It was quite a day today, and something tells me that tomorrow won’t be boring either.
I will be able to get to my keyboard tomorrow late morning (EST).
Until then, I leave you with an open thread.
Not just to vent or post “stream of consciousness” kind of posts.
Please try to limit comments to NEWS FROM THE LDNR and MAJOR POLITICAL DEVELOPMENTS.
Thank you,
Andrei
Chemical attack! That is what ‘muricans are planning now.
When you cannot find anyone stupid enough in Ukraine to attack Donbass, let’s start shit by staging chemical attack, just like “serbians” attacked and killed civilians in Sarajevo. Splendid idea! This can be done by some lunatics from Azov battalion.
After all, since ‘muricans cannot force anyone to die freewill, let them die w/o freewill. Results are the same. They will blame Russia and that will prove them right in their claims.
The problem is that no big cities on ukrainian sides are close enough for such a plan to happen. Maybe they will use some village as a guinea pig?
CBS news tonight said that the attack on the kindergarten in Lugansk was done by separatists. Boris Johnson said it was a false flag operation.
RT had a headline that Russia said the if their security demands weren’t met, they MAY respond with military technical measures. What Russia actually said was if their security demands weren’t met, they WILL be forced to respond including through the implementation of measures of a military-technical nature.
Nothing of that is worth “russian invasion” west is hoping for. As for military-technical measure, we can only wait and see what Russia’s plans are.
No one (on this blog) is saying that Russia should invade Ukraine.
From what I’m reading, the “freedom fighter” positions are 6km from the kindergarten.
There is now some good analysis of the hole, which does not match, from what I read, any sort of mortar attack.
Also. Where is the spent projectile inside the kindergarten?
Lots of questions about how this hole could be “constructed” in a side wall.
My husband also noted that none of the windows in the kindergarten were broken.
I just hope that Russia doesn’t fall for the false flag, but at one point Russia will have to respond, those that ordered and executed the false flag, should be found and spetsznaz dispatched. But there is also the R2P so Russia needs to balance. Would the Ukrainians ever penetrate Russian territory, let them in for 5 10 km, then anihilate them, no quarters, inside undisputable Russian territory. (I’m not a strategy expert, far from that. lol)
US has a pattern of doing things like this over a holiday weekend when few people in the US are paying attention, so a chemical attack this weekend (monday is presidents day holiday in the US) would not be suprising.
South Front informs shelling been going on, presents videos, as of Feb 18…
That is happening all the time. OSCE reports that there were more then 10k of shelling and sniper fires last year. This will not provoke “russia invasion”.
IF South Front’s February 18 article is accurate, things are getting real in Donbass.
Between the South Front report and a video by the Donetsk reporter explaining that a Ukrainian breakthrough would lead to gorilla/urban war where Russia’s hands would be tied, It appears Russia may have no choice but to attack, and soon. The kindergarten bombing provides the false flag necessary to get the American public to rally behind the neocons against the aggressive Putin. Shit.
If the West blames Russia for chemical attack, terrorism inside Russia proper or the like, it is highly likely that the West is ready to do so. In fact, their ideal choice will be Lugansk-Dontsk.
A dying Empire is desperate. And ther is no other live proof than to listen to Blinken at the UNSC.
If the neocons pull off a major false flag attack then it may leave Russia with no option but to retaliate. The Ukraine has committed a large force along the Donbass border. Russia could neutralize it with standoff weapons. Deal with the Ukraine like Russia did with Georgia in 2008.
No matter how Russia reacts she is going to get blamed for it. Since there is no escaping the blame then it may make sense for Russia to go ahead and destroy all of the missile defense bases in the Baltic States and possibly Poland. Go ahead and clear out a buffer zone and get the most benefit out of the blame.
Later on Lavrov could send out cases of aged Vodka to help eased bruised egos.
it won’t be like that.
RF will strike without being tried and reducing or eliminating human casualties, but causing mainly economic damage, for example spontaneous pseudo-random fires of systemic infrastructures
https://sputniknews.com/20220218/biden-to-host-meeting-with-key-allies-on-friday-to-discuss-ukraine-1093129598.html
Biden will have a meeting with many countries friday, regarding Ukraine. Among them, Canada, France, UK, Germany, Italy, Poland, Romania.
A ‘coalition of the demented’!
When I’m critical of the U.S I’m not been critical of it’s people…who have been lied to so often and constantly they don’t know up from down.
The West has perfected brain-washing, so much so that very few people can ever get out of the matrix.
I find Americans creative and honest on the whole and if they can ever get from under the criminals that are killing their society then they have a lot to offer the world, maybe the rest of us should be trying to help Americans see a different way to that steered by their destructive leadeship?
Cookie,
…you are right, but unfortunately the average Americans – as in the famous Pavlov experiment – have become so conditional due to watching too much television soap operas, CNN, ABC … garbage, that many people in other parts of the globe feel sorry for them. Hopefully things will change for the better like we’re seeing the events unfold in Ottawa-Canada…
Thanks Cookie. Agreed. Many are waking up to the reality of US corruption rampant throughout the system.
So what’s Russia’s game plan now? Will they move forward and liberate the Ukraine from the Bandera Nazis? Or continue the pointless discussions with the State Department ad naseum? They literally flew in dozens of C-17’s filled with pallets of missiles into the Ukraine while meeting with Lavrov and Putin. Doesn’t make sense.
1. Minsk appears to be gaining traction despite all the pessimism in the past weeks.
The Italian FM seems to be on-board on Minsk in this presser with Sergey Lavrov.
Note: Lavrov seems a tad impatient at times in this particular presser; reminiscent of a wise and experienced professor schooling his unprepared pupil. The only thing positive going for Signore Di Maio was his mention of Minsk.
https://youtu.be/z2g-46MIb5A
2. Zelensky seems to be climbing down on the Ukraine joining Nato, saying they should have had a referendum on the matter. Trouble is, Nato accession is written into the Ukraine’s constitution (done during Poroshenko’s time) so one wonders if this is not a ploy to shove one up Poroshenko’s behind. At any rate Zelensky’s one very lonely guy up there. ‘Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown’ said the Bard; Zelensky must be praying — to the extent that he prays — that his doesn’t roll off together with the crown should his Western friends decide to change tack.
https://sputniknews.com/20220217/zelensky-ukraine-should-have-held-referendum-on-nato-before-adding-membership-goal-to-constitution-1093106935.html
Ukraine agreed to the Minsk Protocol once and then broke it. Even if they agree to it again, they will break it again
Perhaps. They were emboldened to break Minsk because France and Germany (read, Europe) were offering half-cocked support for the agreements these past seven years. But now both Fr, De (with It in tow, it seems like) are finally really interested in Minsk because they understand that without it there can be no Euro security. None at all. Without Minsk, the Ukraine — and US neocons behind them — can hold them hostage and this tiresome and dangerous game, played in Europe, will recur. And Russia may not be so accommodating in the future.
Spot on. Goes to show how inept and utterly incompetent and dumb today’s “modern” Western governments and their diplomatic staff are!
With enough thinking they could have realized that many years ago.
