First and foremost, a disclaimer: I don’t normally comment on an event right after it has happened, if only because in most cases the key information needed to make an evaluation is missing. In this case, however, I am confident that three things are already obvious:
First, the murder by the Saudi Wahabis of Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr and 46 other Shia was a deliberately planned provocation. The Saudis knew, knew full well, that it would result in an explosion of rage in the Shia world. Not only that, but the timing was also carefully chosen.
Second, and no matter how deliberate the provocation was, the Iranians, sadly, did walk directly into the Saudi trap. Yes, I know, crowds are unpredictable, the local cops and riot police probably shared the same outrage, in the past, embassies were also attacked in other countries too (Russia, China), and President Rouhani unambiguously condemned these events and promised that every single rioter would be found and punished, but the fact remains that the Iranians did fall into the Saudi trap by failing to protect the Saudi diplomatic buildings (which was their legal obligation) and thereby gave the Saudis the perfect excuse.
Third, even if Iran did screw up, the Saudi reaction is ridiculously out of proportion and this clearly indicates that this was a carefully staged provocation aimed at creating a new, and extremely dangerous, crisis in the Middle-East.
Now let’s look at the bigger picture:
- Daesh is in trouble in Syria and, possibly, in Iraq
- The Saudis are in trouble in Yemen
- Turkey has committed a huge mistake in shooting down the Russian SU-24
- The Saudis have just created an anti-Shia military force (their so-called “anti-terrorist Islamic force) which includes no less that 34 countries!
- Other Wahabi run states (such as Bahrain, Sudan and the UAE) are now joining the KSA in its anti-Iranian stance
In my opinion there is a good probability that these events are all the staging process of an attack against Iran, but not on Iran’s territory, but in Syria. I doubt that the Wahabis would dare to attack Iran directly simply because there is no way for them to defeat Iran. Not only is the Iranian military vastly superior to anything these Wahabi fat cats could deploy, but the geography of Iran makes this country really impossible to defeat. If the Saudis and their Wahabi allies cannot even defeat the Yemenis, they are light-years away from being able to take on a sophisticated major regional military power like Iran (not to mention that an insurrection of Shia in Bahrain could give Tehran a perfect pretext to intervene). So no, I don’t see the Saudis taking on Iran frontally.
But what they can do is to attempt to attack the (much smaller) Iranian force in Syria. Under the guise of an anti-terrorist operation the Gulf monarchies could justify sending even more troops and weapons to Daesh and further exploit the numerical advantage Daesh has over the Syrian forces. Considering what they did to the Russian airliner over the Sinai, I would not even put past these crazies to hope to maybe attack the tiny Russian ground force currently deployed in Syria. All that’s needed to this hellish combo is to have the Turks declare some “safe zone” and openly bring in their forces into northern Syria.
Okay – maybe I am paranoid (I am!). But when I see how deliberately the Saudis engineered their provocation and now how smoothly they then ridiculously over-reacted, I get very, very nervous indeed.
I have always said that, besides Israel, the craziest and most dangerous countries in the region are Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan. To see two of them so deeply committed to an escalation is, I submit, very worrisome.
And that brings me back to something I wrote in my latest report about the Russian military intervention in Syria: Iran has taken a huge risk in getting militarily involved. It appears that the Wahabi crazies, whether egged on by Uncle Sam or not (probably yes), have decided to make Iran pay for its role.
Not good.
So for all the conciliatory words of Biden & Co. in Moscow, it appears that the AngloZionists are, yet again, doubling down and going yet on another offensive.
I have an extremely high opinion of the Iranian leadership, which has shown tremendous wisdom and caution in the past, and I trust that they will take the necessary steps to deny the Saudis what they want. But one thing is for sure: the new year 2016 begins with some very bad developments.
The Saker
Like Turkey misjudging Russia, Saudi and the US and its camel-rider coalition will find itself in deep doo-doo going after Iran inside Syria.
Syria is now Russia’s turf. There is a virtual no-fly controlled by Russia. Though some areas are not covered by the S 400s, the airpower of RF will take down anything resembling a threat to Syria/its allies inside Syria.
The war in Yemen is a Saudi disaster, and it is more likely that theater is where the attack against Iran’s interest will turn.
If Turkey and SA try some insane double-team on Syria in order to “get” Iran, they will be decimated by Russian forces. Turkey is virtually at its limits. They would have a war with the Kurds armed by Russia if they really tried to do more in Syria.
The key to any war against Iran by SA is either Israel or the US for an air attack. The inability of SA to fly anywhere alone and without protection by others is historic fact.
The key to any war in support of Sunnis (not just protecting the Kingdom) is Egypt. If Egypt’s troops are not heavily committed, there cannot be a ground war.
I don’t see Egypt helping in significant numbers in Yemen. They have issues of their own in the Sinai and next door with Libya, the new home of the caliphate shortly.
All this Saudi inflammation is because they want to get nukes of their own. This is their opening gambit to force the issue. Of course, the Israeli’s would do everything to keep nukes away from them as it has to prevent an Iranian nuclear arsenal.
The Kingdom is in serious shape economically, and has just set fire to its Shiite minority.
Iran will not start anything. If it has been loathe to go in force into Iraq and Syria, it won’t initiate anything in a convoluted war that would leave them land-locked with US NAVY controlling the waters they need for import and export. Even Obama would have to okay such a move against Iran.
So far, the price of oil did not jump up. This is bad news for SA. They must have $50-60 oil soon.
The coming collapse in ISIS must be terrifying to the financiers in the Kingdom and Gulf States and Qatar. The US is scrambling to save as many of the best ISIS units and is moving them into Turkey and Libya, with some being sent to Afghanistan.
The Syria War will continue, but the high-water mark of ISIS is over. Russia is doubling down with men, planes, artillery and special weapons that will finish ISIS in Syria by late summer.
That reality, more than Iran, is what has plunged the Kingdom and its amateur leadership that has blundered in war, oil strategy, geopolitical gambits and picking allies.
In the last few months, we have witnessed Turkey run into Russia and now it is caught in a war with the Kurds inside and outside its borders, and the Saudis running into Russia with a suicidal oil war and decades of Wahhabi proxy wars. Both are big losers destined to lose control and Russia is the big winner.
All that makes perfect sense but the empire must strike back.
They can’t strike Russia yet, they can’t strike China because it’s too far, so they can only strike Iran. It’s not the prime target against the resistance but it will do damage. Unless they do something about Iran, that country is simply going to be totally self suficient on military industry with more effective generation of arms to come as they gather knowledge and experience. They will boom due to exports and Caucasus development. And all that being independent and alligned with Russia and China. The empire will try to stop that, any kind of war in any theater will be costly to Iran and push them back on their development. Just as Russia has time on it’s side regarding Ukraine, the US and Israel have time on their side on the ME, even if all the countries there are in rumbles and flames, the empire is still on superior position and fixed infiltration, Israel isn’t going to disappear from the ME.
The US plays good lifting sanctions but then soon afterwards must engage in war because they were given a chance and attacked our allies. It’s a perfect PR for stupid Americans and westerns.
“They can’t strike Russia yet, they can only strike Iran”
Israel Defense Minister Ya’alon said as much, at a meeting with the Brookings Institution (04/12/2015), Israeli DM Moshe Ya’alon (transcript here)
Ya’alon lamented Russia’s role in the nuclear deal, and Putin’s subsequent Syrian intervention, which “has created an emergency situation for us”: (1) he is saving Assad, and (2) weakening Daesh, thereby (3) making it impossible to break Syria up as planned; and worst of all (4) giving Teheran the S-300 system, which will be “operational in a couple of weeks”.
Ya’alon insists Iran is much more dangerous for us than Daesh:
Question: “I’m Elliot Engel. I’m the Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. You met with our committee the other day. Could you share with us tonight what you told us when you met with us, why you look at Iran as the greatest strategic threat to Israel – more than Daesh, than ISIS. Why Iran concerns you more?”
Ya’lon tells some half truths, and returns to his main point:
The US must “orchestrate a pragmatic coalition with the Gulf states,” – a Sunni axis to counter this Russian-supported Shia axis, but quickly, for allies flock to Putin: “We don’t like the fact that King Abdullah of Jordan is going to Moscow, the Egyptians are going to Moscow, the Saudis are going to Moscow. It should have been very different. And we believe the United States can’t sit on the fence.” See p. 9 of the transcript – http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/events/2015/12/04-saban-2015-israel-us-yesterday-today-tomorrow/transcripts/uncorrected-transcripta-conversation-with-moshe-yaalon-israels-minister-of-defense.pdf
The anti-Iran, actually anti-Russian coalition was not long in coming – and neither was the provocation designed to spark off the conflict, as the Saker so ably discusses. With the US and Israel – the Ziocons – “leading from behind”, pushing their Saudi dupes who are fools enough to imagine they are following and agenda of their own.
Bang on target,SA does not have an airforce anymore thanks to houthis,even if they have they cant challenge RUF in Syria.They dont have an army either most of them have been expanded in Syirag they cant even control their border nevermind challenge R+6.They have the interior ministry police and the pretoriaan guards to bully the unruly crowd over at Quatif and thats all they can do.This is their last dead dance thumping their cowardly chest!They are crying out for other arabs to help them out while trying to legitimise Jewish and Turk help which is the only two they can count on, but with friends like these two SA ass is toast!Blackwater is all they can count on but the cash does not measure up.Salman an the clan are twisting wildly in the air grasping for straws!
