If there is one thing which is obvious for all to see is that the EU and NATO hold one language against Belarus and another against Russia. For example, the EU has just agreed to impose a 5th package of sanctions on Belarus, but their official statement does not mention Aeroflot, Russia, or Putin by a single word. Of course, western politicians make all sorts of noises and grandstanding statements about Putin and Russia, but that is just that – hot air. They can bark at Russia all they want because they know that Russia does not care one bit about noise, especially since the Russians fully understand that there is nothing that the West could do, even theoretically, against Russia, as she is simply too powerful.
Ditto for economic sanctions. The EU has banned overflights by Belavia, but it has not touched Aeroflot (yet). Why not? Simple, because Russia could simply close her airspace which is currently the most expensive airspace on the planet, as it links Europe to Far East Asia.
Belarus, in sharp contrast to Russia, still remains weak, mostly because of Lukashenko’s incompetence and lack of vision. All he cares about is remaining in power, which also means that he does not want Belarus to be truly incorporated into Russia, lest he loses his status of “King of Belarus” or whatever he fancies himself to be.
Now I submit that becoming part of Russia is not only the best solution to all of Belarus’ problems, it is the only solution. By the way, that outcome is exactly what the western ruling elites are desperately trying to avoid, because they all realize that once Belarus becomes a part of Russia, say as an autonomous Federal subject, the party is over for the EU which won’t be able to touch Belarus – not economically, not politically and most definitely not militarily.
It is important to keep in mind that Polish, German, or Lithuanian military forces are a joke, at best they can have (small) parades, and shoot at unarmed civilians. But even taking on “just” the Belarussian military alone (without any Russian help) is not an option for them: there is no comparison between a Polish solider (or a Lithuanian one, for that matter) and a Belarusian one, it would be like comparing perfumed and fluffy show-dog with a wolf. Numbers here matter a lot less than the quality, training, and determination of the soldiers on both sides.
Still, shooting a Belarusian border guard and shooting a Russian paratrooper are two very, very different propositions, and the folks in the West know that. So far the Poles have only shot blanks or in the air, at least they say so, but if their current defenses are breached, or if a bullet flies across the border, the violence will ensue, that is inevitable. Right now, this is even likely.
I have to repeat myself: I have exactly *zero* trust in Lukashenko who, in my opinion, cares only about himself and remaining in power. Belarus claims to want to be an “allied state” to Russia, but has not even recognized Crimea as part of Russia! Right now, Belarus is, de facto, a Russian parasite, a freeloader country, run by a megalomaniac which needs to be replaced with a person the Kremlin can trust or, even better, with a person whose role would cease to be so important simply because Belarus and Russia would be truly and fully unified.
In the past, Lukashenko has zig-zagged even more than Erdogan, and his current pro-Russian stance is only due to the fact that the dimwits in the EU have tried to overthrow him one time too many, so now he is angry and wants to make them pay. But irrespective of how stupid EU politicians are, Belarus is in no condition to take on the entire EU by itself, so at the end of the day, it is Russia that will have to bail Belarus out (yet again!). Personally, I find that unacceptable.
Furthermore, objectively, right now the Poles and the Belarussians both have the same interest: to try to make the most out of this crisis. The Poles by proving how tough, courageous, and generally heroic they are in the defense of the sacred borders of the EU, the Belarussians by showing how cold-hearted and evil the Poles are. And for all the media attention to the 3-4 thousand people at the Polish border, this is a tiny number compared to the much larger numbers which cross into the EU every day or cross from France into the UK. In other words, this is completely and totally a manufactured pseudo-crisis. And the main beneficiary from this circus is the Poles who, from being the black sheep of the EU suddenly have turned into the heroic “defenders of the European realm from the Russia Asiatic hordes” at exactly zero risk for them. That needs to change.
