The retreat from Slavyansk and surrounding area was successful. Losses occurred but they were minimal. ‘Minimal’ is a terrible term. Sounds fine unless you happen to be one of the ‘minimal’.
The world’s eyes and minds were focused on The Cauldron (Slavyansk and Kramatorsk) and the Novorossiya/Russia borders for over two months. During that time many things happened in other areas of Novorossiya, away from prying eyes.
The donations of weapons and equipment from the Ukeland Army were significant, although the Ukeland Air Force gave only one SU 25 as far as is publicly known. Hospitable Mention goes to Militsiya, DAI, SBU and right sector for their generous contributions of light and medium arms and anti tank missiles in addition to the Ukeland Government for their weapons storage depots.
11 July. 24th Mechanized Battalion, based in Lemberg, no longer combat viable. They deployed in lager in the open rolling steppes north of Donetsk. Grad missiles fired in one salvo totally destroyed the battalion and equipment. The losses in troops were very high, estimates are over 400 dead.
Partisan activities have increased in the occupied area of Novorossiya and Kharkov.
11 July, Slavyansk. A Uke column of tanks and BTR’s came under attack. 2 MBT and 3 BTR destroyed.
10 July, night. A large Uke supply column ambushed near Lugansk with significant losses.
09 July. Command structure for Army of Novorossiya in place and operating.
11 July. Ukeland troops, mainly right sector, cut off and surrounded Donetsk Aerodrome. Two units Arrow anti aircraft missile launchers in positions of Army of Novorossya. Units donated by Ukeland Army last week.
New ‘peace plan’ formulated by President Poroshenko of Ukeland is the same as the last one which Ukeland did not honor. Army of Novorossiya is to disarm and surrender, throw themselves on the mercy of Ukeland or ‘return to Russia’, no negotiations offered. One would question his sanity.
Heavy fighting near Kramatorsk involving a Ukeland armor battalion and partisans. So far 3 MBT destroyed and one captured. Loses unknown at this time.
USA has demanded the release by Russia of detained female Ukeland pilot involved in the murder of two Russian journalists. Woman went to Russia to visit babushka using false documents and was arrested. She was in camouflage uniform. One would question her sanity also.
Reports of foreigners fighting in various right sector ‘battalions’ being identified for prosecution for terrorist acts are confirmed.
Reports of all right sector involved in Odessa and Mariupol massacres identified, murder, arson and terrorism cases prepared for their prosecution confirmed.
10 July. ‘Donbas Battalion’ of right sector destroyed. Again. Actual size of ‘battalion’ is small more than a Rota.
Rumors of a large column of ‘Russian Army’ unit in Lugansk are false. Having seen the video and identified the actual location in Lugansk, the unit is Lugansk Army unit with Ukeland donated trucks and towed medium artillery. This artillery piece can also double as anti tank gun. Using tungsten core ballistic cap solid shot the upgraded Uke tanks with reactive armor are easily holed. Weak points of the MBT are turret to hull join, area of main gun turret front, commander’s cupola, lower hull sides and suspension system, final drive at rear of hull and rear hull plate. Floor of hull is also very vulnerable to anti tank mine that basically fires an antitank hollow charge round against the hull floor.
Militsiya personnel arrested in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and surrounding areas after the evacuation have unknown fate. Strong reports of all being shot are unconfirmed. It is difficult to find sympathy for Militsiyaneers as they are nothing but a criminal pyramid organization. Like DAI (traffic police with the same system) the first of each month each militsiyaneer is given his quota of Hriven to extract from the populace and to be passed up the chain of command. He is allowed to keep 3% as his take, the rest is passed up the chain, each line of command gets their percentage. They are also in the pay of the local and regional mafias. Sympathy from the locals? No.
Great to hear again from you, Juan. Kill the nazis.
From Bulgaria
!! warning .. frivolous ..