Agreed. The US still holds a large but losing hand of cards and it’s clear that it will play every last one of them before it admits that it’s bust and out of the game. The point is that the US is not getting any new cards, history has none with its name on. The US play now is simply running out the clock.
The US now knows it can’t attack Russia or China. I wonder if it realizes yet that it can’t attack Iran either. The great game is lost, the tides of history are very clear.
There is room left on this stage for the US to make a truly monumental blunder, and wherever that happens will be the scene of its total and irreversible humiliation on a global scale. I don’t think the US wants that place to be anywhere, but certainly not the Middle East.
All that is happening now is noise and theater, and the gross miscalculation by all the losing players of the force they command (although I suspect the US is the canniest in this regard).
We will see plenty more bloody miscalculations this year and some time following until every last card is played and the US is bust. Thanks to the forbearance and better strategy of the good guys, the winners, perhaps an escalation that spells utter catastrophe for the US and Europe can be avoided.
Fair points, but it is debatable whether Turkey misjudged Russia. Maybe the purpose was to harm Russia’s relations with Ankara. Turkey is not an independent country. Similarly,
“If Turkey and SA try some insane double-team on Syria in order to “get” Iran, they will be decimated by Russian forces. Turkey is virtually at its limits. They would have a war with the Kurds armed by Russia if they really tried to do more in Syria.”
Maybe the plan is to expel or kill the Kurds. Russia couldn’t really get the kind of weapons to the places needed in time, could she? And Turkey has a large army, plus membership in NATO. Having a few hundred troops in Iraq, a thousand secretly in Syria, and a few thousand suppressing the Kurds does not necessarily put them at its limits.
We should put ourselves in their shoes. If you were in the leadership of Turkey, KSA, or the Western bankster oligarchy, what would you do? Perhaps from a bankster perspective, a Shia-Sunni civil war starting in KSA would be good news. Millions of refugees and collapsing countries and changing borders. It would offer gangsters like Erdoghan the cover to expel the Kurds. In this scenario, it is questionable whether the current Syria could survive. There would be grand chaos and millions moving all over the place. How could Russia keep its desire of non-sectarian governments and current borders if the massacres started spreading? If there is one element of US strategy that is easy to understand, it is to have the fighting done in the enemy’s lands, not at home.
If there is one thing Russia has demonstrated in the past two years, Crimea, Donbass and Syria, it is she can move weapons under the noses of everyone in the world.
Moving some heavy weapons along the northern border to the Kurds is child’s play for RF armed forces. And they don’t have to be polite about it.
Paul II, you are grossly misinformed about Turkey’s abilities. NATO has already rejected Ankara’s machinations of trying to start a war with Russia. Not going to happen because NATO + Ankara would be wiped out.
Always remember this: the RF military doctrine is to use nukes first, for strategic or tactical threats which cannot be defeated by conventional weapons.
If Ankara poured over the border into Syria en masse, or if NATO began bombing Russian bases and installations, Putin has already ordered “any means of destruction” to protect the troops and weapons systems.
You know who understands this very clearly, with absolute certainty? The entire world, except people who don’t understand words in sentences and Putin speaking them.
Just a brief refresher: prior to Sept. 30th, the Russians had moved 4000 men, 34 jet bombers and some helo gunships into Syria without anyone knowing they were on the way. They just got there.
And then they were ready to fly sorties, and the Russians went to the US command in Iraq and gave them one hour notice.
The Russians airlift enormous loads, ship by sea and do it faster than any other military.
The Chinese have huge capacity, but can’t equal the lift and loads of the Russians.
Turkey is boxed inside its borders for all intents and purposes.
Same with the Saudis.
Learn about the capacity of nations’ armed forces, their operational procedures, their fighting effectiveness.
Russia is one more year of production of weapons, expanding its capacity and installing the next generation of missile defenses, the S 500. Once they complete that development and supply to its military, it quite conceivably would be invincible on land. It already is impossible to invade Russia with a land army or to take control of its skies with air power or to defeat it with any array of missiles one might imagine.
Pay attention to American Generals who understand the leap Russia has made over that last five or so years. They know Russia cannot be messed with.
Actually, snipers in Syria present a greater threat to Russian forces than all of NATO and Turkey included. Unless some one wants to see their entire nation vaporized.
The Russians just took out of mothballs a mobile system MSTA-S that fires nuclear warhead as well as conventional shells 20 kms., at the rate of 6-8 per minute. 450 units being readied for combat. Why do you think these are being prepared?
Either for bolstering Donbass or being sent to Syria, probably, or to be used where large masses of troops or armored vehicles would be used in an offensive.
What if they are being designated for Kurds? The perfect mobile vehicle and firepower to drive the Turks out of any area the Kurds want for Kurdistan.
I respect Russia’s military prowess quite a bit. My speculation in that case was for Turkey to expel or kill the Kurds inside Turkey, not Syria. As a goal of destabilization, a goal which the empire might try on other fronts at the same time. If several million Kurds fled to Syria at the same time other major escalations occurred, perhaps it would not be so easy for Russia and Iran to respond adequately.
And getting Russian troops into Syria was something that both parties supported. Getting assistance to Kurds and the PKK inside Turkey might be much harder. Also, are they even trained in how to use the weapons? One would imagine that it is not that hard to ethnically cleanse towns.
The broader point is that Western strategy is not to directly fight Russian forces; it is to create situations that are lose-lose for Russia and further the Western agenda of breaking up countries and creating hatred and war between Shia and Sunni. So, as an example, perhaps Russia can help the Kurds to create a Kurdistan. Fine, but that may be what the empire wants. Russia can smash Turkey, but that, too, may be good for the West and harm Russia’s economy. The Ukrainian situation of the NAF fighting Kiev forces is a perfect example of a lose-lose situation for Moscow.
As for your question about the MSTA-S, I don’t know. It could be to put the fear of God in opponents. Perhaps the purpose is to speed up the clean-up going on in Syria. Maybe the Syrian side needs to go faster as the **** may hit the fan before too long in the Middle East as a whole.
No-one questions the very good job Putin and his team have done of modernizing the Russian military and getting it ready for serious combat. What some of us are more worried about is cases where Russia and NATO do not directly fight. The US has a lot more expendable puppets than Russia, and a lot more money for bribery of the elites of those countries around the world which are for sale.
How is Ukraine a lose-lose situation for Russia? Putin effectively achieved two vital for the Russian national security objectives in 2014.
1. He returned Crimea to Russia thus avoiding an inevitable military confrontation with Ukraine over the peninsula. Sure Ukraine would denounce the Black Sea Russian Navy base agreement, and try to kick the Russian Fleet from the base there. The hearing to denonce the agreement was initiated in the Rada by a group of MPs including Yatsenuk and Turchinov back in 2013 but did not go thru as the Rada was controlled by Yanukovitch.
Russia would never leave Crimean navy base at any cost, so the war would have been inevitable.
2. Russia has initiated and secured a frozen territorial conflict in Ukraine – all that was needed to kill the Ukrainian inspiration to join NATO. Russia has been managing conflicts like this one for years – in Transjestria, in Azerbaijan, in Georgia, and it’s been working alright so far. Without Crimea and any reasonable chances to be incorporated in NATO Ukraine has no real value for the States. It will be abandoned rather sooner than later, and Russia can wait. Ukraine will be either a Russia friendly state or there will be no Ukrane.
I think you mean 2S4 ‘Tulipan’ mortars.. An order of magnitude more fire power than 2S19 MSTA – equivalent to precision air strikes..
2S19 Main armament 152 mm howitzer 2A65
2S4 Main armament 240 mm (9.4 in) mortar (130 kg for a standard projectile one round per minute.)
Syria – 24 vehicles in active service with the 3rd, 4th and 10th Armoured Divisions, and the 14th Special Forces Airborne Division. the Smel’chak projectile consistently destroyed targets quickly, precisely, and with only a few rounds. The extreme firepower per round compensates for the Tyulpan’s slow rate of fire.
There is only one place this would be used… The nato strong hold in north Syria… Idlib.. Although Syria has only used it once due to the firepower involved and Assad most likely put a stop to it.
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“Just a brief refresher: prior to Sept. 30th, the Russians had moved 4000 men, 34 jet bombers and some helo gunships into Syria without anyone knowing they were on the way. They just got there.”
Hello, is there anyone out there? http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satellite_surveillance.htm
“It is difficult to estimate just how many Americans are being watched by satellites, but if there are 200 working surveillance satellites (a common number in the literature), and if each satellite can monitor 20 human targets, then as many as 4000 Americans may be under satellite surveillance. However, the capability of a satellite for multiple-target monitoring is even harder to estimate than the number of satellites; it may be connected to the number of transponders on each satellite, the transponder being a key device for both receiving and transmitting information. A society in the grips of the National Security State is necessarily kept in the dark about such things. Obviously, though, if one satellite can monitor simultaneously 40 or 80 human targets, then the number of possible victims of satellite surveillance would be doubled or quadrupled.”