One of the many areas where Merkel was only focused on keeping the status quo without taking any decision whatsoever.
Most overrated German politician of all time.
I just saw an interview with Zelensky on the Guardian where he was explicitly asked whether he was willing to drop NATO admission. He gave a rambling one minute answer which said absolutely nothing but “it ain’t about NATO, it’s about the people” – whatever the hell that means. In other words, he refused to answer. The guy is a clown and whatever he says is utterly irrelevant to anything going on.
Not to mention that any “referendum” could be manipulated all sorts of ways. Would he allow eastern Ukraine to be part of it? Supposedly the referendum would also be about implementing Minsk. We know he can’t do that at all without ending up in jail or dead. The US simply won’t allow it.
So I agree, there’s zero chance Ukraine gives up NATO admission. And all the “assurances” Biden and others in NATO give about Ukraine not joining for “ten years” have been dismissed by Russia. They want a legally binding guarantee that Ukraine and Georgia will not join. And that I don’t see them ever getting.
What does “legally binding” mean in a “rules based” global order. The US makes the rules and changes them at will.
It’s ultimately all about narratives and Putin has played an excellent “game” in this regard, constantly destroying the Western narrative, regardless of source, through fact.
The Duma decision on recognition of independence for Lugansk and Donetsk is an unambiguous instruction to Putin by the elected representatives of 78% of the Russian people, to stop posturing and maneuvering diplomatically and act decisively to bring things to a head, once and for all. Put simply Russians are tired of the BS.
Putin’s approach this far should not be discarded though. He is talking about genocide in the breakaway regions which opens the road to discarding diplomacy for action. He has been talking about compliance with the Minsk agreements by Ukraine and Russian insistence on Security Guarantees shows an “open” request is useless.
Putin owes the people a response without reneging on the Minsk agreements without legal/valid cause.
If I were Putin I would demand and send an ultimatum to Ukraine:
1) a clear written plan for implementing the Minsk agreements by Ukraine with defined dates for compliance, within 7 days;
2) in the absence of provision of such a plan or compliance with stated dates, Russia will withdraw from the Minsk agreements and recognize Donetsk and Lugansk as independent republics.
The Russian position is extremely strong, diplomatically and militarily. I really hope they don’t take their eye off the ball and drop it now.
There’s just 1 tiny problem though: Russia is not a party to Minsk in anyway, not even as a guarantor. You can’t withdraw from a treaty you never signed into.
Indeed but it was a contributor to negotiating the agreements together with partners from the international community?
Like these partners it unambiguously supports the agreements as a map to addressing issues in Ukraine and constantly refers to Ukrainian non-performance as reason and cause for continuing hostilities?
Thus regardless of zero obligations for Russia, contained in the agreements, it can’t just walk away without attracting valid negative criticism?
So the only problem is – a weak agreement when it comes to enforcement due to no terms (definitive time scales) for performance or consequences for failure to perform.
In law, in such a case, you have to put your opponent on terms (7 days) and unambiguously state the consequence for non-compliance. You essentially have to correct the agreements’ shortcomings in a legally recognized and morally acceptable way.
Putin also has such option: defeat all Ukrainian control points with high-precision missiles without crossing the Ukrainian border and without declaring a war.
Hal Turner (a noted and famous American conservative talk-show host) is claiming that the “war” in the Ukraine has already broken out. And that Americans are being told to hoard food and supplies in anticipation of an EMP attack. I don’t believe it. Anyone else have any info on this?
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-explodes-into-battle-both-sides-engaging
He is also saying that two nuclear explosions has occurred.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/dashcam-video-claims-to-show-tactical-nuke-detonation-in-ukraine
I don’t believe that anything like this is going on. However, I am not going to discount it immediately. I anticipate that American and Ukrainian forces want to stage a war and will make it happen one way or the other. They WANT and NEED a war. And you all must realize that this is not an obscure blogger. This guy has a large following who listens to his radio show.
Can anyone provide any more information?
The two explosions seems rather thermobaric.
I just checked Southfront News
Ukraine has upped it’s shelling to 2014/2015 levels
The village of Shakhty Izotov hit by 300 shells
Village of Alexandrovka near Donetsk was ordered evacuated
Tanks and heavy artillery attempting breakout in Nikolaevka
Mobile networks down in front line areas at 1am
Oh, crumb……
Blessings
L
Yes, I can.
Hal Turner is insane. Yes, he has a large following. There are a lot of insane people in America. Hence, the current situation.
Come on man, the nuke thing should be a tip off that Turner is out of his mind. At the level of histrionics we are witnessing from the media, do you believe for one nanosecond that if nukes were used in the theater we wouldn’t have it flashing as a headline on every news agency in the world? Oh wait, no…because if nukes were used, it is WWIII, and we’d all be dead before we even read about it.
Be careful at Turner’s site.
At the bottom of Turner’s pages is a comment in a colored box stating his site is a “100% Trusted Informational Platform Website” In this box is the name SUR.LY .
A whois search for SUR.LY returns that it is registered at the Libyan Spider Network. The Registrant is SURLY, Mitinskaya dom 18, Moscow, Moscow, RU.
When you go to the SUR.LY website and click on features you will learn that it is basically tracking ware, spyware and site visitor high-jacking software.
When you go to the contact page it notes that the company’s address is 808 SW 15th Ave, Portland, OR 97205. A search of this address shows it is basically a medical facility largely for gynecology and such type practices. The phone number given is 1 302 261 9884 . This number, a landline, resolves to Bear, Delaware, 19701.
Turner trades heavily on the line that he worked for the FBI counter terrorism task force. This is bullshit as shown in the FBI records produced at his show trial where it records that he was nothing more than an ‘informer’, snitch. After you have listened to him a bit it becomes clear that the Gov is picking up his meal ticket.
Its critical Russia and free US Military forces now move to deal with the globalists trying to start WW3 over Ukraine.
Those globalist elites based in the EU need to placed in custody as soon as possible and all their assets seized and redistributed to those it have been plundered from for the past century at least.
It will mean going to into Switzerland where a lot of it is hidden in underground vaults and bunkers tunneled into the mountains there. That should have happened after WW2 but corrupt forces in US & UK would not do so.
And arrest their minons like Macron, BoJo, Biden, Trudeau etc…
Also most of the ordinary people in EU, UK US etc are also not buying the news narrative being peddled here over Russia wanting to attack Ukraine, so in the end their game plan will fail.
An uprising will ensue as part of the fallout.
I do feel for average Ukrainian Nationals of any ethnic background, it’s a fucken shit deal they been played… As an Australian vassal (decades outspoken critic of the predatory US military damage we are complicit accessories in), I ponder how it must be .. (the equvilant of pushing us to hate say… Kiwis for eg and make war on them or maybe Indonesia is better eg being so much larger population?).. Why would I..?.. I would despise US even more… And be even more compelled to 4each out to my kiwi or Indonesian neighbors and brothers.. At risk of treason in state of war..?.. Gee.. A Ukrainians lot.. 😕🙄
Anyone noticed that at the ‘kindergarden shelling’ the windows are still in, given the size of the hole in the wall they would have been blasted to bits by the shockwave..
