Combined for July 16, 2014
Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov
Graphic: Marinovka has been taken by the Militia. The punitive forces have been totally encircled. The southern cauldron has been firmly sealed (courtesy of The Saker at The Vineyard of the Saker) Graphic: Junta Defeat on LPR Territory – by Colonel Cassad @Colonel Cassad in English
July 16, 2014 – Briefing from the Militia
Since 05:00 in the morning the Militia has been engaged in a massive offensive agains the forces of the National Guard near Saur-Mogila and Stepanovka. Tank, mortar and ATGM strikes were conducted against the checkpoint of the National Guard that was situated near the village of Marinovka (DPR). Strikes continued for over an hour. At this time, the battle continues in the area of the Tarani settlement, where the militiamen continue advancing against the Junta forces; the offensive is being conducted from the side of Saur-Mogila and Stepanovka. Strikes using mortar, tanks and AGTM continue.
12:10 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from the Militia
The shelling of the Lugansk airport is continuing using MLRS and cannon artillery. The initial garrison of the airfield and and the part of the armoured group that broke through on 13th-14th of July, totalling 40-45 tanks, BMPs and self-propelled artillery units, has been blockaded in the area of the encircled airport. Even without taking into account the constant shelling, the enemy will start experiencing a lack of ammunition within the next 2-3 days. Late night yesterday, a saboteur-reconnaisance group blew up paired and unpaired rail lines at the 38th kilometre of the staging portion of the Novobakhmutovka-Gorlovka railway in order to prevent the movement of Junta troops.
12:42 – July 16, 2014 – Information from Journalists
The ranks of the Lugansk Militia grew on July 16th. Over 450 recruits are expected to take the oath over the course of the day. Almost all of them are residents of Lugansk. Among the recruits there are also women, who joined the ranks of the Militia to defend their homes. All those who take the oath today will be joined into a newly-created Paratrooper Battalion VDV, which previously did not exist in the Lugansk Republic. The recruits, many of whom had already taken part in the hostilities, were immediately issued firearms. Those for whom it will be the first time to defend their motherland can expect to go through a “Young Fighter’s Course.”
July 16, 2014 – Briefing from Bratislav Zhivkovich, Commander of Serbian Chetniks
Volunteers from our “Yovan Shevich” unit are taking active part in the battle for Lugansk. We moved out to assist the surrounded unit of the Lugansk People’s Army, to deliver them ammunitions and medications, to relieve their wounded. We broke through to their positions, and the Ukrainian army was unable to block us. We remained encircling for approximately 12 hours, but were able to break out in the morning, before sunrise. We were shelled with artillery; as a result of the shelling, one of the fighters of the Lugansk People’s Army died and one more wounded. We have four wounded, three chetniks and one Russian, who joined our unit.
July 16, 2014 – Information from the DPR Press-Centre
By Order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Donetsk People’s Republic Militia “Considering the danger looming over the city of Donetsk, and to ensure that the measures with respect to the defence of the city of Donetsk are implemented, I hereby order: (1) That state of war be imposed in certain areas of the city of Donetsk; the border of the areas, in which state of war will be introduced, will be determined according to the developing situation; (2) That curfew be introduced; the hours of the curfew shall be from 23:00 and until 06:00 in the morning. Commander-in-Chief of the DPR Militia, Igor Strelkov”
July 16, 2014 – Situation Report from the Area of the “Southern Cauldron”
In the course of the day the columns of Ukrainian military equipment and infantry continuing their flight across the Russian border from the east to the west – through the village of Kozhevnya, then on to Novopetrovskoye, Grigorovka and, finally, to Amvrosievka. The Militia’s artily is conducting periodic strikes against the enemy forces using all available calibre’s. NazGuard’s attempt to conduct yet another assault against Saur-Mogila was answered with a massive artillery shelling, following which the Ukrainian forces continued their retreat.
July 16, 2014 – Morning Briefing from the Militia
The area of the Izvarino border crossing has been completely cleared of Ukrainian forces. In Lugansk, from midnight (local time) and until 03:00 in the morning, we used Grozdikas to shell the airfield, and, from 05:00 in the morning, added Grad to the mix. At about the same time, we also covered a Ukie column with Grad near Amvorsievka (DPR), in the area of the Bolshaya Shishkovka village. There were nighttime skirmishes in the area of Karlovka (the Ukie offensive was repelled) and shelling with Grad near Saur-Mogila. Over the course of the night, militiamen continued to shell the executioners’ positions near Marinovka (DPR) and near the settlement of Provalye. Between Shakhtersk and Tores, Ukrainian air force, represented by 1 ground attack craft, attempted to attack a Militia column, without success. As they were afraid of being hit with a portable anti-aircraft unit (“PZRK”), the airstrike was conducted from a significant height and did not cause any damage.
10:20 (MSK) – Battles began again in the area of Saur-Mogila. Ukies are pulling together their last reserves – they are transporting Smerch, Uragan and self-propelled howitzer units from Shepetovka.
12:28 (MSK) – Ukies are attempted to bomb militiamen with their air forces in the area of Stepanovka. Ukrainian aviation is continuing to conduct airstrikes, in waves, against Saur-Mogila – the third wave (2 Su jets) just began. The Militia is hitting the aircraft with anti-aircraft units, there are also launches from PZRK. The Ukrainian air force launched 4 high-powered guided missiles at the mountain, without counting the unguided missiles (“NURS”). They are also bombing the settlement of Tarany, which is nearby.
July 16, 2014 – Photo-Commentary from the Militia
Militiamen have been successfully destroying not only the outdated machinery of the Ukrainian forces, but also the cutting-edge armoured equipment. The photograph contains the source of great pride for Ukie forces – a “Bulat” tank, recently destroyed by the Militia.