As for the Russians, they are now forced to politically back Belarus in a crisis that in no way benefits Russia. And when Lukashenko makes (totally empty) threats to cut off the Russian gas lines to Poland, he is objectively helping the Western propaganda about Russia wanting to use her energy to blackmail Europe.
Finally, Belarus could bring a lot of good things to Russia, including a very (pro-)Russian population, a strong military, plenty of high-tech industries, and a good place to deploy forces to protect Kaliningrad.
By remaining separate, Belarus and Russian gain nothing, they both only stand to lose on many levels.
The good news is that the Belarusian and Russian militaries are already deeply integrated, but that integration needs to be SHOWN, and the best place to show it would be right at the Polish border. Again, pull back all the Belarussian border guards and replace them with a single regiment of Russian paratroopers and that alone will RADICALLY change the tone and actions of the West.
That would be the proverbial “tripwire force” which would absolutely terrify the Poles and the rest of the clowns who are playing at this “pretend-almost-war” on the border with Belarus (including 600 Brits, and assorted Germans and French units).
So my solution to this entire crisis is simple: fully unify Russia and Belarus. The only thing preventing this today is Lukashenko, so this process has to begin by getting rid of him.
Andrei
I think the elites in Belarus are an obstacle. Everything I have read about the Union merger speaks to the issue of elites resisting integration.
correct, that’s true.
Lukashenko wanted to become the leader of a united Russia (Bel+Ru) but since he could not get that position, he stepped on the breaks…
I think the Russians have had enough non-Russians as leaders, good for them.
Perhaps the people of Belarus should be permitted to solve their own problems without the interference of others, the U.S. has enough of its own problems with the unrest inflation and vast span in wealth between the working class and the 5% at the top, without trying to create color revolutions sanctions and misery in other countries with the aid of their poodles in Europe. I think I’ll worry more about the problems my children and grandchildren are going to face in a country that’s gone full rouge than a country thousands of miles away.
US cares little about it’s citizens. If given a choice between funding a colour revolution in Belarus or feeding some of US’s own homeless, the homeless are going hungry.
The EU also cares little about its citizens either. Not only has it delayed NS2 again, just before winter, and increased the price of gas now……
Lukashenko/Belarus is closing down its oil pipeline for 3 days for maintenance:
https://www.rt.com/russia/540509-belarus-closure-pipeline-oil-europe/
The speculators will now increase the price of oil no doubt!
Who gets harmed? – the consumers/ordinary people.
The cold war got colder. Pipeline maintenance? shut off the gas? For putin, lukashenko is part of reality. We have to understand that Putin respects reality. The funny thing is that Poland, unlike the rest of the EU, is using competitive prices to negotiate with Russia. The Russians need to sell their LNG at a deep discount due to the location of their LNG liquefaction plant. Poland is using this discounted LNG price as a benchmark to obtain competitive prices on natural gas supplied by the Jamal pipeline and then sell Russian NG and expand “US LNG” profitably in the EU. At the same time, Poland is exposing the “cheap Russian natural gas” scam. This explains why Putin is pissed and sent Lukashenko into a hybrid war with Poland. In fact, the Russians have nothing to lose. The false Western media, guided by selfish political myrmidons, have unfairly accused Russia of everything under the sun.
Don’t confuse junk media and politicians with real business.
Russians are the best known business partners in the world!
Belarus borders five countries and four hyenas, and Lukashenko is nobody’s puppet. That’s why people in Belarus call him Батька (father).
Russia is in no hurry. They will still fulfill their contracts and have nothing to lose, especially with the huge demand for gas coming from friendlier China. Europe is heading towards a cold winter this year and perhaps much more. Of course they will blame Russia and its partners and make the situation worse. Better for the EU to go to the US or elsewhere to get gas now. The EU made its bed…
The cold war got colder!!!
