Death of Geneva format, new format for resolving the Syrian conflict, more facts in the murder of Russia’s Ambassador.
Russia, Iran, Turkey: countries who are deciding the future of Syria. New format for resolving the Syrian conflict has been established on Tuesday.
The US has been pushed out of the Middle East and has lost most of its influence despite of its military presence in Iraq.
Ankara took the role of the mediator with the “opposition” per the Russian government’s request. This completely puts Washington and the EU format out of business. On December 16, the president of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev issued a statement: “The Russian and Turkish leaders expressed interest in holding peace negotiations in Astana of the conflicting parties in Syria. Nursultan Nazarbayev supported that initiative and announced his preparedness to provide a platform for such talks in the Kazakh capital.”
The US State Department spokesperson John Kirby during his daily press briefing on December 20th stated that also the US wasn’t a party to the talks on Syria the Secretary of State’s John Kerry was briefed by the Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and by the Foreign Minister of Turkey, there also was a press briefing after the meeting which the US was allowed to attend.
Listen to the first ten minutes of the Kirby trying to calm down the hysterical American journalists who were asking him if the US has lost its influence around the world. He tried to smooth it out and downplayed the simple fact that the US has become irrelevant in the Middle East, despite of its military and secret services operations there.
“The secretary doesn’t see this as a snub at all. He sees it as another multilateral effort to try to get a lasting peace in Syria and he welcomes any progress towards that.”
“We would obviously refute any notion that … the fact that we weren’t at this one meeting is somehow a harbinger or a litmus test for U.S. influence and leadership there or anywhere else around the world.”
“We are not excluded, we are not being sidelined.”
Normally, I wouldn’t post the State department press briefing video, but this one is just too good to miss.
During the meetings on Tuesday the Moscow Declaration to end the Syrian War was adopted without any presence of the US. Russia, Turkey & Iran stated that they are ready to be guarantors in resolving Syrian crisis – Russian defense minister.
It’s clearly reflects Russia’s growing links with Iran and Turkey, despite of the attempt to undermine the process by murdering on Monday the Russia’s ambassador to Turkey.
At this point, the terror attacks on Russia and its allies before major diplomatic events have become routine. However, instead of sidelining those events, these terror attacks bring the major powers in Eurasia, Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Kazakhstan, India and everyone else together. Essentially we see in real time how terror attacks serve as catalysis to speed up the process of unification of Eurasia in the process of pushing the US and EU out of the continent, and curbing Israel’s and Saudis’ lust for blood in the region.
Like a wounded monster, the US tries to bring as much harm to Russia as it can. On December 20, Washington announced more political and economic sanctions of Russia this time on gas producer Novatek. Also on the list Crimean Ports, Crimean Railways, Stroiproekt Institute, Transflot, and two vessels bearing the Russian flag “Marshal Zhukov” and “Stalingrad.” Also more sanctions are imposed on the Glavgosexpertiza Rossii, the leading Russian institution dealing with expert reviews of design documents and findings of engineering surveys.
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov made a statement saying that:
“We will be expanding our lists, we will see how we can respond asymmetrically. We reserve the right to choose the timing, the venue and form of counter-moves the way that will suit us, and the way it will be relevant to our own priorities in the American direction.”
Russian, Turkish, Iranian FMs speak after Moscow meeting on Syria (Streamed live)by RT
Some new facts in the murder of the Russian Ambassador
Russia’s Investigative Committee has opened a criminal case on this assassination. A working group went to Ankara to take part in the probe into this crime together with the Turkish investigation.
President Putin said that “Karlov died as a soldier. He was an illustrious diplomat, enjoying a very good reputation in the country of his mission, he had good relations with the leadership of Turkey as well as with other political forces that respected him.”
On December 20th, Ergodan confirmed that a joint team has started probing into Russian ambassador’s murder
One of the Turkey’s pro-government daily Yeni Safak had published materials that points at the CIA being behind the assassination of Russian ambassador.
Hamza Sulyman, a retired Syrian army sniper tweeted some interesting photos:
During the Moscow meeting bodyguard of the Iranian Foreign Minister watching the bodyguard of the Turkish Foreign Minister
Bodyguard Iranian Foreign Minister watching bodyguard Turkish Foreign Minister pic.twitter.com/tgdCJc1gHu
— Hamza sulyman (@hamza_780) December 20, 2016
Photo of the killer while still in the police force
the killer pic.twitter.com/Hxob2BSDBU
— Hamza sulyman (@hamza_780) December 19, 2016
Also a touching footage of people in liberated Aleppo, reminds me of similar footage of people in liberated Warsaw and Berlin.
Syrian soldier is feeding children from the dangerous area of Aleppo. pic.twitter.com/vvEPxWFoo7
— Hamza sulyman (@hamza_780) December 20, 2016
Someone from the German AfD lamented that “thanks to Assad, in Syria you can now celebrate Christmas safer than in Germany. Merkel must go!”
The celebrate of Christmas In #Aleppo is safer than in Germany ..
Thanks to Assad
One of Germany party said … pic.twitter.com/IMjGqBpYkg
— Yusha Yuseef (@MIG29_) December 21, 2016
Don’t say that he had too many beers.
Peskov disclosed a bit of information on the Russian investigative group. It includes eighteen officers of special services, doctors and psychiatrists. They have been in Turkey from the second part of Tuesday.
The Russian Ambassador, as we know, had no Russian security detail. In essence, Russian security has not being allowed to operate and to carry arms outside of the mission according to the international practices, it’s the hosting country responsibility to provide the security for the foreign diplomats.
After being wounded, the Ambassador was without medical attention for 25 minutes.
A week ago, the assassin took part in the “protection” of the Russian Embassy, when an anti-Russian meeting in the protest against the liberation of Aleppo was organized near the mission’ building.
The shooting occurred at the Contemporary Arts Gallery in Ankara’s central Cankaya district, the Turkish state-run media agency.
On the day of the attack, the assassin stayed in a hotel near the art center.
While Altintas was not on duty, he used his police identification badge to enter the gallery with a gun, per Hurriyet Daily News.
The metal detectors were used at the entrance to the gallery, but there was no increased security because of the ambassador’s presence.
“This attack is a provocation aimed at disrupting our relations. I condemn it vehemently.” Erdogan
Altintas has not been tied to any Islamic terror organizations, on the contrary there are facts pointing that he was a part of the pro-Washington anti-government putsch, and that he was working with the US and Israel intelligence.
Mert Altintas was later killed during a gunfight with security forces, authorities told Anadolu, the Turkish state-run media agency. The operation to stop Altintas was led by special forces, Anadolu reports. He was shot about 15 minutes after the initial attack.