No scorchmarks, no damage to the walls of the inside of the building and the little wooden cabinet right underneath the impact somehow magically survived it all..
Looks very unlikely
There should be a ‘chlorine canister’ sticking out of the hole to give the picture legitimacy.
Yeah, it looks like a controlled demolition with a charge placed outside the wall that just barely pushed the bricks inside. Not creating a real shock wave. If at least some windows were not hard-closed, or the place was big enough with interior doos opened, the shockwave would not have enough force to break windows.
That said, to my non-exprt eyes, that could also be an effect of an WWII-style RPG round. Possibly an RPG-7. You would not see any marks as the wall was covered in insulation that was thrown off from the wall. In any case, that was no mine or a even a straying RPG round when looking at the angle. The projectile would had to hit the wall almost perpendicular which is impossible from bombardment but is consistent with an RPG round still under power.
Also, the insulation looks like mineral wool. That does not burn, explaining no burn marks/no fire.
The Russian media should publish the same headline every day like the Western MSM.
Like:
THE UNITED STATES IS PLANNING TO INVADE CANADA FOR SURE!
Unidentified insider sources in the State Department and White House have affirmed that US troops are posed on the Canadian border and throughout the United States and “maybe” “possibly” “might” launch an invasion of Canada Sunday Feb 19th to rescue the besieged Canadian PM Justin Trudeau from sure death at the hands of insurgent Canadian Truckers hiding behind fortresses constructed with high-tech “Bouncy Castles”.
…developing story!
Somebody already made a movie about that; “Canadian Bacon.”
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/
but… Oh my God!
is this serious?
Poor Turd…eau
This is the best!!! Made my day
Surprising turn in Euro parliament.
Pravda.ru has an interesting report on a Latvian MEP’s speech:
‘The speech by the representative of Latvia, Tatyana Zhdanok, came as an unpleasant surprise for them. Zhdanok expressed her indignation about the fact that it was allowed to voice the slogans of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera from the rostrum of the European Parliament. She also questioned the topic of the discussion — Russia’s military threat to Ukraine — by saying that even Ukrainian politicians start denying this threat.’
https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/150349-european_parliament/
Page has a YT video of the speech.
The latest update from the war zone:
“Battle erupts along Ukraine War Frontline”
In the early morning yesterday, Ukraine forces opened for n many locations along the frontline in LPR and DPR damaging many civilian targets. The LPR and DPR has reported they have attacked in response and now fighting is going on along the whole frontline. My report shows the horrible things that the Ukraine government did to some of the residents of the DPR yesterday 02/17/2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXNdhPoea20&ab_channel=PatrickLancaster
I just hope the schism of the Church in the Ukraine can be healed
I can say one thing for the Russians. They have a lot more patience than Latinos like me. I am hot blooded. My blood boils seeing the Ukronazis bombard the good people of Donbass again. This was Washington’s doing. Washington and London. They set Ukraine on fire and installed a puppet junta in 2014. All the blood spilled since is on their hands.
https://southfront.org/breaking-decisive-night-for-eastern-ukraine-videos-photos/
According to an English news channel in Ukraine it seems there’s a explosion (smoke) rising from the Russian Embassy building in Kiev. Is this true or false?
Paul Craig-Roberts this morning.
”The Minsk Protocol or Minsk Agreement that was fashioned to protect the Donbass Russians while keeping them as part of the Ukraine was a dead letter agreement by January 2015. Yet Putin seems to think that this abandoned agreement is still the solution. It is unclear why Putin thinks that if the same parties sign it again it will not mean any more than before.
Washington has no intention of letting go of this hotspot. The longer it lasts, the more it works against Russia. Not even the withdrawal of Russian soldiers from the area can calm the situation. Washington continues to predict a Russian invasion, and the US Secretary of State is again in the UN as I write making more false charges against Russia. Russia’s insistence that her own security concerns receive attention from the West is portrayed by Secretary of State Blinken as Russian aggression.”
I have to say that I agree with every word. How come when the mass of Russian people want a definitive resolution to the Donbass saga, and ditto the Russian Parliament, and probably the Russian military; how come that the whole farce drags on seemingly endlessly?
Back in 2014 the militias were being starved of ammunition and weapons. Russian officials, however, were stressing their respect of Ukrainian sovereignty, and even granting discounts on gas. But Moscow’s offers were rebuffed by Kiev and the West and Russian authorities finished up in a strategic impasse, the only escape from which would involve political and social changes within Russia itself. Confronting the West required both breaking the political and economic policies and purging the pro-western elite from state leadership.
It seems perfectly clear that the situation will only be resolved by force. The Ukies are not going to let up, they are being pushed into this conflict by outside powers – the Anglo-Zionist war machine. That leaves Putin with two choices. The rest we know.
Yet Putin seems to think that this abandoned agreement is still the solution.
I have a lot of respect for PCR but has he a better alternative to Minsk? With respect, have you? And, you know, sensible people like PCR should get nervous when Putin mentioned ‘war’ to Macron’s face.
Russia is seeking strategic security with the ultimatums, and anything other than Minsk will reduce security not just for Russia but also Europe, and even the world.
Perhaps recognising the LDNR republics as independent states might be a solution but that will also prolong the conflict since the Ukraine is not going to stand for it, and the neocons will be livid; we can expect an escalation of hostilities and with that a higher likelihood of Russia having to be involved directly in the Donbass, something which Russia wishes to avoid.
Russia is sticking to Minsk since it has a UNSC resolution backing it. The three stooges amongst the permanent members of the UNSC — US, UK and France — are going to look downright foolish if they now oppose a resolution they voted for. None of them abstained during the vote to adopt the resolution; it was adopted anonymously. Further, it will expose them as the hypocrites they are if they did. Finally, RF wants to teach the West to keep their word — Putin has been talking about this for years.
Minsk will also ensure an intact and neutral Ukraine, IOW a buffer state — what RF is looking for, since it doesn’t trust the West.
I’ve no doubt Russia can launch a conventional war tomorrow — the military is certainly well prepared even if RF society aren’t — on the Ukraine and win; and it can forcefully annex — that’s the word, annex, because at the last referendum 70% of Donbass voted to stay in the Ukraine — the Donbass and more (areas close to the Belarussian border and Crimea). But that involves fighting — war — doesn’t it? Even if the fighting is limited geographically to the Ukraine, is war the solution? And even if Russia then installs a pro-RF government, will the West let it lie? Of course not. So under these difficult circumstances Minsk appears to be the most ideal solution; it was when it was signed and it still is now. The US knows this of course — and that is why Minsk has lain moribund for seven years — but RF has managed to get the two powers who really matter in Europe, Germany and France, to sit up and take notice of the real threat of war, the only other alternative to Minsk.
A military solution to the problem in the Donbass will result in RF’s hopes for better security go literally up in smoke as will everybody else’s.
Oops…’it was adopted anonymously’ should read, ‘it was adopted unanimously.’ Sorry about that.
