastern Europe and Russiaaimed to undermine and break-up the good (trade-)relations between Europe (Germany) and Russia.
On the terrible state journalism finds itself in:
* Dutch newspaper NRC-Handelsblad isn’t even a shadow of its former self. It is terrible what has happened to NRC Handelsblad and alike media like magazines, newspapers and tv-programmes that used to have some integrity: It is gone! There is no journalistic integrity. This is pretty awfull.
* For journalists it is essential to be curious and find out the answers to questions not yet answered.
About what a concerned citizen can do:
* Write letters to editors and ask them to stop this avelanche of propaganda
* The United States are addicted to enemies
* NATO is an extension of the American military industrial complex.
* In order to diffuse conspiracy theories, she (Sheila Kamerman, employee of NRC Handelsblad) is making them more ridiculous, like with extra-terrestial reptiles. She is mocking you as a journalist, making you feel guilty for being curious. And it helps! In the US it is totally effective. You cannot ask questions.
* I ask questions. Why the police inspector who was in charge of the 2 guys shot dead in the Charly Hebdo case, writing his report, shoots himself in the back of his head? With his wrong hand?
On NATO…
* Without NATO there would not be a Ukraine crisis.
* NATO prevents Europe from having a foreign policy
* If we will have Hillary as the next President we will have war with Iran. With the republican candidates it is awfull too.
It would be better to write letters to MPs, Senators, politicians, to make clear the desire for peace.
pssst buddy… How do you watch the video?
Just click the second link – forget copy and pasting.
Sorry, I checked the first link while I was composing the message, and in that format the link did not work.
So I thought a clean link-address will do, but that became a real link in the final format and the “copy and past” became redundant out of my editing reach.
Both the geopolitical “war fever” and the “race war fever” have the same paternity, the Liberal ideologues.
The Liberals spread chaos, lawlessness, and churn insecurity within failed cultures.
They fear certain resistance from any nation standing on principle and sovereignty.
They fear the majority of citizens who demand rule of law, the Constitution and oaths of allegiance to the Constitution as the tradition that must be enforced.
And just as Russia and China will never back down or succumb to their war mongering, the majority in America will never allow this chaos to overwhelm society.
Eric Holder is an arsonist in the legal realm.
Obama is the most lawless, amoral leader in centuries.
One is macro, the other is micro.
But they flow from the same deviant ideology, and intend the same result—complete hegemony over every nation of the globe and every citizen of the nation.
There is a great article posted on the Saker in Oceania “TARIQ ALI: THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR A PALACE REVOLUTION, BY CHRIS HEDGES”.I wanted to share the comment I posted to it.
“A very good, truthful ,analysis of the horror that has befallen the World in this last quarter of a century.I remember at the end of the Cold War thinking, and saying, that we (the people) would suffer from the Soviet collapse. The leaders in the West lived in fear that their own people would turn on them and embrace Socialism.
Which is why the few benefits available to the lower and lower middle classes were allowed.Once there was no “other” system to change to.The leaders were totally free of that fear.There was no reason,except morality, (so for them,no reason) to throw any bones to the people in our countries.
They were free to intimidate,bribe,and subvert our societies with propaganda.And if you objected,too bad,so what.What were you going to do about it.There was no other model in power to side with.And they knew (know) they could get away with whatever they wanted,and have done so.If you believe in mankind’s ultimate goodness,then my words are meaningless to you.But if you believe,that we need “checks and balances” in society,because history shows us we need them.Then you can see how much the Soviet collapse harmed the “people” of the World.I’m glad to see that Ali seems to agree too.
Today,our leaders are moving ahead even further.They have debased and looted pretty much all they can from our own peoples.And so have moved into attacking Russia,with the ultimate goal of subjecting China ,if they can bring down Russia first.The resources of Russia and the industrial might of China would allow our leaders to dominate the entire Globe for at least another century.
The only problem for them is that those countries have the effrontery to object to being enslaved.And in Russia’s case (though the writing is on the wall for China to see) dismembered as well.The building up of a fake ultra-nationalism in Ukraine ,since the Soviet collapse.And those forces teaming up with neo-nazis, struck a nerve among Eastern Ukrainians (and most Russians).Who suffered the worse genocide of their peoples in history from that bunch.
So the new “Spanish Civil War” of our times, is a “Ukrainian Civil War”.And just as in the Spanish one, we see most of the West siding with the fascist side.And the Russians playing the role of the old USSR.The only difference is,this one is on Russia’s borders.And is an existential threat to Russia.The same Russia that is one of the two largest nuclear armed powers in the World.
What on earth are our “leaders” thinking.Did they actually think that the country that defeated Napoleon and withstood and triumphed over the most bestial force in hundreds of years under Hitler.Was going to stand by,while Hitler’s ideological heirs set up shop in Ukraine,the heartland of Russia’s history.And then started a genocidal Russian-killing in the East of the country. If so,they know nothing of Russians and Russia.