Well saker forgot what exactly happened.. The Russians spent like 6 months modernizing the naval base so transferred a lot of people over to do that. By the time they moved fighters to the air base, US got Bulgaria to stop all over flights and tried to get the Greeks to ban Russian flights as well.. After which Russia used Iranian air space to fly fighters to Syria and that’s why only 35 planes were in Syria by then.. So it was known that Russia was moving equipment to Syria.. But Russia was already supplying like a ship a week for years which ended up like a ship every couple of days.. And YES the US did try to stop it.
So the US watches everything.. But if you don’t have the people capable of looking, it is all useless junk.. Lots of utterly selfish arrogant greedy exceptional supremacists who think laws and rules don’t apply to them. These people are good at talking.. Not so good at doing much of anything else.. In organizations like intelligence it is not if you are capable that counts but how low can you go..
And the Bulgarians seemed to have breed with the Turks a lot to gain the gene for backstabbing… They seem to be as good as the Turks at it..
@mmirww
Ah – the Bulgarians.
The country is run by an outright mafia, the main mafiosa being the current Prime minister. And a NATO member to boot.
Heavily involved in the supply of arms and Captagon (mixed with no-doubt Turkish supplied) dope to ‘enhance’ the takfiris ‘fighting’ capabilities.
Psychotic violence to you and me.
Excellent article published today by Theirry Meyssan on the subject (and on Saudi involvement – of course):
http://www.voltairenet.org/article189802.html
“. But if you don’t have the people capable of looking, it is all useless junk..”
You seriously think the Langley scum are stupid?
No, the CIA bunch are not stupid but they answer to the neocons who are flat out insane. This bunch thinks that God asks them permission to be God.
If the Russian millitary is so strong in conventional warfare then why do you think that they will use nuclear weapons at first strike ?
Why waste Russian lives on the walking dead of NATO?
Generally agree. I want to remind some who are old enough to remember 1968, when Soviet Union moved hundreds of thousands soldiers with heavy equipment to Prague practically overnight.
No weapons were used in Crimea and none seen except rifles that were “moved by Russia” by ordering soldiers on the Russian army bases to pick them up and march out the gate.
Not a demonstration of moving weapons under anybody’s nose.
Since everybody on the Russian side and everybody on the NAF side denies that RF supplies them with weapons and gives reasonable alternate explanations of where the weapons in the south-east come from, I’ll pass on the theory that Russia has “back-engineered” the Romulan cloaking device and is crossing the most-watched border in human history under everyone’s noses or under anything else.
In fact, exactly the opposite is true, if everybody in the world is convinced that weapons are passing under their noses — rather than failing to detect posited real weapons, they are regularly
detecting non-existent weapons.
People who want Russia to look good, and think assisting the NAF achieves that, claim RF has armed the NAF.
People who want Russia to look bad, and think assisting the NAF achieves that, claim the same.
There are many permutations and combinations, but some of us are still back at our initial position. If tanks are crossing the borders, where are the pictures?
She has hardly moved weapons to Syria under anybody’s nose — she flaunts them.
It looks like the lack of satellite images to proof the movement of tanks, artillery and other heavy military equipment through the Russian-Ukrainian border could be explained by the Russia’s ability to effectively blind NATO satellites when and where they want it. A few of the Pentagon and NATO officials have publically complained about this new electronic warfare capability of Russia. We have seen plenty of very clear images from Syria showing us in detail what the Russians don’t mind the world to see, and still we have nothing from Ukraine, while DNR and LNR have already built very capable armed forces including their own tank battalions, motorized and artillery brigades.
Check out this video from Donetsk military parade from May 9 2015. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pseZU_bmo
Heavy toys start rolling from 22.30 to 30.00
You can see that the Russians sending a message by showing off the Strela10, surface to air missile systems. Hardly those shiny T72s and self-propelled howitzers have been bought on the Ukrainian markets. And there is no doubt that the West would do anything to obtain solid proof that those military toys have arrived from Russia, and to date they have not a single satellite image to show.
You state “They would have a war with the Kurds armed by Russia, if they really tried to more in Syria”. I don’t want to keep stating the Kurds are allied with the U.S., NATO, and Israel. Especially the PKK who are simply a NATO proxy force working with them to impliment their agenda in the process of destabilizing Turkey. I do not believe forming an alliance with Russia to against the Wahhabists supports that agenda. As previously stated, the Kurds are already working against the Turkish state. Connect all of the dots. You find exactly who is behind the Kurdish veil.
Charles, you have a point:
In addition to the Sunni coalition, and the planned manipulation of “Sunni tribes, Sunni elements in Syria,” as means of avoiding “ Western boots on the ground”, Ya’alon suggested, “let’s empower the local boots on the ground, mainly the Sunnis, also the Kurds.” http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/events/2015/12/04-saban-2015-israel-us-yesterday-today-tomorrow/transcripts/uncorrected-transcripta-conversation-with-moshe-yaalon-israels-minister-of-defense.pdf
But this doesn’t say that Israel and its camp will succeed in putting the Kurds in their pocket. The Kurds will follow their interests, which they may find better served by working with the Russians.
@RMM
They only have Barzani in their pocket.
I doubt the Syrian Kurds – increasingly moving to Assad/Russia want to be Israel’s patsie for a region-wide war, definitely not for any ‘
Sunni/Kurdistan with Bardo at the helm – he doesn’t even have an electoral mandate from the Iraqi Kurds.
The idea of a Sunnistan will in go down like a lead balloon with the Kurds – especially the Syrian and Iraqi groups.
As the PKK are Marxist, I doubt they are operating for a US/oil cartel agenda. They would nationalize resources. That’s why they are denounced as terrorists by the US and Bardo. Bardo’s political ambitions begin and end with a checkbook.
So the Kurds are a long way from being a unitary and malleable force at Israeli hands.
This could backfire badly for them. especially as they are openly inciting sectarian war, and choosing the side of the wannabe Caliphate ISIS Sunnis.
Maybe the YPD/PKK will be the next HZB?
” – The war in Yemen is a Saudi disaster, and it is more likely that theater is where the attack against Iran’s interest will turn. – ” And it appears you have been proven correct, Larchmonter445, with reports that the Saudi air force has attacked the Iranian embassy in Yemen.
Dear The Saker,
Agree with you totally. This was pre planned and coincidentally was also just after a visit by Erdogan to SA. There was a good article in RT on this today:
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/327811-saudi-arabia-nimr-cleric-iran/
Also note how SA ran to the UNSC straight away – hmm – just like Turkey after taking down the Russian jet. I have been pondering whether those who attacked the SA Embassy – may have done so on purpose (that is paid/part of a colour revolution group) or just a crowd got over excited and it took the police a bit of time to stop the crowd and arrest the culprits.
The Saudis have now stopped commercial ties with Iran also. Iran has asked for peace during this time and let us hope a few hot heads over reacting/venting does not start a ME war. As you point out they might use Syria – but that could be difficult with the Russian defences. It is also interesting that this month was to be the finalisation of the list of terror groups and start of the UN backed Syrian peace process. The terror backers Turkey and SA can now use this as an excuse too.
One other point – the SA economy is in big trouble and what other way to stop the locals rising up?
I wonder if all the other countries who signed up for this anti-terror group really knew what they were letting themselves in for? This Sunni/Shai take on the situation is wrong. More like Wahhabi/Muslim Brotherhood vs the rest of Islam.
Breaking news – Somalia has asked Iranian diplomat to leave??? What!
Ban Ki Moon’s UN reaction:
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told the Saudi foreign minister that the decision to break ties with Tehran was “worrying.”
“The Secretary-General reiterated that the attack on the Saudi embassy in Tehran was deplorable, but added that the announcement of a break in Saudi diplomatic relations with Tehran was deeply worrying,” UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.
Ban Ki Moon – what about the deplorable murder/execution of a peaceful Shia Cleric and 46 others that started this whole incident?
As you say the Saker, very worrying times ahead.
Rgds,
Veritas
The one country in the gulf region that I thought wouldn’t react or back up SA has kept my faith in them:
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2016/01/oman-opposes-saudi-sectarian-stupidity.html
Oman says it like it is and opposes the Saudi sectarian stupidity.
Saker, it does not make sense.
If they are in trouble in Yemen, why would they go to Syria and face Russian directly ?
Putin has recently ordered his troops to defend themselves without higher authorities.
Turkey would not dare either unless there is another player behind Saudi’s move.
That would mean that AngloZionists are pushing for a war.
In that case finally there is a chance to put the end to these miseries.
I never believe that there is political solution – defeat is the only solution.
I already know who’s gonna lose, yes – AngloZionists, NATO will dissolve itself as there will be more players on board against war with Russia than those willing to fight them.
Once NATO dissolved US will not bother even think about nukes, there would be a peace talk like in Ukraine we witness.
no caps please – its like shouting. Just this once I have amended – in the future it will go to trash.Mod TR
The ghost of Gaddafi (MacBeth) is freaking the sh*t out of the Saudis (Lady MacBeth), I swear they are being consumed by their own guilt and paranoia. Iran would do well just to sit back and get ready to manage the aftermath.
The oil-price war (yes, that’s underpinning much of this conflict) is affecting Saudi badly.
They hoped (or rather, the AZ empire hoped) to bring down Russia with it.
What did Russia say? They would quit production when oil was 0$ per barrel.
