Dear friends,
It is with some (a lot, really!) trepidation and nervousness that I am announcing to you that my first podcast ever is now available for download and streaming. Please simply to to the following page to access is:
https://sites.google.com/site/sakerpodcast/
There you will be able to download the podcast in mp3 format from Google Drive or download and stream it from Mediafire and 4Shared. The reason why I am not posting the links right here is that I use the download page as a reminder to all that your donations are much needed. But doing that on a separate page I avoid doing that here and cluttering this page with donation requests/reminders. Please let me know if this solution seems reasonable to you.
Also, more than ever before, I invite and request your sincere reaction to this first “test podcast”. It’s length, format, sound quality, etc. In the future what changes would you like to see implemented? I will do my best to adapt to your requests.
One thing that will change for sure is that as soon as the new blog is up I will use a dedicated podcast page rather then the google.sites page I used today.
Okay, now it’s your turn. Listen to the podcast and please let me know what you think. Shall we repeat this or not? And, if yes, how much would you want that? How often would you want to me record such a podcasts?
Many thanks and kind regards,
The Saker
Does anyone else think that Saker sounds like Benjamin Netanyahu?
Nah
LOL 😂
No kidding, Saker does sound like chickenshit Netanyahu.
Just kidding!
Best regards,
Mohamed
Hi Saker
no you do not sound like Nuttyahoo
Yes, you have a deeper voice then I had thought which tells me you are likely a tall person- sturdy build
I did post your podcast at my blog and am enjoying listening at this moment- You are doing terrific for your first attempt
And kudos to you for having the courage to undertake this
I appreciate it greatly, I love podcasts- they enable me to get work done and get informed, so thanks so much Saker :)
Yes, I am still around, quietly reading…
Well done great podcast ….extremely informative and coherent… I don’t believe it is beginners luck …I look forward to listening to future broadcasts
Saker, Your speaking voice is excellent for this media. I hope to hear many more. Well done.
Congrats Saker for your first podcast! Its great! Great voice! Great format! Great content!
Here’s a tale of two elections.
From UkraineWar.info Eric Zuesse notes that the low turnout election in Kiev Juntaland favored the nihilists who can’t wait to initiate the lustration laws.
Ukraine’s Stunning Election Results
And from George Eliason, reporting from Donbass, we have the very high turnout elections in Lugansk and Donetsk where locals are on guard for terror groups from Juntaland trying to disrupt real democracy. Nov 2 Elections in Donetsk and Lugansk- The Game Changer in Donbass
You have disaffected voters in Ukraine proper and engaged voters in Novorussia. That’s a simple message, for those willing to listen.
Hi, Saker! You have a pleasant voice, a very clear and easy to understand voice. I like this format.
Прослушал весь подкаст. Мне понравилось. Звук нормальный. Если тебе самому это нравится делать, думаю, для разнообразия можно делать время от времени. Думаю, раз в месяц будет достаточно.
Одно замечание: чтобы скачать подкаст мне пришлось кликнуть на 4 ссылки:
1) Сначала по ссылке в посте: https://sites.google.com/site/sakerpodcast/
2) Затем на этой странце https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByibNV3SiUoodE4zbmVYd1UwMjg/view?usp=sharing
Там выдало ошибку “Whoops!
There was a problem playing this audio file.” с предложением все же скачать
3) Потом ещё одну страницу, на которой сейчас выдается собщение, что слишком много человек скачало файл: “Sorry, you can’t view or download this file at this time.
Too many users have viewed or downloaded this file recently…”
4) И только на 4-й странице была ссылка на скачивание.
В следующий раз лучше сделать прямую ссылку на mp3-файл в самом посте.
В остальном – формат, звук, содержание – всё нормально.
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P.S. I remember there was a guy with conspiracy theory that Saker is a CIA asset and a female. I guess at least latter is now proven wrong haha :)
Very good!
Great start. You sound like Dimitri Orlov and I like him, too. Keep up the good work, many of us rely on you.
Excellent podcast! Good sound quality and I liked the Q&A format. I hope you’ll continue to produce more of these.
Great! Keep them coming.