There is a popular way of writing articles in Russia.That I will use here,”What is to be done”.Well,this article holds part of the answer.The article says the population in the US (read West) must oppose this suicidal path.That’s not easy certainly.Our “leaders” have had everything going their way for years,most would say for centuries.But at no time have “all” of us faced such a threat to our very existence as we do today.
There is talk that some of our leaders (the 1%) are quietly building safe areas (safe,they hope) in places like New Zealand,and Argentina.Figuring like I do as well,that if anywhere on earth would be safer it is those regions.I can’t say if the reports are totally accurate or not.But since I also considered those regions.I have to believe big money people have as well.But what about the hundreds of millions, at the very least, of the rest of us.Where is our safe area,there isn’t one for the sheeple.
If our leaders push us to war,at the very least Europe,North America,and Russia are gone.Eighty percent of the populations lost is a good estimate at best.Though if the war ignites the Nuclear Winter scientists talk about,eighty percent might become closer to 100%. From an ex-Russian military officer I know.The Russian nuclear command has a list of 338 targets in the US alone (maybe more by today). All neatly marked with satellite coordinates.And since Russia has over 4,000 nuclear weapons many able to split into others for a grand total of around 14,000.Then with the 338 for the US,that still leaves plenty for Europe,Canada,etc.
Certainly,the US has an equal number,marked for Russia.Hence,my reference above to the “suicidal” course we are following.And of course that leaves China unaccounted for.China knows that the fall of Russia leaves them alone to face the West.So like any human being facing a bully at school wanting your lunch money.You look to the other tough kid for aid.That is the main basis for the “Russian/Chinese Strategic Partnership” you hear so much about.All the talk from our “leaders” about any splits between Russia and China, run up against that one fact.As long as China has fear of the Western designs on her.They and Russia will be friends.Its a matter of self survival for both parties.”
The strategic partnership of China and Russia is unique. The Chinese definition of it is unique. “Comprehensive strategic collaborative partnership.” The actions of the two leaders of the nations has created a strategy that will unfold and deepen over time. The bonding of the two nations in this partnership is barely eight months old. Given a year or two more and we will perceive the impact much more clearly.
This year, the continued hegemonic actions such as pressuring Vietnam to ban Russia refueler planes from Cam Ran air base and ships from the naval facility, financing the agitation in Hong Kong, stimulating cross-straits enmity again in Taiwan, promoting Japanese imperialism and unleashing its military from simple national defense constrictions so it can challenge China in the East China Sea, and mauling Malaysia and Indonesia and Thailand’s governments to force them into line on TPP (the hegemon’s trade straightjacket)—all these frighten Beijing and infuse the strategic partnership with immediate and long term necessity.
The relationship is clearly existential, not merely economic based on energy needs and energy supplies. China is replacing EU for investment and trade in Russia’s economy. China relieves Russia of its dependency on the West. This is a relief from the impact of sanctions.
Russia’s vigor in military defense and weapon technologies are necessities for China. Using SCO the two partners will be fast and flexible in battling terrorism as a tool of the hegemon.
These are a few highlights of the strategic partnership. Regardless of any competitive aspirations, each needs the other now and for a long time to come.
What makes it a very unique partnership is, unlike the West’s model of relationship, this is not an alliance. Each nation maintains very separate strategies because of history, geolocations, experiences as global players (China has not been a world power for hundreds of years) and because of the differing challenges at its borders and near environments.
The fusion of the two is a rational and natural development in the face of the Hegemon’s projects to destroy both, Russia first, China next.
“If you believe in mankind’s ultimate goodness,then my words are meaningless to you.But if you believe,that we need “checks and balances” in society,because history shows us we need them”
Check and balance who?
Most people are ‘good’ to a fair extent if given a chance, but are also ignorant, not to bright, and perverted by the system and their upbringing and the emotinal, intellectual, and spiritual abuse they have suffered. Yet they are not inherently psychopaths or sociopaths, and many do recover from the all the ‘bricks in the wall’ they have been hit with.
But There is always a portion of the population with are naturally sociopathic, or more, psychopathic, and have also been damaged by their upbringing, especially among the ‘elite’ (see http://psychohistory.com/ for some related material), and have been roundly perverted. Unfortunately, most people do not recognize the nature of these people — partly because of their inherent ‘goodness’ and reluctance to ascribe such evil to other people, at least in their own tribes — but that ‘evil’ is attributed to others — the ‘enemy’ — with pressure to do so through the propaganda and cultural assumptions set up by the ‘elite’.