Moral? Don’t mess with Mother Russia – she’s one tough babushka. And resourceful.
And now the Saudis are being pretty much set up to take the hit for state-sponsored terrorism.
Why not turn the whole thing on its head and start a Sunni v Shia war? That draws a neat sectarian veil over the terrorist/oil-smuggling trade that’s at the heart of this orchestrated conflict. (As Russia very well knows – she’s not hitting those convoys for ideological reasons.They are meant to keep prices below cost.)
And yes, they are in serious trouble with the Houthis – they have made inroads into KSA itself. They may very well find local support – so much of the news from there is being blacked out. There’s a reason for that.
The Saudis haven’t being schmoozing with Netanyahoo and Erdo for no reason: the hope is for a Sunnistan to emerge from the chaos.
And we all know who wants that.
Not a chance.
The wild card – the Syrian and Turkish Kurds (and maybe some of the disillusioned Iraqi ones too) is yet to be played.
Ps. Kurdish clerics have recently been admitted to Iran’s Supreme religious ruling council.
Wonder what advice they will issue to Kurds across the region?
Maybe they could ask the other Jihadi John, aka Lawrence of Arizonia, if this cretin was one of his staged productions found on his senate computer.
JAN 4
A new Islamic State video purports to show the death of five alleged British spies at the hands of a man speaking English with a British accent. And, though the video was not yet authenticated, news outlets were already comparing the grisly spectacle to the work of Jihadi John.
John, unmasked as Mohammed Emwazi by The Washington Post in February, was reportedly killed by a U.S. air strike in November.
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/%E2%80%98new-jihadi-john%E2%80%99-appears-to-kill-5-in-islamic-state-video/ar-AAgkp78
Many stories have paraded by these past months announcing that “safe zone” belt across northern Syria.
This from 6 weeks ago:
https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/566250-turkey-renews-plans-for-syria-safe-zone
A source in Turkey’s Foreign Ministry told the London-based daily that Washington and Ankara would work together to support a rebel campaign to battle ISIS in a nearly 100-kilometer wide border zone stretching from Marea in the west to the key town of Jarabulus near the Euphrates River.
jarabulus is #13 here gives crossings & acronym names:
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/55b312d32acae7c23f8b76f7-428-708/syria-turkeyborder.png
“Air cover will be provided by American and Turkish jets to Free Syrian Army brigades, which will in turn carry out the operations on the ground,” the source explained.
June 1914 all over again. Same people pushing the same buttons.
WW3 is a genocidal cull. Good people can’t imagine the devil’s calculation so act surprised when everything unfolds just as promised.
2016 will be a difficult year but this is just the begining.
How very, very sad.
Hi C I eh?… your quote – “…2016 will be a difficult year but this is just the begining. How very, very sad.”
I think that change is coming…I think things are going to get better…I agree with Larchmonter, that the world has tipped in favor of sanity and we are only witnessing the writhing of a dying …. I’d say dragon, but I like dragons….so its a monster…and orge, and hell beast…that is empire….
I can hardly wait to throw dirt on its grave…
I hope you’re right Ann. I would dearly love to throw dirt on empire’s grave.
That’s the funeral I wanna see!
My guess is that the Saudi’s are trying to force the US/the West to choose between them and Iran. Given how the US supports the dubious war against Yemen and the weak reactions of the US on the present Saudi actions (asking Iran to be moderate) they do have a chance to succeed.
The present Saudi regime feels like some neocons: they don’t understand the word compromise and they rather keep increasing the stakes. It is a risky game, but as long as their back is covered by Uncle Sam not too risky.
I can’t imagine the Saudi’s sending their soldiers to Syria. Volunteers is ok, but hundreds of dead soldiers wouldn’t make their regime more popular. However, Turkey is a different story: they have been pushing for a no-fly zone for a long time and they may have some more tricks in their sleeves. Not to mention that people like Kerry have been championing a no-fly zone too.
Saker, you are not over reacting. The Israelis may very well stage a provocation and then do an over reaction ( with them that is oxymoron–Israeli overreaction) along the Lebanese border in order to distract Hezbollah forces away from the Syrian campaign also. No one expects the Saudis to be competent in their assignment to engage Iranian troops in the area. More will be revealed. This is a key time in human history. Turkey could then swing in from the North with Saudis coming from the South and with Hezbollah having to retrench back to Lebanon , the only hope will be for the PKK Kurds, the Russians and the Iraqis to hold the center. Ouch.
The Russian intervention by invitation of Assad has left egg on the face of the US neocons and has enraged them—how dare Putin!!! Far from clucking their tongues and promising “body bags”, I think they are going to “go for it” to stop Russia/Iran/Syria.
Not surprisingly, Turkey is (prophylactically) hitting Kurds, the wild card, yes
teranam13, Israel worked hard on this Sunni anti-Iran coalition, which mean they are behind SA, whether they suggested the actual provocation or not:
Israeli DM Ya’alon to the Brookings Institution:
“We have the Sunni Arab camp, the most significant camp in the region, looking for leadership. And it appears to be that we, Israel, are on the same page with this camp, not just with Egypt and Jordan… but with Saudi Arabia, …”
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/events/2015/12/04-saban-2015-israel-us-yesterday-today-tomorrow/transcripts/uncorrected-transcripta-conversation-with-moshe-yaalon-israels-minister-of-defense.pdf
There is one word to describe what is now transpiring in the Middle East and that word is Escalation . The tension is spreading to Iran and Lebanon .Both are high on the list of targeted countries . If anyone thinks that the Anglozionists are going to stop their hegemonic onslaught ,then they live in a fantasy world . The question is how far will Russia and her Allies go to counter what is clearly a geopolitical struggle a la Mackinder.
If the Saudis and the Turks try such a thing,it will be the end for the house of al-Saud and for Erdogan. If NATO supports them ,it will be the end for NATO. I guess we will see soon if those people are really that insane.
“… the end of Nato”? Hopefully, you are right in your perception but I fear that the European countries will once more, willy-nilly, finally just tag along behind their master, with tails drawn between their legs and fangs bared at Russia. A more disgusting and stupid set of leaders I can’t imagine.,
The militaries of the European countries are run down and overstretched. A lot of equipment is in storage as they don’t have the men and/or budget to operate it. Much of the noise coming from the dimwitted politicians in simply that – noise.
…they are not leaders, they are poodles of anglo-americanism. The only time they show any kind of leadership is when they’ve been told to bark at Russia/Iran/other-latest-enemy.
It was no doubt planned by Saudi Arabia, but I think they may be off the reservation on this. Mainstream media coverage has been weirdly sympathetic to Iran and really quite anti-SA. That wouldn’t happen if it were part of an Empire-sanctioned move.
Saker, I agree with you & you are right in getting suspicious ‘when seeing how the Saudis engineered their provocation and now how smoothly they then ridiculously over-reacted’
Check this* out.. Erdogan was there visiting KSA just before the the provocation. It is all planned!.
(*)https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkeys-erdogan-arrives-in-saudi-arabia-for-syria-talks/2015/12/29/fb187d06-ae37-11e5-b281-43c0b56f61fa_story.html
I have said – over many years and in many Internet venues – that the goal of the US and Israel is a war with Iran which will degrade Iran as it has degraded Iraq, Libya, Syria and others. Israel absolutely wants Iran taken out of the Middle East equation and the US military-industrial complex is absolutely slavering for another decade-or-more-long war to keep up the profits achieved from the Iraq-Afghanistan wars for the last ten years.
It has been my belief that the goal of the Syrian crisis was to degrade Syria’s military so that 1) it cannot be an effective actor in an Iran war, and 2) it will allow Israel to cross Syrian territory – without having to engage the Syrian military – to degrade Hizballah in Lebanon and its ability to be an effective actor in an Iran war.
Make no mistake: Iran is THE target of everything that happens in the Middle East (at least those things which the US and Israel support.)
It may well be that Saudi Arabia is now being used by the US and Israel as the stalking horse to start a war with Iran. ISIS was one of those tools being used to degrade Syria and perhaps provide an excuse for a US/NATO attack on Syria. And ISIS was created and supported by Saudi Arabia, one way or the other. ISIS (and Al Qaeda in Syria) was also supported by the US as a means to degrade Syria (and was about to be used in 2013 as an excuse to directly attack Syria.)
So it would not surprise me that someone in the US and Israel noticed the increase in Iranian support for Syria and decided that one approach would be for Saudi Arabia to inflame tensions with Iran, then use that as a casus belli to attack Iran – and by extension Syria (and Hizballah) – in Syria, with the possibility of extending that war into Iran at some point.
The US and Israel has repeatedly tried to get a war with Syria going. They tried three UNSC Resolutions with Chapter 7 language in them. They tried military attacks from Turkey and Israel into Syria repeatedly. They tried the “chemical attacks” false flag operation (and still try them.) The US has bombed Syrian infrastructure and military bases. The US influenced Turkey to shoot down a Russian aircraft.
Trust me – they have not given up, despite the presence of Russia’s military. Both Israel and the US elites NEED a war with Iran. Until they are made to pay for that, they will be agitating for this with INPUNITY and eventually they will get what they want and NEED.
Russia, Iran, Syria and Hizballah need to understand this and conduct themselves accordingly. This is not paranoia, this is a straight forward analysis of the actual behavior of the US and Israel over the last several years and their obvious intentions.