Picture: Poroshenko contemplating strategy ..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Extra_flotation_devices.jpg
It looks like a Novorussian sniper has taken out a Ukie sniper. The bullet involved is shown at about 0:54 in. It looks pretty large caliber to me. I suppose that makes sense for a long range sniper weapon.
Maybe Kolomioskiis money is enough:
http://www.mortarinvestments.eu
A T-72 for 37000 €..
mijj 19:33
Excellent. Hilarious. I like the way he sinks even with massive flotation aid.
BTW there is a more effective presentation style. If you type
<a href=”http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Extra_flotation_devices.jpg”>Poroshenko needs to work on his survival strategy</a>
it appears as:
Poroshenko needs to work on his survival strategy
so the url remains hidden to avoid giving away the punchline.
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Juan said:
“11 July, Slavyansk. A Uke column of tanks and BTR’s came under attack. 2 MBT and 3 BTR destroyed. . .
. . . Heavy fighting near Kramatorsk involving a Ukeland armor battalion and partisans. So far 3 MBT destroyed and one captured. Loses unknown at this time.”
Juan, we thought the militia had dropped back, out of these areas and had no logistical lifelines to fight in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk.
Are they trapped or are they behind the enemy and safely operating?
Perhaps, this was prepared tactics and they have caches of weapons, ammo and food, medicine and water.
Could you give some more info on these encounters?
Great to hear from you again Juan. Getting a bit worried about you there.
A hearty Na Zdorovie (На здоровье)to you and your brave colleagues, and to the coming victory parade through the streets of Kiev (Poroshenko, stick that where the sun doesn’t shine with a barbed wire wrapped sharp end of a barge pole as a ramrod).
I wonder… How many losses can the Ukri reasonably take, before the rank and file decides that it’s safer to fight against their Pravyj Sektor & Co. guardians than against the Novorussians? Can we make an educated guess?
Rockerduck
From Germany and East, the European nations are now rethinking the future. Germany and Russia together can guarantee European security and balance the decline of the US with the ascent of China.
Are Merkel and Hollande patriots of Germany and France, and European peacemakers?
Obama is irrelevant at best, currently dangerous.
Putin will be regarded as the greatest statesman of his era, and the savior of international peace. And that is because he is the guarantor of international war.
Ukraine says rebels will pay as missiles kill 23 soldiers.
I’ve run into a moral dilemma. As I’ve seen death way too many times up close and personal, I don’t find any cause to celebrate it, but in this tug of war, I’m rooting for the underdog and still lack the urge to cheer for one side or another.
Morally, I side with justice, but philosophically I sometimes get lost. This is one of those cases.
Am I alone in this?
Poroshenko and his US employers might want to back away from Crimea. They know Russia will retaliate in force for any attack on Crimea. One might say this is what the US wants..there is that line of thinking..Except if they want Russia in the war all they need to do is attack Crimea in the course of their “anti terrorist” campaign. Sure, whole Ukie formations will be exterminated en masse, but who cares, right ? If the goal is to provoke Russia. But then, Russia being provoked, where does that lead ? To a pretext for NATO to enter Ukraine ? When did NATO ever need a pretext for expansion? Well we could say also, that NATO expansion into the borderlands would provide an “excuse” for Russia to take as much of Ukraine back as she wants (including all of it, maybe). What I’m getting at is this – if Kiev (read the US)wants Russia in the war, then they know what to do. Attack Crimea. So far that hasn’t happened. I don’t look for it to happen.
Juan
Good to see you are still around. Thanks for the sitrep. Very informative.
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This info is a bit unrelated but I just came across it and thought it was interesting to share (you might have posted it before, so sorry about it, Saker):
At Russia’s SC meeting in April Shoigu (army) and Fradkov (intelligence) (among many others) voted against sending troops to Ukraine, whereas Bortnikov (FSB) and Patrushev (Secretary of the SC) voted for.
