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JFK Assassination… Conspiracy or not?

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  1. fred on November 09, 2017  ·  at 9:03 pm EST/EDT

    So old school, these 55 years on.

    For any of their future planned FFs with convenient patsies,they won’t even have to spend inordinate months of lead time setting up real ones like LHO, only to have ridiculously simple gaffes give it away like publishing the patsy’s full bio in the ‘morning papers of a country on the other side of the IDL, when they’re not even yet a suspect; they’ll just issue wanted posters & homerland security alerts by creating a huge number of suspects out of thin air, which don’t exist in real life anywhere on earth!

    so of course no one involved directly in the misdeed will ever be detained or tried.

    see here:Nvidia what it has out now. likely gamers have known this for some time.
    absolutely impossible to tell apart.

    These People Do Not Exist 11/2/17
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWcS1aNXZg

    rare true technology news item for that site, BTW. Just look over their vid names,they got every
    wacko topic covered: flat earthers, Planet Xers, aliens from every galaxy, or even antarctica.

    Great fits like a glove site for someone like Al ‘Jabba the Jones’ Al to host when he moves on after finally loses that last marble he’s got left rolling around in his head, which he blames on background studio noise or aliens interfering with his truth mission.

  2. Ann on November 10, 2017  ·  at 12:25 am EST/EDT

    good discussion – where can we take it from here ? FOX NEWS –

    • Martin John on November 10, 2017  ·  at 12:46 am EST/EDT

      We can expand quite a bit with a documentary on site in Dallas. Reconstruct the whole thing. Not a difficult task.

    • Martin John on November 12, 2017  ·  at 12:08 pm EST/EDT

      We can reconstruct it without ruffling any feathers at all. We hire a surveyor in Dallas. I can send him the whole file with all my calculations. He can check it over. I have established the location of the shooter, I believe within a foot. Our surveyor can help us set up our movie camera on this exact location. We then film our limousine (or initially any car, need to make adjustments) driving down the centre lane of Elm street. We get a clear stick on label made with a red line circle about a foot diameter, like in the video. We stick it on the windshield exactly where we know the bullet hole was. We film the limo coming down Elm street. We review the film. We expect to find one frame with the President’s face exactly in the centre of the circle. If we get this result, we have reconstructed that shot.

      You might want to contact Oliver Stone. He’s a Vietnam Vet… knows all about guns and bullets, and of course the JFK assassination.

    • Martin John on November 17, 2017  ·  at 7:16 pm EST/EDT

      Don’t need a surveyor. Have done more accurate plots and positively identified the location of the gunman. Don’t even need to get out of our car to reconstruct the shot, film from passenger window. No one would ever know.

  3. Павел (Paul) on November 10, 2017  ·  at 3:28 am EST/EDT

    Francis Richard Conolly … British Historian … remember his name … watch his videos.
    JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man’s Trick
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

  4. _smr on November 10, 2017  ·  at 3:40 am EST/EDT

    ZionIntel works by psyops whenever it can. As much as possible is staged, matrixed and hoaxed, the rest can be taken care of by the spin doctors of ZionNews and ZionHollywood.

    JFK, from the notorious crypto-Jewish Kennedy mafia clan, obviously, was a Zion lifetime actor and therefore a paid actor with a non-disclosure agreement in the blockbuster JFK assassination production. As were all the famous extras from Lee Harvey Oswald to Jack Ruby, all of them Jewish or crypto-Jewish and ZionIntel assets.

    Josh Guetzkow just took apart another famous ZionIntel hoax, namely the faked murder of Yizhak Rabin in 1995.

    http://mileswmathis.com/rabin.pdf

    • Uncle Bob 1 on November 10, 2017  ·  at 4:11 am EST/EDT

      I’m just curious,does everyone you don’t like have to be Jewish. I mean as soon as you don’t like them do you say to yourself,”oh, they are Jewish”.The Kennedy family as far as can be checked was Catholic Irish on all sides.And Ireland has always had few Jews, so before the 1820’s (which few records on them predate),its more than a little doubtful they had any Jewish ancestry. You might want to expand your dislike list a bit wider.Every bad actor in the world doesn’t have to be Jewish. I know that might be a strange concept for you,but its true.And worth thinking about.

      • PokeTheTruth on November 10, 2017  ·  at 6:31 pm EST/EDT

        Dear Uncle,

        Now that you broached the “third rail” of forbidden speech, I have a question the answer to which you may know, not know or have no opinion. But I offer it for your consideration.

        From a historical perspective (excluding religious dogma), the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) says the Israelites split apart into the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah due to a dispute about the cost of maintaining the first temple after King Solomon died. Ten tribes moved to the north versus the two that remained in the south of ancient Palestine. It is reasonable to assume the population of Hebrews that made up the ten tribes were more in numbers than the two tribes.

        History tells us the Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrians and the majority of all the Hebrews that made up the ten tribes were relocated elsewhere. From this point on, we have little knowledge of what happened to the Hebrew population that were affected according to ancient text. Poof, they disappeared, gone from the face of the Earth!

