Hezbollah, allegedly, posted a picture of Netanyahu taken through his office window. The captions for the image say: “Don’t test our capabilities…”
A photo of Netanyahu is, allegedly, taken in Israel from a quadcopter drone.
Saker Message:
From Hizbulla, or the Jewish mafia, reminding boy bibi of a debt he has under serviced?
;-D
At least we can see that the camera of Hezbollah works properly, whereas a certain camera in an American prison did not ;-)
Cheers, Rob
Rob
Yeah but but but… no, it was really bad luck indeed, not to mention very opportune, that both cameras just happened to breakdown at this particular point of time.
Lol
Col
Interesting timing.
This photograph comes after the recent ‘testing’ / provocation of Hezbolla by Isreal on the Lebanese border by presenting and using ‘decoys’ and even remote control military vehicles. One decoy was actually photographed with a dummy in the drivers seat outside an IDF base – presenting an easy opportunistic target – which Hezbolla clearly explored from the footage they released.
Also very interesting is that there has been speculation on some blogs (and especially in the comment sections of some popular media websites) that the long anticipated and latest Hezbolla attack / response was a failure.
Careful and objective frame by frame study of the Hezbolla missile attack does not confirm target destruction. Real and armchair experts alike have stated this.
At best the footage shows the detonation of the missiles very close to the target – one if front of the target and one (unclear) to the side and rear.
Critically – perhaps even deliberately so – destruction of the target was not confirmed by Hezbollah in the released footage.
Also, the second missile appears to have been a ‘back up’ attack which would have come only after the first missile had missed or failed to destroy the target.
Speculation is now that Hezbolla actually disabled / destroyed one of the remote control / decoy vehicles, rather than destroyed it.
Speculation also that this was somehow aranged / negotiated to allow all paerties to escape thier boxed in positions and for neither to appear weak – but without risk of a major war escualation event(s).
These things have apparently happened before, and the very unclear footage – which shows nothing other than two missiles exploding at or close to a target and stopping it / disabling it – only adds fuel to the specualtion. Where is the target cam / observer cam footage from that much closer position.
There are many questions that need to be answered.
This new drone footage of Nuttyyahoo may indeed be the real deal as it makes it clear that Hezbolla are letting this go, but next time they wont settle for the show of shoting at a remote control vehicle from 1000’s metres away.
The speculation makes sence, and until Hezbollah / IDF release footage (verified footage) of the aftermath, then I for one will remain sceptical that the recent missile attack on the vehicle was anything other than a carefully arranged ‘get out’ for both sides.
this is the original Hezbollah statement
http://almanar.com.lb/5652484
“At 4.15pm on Sunday, September 1, 2019, a group of martyrs Hassan Zbib and Yasser Daher destroyed an Israeli military vehicle at the road of the Avivim barracks, killing and wounding them”
like you can see in their video, the Wolf vehicle was in movement so no dummies
Skepticism is a virtue, instead negationism at all costs is a sin
Let me be a little clearer –
Firstly, I do not dispute that the attack / responce took place and x2 missiles were fired at a vehicle by Hezbollah.
However, what is not clear is the outcome of the attack.
I (and many other people) set very high standards of evidence and the footage provided by Hezbollah is circumstantial not conclusive. By any reasonable and objective standards the footage released by Hezbollah confirms neither the destruction of the vehicle nor the claimed ‘kills’ – only that a vehicle was shot at and missiles hit / near missed the target.
Cutting the footage short before the smoke clears and clear frames can be analysed only fuels the speculation it was not quite the success Hezbollah had hoped.
By no reasonable objective or legal standards is the footage of this incident clear and transparent. Further clarification (such as additional footage) is required.
As for the vehicle being in motion, the IDF have been using various types of remote control and semi-autonomous vehicles since 2008 (following the 2006 war) and have mastered remote control of all platforms.
Even official sources have realised details of how adavanced (which means non detectable to a casual or distant observer) IDF remote control systems have become.