Very very good! Very good voice, and no hiccups at all.. Normally when people do podcast the first times they contain a vast number of “eh,um” “eh,”
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Absolutely a double for Ben Net. My son was in the other room, I told him it was Saker’s first podcast and he said it too. “Sounds like Netanyahu.”
Now lets get to the Quality of the sound and mic placement and room ambience. All very good, Saker. Don’t change anything. Volume, nothing. Great start. I used Mediafire streaming. Excellent.
The flow was good. Your style is natural.
Having directed scores of film and tv recording sessions including dubbings, I can tell you this is good stuff, Saker. Your microphone awareness and consistency was very good.
Using questions got you going. And then you dug from your own deep knowledge and clear point of view. It works.
I am glad it was a suggestion I offered for you to do podcasts and write a book. These podcasts will be a good cause for donation support.
I’m off to the Paypal link right now.
Don’t be self-conscious about the voice similarity thing with the Prime Minister. There are 7 billion people on earth. You had to sound like someone else. Your brain and your heart make the difference.
Hi Saker,
I listened to your podcast for ~30 mn and then I tried to click on an ad box which said “remove ad”. As a result I got transferred to another page and when I came back to your page I had to restart the podcast from scratch – I will do that tomorrow. Technical question: is it possible to (re)start an MP3 podcast at a given time (I wouldn’t have minded an overlap of some minutes)?
Overall impression:
Good. Interesting questions. Interesting answers. For people who are not native English speakers, some of the info (like author names, book titles, names of politicians etc) are not always understandable – do you think it would be an idea to produce a (shortened) text version of your answers with the proper names explicitly stated?
I beleive this will be a success.
Cheers
This worked well.
I think Putin and many others in Russia don’t have much stomach for radical change, so they conform to market capitalism.
Aren’t Central Asian countries part of the Russian world despite not being orthodox?
I’m Marxian, but Leninist suppression of religion was stupid. They had to censor marx to get away with shit like that.
Orwell, a socialist, considered that monarchy might maybe be necessary for socialism.
agree, shutting off the gas would just lead to blaming russia for any ukrainian collapse.
‘our language’- I think there’s too much mutual intelligibility between Russian and Ukrainian to consider them separate languages in a strict linguistic sense
thanks.
Google didn’t work for me, but Mediafire worked fine. I think your presentation was very good, but sometimes you speak too fast! I know you are following your thought processes but we have to follow as well, so a l-i-t-t-l-e slower would be nice. Otherwise, AOK as they say!
Jim of Olym
OT, but important.
To bloggers and others:
Old versions of worldpress.com have been hacked, say some European media. Upgrade to the latest version. Number 4, I think.
Wow! What a sound! What a voice!
Since I have not managed to understand all that you say, because I find it difficult to understand spoken English, mainly American English, so quickly spoken,( a pity, because I find very interesting all the answers, ( all that about marxists/leninists….)) it is amazing to hear your voice like if you were in my living room!
Is there any possibility of a transcript?
Hoping to find a way to support you anonymously and safely, thanks a lot for your time and effort.
Good night
I do not know if Saker´s voice sound like Benjamin Netanyahu´s because I am not interested in what this element says at all.
I do not know how his voice sounds neither I want.
Excellent podcast.
Please keep them coming.
Dear Saker
Thanks for the great work! Your voice sounds good and is very easy to understand. Maybe is it possible to write down the book titles and authors in your text, because they are somewhat difficult to understand?
I like the format very much, please more of it. Donation will be made in the next few days.
Excellent first podcast! Congratulations. Tom R.
Great podcast Saker! Please,do more. It was very informative.
Where do I leave a question for the next Podcast?
Excellent job.
Very good voice you have Saker(sexy),you don’t have an american accent,very good English for us European(non english mother language)easy to understand.
Yes please Saker go ahead with a ‘special Ukraine/Russia’.
What do you think of the BRICS alliance the AZ is trying to destroy now by all means?
What do you think about China?Are they reliable partners for RF or could the AZ empire try to ‘buy’ them?
Same question about India.
Which new countries would you like to see in the BRICS?
Do you think the saudis will crash the oil price down to 60 dollars?
What is your opinion about Kolomoyski the nazi-oligarch?This guy for me must pay the ‘highest’ price for what he did to NR.