12:00 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from the LPR Militia for the First Half of July 16, 2014
The past evening and night in the Lugansk region were relatively calm. Suffering substantial losses, the enemy continued its retreat from Provalye and Marinovka, heading toward Biryukovo, where it was also met by LPR units and sustained losses. Near Lugansk, the aggressor, on the one hand, continued to retreat from its positions near the settlements of Aleksandrovka, Yubileyniy and Ekaterinovka and, on the other hand, started to grow its grouping in the vicinity of Shchastye. In particular, at about 08:00, an enemy column, noted to include 6 Grad installations, passed through the Shchastye checkpoint. At night and in the morning, enemy fighter aircrafts ascended into the sky on several occasions. They flew at a substantial elevation, no less than 6,000 metres. The previous evening a Su-25 ground attack craft conducted an airstrike at the Ukrainian Ministry of Emergency base nominally controlled by Kiev, in the process destroying special equipment necessary in the event if a chemical leak were to affect the territory. At about 11:00, a saboteur group, operating from the territory of the Milam enterprise, conducted mortar strikes, presumably at the location where Battalion Zarya is quartered. However, the shells fell on the territory of a trolley depot.
July 16, 2014 – Briefing from Igor Strelkov (Interview)
Video: Igor Strelkov on the Battlefield – The Attack on Maryinovka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9572wUtRwQ
Igor Strelkov: We attacked Maryinovka, attempting to cut across the [southern] corridor, which connects the enemy’s southern group with its main forces. Well, we weren’t able to cut through all the way. We took control of three strategic heights and one village. However, we couldn’t make it all the way to the border; their forces are too large here.
It looks like there were two dead and no fewer than fifteen wounded, most of them, thankfully, lightly. So, there are a few …
Militiaman: The mortar battery was located. In the corn field.
Igor Strelkov: (to the militiaman) Where is it? Eliminate it. Eliminate. Encircle and eliminate it. Throw your reconnaissance unit there.
Igor Strelkov: (to the reporter) Right now I’ll have to give orders. So, we destroyed one BTR and one BMP of the enemy. One BMP was captured. And just now we located the mortar battery that was shelling us. Perhaps we’ll be able to deal with it as well. However, chances are the personnel is long gone.
So, a few armoured vehicles managed to escape from us; they fled the village. One of the heights was defended by three tanks. In the settlement itself, there were four BMPs, one Hummer and two BTRs. The larger part of them left. However, as I already mentioned, two armoured vehicles were destroyed and one was captured.
What else could I tell you? The enemy is sending its last regards to Maryinovka by shelling it. Right now it’s quiet, but, otherwise, they lob two-three heavy shells at it every several minutes.
There were fierce artillery exchanges. The militia conducted mortar strikes against the enemy positions. You can hear them now again. I don’t think the battle is over yet.
13:03 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from Fyodor Berezin, Igor Strelkov’s Deputy
Right now I am in Lugansk. Certain circumstances demand my presence. There is mortar shelling. A school is burning. Thankfully, children don’t study in the summer. Another building is also burning. Ukies are attempting to breakthrough from the north. They are throwing their reserves there. We are urgently hiring. I have met many good men on the roads of war. Here is an address to the people from one of my new friends – Leshiy. His shoulder was fractured by an SVD, but he commands without a hitch. The address is read out by another man. He will introduce himself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-fx83vw8KU So that’s how it is. You can believe what is said. At the time, these are the very people who are repelling the tank attack, and a number of them are engaged in evacuation 750 civilians.
15:06 – July 16, 2014 – Information from the Militia
Local resident of Avdeevka observed a small group of scruffy men in green camouflage in the Vinogradniki district. The men were inquiring about safe passage out of DPR. Clearly, they were the inmates of the airport and yet another group of deserters. Regarding how they manage to make it out, allow me to explain: the perimeter of the airport is fairly large and the boundaries of the airport area are directly adjacent to a wilderness area that contains a nearby forested zone. With respect to the destruction of the radio-location station – indeed, we conducted an operation to destroy communications on the tower (the tower itself will still be useful to us after victory), rather than to destroy the construction itself. Electrical power cables were taken out of commission. Ukies will not be able to restore them because the territory in the area, and not only there, is wide open to easy shelling. To ensure the safety of the Militia personnel, we are implementing preventive measures aimed at upsetting the enemy’s state of combat and psychological readiness.
15:50 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from the Militia
Marinovka has been taken by the Militia. The punitive forces have been totally encircled. The southern cauldron has been firmly sealed. The Ukrainian forces have only one chance to survive – to surrender to the Militia or to be interned on the territory of Russia. On other areas of the southern front, the Militia also continues an active offensive. Artillery attacks on the Junta columns are being conducted. The Militia periodically uses Grad systems.
17:05 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from the Militia
We did a bit of damage to a Su jet over Gorlovka. It left in the direction of Mirgorod garnished with a thick black tail of smoke. Don’t think it will make it to the airfield with damage like that. Near the Marinovka border checkpoint on the former Russian-Ukrainian border, a battle clash between the punitive forces and our assault group is ongoing. The border checkpoint, controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, was attacked with 10 tanks, 5 BTRs and 200 militiamen. Two Ukies soldiers were killed in the very first minutes of the battle.
17:16 – July 16, 2014 – Infromation from Militiaman Prokhorov
I would like to inform you that the retreat of Ukie 72nd and 79th aeromobile and the 24th mechanized brigades from the Izvarino area is gradually turning into a flight. Officers and soldiers alike are spreading panic over their telephones and other means of communication. You should be soon expecting a tsunami of calls from their relatives to the mass media. Thus, the Ukie “air force offensive” is simply a loud fart into a puddle. On the Ukrainian side of the Izvarino border checkpoint, the word “Ukraine” has been refashioned into “Ruin”. LPR and USSR flags are flying over the buildings.