‘Rogue,’ you want ‘rogue’ here. Not French for ‘red.’
schengen visa requirements change every day, for example, the rules in Turkey are very strict https://schengenvize.com/schengen-vize-basvuru-sartlari/
Yes, the elites will resist integration as they are Western controlled, where Soros style tactics have been implemented, a minority trying to control the majority. The elites also enjoy a certain following in Belarus, as demonstrations have proven. However, those same demonstrations have also proven that the majority of the population was behind Lukashenko, regardless if they liked him or not, as they watched the situation in Ukraine and saw what Western puppets brought.
Replacing Lukashenko with somebody else will not be easy, as the West will try to place into power a Guaido type puppet, using the streets for insurrection. Even so, I think that Belarus will rejoin Russia, as there is no historical reason why it should be outside it.
Makei, the Belarussian foreign minister is the perfect Guaidó. He is known to be a western puppet.
West has only one strategy, be P+3B or Berlin, Paris, London or Washington, force Russia and Belarus to unite
Lukashenko will depart in a legal, democratic fashion. I very much doubt he’ll resign or be purged. Tried hard to explain to the wife why Belarus is known as White Russia, that it had always been merely a province of Russia and also Napoleon and Hitler’s invasion highway. Belarus would benefit greatly by returning to its SSR status.
I could not figure, way back in 1990 when the Soviet Union split up, why Russia, Belarus and Ukraine did not remain a unified Slavic state of very closely-related peoples with a long shared history. These have been a single people–at least to the rest of the world–for about 1,000 years, approximately 750 years longer than the USA has existed (and longer than it will exist!). Wouldn’t you prefer to be an important cog in some larger movement much greater than your miniscule self? I even thought that Kazakstan had enough of an ethnic Russian population to remain part of that union, especially since the space program was centered there–sort of like the Russian Cape Canaveral (which is now outside the country!). I know that America wanted only confusion and chaos throughout the Eurasian continent…and still does, so it can parasitize the whole place and prey upon its resources, but the Eurasian peoples did a piss poor job of re-assorting themselves after the fall of the USSR. All the central Asian “Stans,” the Baltics and the Caucasian republics were probably destined to split, and the American oligarchy shoveled mountains of cash at China to purposely promote its economic ascendance over what remained of Russia (and unwittingly over what was rapidly eroding in America itself). Biggest mistake by all was trusting Washington or believing anything it said, but Reagan’s promises seemed so alluring. Lots to regret.
Slav unity is the greatest bane of the West/enemy. They are ready to go all the way to prevent it. They don’t need to look hard to find Slav quislings, Grima Wormtongues and lickspittles ready to betray for a pair of jeans and a bottle of Coke.
“…Biggest mistake by all was trusting Washington or believing anything it said…”
Lots of Eastern Europeans (including us Serbs) make that same tragic mistake.
Never negotiate with psychopaths/terrorists – and never believe anything they say
Slav unity is a dog that doesn’t bark
Many slavs prefer to prostitute themselves to the empire & EU bureaucracy, where they exist as diminished a colony, rather than join a union where they would actually have some clout & would be able to defend their collective interests.
There is no objective advantage to creating a union with such people.
That said, I do not believe the Byelorussians fall into this category.
“Slav unity is a dog that doesn’t bark
Many slavs prefer to prostitute themselves to the empire & EU bureaucracy” –
Truer words were never spoken, sad enough…
Brotherly greetings from Crna Gora
If you think the Serbs are bad, look at the Poles. They’ve made major mistakes against their own interests again and again, when they saw themselves as aligned with the West, whether Nazi Germany then or the US/Nato now. They’re even worse than in the 1930’s.
They want so badly to be occupied by the US that they’re willing to pay to be occupied!