What’s important, however, is that from July 2014 on it is FSB=Bortnikov who was made in charge of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service, Special Forces, and Main Intelligence Directorate. They are all directly subordinate to FSB. That means that it is FSB that will be in charge of any military operations in Ukraine. So the person who posted this on FB basically says that Ukraine should not expect the Russian army but FSB and its subordinates. What can I/we make out of this information?
To Gleb via Saker: it would be great if your blog was available in German and Spanish.
Thanks!
A lot of useful info in this article.
Комплексный разбор боевых действий в районе Саур-Могилы
ЛИТВИНОВ Михаил (A comprehensive analysis of combat actions in the area of Saur-Grave
Mikhail LITVINOV)
http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1405083603 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1405083603
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Daniel Rich 21:20
Poroshenko and his men have no qualms about using MLRS, white phosphorus, flechette weapons and cluster bombs against civilians. They are the attackers. They are knowingly committing war crimes. Military men cannot complain when they are on the receiving end of what they dole out. It is what they signed up for – death and destruction.
That said, the soldiers in the 79th dies an awful death. I do not wish that on anyone.
@Lee:Bortnikov who was made in charge of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service, Special Forces, and Main Intelligence Directorate
Are you saying that the SVR and GRU were both incorporated into the FSB? I don’t believe that. Please clarify and give a source for the info, ok?
Thanks and cheers,
The Saker
Батальон «Азов» был массово искусан гадюками (The battalion “Azov” was massively bitten by a snake)
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405106730 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/news/1405106730
“Fighters punitive battalion “Azov” were bitten by snakes in the reserve “khomutovskaya steppe”, where they were sent to accomplish strategic tasks. Now they ask care and medicines in large quantities
Punitive battalion of the National guard of Ukraine “Azov”, according to some data, funded by the Verkhovna Rada Deputy Oleh Lyashko, was sent to a reserve “khomutovskaya steppe” to achieve its strategic goal by the order of Kiev. But no one expected that the fighters of the special battalion group of road will be massively bitten by a Viper.
On his page on the social network Facebook blogger Roman Sinitsyn reports that soldiers are urgently needed medical assistance and a large number of medicines.
“DOCTORS! We need serum-the antidote from stings of the snakes (vipers)! For the Azov and other units in the steppe zone. Snakes much, bitten fighters too. Also need advice about this thing. Also, we need large amounts of: nifuroxazide, antibiotics broad steps, antiviral, antifungal (internal)”, – is spoken in the message text.
Recall that a battalion of Azov was fatally crushed in the battle for Saur-Grave, losing up to 70% of the personnel. Then the General staff of the Nazis said, though Azov was not there, and perform combat tasks under the Mariupol. It now appears that Azovtsev sent in a hostile desert, to be at war with nature, and battalion soldiers die like flies from the bites czapskich snakes. But its use for Ukraine in this. Increase the comfort of detention in prisons of the country.
Previously Oleg Lyashko recognized that among the soldiers of the battalion “Azov”, which takes part in ATU, there are criminals. “What people had previous convictions is not a stigma for life. I want to tell you, among the fighters of special division “Azov” about half of previous convictions,” said Lyashko.”
Hopefully most of the snakes are able to get away after doing their part to help Novorussian independence.
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Saker, I saw it first on a private page on FB and now found in this blog http://ivanoctober.livejournal.com/449357.html
I will try to find any official documents in Russian tomorrow as now I want to go to bed. Sorry that I posted information that I hadn’t checked first.
Sounds as if prayers at least contribute a bit. I’m very proud of you true heroes!!
Via Twitter I just got this (from July 9th) :
Украинская армия расстреливала мирных жителей в ходе штурма на Донбассе, — участник АТО
http://www.politnavigator.net/ukrainskaya-armiya-rasstrelivala-mirnykh-zhitelejj-v-khode-shturma-na-donbasse-uchastnik-ato.html
It appears to confirm the full intention of murdering innocent civilians, bombing settlements unconditionally, no matter if there is a child or a grandma or a cat.