14:40 (MSK) – Fighting has commenced in the Metallist area (the suburb of Lugansk). The Nazi bastards withdrew out most of their armoured vehicles from Shchastye, transferring them to Noviy Aidar. A new wave is coming at Saur-Mogila. When will Ukies will finally exhaust their supply of Su-24s? PZRKs (Personal Anti-Aircraft Complex) in Snezhnoye already have already fired off their salvos at the Ukrainian aircraft. At least one Su gained serious health problems during the previous air assaults. The claim that an assassination attempt was made on the life of Ukraine’s Minister of Internal Affairs, Arsen Avakov is disinformation. He is Slavyansk, healthy as ever. Pure disinfo to distract the citizens from the Khokhlo-army’s defeats in the southern “intestine”.
17:49 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing From the Militia
The DPR Militia claim two more Ukrainian jets near Saur-Mogila. The head of the DPR Militia Press-Service, Vladislav Brig, posted on his Facebook account: “Two more Su jets were shot down. They were engaged in airstrikes at Saur-Mogila.”
19:17 – July 16, 2014 – Information from Eyewitnesses
On the hottest parts of the front, Ukies have been observed throwing away their weapons, taking off their military markings, with some even removing their uniforms and changing into civilian clothes, and running toward the Russian border. Those who have no civilian clothes with them run with peeled-off epaulets. Some, and, in particular, members of the punitive battalions and Praviy Sector militants, have been seen stripping to their underwear.
19:42 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from Igor Strelkov
Heavy fighting continues near Marinovka. The village was twice bombed from high elevation. The enemy is concentrating its artillery and tanks against our grouping from the south and from the west. Battles are also continuing in the area south of Dmitrievka, where the enemy has concentrated an artillery grouping near Kozhevnya. We lost 1 BTR (destroyed with a shot from an ATGM); the enemy suffered losses of 1 BTR and 1 BMP destroyed and 1 BMP-2 captured in working condition.
19:34 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from the Militia HQ
The enemy has been continuing its retreat from Provalye Marinovka (LPR), suffering substantial losses, heading in the direction of Biryukovo, where it was ambushed by LPR militiamen. In the first half of the day, the enemy continued to increase its grouping on the approaches to Shchastye. MLRS Grad were pulled up to the location. Right now there is a withdrawal of Ukie forces to Novoaidar.
Good News from Donbass – Blog Entry by Colonel Cassad @ Colonel Cassad in English
From reliable sources in the DPR:
The junta military today rolled back from Izvarino and Krasnodon (a bit earlier the information arrived that the enemy is retreating from Alexandrovka and Schastye), without solving the main problem of blockading the former state border of Ukraine with the Russian Federation. After suffering large losses and having problems with supplies, on the 15-th day of the offensive the junta military retreated by about 30-40 km from Izvarino, south of which lies the self-styled “road of life”. This way, together with the growing defeat of the South punitive group and the failed attempt to unblock the Luhansk airport, the LPR militia won the strategic defensive operation which continued for more than two weeks, and the junta suffered its largest defeat since the start of the war. In essence, the charge of the mechanized forces to the rescue of the airport was a gamble by which they were trying to turn the failing operation around. In order to renew the offensive operation the junta urgently needs an operational pause, because the situation continues to get worse for it, which is why requests of cease-fire cannot be excluded in the nearest time, which of course will be rejected by the militia.
The story with Mr. Khodakovsky continues. Somewhat earlier he was stripped of the direct command of the “Vostok” battalion (which was reformed into a brigade, so it has to be called now the “Vostok” brigade), which was operationally reassigned to Strelkov and his headquarters that rely on the conceal of the commanders. Over Khodakovsky, who used to be the minister of the state security of the DPR, a representative of the “Bloody Gebnya” (i.e., KGB) emerged, lieutenant-general Antyufeev who is currently cleansing the consequences of the work of those who were involved with the attempts to surrender Donetsk. A few days ago Mr. Khodakovsky was explicitly offered to determine with whom he is – either with Akhmetov or with the DPR. Because no agreement in good faith was apparently reached, then according to the data of the source, Mr. Khodakovsky today scribbled a paper about resigning from all positions in the security block of the DPR, which was dropped on the table of the political leadership of the DPR. Will it be given motion is not yet clear, but it is quite probable that in the nearest time Mr. Khodakovsky may depart from the deck of the military and political leaders of the DPR, similarly to how recently the former Mayor of Donetsk Mr. Lukyanchenko fell out of it and ran into Kiev.
UPD: Mr. Strelkov already confirmed the fact of the resignation of Mr. Khodakovsky from the position of the Minister of State Security of the DPR, so the source once again confirmed its high degree of privity.
Strelkov: Indeed, Mr. Khodakovsky resigned from the position of the minister. But he continues to command “Vostok” and nobody is going to remove him.
This way Mr. Khodakovsky now remains just a field commander and dropped out of the political deck of the top of the DPR. One more consequence of the retreat from Slavyansk.
Restrained optimism reigns in the military leadership of the DPR and the LPR after the successes of the recent days. So things are moving.
Junta Defeat on LPR Territory – by Colonel Cassad @ Colonel Cassad in English
Continue Reading: Junta Defeat on LPR Territory – by Colonel Cassad @ Colonel Cassad in English
July 16, 2014 – Information from LifeNews
Sixteen wounded Ukrainian executioners were delivered across the border into Russia. The border guards and Junta servicemen wounded in the fighting are being treated at hospital of the Gukovo village in the Rostov region. The number of Ukrainian soldier being attended to by Russian doctors has grown to 16 men. Three Ukrainian border guards are in intensive care; the all received wounds of various degrees of severity. The character of wounds varies – caused by shells, frags and shrapnel, as well as fractures and burns. A source in the Militia provided information that the battle on the LPR territory is occurring only 10 kilometres away from the Russian village of Gukovo.