It is the inherent goodness of so many people that offers some hope, if they could only be awakened and educated with the truth, if they could recover from the abuse they have suffered. This is the real function of the organizations such as unions, socialists, communists, humanists, and religions, ‘prophets’, ‘intellectuals’, etc., when they themselves have not been perverted or taken over by, or destroyed by, the ‘evil ones’. Then the people can institute ‘checks and balances’ — a counter-force to recognize and control the sociopaths.
blue, I agree with your first paragraph…Steiner said we as a species should be heading towards less police… not more.
but whereas modern histiographers, such as yourself, call evil ‘psychopathic, sociopathic etc…I think its useful for even atheists to regard evil as a phenomena.
I read a very glum but very well written article by Fred Reed that covers your last paragraph…he says its hopeless. Pretty soon the Internet will be policed and then we will be helpless to ‘unionize’ ourselves and the evil ‘axis’ will have us in its net. Very glum.
But I also believe that people are born that lead others. Putin, IMHO is one. And there will always be others too.
But the dumming down of humanity by government (evil) run education is even making the incarnation of a born leader somewhat more difficult, not maybe because of he/she/ themselves, but of the general population…being zombified.
Dear The Saker,
The EU – the gift that just keeps on giving:
http://tass.ru/en/russia/782323
Since when can other countries invetigate deaths of citizens in their own countries? This shrill disgusting Russophobia is getting out of control……
They are doing he’s ill rubbish again. When all else fails – he’s sick:
http://rt.com/politics/240025-russia-peskov-putin-health/
Love Peskov’s “he can break hands” :).
And the childish reaction to the Victory day celebrations – just insult your own people who died and the few that are alive:
http://tass.ru/en/russia/782333
I personally wouldn’t want them there – clebrate with those who actually have manners, decency and care about peace.
I so respect Russia’s patience when you look at the idiots in the EU. They are embarrasing.
Rgds,
Veritas
Great program on RT.Its such a shame that most of the people in the West don’t see it.It might make many more begin to think for once.
The so-called “Program for Public Consultation at the University of Maryland, with the Kiev International Institute of Sociology” did a “poll” in Ukraine last month “showing” that 85% of Ukrainians including the Novorossian areas support the united Ukraine ideas of the junta.Besides the fact that it was probably “massaged” to get the answers they wanted.They also used a trick they’ve used in some of their other polls I found suspicious.Until I realized what the Western pollsters were up to.We all know the real boundaries of the Southeast.But in the polls they include Ukrainian speaking Oblasts as part of the Southeast.That makes the totals off track by region.Its an American style trick used in Gerrymandering voting areas in the US.Some of the Empire’s consultants must be showing their stooges the master tricks of the trade.
Funded by Soros and NED.
Thanks for highlighting this Crosstalk, Saker. Tears were in my eyes during the first half, as it sounded as if there was agreement that light was visible at the end of our long, dark tunnel. I was a bit disappointed in the second half as the other participants didn’t pick up on Charles’ point that behind the extreme view of Russia isn’t so much ratings and ‘what sells’ but rather those who own the broadcasting media are dictating the terms in which reporters must function in order to keep their jobs. And tv productions also. For both areas, the lure or incentive does involve the wealth factor, but audience appreciation doesn’t play a part because the audience is going elsewhere.
And on that last point, if that wealth factor indeed greases the wheels, those may not be coming off yet but they are certainly beginning to stiffen up. I don’t believe stuff about Russia sells papers or makes tv shows popular any longer except as make believe for walter mitty types, because the stuff is all now complete hokum. (Venezuela is a security threat? Come on!) And people are turning off, and going increasingly to sites like this one and like Russian Insider, because we don’t just want to hear about Russia – we want the TRUTH about Russia!
Daniel Rich on March 12, 2015 · at 7:14 am UTC
Alexander Mercouris came up with this gem;
“It’s always 1938 when Mr. Putin is concerned…”
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Feng on March 12, 2015 · at 11:36 am UTC
Dutch Professor: “The United States are addicted to enemies”
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The comments quoted above should demonstrate to those here who continue to insist that the USA is inheritor of WWII Germany that nothing could be further from the truth. The USA is doing the same things it did in the 1930s-1940s, only this time without an ally in Russia. This time it is Europe that is the ally, although a very reluctant one that would like to break that bondage.
The USA has been this way at least since its consolidation of power in the 1860s. Don’t just ask the Germans. Ask the Confederates. Ask the Spanish. Ask any of the peoples who have suffered conquest by the USA, a list too long to print!
Never forget, war is never about humanitarian concerns. It is always about power and pillage. Humanitarian claims are always window dressing for greed.
Although this wasn’t really “Cross Talk” per se, it’s kind of pleasant to listen to an intelligent and rational discussion without the shrill of an Israeli shill
yes, a very mellow and brotherly crosstalk….I love all those guys.