I tend to agree with PCR’s take. There is no way in hell Minsk will ever be executed. By continuing to coax the West, Putin’s overtures are simply interpreted as weakness which only gives the signal for these psychopaths to ratchet up more and more. What’s the solution? I’m afraid there isn’t a pretty one. But the sooner Russia backs up the demands made back in December, the sooner Russia will be taken seriously and this will come to a head.
As Lavrov once said, the Americans are not agreement-capable. Agreements are useless pieces of paper. America respects only muscle.
Things are getting serious. Russian military forces will kick off drills including strategic forces (id est with the nuclear capabilities) from tomorrow. https://fr.sputniknews.com/20220218/la-russie-annonce-des-manoeuvres-et-des-tirs-de-ses-forces-strategiques-1055215264.html
The ‘Grom’ exercise involving strategic nuclear forces are actually held annually by Russia. They often test-fire ballistic missiles too, usually in the direction of the Arctic.
I believe they have a notification protocol with Nato, just to ensure nobody gets nervous.
Could be adhere to this. Please try to limit comments to NEWS FROM THE LDNR and MAJOR POLITICAL DEVELOPMENTS.
Talked with the inlaws briefly in Donetsk this morning. They said that the normal everyday gunfire, that has been going on forever, has gotten bigger, as in bigger weapons. Other than that no new news. They are not a poor family like they show on tv all the time. In their words. “situation is normal. No better, no worse”
LPR authorities claim a possible attack towards Horlovka, so to cut the lines between the two larger cities. It is not close to Debaltsevo? Want to test the same trap?
https://sputniknews.com/20220218/live-updates-lugansk-militia-says-ukrainian-sabotage-groups-have-arrived-in-donbass-1093133706.html
Pepe Escobar is reporting that there are three teams of Ukrainian saboteurs already in place to start something.
And that the US news teams are there too – ready to record it all.
Just like the false flag Sarajevo market place bombings. Who can forget those – remember Christiane Amanpour of CNN?
All part of the (predictable) western playbook.
https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1494598267845419034?cxt=HHwWtIC5zZbN8L0pAAAA
And the price of gold is creeping up – its $1894 as I write this.
Its not a huge increase – but the gold price has been so static the last year or so that it may be significant.
I am wondering if all of this war hysteria is nothing more than a giant psyop, has anyone heard of causalities? With all of the artillery, mortars, small arms fire. There should be truckloads from both sides. And that school, does anyone know where it was at, it looks staged and I am not the only one thinking that especially with both sides claiming it. I saw a picture yesterday with a small track-hoe sitting in close proximity.
The seat of the Ukrainian government has moved west to the stone cold Nazi strong hold of Lviv (for protection) leaving the comedian in Kiev to continue to act out his part at playing president for the Russian speaking chunk of Ukraine. The empire is master at controlling the direction of people’s thoughts and actions. And there is no surer way at reaching and directing the very deep emotional thought than through war, threat of war or just wagging the damn dog.
In the meantime the Canadian trucking convoy has been crushed. Durham is still probing, the west is collapsing economically and socially. But our attention is fixated on a war with no causalities, time to step back and think about the larger reality.
In my conversations with family members in the US as recently as yesterday, where I was born and raised, support for war in Ukraine is almost nonexistent. They are not brainless, they have been lied to and know it now and they are well aware of the disaster which just ended called Afghanistan. They point blank don´t believe the administration.
Bottom line is President Biden is skating on very think ice. Don´t get sucked into the very MSM horseshit about how easily malleable a huge portion of the population is for an adminstration, that they absolutely do not like. We are seeing extreme desperation by the ´west´, do not lose you heads.
I think it is going to get very bad but, you ain´t seen nothing yet. After the Olympics are done, it is probably game on. My take.
We were waiting for a big dramatic false flag to take place. Perhaps a mouse roared instead? They may have kept their Feb 16 timetable, but in a small incremental way, almost initially lost in the background noise of constant provocations at the LOC. Hal noted that at 7:30pm US EST, the shelling and mortar fire from Ukies became more widespread and regular. No letup. A creeping slide into “controlled war” rather than risking C&C incineration by Russians. Accompanied by fork-tongued offers of peace at the UNSC. Even with CGI and [Canadian-studio?] production like that staged Kindergarten mortar attack, Russians will eventually be forced to act. But on their timetable and terms.
In both world wars there were long “quiet” periods between the major battles and events. This appears one such, vainly being filled with UKUS media hysteria.
The reality is told in the meetings taking place – Shoigu in Syria on 15th, Bolsonaro in Moscow on 16th, Munich Security Conference gathering of orcs today, Lavrov in Syria on 21st… The die is not yet cast. First, a military-technical nudge is to be unveiled after the end of the Olympics on the 20th. The Eastern Med, Syria-Lebanon and Yemen are heating up. An opposing creeping eye for an eye is being painfully applied where it counts.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article215738.html
https://www.voltairenet.org/article215737.html
Yes, Very sober view.
I would recall that the sages of strategy Master Sun Tsu, L. Harte, v. Clausewitz and so on, and even the biblical strategists, tend to advise that a fundamental strategic method is the indirect strategy. The Strategic goal of zone A would logically be to divide Heartland, divide the Earth Island, NS2 and the Med and especially Germany and so forth being the target. Salamis, if we know the battle, was an indirect (betrayal, deception, intrigues) that functioned as the indirect in a campaign…which destroyed the Persian logistics, and thus ruined their Campaign, even as Xerxes hizzownself watched from a hill.
In this affair today, the target is not 404, the prize is a suzerain Western Europe as a base and slave.
Given the rapid decay of basic ability in zone A, industrial capacity and resource (see my past post at newsfeed, capacity is 68% of necessary, failing grade) and the collapse of the credibility of the ruling junta domestically, this rodeo looks like a “hail Mary”…
I note that one way or another every war stems from domestic forces. MacBeth comes to mind, except Mac was not a coward…these fellas are.
Is Kiev emptying out in preparation for a false flag there to justify a Donbass extirpation?
catching a few moments of Anthony Lloyd at Munich Security Conference via al jazeera….kinda revealing of USA intentions…how it is all being organised..coordinated…supply lines..financial support..250 Abrams tanks being sold to Poland….anyone able to read more completely between the lines over the next two days to make an assessment…see how it meshes with Nato Defence Ministers Conference which finished yesterday…..any possible developments at UNSC during this months chairmanship by Russia…..later EU Council and OSCE meetings ???
Is there a total united front between all these parties….or a chance say at OSCE that that might in the end recognise the actions of Ukraine if it has any sense of remaining values to keep its existence ?
According to LPR authorities, the Ukies tried to blow a chemical plant near Horlovka, where a sabotage group has been previously spotted. But I wonder why there are still such industries near the front, they should have moved these facilities way behind in the past years.
https://sputniknews.com/20220218/live-updates-lugansk-militia-says-ukrainian-sabotage-groups-have-arrived-in-donbass-1093133706.html#
“The Ministry of State Security of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said that Ukraine’s attempt to organise sabotage at the Stirol chemical plant in Horlivka was prevented, adding that one security guard was injured.”