Which other cities NR should have to become a viable state?(Odessa,Kharkov,Mariupol…??)
I hope Putin will not be killed on his way to Australia for the G20 or for the APEC summit next week in Beijing?
Soros and co are trying to ‘impeach’ Dilma Roussef who was just reelected…that is incredible these peole do not even respect popular elections/votes anymore.
On the Paypal donation form is a little link to click to leave a message as you submit your donation.
Donate and leave a question would be nice thank you, and possible way to submit questions.
Just a thought. I know Saker doesn’t want to charge subscription. But it’s a good way to get your question into the queue for the next podcast.
And a suggestion for those who used Google for listening. Use Mediafire. Google lost their soul ten years ago. You don’t have to download to listen. It streams in your browser. Worked perfectly.
nice podcast. was interesting all hour. I usually only listen to stuff like Coast to Coast or Infowars cause it is free streaming radio and entertaining, sometimes good info too. I don’t even turn on my radio anymore cause here in Austria theres 100% total bullshit in the radio on ANY station.
Babushka in Oz said…Google is refusing access with this message…Sorry, you can’t view or download this file at this time.
Same here in Oz & I’m paranoid so frack Google and hang Eric Schmidt.
Fine first try. You will alter/refine what you think.
I love listening to this! You have a great voice, Saker. I don’t think you sound like Netanyahu at all. (You actually have the same vocal quality as my husband)
I think I hear a slight French accent in your voice.
You also speak the way you write- a comfortable, natural voice. Nothing forced or over-edited.
Another donation from me is on the way.
Listening right now to the part where you’re talking about Solzhenitsyn. I read all three volumes of Gulag a few years ago. It’s one of the best books I’ve ever read. I have it all dog-eared and bookmarked and I often return to it to read the passages again. I highly recommend it to anyone with a keen mind and gentle heart.
Hi Saker
Great podcast. Google didn’t work but Mediafire was okay.
Saker… most Russian men that I know have fantastic singing voices. I suspect that with your resonant baritone voice you too can sing.
So folks do we want music or Saker singing his favourite song?
That was a great podcast. I look forward to more. You don’t need to make any changes. Perfect the first time.
[from Blue]
Maybe can put on youtube also, when google shuts it down (even though youtube is also google — but many videos/audios there are accessed by hundreds of thousands).
Voice — reminds me some of John Robles and Robert McChesney (NPR media matters casts).
As an American with virtually no knowledge of languages besides English, it cracked me up when you talked about a journalist with a funny last name… ‘Putin’ — all Russian and Slavik names — are funny last names for me, and difficult to remember, or even pronounce.
Over all, very good material, worthwhile, and enjoyable to listen to, and there is information and nuance conveyed in speech which is impossible to transmit in writing. I could gladly hear you just ramble on for hours and learn a great deal.
Thank You.
_Blue
I enjoyed your pod cast. You voice is very suitable for this task. You may consider making you pod casts shorter, maybe half an hour long, or do it in segments. Also, please no apologies are necessary for your efforts. Although you did seem a bit tired during the pod cast, yawn.
Regards,
Stan K’
Congratulation!
Dynamic and consistent. Excellent conveyance of information.
From technical prospective volume needs to be increased and file naming scheme should allow for future file naming preferably date based, example:
The Saker Podcast No1 = TSP20141102.
Also Genre, Author, Title, Album should not be blank as they are used in many MP3 players.
Keep up the good work
Good job.
If you do a show on the Ukraine, you might want to discuss the possible goal of the Empire to create a failed state. This might be easier than keeping a Nazi state. It might also help in creating problems for Russia and give a reason for NATO to “fight the radicals” in parts of the Ukraine. Same lie as in Syria and Iraq.
Excellent podcast.
Well done 1st podcast.
No hesitations, in speech flow, good flow, very good job.
Five stars on everything.
As noted; you have an excellent speaking voice.
-Ingrid-
I also listened with great pleasure. Very nice voice, great quality of sound. Not noticeable this was your first postcast. Here and there a little hard to understand.
Mediafire worked perfect for me, I did’nt even try google. One hour is fine, I won’t mind a longer postcast.
Donation follows next week.
Larchmonter, great idea to combine donations and questions.