Russia’s intelligence expressed the dissatisfaction that he was killed, instead of being taken alive.
There are witness accounts, don’t know how credible, saying that he was surrendering when he was killed.
Someone pointed out the terrorist’s last name was Altintas, that could be translated as “gold stone” or Goldstein. Also, there was information that Altintas was actively involved with Turkish neo-liberal organizations in the US like “Young Turks.”
In November the Duran posted the following: “To watching the entire Young Turks team meltdown live on air as they insult all of America, call people “f***in dumb”, and then go on a bizarre rant threatening the DNC with all out war.”
On December 19th, in the wake of assassination President Putin had an emergency meeting with the Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, the head of foreign intelligence services Sergei Naryshkin and Alexander Bortnikov, the Director of the FSB.
“We have to know who gave orders to the assassin.” said Putin
Slain ambassador’s body arrives in Moscow, met by Russian & Turkish FMs
FM Lavrov speaks on assassinated ambassador to Turkey
The spokesperson for the Russian Foreign Ministry said that the Russia’s Ambassador Andrei Karlov was working to establish contacts with the Syrian opposition. He was talking to all sides of the Syrian conflict and was facilitating the dialogue between Syrian government and the opposition. “Consider this, this tragedy takes a completely new dimension.”
Apparently, Karlov’s work with the Syrian opposition somehow was leaked out to the West. On December 1, 2016 the Financial Times reported that Syrian rebels in secret talks with Moscow to end Aleppo fighting. “Turkey-facilitated negotiations without US show how Washington could become sidelined”
The way Erica Solomon phrases it for FT makes Kirby’s statements that the US only wants peace in the region regardless of an authorship of this peace sound like bold-faced lie. This also completely debasing one of the all time favorite Washington’s meme that Russia wants to destroy the “democratic Syrian opposition.”
” Syrian rebels are in secret talks with Russia to end the fighting in Aleppo, according to opposition figures, a development that shows how the US could become sidelined in some of the Middle East’s most pivotal conflicts.”
“The Russians and Turks are talking without the US now. It [Washington] is completely shut out of these talks, and doesn’t even know what’s going on in Ankara,” said one opposition figure, who asked not to be identified.”
This kind of situation couldn’t be tolerated by the Obama’s regime. No wonder that according to the Russia’s officials an assassination of the Ambassador was carried out by the CIA.
I want to use this SITREP to address a couple of issues that I believe are being misunderstood in terms of Russia and Turkey relations.
Turkey has a powerful and very active pro-Washington, pro-Israel and pro-EU opposition. On the top of this, Turkey is heavily infected with NATO and other foreign intelligence operatives, including those who operate as jihadists. The 5th columnists, accompanied by the motley crew of murderers for hire are doing everything, including the demolition of the Turkish economy and the assassination attempts on Erdogan. Those who scream that Russia has to instantly cut off all the relations with ” Turkey the Backstabber” are only helping those neo-liberal interests.
Frankly, if Russia were to cut the diplomatic ties with Turkey today, tomorrow every Russian ambassador would be killed in every country. We are in the middle of the 1st World War in the twenty first century: the American and European war on Russia.
Only, unable to burn down Russian villages, and to hang Russian women and children in their town squares, democrats take down Russian passenger planes and kill ambassadors.
We have been dealing with this European sustained hatred towards Russians for centuries. When it comes to the emotional competency, the long-term hatred is delegated to those parts of human brain that deals with the most primitive skills. For me, this is representative of any average European.
In the US, the large part of the population doesn’t have this hatred and wants to have better relations with Russia, but until recently these people had no voice. The majority of those who have the political power and the media are those with the Brutish, Eastern European, and Israeli roots.
Long story short, the last war with Turkey was over 100 years ago, while we had two major wars with Europe in between. Turkey didn’t attack the Soviet Union during the last Europe’s war on Russia, despite of the Germany’s insistence and the covert British terror attacks on the Turks. Sounds familiar, right?
So, we were able to sustain good relations with Turkey. It’s our ally in the Middle East now, and it has its own very important mission. Only with Turkey, Russia and Iran can lock Europeans and Americans out of the ME, lock Israel and Saudis in, and with this to stabilize the region.
Turkey is developing better relations with the Syrian government, with Iran, and even with China, despite some bitter terror problems. Ergodan is now our guy. He is very smart, he is a patriot, and he wants what the best for his country. He has understood recently that Turkey will be peaceful and prosperous only as a part of a greater Eurasian union.
About Turkish troops in Northern Syria: Turks entered Syria per agreement between them, Russia, Iran and Syrian governments. The issue is very transparent. The US, Israel and EU want to divide Syria, and to create the Northern Syrian land corridor called Kurdistan. Washington was looking to have a complete control over this puppet territory, to control oil and gas routes to Europe, and to set up dry land routes for the military to move closer to the Iran’s, Russia’s, Afghanistan’s, Kazakhstan’s, China’s borders. This corridor would give the Western allies power to interrupt the trade routes, including the Silk Road and the North-South corridor from Russia to India via Iran.
If the north of Syria would be made into a land corridor and was occupied by the Western allies this would eventfully bring complete devastation to the entirety of Eurasia, not just the Middle East.
One after another nations that are still standing would be pushed back into stone age. Kurds, as the agents provocateurs, had already played their parts in the devastation of Iraq and Syria. It was them who went to the UN and cried crocodile tears and demanded the “international community” to punish Saddam for some made up crimes against them. See how Egypt just arrested a group producing videos of “injured children of Aleppo” with fake blood and teddy bears, just to get a glimpse into the industrial production of fake video evidences of nonexistent war crimes.
For the past two centuries, the Kurdish elite has been serving the British crown, and with the same passion and devotion they have laid themselves under Washington.
I have to admit that there are healthy groups of Kurds who want to cooperate with the Syrian and Turkish governments, and who just want to be the normal citizens of their countries.
Those, however, who dream the impossible dream that Washington would create for them a heaven on earth, end up terrorizing Turkey with at least 300 people killed and over thousand of injured, in a course of one year. They have turned a prosperous, peaceful, tourist oriented country into a terror hellhole.
Knowing all this and more, the Syrian government could not start fighting with the Syrian Kurds for obvious reasons, since they are citizens and fight with ISIS. Russia and Iran couldn’t do anything either. The only other country that has the legitimate reason to use military force to bring Kurds to heel is Turkey. That’s why the Turkish troops are in Syria. They are acting as place-holders o make sure that Western troops can’t get there.