Very interesting opinions as usual in this channel, I mean vineyard :-)
I wanted to share with the German speaking fraction a video of Dr. Daniele Ganser. He is a swiss historian who has been publicly diffamated as a conspiracy theorist on Swiss TV for stating that WTC 7 was not hit by any airplane and the cause of its demolition should be investigates. Likewise, he has denounce several times that the Yugoslavia NATO Attack was an aggression against a sovereign nation and based on lies. He now has let out a video giving the reasons why the Ukraine should not enter NATO.
I leave it here to enjoy for those who can understand it. It is also possible to choose the translation of subtitles as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qowsHwEBjoA
Vercia V.
When i clicked on this link, a video appeared by Mirko Drotschmann describing “how a war would be like between the Ukraine and Russia”
On the one hand he gives a clear, structured presentation, which helps the viewer to get the basic background….
But…His perspective is the usual western MSM stuff that Russia “invaded and annexed the Crimea and the Donbass illegally” and that the Russian activities against Georgia and Ossetia were criminal.
He also implies that it is a war between Russia and the Ukraine where NATO is the guarantor of Ukraines sovereignty.
So the viewer receives a very distorted sense of the Reality.
Nothing to enjoy there…
From TASS
Kiev troops violated ceasefire 29 times in past 24 hours
I have seen only one report of a civilian that was injured – shrapnel injury but fine and being cared for.
This is all now probing the grounds for the opportunity of a false flag. But, I believe yesterday in the UNSC much was revealed, even also those who prepare false flags revealed themselves.
Russia is using ‘Heavy Metal’ diplomacy, but as of this moment, not backing down an inch from their security requirements and from the Minsk package of measures. And they are keeping the pressure on with more games (nuclear triad which is not a new thing but an annual thing as I understand it), tomorrow, and it seems as if Syria is now entering the stage of rebuilding properly, both their institutions and their economy.
It would be good to read Maria Zakharova’s last presser, especially about the Minsk package. It makes more sense if one understands that this agreement was initially to keep the country, the Ukraine, together. https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1798918/
If Minsk goes, the country falls with all that that entails. If there is a question on the results of that, just take a look at Afghanistan, at Syria all these years, at Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, at the other countries in travail. Take a look also at Yemen. That is what it means. It is in Russia’s best interest to keep this country together by hook or by crook, unless there are other countries that will pick up the scattered pieces. So, if the Ukraine has to be broken up, it must be by controlled demolition. I believe the Russians understand this very well. The Chinese understand it as well as they say they are in their area in the same position where the insane wants to create chaos.
Those that advocate for war are misjudging and just simply wrong. Let me remind you that if Russia lets go of one of those fancy missiles, even the granny walking down the street will not be spared. These weapons do not distinguish between the good granny, or the bad Ukie nazi. Go and take a look at Martyanov’s descriptions.
This is the first real skirmish of the move to multipolarity, or pluripolarity as it is commonly called in the Latin Americas, in our world.
I totally agree. War would be the absolute worst way for this to end. However I think that Putin, and Russia, well versed in strategy and risk, have seen that in this game, war is pretty much inevitable, as the west has lost its ability to respond to anything else and have come into this ring for no other reason than to start a fight—the goal of the opposing team is nothing but all out war—even some of their players are hiding out on the other team’s bleachers pushing for war from behind. The goal is the fallout from an all-in (nuclear or otherwise) WWIII: the destabilizing effect of war and the opportunity to swoop in and collect the spoils from the most powerful forces; the US, Russia, and Israel. This is being orchestrated and financed by people who feel safe and protected from Nuclear war in their isolated bunkers located all around the world. They don’t care for any country nor for the citizens of those countries. Most of Russia doesn’t want war and most of the US — even many in the US government don’t want a war. The difference is the US government is at the mercy of the aforementioned warmongers who control the media and Washington, who hate the rest of the US, as well as Russia and others.
RT
Breakaway Ukrainian region orders evacuation
https://www.rt.com/russia/549874-breakaway-ukrainian-region-evacuation/
Civilians must flee from rebel-held Donetsk region to Russia, its head says
Breakaway Ukrainian region orders evacuation
Civilians must flee from rebel-held Donetsk region to Russia, its head says
https://www.rt.com/russia/549874-breakaway-ukrainian-region-evacuation/
RT (18 Feb, 2022 13:24)
“Breakaway Ukrainian region orders evacuation — Civilians must flee from rebel-held Donetsk region to Russia, its head says”
https://www.rt.com/russia/549874-breakaway-ukrainian-region-evacuation/
Head of self-proclaimed Lugansk Republic has also urged residents to leave (https://t.me/rtnews/20537) to Russia as soon as possible.
And also (this is all from RT quick news on their telegram channel)
Rostov region ready to receive (https://t.me/rtnews/20542) DPR & LPR refugees
“Rostov region has sufficient experience to accept refugees from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, and they will be provided with everything they need.”
– Viktor Vodolatsky, first deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Eurasian Integration and Relations with Compatriots. (TASS)
I’ve posted this link from ZH comments section — but not yet showing.
Worth reviewing if not already known.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarQs__
They are now evacuating women, children and elderly from Donbass:
https://www.rt.com/russia/549874-breakaway-ukrainian-region-evacuation/
Ukrainian army bombards Lugansk Republic from large-caliber guns. The information on those wounded and damaged facilities is being specified:
https://tass.com/defense/1406017
Salutations! There is a weird reoccurring theme lately whereby all these western emissaries are making trips to the Kremlin. I get it, diplomacy and all but I m seeing something else.
1. The behaviour is akin to going to pay respect to a king, pope or a cosa nostra godfather. This leads to the question (or realization); does this mean that despite the Putin-hate, these people actually fear and respect VVP and due to their quisling nature cannot help but travel to pay homage to him due to their nature and practice?
2. The term diplomacy is all of a sudden in the mouth of the Democratic West a lot lately. Its as if they are now just trying to make use of the Russian effort for the past 8 years. You can tell it doesn’t sit well since everyone worldwide knows their lies all too well, but it still begs the question – is it to accomplish appeasement to Grandmaster VVP as a sign of overdue recognition of his transcendant superiority over them all Or are they really vying for diplomacy.
3. If indeed it is diplomacy then of what kind. The West is on it’s last breathe, you would think that they would be trying to negotiate a soft landing for the shortest lifespan Empire of our times, yet they seem to be doing the opposite. So are they all making pilgrimages to the Kremlin to coax him into a War whilst publicly claiming to deescalate the situation. Why are they all going up there. I personally fear for his safety and sanity because these ‘people’ are not of sane or humankind mind and they may affect him or those are around him with their sickness.
4. Or are there actually varying degrees to this new phenomenon. I mean judging from the recent Macron + Scholz performance, disgusting waste of opportunity if you ask me, Why entertain them. No one is respecting Russia’s redlines, request for indivisible security and NATO’s walk back to 1997 configuration Yet they still all congregate at the Kremlin as if its the new get together joint, what does it all mean? And its still continuing Bolsonaro, next will hear Bojo or Turan Sultan wanting wanting to make there way up there. How is Russia supposed to turn East if every other week there are Western ‘partners’ at Russia’s head crib. What do they want. Something else is afoot. Let’s wait I m sure it will be revealed soon.