Bang on! Precisely my fears as well. But you have already said it all!
It means that they will push the hands of Putin by engaging the Russian forces into an all-out war in Syria.The following question will be : what will do the Russians,their forces will be outnumbered and the further escalation will cause great problems for the decision makers in Moskau.How they will react,throwing a nuclear bomb ?
The new cold war just coming up to speed. The US will fight to the last vassal state.
In the light of this new political crisis that confronts Iran:
Is there any updated news on the S 300 anti aircraft missile systems being sent to Iran?
They were slated for delivery in January 2016, (and it is January 2016 – for 5 days now).
1. delivery?
2. setting up?
3. when will the S 300 anti-air systems be operational in Iran? (That is- set up, and manned by competent – trained crews?
Iran’s ability to control its airspace becomes ever more important.
They need their air defense to be at the highest level possible, ASAP.
I searched the Russian news sites, but saw no new information.
For the Democratic Republics!
Very good question. It would be nice to know the answer to it.
“Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Hossein Dehghan said in early November that Iran would get Russian S-300 air defense missile systems by March 2016”
Source: http://tass.ru/en/defense/838491
We will see…
It is probably too early to speculate whether a direct military intervention of SA in Syria would happen. The direct and visible result is that the peace process in Syria was killed. “An escalating dispute between Saudi Arabia and Iran is threatening to derail President Barack Obama’s efforts to bring an end to the civil war in Syria while also undermining the U.S.-led fight against the Islamic State terrorist network.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/iran-saudi-arabia-us-syria-217318#ixzz3wK14LqI6
In other words, US is announcing that the peace process is dead and the abandonment of any fight against Daesh, ISIS, ISIL.
Israel has prevailed and as usual, it did it through other hands. Now the secret alliance of Israel and SA can come into the open. “Saudi officials were particularly harsh, repeatedly calling Iran a sponsor of terrorism”. Netanyahu: “What is to be done against the Iranian threat, he said, is to bring down its global terror network”.
As it is the one with Turkey.
“Netanyahu and Erdogan need each other more than ever” (19 Dec) @http://972mag.com/netanyahu-and-erdogan-need-each-other-more-than-ever/114942/
“On Saturday, Erdogan – returning from an official trip to Saudi Arabia – told journalists that “Israel is in need of a country like Turkey in the region. We have to admit that we also need Israel.”
ttp://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-and-Turkey-need-each-other-Erdogan-says-439161.
(Erdogan asked for) “an end to the violations of the sanctity of al-Aqsa Mosque” . It will be done somehow because:
“Turkey-Israel dialogue works ‘miracle’ for Istanbul’s Jews”
Turkey’s Jews marked a milestone Dec. 13 with a public celebration of the Hanukkah holiday, said to be the first in the republic’s history after decades of Hanukkahs marked behind closed doors in synagogues or homes. Members of the tiny community took to the streets for the ceremony, as the tradition requires, lighting thousands of candles at Istanbul’s Ortakoy Square.”
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/12/turkey-jewish-community-hanukkah-marks-milestone.html#ixzz3wKDQeU3J
Would we see soon an emotional “discovery” of the common roots of Judaism and Islam? Of the common sacrality for Judaism and Islam of the “Temple” Mount?
Why not? Was not “one of the most influential European Muslims of the 20th century… Muhammad Asad, who “helped elucidate the intellectual premises of the future Islamic state”? And was not Muhammad Asad born Leopold Weiss (July 1900 – 20 February 1992), “a Jewish-born Austro-Hungarian journalist”, who started as an ardent Zionist, before converting to Islam, becoming the confidant of Ibn-Saud, and contributing to the foundation of KSA (while being a Bolshevik agent in the meantime) to the extent that he was dubbed “the Leopold of Arabia” (because he was undoing the work of Lawrence of Arabia)? He contributed a great deal to the foundation of Pakistan (where he served as Deputy Foreign Minister and Minister Plenipotentiary to UNO). His book ‘The Principles of State and Government in Islam’ is considered a fundamental book in establishing the principles of an “Islamic State”, ISIS included.
Have you read what he said in his books. I strongly doubt it. For one thing he argued that women should have full political rights. And should even be able to become PM’s in Islamic states. Not at all something that the IS or some other Wahhabi followers would agree with.
Gee whiz. Liberal Zionists n’ Wahhabis workin’ together. Who’s a thunk.
I suppose this is what’s promised by most eschatology. Now it’s Israel at the head with Saudi and Turkey as the body and tail.
I commend the Saker for his insight and analysis. The Saudis and their cohorts are indeed pushing for a foreseeable outcome; war. It is highly likely that they will choose Syria as its theatre because, as the Saker argues, they truly have no other options.
The irony is that those same elements have given the “War On Syria” their best shot for nearly five years, and they have failed. What is it that makes them believe they are going to be successful now with Russia on the scene defies all logic and sound military planning.
The problem is that the Saudis and their cohorts are not rational people, and irrational people make irrational moves.
Moreover, Erdogan had never been closer to Al-Saud. They seem to have put their leadership rivalries aside driven by need. Back in Sep 13, Prince Bandar failed to coerce the US into direct military intervention in Syria, it us possible now that Erdogan now thinks that he can get NATO to take the bait.
Either way, these are very uncertain days and for as long as nuts like Al-Saud and Erdogan are in power, we cannot expect much wisdom coming out of Ankara and Riyadh.
When I think about the audience for this little drama, I question whether anything much has actually happened with this execution in Saudi Arabia and the subsequent burning of the Saudi embassy in Iran. Consider this: regardless of whether either Shiites or Sunnis are in play, not all that much will change. In either case, learned and perhaps religiously casual folks are not going to be aroused since they know this is nothing more than a reflection already existing reality.
Unlearned and perhaps religiously zealous folks may well have emotional reactions, but what might those reactions be? These latter ones would be likely to react strongly to the killing of one of “their own” religious leaders, even if the leader is not extremely prominent. But even these unlearned and perhaps religiously zealous people are not likely to become too excited by the torching of an embassy. To them, embassies are presumably merely nests for boring, faceless, well-paid bureaucrats.
So while this episode may clarify certain “lines in the sand”, and cause some pointless ceremony, they may not change any of the unfortunate realities of the situation.
Head of the GRU Igor Sergun, only 58 years old dies suddenly.
Any comments? Any Russian speakers with connections to their homeland know more about what happened here?
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26476.5/3347577/
He died at age 58 after a heart attack
Sunday afternoon, January 3, died the chief of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the General staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Deputy chief of the General staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, General – Colonel, candidate of military Sciences Igor Sergun.
He passed away after a massive heart attack at 59 th year of life. The President of Russia Vladimir Putin expressed condolences to the family and friends of military intelligence.
“…the murder by the Saudi Wahabis of Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr and 46 other Shia was a deliberately planned provocation. …”
I maybe mistaken but I believe that the vast majority of those executed in this massive headchopping were sunni and that less than 10 were shia.
Are you just naive, or what…?
It is best to deal with facts. The analysis does not depend on the victims being largely shia. If it did the analysis would be flawed, but in this case the analysis stands.
You probably regard honesty as irrelevant: if so you are wrong. Let us leave distortions and misrepresentations to the experts in the media owned by the warmongers. Here we can be frank and scrupulous. By being so we will earn the trust of the people who are sick of being cheated and lied to by their rulers and the ideologues working for them.
One thing is to deal in facts and another one to twist the facts.
Yes,4 were Shia according to RT. And the others were mostly Al Qaeda operatives the Saudis captured over the last years on terrorism charges. Its believed they included Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr in the group to try and make it seem he was a terrorist too.
well, I mean look at what this murder of one prominent shi’ite has done to the ME…why even question this ? Its a ridiculous topic…what are you saying Bevin ? That Sauds didn’t actually offend the Shi-ite world ?
I guess on a scale, you could put that one Shi’ite Cleric on one side, and the other 100 sunnis terrorists on the other side, and boom…you can see the results yourself..what’s to clarify ?
Propelled by US and Israeli backing, and imbued by hubris and arrogance, the House of Saud will very soon overreach itself and be dealt a long delayed, but crushing and humiliating blow by the Islamic Republic.
The Saudis have been provocative and reckless in their conduct through the region and especially vis-à-vis Iran. It is only because of the maturity, steadfastness and boundless wisdom of Iran’s leaders why Tehran has not long ago lashed out and smash the faces of these pampered fools, who continue to defame Islam and hire mercenaries to fight their battles.
They were behind the bombing of Iran’s embassy in Beirut in November, 2013 when Ebrahim Ansari, Iran’s cultural attaché and 22 others were killed and their bloody fingerprints were again to be found when in October 2015,well over 200 Iranian Hajj pilgrims,including senior military and political officials were killed and a similar number injured during a yet to be explained ”deadly crush” in Mina, near the holy city of Mecca.
They tried to torpedo the JCPOA concluded in July 2015, between Iran and P5+1 and the European Union, and they have been the chief culprits responsible for the low price of oil on the world market because of their desire to undermine Iran and Russia.The list go on and on, but you get the gist.