July 16, 2014 – Situation Report from the Militia
An accumulation of disparate parts of Ukie forces can be observed in the area of Amvrosievka – this is the outcome of our morning liberation of Marinovka (DPR). In the corse of a haphazard retreat in the direction of Mariupol, significant numbers of armoured vehicles in disrepair is being abandoned “on the march” (in quotations, as it is difficult to equate this flight to a march). The evacuation of non-military personnel has been substantially hampered. We have information that separate units of the Junta forces, in an attempt to breakout from the Saurovsk cauldron, are running, stripping of their camouflage and dropping personal arms, almost naked to their underwear. Those who have civilian clothes are hastily changing, hoping to get lost among the civilian population. In Lugansk, the situation remains tense. We have radio located and now are tracking an enemy fire corrector.
20:00 (MSK) – We have received and now are confirming information about the shooting down of a transport aircraft (An-26) over Lugansk. An intensive battle has ensued at the Lugansk airport. A KPVT can be heard working, there are explosions. Near the square adjacent to the airport terminal there is thick black smoke.
July 16, 2014 – Briefing from the Militia
Two Russian paratroopers have indeed been killed. What’s more, the cause of the incident was not shelling from beyond the border. A group of Ukrainian militants (presumably, Praviy Sector or the Nazi Guard) ended up on the territory of the Russian Federation (it’s known whether accidentally or intentionally) and shot at the positions of the paratroopers stationed at the border. Two of them were killed. Upon the group’s exit from the Russian territory the attackers were dealt with by the Militia. The larger part of the attackers has been eliminated. We have been asked not to share some of the details, but, in general, it can be said that the guilty who been punished and are cooling off six feet under. In the Gukovo area, the Russian side of the border was against subject to shelling (mortars and, presumable, incomplete MLRS salvo packets). There is as yet no information about casualties; some people have been evacuated (there is a refugee camp near the border). Observers are noting that up to 20 common and resuscitation ambulances have moved out toward the place of the shelling, which suggests casualties. There is of course no military purpose or significance to these shillings; the impotent rage of the executioners suffering defeat is understandable, considering, of course that they won’t remain near the border for much longer.
20:58 – July 16, 2014 – Briefing from Igor Strelkov
At 09:20, a Ukie Su-25 was shot down over Dmitrievka. “Prapor” [Note: Igor Strelkov’s close friend in the Militia] was seriously wounded in his arm with two frags. It’s his third time already during this war. – regarding the death of artist Pavel Ryzhenko I am grieving. He was a man full of light. When I he consulted with me, he then was already complaining that his arms were growing numb.
21:50 – Briefing from Igor Strelkov
From Snezhnoye, they are reporting that a second Su-25 was shot down with three shots from a portable anti-aircraft unit. This is the work of anti-airfact personnel of Battalion Oplot. Today at 08:40, local time, south of Mospino, in the settlement of Svetloye, saboteur-reconnaissance groups of the 2nd Battalion attacked the stronghold and the checkpoint of the enemy. One BTR, one Kamaz truck, 1 staff bus, and 1 ATGM system “Konkurs” were destroyed. The losses of the enemy (National Guard) exceeded 50 men. After the battle, the enemy abandoned the checkpoint. The remnant of the garrison left in the southerly direction. Our side suffered no losses. – What did you use to rout the executioners at the Svetloye settlement? We used 120mm mortars from very close range. What’s more, we used them without targeting correction – by eyeballing the targeting – our fighters have enough experience by now.
July 16, 2014 – Hourly Briefings from Locations
23:05 (MSK) – According to unconfirmed information, the area of Nizhniye Kambrody was shelled using MLRS. Fierce battles are ongoing in the Shchastye area. Several aircraft left in in the direction of Starobelsk.
21:00 (MSK) – The enemy has been shelling Lugansk with massive artillery strikes without interruption for the past several hours.
21:15 (MSK) – Artillery shelling of Lisichansk was commenced, coming from Krivaya Luka.
21:30 (MSK) – An MLRS worked off its volleys at the area of the Lugansk airport. According to unconfirmed information, the airport has been devastated; there is smoke rising in the Metallist district.
21:50 (MSK) – Marinovka is under the Militia’s control. The Ukrainian Armed Forces abandoned settlement and ended up being encircled. Two Ukrainian soldiers were taken prisoner. There are also trophy armoured vehicles. Retreating, the Ukrainian forces left their heavily wounded and dead soldiers on the field of battle.
23:02 – July 16, 2014 – Information from LifeNews Journalists
The Militia shot down a Ukrainian aircraft on the border with Russia. A source in the law enforcement structures of the Rostov region told LifeNews that an airplane of the Ukrainian air force entered Russian airspace, performed a turn and departed in the direction of Ukraine; however, it was shot down by the Militia at the height of six thousand meters. The incident occurred at approximately 19:00 on July 16th. The fighter jet was observed over the territory of Russia. The plane could be seen as far away as Kujbyshevo. It was performing a turn around, intending to fly toward Ukraine; however, the militiamen were able to shoot it down. According to preliminary information, the pilot of the aircraft managed to catapult out. The shot down plane fell onto the territory of Ukraine.
23:11 – July 16, 2014 – Clarification from Igor Strelkov
[Ukrainian deserters] should be turning themselves in to the commandants’ offices of the Militia. Upon voluntary surrender, and following an obligatory interrogation, the prisoners will be provided with accommodations and meals according to the norms set out for the fighters of the Militia. Thereafter, they will be able to decide for themselves whether to return home or to stay in the accommodation centres until the termination of hostilities. No one will be compelled to join the ranks of the Militia.