Thank you for your time,
Scott and Baaz
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It is hard for me as an American to know what is going on with Turkey. A couple of years ago I heard rumors that the US (CIA) wanted to replace Erdogan with their Gulenist enterprise. Erdogan was made out to be a Ottoman Empire 2 wannabe. it does seem to be true that he wants to be the center of power in Turkey and cut out democracy. For a while the Turkish military kept Turkey in the US NATO orbit. A large part of the Turkish population was secular and Western oriented but Europe seemed not interested in letting Turkey into the European Union . There were also links to the old European Gladio link with fascist type. Then original Gladio was sidelined. Gladio B using militant jihadists was instigated. To make up for the lost trade during Iraq sanctions Turkey got billions from heroin on its way to Europe. Probably gets even more now with the US in Afghanistan and Kosovo a convenient stop on the way. Some even say NATO lets the Turks fly it right into Germany. For a while Erdogan cooperates for his own reasons with the US to help with Assad regime change. Jihadists have safe passage and sanctuary in Turkey. His airforce shoots down a Russian bomber. Then the particularly inept Gulenist coup attempt happens. Erdogan uses this to cement his own power. He obviously thinks the US was behind it. Now he seems to be aligned with Russia. Funny how Obama says the US will retaliate for the Russians interfering in the election. (more fake news to me), Within a week the Russian ambassador is assassinated.
There is absolutely no reason to allow Turkey into the EU. It is behaving like a hostile entity:
– in the 1980s Europe saw a wave of Christian Turk refugees. Nowadays hardly a Christian is left. Building a church in Turkey is virtually impossible.
– Turkey tries to maintain control over its emigrant community inside the EU and encourages them not to integrate.
– Turkey keeps occupying Northern Cyprus.
The push to get Turkey into the EU comes from the US that in that way wants to integrate it closer into its sphere of influence – including NATO.
With Erdogan any illusion of similar values has disappeared. But of course the Yankeebots like Merkel keep pushing.
Russia and Turkey were vigorously at war during WWI. When Turkey as the Ottoman Empire was part of the Central Powers (Austria-Hungary,Germany,Turkey,and Bulgaria) at war with the Russian Empire. The collapse of Russia with the Revolution and the surrender of Turkey to the allies,the war ended.After that until today,Turkey and Russia have had peaceful relations.
Respectfully how so “Uncle Bob”?, given Turkeys historic Muslim Caliphate messing on Russia’s border and now in the Ukrainian and Crimea as well as in Syria. Turkey’s position and Erdogan’s ambitions remains an eternal enigma and mystery to me. Don’t know how Putin has put up with the backstabbing rat for this long? First he takes down a Russian jet fighter and kills his pilot, now he carelessly allows the murder of Russia’s ambassador to Turkey, I don’t know what you and Putin know that I don’t. Please enlighten me as to what I am missing here. “Peace” at what cost to Russia?
When I said peaceful relations ,I didn’t mean “problem free”. The Russians (Soviets) did/do have problems with Turkey trying to build influence in the Caucasus and Central Asia. But in the last years under Erdogan those problems increased. In prior times they were small. It seems with Erdogan’s “play both sides” game, those issues are worse. Right “now” Erdogan seems to be “playing” the Russian card. But with him its hard to tell if that is permanent,or only temporary.
An other Russian official killed today in Moscow, identified as 56-year-old Petr Polshikov, a high-ranking diplomat said to have been a senior figure in the Latin American section of the ministry.
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russian-official-shot-dead-in-moscow/news-story/67134d8a9b464c50a303a19bfb124d78 and many other news outlets.
We are in an asymmetric world war already. The fact that diplomats are fair game (for one side anyways) tells about who the enemy is, might be and the nature of the fight. Karlof and Poshikov are martyrs. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will see God.
One hundred (and five) years ago Stolypin was murdered out of fear of a strong Russia; now diplomats–fear of a multi-polar world?
Since I have been aware just recently on the figure of Stolypin, I will post the page on him from Wikipedia, for those who, like me, have not read anything about him before, could make themselves a slightly idea and can judge by themselves if his murder has to do with whoever´s “fear of a strong Russia”, as you state, or was a false falg event perpetrated by interested parts in order to achieve a situation of martiall law to contain the increasingly and widely spreaded discontent of the labour masses of peasants and workers which could have been perhaps managed by making the fair concessions claimed besides of prosecuting the activity of the dead squads so called “Black Hundreds”, whose terrorist acts were let do by the policial authorities and officials in charge of the Tsarist regime, and even participated by them. So, instead of root cut this terrorist activity and make the fair and necessary concessions that were suggested by Mr. Witte ( who made a whole document on reforms to be made, which then constituted the “October Manifesto” ) what was displayed was a harsh repression, ordered by Mr. Stolypin which would lead to the 1905 Revolution and, after that, since still Nicholas II was stubborn and mean enough to even consider stablishing a dictature ( proposing his uncle the Great Duch as the visible head, i.e. the dictator, instead of he himself ) before than making any concessions, and when decided to give in a little was too late, to the 1917 Revolution.
From my point of view, and after analysing a bit both figures, Mr. Stolypin and Mr. Witte, it was the latter who, had he been heared and his advices followed, would have perhaps could have avoided the revolution. Mr. Stolypin, perhaps was a good agricultural planificator and, most probably, his role shoould have ended there, but never had the vision, openess, fairness, lack of economical of power ambition and, above all, lack of prejudices Mr. Witte had.
But, as many time happens in life, then, you have that a statue was erected to honour Mr. Stolypin in fron of the place where he was assassinated, while Mr. Witte had a fourth cathegory funeral.
I will left the interesting pages on these events for those who wanted to start researching a bit on the issue. I find of the greatest importance for us who are not Russians an live in the West to study this issues in order to counter the retoric of interested parts who tell history the way it fits them better for their purposses.
Of course, each one will take its own conclussions, according with its ideas, principles and values.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hundreds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Stolypin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Witte
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Manifesto
“The dominating element of the Empire, the Russians, fall into three distinct ethnic branches: the Great, the Little, and the White Russians, and 35 per cent, of the population is non-Russian. It is impossible to rule such a country and ignore the national aspirations of its varied non-Russian national groups, which largely make up the population of the Great Empire. The policy of converting all Russian subjects into “true Russians” is not the ideal which will weld all the heterogeneous elements of the Empire into one body politic. It might be better for us Russians, I concede, if Russia were a nationally uniform country and not a heterogeneous Empire. To achieve that goal there is but one way, namely to give up our border provinces, for these will never put up with the policy of ruthless Russification. But that measure our ruler will, of course, never consider.” Witte’s Memoirs, p. 265.
Quoting Wiki as a source for Russian history is a joke. And calling Tsar Nicholas stubborn and mean is repeating western vilification in order to murder them.
