Gonzalo says that what is happening in Lysychansk right now will be a catastrophe and a rout. 15,000 Ukrainians have no chance to win and survival is also unlikely for large numbers of them.
I think that the UKR forces on the ground understand this and that is why we are seeing so many videos and statements of various companies surrendering. The Bully ordering these forces to remain in place, is directed by the Empire of Lies.
The impunity of the West to commit unspeakable acts needs to end.
The cauldron was not mentioned in Zone A news, but a civilian airliner was shot down (perhaps in an effort to demand a cease fire), and that catastrophe made the news. Destruction of the airliner was blamed on Putin, without evidence. Russian language BBC did a news story on it, in which local residents were interviewed. Their personal accounts contradicted the official narrative, and the video soon disappeared without a trace.
It would not surprise me to see a huge surrender this time, in this cauldron.
The reality is beginning to dawn on the West.
23-05-22. US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley hosted an online meeting with counterparts from 44 countries in a bid to drum up more donations of equipment to Ukraine. Symbolically, all the Ukrainian flag behind the speaker podium was place upside down.
Military trained people know it means that “the fort or Nation” has fallen into the hands of the enemy. https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/05/26/pentagon-ukrainian-flags/
26-05-22 Alex Christoforou´s daily podcast confirms my claim that European NATO Nations are drawing down their own defense capabilities, in order to support Ukraine with weapons, and that NATO weapons producers are not able to fill the gab for years.
This has now led to quarrel between Germany and Poland. Take a look at 30:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1h0vFXDByA
26-05-22. Scott Ritter was once again on the Judge Napolitano show.
This time “specifying” that Russia is definitively winning this war. Watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGJUozB3og
In the meantime the owners of the West have sent the Agent Henry Kissinger to Davos with the message to Ukraine to seek peace with Russia by surrendering territory.
Judging by the change in narrative:
We may soon see the remaining NAZI hardcore in Kiev migrating towards Das Vaterland.
And Zelensky going to Hollywood starring in the new Blockbuster: 666 days in Kiev
Good points however: From memory I think you’re conflating the two defeats of Ukrainian forces that each led to Minsk I and then Minsk II agreements.
The Malaysian MH17 passenger jet was shot down the first time apparently to stop the fighting as DPR & LPR had surrounded thousands of Ukrainian troops to the east of Donetsk & Lugansk cities along the Russian border which allegedly had artillery fire from Russian forces. Thousands Ukrainian troops surrendered both to the republics and crossing border into Russia. All regular non-Nazi soldiers were soon released home to Ukraine. The remaining surrounded troops with higher % of neo-Nazi battalions were facing annihilation but got out after ceasefire due to shooting down MH17 – as the eye witnesses interviewed by the quickly censored BBC report said – by warplanes & no sign of a BUK missile at least from the villagers under the plane where the West accused DPR/LPR of firing one.
Debaltsevo was another cauldron many months to a year or so later that routed Ukrainian forces attempting to break through between Gorlovka & Lugansk into Debaltsevo. A perceived weak point where Ukraine hopped to divide the LPR from DPR for strategic reasons. Poroshenko conceded defeat more or less by signing Minsk II and the conflict became generally ‘frozen’ – apart from mostly daily occasional shelling and sniping against mostly civilians by Ukrainian forces, mainly by their neo-Nazi battalions.
Until about August 2021, after the Rada in Kiev formally reneged on Minsk II and Ukraine (with NATO advisors & trainers) started to amass an invasion force of ~60 to 100k troops (reports vary but footage of trains full of tanks & artillery pieces were shown for months on Twitter & Telegram by pro-Ukrainian accounts) and assembled thousands tanks & heavy artillery along the front line, then a massive bombardment from 16 February 2022 killing many people in DPR & LPR, Zelensky vowing to get Nukes & definitely join NATO about 20 February. Feints to test DPR & LNR defences by tank columns around 22 February that were driven back or tactically retreated after drawing fire by LPR & DPR forces.
Russia started amassing troops and heavy artillery & tanks from about November 2021 and recognised DPR & LNR as independent nations & formed formal military alliance ~21 February 2022 thus formally ending Minsk agreement. Interestingly Ukrainian bombardment ceased for 12 hours or so as probably commanders in Ukraine argued whether to press ahead with plans to blitzkrieg DPR & LPR or not because this meant obvious war with Russia now.
Presumably orders from NATO via Zelensky came through to press on and by 23 February massive artillery bombardment resumed.
Russia warned NATO of military retaliation in December 2021 if NATO didn’t stop supporting this aggression on Donbas and negotiate new wider security agreements, Russia was rebuked by Jens Stoltenberg head of NATO who said Russia has no right to ask for any reduction in NATO advancement.
Russia therefore launched preemptive attack to thwart Ukrainian invasion Donbas on 24 February 2022. With wider plans to demilitarisation and denazification off Ukraine – and as Lavrov admitted in interview with Indian media – to stop NATO establishing a no fly zone in Ukraine but for Russia to preempt with its own no fly zone.
Zelenski talked about calling in 1 million more. When these are killed, there are more 1 million people behind. Women and big children soldiers can also be used. Ukraine has 40 million inhabitants.
One day Russia will give up and realize they lost the war because they cannot kill millions. It will not look good on the Russian CV in the history books…………………???
we are near capitulation of the troops on their own – listening to Zel is coming to an end
Z and the uSA will be blamed for the slaughter in the long term – if 15,000-25,000 are eradicated
it would be good in a sad way for the uSA to press for the death of Uki’s – because it will show they will murder anyone in the world for their blood lust and power
there will be no new recruits – Z has no credibility except to recruit – $$$$$ – for 50% back to the good guys
A lot of these ukies probably want to stop fighting, but are afraid to surrender because of repercussions. The smart ones will simply get themselves ‘captured’ without putting up a fight and live.