You mean “slavs” like Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin, Lavrov…..who supported ustasha and split our people and country.
brotherly greetings from Ulcinj. I agree, I travelled all our slavic countries and we all look and behave like we are coming from same mother. we are followers not leaders
‘Slav unity’, aka ‘Panslavism’ is a phantom. Read Konstantin Leontiev.
yes, we must…then we need to wake our Ukie brothers out of their slumber…
what was that thang the prince did to that sleeping princess I wonder…kiss her???…eeeeeh…such chauvinism…
then we need to wake our Ukie brothers out of their slumber…
My strictly personal opinion is that they are beyond hopeless…
As far as I am concerned, they are welcome to self-destruct for as long as they want and for as long as Russia does not have to pay the bill
well, that iis always about the bill with “those people” aint it? and Ima not talking about the natives…🙄
… as long as you mean just the parts of Ukraine that self-identify as “ukrainian”, which excludes those people who never wanted to be included, such as was the case with the entire regions of Crimea, Black Sea coast, Bukovina, eastern Ukraine, Carpatho-Russia,and maybe some others [think Kharkov, Odessa, Uzhgorod, Chernovtsy, etc]; plus Russian-oriented individuals everywhere. Many regions of Ukraine had been historically part of Russia, or always wanted to be, and it’s not their fault that the Communists messed everything up.
Lol you cannot blame “the Communists”, but rather the blame lies with the Revisionist traitors Krushchev and Gorbachev and their ilk.
It was a MI6 false flag all along with only one goal: Cancel NS2
British PM points to Europe’s growing dependency on Russian hydrocarbons
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he believes that Europe will soon be facing a choice of whether to increase its dependency on the supplies of Russian hydrocarbons or “sticking up for Ukraine and championing the cause of peace and stability.”
“I hope, that others may recognize, other European countries may recognize, that a choice is shortly coming, between mainlining ever more Russian hydrocarbons in giant new pipelines, and sticking up for Ukraine and championing the cause of peace and stability – let me put it that way,” Johnson said.
UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss called on other European countries on Saturday to boycott Russia’s Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, which was completed in September, saying that the growing dependence on the Russian natural gas supplies may threaten the European security.
It is now clear as Polish and Ukie energy companies will participate in the final approval of NS2, after a joint CIA/MI6 blackmail on Merkel.
Of cource talking about ‘freedom’, ‘democracy’,’values’ etc…in 404, is a joke .
The goal of the Anglos Zio is to destroy…not so Russia(which does not really needs NS2 so much, it has been a German industry complex demand and Russia said why not?).Germany in ‘her transition’ to ‘green deal’ a big fake against…yes Russia, absolutely needs more gas otherwise(as there is little wind, no more nuclear facilities and even less sun..), the German industrial will collapse or at best have no more growth, which eliminates a big, a very big concurrent for ‘fake global Britain’ and bankrupted USA.
A ‘merger’ of interests between Europe(understand Germany which rules the UE, France has nothing to say, even all the rest) and Russia is a catastrophy for the falling Empire.This must NEVER happen, whatever the price to pay including a limited war.
Bojo and the US Deep State pretty don’t care one second about Ukraine, Poland, 3B.
They may become failled states, no problem at all. Millions may even die if necessary it is ok.
https://tass.com/economy/1361767
And expect even worse as the Greens party(financed by the usual CIA/NED/USAID/SOROS gang for years, even before 2.000), yes the ‘greenies’ want the Foreign Minister job otherwise they refuse to enter the coalition.
Of course this order comes from Langley.
With this false flag(they waited for Merkel out,almost done). The all black sea thing, the fake ‘ 404 invasion’ is just another MH17, Skripalite, Navalnyte, Idlebite chem attack etc etc …MI6 is behind
The Brits rely on Russian gas.
And Merkel. Why is she still on the scene. ?
The Brits not so much, like France they have diversified gas providers.
They only call Russia for some help during colder as usual winters.
Merkel is still there because there is still no new govt formed.
When formed, they still have to present their program in front of the parliament and then Merkel is our forever.
Except that I’m sure she will be back soon somewhere(Imf,WB,EU,Nato,UN?)
The Brits primary supplier is Norway. Very little Russian dependence.
Re Russian gas…..