Well, I was just being restrained, Mr. Witte thought of him directly “a coward”, on what I definitely agree, but what I am sure of is that he was not a “saint”.
Anyway, it seemed to me that those pages were including good sources below, although everybody writting on Russian history has agenda, as happens with Orlando Figues.
I wonder what do you not understand on I will left the interesting pages on these events for those who wanted to start researching a bit on the issue., where clearly I am saying about these pages as an starting point to all who do not know nothing about this, as happened to me.
But then, If you do not noticed, I am sayingeach one will take its own conclussions, according with its ideas, principles and values, so, what´s the problem?
That´s the idea I made myself about the events, of course, when I have the time, I will continue reading, but, on the contrary of most of you, I will not finish in reading only Solzhenitsyn.
Those pages of Wikipedia are a good start point to know in a very summarized way the most important events leading to the 1917 Revolution and to understand the origins of the other numerous revolutions and revolutions intends. Complaints, oppression and discrimination
were present enough for enough time so as to debunk the so spreaded theory in this blog on a “judeo-masonic conspiracy to subvert the idilic order under the Romanov Tsars”. The serfs lived in deplorable conditions, especially among the poorest and in the worst of conditions, precisely,, those in charge of Mr. Sotolypin. Then the Jews were subjected to exaggerated discrimination, their well founded protests drowned by the terror of nationalist death squads the Pravyi Sektor style. The call to be part of these “Black Hundreds” was made from the pulpits of many Orthodox churches, and even some of its members participated directly in the Pogroms, which would explain the subsequent hatred and attack on this particular church. The solution Mr. Stolypin found ( many of whose glorious ideas were of Mr. Witte himself, btw ) was to declare martial law and to create a class of privileged agricultural proprietors ( kulaks) to act to contain the masses and to underpin the absolute power of the Tsar. Tsar Nicholas II was considering the possibility of establishing a dictatorship, with his uncle, the Great Duch, as a visible head ( he did not even have the rennet of putting himself, since it was his own mean idea ) rather than accept Mr Witte’s reform proposals, and only resigned when his uncle threatened to commit suicide right there if he did not put in place the reforms. And so on, and so on.
I cited those pages based on writtings of several authors which seemed to me less biased that recommending an author in itself, but, since available in the net and, I guess, out off suspicions for everybody because of his probed loyalty to Russia, if you prefer, you could well start with Mr. Witte´s Memoirs, which were found deposited in a bank in Bayonne ( French Basque Country, where the man liked to spend the winter in his last days, not so cold as St. Petersburg, but still too wet climate ), and which, I do not know why on Earth, finished in Columbia University:
https://ia601403.us.archive.org/22/items/memoirsofcountwi00wittuoft/memoirsofcountwi00wittuoft.pdf
> Tsarist regime < and relying on Wikipaedia : revealing !
I shall remain polite.
Good night
Al Nusra claim responsibility for ambassadors murder
Reported on Sputnik
Who funds them ?
Who trains them ?
Crosstalk posits to-day that the murder was designed to disrupt relations between T and R. Others may see a deeper truth – that the un-named state seeks and is pursuing a policy of war against Russia. The collapse of the Syrian policy and the success of the Syrian-Russian-Iranian team is a victory, yes, but is seen in the sinister realm as a cause to increase the violence. War they must have, and soon, and the cold sweat of fear grips them as they realize that they’re losing everything.
They have simply doubled their bet.
One might also say that the failure of the nazi army at Stalingrad “catalyzed” the conquest of Berlin. True, but a non-central cause…
The deliberate murder of an ambassador is perhaps the second-oldest crime…and a sure sign of both Policy and Desperation, but not necessarily weakness.
The treatment of the act as a crime is cunning and smart, but the criminal have no reason to stop, do they? They have long ago cast the die.
I think Turkey and Russia can truly cooparate in Eurasian Unoin not in Shanghai Cooperation Organisation because there is a need for balance between Atlantic and Pacific (Shanghai) Bloc. Obviously Eurasian Economic Union is a concrete alternative for it. In order to achive Eurasian Economic Union alternative, Ukraine and the Caucasus needs stability. Turkey can supports Russia in Eastern Europe and Caucasus if Russia does the same for Turkey in Middle East and Central Asia. By the way journalists who work Sputnik Turkey is mostly Apoist Kurds with close relationships USA and Europe. Sputnik Turkey needs to change their reporters in Turkey.
Scott and Baaz,
There are a few statements you make in the article that are misleading at best.
“Ergodan is now our guy. He is very smart, he is a patriot, and he wants what the best for his country.”
Erdogan is yet anyone’s guy. He has a dire need to be Russia’s guy, but he still ain’t anyone’s guy. And he is intelligent but not smart. He’s cunning but not smart.
And patriot is not the first or tenth word any observer would use to describe him. He loves himself and MB Islam. If he loved Turkey first, it would not be such a mess and danger to everyone and himself, in particular. He is learning what a patriotic leader is the very hard way.
And,too, he wants only the best for himself, not Turkey. He would not have done the things he has done for the last two years against Russia (Turkish Stream), against his once terrific economy, and against his people.
“He has understood recently that Turkey will be peaceful and prosperous only as a part of the greater Eurasian union.”
Only since the coup when Russia/Putin and Kazahkstan/Nazabayev came to his rescue and counseled him has he seen SCO and the OBOR development fits perfectly with Turkey’s economic needs and development, as well as Turkic language influence throughout most of Central Asia all the way into China (Uyghurs in Xinjiang) gives him huge opportunities. Basically, if he was truly smart and aware of Eurasia,he would have been all in long ago. Instead, he had an ideological fantasy of using Turkey as a Sharia nation to rebuild the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East and Southern Europe and Balkans.
“Turks entered Syria per agreement between them, Russia, Iran and Syrian governments.”
Turks did not enter Syria with an agreement from anyone. They went in full force and shocked the Russians. It has been clarified and accepted, limited by Putin’s constant work through all contacts of Intel, Military and Diplomatic talks. Only in the most recent (yesterday) talks are they (Turkey, Russia and Iran) working out where, how, for how long, the Turks get to fight the Kurds using the FSA, and getting out of the entanglements with al Nusra and other AQ/ISIS groups (like in Idlib).
And Syria is not in those talks nor in the one to take place in Astana, as far as the information made public indicates. Assad trusts Russia. He has little recourse. If you noticed, he called up reserves yesterday, so he plans on lots more war.
(And there are reports that Russian Airborne are in and on the ground. A paratrooper died at Palmyra. Also, two Chechen battalions are being formed for service in Syria. That was news yesterday.)
“It was them (Kurds) who went to the UN and cried crocodile tears and demanded the “international community” to punish Saddam for some made up crimes against them.”