One should flood the ProKiev facebook groups with that, but they were born blind and would just respond with what they always say: “It is KGB propaganda.”
Given that I lived in WesternUkraine for some time and always loved the people (because to me they appeared to be Russians), it is puzzling me how they now have proven to be to most foolish naive bunch of nerds all over the European continent. Are they blind or is it a problem with chemicals in their drinking water? No: It’s their US/Israel owned Oligrach’s TV and Oligarch’s “news”papers that destroyed their brains. I regret them. No joke. They chose to make a pact with foreign Satan himself, while they call their own countrymen and blood brothers “exterritorial foreign terrorists”. They need treatment. My own relationship got destroyed because she also is from western Ukraine and simply doesn’t get it, although being a University girl. I cannot grasp that. They sincerely believe, that Russia and nothing else is the root of all evil. Even of their own ignorance! If I meant it really well and wrote long letters and digged out src after src after reference: It didn’t change anything, verifiable proof and collections of verifyable FACTS do not count to them They rather believe each and every flat shit that the Nazi, then USA- and now USA/EU/Israel propaganda has carefully “prepared” for them. Holodomur (as method to destroy Ukraine) and such stories, prepared in the USA. I forgot the name of that lady from the US who developed this strategu 30 years ago. No need to mention, that the USA always funded Nazi-movements in the CCCP. Most of that is meanwhile public knowledge and can even be confirmed on wikipedia. But these Ukies NEVER WANT TO HEAR THAT. I have my personal experiences with them. So, how is it possible to educate them? Probably not at all, it is a lost generation.
Fighters punitive battalion “Azov” were bitten by snakes in the reserve “khomutovskaya steppe”, where they were sent to accomplish strategic tasks. Now they ask care and medicines in large quantities
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You would think that it’s the snakes which urgently need doctors and medicines…..
@Lee:Saker, I saw it first on a private page on FB and now found in this blog http://ivanoctober.livejournal.com/449357.html
Ok, this I can explain (assuming its true to begin with). The Russian have probably formed an operational HQ (оперативный штаб) which is an inter-agency body in charge of coordinating the work of the various intelligence agencies. It is further possible that this HQ is headed by the FSB and that in the Ukrainian context the relevant GRU and SVR units are OPERATIONALLY subordinated to this HQ (<<== these are PURE GUESSES of mine, ok?!). But that would not at all mean that the GRU and the SVR have been subordinated to the FSB or become part of it. In fact, there is so far zero evidence that even such an HQ was formed. As for a true subordination/incorporation of the GRU and SVR it would have to be made official and probably have to pass a vote in the Duma. And considering the historical “love fest” (NOT!) between the KGB and the GRU, I don’t see that happening anyway. The GRU was almost subordinated to the General Staff, and even that did not happen. With the shit hitting the fan so badly in the Ukraine, I would think that the GRU would be safe from any subordination. As for the SVR (ex-PGU), it always was a separate entity from the rest of the KGB and I don’t think that they would want to go back into becoming one agency, even formally. Not only will these three remain separate, Putin even created a fourth one, the FSO which although officially tasked only with the protection of key officials and targets really has its own security and intelligence capabilities. So far I see no signs of that changing, and no reasons to change that. This is why I was so skeptical.
Kind regards,
The Saker
11 July. 24th Mechanized Battalion, based in Lemberg, no longer combat viable. They deployed in lager in the open rolling steppes north of Donetsk.
That was not north of Donetsk, that is a different Zelenopolye. The correct one is in the Lugansk region, near the border with Russia. Here it is marked by a red star:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsQ9iWpCQAE2Ap5.jpg:large
Google map:
https://www.google.rs/maps/place/Zelenopillya,+Luhans%27ka+oblast,+Ukraine/@48.0282696,39.4907929,9z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x40e194c874f288c9:0x16a1e072aabe8c9a?hl=en
@Daniel Rich, let this Guardian article refresh your memory.