I couldn’t access it. Did that happen to anyone else? Some message from google– too many viewers or something.
Good European voice. Pleasure to hear. But I suspect speaking a lot slower than usual. It came out a bit too quiet for me but I’ll hunt for a better player (as the Google on didn’t work for me, either).
I must concur with Elsi, we need a transcript…the many many readers who don’t have English would be able to stick it into a translator and get the wisdom of the answers.
Anon with
“..P.S. I remember there was a guy with conspiracy theory that Saker is a CIA asset and a female. I guess at least latter is now proven wrong haha :)..”
What kind of amateur conspiracy theorist are you? c’mon, think about it…. he MIGHT be a female who’s hired an ACTOR to do the podcast. And of course CIA assets exist in all genders, so that is a separate item.
Kat kan,
I’m sure that individual is going to continue to insist that Saker is a female that “she” used simple pitch-shifting filters via audio software that lowers the pitch of the speaker so that a female voice will sound male. To explain away the normal tone jingle at the beginning, the intelligent conspiracy theorist will contend the jingle was prefiltered to a matching high frequency profile and then pitch-shifted down frquency back to normal (pre-biasing) in the final playout while Saker performed “her” narration.
You can’t convince some people no matter what.
All kidding aside, Saker’s podcast was good and the information provided was a refreshing change from the politically correct fluff we receive from the MSM and the wacked-out conspiracy exaggerations from the tabloid spectrum of the alternative media. A sort of antidote to the brainwashing from the MSM. What’s also refreshing is just like a normal down to earth person he doesn’t claim to be right or have all the answers, but rather, he’s providing his best analysis based on his knowledge, contacts, and experience. How different from the know-it-all certainty portrayed by the fraudulent bow-tie wearing ‘experts’ flogged by MSM TV Media.
congratulations saker, a truly brilliant ‘first go’, everything totally understandable, content also brilliant,
as with others down under, couldnt access via google but no problems with media fire,
just as a note, having lived in russia, deep voices are often found with russian men, but saker’s particularly deep, even more than ‘g’s’, who was often asked when young – ‘have you thought of working in radio’,
silliness aside, excellent effort, look forward to the next one, thank you, jg
Natoist will not recognize the elections in Novorossia, they only like the elections which they had staged in Kiev and in other vassal countries in NATO-EU countries.
Remarkable.
Hard to believe you are not an American from someplace like Pennsylvania who went to very good schools.
Awesome.
Loved it !!
I am usually too tied to read much lately – and to sit back with earphones on and relax to your voice was fantastic.
Would love to have it become a regular event.
Cheers Peter
I am not trying to scare anyone here, but you might want to look into this on your own.
Are you aware that intelligence agencies can (allegedly) track you according to variations in recorded sound?
These variations are induced by fluctuations in the frequency of the power supply, for which the suppliers maintain a database mapping frequencies to locations.
With access to these databases it seems possible to localize the place where some audio was recorded.
As you feared, it seems Google has folded the podcast. Referring to “too many listeners!” Blimey!
Then again, why does it not surprise me with Google…
Just finished listening. I have to get up in three hours to go to work and, even so, I could not bring myself to stop and listen to the rest later – totally interesting, informative, and a great delivery. Cannot wait for another one.
excellent job, great voice, listened to all of it with great pleasure. keep going!
I managed to get it in time, though!
Very well done! :)
Mediafire is still working all right!
At the moment 4shared is stalling too.
Hello Saker,
Listened to your podcast yesterday and gladly will listen to the next ones. Do not worry about irritating jingles or music, that’s not the reason why people listen to you: they want ‘content’ and not waste time on anything else. Your voice is pleasant to listen to, there are no long pauses, no ‘uh-s’, you don’t talk too slow neither too fast (although you could perhaps talk a little slower, but that is not really an issue) and it is articulate enough to follow. The sound level is good, good enough to listen to on an ipad or smart phone.
Keep on the good work.