July 16, 2014 – Video Regarding the Capture of Marinovka (DPR)
Video: Interview with a Militiaman, Trophies, a Situation Report
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From Gleb Bazov:
Emerging Evidence Points to #MH17 Being a Ukrainian False Flag
Thanks Gayle @01:48 – and Gleb, and the whole global community working on the forensic aftermath of this.
There are two kinds of people in the world right now: (1) those who are in a cursing, murderous rage against Russia and (2) those who are quietly hoping that the free world can actually prove this false flag to have been planned and directed by the US and its co-conspirators.
This is a very blatant act. And it’s been sewn together in a pretty ragged fashion, it seems to me. Maybe it can all unravel.
I don’t see this as much of a setback for the good guys. The freedom fighters will not stop their war against Kiev (and I hope they don’t stop shooting planes down, even for a minute). Russia will act soberly as ever.
But the ammunition that was just put on the table for the good guys to seize in this global information war seems huge to me – if we can only seize it and fire true.
Far from being a negative event for Novorossiya, I think it’s a huge risk and potential mis-step by the US. The people lost in the info war are already lost. But maybe the eventual revealing of this false flag – if it can be revealed successfully – can start some of them wondering, over time.
Ukraine Releases YouTube Clip “Proving” Rebels Shot Down Malaysian Flight MH-17
Almost exactly one year ago, the world was nearly brought to the verge of a global war by proxy involving the US and Russia …..
….is this merely yet another false flag provocation from the same “masterminds” that tried to launch another world war to benefit a few billionaire Qatari emirs with nothing but a YouTube clip in the summer of 2013?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comments
Personally, I have long passed the point where I give any credance to anything that comes from the west, it is all a sham. I have come to understand the nature of this Satanic evil and who’s heart have been poisoned. For the longest time I wondered ‘where is the institutional memory’ for the implementation of evil, misery and horror; now I understand. Following current events often siskens but seldom surpirese me. What is of interest is what will be destroyed next.
I imagine that Putin has dealt with far more than enough to lose heart or be distracted from his goals by the needless destruction of innocents.
But I guess I’m preaching to the choir.
T1
Gayle,
Yes. But I have to say, despite everything we’ve talked about here and knowing what we know, it was still really a blow to the solar plexus to see you (accurately!) refer to the free world and (choke) realize it wasn’t us.
I’d imagine Russia and Novorossiya have both got pretty solid documentation of what really happened, I’m guessing it was a (very poorly-executed) joint activity by the US, Mossad and Kiev, and I’m praying this horrible event will end up looking so embarrassingly awful that even the worst of the Empire’s captive chieftans will find it utterly impossible to support.
We *could* fall that quickly. And if we did, Israel could even be swept away with us. Too late for the innocents slaughtered but, oh, wouldn’t it be wonderful if we, and they, could be kept from killing and maiming any more? When we fall, I do think it will be quick and I do think we’re en route. But I worry that if we have too gentle a landing, our oligarchs will simply jump ship and plunder elsewhere. Dear God please, please, let’s hold them to account this time!
Anonymous T1, please employ a username when you post “anonymously” in the future. Thanks, The Pug
Thus, the Ukie “air force offensive” is simply a loud fart into a puddle.
The man’s got a way with words.
Can I please request something, before many comments appear?
Most Vineyard comment threads contain references to the Anglo-Zionists. To the British and the Americans.
Please remember that our nations have been occupied by zionist Jews just as surely as Russia was occupied by zionist Jews under the Bolsheviks (80 per cent of the first Soviet being Jewish, as Putin himself has pointed out).
They have stolen our money and plundered our gold reserves.
They turned the world’s biggest industrial giants into de-industrialised shells living on borrowed money.
They -literally- took our factories apart, and shipped them overseas. And they -literally- got our Vichy governments to -pay- them to do it. To -subsidise- them for stealing our industry.
They took control of our media, and our courts, and our schools.
They passed laws destroying our families, subsidising divorce, paying unmarried mothers, and stripping fathers of their rights.
They passed laws -paying- local governments to steal children from loving parents, and give them to homosexual couples for adoption. They passed -quotas- that the government has to meet.
They spend billions of our own money to propagandise to young children about homosexuality and casual sex.
They destroyed proud and successful cultures, that once boasted some of the world’s best educational systems, and then they flooded our countries with millions of semi-literate immigrants who knew nothing of our values.
The Jews have sent our young men to die in countless wars for them, every bit as cruelly as they sent Russian Christians to fight their battles. My own grandfather was conscripted to fight in one of their bankers’ wars, and bore the scars of being the only member of his original squad to survive an attack. His best friend’s brains were shot out, and pieces of them were still stuck to my grandfather when they found him.
They spy on us more than the KGB or Stasi ever spied on Soviet Bloc citizens. The Stasi ‘only’ listened to 25 per cent of phone calls: they listen to 100 per cent of ours. The KGB didn’t have CCTV cameras on evey street in Russia: they do in the UK. The KGB didn’t pat down people trying to catch a bus or enter a football stadium: they do in the USA.
This evil isn’t ‘Anglo’. This isn’t anything to do with the culture behind Beowulf, King Lear or the Bill of Rights. This isn’t ordinary British or American people. It’s Jews. Please remember that.
Anonymous Anonymous said…
“For the longest time I wondered ‘where is the institutional memory’ for the implementation of evil, misery and horror; now I understand.”
Amen.
The best trick the devil ever pulled was persuading us that he didn’t exist. Or perhaps I should say ‘the devils’. The serim, shedim and šêdu, to use the Tribe’s own words.
Russia must stand. It cannot be allowed to fall. It bears the weight of our children’s futures.
Australian evening news, 6-7pm = 9-10am UTC, 04-05am Florida,
Day of national mourning. All pollies grief stricken.
Poroshenko declared it terrorist immediately.