Cheers.
Please stop this promotion of this Ukrainian website. Mod.
It appears that Russia is bringing in the hard hitting EW equipment…….
https://avia-pro.net/news/rossiya-razvernula-vblizi-ukrainskih-granic-kompleksy-reb-krasuha-2-i-krasuha-4
Should Russia’s goal in all this be to humiliate the US, it should:
– drive the US (and Turkey) out of Syria and Iraq;
– together with China, push the Emirates and Saudis out of Yemen including Socotra;
– push the US out of Guantanamo Bay;
– finally with China, push the Brits out of the Malvinas (Falklands), expelling the inhabitants.
There is more shelling now.
Russia alarmed by reports of intensive shelling in Donbass, Lavrov says
https://tass.com/world/1406013
Ukrainian army bombards Lugansk Republic from large-caliber guns
https://tass.com/defense/1406017
It looks like the end game could very well be Ukrainian “suicide by Russia”.
Would this be happening if the Donbass had been made part of Russia? Clinging to the idea that somehow the Minsk Accords will be a solution in this situation is delusional. The US is hellbent on starting a war and that has been obvious for a very long time.
I recall Putin saying that when a fight is inevitable, then it is time to hit first. He also has described what the UAF has been doing to the Donbass — for the last eight years — as genocide. As they say here, it is time to put your money where your mouth is. Diplomacy does not work with non-agreement-capable psychotic killers.
I fail to understand how people continue to watch the hands and not the mind. This is a long game and it will come to it’s conclusion here in due time. One need not act immediately, nor rashly to every provocation and, unfortunately, this necessarily means that some will be sacrificed for the greater, long-term good. I wouldn’t want to be the one making those decisions–thankfully VVP can handle that. Remember that miscalculation here can spiral into nuclear war. So all the armchair generals acting from a deficit of information cannot possibly appreciate the stakes here, nor conceive of what the correct move is.
What we can deduce is panic and hysteria within the Empire. We can further conclude from this that the Russian long-term strategy is having an effect. And, as for Minsk, I’m of the opinion that the only reason this continues to be brought up isn’t so much that there is deep hope on the Russian side that this will be implemented, but rather to further, and very publicly (for history’s sake), make the case of one side being non-agreement capable. I very much doubt anyone in Russian leadership operates under the delusion that Ukraine and it’s masters will suddenly decide to abide by international law.
This situation is coming to a head here, and I think however Russia decides to settle matters is going to come as a surprise to all parties. And when it is all said and done, there is a clear paper trail now of who did not abide by international law, who caused the crisis, and who is responsible. And thus, when we have Nuremberg 2.0, the responsible parties will be held accountable. Patience people….
Finally, with this speech, the Kremlin rejects its position as guarantor and, as the West encourages it, positions itself as a “party”, which has legal obligations arising from these Agreements. Besides the fact that the recognition of the independence by Russia of the Donbass does not entail a legal violation of the Minsk Agreements (see our text here), it would seem above all that Russia does not want to take the risk of assuming its political obligations.
The way in which the question of recognizing the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk is unfolding for the moment is a political disaster, for Russia as much as for the Kremlin. Openly, the Kremlin declares that it has no political will to recognize the independence of these entities, its “humanitarian” approach being limited to indirect aid, while acknowledging the issue of genocide. This objectively amoral position, in the sense that it denies all morality, risks not strengthening the legitimacy of the President, already much criticized internally for his globalized covid management and digital fanaticism. At least until then, the presidential figure benefited from the aura of the Munich speech and the attachment of Crimea, which politically made it possible to compensate for his neoliberal domestic policy. If this barrier, already shaky, falls, the risks of internal discontent will increase.
https://russiepolitics.blogspot.com/2022/02/independance-du-donbass-hesitation-du.html
Yes. We have definitive intel on a Russian false flag operation.
We just don’t know the where or the when.
Nor the type of provocation (graveyards, drones, terrorist bombing, chemical, cyber).
For the rest we have all the details, giving us great confidence in our prophecies.
At least, that’s how we would go about it…
News Front:
Ukrainian armed formations fired nearly 70 mines and shells into the territory of the Donetsk People’s Republic over the morning, the republic’s representation to the JCCC said. “From 5:30 to 9:00 a.m. on February 18, shelling by Ukrainian armed formations was recorded in the direction of Novolaspa, Horlivka, Dzerzhinskoye, Dolomitne and Verhnetoytske settlements. A total of 68 mines and shells of 122 and 120 mm calibre were fired”, – a department representative said. Earlier, the mayor of Horlivka appealed to the residents of the villages of Krasnye Partizan, Panteleimonovka to move away from windows, recharge their communication equipment and fill up with water.
Ukrainian shell breaks railway track from Donetsk to Russia during shelling in Donetsk region. Semyon Pegov, a military correspondent, told about it. According to him, it happened in the morning, around 08:30. “Most likely barrel artillery,” the war correspondent believes.
At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces shelled the Donetsk-Gorlovka highway near Panteleimonovka. The highway was temporarily closed. Now, according to media reports, the Gorlovka-Donetsk highway has already been unblocked.
“At the moment of the explosion several cars were passing by civilians, they were hit by shrapnel. But people are experienced in the republic, they live under shelling regularly – no one slowed down. There were about ten arrivals in total”, – Pegov said.
Earlier it was reported that in a few hours the VFU fired almost 70 mines and shells at the territory of the DPR. The VFU also shelled the territory of the LNR 29 times in a day
https://dan-news.info/en/politics/ukrainian-aggression-prompts-civilians-evacuation-from-dpr-to-russia—pushilin/
DPR has announced evacuation of civilians, first of all women, children and elderly citizens to the Russia Federation.
“From today, February 18, a mass centralized departure of the population to the Russian Federation has been organized. First of all, women, children and the elderly are subject to evacuation”, Pushilin said in his statement.
He said that the agreement has been reached with Russian authorities to organize dwellings and organized crossing of the border for the evacuated people.
“Donbas Separatists Announce Mass Evacuation To Russia; Putin Sees “Situation Deteriorating””
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-tumble-after-donbas-separatists-announce-evacuation-women-children-russia
Includes English translation of letter by Denis Pushilin, Head of the Donetsk People’s Republic
https://denis-pushilin.ru/news/ekstrennoe-obrashhenie-glavy-dnr-denisa-pushilina-v-svyazi-s-rezkim-obostreniem-voennoj-situatsii/
Ethnic cleansing in Donbass: Kiev prepares republics for ‘Croatian storm’. Military and political expert Boris Rozhin predicts an escalation of the conflict on the territory of the LDPR by the hands of Ukrainian fighters. Kiev, under information cover, has planned a full-scale provocation on the territory of Donbass in order to hold the Russian side responsible for the crimes of the AFU, making the Kremlin look like the aggressor. The Kiev authorities were encouraged by the effectiveness of Operation Storm.
During Operation Storm, 230,000-250,000 Serbs fled the territory of Serbian Krajina, and Croatian soldiers committed numerous war crimes against convoys of refugees and the remaining civilians, including the Dvor massacre and the massacre in Grubori. The ethnic cleansing of Serbs dates back to 1995 and appears to be an exemplary solution to the Ukrainian crisis for the authorities in Kiev.