The UK and US regimes have killed millions of their own people over the last 2 years. Do you really think they give a toss about the lives of any Ukrainians? These globalists are psychopathic monsters. They will use every opportunity to impose their brutal NWO.
So what’s the problem? Let them die, it’s a win-win situation! Who cares about 15,000 Nazis. We’ve had enough of Nazis since 1938. There should be an open season on Nazis, with no legal consequences for heads of those useless eaters.
It’s sad but the demons that have taking hold of the Ukraine government is designed to destroy it in record time. Sad to see the western puppet Zelenskyy acting this way without regard for the people of Ukraine.
Zelensky never cared about anyone but himself. He sold out his country to the US (treason – a capital offense) in exchange for a pile of money and a performance on the big stage.
The CIA has been grooming Zelensky for years. His offshore accounts were disclosed in the Panama Papers in 2016, years before his CIA sponsored “election” in Ukraine and only 1 year into his TV series. It is likely that his TV show ‘Servant of the People’ was produced with no small help from Capitalism’s Invisible Army, who have tons of experience in Hollywood.
The psychopathic brutality of Zelenski, his sponsors, and the sociopaths who have flocked to Ukraine is balanced by the protective and humanitarian actions of Russia.
Thank doG there is finally someone to stand up against the great evil in the world.
Gonzalo, on message, on point. That’s what separates his interpretation of events from all other analysts. He isn’t a military analyst, he’s a philosophy major. He isn’t interested in analyzing battlefield action, his brain picks out trends.
Years ago I was invested in a mutual fund. The fund manager was a philosophy major, far from a money guy, his funds would constantly return double digits because he could discern trends in human nature that were outside a traditional money guys paradigm. They were stuck in the day to day micro, where he looked at the macro flow of humanity.
LOL. Don’t get me wrong. You’ve always been one of my favorites here. Top five I assure you. It makes me terribly curious what your fund manager was onto.
Also, I think what my friend said showcases the difference in generations regarding educational bang for the buck. Kids keep getting puked out of university in America that can’t read or write. Teaching them real philosophy wouldn’t have been a good ROI. I really think you were spot on. Your fund manager was educated in philosophy. My friend felt rooked.
Cheers mate and have the best of weekends when it rolls around.
One point the philosophers missed would be that a spiritual absolute would be the essence of sentience, from which we rise, not an ideal of wisdom and judgement, from which we fell.
Consider the implications of an entire civilization built on the premise of the ideal as absolute. It certainly would lead people to be in constant disagreement, but who would imagine such a silly idea.
You can’t teach an old western dog new tricks. Plan A’s not working, let’s try Plan A with a cherry on top and call it Plan B. It’s like America don’t do contingency plans.
I’ve said many times that without a no-fly-zone, America has zero to offer. It’s a no-fly-zone formula followed by scorched earth, including dirty bombs, depleted uranium, phosphorous.
Over a $trillion Defence budget and tactically clueless.
Surely Scott Ritter is aware of America’s limitations. I hope he’s just been warned off by the FIRM and not had a brain seizure as I felt when the dust settles and Russia scores a victory over US-NATO, he should have his work recorded in the annals of history among his peers.
No one wants a RF victory, are you aware of what that looks like……we need Ukraine to capitulate, NATO back in its cage, and US UK to say sorry….that’ll never happen…..victory is hypersonic, bad outcome for many. I don’t think these people know what’s coming if they don’t stop. This is a war for existence, Russia’s.
Cheers M
I don’t think Scott got warned off, he just has a narrow focus.
It strikes me as being more of the West in their idiocy shooting themselves in the foot, as in they apparently want this war to last as long as possible but seem intent on destroying the Ukrainian forces for no good reason. It obviously suits the Russians to have the hare in the trap rather than chasing it all over the place. Hitler was famous for his ordered last stands which didn’t workout very well & led to much friction with Wehrmacht Generals – but Hitler made most of those decisions due to economic considerations, which the military had no concept of.
The difference is that in Ukraine the most pressing factor is preserving those forces so they can fight another day, unless of course optics is seen as being of higher importance which would only be postponing the inevitable & accelerating the downfall
I guess it’s not much fun being led by those who can only think in the short term who consider you to be totally dispensable.
What happened to anti-war movements & riots? What what happened to people voices? What happened to debates… So horrible to see what’s going on in Ukraine & watching these young men getting grinded to suffice the egos & greed of world leaders! May God help us!!!
Nick, they learned the lesson of propaganda. If they watch tv, they’ve been programmed nonstop with Russia/Putin = USSR/Stalin = EVIL since Trump won in ’16.
The rest of us are not silent. Just silenced, locked out of the discourse rooms, shuffled into the corridors.
I met an elderly man at the grocery yesterday, dressed in hip boots & work clothes, rummaging through the pork chops on sale. “Uneducated” from no longer rural enough Maine coast, a self-employed (bait) worm digger (which has replaced clam digging as viable income).
Talking about the cause of rising prices, he told me his heart aches for the Ukrainian people. When I said we backed Putin into a corner & forced this war, he immediately agreed. He was aware of all of it.
Otoh, my “highly educated” well-off dog veterinarian called me crazy when I ventured into the subject.