Western media palavered nothing else all day. The flight path was completely okay:-
Eff Me!
Conclusion:- it was an Empire job.
But with grim amusement the Oz media is principally mourning the deaths of 28 Australians and, get this, a hundred delegates all heading for the Aids Conference 2014 in Melbourne.
And if ten dead poofter should accidentally fall there’d be no dead poofters hanging on the wall.
I am a pre-60’s Latin dogmatic intolerant Catholic. With grim understanding, not satisfaction—this mass murder is terrible—I dare suppose the hand of the just good God amid the broader horror.
this among several informative posts at niqnaq–
https://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/crazy-ivan-asked-me-to-look-up-this-what-i-described-as-nato-opens-a-situation-room-for-ukraine-operations/
the substantive point cannot be obscured: this is a NATO facility, it is now as of Jul 12 (six days ago) officially open, and large sums are allocated to its function, whatever that is. I suggest that its real function is not just to ‘conduct information warfare against Russia,’ but that it is a serious electronic war room and that its first project has been controlling the Malaysia airliner operation. This has been conducted more or less on the model of the 1983 Korean Airlines Flight 007, which was intentionally directed into Soviet airspace so that it would be shot down. But it is important to hang on to the fact that in today’s case, it was the DPR who were known to have “Buk” and to have used it, who were intended to perform the shootdown, as indeed I believe they did. Therefore, to blame Russia for it is pure misdirection. The intended target of the operation is the DPR, who can now be treated as “international terrorists” and targeted directly by NATO – RB
A surface to air missile takes not less that 12-15 seconds, if not more, to arrive to an altitude of 11 km with a 60 degree angle trajectory.
The flares of its engine are routinely detected by military satellites (that of course are now particularly looking in south-east Ukraine). When flight Siberian Airline 1812 was hit on 4 October 2001 by an ukrainian S-200 missile fired during military manouvres from Crimea while flying above the Black Sea, is was a USA military satellite that saw the flares of the rocket and revealed it.
No one, up to now (USA, Russia and others), have shown or spoken ofsuch evidence.
If, instead, the airliner was shot down at close distance by a fighter, no evidence could be seen from satellites.
Novorossia has no fighters. For Russia should be crazy to send fighters above Ukraine to shot down an airliner.
So, if it was a provocation, conclude you who other as the means and the interests to do such a crime.
Recently, during Nato manouvres in East Europe, tens of civilian aircrafts disappeared from the radars of the civil control to reappear several minutes later in different locations.
Rosenft’s Lisichansk Oil Refinery is burning.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHqU6r3-u_o
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oH-pDt6BRPY
Ukraine of course claims it is the “terrorists” blowing up the very infrastructure they are trying to capture. Or maybe its Russia blowing up infrastructure owned by its own companies. That makes tons of sense.
How dumb do these guys think we are?
Regardless of who shot it down or how they did it, that plane had no earthly reason to be flying where it was. Everything that happened stems from that one immutable fact and the truth will come out sooner or later, depending as always on power politics. Meanwhile, ITAR-TASS has a piece up reminding (certain) people (who may have forgotten) that:
“The stretch of the flight route of the Boeing 777 airliner of Malaysia Airlines and the site of its crash were within the zone of operation of two Ukrainian batteries of the S-200 long-range anti-aircraft missile system and three squadrons of the Buk-M1 medium-range anti-aircraft missile system, the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry told ITAR-TASS on Friday.
“Russian radio-technical facilities during July 17 were recording the work of the 9s18 Kupol radar station of the Buk-M1 squadron, stationed in the area of the Styla settlement (30 km south of Donetsk),” the ministry added.
The ministry stressed that technical features of the Buk-M1 air defense system allow it to exchange information between the squadrons of one battalion. “Thus, the launch of the missiles could also be made from all the squadrons, located in the Avdeyevka settlement (8 km north of Donetsk) or in Gruzsko-Zaryanskoye (25 km east of Donetsk),” Russian Defense Ministry stressed.”
The piece ends with another shot across the bow:
“The ministry also stressed that on July 17, the air defense means of the Russian armed forces were not working in that area and Russian Air Force planes were not flying in the Russian regions, bordering on the Ukrainian Donetsk region. “This information is fully confirmed by the air data recorders,” the ministry added.”
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741304
Polish-speaking thefts like Tusk from Civic Party have claimed that they are sending against Noworussia this 12 self propelled artillery guns:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152mm_SpGH_DANA
Probably they are coming from Afganistan with Polish crews.
I hope you will send back to us.
this bastards in plastic bags Andrew,
Meanwhile, Malaysia will be sending 62 people to investigate the crash site, while the airline itself will be taking relatives of the victims. And of course, the FBI will be crawling all over there too.
At first glance, this “just” sounds like a three-ring circus in the middle of a war zone, but it shouldn’t take more than half a nano-second to realize the incredible opportunity here to change the course of this war in every way imagineable and quite a few that aren’t. It’s a shame the Resistance hasn’t got the manpower to provide babysitters 24/7 for each of them. Don’t you wonder how many “relatives” and inspectors already have orders to off Strelkov?
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/mh17-tragedy-malaysian-investigators-sent-to-ukraine-unsc-sets-emergency-meet_948245.html
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140718/191014975/Malaysia-Airlines-to-Take-Victims-
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140718/191009824/FBI-Investigators-to-Head-to-Malaysian-Plane-Crash-Site-in.html
Grieved,
I was so shaken by your comment on the free world that I put Gayle’s name on it instead of yours! I’m truly sorry so let me belatedly give credit where credit is due. I’m still reeling from it, actually.
@T1, anonymous
This pityful fabricated clip day before Boeing accident was shown in many Polish mainstream media.
Junta is a bunch of amateurs, who can;t start provocation properly and school students can fabricate better than this idiots. You don;t need Russian FSB, when every YouTube user can expose thier chidlish lies.