Now running a budget deficit of $98Bil. and forced to reduce or remove subsidies at home, and finding Yemen a quagmire and Syria slipping away as each day passes the House of Saud has become desperate. The House of Saud is living on borrowed time, because with or without, US backing, it is destined to be defeated.
As the Supreme leader said yesterday; ”divine vengeance will befall ” them……
The year 2016 will be the Year of Chaos thanks to the Craizy Natoists
Dear The Saker,
I wonder what you mean when you call a “country” crazy? I would like to hear more about it.
Thank you,
I remain your friend,
Nasir
@Nasir
Wonder away.
The Saker has more pressing issues than your comprehension ‘difficulties.’
KSA, together with other countries on Arabic peninsula, are pushed into this conflict in order to be “relieved” of its wealth and a bad image (inhumane, undemocratic, feudal) it gives western countries that support it.
Why? Seems to me that slowly collapsing western economies do need fresh sources of financing to postpone that reckoning date, but the emerging powers, China, Russia, Brazil and India are no more willing to lend any significant amount, in other words, they refuse to buy any significant amount of western debt securities. They have done that in the past and now can’t get rid of it except by paying substantial penalties.
Hence, I see this conflict as *controlled demolition* of KSA which will result , first of all , in the purchase of weapons, ammunition, mercenaries and other military and security equipment, enriching those well positioned to cash on immediate Saudi survival needs. This, in fact, is happening right now.
Next, I foresee the eventual collapse of house of Saud, either by local wahabies IS, local coup d’etat, or even color revolution, with potential partitioning of Arabian peninsula. New pseudo-democratic or Islamic government (s) will be installed followed by the real (but invisible) takeover of its oil and gas fields by western banks/oil companies, for pennies on the dollar. And that source of wealth is what will stabilize western economies for few more years.
Regards, Spiral
Not really. The strategy is to isolate Iran economically, two days ago the US government announced sanctions for Iran’s ballistic missile system. Any comments on this?
If you talk about Iranian forces, then you have to talk about saudi forces, turkish forces and nato forces inside syria.. There are NO iranian military forces inside syria. The Russian forces which would be only foreign military force with its own personal and command. The IRGC militia advisors only have power due to the Islamic head of state and would be like saying the US special forces are the US military. Even Hezbollah is just a militia force with the Iraqi militia and much smaller iranian militia and afghan militia..
And the biggest news of all that is not reported, Russia has taken command of SDF.. So guess we have a Russian force now as well with all the rest of the riff raff..
Minor news…
How Hezbollah has managed to infiltrate an area inside Shabaa Farms, between 4 israeli observation positions and plant a fresh IEDs?
Hezbollah militia were dressed to break Israel infra red cameras, heat cameras and other electronic devices, plant 25kg of explosive. Managed to break the borders when Israel is taking heavy precautions, deployment and return safely.
Hezbollah took advantage of the weather and fog in a heavily guarded area, when it is expected by Israel to launch an attack…
https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/684024375939624964
Major news about chickens with their heads cut off..
14 ISIS suicide attacks in Anbar & Salahoddine provinces in Iraq against ISF.
RuAF now provides air support to not only SAA but SDF and NDF…
ANNA news report from Shiekh Maqsud District Aleppo SDF
https://t.co/yaLds6I9SJ
Heavy bombardment of Shaykh Maskin Darra
https://t.co/JGZdVaWTO8
RuAF bombs trucks in Azaz, logistics center for turkish command in n.syria, near Turkey border.
https://t.co/XzcwrbQQxM
If turkey enters Syria.. I bet RuAF will provide air support to YPG/SDF to expel the turks.. Now that the SDF falls under Russian command. This must have been the most important deal Putin worked out with the “uncircumcised geezer” (I think IS spokesman is wrong on this since many Americans are circumcised and does not have anything to do with being a jew or muslim)…..
And breaking news…
Putin tricked SA to behead 47 shia freedom fights in SA, 15 SDF members in Syria, killed 5 IS Trolls boys in Raqa and caused 14 IS suicide bombers in Iraq… Its all Putin’s fault for not staying home and being good little orthodox boy..
WTF news of the day…
Bahrain Revokes Citizenships of Persian Descendants
That would be much of the Bahraini population I believe.
“So for all the conciliatory words of Biden & Co. in Moscow, it appears that the AngloZionists are, yet again, doubling down and going yet on another offensive.”
The Israelis need Syria as their own, they will keep sending in their quislings. The only real cure to all this war making and terrorism is the dissolution of israel, and neutralization of their zionist allies and servants worldwide.
hey vt…first we have to win the information war, before we can possibly take down Israhell…most people still believe its a by-stander…
MOSCOW (AP) — Russia’s Defense Ministry says the head of the military’s main intelligence service, Col.-Gen. Igor Sergun, has died at age 58.
A ministry statement said he died suddenly on Sunday, but gave no further information on the cause of death or where it occurred.
The military intelligence service, widely known by the acronym GRU, is believed to be Russia’s largest foreign intelligence operation. Ukraine has alleged that soldiers connected with the GRU have taken part in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, where government forces and Russia-backed separatists have been fighting since April 2014.
Sergun was appointed to head the GRU in 2011. Previously, the career officer had been Russia’s military attache in Tirana, Albania.
He is survived by his wife and two daughters, Russian news reports said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3384205/Head-Russias-military-intelligence-dies.html
So they caught another special forces operative in Syria…
https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/683642849368354817
I’m reasonably confident that Russia is advising Iran to ‘keep its powder dry’ and not respond further to this desperate provocation. The goal is a unified Shia crescent and that is becoming a fait accompli despite the bumps along the way. Iran must play the long game and its leadership realizes this.
I do see Iran probably not committing any more heavily in Syria as a result of this provocation. That is a real but not insurmountable consequence. If Iran acts prudently, this could be a tempest in a teapot. It’s not ‘nothing’, but doesn’t have to be a serious escalation. Let’s hope cooler heads prevail and this thing has a short shelf life.
Saudis are a conglomerate of tribal factions who are always thinking of ways to kill and steal from each other. They are glued together by oil resources (near or at peak) and a barely functioning nationalist ideology that pimps Islam. It is an ultra corrupt regime with the worst elements of western style institutions combined with the harsher elements of sharia law. Thus it is little more than lunatic medieval theme park that is now clearly in its demise.
It is facing simultaneous attacks from Yemen and has faced ongoing attacks from Islamic State. Saudi military has failed and is only capable of mass internal purges using its death squads. This coalition of theirs will only exist in print, border protection, and maybe a few joint exercises, but will do little else. Saudis are more paranoid than ever and killing both Sunni and Shia Muslims.
It is possible for Saudi to attack Iran but unlikely. It is far easier for Iran, Yemen, IS, etc to take down Saudis. Yemen has already begun attacking Saudi oil Infrastructure. Islamic State has already assassinated key military officials, and provoked Saudis into building a worse than worthless maginot line (Northern wall). There have also been several attacks on Abqaiq (holy grail of targets) but have been unsuccessful. In any case the targets are clear and just waiting to be destroyed/shut off/captured. Whoever does so will win.
US and NATO will do nothing except show of force and hot air. There will be no attack on Iran directly or indirectly. The “impending attack on Iran” theme has been ongoing for nearly a decade and has done nothing except generate profits for the hysteria industry. With all of US’s enemies in possession of Snowden’s secrets, along with all other kinds of information, it is nearly guaranteed that the US will stand down. And that assumes that it even has a military to do so. It doesn’t. Only remnants remain while the rest of its military burns itself out.
The Saudi-led anti-terror coalition seems like rubbish. The Saudis already have a coalition fighting in Yemen and that war is going poorly for them to the point that they have to scrounge extra cannon fodder from Mauritania and Senegal. Furthermore, most of the members of that coalition can do little more than contribute token infantry contingents. The only serious military powers in that coalition are Egypt, Turkey and Pakistan. The Egyptian army is not going to give a big boost to jihadis in Syria when it is fighting the same enemy at home. Turkey’s ability to reinforce its proxies in Syria is increasingly limited by the civil war breaking out within its own borders and that Russia has not been deterred by the shooting down of the Su-24 from continuing to bomb those proxies near the Turkey-Syria border. As for Pakistan, that country has made barely nominal contributions to the war in Yemen despite formally being part of the Saudi-led coalition fighting the Houthis. Given its own large Shia minority as well as its alliance with China, I do not see Pakistan coming to the rescue of the jihadi proxies in Syria in any way.
In short, the KSA is in crisis. The royal family is ridden with internal conflict to the point that the current King decided to sideline other factions by making his rather inexperienced son Defence Minister. KSA’s economy is sinking fast as it cannot escape the consequences of sustained low oil prices. As for the Islamic State, while the Saudis have certainly supported them, I suspect that other powers in the Western coalition now have more influence with that entity. Certainly the Saudis could not have wanted the Islamic State to proclaim a Caliphate and thereby challenge their own claims to rule Mecca and Medina. Finally, the war in Yemen shows the incompetence of the Saudi military at such a critical time.
Therefore, the Saudis probably did intend for these executions to provoke Iran and thereby try to compel rally Sunni Muslim and Western allies around them so as to bolster their own failing sense of security. The trouble is, it does not seem to be working with their Western allies given how the mainstream Western media is covering the situation. The US is more likely to let the conflict simmer as a means of leverage with both Iran and KSA rather than firmly take the Saudi side. We should remember that Ralph Peter’s map of a reorganized Middle East amenable to US leadership into the future involves a dismantled Saudi Arabia.