Where does Gonzalo get his insight from and why should I take him seriously? With someone like Andrei Martyanov it is clear that military affairs is this man’s passion and he also has relevant real life and work experience in the military to inform his opinions and analysis. Even “amateur” analysts like Moon of Alabama and Brian Berletic (The New Atlas) have been analyzing global affairs for years and have a public track record that speaks for itself.
Lira is on the ground in Ukraine, sure, but he is or was a lifestyle coach and a marketer and not a political commentator until a few months ago. Simply being on the ground in a location where events are happening does not in itself give a person special insight into those events.
In short, I don’t trust the guy but I am willing to reconsider my position if someone can give me a compelling reason why a guy with no relevant track record who came out of nowhere should be taken seriously as a military analyst.
But Eric, Gonzalo will be the first person to tell you he’s not a military analyst, right at the start of the vid. He has no interest in it at all. He watches, listens, then applies common sense to what he is hearing and seeing. Just another voices, but much less a talking head. He also reads lots of Ukie blogs there, I can find people here, Trudeaustan, who blog info from frontline towns in Ukraine on FB. He reads them all, good bad ugly, thats how one correlates data, from the data you can then game things forward. A touch of lateral thinking really helps.
So the interesting part……when the dust settles, we ACGs, can assign scores.
Meantime…..common sense rules. Severely lacking on the Orc side of the court these days.
You are looking for authority. People with a title.
This is a child’s approach to the world. If you were an adult you would look for and comment on the factual information you get from Gonzalo.
Adults contribute with the knowledge they have, contribute with what they factual know.
Adult children contribute only with what they believe and who they believe in. Therefore you cant use Gonzalo.
This not to down you, but to help you out of your confusion.
That’s very good, because I was also going to post this yet another different Ritter video from today Thursday itself
I feel there has been need for a lot of nuance. Lira does NOT have professional military background (which he readily admits). But attempting to respond to the controversy in a highly emotional manner & painting things in absolute “black” & “white” (putting all people into “bad” or “good” buckets categorically) may not be the best thing to do.
I personally don’t agree w/ Ritter’s view that the US military aid to Ukraine is going to make any difference & I feel that believing that Ukraine can raise a million man army is a laughable fantasy. But I’m not ready to assign bad intent to Ritter or throw him into some kind of “bad book” based on that (@ least not just yet)
It is sick because they don’t want to collect their dead and Russian troops are having to bury the dead soldiers for the Ukrainians. That many families in Ukraine must still think they are alive. Kiev will be keeping a lot of the deaths secret from these families.
They’ll do it as they will be terrified if the truth gets out then families will start shouting for a stop to the war.
Not so long ago Gonzalo Lira’s military predictions were close to a word for word repeat of what Scott Ritter was saying. Now somehow he has turned on Ritter. Plus he has apparently decided to no longer speculate about the military development. An implicit acknowledgement that he was just repeating some other source, apparently Ritter.
Everything we know about Zelensky supports that he is a hired flunkey playing a part. As long as he doesn’t go off the reservation he will be around. I wonder what he thinks about what he is doing. He is linked up with some really nasty people.
“Everything we know about Zelensky supports that he is a hired flunkey playing a part. As long as he doesn’t go off the reservation he will be around. I wonder what he thinks about what he is doing” He does not think, he is always high on coke.
One fact convinces me Russia is winning… In all areas liberated by the RF, not a single incident of protest or insurrection by the so-called conquered peoples… no media, no personal account anywhere reports otherwise. The fact all ‘captured’ cities by the RF have returned to normalcy, given the circumstances, and the thousands of tonnes of foods/supplies delivered by the RF, is added proof.
Another fact is clear… the USA wants to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian standing,,, men, women, children. How utterly vile.
ihree, this is now the second disrespectful post from you re Lira – content free. If you don’t like him, don’t listen to him. Many others do find something in what he presents. People internalize information differently and I find Lira has something to say that, combined with all the other information, holds value.
In general, with these complaints about Lira, most complainers cannot give the facts that he presents in his stream of consciousness style information. There are facts in there.
I personally am not a Lira groupie, as I prefer a more formal information base, but I have not found him floundering in what he says.
In this one he reminded me again that bloodthirstiness and shouts to ‘kill them all’ is as harmful to the shouter as to the bunches of too young conscripts and old men and sick men that the Ukraine is now throwing at the theater of war. We estimate that for any fighting group there is a +-10 percent only, Nazi leadership. A little compassion for the rest goes a long way because they are the ones that are now laying down their weapons and refusing to fight and putting up white flags and generally in some way or another, leaving the field of battle sometimes in death.
To kill these youngsters and old men like fish in a barrel in a cauldron on field of battle is heartwrenching, and I think the Russian soldiers know that too! That is why they are treated humanely.
Those that expect the Saker Blog to post only information that they like, do not get what we are about.
It is not disrespectful, please spare me the woke language. First of all, let me clear my position, I am absolutely for the RF and understand why they are conducting this Special MO in Ukraine. I get the final aims, and I have followed all this since 2014, this blog was very helpful amongst some others. This person, supposedly abducted by the nazy forces of Ukraine ( we know their ways), and than let free, and still posting… Sorry, heavily compromised…Where is his passport? Who holds it?
Not aims, but goals of the special operations, sorry, difficult to edit here. I support RF with all my heart, I think they are fighting for all of us, whether we are in zone A or ZoneB, as Saker would say.
By the way, zone B is 88 percent of the world.Thank you.
What punishable crime did he commit, what law did he break, you are speculating about Lira as much as he speculates about the SMO.
Many people are charged, and released, you just want to thump your chest and say “I told you so”.