Your memory fails you. Something about gassing the Kurds (1988 Halabja), you might recall. Saddam’s general even bragged about it until the day he died.
Hardly Kurdish crocodile tears. True genocidal ethnic cleansing (thousands died).
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201612221048867496-russia-turkey-syrian-crisis/
seems to be a sensible article about Iran -Turkey relationships that is the weakest link in solving the Syrian crisis.
When are we going to get some reporting on the Donbass again and things like the privatisation of Privatbank etc? What’s happening in kiev etc about the unpayable utility bills etc?
Just because we are British does not mean we are anti-Russian, you need to differentiate between the British Government and its people, many of whom would even like Putin to be their leader, and have stated so openly.
Apologies, should be nationalisation, not privatisation.
Most of this analysis is cogent, however, saying “Ergodan is now our guy. He is very smart, he is a patriot, and he wants what the best for his country.” is discordant.
Erdogan is a deranged lunatic, extremely dangerous and not to be trusted.
President Putin was very clear when he said that Russia, Turkey, Iran, and those who are interested in ending the war in Syria are the welcomed parties in this game. I.e., implicitly, he said that the US and its subjugated vassals are not welcome because they are not interested in peace.
The zionazis must be eating their own livers this time… What a “poetic justice!”
It’s becoming clearer by the day that the world is not the same any more because of the obvious Stalingrad effect.
”Erdogan is now our guy”, ROFL thanks for the laugh.
Excellent analysis. Love it.
Scott,
Check this out cos you ain’t daft.
Now can someone provide an alternative explanation, to the analysis given here.
“Berlin Truck Hoax – False Flag Staged Event (Proof)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMAInv1UFU
The murder of the Russian Ambassador is even more puzzling. Now I can almost believe that if there was a crazed gunman right in front of me pumping a large number of bullets almost directly towards me, then out of a spirit of wanting to capture this historic moment, I would continue videoing him, and even pan out to capture him on my last frame. I think it more likely, that I would drop to the ground as fast as The Ambassador and probably make a mess of the floor too (just in the hope that I might survive) I must admit the quality of both the still and video photography was exceptionally good, but this may simply be down to the skills and courage of Turkish photographers.
I would also like to point out that the room where the Ambassador was assassinated – both walls and ceiling were completely white – and didn’t reveal even one spec of red blood. I have never been in this situation before, but a few years ago, my cats had caught a magpie – and brought it into our front room, the walls of which had been white. They were no longer – but that’s cats and one magpie for you. Incidentally the magpie survived, but had obviously lost a lot of blood – as it was all over my walls as if we had a visit from the guy who does the chainsaw massacre.
I can see no political motivation for this whatsoever, but suggest the Russian authorities make a full check of the coffin. I am not suggesting the Ambassador is still alive but am very impressed that he didn’t leak.
Merry Christmas, and lets hope 2017 is less insane than 2016.
Tony
Tony
It’s truly offensive. It’s absolutely inappropriate.
A troll who “debunks” Bible prophesies with 132 followers comes out of 4 years of hibernation to “debunk” the death of the Russian Ambassador, that was witnessed by hundreds Turks, guests, police, emergency crew.
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Please, do not waste our time, Tony.
Anonymous,
I do apologise. I certainly do not want to offend anyone, and I am merely asking questions, to try and make some sense out of the current nonsense.
I do not have a problem with Russians or Ambassadors, and I admit I did see Saturday Night Fever in Leicester Square London in 1977.
Well The Turkish Assassin must have learnt it somewhere..
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(someone did a very good photoshop of the two images together- but its probably been deleted now)
Tony
” witnessed by hundreds Turks, guests, police, emergency crew. ”
9/11 was witnessed by thousands. Was that a valid , real, event ?? Dont waste OUR time anonymous.
Only in Hollywood movies do people leak blood like a sieve.
When the heart stops, blood being pumped around the body also stops as does the pressure in your veins. If there is a bullet hole or two, you will still seep out blood, but pending on the clothing and position of the entry holes, if in the back and no exit holes and the victim lying on his front, THERE WILL BE NO BLOOD leaking out heavily, only slight around the entry wounds and that being soaked up by clothing.
Clearly, the author of this post needs to visit a war zone to gain some simple knowledge of gunshot wounds.
All of this fight and war business reminds me of the book 1984 where the title character, was his name Winston Smith, advised that there always seemed to be a 3 way war going on. But he said he didn’t believe that there was any war at all-that it was all fake.
C’mom, Ergodan is Erdogan’s own guy and can’t be trusted unless you are holding a gun against his head more or less literally.
Erdogan is a key architect of the conditions at Turkey, and he failed to protect Russia’s ambassador adequately. He is the number 1 reason why bad things keep happening on his watch. If he is so smart then why didn’t he protect the ambassador or allow Russia to protect him?
His military incursion into northern Syria is unilateral. There is no evidence of a secret agreement, nor is the Turk invasion permitted by old agreements like the Adana Accord that Turkey itself shredded 5 years ago. The sooner his troops have departed from Syrian soil the better. Let the SAA and other members of the alliance deal with Syria’s Kurdish terrorists.
The only positive things one can say about Erdogan is that he is preferable to Gulen or any other alternative that the zionist cabal would impose and that he truly does not like the PKK terrorists. That doesn’t make him trustworthy or “our guy” by any stretch of the imagination. Erdogan clearly did not support the assassination, but that does not make him a good guy.
Russia should allow Turkey to create a safe zone in West of Euphrates including IDLIB. And then try to establish ceasfire between Asad and opposition. If opposition does not find a safe zone within Syria the war wont stop. Asad can control whole Aleppo, other part of country, Turkey can accept this agreement.
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You wrote: Russia should allow Turkey to create a safe zone in West of Euphrates including IDLIB.
Excellent point. Indeed, per mutual agreement, Turkey is building a camp for 80,000 people in this area. Turkey has the logistic, trained personnel and resources to take care of them, to debrief them, and to decide what to do further. The “opposition” that agreed to stop fighting trusts Turkey.
Hopefully. If Russia and Turkey can reach an agreement and the war will end.
As Dr. Assad has said, in almost every interview (and there have been many), this warring against Syria will not stop until foreign countries stop hiring mercenaries and providing them with weapons and protection as they continue to wreak havoc through murderous attacks against the Syrian People and their duly elected government. The borders of this sovereign nation will be restored and secured, and if Turkey wants a “safe zone” they can put it in Turkey.
