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CrossTalk: US vs Russia

6307 Views December 15, 2014 Blog, Watch List The Saker

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  1. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 3:43 pm EST/EDT

    The US risks losing influence at the International Monetary Fund after long-delayed reforms were left out of a 2015 budget deal in Congress.

    Christine Lagarde, the fund’s managing director, said she had “expressed her disappointment” to the US. The IMF will now explore “alternative options” after Congress ignored a package of governance changes first agreed in 2010
    MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF ALL

  2. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 5:28 pm EST/EDT

    Ruble is down 9 pct today,saboteurs still in charge.

    It is more than time to clean the house.

    Did you notice that we got suddenly 4 interviews in the R MSM of Medvedev?
    As till recently he was very silent.
    What does this mean?

  3. Joat on December 15, 2014  ·  at 5:50 pm EST/EDT

    Responding to the first comment on this thread @ 15.43.

    The BRICS ‘partners’ have already established an alternative to the IMF likewise the World Bank.

    They fully understand that the US will never allow equal quotas and these post WW2 agencies are only for the ‘winners’.

    The BRICS and whoever join the SCO etc have left..they will probably abandon the UN as a serious problem solving mechanism,setting up their own forum.

    The US quotas in 1945 were greater than the shares of Britain,the Soviet Union and France combined.

    Christine Lagarde is merely a mouthpiece for Washington’s monetary & foreign policies.

    cheers.

  4. Bosnian Croat on December 15, 2014  ·  at 6:14 pm EST/EDT

    What to f..k is going on with Russian economy and Russian Ruble?

    Is this collapse and disaster?

    Ruble is sinking like piece of iron in water again.

    Is there anyone in Russia to do something?

    I cannot believe that they cannot stabilise Ruble.

    Saker … do you know anything?

    My God!

  5. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 7:00 pm EST/EDT

    The bigger question: is China now stabbing Russia in the back?

  6. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 7:27 pm EST/EDT

    Of topic, but also very important.
    Is someone here on this network can translate these very important links?
    Thank you with advance
    http://www.nwoo.org/2014/12/07/jak-zahynul-boeing-mh17-cast-1/
    http://www.nwoo.org/2014/12/12/jak-zahynul-boeing-mh17-cast-2/

  7. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 7:28 pm EST/EDT

    Game over for Putin

    Russian currency has lost about 84% since the start of the year.

    Russian equities in worst slide in 5 years.

    http://rt.com/business/214575-russia-equities-ruble-low/

    And even worse,Lavrov surrenders the Donbass to the Ukraine:

    La Russie se prononce pour le maintien du Donbass dans l’Ukraine
    Lire la suite: http://french.ruvr.ru/news/2014_12_15/La-Russie-se-prononce-pour-le-maintien-du-Donbass-dans-lUkraine-6274/

    And now they are even going to give more money to the Ukies

    Russia Says Could Take Part in Donor Conference on Ukraine

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20141215/1015877695.html

    I’m feeling disgusted and betrayed.
    Putin was just another NWO puppet..that is the only thruth.

  8. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 7:40 pm EST/EDT

    On Dec 14, on the official website of the Pindosi Congress was published the third bill number 2828 “About maintaining freedom in Ukraine”, which has already become one of the most controversial. At the meeting of the presidents of Pindostan and Ukraine Washington gave the word of its intention to provide Kiev with comprehensive support, both financial and military. This was the bill 2828 to maintain the so-called freedom in Ukraine. Repeated meetings of representatives of Ukraine with Pindosi authorities also raised the question of the inclusion of Ukraine into NATO. Prerequisites for this step were spelled out in the bill, where Kiev received the status of “major non-NATO ally”. However, it is likely that Pindostan, in connection with the recent events have changed their mind to give Ukraine hope for a bright future in the third draft law, which is already approved by the Senate, has excluded this item (Major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine) from the document. Pindosi politicians promised to grant Ukraine military assistance in the form of tanks, military armoured vehicles, mortars and the like, unrelated to aircraft armament. Also Pindostan has already sent their experts for training of Ukrainian military special forces, which is confirmed by official statements of Pindosi military. But in the third bill 2828 disappeared paragraph about the provision of Ukraine’s military assistance and it was replaced by a new one, where NATO provides for the granting Ukraine increased assistance to non-military nature (expanded non-military assistance).

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2828/text/174266
    Putin´s Confident: Putin to Nationalize Rothschild´s Central Bank and Purge “Collaborators” with West. “War till One Side Collapses inevitable”

    http://new.euro-med.dk/20141215-putins-confident-putin-to-nationalize-rothschilds-central-bank-and-purge-collaborators-with-west-war-till-one-side-collapses-inevitable.php
    Maybe those who run against ruble are Putin’s guys and the target is false flag for nationalization of central bank?