This link below – which is clear marketing for export of the system – illustrates this:
https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/30260
There is so much propaganda, disinfo, and downright lies coming from every side, that even when the ‘good guys’ claim a success we should look deeper and be mindful that there are several games being played by several national players at the same time. In such times skepticism is indeed a virtue, and even when applied to the ‘good guys’ should not be viewed as negationism.
A remote controlled vehicle travelling down an unprotected and vulnerable road at limited speed does indeed provide a ‘get out’ for all concerned – and is a quick an easy ‘fix’ to appease the masses. In the absence of firm evidence I express ‘reasonable doubt’, however, my opinion will of course change if further evidence / proof of a ‘kill’ is realised.
Finally, the drone footage of Nutty-yahoo just released, plus the statement, is a much more powerful message for those who understand these things.
if it was staged why expose the puppets inside the cars posed like false targets, days before the attack? If it is a failed attack why Hezbollah claim it is accoplished risking to be easily denied and humiliated? Even if that is a farcical orchestrated by the IDF, how this attack can politically benefit Netanyahu? Atm no retaliation so the result is that him appear weak. And again, why minimize instead of emphasize this event by Israeli? I try to follow a logical path
and why, if that was staged, Israeli has not a prearranged, unequivocally and coherent version of facts?
Hhmmm.
I believe Elijah J Magnier has done an excellent analysis.
It’s from yesterday.
Oh, btw.
He has highly-placed sources.
He lives in the area too.
Here are excerpts:
“Another important issue to point out is the way Hezbollah targeted the Israeli vehicle and left several casualties- as confirmed by Hezbollah sources- or no casualties at all according to Israeli Army propaganda. This act “casualties free” brought out many assumptions by analysts and on social media, many of them fictional….”
“What happened in Avivim on Sunday afternoon is that Hezbollah apparently used the approach the Israelis have used for years in Syria. One laser-guided missile hit the front of the Israeli vehicle. Another, seconds later, burned the military vehicle from behind with the intention to inflict casualties. This is exactly the same tactic Israel uses with Hezbollah weapons and ammunition trucks struck by Israel to prevent human casualties and avoid retaliation. On Sunday afternoon, Hezbollah sent a very strong message to Israel, much stronger than killing two or three soldiers….”
Here is the complete story:
https://ejmagnier.com/2019/09/02/hezbollahs-response-strategy-was-imposed-by-netanyahus-bad-luck/
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Veritas X-,
Thanks for the link. It filled in some gaps and gives support to my suspicions that a bigger game was being played – with one version being played for the popular masses, and another at an entirely different level to those who have fingers on buttons and triggers.
It is good that many other people are seeing this and commenting on this now too – and not celebrating the loss of Human life and beying for more blood (on either side).
I agree re: not celebrating someone’s demise and beying for more blood. May peace reign in this difficult time and difficult region. Why after so much suffering cannot the involved players realize that we are all one on this lonely rock in the cosmos and put their heads together to find solutions to help one another and rise above the morass?
@Ian Franklin
pure hasbara disinfo – all i read is ‘speculation speculation’
and then the burden is on us to provide more info! lol.
fail.nice try but no ice cream 4 you. :D
RATM,
I am not attacking you, but what a waste of an opportunity to add something constructive to the discussion.
I suggest you research what real ‘evidence’ is and just how much is actually required to support a case in a real Court, not the court-of-public-opinion.
What has been presented objectively, is a long range (and cut short) ‘Youtube video’ of x2 missile launchs at an unclear and unidentified moving target. The footgage shows x2 explosions (one apparently a miss in front of the moving target) and another explosion closer to the target whos impact point is also unclear. No follow up footage to show damage / destruction of the target.
The footage is then supplied with a statement that it shows the killing of military personnel.
If such a video and statement were issued by Israel or the US I would question that too.
Also, yes there is much ‘speculation’ in my comments because that is what they are – they are speculative.