Thank you, Ladies and gents for commenting
1. Q. Al Nusra claim responsibility for ambassadors murder. Who funds them ?
A. Al Nusra is Israel
2. Q. When are we going to get some reporting on the Donbass again and things like the privatisation of Privatbank etc?
A. I will do it this week.
Kiev regime attacked Donbass republics in retaliation for Aleppo liberation.
Privatbank was a recipient of IMF loans. Money reportedly had vanished.
http://observer.com/2016/05/the-u-s-is-missing-millions-in-ukraine/
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/breaking-imf-officials-helped-steal-ukraine-funds-us-investigating/ri9505
Now, Kiev regime bailed out Kolomoyski and took on $5.7 billion deficit that the population of Ukraine will be paying back to IMF and other investors.
Thank you for the Sitrep.
A very interesting article in NEO:
http://journal-neo.org/2016/12/16/aleppo-starts-uncovering-washingtons-evil-designs/
“…….A few days ago new facts about Washington’s sponsorship of ISIS appeared in the Bulgarian media, along with the pictures and video made in eastern Aleppo by the Nova TV journalists. The crew stumbbled upon a warehouse that was used by the Jabhat al-Nusra militants, where they discovered munitions for the BM-21 “Grad” self-propelled multiple rocket launchers, bearing visible indications that they were produced by the Bulgarian manufacturer VMZ (Vazovskaya Heavy Machinery)…..”
It has been said elsewhere, but I notice that the assassin exhibits behavior suggesting the influences of a stimulant drug. I recall reading that the assassins at the Maiden affair, Kiev, 2014, were also said to have been given stimulants. Some mixture, perhaps, like pervitin or captigon, or the old reliable dextromethamphamine hydrocloride… If so, then I propose a primary associate to interview – his dope dealer… Now what organisation has the dope contracts in Turkey…
Yup!
The matter these days orbits round violence, pity… And the affair of the murder of the ambassador serves as an example. But, more generally, the violence is often not what it may seem… Thus I recommend a post at: http://adeyinkamakinde.blogspot.com/
A QC, and interesting man in his own wright… a pithy essay,,, a sample: “The unit’s members did not operate under the Yellow Card rules of engagement which governed the use of force employed by soldiers in Northern Ireland. MRF operatives opened fire on unarmed civilians and shot at IRA suspects even if it was uncertain that they were carrying weapons. As one MRF soldier said, “If they needed shooting they’d be shot”.”
It’s about infiltration and false flags, cointelpros, all that.
It s a news to me that foreign diplomats’ security is restricted to the embassies, I have always seen those with their guards. In fact on the photo ubove you see the Iranian and Turkish guards in Russia.
Putin said today that Turkey restricted Russian security to the embassy (did not say when) and “may be Russia should have pressed for change”.
R
“see the Iranian and Turkish guards in Russia”
They don’t carry guns.
Today, Putin said that there was a common rule, in line with which the embassy’s armed guards work inside the embassy and do not go outside with arms
http://tass.com/politics/921330
He also said that Russia will demand a security increase for it’s diplomats.
Does US / Israeli embassy security carry weapons outside the compound ?? You bet they do. One set of rules for the serfs, another for the masters.
Oh, Sir, removed Erdogan is and what his party AKP stand for. And, here is a small summary:
AKP is a “project party”, formed with the encouragement of US by Turkish islamists who have always been willing to play ball with the americans. It was the first step of replacing regimes in the middle east american friendly islamist parties. It is very similar to muslim brotherhood in Egypt. Their collaborations (Islamists and the US) goes back to 1950s with “Struggle against communism societies” where the roots of AKP and other islamist factions stand.
AKP was also supported by Turkish business groups due to their openly pro-market neoliberal “reform” promises. Indeed, they delivered. There is now almost no public investment, everything that was remaining in the hands of the state were auctioned off for astonishingly small prices. And the rights of workers diminished. And, the rich class of Turkey have been happy with it, until AKP started to attack them. They realized that their sacred “right to own property” might not be respected after all; but it is now too late.
AKP is now a loose cannon that US has created, and apparently they are having problems controlling it but in no ways it is capable of acting independently from Washington. But make no mistake, it is just that US sometimes has to pull the leash a bit but that’s about it.
The whole eurasian talk emanating from AKP is just to please its domestic audience but nothing more. So, their latest agreements (capitulation really) with Russia is also because Russians now held them by the balls, just like americans.
As a result, they started doing all sorts of contradictory and stupid things like a headless chicken. And like a headless chicken, time is running out for it. Good riddance.
Thanks, kemerd
You wrote: “AKP is now a loose cannon that US has created”
The US operates by inserting virus-like structures and persons. On average, it’s about 5% of population that depends on the US money and work for Washington and against their own nations.
“The whole eurasian talk emanating from AKP is just to please its domestic audience but nothing more”
That tells me that population wants Eurasian integration.
I would refer you to the beginning of 2000s in Russia
/grandmaster-putin-grandiose-multi-step-operation-lasting-16-years/
Russia has blueprints and help for anyone who wants liberation from the global parasite.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and Erdogan has made a few already.
Projection vassalgab excerpts that are enough to make your blood boil from a duplicitous handmaiden to the barbarians:
Dion calls on Russia to join fight against ‘bloody’ ideology of terror
“All of this is linked by an “extremely bloody” ideology spouted by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, says Foreign Affairs Minister Stephane Dion.
And it is about time Russia starts pulling its weight in fighting it, instead of pursuing its “bitter” victories in Syria, says Canada’s top diplomat.”
(Dion, as well you know, Russia is just about the only country openly fighting ISIL)
“Dion also lamented the recent fall of Aleppo — from which convoys of shell-shocked civilians have departed.”
(Dion, these very words condemn you)
“Dion said Canada regularly tells Russia to do more to fight ISIL in Syria instead of targeting anti-Assad rebels. It’s a message he has personally delivered to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov”
I hope Lavrov tells (diplomatically) this apron-string holding weasel (apologies to Mustelidae) where to stick it.
From Dion’s state broadcaster:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/dion-russia-terror-1.3906267
It goes beyond shamelessly unconscionable hypocritical duplicitous words. Canadian Defense Minister Dion and our quisling Obama tool boy Prime Minister hairdo PC SJW feminist Justin Trudeau, shamelessly having just sold some 15 billion worth of armaments to the head and hand chopping Wahhabi terrorist exporting medieval Saudi Kingdom regime, that’s committing war crimes and genocide against both Syria and Yemen’s innocent women and children, to Canada’s eternal shame. Soaked in blood up to his eyeballs, and criminal complicity in heinous war crimes and spreading terrorism world wide, this despicable soulless excuse for a man, now has the audacity to lecture ambassador Lavrov and Russia for not fighting the same terrorism he is enabling? God there is no accounting even in hell for the depth of shameless deception and inhumanity our politicians are capable of. What makes them any different than the Nazi’s put on trial for the Holocaust and wars of aggression? Somehow we need to find a way to hold them to account here EH!..Ray
Hello Moderator’s; Respectfully ask, whatever happened to my considered reply to “SanctuaryOne’s” and “Anonymous’s” posts here some hours ago?