The Ukrainian authorities intend to repeat the “Serbian scenario” in the territory of Donbass in order to expel citizens of the self-proclaimed republics from their homeland at gunpoint and take control of the region. The military crimes, which are the norm for the Ukrainian security forces, the top leadership of Ukraine intends to shift to the “Russian aggressors”, while implementing geopolitical goals to please Western supervisors.
Earlier, News Front reported about the statement of Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko about the concentration of Ukrainian troops on the border with the republic
From the comments on the ZH links just posted.
Images of busses & ATM queues.
Up to date (now)
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarQs__
Lavrov today speaking to rt
There is information that militants from Kosovo, Albania, and Bosnia and Herzegovina are being recruited to knock Russia off balance, which includes sending them to Donbass [in eastern Ukraine]. We are working to verify it right now.”
My guess is this is Putin’s game plan with regard to Ukraine.
Here’s the situation.
1. Today, both Donetsk and Lugansk have announced they are evacuating the non-combat population (women, children, etc.) to Russia.
2. A few days ago, the Duma (Congress) voted overwhelmingly to recognize Donetsk and Lugansk. This is something Russia did not do a few years ago, instead opting for the Minsk agreement.
3. At this point, the Kremlin has not OKed the vote. Putin is still pressing for Minsk to be implemented.
4. There is no way in hell Minsk will be implemented. Ukraine (and the US behind the scenes) will never concede to allowing any kind of autonomy to Donetsk and Lugansk.
Here’s my conclusion.
With the non-combatants evacuated, Russia would have a free hand to inflict massive damage on Ukrainian troops without killing civilians. If Ukraine continues to not honor Minsk, Russia will simply OK the Duma vote and recognize the two provinces as being independent. At that point, Russia can enter the territories without violating Ukraine sovereignty since they would have been invited by sovereign entities. And without civilians in the way, Russia could unleash powerful weapons that they normally couldn’t because much of the fighting would occur in urban settings.
This is just my speculation. Probably has some holes, but I think it makes sense strategically from Russia’s point of view.
At least Russia should use some of the same tactics as the Americans. For every report of this and that Russia should responded with same. Our intelligence indicated America is going to do this. I know its petty but I’m really curious why it’s not happening. Is tnere. Ore to this than what’s playing out on tv? Meaning is there more to the Russian side? I’m sorry but the Americans it seems should just go ahead and do whatever tney want. But there’s something the sides want they’re not letting the rest of us little people know. A discretion from other things
Lavrov via sputniklivefeed
Lavrov: OSCE Mission Trying to ‘Smooth Out’ Data Indicating That Ukraine Has Violated Ceasefire in Donbass
they are not his favourite cup of tea …last two years he has been justifiably extremely critical trying to make them aware of their responsibilities but seems to come up against a brick wall.
DONETSK, February 18. /TASS/. The People’s Militia (NM) of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) announced on Friday that they had prevented two acts of sabotage at dangerous chemical facilities near the city of Gorlovka, undertaken by sabotage groups that had entered from territory controlled by the Ukrainian side.
The sabotage groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (APU) planned to blow up a tank with chlorine in the territory of a sewage treatment plant near Gorlovka, two people from their composition were killed when they tried to enter the territory of the DPR
Mass evacuation happening already – Interfax and RT
Orphans from Donetsk’s boarding school #1 are the first to be evacuated to Russia
https://t.me/rtnews/20554
Donetsk Evacuation: large vehicle convoy as citizens head en masse towards Russian border
https://t.me/rtnews/20555
DPR and LPR leadership have refused Kiev’s offer to hold an extra session of the Trilateral Contact Group: Russia, Ukraine and the OSCE
Talk is over.
Has Russia been snookered? Is the best they can do to accept ethnic Russian refugees as the Ukraine bombs and invades its own peoples? There is speculation that Russia can and will destroy Ukrainian military positions remotely, but nothing they might do will ever be seen by the West as anything but an invasion and will be inviting heaven knows what in punitive retaliation. Perhaps the best that can be done is to wait until the Ukraine has ‘destroyed the village in order to save it’ and accede to NATO while taking in refugees? Then the battle lines will be exactly defined: here is NATO and here is Russia and it will become obvious who invades whom if and when the real war starts.
Orlov says evacuation is “the only winning move”: https://www.patreon.com/posts/putins-ukrainian-62734734?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=postshare
The rat Zelensky on the one hand says Russia will not invade, and on the other Ukrainian forces bombard the breakaway regions. He must have got the go ahead from somewhere, unless he has become a useless spectator.
Mr Putin & Co now finds that time for talk is over. To their credit they tried, but it seems to me that those in the crazed West have brought the situation where they want it to be.
I really hope Putin has an ace card up his sleeve. In Go there is a strategy called “whole board thinking”, whereby one looks at the bigger picture. We wait to see what happens next.
V Doněcké lidé republiky začala evakuace civilního obyvatelstva. Příčinou je eskalace situace v regionu. Evakuaci potvrzuje zpravodaj agentury Sputnik.
Včera představitelé donbaských lidových republik varovali před eskalací na linii dotyku. Podle nich Kyjev ignoruje všechny předešlé dohody. Přesto na Ukrajině tvrdí, že chtějí problém řešit politicko-diplomatickými prostředky.
Dříve lídr Doněcké lidové republiky (DLR) Denis Pušilin uvedl, že ukrajinský prezident Volodymyr Zelenskyj brzy nařídí Ozbrojeným silám Ukrajiny zahájit ofenzívu v regionu.
link: https://cz.sputniknews.com/20220218/v-dlr-byla-zahajena-evakuace-civilistu-17682126.html
Google translator:
In the Donetsk People’s Republic began the evacuation of the civilian population. The reason is the escalation of the situation in the region. The evacuation is confirmed by the Sputnik newsletter.
Yesterday, representatives of the People’s Republics of Donbao warned against escalating on the line of contact. According to them, Kiev ignores all previous agreements. Nevertheless, they claim in Ukraine that they want to solve the problem by political-diplomatic means.
Former leader of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DLR) Denis Pushilin said that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will soon order the Armed Forces of Ukraine to launch an offensive in the region.
link: https://cz.sputniknews.com/20220218/v-dlr-byla-zahajena-evakuace-civilistu-17682126.html
Major explosion in Donetsk – reports
https://www.rt.com/russia/549901-donetsk-explosion-ukraine/
A massive explosion occurred in Donetsk.
https://www.rt.com/russia/549901-donetsk-explosion-ukraine/
From Sputnik – being updated by their correspondent – powerful explosion rips through Donetsk:
https://sputniknews.com/20220218/powerful-explosion-rips-through-donetsk-sputnik-correspondent-says-1093149084.html
“A powerful explosion rocked central Donetsk on Friday, a Sputnik correspondent has reported. The explosion is said to have occurred several dozen meters from the building housing the republic’s government……”
I know – not an update – but an observation.