I have no idea what the truth is and unless you were at the scene of the incident neither do you – so please do not pretend you know the ‘facts’.
Finaly, as for the ‘hasbara’ side swipe, I hope that was not aimed at me. If so you should be ashamed – there is no disinfo in my comments only legitimate reasonable doubt, yes – some speculation, but more than a few good questions which need to be answered. To those capable of critical thinking and who also require high standards of proof / evidence, It should be clear that I seek only evidence and answers and have no desire to ‘debate’ or otherwise justify my position of healthy scepticism and natural suspicion.
Dreadful PR/analysis capabilities. Bibi is a disposable asset, so with this they give credibility to any false-flag involving Netanyahoo assasination attached to a “iranian proxy action”.
Interesting point.
Many things I don’t understand about Hezbollah’s actions…
From Southfront:
“Experts say that the current Israeli political leadership is intentionally escalating the situation in order to gain the upper hand in the upcoming parliamentary election.”
So if this military escalation is simply orchestrated provocation in order to get Busybody re-elected on 17 September, then why is Hezbollah playing along?
Serbian girl, I have two thoughts here.
1. It may well be that Hezbollah would have concluded that Netanyahu is driving Israel into more defeats that a wiser political opposition might avoid. That’s a possible chess move, who knows ?
2. The Empire is taking advantage of ambiguities, and Hezbollah might have decided it’s time to end that set of deceptions. Pure speculation on my part, of course. This could be a re-think on a global scale, so it includes Trump’s shifting away from military warfare to economic warfare. Or it might be just a regional re-think. Now that Israel’s proxy terrorists are facing a final defeat in Syria, Israel is clearly tempted to use its air force to delay reconciliation and economic recovery in the region. So a a partisan electoral gambit might mask a strategic offensive. Also note that if Israel doesn’t pay a high price for its bombings (and violations of UNSC Resolution 1701), then it doesn’t matter whether Netanyahu or Ehud Barak is the next prime minister, these bombing would continue.
Because Hezbollah prefers Bibi to the alternative. As do the Russians btw.
Better the devil you know, especially if you have worked all the kinks of how to cooperate when interests are shared.
Not so much. An assassination of an Israeli PM, or any high government/military official would be a propaganda disaster for Israel. Sure, Israel could easily make do without Netanyahu. But it can’t live in world if there is a perception that it’s most protected officials are not safe from their enemies. Blaming it on Iran means they would be obligated to go to war with Iran.
So if the photo is real, it serves as a very frightening warning for Israel…namely that they had better put aside any thoughts of assassinating Hizbullah officers.
Of curse they dont need to kill him, it well could be just an “attemp of”. My point is that they give a credibility pass (a blank check) to the freaking masters of false-flags, and that is a big mistake in my opinion. And of course they want war with Iran, but they want it on their terms and they also want others to spill their blood and for that, they cant be “the agressors”.
1) For many years Israeli military have been killing Hezbollah leadership; perhaps this is Hezbollah saying “we have that ability as well?”
2) I believe it was Otto von Bismarck who once said words to the effects of “If you enemy is destroying himself, why stop him?”
Expanding on point 2 further, I think this is a “win-win” strategic move by Hezbollah for many reasons:
*The slim chance the Israeli public votes in a “peacenik” Prime Minister out of disgust of more violence
*Possibility of galvaning the “B Team” into consolidating their power, thus continuing their disastrous policies that erode the internal strength of USA, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Israel, & UK (yes, Boris starts with B, and can therefore be included as B Team! :) )
*If Israel launches a new war on Lebanon then any attack on Israel during wartime helps Hezbollah by sowing chaos. Furthermore, if Israel escalates & declares war on Iran, this could eventually inspire all Shias to overthrow their pro-USA governments, and march on Mecca, Medina, & Jerusalem.
Points for dramatic style, but the threat is pretty minor.
Unless they somehow can get a Hellfire or 20mm cannon mounted to a drone, I would bet that glass is impervious.