That shows the limited amount of info available, to us. My grandfather did trench warfare for England against Germans in 1915, he was 15. They had no news of anything for five years. The folks at home even less.
We are spoiled, conditioned, Pavloved.
Cheers M
Apologies did not mean to insult with the chest, just so many ACGs, looking at micro numbers while Russia is being cancelled by the west. Big picture is much more complex. NWO is done…. there is a Global restructuring taking place. Told my boy it may get done in his life time, but I’ll be dust in the wind.
Spy…too funny….undercover, behind enemy lines, under house arrest in his apartment, making coffee and blogging state secrets…..sorry, just too funny. Everything he says is in the public domain….he just does a nice weave through the BS, and from an insider point of view. You are aware of his background? Should he survive, spyfare, the book he gets to write……after this. Love to have the rights to the movie…..no shortage of war footage, and all the action takes place in one room with one actor…..a directors dream.
Although I am on the same side as he is, rooting for the RF,
That is the lie always used by the likes of you before you begin trolling. The truth is that it is not Lira which bothers you, but his reporting. And THAT shows for whom you are really cheering.
but now I think that YOU are “a questionable entity, maybe a spy, double” (well, not quite, because, unlike you, I know the difference between spies and agent provocateurs, but that’s okay, we have already established that you are an ignoramus and a garden variety troll).
Now go away and never come back. My blog, my rules. Bye bye!
First, as idiots go, confusing SBU and USB is a good starter. Second, insulting Lira and his reports makes you a rude idiot. Telling Amarynth what to write, makes you a rude and arrogant idiot. And doing that on my blog makes you a rude, arrogant and unwelcome idiot. And since you are an idiot, and want to me sure I spell it out for you:
You are not welcome here, buzz of to some other location on the net and please stay there.
Maybe it’s going according to plan by the global elite.
Clear Ukraine of viable men-folk.
Massive child birthing surrogacy industry using the wombs of Ukie women at a time when western fertility is falling off a cliff.
Wholesale sex trafficking going forwards.
15,000 – 5,000 means 10,000 retreating via a road under Russian artillary fire. How many of the 10,000 will survive? 75%? 50%? Probably less. Does Ukraine have enough trucks and APCs to transport the 10,000? Not. It will be a forced march.
I think it’s possible the Russians will come to an agreement with the Ukraine military to allow all 15,000 safe passage to a predetermined area, to be dealt with later. Like happened in Syria. There’s no valor in slaughtering a fleeing army. The optics aren’t good. The other option is full surrender.
When this is over there’s going to be a huge demand for men to rebuild what’s been destroyed. 15,000 is a good start.
Gonzalo certainly understands his audience.
It’s unfortunate that he spent 90% of the time talking about the latest military tactics.
But military operations are not the centerpiece to what is going on *behind* all this.
We also think that Gonzalo, supposedly a wealthy man, is not able to come out with the names of US’ CEOS in high finance that includes the Military Industrial Complex, the Big Banks, Hedge Funders like Larry Fink, etc. The list is enormous. It also includes the psychopathic Neo-Cons in the US Financial Center & The State Department, to name only a few. But it’s all these people who are engineering and manipulating this “war” against Russia.
It’s unfortunate we spend so much time on military operations, yet, we don’t know anything about the Jewish Neo-con Brzezinski who wrote “The Grand Chessboard” years ago. Or why Kissinger engineered all the coups in Latin America with other Neo-Cons that pushed for the destruction of Iraq, Syria, etc.
Take a glance at a synopsis of Brzezinski’s Grand Chessboard. Top on his list was: Never, ever allow Eurasia (Russia, China, etc. etc) become a powerful commercial, financial, trade system using their own currencies. If that happens, the US $$/Military Hegemon “is toast.”
Recommendation: read or view videos with Dr. Michael Hudson. Read http://www.ShadowStats.com to understand how the American society is devolving into a 3d World nation.
There are many others – in Europe, elsewhere.
Time is of the essence…….let’s all become well educated folks.
So the question I would ask who will the west and the US support when civil war breaks out between the neo nazis headed by Alexey Arestovich and the Ukraine armed forces, the second question will NATO allow these neo nazis into their western countries to carry on cross border raids?
Gonzalo likes strong coffee. Did you see the size of that scooper? Two and one half!
Please watch this 10 minute video.
It is sobering and sad.
Gonzalo says that what is happening in Lysychansk right now will be a catastrophe and a rout. 15,000 Ukrainians have no chance to win and survival is also unlikely for large numbers of them.
I think that the UKR forces on the ground understand this and that is why we are seeing so many videos and statements of various companies surrendering. The Bully ordering these forces to remain in place, is directed by the Empire of Lies.
The impunity of the West to commit unspeakable acts needs to end.
This happened before, in Debaltsevo.
The cauldron was not mentioned in Zone A news, but a civilian airliner was shot down (perhaps in an effort to demand a cease fire), and that catastrophe made the news. Destruction of the airliner was blamed on Putin, without evidence. Russian language BBC did a news story on it, in which local residents were interviewed. Their personal accounts contradicted the official narrative, and the video soon disappeared without a trace.
It would not surprise me to see a huge surrender this time, in this cauldron.
We will know in a few days.
The reality is beginning to dawn on the West.
23-05-22. US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley hosted an online meeting with counterparts from 44 countries in a bid to drum up more donations of equipment to Ukraine. Symbolically, all the Ukrainian flag behind the speaker podium was place upside down.