There was ample chance for negotiation (some might say there still is), but Kiev (aka the US) would have none of it. In their arrogance and hubris, they knowingly gave the green light to the incredible destruction and carnage which has followed.
I’m not cheering the death of the unlucky Ukie conscripts – I pity them deeply. The right-sector Nazguls are a different matter completely, however, and I’ve come to think of them as little different than rabid dogs that need to be put down – along with their psychopathic masters both in Ukraine and abroad.
No one is celebrating death here (although you’ll find plenty of that on some pro-Ukie websites and twitter feeds). What I, at least, am “celebrating” is the fact that a few brave people have chosen to stand up to the looming face of Darkness, and say No. It’s the last thing our insect overlords ever expected ;-)
There is an excellent recent article by John Pilger regarding the great Western UnTruths at:
http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-return-of-george-orwell-and-big-brothers-war-on-palestine-ukraine-and-truth
John is 74 and still fearless in his dedication to truth:
He is an inspiration to all of us who would sink into weary resignation in the face such an orchestrated litany of lies that is MSM – the main stream media.
DavidKNZ
Re that female Ukrainian pilot, Nadiya Savchenko,that is in a Russian slammer now for aiding in the deaths of two Russian journalists – there is getting to be quite a campaign getting underway to ‘save’ her in the media. Just look up her name in Google News.
There is a lot of bitching too in how she ended up in Russia itself. I am guessing that the Russians have radio transmissions that conform her part in those two journalists deaths which would imply that it was in an operation to deliberately kill Russian journalist.
Considering that the US has been kidnapping Russian citizens with increasing frequency over the past few years and having them sent to the US itself for trial to such an extent that Russia a few weeks ago cautioned its citizens when traveling to overseas countries, well, perhaps Russia can tell Washington that she wasn’t kidnapped – it was an ‘extraordinary rendition’! And that other Ukrainian war criminals should think over their travel plans when leaving the country as well!
Martin Bochnig said…
these Ukies NEVER WANT TO HEAR THAT. I have my personal experiences with them. So, how is it possible to educate them? Probably not at all, it is a lost generation.
“Tolerance for pain may be high, but it is not without limit. Eventually everyone begins to recognize, however dimly, that there must be a better way. As this recognition becomes more firmly established, it becomes a turning point. This ultimately reawakens spiritual vision..”
From: A Course in Miracles
or try ” The Kingdom of God is Within You” – Leo Tolstoy – for a Russian perspective on non violence
DavidKNZ
I believe 27 fighters who stayed behind in Slavyansk trekked 100km to rejoin NAF they fought skirmishes along the way losing 3 kIA and some injured, they rescued a 10 yr old girl as well who traveled with them.
Ukies forces are getting encircled in pockets against the Russian border two aircraft shot down today, also terrorist bombs in Donetsk shops, persons arrested as well as a cell arrested in Moscow armed Ukies pretending to be refugees.
Gayle:
There was ample chance for negotiation (some might say there still is), but Kiev (aka the US) would have none of it.
There will always be a chance for all members of the Kiev Coup Government to negotiate the terms of their surrender of power and exit from the Ukrainian State space before the NAF rolls through Kiev to liberate Zhitomir.
I am not kidding.
If they are not thinking in these terms, I hope they have picked out some nice place overseas to relocate their life to permanently, like the American loyalists who left for Ontario and Nova Scotia.
Re that female Ukrainian pilot, Nadiya Savchenko
There is certainly more afoot:
“We have repeatedly said that all those, who order and execute war crimes on the territory of Ukraine ,will have to answer for that. Russian court arrested in absentia Ukraine Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who, like his accomplice Igor Kolomoisky is accused of mass killings, kidnappings, the use of prohibited means and methods of warfare and of obstructing the work of journalists. As investigators believe, among other crimes, these two are related to the deaths of Russian journalists in the south-east of Ukraine,” the Investigative Committee of Russia said”.
http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/11-07-2014/128025-ukrainian_pilot_savchenko-0/
400 dead is at least ten times more than various news reports I read today.