Great Analysis Saker. This is a deliberate provocation from Saudi Arabia to incite Iran and the Shias. I think the Grand plan is to ferment a Shia-Sunni civil war. Zionists want to pit all Sunnis(not only wahhabis) against the Shias. I hope Iran is sensible enough not to fall into Trap.
That many of the executions were of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula members also shows the KSA’s desperation. After all, KSA could not very well only execute the Shia cleric and give some lighter punishment to the Al-Qaeda types. However, since the beginning of their Yemen war, KSA had essentially made up with Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula for the common cause of fighting the Houthis. In killing the Al-Qaeda members, KSA probably gambled that more trouble with their own radicals might be worth the extra foreign support that they were hoping to generate. But if I am correct in that the foreign support they mobilize is much less than hoped for, then their situation is only getting worse.
HA! did you see the al queda jail? Swimming pool sauna, billiard tables, library, entertainment system.. carpeted floors.. They call it a rehabilitation center…
Hi Saker, yes, this is a troubling and sudden ‘change’ to the ME problems…and I also have absolutely no doubt that this was all planned by the Anglo-Zionists…its what they excel in – more than anything else – and have been doing it for a century at least.
I wish the Muslim world – I mean the people of the Muslim countries, would realize that they are being used horribly…but their part of the world has been so de-stabilized for so long, that they are angry anyway, and this is like a pressure valve…
I suppose its even possible in the long range planning of the mason/zionists that Muslims have always been looked on as the perfect ‘bomb’ and that’s partly why their countries have been so damaged by the whites of England and USA and Israel … because any decent brown skinned jew, knows its not the Jews, its the Zionists/Masons from England that started all this. And then Poland got into the mix too…
That train has left the station.
Iran does not want a substantial economic relationship with the US.
It is already making multiple deals with other countries – the Euroweenies are practically clambering over each other in an attempt to get a slice of the action. (This reality makes a NATO action even less likely without exposing its internal divisions.)
That was the only reason they permitted the farce of the ‘nuclear’ deal. (They are in reality committed to non-proliferation, unlike their arch-enemy Israel.)
And of course the unfreezing of a 100b in bank accounts. (It will be interesting to see what’s actually happened to that money – which I suspect will unearth a pretty kettle of fish. In fact, I wonder how much of the current escalation is connected to that issue?)
The UN lifting of sanctions means that any re-instatement of sanctions will have to be done on a national, not international basis.
The US sanctions will not hurt the Iranian state’ economic interests – only individuals/businesses.
In real life is always the anvil that break the hammer.
Not sure that it would be in US interest to favor Russia by spiking the oil price after all their efforts to the contrary. Flooding Syria with more Daeshbag rats is doable but a situation Syria and it´s allies can handle.
The logistics of the suggested operation however requires an open warfare by several states or at least Turkey and Jordan. Mullah Erdogan´s Turkey has already cornered itself by its incredible stupid handling in the aftermaths of having stabbed Russia in the back, further jihadist stupidities of suggested magnitudes will render Turkey a pariah state. It also requires an active US involvement but once over the border The Turkish neo-ottomans and its various death squads will find themselves internationally, except enthusiastic support from the planet-of-the-apes, wahhabi monarchies in the gulf, alone. Alone against a Russia committed to protect Syria.
Jordan & King Playstation committed itself to “fight against terrorism” while Lavrov visited them recently but continues, as everybody knows, to facilitate the traffic of weapon and Daeshbags over the border as long as israel and US say so. That is to be expected but further than that, nothing.
Albeit somewhat planned, what the Saudi Barbarians did was an ill-thought, irrational and impulsive but predictable act out of desperation that finally certainly will bring themselves down.
All spotlights on US &Turkey then…
Its interesting about Jordan. Jordan is a totally artificial state.More than half its population is of people with a Palestinian background. Expelled by,or fleeing from,the Israelis,over the years. And the rest are mostly Arab tribal peoples that inhabit the desert areas of all the surrounding states,Syria,Iraq,Saudi Arabia. The Western parts of the Kingdom were cut off by the British as a state for their allied King from territory of ancient Palestine. Joined with the Eastern taken from the surrounding region of Syria. While for about a 100 years the Kings of that family have been vassals, of first the British, and now the US Empires. But they were originally from the Hijaz region (Mecca) of today’s Saudi Arabia. And the Saudis expelled them and seized the area in the early 1920’s. So “theoretically”,if the al-Saud family was “de-throned” .And if “Saudi” Arabia still wanted to be a monarchy. The Jordanian,House of Hashim,has a claim to the throne.They are certainly less brutal than the al-Saud (and somewhat less corrupt). It would be interesting at least.Maybe that might be a way to spread a bit of disunity among the pro-US forces. For the Iranians or Syrians to “mention” that the Hashimites were the “true” dynasty that should rule. It wasn’t that many years ago that the al-Saud and Hashimites,hated each other and were deadly enemies. I’m sure there is some of that old hatred “just below the surface” still.
That maybe so, and Abdullah has a photogenic Kuwaiti-born Palestinian wife (used the extensive media effect to keep the population’s mind off poverty, injustice and the region-wide reasons for same.)
He is essentially a pawn of the British Empire – still very much a player in the control of oil in the region.
He has plenty of real estate in Britain too.
So he won’t do anything to jeopardize his essentially wealthy and comfortable life.
Jordan would only became an ally of Iran if he was deposed and an anti-Israeli group came to power.
I think the attack on the Saudi Embassy was the one planned & not the execution of the Shia Cleric & 46 other Sunni Al Qaeda terrorists! The execution was bound to happen its jus a question of when! This is the problem with Iran & most Shia’s they make it a sectarian divide, Sunni vs. Shia! Saudi is not a Wahabi state as most of you think! I know because I worked & lived there for two years! Iran saw an opportunity to export their so called “Islamic Revolution” by instigating unrest in Bahrain & Eastern Saudi but was crushed by Saudi & other Gulf States! Same what is happening in Yemen Houthis getting crushed! I think Saudi’s reaction is fair enough, Iran has been terrible at “protecting” foreign Embassies! Now tell me what country will not cut diplomatic ties if your embassy has been burned eh?! Saudi & Other Gulf States had enough of Iranian meddling and now is the time to confront each other! Enough of the Proxy wars in Syria, Iraq & Yemen! Let Saudi & Iran collide & we will see who is better!!!
Well, JR, if you’re going to tell a Big Lie, it’s best to tell a string of them so they can keep each other company. You over-achieved.
Kind of invading Yemen because Iran was supplying weapons.. What about the weapons the US supplied for a decade? Like Iraq there are so many weapons in Yemen that you could sink the country if you load any more weapons on it. Also why the Iraqi’s did not need any foreign help with weapons..
As far as I am aware Russia has not yet officially announced that ISIS had anything to do with the Sinai disaster – Personally I think it was the Saudi’s.
Russia has just overtaken SA as China’s biggest supplier of oil – US is buying less oil from SA as well.
Some well timed sanctions against SA by Russia and China, pending announcement of their involvement in the Sinai disaster – would effectively finish SA off – The US sees no further use for the SAUDIS anyway !
Dear The Saker
I am sad right now. I can’t believe a president we voted through “promise to bring change and integrity” to government is a religious bigot and a puppet too. As a former military ruler, President Muhammadu Buhari of Nigeria sure knows the pros and cons of government, but I do not know why he chose to be part of the KSA evil alliance instead of taking a non aligned stance which is what Nigeria’s foreign policy has always been about? By the way Iran has now issued Nigeria an ultimatum to release Sheikh El Zakzacky of face serious consequences. Normally, I don’t think the Nigerian Army should release the Shia leader because of a “threat” from Iran but the Nigerian Army shouldn’t have arrested him and killed over 300 of his followers on behalf of the Wahabists. Nigeria, still battling with Boko Haram in the Northern Region and secessionist movement in the South East and a possible resurrection of militants in the South South region, why would the government place the country in such a bloody and tricky war against Iran? It is either the President cluesless, or scared of the West or just being anti-Iran because of his own religious ideologies. Either ways, the President of Nigeria is has made Nigeria a Wahabi puppet and placed the country in a war we sure cannot win. The major problem lies with Nigerians though, as we are very arrogant and unaware of political events and their implications on our society. This problem is not only attributed to the African continent as a whole, their by resistance to such actions are weak because the people are unaware. It would be nice to see The Saker’s expand one day where it can have a channel that focuses on Africa.
The problem is that your president is an AngloZionist puppet manipulated into power to cover up the coming plunder of your mineral and energy resources, the privatisation and sale of govt parastatals to western big business, and the destruction of your agricultural and industrial base plus export potential so that Nigeria’s 180 million strong population can become net importers of western goods that EU people will not buy; such as GMO based foods and banned cancer causing drugs. They are trying to do this throughout Africa and have just succeeded in installing another puppet in Tanzania. However, the experiment has failed in politically aware Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda and South Africa.
Boko Haram is an ISIS affiliate and another CIA creation weaponized and funded via Saudi Arabia. South African mercenaries had managed to rout and send Boko on the run under the previous President Jonathan, only for Buhari to cancel their contract on assuming office. Now why do that, except to save Boko Haram from being destroyed?