Military trained people know it means that “the fort or Nation” has fallen into the hands of the enemy.
https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/05/26/pentagon-ukrainian-flags/
26-05-22 Alex Christoforou´s daily podcast confirms my claim that European NATO Nations are drawing down their own defense capabilities, in order to support Ukraine with weapons, and that NATO weapons producers are not able to fill the gab for years.
This has now led to quarrel between Germany and Poland. Take a look at 30:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1h0vFXDByA
26-05-22. Scott Ritter was once again on the Judge Napolitano show.
This time “specifying” that Russia is definitively winning this war. Watch it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGJUozB3og
In the meantime the owners of the West have sent the Agent Henry Kissinger to Davos with the message to Ukraine to seek peace with Russia by surrendering territory.
Judging by the change in narrative:
We may soon see the remaining NAZI hardcore in Kiev migrating towards Das Vaterland.
And Zelensky going to Hollywood starring in the new Blockbuster: 666 days in Kiev
Good points however: From memory I think you’re conflating the two defeats of Ukrainian forces that each led to Minsk I and then Minsk II agreements.
The Malaysian MH17 passenger jet was shot down the first time apparently to stop the fighting as DPR & LPR had surrounded thousands of Ukrainian troops to the east of Donetsk & Lugansk cities along the Russian border which allegedly had artillery fire from Russian forces. Thousands Ukrainian troops surrendered both to the republics and crossing border into Russia. All regular non-Nazi soldiers were soon released home to Ukraine. The remaining surrounded troops with higher % of neo-Nazi battalions were facing annihilation but got out after ceasefire due to shooting down MH17 – as the eye witnesses interviewed by the quickly censored BBC report said – by warplanes & no sign of a BUK missile at least from the villagers under the plane where the West accused DPR/LPR of firing one.
Debaltsevo was another cauldron many months to a year or so later that routed Ukrainian forces attempting to break through between Gorlovka & Lugansk into Debaltsevo. A perceived weak point where Ukraine hopped to divide the LPR from DPR for strategic reasons. Poroshenko conceded defeat more or less by signing Minsk II and the conflict became generally ‘frozen’ – apart from mostly daily occasional shelling and sniping against mostly civilians by Ukrainian forces, mainly by their neo-Nazi battalions.
Until about August 2021, after the Rada in Kiev formally reneged on Minsk II and Ukraine (with NATO advisors & trainers) started to amass an invasion force of ~60 to 100k troops (reports vary but footage of trains full of tanks & artillery pieces were shown for months on Twitter & Telegram by pro-Ukrainian accounts) and assembled thousands tanks & heavy artillery along the front line, then a massive bombardment from 16 February 2022 killing many people in DPR & LPR, Zelensky vowing to get Nukes & definitely join NATO about 20 February. Feints to test DPR & LNR defences by tank columns around 22 February that were driven back or tactically retreated after drawing fire by LPR & DPR forces.
Russia started amassing troops and heavy artillery & tanks from about November 2021 and recognised DPR & LNR as independent nations & formed formal military alliance ~21 February 2022 thus formally ending Minsk agreement. Interestingly Ukrainian bombardment ceased for 12 hours or so as probably commanders in Ukraine argued whether to press ahead with plans to blitzkrieg DPR & LPR or not because this meant obvious war with Russia now.
Presumably orders from NATO via Zelensky came through to press on and by 23 February massive artillery bombardment resumed.
Russia warned NATO of military retaliation in December 2021 if NATO didn’t stop supporting this aggression on Donbas and negotiate new wider security agreements, Russia was rebuked by Jens Stoltenberg head of NATO who said Russia has no right to ask for any reduction in NATO advancement.
Russia therefore launched preemptive attack to thwart Ukrainian invasion Donbas on 24 February 2022. With wider plans to demilitarisation and denazification off Ukraine – and as Lavrov admitted in interview with Indian media – to stop NATO establishing a no fly zone in Ukraine but for Russia to preempt with its own no fly zone.
Historical timeline is important.
Ahh, you are correct! Thank you. Debaltsevo was another cauldron, later in the LDPR conflict.
You’d think they would learn something after a few cauldrons, But if they can’t even acknowledge that it happened, it will happen again.
Anyone have a copy of that video?
Zelenski talked about calling in 1 million more. When these are killed, there are more 1 million people behind. Women and big children soldiers can also be used. Ukraine has 40 million inhabitants.
One day Russia will give up and realize they lost the war because they cannot kill millions. It will not look good on the Russian CV in the history books…………………???
we are near capitulation of the troops on their own – listening to Zel is coming to an end
Z and the uSA will be blamed for the slaughter in the long term – if 15,000-25,000 are eradicated
it would be good in a sad way for the uSA to press for the death of Uki’s – because it will show they will murder anyone in the world for their blood lust and power
there will be no new recruits – Z has no credibility except to recruit – $$$$$ – for 50% back to the good guys
A lot of these ukies probably want to stop fighting, but are afraid to surrender because of repercussions. The smart ones will simply get themselves ‘captured’ without putting up a fight and live.
The UK and US regimes have killed millions of their own people over the last 2 years. Do you really think they give a toss about the lives of any Ukrainians? These globalists are psychopathic monsters. They will use every opportunity to impose their brutal NWO.
https://odysee.com/@TheRiversEdge:0/JimCaviezel:0 Killing people is the least of the qabal’s atrocities and secret combination conspiracies.
So what’s the problem? Let them die, it’s a win-win situation! Who cares about 15,000 Nazis. We’ve had enough of Nazis since 1938. There should be an open season on Nazis, with no legal consequences for heads of those useless eaters.