What is the more likely number? Huge black eye for Porky
Russia’s Rosneft to help Cuba explore offshore oil reserves
http://rt.com/business/172204-russia-cuba-rosneft-cupet/
“Russian oil company Rosneft will help Cuban State oil company Cupet explore the country’s offshore oil reserves, according to one of the cooperation documents signed between Russia and Cuba during President Vladimir Putin’s visit to Havana.
Putin concluded his first stop on his six-day tour to Latin America in Havana, Cuba, where he met the nation’s President Raul Castro.
Speaking at a press conference, Putin confirmed that many major cooperation deals have been signed between the two nations.
One of the most significant agreements allows the Russian oil company Rosneft to help explore and drill on an offshore oil platform on Cuba’s northeast coast. The area potentially has up to 20 billion barrels of oil, according to Cupet…”
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Way to bloody Porky’s nose but I have read 30 dead with nearly 100 injured.
How does that square with 400?
Blackwater awarded over $1bn from State Dept. since threat on investigator’s life
http://rt.com/usa/172156-blackwater-contracts-threat-investigator/
“…In August 2007, State Department investigator Jean C. Richter said a Blackwater project manager, Daniel Carroll, told Richter “that he could kill me at that very moment and no one could or would do anything about it as we were in Iraq,” where the investigator was observing – and criticizing – the company’s operations.
Richter and his partner in the probe were later asked by officials at the American embassy in Baghdad to leave. The next month, Blackwater guards infamously shot and killed 17 Iraqi civilians at Nisour Square. The incident sparked outrage with American presence in Iraq among the local population.
Overall, the State Department has given the firm and its associated entities more than $1.3 billion since the fall of 2007. Blackwater and its subsidiaries have changed official names and management several times since 2007, partly based on efforts to distance the firm from the negative attention it received since the company’s notorious conduct in Iraq…”
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Russian Embassy sends note to UK Foreign Office on visas for Farnborough participants
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_12/Russian-Embassy-sends-note-to-UK-Foreign-Office-on-visas-for-Farnborough-participants-3946/
“…Earlier, a source in the Russian delegation said to RIA Novosti that the important negotiations, which Rosoboronexport delegation had to spend on the first day of the Farnborough 2014 International Air Show were cancelled due to lack of British visas of the delegation members.
According to him, out of a 17-member delegation of Rosoboronexport only five people got visas, most of them are from the Protocol Department…”
Not sure this British childishness is the result cowardice in the face of fascist ZPC/NWO pressure, or the result one gets when a regime is stuffed with graduates of the truly bizarre single gender English public school system.
Putin makes unplanned visit to Nicaragua
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_12/Putin-makes-unplanned-visit-to-Nicaragua-2461/
Probably only unplanned in the sense the visit wasn’t announced to the ZPC/NWO to prevent those critters from playing their unscrupulous games. The inclusion of the energy people at the meeting implies some Russian-Nicaraguan energy development together. I wasn’t aware of Nicaragua having energy sources (my ignorance), but also the Russians have ways of finding there when western energy experts fail. ;) Also, Nicaragua is planning on building a canal to rival the ZPC/NWO’s Panama Canal.
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Somewhat Off Topic:
Warsaw Ghetto: 1943
Gaza Strip: 2014
Same story, different century :-(
That said, the soldiers in the 79th dies an awful death. I do not wish that on anyone.
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You have to hope that this increases defections and people choosing not to heed the call up.
This is a real war. Not terror bombing followed by massacres.
Keep Porky from feeding the beast. Increase pressure for a negotiated settlement with Russia
How much war materiel has been recovered to increase their defensive and offensive capabilities against the UK army.
My how fortunes can swing in a week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Martin Bochnig said… I cannot grasp that. They sincerely believe, that Russia and nothing else is the root of all evil. Even of their own ignorance!