        As a modern day allegory, imagine a family of 12 male siblings. Ten of them had a disagreement with the other two brothers. The ten brothers decide to separate themselves from the other two. The ten brothers found out long after the fact, they were left out of their father’s last will and testament. It happened because the other two brothers conspired with the father’s law firm to alter the will to receive all the wealth, property, commiseration and familial recognition for themselves. They got a court of law to decree the other ten brothers were “lost”.

        As I see it, the descendants of the Tribe of Judah (ancient Judeans referred to by the Romans as “Jews”) have committed egregious fraud by claiming all the benefits of ancient Israel’s religious history. Only the Jews have suffered the pains of bigotry and racism, including being victims of wanton acts of murder and robbery.

        What about the other Hebrews of the Tribes of Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulon, Gad, Asher, Joseph, Dan and Naphtali? Well, they don’t exist because Jewish historians have expelled them from their history. The modern day progeny of those Hebrews where every they are in the world today, are not deserving of being considered the posterity of Abrahamic lineage, that is to say, “God’s chosen people”. If you doubt my statement, consider how Ethiopian Jews are treated in Israel today by their tribal brethren. A Hebrew of one of the “ten lost tribes” would be scorned as well. The historical fact that Jews are not the only remaining descendants of the biblical Hebrews have been hidden from public scrutiny for centuries.

        My question is this; do you think the Hebrews of the world who are not Jews should speak up and demand (1) they be recognize as lawful descendants of ancient Israel (2) they be entitled to all the benefits of modern day Israeli citizenship (3) they be compensated in an international civil court of law for all the social and financial benefits denied them in the past by Jewish bigotry and racism?

  5. Troy Ounce on November 10, 2017  ·  at 4:36 am EST/EDT

    Certain Indivuals Are getting away with murder.

  6. Roger Pack on November 10, 2017  ·  at 5:28 am EST/EDT

    DOJ Files Prove President Kennedy & Robert Kennedy fighting Zionists When Murdered

    http://www.targetfreedomusa.com/doj-released-files-president-kennedy-ag-robert-kennedy-fighting-zionists-when-murdered/

  7. Katherine on November 10, 2017  ·  at 8:04 am EST/EDT

    Of course it was a conspiracy.
    The mother of all subsequent conspiracies and lies.
    Gulf of Tonkin, 2000 election, 9/11, Russia-Gate, etc. etc. etc.
    Every little bit helps in terms of adding a pebble to the pile.
    I like it that this film concentrates on just one piece of evidence.
    For many doubters (of the possibility that there could have been a conspiracy) the stock rejoinder is abstract and hypothetical: “How could it have remained a secret? Who would the conspirators be? Why would anyone do that?” and other ways of putting the cart before the horse.
    None of these hypotheticals have a role when one concentrates on one lie. Viewers can focus on a narrow issue and chew on that nut for a while.

    • Tomo on November 10, 2017  ·  at 2:45 pm EST/EDT

      Psychopathy 101:
      psychos know normal people find it hard to believe anyone normal would lie so outrageously. That’s exactly why cold-blooded psychopaths (i.e. Hilary, Goebles etc) use that trick. they are masters at turning human instincts and biology against us.
      (Big Pharma/Food do the same as they turn the fact that we find hyper-palatable foods irresistible -so they put sugar, fat and salt into everything)
      Psychopaths also like to try to make us feel sorry for them whenever possible (that way it’s much easier to exploit us). I.e. I am a victim too!!
      Even Hitler said that in his Mein Kampf: to lie outrageously because such lies are much more likely to be believed by non-psychopaths.
      What we are dealing with here is not just individual psychopaths but the whole country/culture structured to behave on a large scale as a psychopath-as-a-culture.
      Big lies + ‘please feel sorry for me (Don’t tell!) + being charming + “I am just like you!! + having no mercy for weaker parties = It’s pretty likely that you are dealing with a psychopath (or a psychopathic culture)

    • Martin John on November 10, 2017  ·  at 11:55 pm EST/EDT

      We all know it was a conspiracy. It’s much more difficult to definitively prove it. That’s why we need to agressively focus on one line of important evidence. This line of evidence definitively proves a shot fired from the front, a second gunman, and therefore by definition… a conspiracy!

  8. Katherine on November 10, 2017  ·  at 8:06 am EST/EDT

    P.S. Somewhat OT, but speaking of conspiracies, I having started Alex Krainer’s book on Bill Browder (mentioned on earlier threads). So far, it is excellent, and even funny.
    Katherine

    • Taras 77 on November 11, 2017  ·  at 12:01 am EST/EDT

      Agree that it might be OT; at the risk of deletion, I wanted to link this article on browder. It may not add anything new but it is a fairly reasonable summary. Interesting that browder banned the author from one of his presentations:

      http://russia-insider.com/en/exposing-deception-behind-bill-browders-magnitsky-act/ri21507

  9. B.F. on November 11, 2017  ·  at 2:04 pm EST/EDT

    This video is partially correct. In fact there were three shooters (at least), using the famous triangular method of assassination. The first bullet came from the front, as was correctly presented in the video. It struck JFK in the throat. The second bullet came from the rear, hitting JFK in the back. The third bullet came from the Grassy Knoll, hitting JFK in the right temple. This ofcourse does not mean that only three bullets were fired. According to witnesses, between four and five bullets were used, of which one or two missed. As for Lee H. Oswald, he stated before TV cameras that he was the patsy. That is correct. He was. Proof of this lies in that famous AP photograph, which shows Oswald in the street, watching the motorcade.