It’s sad but the demons that have taking hold of the Ukraine government is designed to destroy it in record time. Sad to see the western puppet Zelenskyy acting this way without regard for the people of Ukraine.
Zelensky never cared about anyone but himself. He sold out his country to the US (treason – a capital offense) in exchange for a pile of money and a performance on the big stage.
The CIA has been grooming Zelensky for years. His offshore accounts were disclosed in the Panama Papers in 2016, years before his CIA sponsored “election” in Ukraine and only 1 year into his TV series. It is likely that his TV show ‘Servant of the People’ was produced with no small help from Capitalism’s Invisible Army, who have tons of experience in Hollywood.
The psychopathic brutality of Zelenski, his sponsors, and the sociopaths who have flocked to Ukraine is balanced by the protective and humanitarian actions of Russia.
Thank doG there is finally someone to stand up against the great evil in the world.
You are wrong on one account.
Z never had any country to sell. He is an employee from day 1. A good actor but still someone who never had any agency.
Had he acted independently, he would be deposed at best and dead by a “Russian assasin” at worst. Along his family.
A sane leader would have never started this. A half-sane leader would’ve stopped this a month ago at the latest to save lives and material.
Gonzalo, on message, on point. That’s what separates his interpretation of events from all other analysts. He isn’t a military analyst, he’s a philosophy major. He isn’t interested in analyzing battlefield action, his brain picks out trends.
Years ago I was invested in a mutual fund. The fund manager was a philosophy major, far from a money guy, his funds would constantly return double digits because he could discern trends in human nature that were outside a traditional money guys paradigm. They were stuck in the day to day micro, where he looked at the macro flow of humanity.
Cheers M
Philosophy majors no longer study philosophy says my Oxford educated Philosophy major friend.
She says they study a theorem on which to judge philosophy.
She said it was a huge disappointment to not be able to commune with the great minds of dead souls, but to learn what was essentially an equation.
Hence no understanding whatsoever of human nature beyond perhaps Wendy O. Williams of the Plasmatics observed as “A Pig Is A Pig (and that’s that).
Just so you know.
Ah, Oxford, I see ……..fair enough.
Cheers M
LOL. Don’t get me wrong. You’ve always been one of my favorites here. Top five I assure you. It makes me terribly curious what your fund manager was onto.
Also, I think what my friend said showcases the difference in generations regarding educational bang for the buck. Kids keep getting puked out of university in America that can’t read or write. Teaching them real philosophy wouldn’t have been a good ROI. I really think you were spot on. Your fund manager was educated in philosophy. My friend felt rooked.
Cheers mate and have the best of weekends when it rolls around.
One point the philosophers missed would be that a spiritual absolute would be the essence of sentience, from which we rise, not an ideal of wisdom and judgement, from which we fell.
Consider the implications of an entire civilization built on the premise of the ideal as absolute. It certainly would lead people to be in constant disagreement, but who would imagine such a silly idea.
Why not just link to the original on all todays story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28SRQCxeNhs
(Which the Saker Site managers put up yesterday – it was better put first time around)
First time I’ve seen this guy’s videos. Yes, this one was excellent and very informative.
Very good angle from Gonzalo. Human tragedy unfolding. Danke Deutschland, UK, US … Show must go on.
The worst case scenario is loss or capture of 15,000
But these aren’t considered people by the West
Madeline dimwit thinks that is a reasonable price to pay for Western defeat
Not her life anymore anyway
You can’t teach an old western dog new tricks. Plan A’s not working, let’s try Plan A with a cherry on top and call it Plan B. It’s like America don’t do contingency plans.
I’ve said many times that without a no-fly-zone, America has zero to offer. It’s a no-fly-zone formula followed by scorched earth, including dirty bombs, depleted uranium, phosphorous.
Over a $trillion Defence budget and tactically clueless.
Surely Scott Ritter is aware of America’s limitations. I hope he’s just been warned off by the FIRM and not had a brain seizure as I felt when the dust settles and Russia scores a victory over US-NATO, he should have his work recorded in the annals of history among his peers.
No one wants a RF victory, are you aware of what that looks like……we need Ukraine to capitulate, NATO back in its cage, and US UK to say sorry….that’ll never happen…..victory is hypersonic, bad outcome for many. I don’t think these people know what’s coming if they don’t stop. This is a war for existence, Russia’s.
Cheers M
I don’t think Scott got warned off, he just has a narrow focus.
Depends how you define victory sean!
You speak for yourself regarding wants.
If you think America will retreat quietly off into the sunset, excepting their medicine then . . . . . .
‘This is a war for existence, Russia’s’ . . . . . & America’s . . . . .& The EU.
It strikes me as being more of the West in their idiocy shooting themselves in the foot, as in they apparently want this war to last as long as possible but seem intent on destroying the Ukrainian forces for no good reason. It obviously suits the Russians to have the hare in the trap rather than chasing it all over the place. Hitler was famous for his ordered last stands which didn’t workout very well & led to much friction with Wehrmacht Generals – but Hitler made most of those decisions due to economic considerations, which the military had no concept of.
The difference is that in Ukraine the most pressing factor is preserving those forces so they can fight another day, unless of course optics is seen as being of higher importance which would only be postponing the inevitable & accelerating the downfall
I guess it’s not much fun being led by those who can only think in the short term who consider you to be totally dispensable.
What happened to anti-war movements & riots? What what happened to people voices? What happened to debates… So horrible to see what’s going on in Ukraine & watching these young men getting grinded to suffice the egos & greed of world leaders! May God help us!!!
Nick, they learned the lesson of propaganda. If they watch tv, they’ve been programmed nonstop with Russia/Putin = USSR/Stalin = EVIL since Trump won in ’16.