Tell me about it. I know a guy from Volyn’, a PhD no less, married to a Russian, is Russian Orthodox (and won’t set foot in the Ukr. Orth. Ch because their traditions are “too western”–HUH??), and he too is irredeemably b.r.a.i.n.w.a.s.h.e.d…The affair with the Austrian drag-queen at the Eurovision made him pause for a nanosecond. But he started grinding the axe again a day later. Warped.
http://www.km.ru/joke_day/744728
Weather forecast for Zelenopolye, 11 July. Looks like they got it right this time.
If it’s true then 400 junta troops killed would be major. Surprised it’s just casually mentioned here with no details.
Only thing I could find on the “24th mechanized brigade” was this:
“Konstantinovka company attacked a similar enemy group of the 24th mechanized brigade near the populated area of Oktyabrskoye west of Konstantinovka last night. The enemy lost three servicemen. At least 15 servicemen were wounded. A Ural vehicle was destroyed. On our side, one fighter sustained an arm wound,” the statement says.”
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_22/Truce-rejected-by-Donetsk-People-s-Republic-9755/
Apparently separate from the recent battle in Lugansk region. Doesn’t sound here like anywhere near 400 dead though. Curious to find out more…
@Robert Nelson
400 dead was probably translated from 400 casualties, which includes wounded and killed.
@bot tak
vipers? really? do you actually believe that? I warned you about rusvesna.su. After doing some more research on the site, I have confirmed, to myself at least, it is western run fifth column stuff.
I won’t go into the whole thing but just a summary as this is a very deep rabbit hole and is way beyond the scope of a simple reply.
There are around 1500 sites, rusvesna being one of them, all tied together through ruNet Holdings Ltd. The mafia oligarch behind this network is Leonid Boguslavsky.
http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/09/26/russian-investor-focuses-on-ecommerce/
He got his ties with the western bankers when he was at University of Toronto in late 80s early 90s.
http://www.rumafia.com/person.php?id=1937
ruNet has no board members.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/board.asp?privcapId=772346
How do you run this large of a network without a board? Well, you don’t. The actual managers and financial backers are the Royal Bank of Canada. He is their puppet.
Direct management and editorial control of rusvesna itself comes from Rusonyx.ru run by Yuri Ustinov who used to be general director of ruNet.
http://ru.linkedin.com/in/diaprint
The Royal Bank of Canada has an office in Moscow and also runs tv, cell networks, news, you name it. Huge network of infomation tech companies.
http://www.rbcnews.com/company.shtml
So why use a bank to run all this? Well banks have very secure communication networks that are off limits to spying or any other subversive means and have very strict penalties if violated. Now bank network monitoring and security is handled by the NSA. So since RBC runs a very large network of infomation gathering in Russia, including SMS(text msg service), they can transmit this data back to the NSA via their bank network.
So you are thinking why rusvesna is currently putting out some credible stories. Think Al Jazeera, start out with stuff to sucker you in and gain credibility, then slowly switch to disinfo.
bot tak, spit the hook out, save yourself, your being reeled in.
Robert Nielson 03:17
I understand a significant number of the regular Ukrainian army are fighting against their will, having received threats long jail sentences if they decline. I thought the Neo-Nazis had also threatened some, giving them the choice ‘fight or die’. This is confirmed in this interview with a recently captured Ukrainian commander. The video includes a purported summary in Russian which Yandex translates fairly well (better than Google captions anyway).
Josh said…12 July, 2014 07:42
“Apparently separate from the recent battle in Lugansk region. Doesn’t sound here like anywhere near 400 dead though. Curious to find out more…”
And 2 weeks before. Look at the date on the report, 22 June.
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the original Paul said…12 July, 2014 09:43
A commenter called “Hardcore” has made similar claims as yours. But neither you, nor him, produce any evidence the material posted as rusvesna is ZPC/NWO disinformation. I’ve been following the site for a couple of months now, and what I see there is material gathered from Russian sources, and which is pretty much consistent with the variations I found throughout the Russian internet.
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