    This links are not directly connected to current afairs but somehow yes
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/noah-biblical-tale-rewritten-push-agenda/
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/return-oz-creepy-disney-movie-blatantly-mind-control/

  9. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 7:41 pm EST/EDT

    Is there a ‘coup’ in the making?

    Putin New Year Address Location to Remain Secret Until December 31: Kremlin.

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20141215/1015864904.html

    And now Merkel is back with South Stream,she wants to talk about the project..

    Merkel veut discuter de South Stream
    Lire la suite: http://french.ruvr.ru/news/2014_12_15/Merkel-veut-discuter-de-South-Stream-1113/

  10. Anunnaki on December 15, 2014  ·  at 8:07 pm EST/EDT

    IMF pulls the plug

    http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2014/12/us-taxpayers-now-alone-in-financing.html

  11. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 8:24 pm EST/EDT

    The show was taped on Dec 14th. Both the House and Senate have passed the bill against RUSSIA the same night, Dec 12. Obama just need to sign it to be in effect. So far, he didn’t.

    The show gave the impression that only the House passed it.

  12. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 8:29 pm EST/EDT

    United States is Creating Three Military Bases in Ukraine.

    …I have to say the following – we still have time. But if we only focus on pseudo-tactical tasks – fix here, fix there, went to Turkey, looks like got a deal, went to China, didn’t get credits – this is not politics, this is child play. We need a strategic line of a great country, which has to pursue a policy which will put us in the center of world processes, just as it used to be before, when our great weapons were heard around the world and not one cannon in the world could shoot without a permission form our great country.

    Translated by Kristina Rus for FortRuss.blogspot.com

  13. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 8:31 pm EST/EDT

    U.S. Taxpayers Now Alone in Financing Ukraine’s Ethnic Cleansing Campaign. IMF Says Ukraine Fails to Meet Conditions of the April 30th 2014 $17 Billion Loan.

    http://fortruss.blogspot.be/2014/12/us-taxpayers-now-alone-in-financing.html

  14. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 8:39 pm EST/EDT

    5000 deads and 10.000 injured for nothing at all.

    Russia Says It Wants East Ukraine to Stay With Kiev Under Reformed Constitution.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-wants-eastern-ukraine-to-stay-with-kiev-under-reformed-constitution/513339.html

  15. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 8:44 pm EST/EDT

    RT comes in from a lot of aggressive criticism in the western media as a propaganda platform for the Kremlin and Putin personally oversees the programming.

    I doubt that a discussion like this one would ever appear on US or UK television, a serious discussion that touches on really important subjects.

    Even most of the liberal/left press doesn’t have these kinds of debates. For example the UK Guardian which has totally whitewashed events in Ukraine and deliberately ignores atrocities and massacres carried out by facist militias.

    So the entire elite in the west’s media, along with the rest of the establishment, is extraordinarily anti-Russian and hooked on a bizarre ‘crusader’ ideology that wants to spread human rights and democracy around the world), our values, which are really an excuse, a cover, for blatant imperialism) using war as the method! It’s like a strange, crazed, utopian cult has taken over everywhere in the West, the cult of democracy with a sword, democracy is a country we reach on the other side of a river, and we have to wade through the river of blood to get there.

  16. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 9:08 pm EST/EDT

    And more sanctions:

    EU Foreign Policy Chief Expects New Sanctions Against Crimea on Dec.18.

    According to a draft EU document on the expansion of sanctions against Crimea, leaked to the media, the new restrictive measures include the prohibition for EU firms to invest in the region, as well as the ban on trading EU oil and gas exploration technologies.
    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20141215/1015879300.html

  17. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 9:39 pm EST/EDT

    Calm down everybody.

    Israel Shamir explains what is exactly happening. Those so called “self-hating Jews” like him usually see things in a more clear way (remember Bobby Fischer, Stanley Cubrick?) then the rest of us.

    http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2014/12/israel-shamir-what-can-christmas-trees.html

    ” Screams in the Western press and in social networks, the resolution 758, declaring war on Russia – these are the signs of a collapse, but the collapse not of Russia. All empires come to an end, the liberals like to say, and now comes the end of the liberal American Empire. “

    …” The current American offensive resembles the Ardennes in December 1944, exactly 70 years ago, when seemingly defeated Reich struck a powerful blow and overran the Anglo-American troops. But these temporary successes did not change the result. The Reich fell, the American Empire will collapse as well. “

    Cheers,

    The Wend.

  18. Anonymous on December 15, 2014  ·  at 10:05 pm EST/EDT

    Could this become true?

    http://www.debka.com/article/24296/Is-Obama-ready-for-an-about-face-to-recognize-Assad-Will-Syria-provide-the-strike-force-against-ISIS-

  19. Anunnaki on December 15, 2014  ·  at 10:30 pm EST/EDT

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-15/russia-shocks-emergency-rate-hike-boosts-interest-rate-105-17

    If this doesnt stop the bleeding, will it mean Russia has to deplete its reserves?