    • Martin John on November 11, 2017  ·  at 7:44 pm EST/EDT

      The purpose of the video was to prove a conspiracy by focussing on just one line of evidence that provides us definitive proof, the throat wound, bullet hole windshield, south knoll gunman. Here is a map showing 10 shots fired possible scenario.

      http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/images/dealeyplazashots.jpg

      I think it’s pretty close.

      There is much controversy about who is standing in the doorway. I think it’s more likely to be Billy Lovelady. Oswald said he was in the first floor lunch room at the time.

  10. Andrew S MacGregor on November 17, 2017  ·  at 7:24 am EST/EDT

    A couple of years ago I received an email from a friend who had received it from a barrister. The email rubbished the findings of Jim Fitzer in regard to the JFK assassination and was written in an authentic manner and gave the impression of being an authority on the assassination. It also included details of the Port Arthur massacre and the shooting of PWC Yvonne Fletcher outside the Libyan Embassy in 1984. I concluded the author of this email to be Joe Vialls as he is know in Australia and England or as he is known in America as Ari ben Menashe.
    I made comparisons with a book written by Tony Collins called ‘Open Verdict’ which also includes details of Joe Vialls and then I did a comparison with the book ‘Spycatcher’ by Peter Wright of MI5, specifically pages 160-162.
    Bill Harvey spoke to Peter Wright in October 1961 in regard to obtaining the services of an SAS hit squad. Bill Harvey would have known the exact team he was after and he got it.
    Joe Vialls/Ari ben Menashe learnt to speak Farsi whilst in Iran during the troubles of 1952-3 When the Prime Minister was deposed and ‘The Shah’ was placed on the throne.
    Bill Harvey would have met the team whilst they were working in West Germany in the late 50’s and early 60’s.
    When you look at the photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald being led away from the Texas Theatre, you will see a man with a cigar clenched by his teeth, wearing a dark suit and just behind him was Sgt Jerry Hill, The Dallas Police claim that man was Officer Bentley, but when interviewed by the media Bentley had a sprained ankle and the man holding Lee Harvey Oswald did not have a sprained ankle. The man holding Lee Harvey Oswald was Joe Vialls/Ari ben Menashe.
    Again when reading the initial statements made by witnesses in the shooting of Officer JD Tippit, the description fits perfectly Joe Vialls/Ari ben Menashe. But the most telling was the shooting of LHO in the police garage on the Sunday, and it was there that we were able to identify the whole SAS team. The first to be identified was given the name Detective/Officer William J (Joseph) HARRISON. Harrison is left-handed. The shooter on the ‘Grassy Knoll’ was left-handed. Harrison was South African and was known in South Australia as Johannes Overbeeke.
    The second person to be identified was standing almost next to Harrison, and I believe he was referred to as Officer Miller. I believe he was the shooter in the Dal-Tex building, and his name was Henry John Ayres aka Alexandre Henri Legault, and he passed away in Alaska about 5-10 years ago.
    How could anyone think that Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald? Really, just because the idiot box told you. The CIA needed LHO dead, which means that they could not permit an amateur to do the job. Look at the fedora, look at the sunglasses in the top jacket pocket, look at the hair and then finally look at the strange grip the shooter had on the revolver, almost as though the normal index (trigger) finger was missing the top digit. But Ruby’s left index finger was missing the top joint, not his right. And then finally look at the pictures of Jack Ruby being led down the third floor corridor, no suit jacket, no fedora, a short sleeved white shirt almost torn off his torso and his tie also ripped open, and there is William Harrison walking Ruby down the corridor without the cigar he had when he supposedly wrestled with the shooter for all that cameras to see.
    And then something else very strange happened, the media talking head mentions the fact that an ambulance has been called to take LHO to the Parklands Hospital, but it wasn’t an ambulance it was a hearse. It was a bloody hearse and two policemen had to climb in the back door to accompany the body to the hospital. No wonder that Bob Huffinger (whatever his name) did so well in his career after that.
    And this also explains why Ari ben Menashe has always mentioned his ‘problems’ with George HW Bush and the CIA, simply as a cover as he has worked for them since 1963.
    Joe Vialls’ last job was setting up a couple of Iranian patsies, whilst using the name of ‘Ali Kasam’ in the MH370 hi-jacking.

  11. JC on February 21, 2018  ·  at 4:42 am EST/EDT

    Definitely a conspiracy, and many gunmen involved. Here another good explanation mentioning the involvement of later US president Bush: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_7TCe_Fkk.

    Cheers!

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