BTW. Now every hothead can ask himself, what have happend if Putin have listen to you and ordered to establish no-fly zone.
Putin and his people have known that it was possibility of provocation. They know what they are doing, they well informed what will happen, and they are waiting for mistakes of their enemies like the last one.
Andrew,
The MH17 event signals an escalation of the conflict, as the US will use it as a pretext for deeper involvement and Russia will not just cancel their long-term strategy involving Ukraine. Russia may agree to tighter border security in cooperation with OCSE but the border is less of an issue now. Sufficient manpower, equipment and expertise is in place to defend Donetsk and Lugansk while waging an expanded guerilla campaign throughout the country. South American volunteers may show up. Now is the turning point for the last honorable remnants in the UA army choose sides. Kiev is vulnerable to a coup, living on the edge, especially as MH17 did not change the military calculus on the ground and any foreign intervention on behalf of Kiev will be matched by the Kremlin. Putin has called again for a ceasefire, Poroshenko cannot and will not deliver, 20 civilians died in Lugansk today already.
From Gleb Blazov’s site we have a full breakdown of a Kiev ATC controller (Expat Spaniard) furiously tweeting what was happening 7 minutes after the disappearance of MH17 when UKie military showed up to confiscate Radar logs and round up all the foreign workers.
If the spanish air traffic controller is geniune, then his comments are pointing to Igor Kolostomy-bag: Spaniard claims that the Ukraine military knew that the plane was shot down by the Ukrainian side but didn’t didn’t know who on the Ukrainian side shot down the plane BUT the interior ministry did know –> that points to the Kolostomy-bag(Igor Kolomoisky).
Saker and readers, apparently the Twitter account of the Spanish traffic controller has been blocked. “That page doesn’t exist”. At least I can’t see it….
From Ria Novosti today :
BRUSSELS, July 18 (RIA Novosti) – The European Commission does not know on what basis the United States concluded that a Malaysian Airlines passenger plane, which crashed in eastern Ukraine, was shot down by a missile, a source in the EC told RIA Novosti on Friday.
“One must ask them. The European Commission does not have the data of where the US got the information that was reproduced by mass media,” the EC representative said.
The evil bastards. This has all the hallmarks of a typical CIA false flag attack. Just when their puppet Nazi scumbags are suffering massive losses and are desperately in need of a ceasefire a civilian passenger plane gets shot out of the sky and all western MSM presstitutes immediately point the finger at Russia before the plane even stops smouldering. Human life means nothing to these evil scumbags as long as it advances their geopolitical aims. May God bring back upon them tenfold all the death and destruction they have caused to millions of innocents worldwide and I pray I am still alive that day to see America get its comeuppance.
This isn’t ordinary British or American people. It’s Jews. Please remember that.
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Please remember also that there are millions upon millions of British and Americans who are the willing executioners of the Beast!
(and many millions more who just don’t give a damn…..)
I have misspelled thevies, sry.
Andrew,
@Anonymous (18 July, 2014 06:05):
This evil isn’t ‘Anglo’. This isn’t anything to do with the culture behind Beowulf, King Lear or the Bill of Rights. This isn’t ordinary British or American people. It’s Jews. Please remember that.
Saker has explained over and over what he means by ‘AngloZionist’. It has nothing to do with your crude, sweeping anti-Semitism. Most Jews are fine, just as most white are fine. But there’s a bad element from among the Jews which has for centuries now co-operated (co-conspired?) with an equally bad element from among the Anglo-Saxons (who have always been totally willing to sell out ‘their own kind’). That was true in British Empire, and it is true in the American Empire. Every barrel has some bad apples. Quit judging an entire race/religion of people just because some are bad.
@Anonymous (18 July, 2014 12:55):
Polish-speaking thefts like Tusk from Civic Party have claimed that they are sending against Noworussia this 12 self propelled artillery guns: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152mm_SpGH_DANA
Probably they are coming from Afganistan with Polish crews.
I hope you will send back to us.
this bastards in plastic bags Andrew,
Ha, ha! Tusk and Sikorski. Are they giving the Empire yet another blow-job?
Well, these radar guided missile launchers can be taken over so that you can think you are targeting something very different than you are. I think the Israelis have done that to the Syrians until they got very, very hip. If this is done with people on the ground then that is a sophisticated special ops, indeed.. not a crude one.
“Recently, during Nato manouvres in East Europe, tens of civilian aircrafts disappeared from the radars of the civil control to reappear several minutes later in different locations.”
That should’ve been clue for all of us what was coming.
Is it ONLY a coincidence that the voting for the EU ministers was postponed till end of Aug just hours before the catastrophe of MH17?
This false flag shoot many birds with one stone: 1) warning to Putin – next time it’s your plane 2) creating bias in public opinion against the Donbass Resistance labeling them as terrorists 3) punishing Maleysia for her support for Palestine 4) making the Ukrainian hostilities global 5) creating animosity between Netherlands (with EU) and Russia
I am _very_ surprised that Russia did not predict such scenario, the global evil cabal _always_ design its murderous schemes in such a multifacet way
This sounds like an interesting change in Russian policy. In the meantime the Ukies are desperately crying for help. I think that their whining means that they are experiencing large losses. It must be quite a humiliation for the fascist bunch with its delusion of grandeur to ask for help from others. Not so long ago, those thugs thought they were invincible just because they could terrorize and slaughter unarmed civilians in Odessa, Mariupol and elsewhere.
Dear The Saker,
@Anonymous
“Recently, during Nato manouvres in East Europe, tens of civilian aircrafts disappeared from the radars of the civil control to reappear several minutes later in different locations”.
Good point – thanks for the reminder….