The rest of us are not silent. Just silenced, locked out of the discourse rooms, shuffled into the corridors.
I met an elderly man at the grocery yesterday, dressed in hip boots & work clothes, rummaging through the pork chops on sale. “Uneducated” from no longer rural enough Maine coast, a self-employed (bait) worm digger (which has replaced clam digging as viable income).
Talking about the cause of rising prices, he told me his heart aches for the Ukrainian people. When I said we backed Putin into a corner & forced this war, he immediately agreed. He was aware of all of it.
Otoh, my “highly educated” well-off dog veterinarian called me crazy when I ventured into the subject.
Where does Gonzalo get his insight from and why should I take him seriously? With someone like Andrei Martyanov it is clear that military affairs is this man’s passion and he also has relevant real life and work experience in the military to inform his opinions and analysis. Even “amateur” analysts like Moon of Alabama and Brian Berletic (The New Atlas) have been analyzing global affairs for years and have a public track record that speaks for itself.
Lira is on the ground in Ukraine, sure, but he is or was a lifestyle coach and a marketer and not a political commentator until a few months ago. Simply being on the ground in a location where events are happening does not in itself give a person special insight into those events.
In short, I don’t trust the guy but I am willing to reconsider my position if someone can give me a compelling reason why a guy with no relevant track record who came out of nowhere should be taken seriously as a military analyst.
But Eric, Gonzalo will be the first person to tell you he’s not a military analyst, right at the start of the vid. He has no interest in it at all. He watches, listens, then applies common sense to what he is hearing and seeing. Just another voices, but much less a talking head. He also reads lots of Ukie blogs there, I can find people here, Trudeaustan, who blog info from frontline towns in Ukraine on FB. He reads them all, good bad ugly, thats how one correlates data, from the data you can then game things forward. A touch of lateral thinking really helps.
So the interesting part……when the dust settles, we ACGs, can assign scores.
Meantime…..common sense rules. Severely lacking on the Orc side of the court these days.
Cheers M
You are looking for authority. People with a title.
This is a child’s approach to the world. If you were an adult you would look for and comment on the factual information you get from Gonzalo.
Adults contribute with the knowledge they have, contribute with what they factual know.
Adult children contribute only with what they believe and who they believe in. Therefore you cant use Gonzalo.
This not to down you, but to help you out of your confusion.
He is spot on, a complete waste at this point.
Scott Ritter discusses the responses he’s received from his recent analysis:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UnZU4n9lurg&feature=youtu.be
Lira and Ritter should build bridges and do a video together again.
That’s very good, because I was also going to post this yet another different Ritter video from today Thursday itself
I feel there has been need for a lot of nuance. Lira does NOT have professional military background (which he readily admits). But attempting to respond to the controversy in a highly emotional manner & painting things in absolute “black” & “white” (putting all people into “bad” or “good” buckets categorically) may not be the best thing to do.
I personally don’t agree w/ Ritter’s view that the US military aid to Ukraine is going to make any difference & I feel that believing that Ukraine can raise a million man army is a laughable fantasy. But I’m not ready to assign bad intent to Ritter or throw him into some kind of “bad book” based on that (@ least not just yet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGJUozB3og
It is sick because they don’t want to collect their dead and Russian troops are having to bury the dead soldiers for the Ukrainians. That many families in Ukraine must still think they are alive. Kiev will be keeping a lot of the deaths secret from these families.
They’ll do it as they will be terrified if the truth gets out then families will start shouting for a stop to the war.
Not so long ago Gonzalo Lira’s military predictions were close to a word for word repeat of what Scott Ritter was saying. Now somehow he has turned on Ritter. Plus he has apparently decided to no longer speculate about the military development. An implicit acknowledgement that he was just repeating some other source, apparently Ritter.
Everything we know about Zelensky supports that he is a hired flunkey playing a part. As long as he doesn’t go off the reservation he will be around. I wonder what he thinks about what he is doing. He is linked up with some really nasty people.
“Everything we know about Zelensky supports that he is a hired flunkey playing a part. As long as he doesn’t go off the reservation he will be around. I wonder what he thinks about what he is doing” He does not think, he is always high on coke.
Plan B for the US is for “Russia” to use a nuclear weapon because it is “losing”.
One fact convinces me Russia is winning… In all areas liberated by the RF, not a single incident of protest or insurrection by the so-called conquered peoples… no media, no personal account anywhere reports otherwise. The fact all ‘captured’ cities by the RF have returned to normalcy, given the circumstances, and the thousands of tonnes of foods/supplies delivered by the RF, is added proof.
Another fact is clear… the USA wants to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian standing,,, men, women, children. How utterly vile.
Another false reporting from ‘useful idiot’, think…Yes, was ‘apprehended’ by USB, and keeps reporting freely after all. Are you all crazy?
ihree, this is now the second disrespectful post from you re Lira – content free. If you don’t like him, don’t listen to him. Many others do find something in what he presents. People internalize information differently and I find Lira has something to say that, combined with all the other information, holds value.
In general, with these complaints about Lira, most complainers cannot give the facts that he presents in his stream of consciousness style information. There are facts in there.
I personally am not a Lira groupie, as I prefer a more formal information base, but I have not found him floundering in what he says.
In this one he reminded me again that bloodthirstiness and shouts to ‘kill them all’ is as harmful to the shouter as to the bunches of too young conscripts and old men and sick men that the Ukraine is now throwing at the theater of war. We estimate that for any fighting group there is a +-10 percent only, Nazi leadership. A little compassion for the rest goes a long way because they are the ones that are now laying down their weapons and refusing to fight and putting up white flags and generally in some way or another, leaving the field of battle sometimes in death.