Perhaps, but he’s going to step outside at some point. The mere fact that they can follow him and know his whereabouts puts him in danger.
Now it is possible the photo is a fake. But if it is real, then so is the danger.
Oh for sure. There is no absolute defense against assassination. Especially an assassin willing to die in the process.
But I do bet the Israelis take a few more security precautions when in a exposed environment. If they didn’t before this, pretty sure things have tightened up considerably by today.
Again though, points for style and possibly giving Nutty reason to not feel as secure as he might have.
I read an article somewhere (perhaps from this blog’s comment section?) that was written by a retired Israeli General and stated Israelis are fanatically against casualties to the point where a commander fears executing any mission that risks losing a single soldier. If true, this explains many Israeli policies:
*Over reliance on air strikes, and now drones
*Extensive use of stand-off weapons
*Refusal to send infantry into urban areas
If Hizballah actually killed the occupants of an armoured personnel carrier then this explains why Israel claims zero casualties, but Hizballah claims 7+ deaths.
amarynth
The little hasbara exchange above by ian franklin and tiresia branding is called a threadjack. A common guardianista trolling technique.
Just so you know… ;-D
my thoughts exactly
and just this morning i was thinking the hasbara bots gave up
coming to this site, thinking their funding was cut off because of
insufficient results, and baaaam! here they are again….
but noticeably meeker and less enthusiastic
after so many years, i have grown alot and now it feels kind comical
to see them try to push their narrative. i sure can say i am ‘immune’ to their bs
How can they stop? They are paid monopoly money and have jobs to do. What’s a “creative writing major” to do? Dig ditches?
At the ‘hedge, on “Epstein Day” (August 10th), they were absent from the biggest thread in history until the following Monday. During the weekend, so not “working hours”. I suppose somebody pushed a button and “overtime” went into effect thereafter.
Thank You- vot tak.
Yes. I agree.
This same *ian f.* appeared @MoA a few days ago using the same method.
It appears ‘b’ has removed him/his comments:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/syria-coordinated-foreign-airstrike-kills-leaders-of-two-al-qaeda-aligned-groups-.html#comments
Many of the regulars there called him out on his original comment:
— @Posted by: Ian Franklin | Aug 31 2019 23:22 utc | 54 —
Cheers X-
You can call me in any way except “hasbara”. I comment regularly on South Front, so you can easily verify my position. Yesterday the same fake CCTV video’s “hasbara” thesis spread everywhere. This is the only reason I’ve commented here
Regards
Vot & Veritas X-,
Bravo for the “score” — VV: 1, “tag-team troll wrestling”: 0
Did you read the MOA thread? The guy was making a completely different argument from here (from what I could see, his comments were deleted). Interesting view of tactics, maybe.
Keep in mind that there are so many people in the States with completely worthless “liberal arts” degrees, and there are not many jobs for functionally literate people, other than stirring up sh1te on “comments sections”.
Empathy for sad souls is required. What a sad, miserable mission.
Liberal arts degrees were not always considered worthless. Back in the day (the 70s) corporations actually believed in on-the-job training and offering real entry level positions with upward mobility. They would ask for hard working intelligent people with good communication skills and train them to do what they needed.
You’re right, I was overly harsh. Even a single great class in four years is more than “worthless”. I think it’s very hard for people with LA degrees to get jobs outside of Academia itself (a very weird rat race at best) and quasi-(?)Spookdom. I suspect many people are two or less degrees of separation (or a paycheck away) from this kind of (troll) work, just to keep a roof overhead, lights on, debt paid, etc.
If this is true. Why the hell didn’t they do the world a great favor and just kill that bastard. LOL. Sigh. Then again scaring nutjobyahoo might be better. Who knows what clown the Israelis will put in charge next.
C’mon Hizbollah! If you are that close why not just pull the trigger…
It’s photoshoped.
https://www.facebook.com/185343588755360/posts/419331565356560/?app=fbl
And a terrible job at that. Can’t believe people buy this stuff…