I was disgusted by the open security council meeting today. A complete farce. Lets get the facts first. Just done to blame Russia or anti-Kiev’s. Glad he got a few digs in too……like Why was the plane in a combat zone? Why did Ukraine airspace allow it? etc…..
Churkin seemed like he’s had enough tbh :(. Don’t balme him. The UNSC is a complete joke!
People’s lives aren’t some political ploy UK/US/Australia and Canada!
Rgds,
Veritas
Of course it’s horrible that an aircraft with 300 human beings is shot from the skies. It’s awful. 300 civilians dead in a conflict they were not in.
But what about locals on the ground?
Why are we so concerned about 300 foreigners in an airplane when many times that, also innocent civilians, have been shredded and burnt by bombs on the ground and yet noone seems to give a shit? What about the innocents of Slavyansk? Are their deaths any less important?
Is a dutch citizen going on a holiday and being blown from the sky more of a victim than a woman in Slaviansk who was shredded by shrapnel going about her daily business?
Several indigenous peoples of the planet, including native American Hopi Indians who have even addressed the UN on this matter, have long been warning of a coming day of “purification” when all evil will be purged from this earth if mankind didn’t change its ways and greet each other as brothers. Of course the majority of the people of the planet will not survive this cleansing they say but there will be survivors here and there to carry on. Many people may scoff at this especially the Satanists in Washington who don’t believe in God and only pay lip service to Him, but I do, you only have to look around you at the state the world is in today to know that time is not far off. There will come a reckoning for the evil men. You can count on it.
Seamus Padraig said…
@Anonymous (18 July, 2014 06:05):
This evil isn’t ‘Anglo’. This isn’t anything to do with the culture behind Beowulf, King Lear or the Bill of Rights. This isn’t ordinary British or American people. It’s Jews. Please remember that.
Saker has explained over and over what he means by ‘AngloZionist’. It has nothing to do with your crude, sweeping anti-Semitism. Most Jews are fine, just as most white are fine. But there’s a bad element from among the Jews which has for centuries now co-operated (co-conspired?) with an equally bad element from among the Anglo-Saxons (who have always been totally willing to sell out ‘their own kind’). That was true in British Empire, and it is true in the American Empire. Every barrel has some bad apples. Quit judging an entire race/religion of people just because some are bad.
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I suggest
let’s call them natoists
derived from NATO
NATO-ist
NATO-ists
natoists
The latest physical evidence points to the Malaysian plane being downed by an air-to-air missile. (Probably from Ukie fighter jet.)
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/pb.1452285018328179.-2207520000.1405709893./15
Seamus Padraig 16:45
Sikorski just figures that this time he’ll finally get paid — and he really, really, really wants to shut up Annie dearest with a fine new house and grander lifestyle in Brussels.
Kiev: Furious Ukrainian Internet users have bombarded the social networking sites of French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel for allegedly cosying up to Russia despite the ongoing fighting in their country.
Thousands flooded Merkel’s Facebook page with critical messages after she was pictured laughing with Russian President Vladimir Putin at Sunday’s World Cup final in Rio de Janeiro.
“Danke Frau Ribbentrop (Thanks Mrs Ribbentrop)” read the most common post, in reference to Nazi-era foreign minister Joachim von Ribbentrop who signed a secret deal with the Soviet Union to carve up Poland.
The deluge of comments prompted a terse response from the German leader’s media team.
“Dear fans of the Angela Merkel site, there is currently a spam attack on this page that floods all posts with certain comments,” the online editor of Merkel’s page wrote, adding that they would delete messages that “contain insults, slander, racism and political extremism.”
Wow. The amount and level of raging, irrational, racist hate for Russia on the internet right now is insane. Only something that has been prepared and executed over decades, centuries. I would say – if that’s what the US wants, the final showdown – they have achieved it. As an American, I’m glad to die in a nuclear holocaust to say ‘fuck you’ to America. Russia, don’t back down. Novorussia, don’t back down.
All those acts of terror, including flooding Angela’s FB account by paid angry trolls are clear sign of desperation of the global evil cabal, they must running out of fuel and see the beginning of their end approaching fast..
It seems that this s*it with blaming MH17 downing on the rebels won’t fly, at least not in Europe.
Unfortunately that means more attempts at escalation with WMD: bio, chem, nuclear.
I have this feeling that soon will see announcement by Kiev putschist of a discovery in the West of mass grave of civilians killed by the “terrorists from Donbass”.
Srebrenica/Houla moment in Ukraine coming in 1, 2, 3, …
@ Josh 18 JULY, 2014 19:01
Your link says Content Currently Unavailable at Facebook. Is THIS the photo and its comments you were trying to post?
Gleb Bazov
Thanks for translating these. I’d read many of them with Yandex, which only partly makes them understandable.
вот так
Hi Saker, I’ve just read this information :
http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/20345
Is this true ?
-Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova to obtain non-NATO ally status, increase in transfer of military assets.-
“The U.S. Congress passed in two readings a Russian aggression prevention bill that provides major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova for purposes of the transfer or possible transfer of defense articles or defense services. The bill was submitted to the competent commission for being prepared for the final reading, APA reports, quoting the official website of the U.S. Congress.
The bill directs President Barack Obama to increase U.S. Armed Forces interactions with the armed forces of Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, and Serbia; and U.S and NATO security assistance to such states.
The bill also amends the Natural Gas Act to apply the expedited application and approval process for natural gas exports to World Trade Organization members, and urges the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the Trade and Development Agency, the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC), the World Bank Group, and the European Bank for Reconstruction to promote assistance to Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova in order to exploit natural gas and oil reserves and to develop alternative energy sources.”
Regards to you and all.
@ Meadros: ´Thanks´! Because your off topic hasbara racist comment, Nobody can quote this very important Saker article to somewhat more ´mainstream´ forums.
Talking about sabotage!