To kill these youngsters and old men like fish in a barrel in a cauldron on field of battle is heartwrenching, and I think the Russian soldiers know that too! That is why they are treated humanely.
Those that expect the Saker Blog to post only information that they like, do not get what we are about.
It is not disrespectful, please spare me the woke language. First of all, let me clear my position, I am absolutely for the RF and understand why they are conducting this Special MO in Ukraine. I get the final aims, and I have followed all this since 2014, this blog was very helpful amongst some others. This person, supposedly abducted by the nazy forces of Ukraine ( we know their ways), and than let free, and still posting… Sorry, heavily compromised…Where is his passport? Who holds it?
Not aims, but goals of the special operations, sorry, difficult to edit here. I support RF with all my heart, I think they are fighting for all of us, whether we are in zone A or ZoneB, as Saker would say.
By the way, zone B is 88 percent of the world.Thank you.
What punishable crime did he commit, what law did he break, you are speculating about Lira as much as he speculates about the SMO.
Many people are charged, and released, you just want to thump your chest and say “I told you so”.
Cheers M
That shows the limited amount of info available, to us. My grandfather did trench warfare for England against Germans in 1915, he was 15. They had no news of anything for five years. The folks at home even less.
We are spoiled, conditioned, Pavloved.
Cheers M
Apologies did not mean to insult with the chest, just so many ACGs, looking at micro numbers while Russia is being cancelled by the west. Big picture is much more complex. NWO is done…. there is a Global restructuring taking place. Told my boy it may get done in his life time, but I’ll be dust in the wind.
I am glad you have found other sources and I invite you to please go from here in peace to where you are happier.
Spy…too funny….undercover, behind enemy lines, under house arrest in his apartment, making coffee and blogging state secrets…..sorry, just too funny. Everything he says is in the public domain….he just does a nice weave through the BS, and from an insider point of view. You are aware of his background? Should he survive, spyfare, the book he gets to write……after this. Love to have the rights to the movie…..no shortage of war footage, and all the action takes place in one room with one actor…..a directors dream.
Cheers M
Although I am on the same side as he is, rooting for the RF,
That is the lie always used by the likes of you before you begin trolling. The truth is that it is not Lira which bothers you, but his reporting. And THAT shows for whom you are really cheering.
but now I think that YOU are “a questionable entity, maybe a spy, double” (well, not quite, because, unlike you, I know the difference between spies and agent provocateurs, but that’s okay, we have already established that you are an ignoramus and a garden variety troll).
Now go away and never come back. My blog, my rules. Bye bye!
Andrei
@ihree
First, as idiots go, confusing SBU and USB is a good starter. Second, insulting Lira and his reports makes you a rude idiot. Telling Amarynth what to write, makes you a rude and arrogant idiot. And doing that on my blog makes you a rude, arrogant and unwelcome idiot. And since you are an idiot, and want to me sure I spell it out for you:
You are not welcome here, buzz of to some other location on the net and please stay there.
Andrei
Maybe it’s going according to plan by the global elite.
Clear Ukraine of viable men-folk.
Massive child birthing surrogacy industry using the wombs of Ukie women at a time when western fertility is falling off a cliff.
Wholesale sex trafficking going forwards.
15,000 – 5,000 means 10,000 retreating via a road under Russian artillary fire. How many of the 10,000 will survive? 75%? 50%? Probably less. Does Ukraine have enough trucks and APCs to transport the 10,000? Not. It will be a forced march.
I think it’s possible the Russians will come to an agreement with the Ukraine military to allow all 15,000 safe passage to a predetermined area, to be dealt with later. Like happened in Syria. There’s no valor in slaughtering a fleeing army. The optics aren’t good. The other option is full surrender.
When this is over there’s going to be a huge demand for men to rebuild what’s been destroyed. 15,000 is a good start.
Gonzalo certainly understands his audience.
It’s unfortunate that he spent 90% of the time talking about the latest military tactics.
But military operations are not the centerpiece to what is going on *behind* all this.
We also think that Gonzalo, supposedly a wealthy man, is not able to come out with the names of US’ CEOS in high finance that includes the Military Industrial Complex, the Big Banks, Hedge Funders like Larry Fink, etc. The list is enormous. It also includes the psychopathic Neo-Cons in the US Financial Center & The State Department, to name only a few. But it’s all these people who are engineering and manipulating this “war” against Russia.
It’s unfortunate we spend so much time on military operations, yet, we don’t know anything about the Jewish Neo-con Brzezinski who wrote “The Grand Chessboard” years ago. Or why Kissinger engineered all the coups in Latin America with other Neo-Cons that pushed for the destruction of Iraq, Syria, etc.
Take a glance at a synopsis of Brzezinski’s Grand Chessboard. Top on his list was: Never, ever allow Eurasia (Russia, China, etc. etc) become a powerful commercial, financial, trade system using their own currencies. If that happens, the US $$/Military Hegemon “is toast.”
Recommendation: read or view videos with Dr. Michael Hudson. Read http://www.ShadowStats.com to understand how the American society is devolving into a 3d World nation.
There are many others – in Europe, elsewhere.
Time is of the essence…….let’s all become well educated folks.
So the question I would ask who will the west and the US support when civil war breaks out between the neo nazis headed by Alexey Arestovich and the Ukraine armed forces, the second question will NATO allow these neo nazis into their western countries to carry on cross border raids?