The beastly Empire and its lackeys are on the warpath, no strategy will avert this, it can only be delayed but at what cost? The inevitability of this must conclude one to act in a pro-active manner, as Mr. Putin has stated and I will paraphrase here (If you know it is coming hit first) I firmly believe that the time is near. The Russian alliance has adopted a delaying strategy similar to the one used against Nazi Germany and in my opinion this may have been an unfortunate necessity but now as then it will only embolden the cowards who strongly lack intestinal fortitude. In my estimation (disclaimer: I am not privy to all the relevant info so my assessment may be incomplete) delaying the inevitable only makes the situation and its ramifications magnified as the Soviet Union can testify (27 million dead and a hair trigger away from total loss). Any war is terrible and I do not advocate this in any way but I firmly believe that any further retreat will only cause what is being avoided to come all the sooner and stronger like struggling in quick sand. Maybe by fully engaging the war pigs now (it may already be too late) they just might back down and run to their mommies thus diminishing the disaster. In conclusion it is my belief that the delaying strategy is only exacerbating the crisis; the demented to not require a pretext to intervene but they are testing the Russian resolve and so far they are building up their courage, in other words the opposite effect of what is desired, the Russian alliance is fully falling into their trap as of now instead of avoiding it.
In french part of Switzerland on official radio (RSR) and free daily newspaper (20mn) for some days we begin to read or listen very negative comment about Saudi Arabia. The same today on french free press 20mn (http://www.20minutes.fr/monde/1759939-20160105-crise-iran-arabie-saoudite-erreur-occidentaux-continuer-soutenir-ryad)
Does the wind turn in right direction???
Yes, it does seem the wind is blowing in that direction. Western media are too well synchronised for this to be accidental.
The New York Times is a major U.S. establishment mouthpiece, and if they print something, you can be assured it faithfully reflects the views of the Imperial ruling circles.
Well, on Monday, 4 January 2016, they printed: U.S. in a Bind as Saudi Actions Test a Durable Alliance, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/05/us/politics/us-struggles-to-explain-alliance-with-saudis.html .
Perhaps too good to be true, but here it is. Wait and see how far it will actually go.
I think the Saudis want to isolate Iran. By themselves they can’t do much so they need to persuade others– the West, Sunnis, to go after Iran. These executions will hopefully backfire on them; after all, they are the ones who have shed blood.
The further east you go NATO-wise, the more corrupt, criminal and downright mafiosa the politicians become -Bulgaria being the poster boy for post-Soviet degradation and NATO membership.
The further West, the better the underlying thieving/criminality is disguised: its politicized as ‘security threat.’
But the populations of those countries are very hostile to NATO, which, in turn, has a bad effect on command-and-control.
The extent to which the US can act unilaterally within its NATO guise is being increasingly hampered by ongoing revelations of criminal ops to destabilize nation-states at the service of transnational oil, gas and other cartels.
The Ukraine coup has opened many peoples eyes to the criminal underbelly of hitherto ‘respectable’ institutions.
All of which can lead to subversion/sabotage within NATO itself.
That NATO is effectively the ‘attack dog’ for the global plutocracy is impossible to conceal any longer.
We will be hearing more from whistleblowers soon.
The Sunni-majority Muslim countries, at least the ones with military capacity, don’t seem eager to rack up the confrontation with Iran on account of KSA at this time. Mr. Bhradakumar has a good article in this regard.
http://atimes.com/2016/01/saudi-iran-rift-is-a-matter-of-embarrassment-to-muslim-world/
Scratch everything that arises from “perfect excuse” or “justifies.”
There is only one justification for war, and that is self-defense against a war of aggression launched against yourself.
That is a war of aggression, not a raid, an incursion, an act of terrorism, an insult, a domestic atrocity, an economic inconvenience, a breach of contract, or a breach of international law other than the law against wars of aggression . . . see Kiev’s daily complaints for a list of things which do not justify war. The two nuclear bombs she claimed Russia had used against Ukrainian territory would justify war, but Ukraine keeps forgetting that it helps if your “perfect excuse” is true.
Trudeau’s Canadian honeymoon continues as they take the $15B Saudi blood-money…
Stephane Dion Stands By $15 B Saudi Arms Deal After Executions
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stephane-dion-saudi-arms-deal-1.339084
“What is done is done and the contract is not something that we’ll revisit,’ Dion says.”
Israel, Saudi Arabia, Ukraine, USA – you can tell a lot about a country by their ‘friends’ eh?
Interesting that they use “a contract” as the basis for saying they can’t (won’t) stop selling arms to SA. And yet just a few months ago NATO (including especially Canada) was telling the French ,” Contract ???,who cares about some stinking contract. You need to just cancel the Mistral sale to Russia,contract be damned.” If they wanted to stop the arms sales to SA,they would. All that other BS,is just that,BS for the public.
You can’t expect too much from the Canadian Liberals. They are not quite like the Dem/Repub ‘two sides of the same coin’ but not so far off. A small improvement over Harper’s nastiness -so far.
From the CBC that still has that odious Harper influence at the top:
“”Further deepening of strategic relations with the Gulf Co-operation Council (GCC) countries would serve Canadian commercial and possibly security interests,” the memo states, pointing to Saudi Arabia as the leading player in the six-country bloc that includes the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman and Qatar.
“Current bilateral engagement includes a particular focus on Saudi Arabia and the UAE,” it says. “Saudi Arabia is a regional power, the only Arab country in the G20. It is a key contributor to global energy security and Canada’s largest trading partner in the region.”
and from Harper’s Baird the Bloviator:
“But former foreign affairs minister John Baird said in a separate interview with Barton that the multi-billion dollar deal has merit.
Baird said while Canada and Saudi Arabia “share many different values” there are also common interests. There’s an economic interest linked to the deal, he said, but also a shared interest in security as the battle against the Islamic State continues.
“I’d sign it again today,” Baird said of the deal, which will support manufacturing jobs in Ontario”
The actual writing of the Canadian law prevents the sale of stuff that could be used against civilians in the recipient country. There’s lots of weasel ways around such a stipulation but if an increasingly financially drained but belligerent Saudi uses these vehicles against its population then public opinion may constrain future deliveries.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stephane-dion-saudi-arms-deal-1.3390854
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-advised-to-deepen-ties-with-saudi-arabia-brace-for-change-in-iran-1.3394669
That as “take the money and run” while the Saudis still have cash to dish out.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/one-chart-that-shows-which-middle-eastern-countries-could-run-out-of-money-in-less-than-five-years-a6709511.html
Besides, its bombs that are doing the most killing in Yemen. Saudis/Saudi mercenaries in Yemen are cannon fodder who seem to be losing on a regular basis. LAVs would probably get them killed faster.
Former PM Harper completed a deal that effectively sold the Canadian Wheat Board to the Saudis; that’s far more serious regime support at Canadian expense.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/us-saudi-firms-to-buy-former-canadian-wheat-board/article23966156/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/water-poor-saudi-arabia-invests-in-canadian-wheat-boards-grain/article23997819/
Saudi-Iranian spat: Another skirmish in the oil war
Pepe Escobar
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/328097-oil-saudi-iran-war-crisis/
Very true. On thing is sure, the arabo islamic pattern of the middle-east is disintegrating hopefully for a laic concept of the world. There is no place for a minority hegemony in that part of the world, jewish, christian or muslims, and there never was, that is precisely what makes the strength of these populations.
let’s hope they do escalate as every NATO move resulted in a tremendous backfire. Al Bagdadi recently proclaimed Israel as an enemy so….any support that goes to Daesh no matter how disguised and which is illegal under UN resolutions as well-this will cause them even more problems. And the crazy neocons will jump on why are we supporting KSA when they are supporting Daesh who is agaisnt Israel. If they don’t their supporters will they are still demaning the 28 missing pages on KSA and 9/11. Looks like Republican Party is imploding as well. Plus KSA has to deal with their impending civil war as does Turkey-looks like the promise of One Big Stalingrad for Turkey was real…..the Big news is Iran and India conducting trade in their national currencies just announced. Perhaps in response to NATO lol Now I would be shaking in my boots over this. The NSR will be a reality and the principles on which it is being developed …..human resources alone are going to leave the West in the 18th century where it is now ideologically and politically speaking. To bad they have 21st century technology. And Japan wants a peace treaty with Russia Oh well as Mr Putin says, if a fight is inevitable, Strike First!
Any mention of a nfz by nato is off the wall. Syria now has and has been trained to operate Russian missile defence. Go ahead make my day!
RR
An attack on Iran is an attack on Moscow and an attack on Tel Aviv as well. By Iran. Shoot your other foot off. Go ahead.
Cheers,
RR
Those who think NATO and it’s proxies can carry out their plans with impunity did not get the memo: “This state of affairs can no longer stand” Clear Enough? US will dump KSA for a quarters worth of profit on Wall Street selling fracked oil and worry about the bust the second quarter. They don’t call them the Empire of Chaos for nothing. The designers of such a strategy have not war planned this enough with the proper variables. The only ones with impunity right now are those who have Russian air defence systems at their disposal. Iran Syria China and Russia. They are the only countries that can act with impunity. Thank God they do not.
RR