If LDNR evacuates everyone into Russia, then Russia can continue to sit back while Ukraine just destroys more of its own infrastructure/buildings. Nobody to protect, no reason to go in. Genius move, really. Like a weird version of Moscow 1812, only instead of burning & retreating, they simply retreat and let the morons advancing take out anything of value that they would be able to use to rebuild.
Does 404 then get into NATO with no longer having any internal dispute? Or does enough of a military presence stay behind, creating a new Transnistria type zone?
V centru Doněcka došlo k výbuchu
17:11 18.02.2022 (aktualizováno: 17:22 18.02.2022)
Výbuch u úřadu vlády v DLR (18. 2. 2022) – Sputnik Česká republika, 1920, 18.02.2022
Podle informací zpravodaje agentury Sputnik k explozi došlo nedaleko úřadu vlády DLR.
Na internetu se objevily fotografie výbuchu. Podle prohlášení v lidové milici DLR došlo k výbuchu automobilu, který stál na parkovišti před úřadem vlády.
link:https://cz.sputniknews.com/20220218/v-centru-donecka-doslo-k-vybuchu-17682888.html
Google translate:
An explosion occurred in the center of Donetsk
17:11 18.02.2022 (updated: 17:22 18.02.2022)
Explosion at the Government Office in the DLR (February 18, 2022) – Sputnik Czech Republic, 1920, February 18, 2022
According to the Sputnik newsletter, the explosion took place near the DLR government office.
Photographs of the explosion have appeared on the Internet. According to a statement in the People’s Militia DLR, a car exploded in a parking lot in front of the government office.
link:https://cz.sputniknews.com/20220218/v-centru-donecka-doslo-k-vybuchu-17682888.html
The administrations of the Rostov cities of Taganrog and Gukovo did not receive information about the imminent arrival of refugees from Donbass or requests to accept them, but they are ready to accommodate people if necessary.
The mayor’s office of Taganrog said that they have not yet received information about the need to accept refugees, but there are accommodation centers in the city and are ready to accept people, “there have already been such situations.”
The head of the civil defense and emergency department in the border town of Gukovo, Nikolai Gorbachev, also told the agency that no information had yet been received about the need to accept refugees from Donbass.
“Temporary accommodation centers are always ready for us. If the situation becomes more complicated, if people go, we will accept everyone. But so far there have been no movements from the other side,” he said.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/822975
The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said that he did not plan an attack on the Donbass
Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny called reports that the Ukrainian army plans to attack areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions not controlled by Kiev as rumors.
“I appeal to the residents of the temporarily occupied territories – do not believe the lies of the occupying authorities! You are being used to escalate the situation (…). The information about sabotage groups from the Joint Forces, who allegedly planned to blow up chlorine at the sewage treatment plant in Gorlovka, does not correspond to reality at all”.
https://www.interfax.ru/world/822980
PS For your information, the levels of combat readiness “Military danger” and “Full” have not yet been removed. But after all, we are having interspecific strategic command and staff maneuvers “Thunder-2022”.
Nursery school in Stanytsia Luhanska hit by grenade
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/17/shelling-by-russian-backed-separatists-hits-school-in-east-ukraine
Luke Harding, Shaun Walker and Emma Graham-Harrison in Kyiv
Thu 17 Feb 2022 13.06 GMT
Russian-backed separatists launched artillery across the line of contact with Ukrainian forces, shelling a nursery school and injuring 3 people.
The attack in the city of Stanytsia Luhanska blew a hole through the wall of the kindergarten at Depovska Street number 21. The school day had just begun when a shell landed on the building.
A second missile left a small crater near the children’s slides in the garden playground.
Ukraine’s foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, said the Russian-backed militants had used a tank in the operation. “These shells came from the territories which are controlled by Russia,” Kuleba said.
“The children were eating breakfast when it hit the gym,” Natalia Slesareva told the news agency AFP.
Slesareva said she was working in the laundry room at the time.
The explosion blew her back against the door, she said, with smoke, dust and broken windows.
The Ukrainian military said “32 shells landed in the city. As a result of the use of heavy artillery weapons by terrorists, shells hit the kindergarten building. Two civilians received shell shock.”
My Comments:
The City of Stanytsia Luhanska is wedged in between the separatist controlling the area to the South west of the city, And the border of Russia, located 6 Km directly to the East.
You can se the location here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Дитячий+садок-ясла+№21+“Казка”/@48.6737814,39.4507708,185m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x411fc7a18c66c05d:0xf1ea9fd1da217ab2!2sDepovska+St,+Stanytsia+Luhanska,+Luhans’ka+oblast,+Ukraine,+93600!3b1!8m2!3d48.6751674!4d39.4470747!3m4!1s0x411fc734dbd80d93:0xf09b5e177811c06e!8m2!3d48.6737278!4d39.4511522
Objektive obsevations:
The kindergarden is placed in the city of Stnytsia Luhanska, a Ukrainian control area.
The Building is hit on the side facing south East.
There is no signs of an explosion. No burn marks. No shattered glass in the entire building.
Even the window right beside the hole in the wall is intact.
There is only masonry debris inside the gym, no burn marks, ceiling and inventory are intact.
There is not found any remains of grenade or shell in or outside the building.
Conclusion:
1. As there is no shell or grenade remains, no burn marks from explosion. No shattered glass. There can be no casualties having received shell shock, as claimed by the Ukrainian Military.
2. As there is no shell or grenade remains, no burn marks from explosion. No shattered glass. It cannot be a shell or a grenade fired from a Tank from the territory of Russia (or any tank at all) as claimed by the Ukrainian military..
3. As a tank cannot be the launch vehicle, and as the Russian border is 6Km from the City, and as the line of attack against the building is directly from South East, the hole in the wall cannot originate from Russian territory, but from Ukrainian controlled territory.
To me it looks like a forklift penetrated the wall from the outside.
Regarding the “missile” hitting the playground.
Objective observation:
There is no crater at the impact. There are no remains of the missile, and there is no evidence of an explosion (burn marks) in the garden.
Conclusion:
There is no evidence of any missile attack.
To me it looks like somebody has dug and cultivated 1 square meter with a spade.
As you will notice, the Guardian article is written to target female emotions (50% of the voters) without technical explanations or evidence to back up the authors claim. This is a classic manipulation tactic used by British media when falls flag attacks is presented to the western population.
The same script was used when Assad was blamed by BBC for using firebombs against a school in Syria.
It is my conviction that the Ukrainian government no longer controls anything in the country, not even the Ukrainian armed forces.
When human beings are corrupt and cowardly, they humbly submit to the dictates of those they consider powerful.
Like Macron and Scholz, who were humiliated by Biden and remain subservient to the overlord.
The CIA and MI6 advisers are commanding the operations to attack Donbass, stuck in their bunker, as they did in Syria, now using the Ukrainian Nazis as they used Daesh.
Donboss has been shelled so badly by Ukrainian US backed military they have sought asylum in RUSSIA. Putin said to accommodate and now has to help his RUSSIAN neighbors. Let’s be clear. RUSSIA has no desire to start a wat. They are not interested I attacking their own people. You would have to be stupid to fall for the big Brandon lie so he can make a power grab and destroy Russian economy.