Kind regards,
Dutch
P.S. regarding the content, I do have issues with the constant pejorative use of the word ‘Nazi’. The use of that word is largely meaningless in the 21st century and only applies to Germany 192x-1945. Nazism was about two things only:
1) reversing Versailles and getting all the German territories back in Germany
2) prevent ‘jewish-communism’ from taking over Germany, like they had done in Russia and like is happening in slow motion in the US since 1913 (‘AngloZionism’ as you keep calling it, a euphemism, were ‘Zionists’ are in reality in pole position and ‘Anglos’ merely the water carriers)
I remember that in the past you were in despair about all ‘the Nazis’ bombarding your forum. Perhaps when the time is right you could open a topic about WW1/WW2/revisionism, but that is obviously up to you. The old Nuremberg victors court results are really untenable in the modern days world. And there are many signs that Putin himself is willing to lift the veil on this topic if the right moment is there.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.530857
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5445161/Russia-accuses-Poland-of-starting-Second-World-War.html
Also on Russian television things are brewing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD11igF7seE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYSy80WlmWY
(Viktor Suvorov speaks for US Naval Institute)
Thank you so much for this.
I hope you keep doing these podcasts.
I listened twice, and I gained a little more knowledge each time.
And please just keep up this amazing blog. It’s so wonderful to read someone who is, while pro Russia, still totally, honestly fair.
Thank you again.
Off topic but a significant development
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11203825/Syrian-rebels-armed-and-trained-by-US-surrender-to-al-Qaeda.html
Syrian rebels armed and trained by US surrender to al-Qaeda
Moderate rebels in Syria that the US have armed and trained to fight jihadists have surrendered to al-Qaeda
Podcast worked well, imo. Personally I don’t think it needs music and perhaps you need to take some care with copyright etc if you use any. You don’t want to be pinned up like Assange on a trumped up petty (& bankrupting) charge etc.
Dear Saker, this first podcast worked very well; please continue. Your analyitics and good heart help to make the difference in this world, thank you so much.
Super first podcast; clear and precise. I don’t think you need music jingles at all. I want to be able to hear what you are saying. Agree with many posters above, keep ’em coming along with a “special” discussing one particular topic every now and again.
Mediafire worked fine for me. Didn’t bother to try with google.
Good idea from Larchmonter to combine the paypal donate button and ask a question suggestion.
I too thought it excellent and hope you will be repeating the exercise in the not too distant future .
Bob
Saker the podcast is excelent, I would love to hear more of them, so keep them coming! I would suggest doing one every two weeks, if you have the time. Also I would suggest doing a topic – podcast, where you mostly share your thoughts about one certain topic (like someone said before, doing a WW1/WW2/revisionism podcast sounds to me very interesting).
I listened the stream at Mediafire, hadn’t any problems. The time – lenght of the podcast is just fine, I would keep that, I wouldn’t add any jingles or songs, the one at the start is more than enough (and btw it sounded terrible, like all speaker to michrophone recordings).
Good podcast! It didn’t sound as if it was your first: good voice, confidence and clear pronunciation, and thankfully, none of the classic “uh’s” and “ya know” I hear nowadays. Very pleasant to hear well spoken English, made me remember my school days… I look forward to the next podcast and please do a special one on the Ukraine situation.
I couldn’t access with Google but had no problem at all with Mediafire.
Thank you!
Podcast: forget the google site-it did not let me in..Your voice has the a subtle bass tremolo of compassion that Bonker-Bibi’s lacks so forget the gentle teasing that you are receiving on that score. It would be good to know how to spell Timothy Wear or is it Ware’s name so the suggestion of listing resources in a post session of posting might be considered.
re: Russian rehabilitation agency for reconstruction of Novorussia—well, first they have to keep the pseudo-semi fascists or whatever we want to call them from gaining the unfortunate habit of every so often charging in to “mow the grass” They need to be disabused of that notion definitively.
very nice voice with a sense of authority and gravitas.
very good work saker.
congratulations !
Oh my…..the Saker is……Ben Mileilkowski?
I find it difficult to believe that this was your first ever broadcast of any sort! Very nicely done!
I enjoyed your brief thoughts on “monarchy.” I am inspired to think about reading the two works you suggest! Thank you!
Interesting podcast.
I have just finished reading two volumes of the late Vadim Rogovin’s 6 volume history of Soviet Russia. The title of the whole series is “Was there an alternative?”