I’m sorry I don’t see any of your posts held up for review. Some people have reported some posting problems,and we are checking on them. But if your posts were “considered replies” I see no reason they wouldn’t have been posted. If you have duplicates maybe you could resend them. MOD
My comment and your response somehow disappeared. I see the Iranian and Turkish guards behind their respective charges on the photo above. I did not see any guards but the assasin behind Andrey Karlov.
The assassin entered the premises pretending to be the Embassador’s guard (this is what Turkey says) and was let in with his gun. If guards are not allowed to be armed how that happened? There is a contradiction here.
R
If you would read up on the facts, you would learn that Russian guards can’t be armed except for inside the Russian embassy in Turkey. The armed protection of an ambassador is solely the task and responsibility of the host country to enforce. In the case of Turkey, seems dilettante megalomaniac turkey Erdogan didn’t pay due diligence to the vetting of his own armed “security” forces. After shooting down a Russian jet fighter and now the Russian ambassador, is their any hope for the idiot, of ever getting it right? I have my own doubt’s but admire Putin’s enduring patience, as I would have burned all bridges and wrecked havoc on him a long time ago.
Very, VERY interesting, as usual.
Unfortunately the inclusion of the AfD tweet was entirely gratuitous, doesn’t really add to the piece, and renders the piece unshareable to anyone I’d care to talk to.
@Mods, I am surprised that no one has reported this except one or three ( genuine? ) commenters but, while the comments remain being approved in the RSS feed of comments, they do not appeared in the threads, which remain frozen at least from yesterday evening and i see continue the same at this hour.
I do not know if this is a result looked for, since I have seen other manouvers of which the commentariat has not been warned.
We have had some problems with posting that we are looking at. I myself have noticed that I have to reload the site sometimes to get new comments to show up on the threads.MOD
This is a RSS problem. Your comment was approved and posted. However when you click on the comment in the rss feed it takes you to a ‘stale’ page that does not show the comment. If you refresh the page by clicking on the refresh button your comment will be visible. I do not yet know why rss serves a stale page. Only a few access the comments via rss so its not widely reported …Herb
Thank you, Herb, I only wanted to make you know in case it had not been detected.
Take care ( and rest )
Merry Christmas!.
H
I don’t use RSS feed. I noticed that every time I came to the site it was only displaying what had been posted as of early on 21 Dec., both articles and comments. Doing a refresh would show the newer material. So would posting a new comment. This problem did not exist before the wee hours of 21 Dec.
‘ For me, this is representative of any average European….In the US, the large part of the population doesn’t have this hatred and wants to have better relations with Russia’
The average European I have known as a European, harbours no primitive, inherent fear or antipathy towards Russia. Most see it as a cold country, perhaps a few leagues behind the rest of the modernised world. The vast majority of anti-Russian rhetoric comes from the US, that is where the propaganda begins, then is disseminated. People are told to hate and fear Russia, as they were told to hate Assad, its nothing in built, its brainwashing…and its close to laughable to suggest that the US folk lack this hatred, when they appear more generally and commonly the most easily led flock on the planet.
‘Ergodan is now our guy. He is very smart, he is a patriot, and he wants what the best for his country. He has understood recently that Turkey will be peaceful and prosperous only as a part of a greater Eurasian union.’
You are referring to a man who harbours obvious and overt eagerness to return to the Ottoman empire, to become a Sultan in all but word, a man hellbent on religious madness driven policy. A man who has been proven to be directly involved with the purchase of oil from ISIS and supply of recruits, mercenaries, arms to the marauding savages who have decimated Syria. He has no interest in peace, unless its a peace which honours him as Emperor and everyone dances to his tune. The Russians do not react, let alone flinch, when they are attacked, they plot, they pivot, they make moves to place their enemies exactly where they want them, sew divisions between their enemies and the allies of their enemies, all for their gain.
Putin and the Russians en-masse, do not simply forget the support for IS/Nusra and the downing of their fighter jet. That is in the bank and everything that has come since has been part of the reaction, slowly positioning Erdogan, against his former supporters in the West and Tel Aviv, and herding him into becoming an ‘ally’, but he is no ally in anything but economic gain and Russia’s eagerness to cure Syria of its ailments.
The Turkish Stream matters to Russia. Making any deals to meet their aims in Syria matters to Russia. Yet to present Erdogan as you have, seems at best rather naive…Turkey is a key NATO ally in the Middle East. This has not changed.
“For the past two centuries, the Kurdish elite has been serving the British crown”
If this is true, it sure didn’t do them much good. It was the British and French who, after WWI, divided the Middle East in a way to preclude a Kurdish state and set the Kurds up for a conflict with their neighbors. The Kurds used to get along with the Arabs.
The murder of Karlov made me think of Mike Morell’s desire to kill Russians in Syria.
I was surprised to see The Young Turks described as a neoliberal outfit. That isn’t my take. Unger created a successful internet news program, was hired by MSNBC, and then fired because he was unwilling to refrain from criticizing Obama or the Democrats. Now he has an internet news program again. Sometimes he is fooled by U.S. propaganda but I see him as an independent person rather then part of the U.S. propaganda system.
First let me say, I read this article with interest and for most part I found it very good and informative.
Howevr, I want to comment on the last part of it, starting with “I want to use this SITREP to address a couple of issues […]”
To me the way Turkey behaves – domestically and toward Syria, Russia, the US and NATO allies, Israel, Iran, the Kurds (Turkish, Syrian and Iraqi) and the various terrorist groups operating in the region – is for the most part incomprehensible and riddled with paradoxes and contradictions.
I felt you were about to say there’s an internal power-strugle going on in Turkey (maybe that’s like kicking in an open door, after Turkey’s July coup) and that Erdogan seeks better relations with the East, while the opposition seeks to maintain relations with the West.
So I didn’t understand all of the last part and felt disagreement with many details. To mention one (and call a spade a spade): Turkey doesn’t have a very clean record on treating ethnic minorities and still denies them their ethnic identities and human rights, so I don’t recognize Turkey’s moral authority to blame the Kurds and Russia doesn’t need to back Turkey through thick and thin on this issue.
But I still trust the authors enough to ask them to dedicate a serious article on what’s going on in Turkey: which actors play key roles; what are their motives; in which direction is the balance of power in Turkey moving? Maybe the authors know better informed colleagues to pass on this proposal (up to themselves), because I feel this is an undercovered issue in the general reporting around the war in Syria.