    Where is the bottom of the ruble collapse?

  20. Anunnaki on December 15, 2014  ·  at 10:55 pm EST/EDT

    http://new.euro-med.dk/20141215-putins-confident-putin-to-nationalize-rothschilds-central-bank-and-purge-collaborators-with-west-war-till-one-side-collapses-inevitable.php

    Do it Vlad! drop the hammer on the parasites

  21. Julian on December 15, 2014  ·  at 11:04 pm EST/EDT

    Good to see the Russian Central Bank trying to destroy the Russian economy.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-15/russia-shocks-emergency-rate-hike-boosts-interest-rate-105-17?page=1#comment-5555624

    Why doesn’t Russia just demand that from January 1, 2015 – all payments for oil & gas from countries that have imposed sanctions must be paid in gold and/ or rubles.

    Any disagreement – cut off the flows.

  22. Anon Mongoose on December 16, 2014  ·  at 1:44 am EST/EDT

    @ Anunnaki and Julian et al

    Please Stop the worrying. Russia is being demonized as a distraction from Western financial slow-mo collapse.
    Every fly that passes through Russia is highlighted by AZ’sas a Rhino. Russia is being singled out but the collapse other countries’ currencies are ignored. Look at Russia. No.

    Take a look at Canada. Oil prices at these levels will put the oil sands development on hold. Canada pressures US to pass Keystone XL as falling oil prices threaten project

    And Recall Some History: did Paul Volcker, at the time Chairman of U.S. Federal Reserve, raise interest rates beyond the levels just announced by Russia. In mid 80s, North American banks were paying depositers 20%. Utility bonds were priced at 19%.

    Russian CB’s action today crushed the speculators against the Ruble.

    Here is the real skinny: ZH: Russia is insulated

    What America Does Not Understand About Russia & Oil

    As hard as it is to believe – given the strength of the “Russia-is-doomed” meme – Crude oil prices for Russia (in Rubles) are unchanged since February… This is important as all costs are Ruble denominated while revenues are USD denominated, leaving Russian oil companies’ margins insulated despite the dollar decline in price. In addition, the Russian government is easing the export taxes which further improve the profitability of Russian oil. So as US Shale Oil sector is destroyed by its USD costs, it appears Putin’s core energy industry is somewhat insulated… and America’s late-80s “defeat The Sovet Union” playbook is failing.

  23. Ann on December 16, 2014  ·  at 3:40 am EST/EDT

    Now I’m worried about Putin. His red line might not be a strong line. Oh Saker, what’s he gonna do ??

  24. Ann on December 16, 2014  ·  at 3:42 am EST/EDT

    Anon…”‘m feeling disgusted and betrayed.
    Putin was just another NWO puppet..that is the only thruth.”

    Well, anon….at leaset we know Putin’s name.

  25. Ann on December 16, 2014  ·  at 3:43 am EST/EDT

    Annanuki this is why I don’t like Zerohedge. The Central bank is an IMF organization. The IMF always does the opposite…like raise interest rates and suffocates the economy. they do it time and again.

  26. Ann on December 16, 2014  ·  at 3:45 am EST/EDT

    I wonder if you are the same anon…

    Russia Says It Wants East Ukraine to Stay With Kiev Under Reformed Constitution.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-wants-eastern-ukraine-to-stay-with-kiev-under-reformed-constitution/513339.html“

    Anon…its a fact that he Moscow times is owned by the west…need I say more ???

  27. Ann on December 16, 2014  ·  at 3:55 am EST/EDT

    I agree with the guy that says that if there was no cold war then Germany and Russia would come more together.

    This also is what Steiner says. He says though that its the english speaking countries…including UK…don’t get fooled by Cameron..he’s a ken-doll (mate of Barbie doll) but behind him is the Queen and her knights….Rothschilds etc…

    And Steiner says that underneath all the other reasoning as far as keeping Germany and Russia apart, is the actual evolution of humanity. There are a very few people at the top…masons and Jesuits ?) but at the very top… who are aware of the real danger…ie the normal evolution of humanity as opposed to a different evolution….and we don’t want to go that way….

    This is a war of divine dimensions..but if we can make it through this bottleneck, which is definitely where we are now, life on Earth will become better for another few thousand years…we are living in interesting times.

    Love Ann

  28. Ann on December 16, 2014  ·  at 4:16 am EST/EDT

    Saker, I have made so many comments. But I think, relating to the end of the Crosstalk, where Peter asks “Where do we go from here”

    I think the most important thing for human beings to get control of is the courts. Because if we just try, like that guy Tony says, “try to get through to the policy makers in Washington” it will never work.

    If humanity could get the court system out of the government and have it in the cultural center…not finance, not government but lawyers … real people…then we could get control of the world again…

    Until this happens it will always be the same…governments bought by big money.

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