Only these two volumes are translated into English at present. The titles are:
1937: Stalin’s Year of Terror
and
Stalin’s Terror of 1937-1938: Political Genocide in the USSR.
All volumes are available in Russian.
After reading Solzhenitsyn’s “Gulag Archipelago” written from an anti-communist perspective, I recommend Rogovin’s history to get an explanation from the Trotksyist perspective.
Do not know about stalin but seeing the traitors that Russia harbour even today , stalin type is needed to sort out those traitors who should all be culled. So stalin had ni choice but to sort out agents of anglo enemies. Sad is stalin dud not attack england along with germany .
Many thanks, to all comments here as I screwed up my courage for a new format and did enjoy it. Yes to The Gulag Archipelago, and another good read for me has been “Echoes of a Native Land” by Serge Schmemann.
I will take gentle exception to your claim that all Orthodox are monarchists, but simply because I go back in my own Orthodoxy to the very early church which was a catacomb church in its infancy and not state affiliated. There was a church before Constantine, the church of the apostles, so for me separation of church and state extends even to the monarchy. But we can agree to disagree; there is so much upon which we agree to agree.
Thank you for all you do.
Nice podcast.
So you say to the Serbs : be patient. No justice will come soon.
What can we else do?
I am glad you reminded Kosovo Albanians that they should enjoy every day of their power over Kosovo because it will not last. Everybody knows this in Serbia, but we are powerless right now.
Therefore you should understand why we Serbs are impatient with the developments in south-east Ukraine, especially Odessa. We NEED Russia as close as we can get!
Btw, we should all support brave Hungarian leader Orban, who though not Slavic or Orthodox takes side of Russia and is resisting the Anglo-Zionist empire. I think his days are numbered, the Empire will start another Maidan there, but that can inspire the victory of Marine Le Pen in France, which would be the greatest strategic victory for Russia in Europe.
Once we get France to leave EU and NATO, the Empire will lose Europe forever and Russia will win. I am just afraid that the Zionists will repeat Jörg Haider scenario with Marine Le Pen. They do not hesitate to murder anybody.
Greetings from Serbia,
The Wend.
Nice podcast.
So you say to the Serbs : be patient. No justice will come soon.
What can we else do?
I am glad you reminded Kosovo Albanians that they should enjoy every day of their power over Kosovo because it will not last. Everybody knows this in Serbia, but we are powerless right now.
Therefore you should understand why we Serbs are impatient with the developments in south-east Ukraine, especially Odessa. We NEED Russia as close as we can get!
Btw, we should all support brave Hungarian leader Orban, who though not Slavic or Orthodox takes side of Russia and is resisting the Anglo-Zionist empire. I think his days are numbered, the Empire will start another Maidan there, but that can inspire the victory of Marine Le Pen in France, which would be the greatest strategic victory for Russia in Europe.
Once we get France to leave EU and NATO, the Empire will lose Europe forever and Russia will win. I am just afraid that the Zionists will repeat Jörg Haider scenario with Marine Le Pen. They do not hesitate to murder anybody.
Greetings from Serbia,
The Wend.
The podcast was great, very informative. I don’t need music, though don’t have a problem if you want to do that. I’m not so keen on talking over music though as I have difficulty making out the speech then. I’d be happy with more frequent podcasts – if you were able to manage that. Thanks for everything you are doing.
Excellent!
Ps. I see why people think you sound like Netanyahu but that’s a compliment- as he is- in spite of his nutty ideas- a very good public speaker.
[from Blue]
I have taken the liberty of uploading the podcast file to
http://www.filedropper.com/thesakerpodcastno1
Don’t know much about the site, how fast the download is, and I never used it before, but it seems like it should work if someone wants to download the podcast and can’t get it elsewhere. This just seemed to be a good idea if mediafire can’t be accessed.
_Blue
excellent podcast. thanks. re: monarchism/Orthodoxy in Russia. I am reading “The Making of Holy Russia; the Orthodox Church and Russian Nationalism before the Revolution.” by John Strickland. he uses nationalism instead on monarchism. the idea of Holy Rus having been destroyed by Peter I and his successors.
Well, I tried to download and got the message that so many people had downloaded the file that I would have to wait a while. I can listen online, anyway, but congratulations on your great success with this, Saker!
pcz