>>>We have been dealing with this European sustained hatred towards Russians for centuries. When it comes to the emotional competency, the long-term hatred is delegated to those parts of human brain that deals with the most primitive skills. For me, this is representative of any average European.<<<
Being an average european, I vehemently protest this. I love Russia and I think Putin is our last hope. Many, many friends and fellow citizens in EU think the same (many europeans think russians are "europeans" too, sharing our same story, religion, traditions and so on, while multiculturalism is killing us).
Well put! As a fellow European…the generalisation was insulting and grossly inaccurate.
Scott
“A. Al Nusra is Israel”
All of that terrorist scum are. Syria is an israeli/zionazi war, just like the others in the region. The zioscum regard the region as theirs the same way the pindo’s have claimed the “Americas”.
Quite obvious the Russian ambassador was assassinated by zionazis, they are well known for targeting ambassadors. The actual assassin was a programmed asset.
Last time I looked, Russia was turkey’s largest trading partner, more than with the USA or any of the European countries. It may be less now, with all the zionazi bs of the last few years. The realisation that zio-europe has little interest in bringing turkey in, and that israel wants a balkanised turkey is probably why turkey is now in limbo. I wouldn’t go as far to characterize erdogan as “ours”, though.
Follow up
Also, the Astana meet, by being pindo free, was also israeli free. The assassination of the Russian ambassador to turkey was a zionazi terror op against Russia for excluding the subhuman sods, while at the same team a desperate attempt to create conflict between Russia and turkey. The oded yinon greater israel Jew-nazis want Syria bad.
This is the outcome of the Obama “lead from behind” doctrine. I guarantee you, Barack Obama is secretly very happy about this.
Since he was a boy he has been taught to hate what you call “the Empire”; many of the people commenting here would have found in Barack Obama a delightful fellow traveler if you met him back before he was president.
It wasn’t FAIR, the US the lone superpower in the world, oppressing brown people and Muslims. He is deeply anti “Zionist” and has repeatedly shown that he is no friend of Israel.
Obama fully believes that the “Arab Spring” was the wonderful blossoming of Islamic civilization that HE unleashed. There is some very funny news video where American reporters, Obama fanboys all, are running around Tahir Square trying to find an Egyptian who will praise Obama for inspiring them with his Cairo speech. The Egyptians did not have kind words for Barack, he had been slow to embrace them.
The good news is President-elect Trump has little interest in picking up Obama’s mess. He will be quite happy to let Russia pick up the White Man’s Burden.
Ladies and gents,
thank you for a lovely discussion. I enjoy rereading your comments, and learning something new from you.
I will try to answer your questions in my future posts. I am trying to write as fast as I can, considering an avalanche of information coming from the Middle East as well as from Ukraine and from Russia.
I can see that we’re getting many new readers. Please, be aware that some issues have been addressed by us before. Use the search option on the site, to find out what we have already posted, including the great insightful comments of our readers, which are the integral part of our analytic.
Thank you and have a great day,
Scott
The Kurd corridor theory has the ring of truth, but I have a problem with it on a map, just as I do with the pipeline theory for the motive for way on Syria.
Trade routes and land corridor for military are already available through Northern Iraq. And a route to Egypt is even available via Jordan, it the Israelis have enough influence there.
I’ve been asking this question for three years: what does Syria provide to the AngloZionists geographically, that can’t already be accomplished through Northern Iraq?
Dean W. Arnold :
Such an excellent question , deserves a real answer . In 2005 Mary Landrieu tabled the “US – Israel Energy Cooperation Bill” . Mary is on the Board of “Genie Energy” (NJ) , along with J. L. Rothsechild , James Woolsey , Robert Murdock , Dick Cheney , Bill Richardson , and Michael Steinhardt . This company owns “AFEC Oil and Gas” , (Israeli). They have laid claim to the pool of oil beneath the Syrian Golan Heights (but Israeli occupied) . This pool of oil is 1000 feet thick and covers 150 square miles . Estimated by some to equal that of Saudi Arabia . If Syria were to be fractured into smaller “nations” , Syria would loose its legal claim to that occupied land by international law . If you read “WikiLeaks Files” (2015) by J. Assange , he discloses with US government documents how the war against Syria by the US administration began in 2006 .
Through the eyes of my kind, a citizen of a far east country, Europeans have much reason to hate Erdogan, firstly money.
Secondly, the humiliation they got by rendering money to Turkish people.
Why?
Because there might be certain long existing contempt on Turkish people, that European people have been holding on.
For them, Turkish people are the people who are supposed to be petty, who should not require anything of European people.
As such, objectively speaking(I’m totally objective than any of you because I’m an ordinary Japanese), European people speaking ill of Erdogan sound to me like “Turkey must be petty, Turkish people should be humble”.
Erdogan is, most likely not a perfect individual, but there’s something that rejects the premise that he’s only loving himself.
He won the money and no visa passing of EU for his people, not for himself.
Evaluation of Erdogan must be a subject that should be left to Turkish people first, not to the people outside Turkey.
If they see him someone who only loves himself, or not.
Same can be said about the issue of my country, let it left to us first, how to do with Shinzo Abe.
Well, what I ought to tell is that he’s nothing but a traitor, who’s selling out a country, cockroach, pest, disaster, no matter what outside people say about him.
From what I have become aware of since acquiring the Internet in Jan 1996, this all makes sense. But I’m here ta tell ya that yer gunna have a hell of a time simply getting the American and Canastian street to even THINK about the Middle East – let alone understand the issues over there. I’m 88 y/o., have spent some time in Iran and The Emirates and have a panoramic awareness who’s who and WHAT in global activities. My Social Studies teachers hammered world affairs into us – (albeit biased toward Britain) – but it got us THINKING, then we made up our own minds. The minds of the next two generations, however, have been smothered with mass-media’s mis-information-overload and mind-manipulation to produce canon-fodder for “American-Led” interventions. Most of them don’t even know what constitutes “The Middle East”, let alone what got the Afghan War going or the meaning of “The Great Game”!
This guy Kirby – Is he doing a “press-release” here, or is he spieling off a list of the empire’s “edicts” to the little “sovereign” nations that he thinks his masters lord it over? Does he not realize how much of a profound FOOL he appears here? When I was being oriented for an (Iran oil industry) instructor’s job , I was reminded, time and again, that I would have to “teach down to these people”. When I got over there and into it, I found that the young (20-30 y/o) trainees were far more adept at learning than my American colleagues were of teaching them. Nope, Kirby. Don’t fool yourself. The little people out there in the hinterland have got your number.