People don’t think it be like it is, but it do.” [Oscar Gamble].
….That Russia supplies gas to the UK (and when expedient, the US) is one of those dirty, sly secrets the mockingbirds usually prefer to stay silent about….. in the same way that the 2021 European gas price surge is “Russia’s fault”, and in no way connected to the US diverting 50% of its “freedom gas” to Asia (including Bad China) and South America this pre-heating season.
Russia may not be the *major* supplier of gas to the UK, but it has been a “saviour” supplier, called on in past years to “flattened the curve!” when supplies were reduced and prices surging.
Here’s two articles (certainly dated), showing the quandary the UK (and US) experience when they have to swallow their pride and buy Russian gas.
In the case of the US, the purchase contravened Obama’s sanctions…. But we want the gas, so we’ll call it French gas, and that’s ok, if we say it is….
Merkel is not likely to come back. She is sick (probably Parkinson’s, just search for videos with “Merkel trembling” )
Otherwise she could have stayed chancellor indefinitely. she had the support of the press and the people.
German guy
Merkel has support of the German people?! Well, in that case one can only feel absolute despair, sadness and regret for these Germans. When you Germans are going to open your eyes!?
Boris Johnson is dead man walking. He should say nothing about gas unless he wants futures prices spiking and a furious population as winter strains heating and electricity in UK which gets colder as it gets more northerly and only Scandinavia is north of UK
As for 600 British soldiers that is the reduced Battalion which used to be 1000 strong
There are fresh reductions in the Army budgeted to pay for Navy and RAF toys. He simply lacks soldiers with any combat effectiveness but like Poland
It is all about gaining territory to move nearer Moscow with no real plan if Russia does not fold
The West has a death wish and has destroyed its economic base and society it hopes to drag more down with it but has no other plan
China should be investing in Belarus to produce TVs or electrical goods and supply parts to its factories in Poland
Russia should of course replace Lukashenko with a more modern leader with help of Belarusian voters but I can see how US would subvert that
Actually there is apparently a very nice China-Belarus JV industrial park near Minsk airport called “Great Stone”. At least nominally open to all, and with preferential tax/customs treatment.
https://en.industrialpark.by/
(posted by the Embassy of Belarus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcm-ywNg57M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1j7iWyA4_I
I could see that getting someone’s knickers in a twist.
Boris may be deader than you think before long given the new lockdowns announced.
I honestly wonder how the UK Conservative Party expects to ever win another election after all this.
They are fundamentally stupid to start with and their policies and pomp would never be electable in the US Canada Australia NZ or EU.
He is the ultimate clown and royals are almost as bad.
Totally out of touch.
Im wondering when the backbenchers will pull the plug on him ?
True, however, is Labor now or has it been since Tony Blair or even earlier, ever been useful for the vast majority of the British people?
The social safety net has been continuously trashed and now there are reports that British poverty levels and even hunger are at their highest levels in recent years.
Ahhh, but you see, the City of London would suffer and they need to fund the Trident submarine and practice gunboat diplomacy against China, forgetting that the following the Opium Wars and Century of Humiliation, it’s now the UK’s turn to suffer.
The political elites of both parties would rather slander Corbyn for alleged antisemitism than to allow any walk back from the greed soaked Theresa May ruin of the working classes.
Both the UK Conservatives and Labor will be gone next election.
Problem Saker, I agree with your analysis, but who would be able to take over the job of Lukashenko?
Of course not all the traitors who left their country and ask for sanctions against their own people(like Navalny in Russia).
Any name?
Nope, I don’t know enough about Belarusian politics to name a possible candidate.
But maybe somebody else here can?
Andrei My Orthodox Brother,
How do you get rid of him though? He obviously has some loyalists around him. You would have to have loyalists around you to survive 30 years as the head of state of a former Soviet Republic. For sure he probably has a loyal and tight knit intelligence service. I doubt you are suggesting a Russian sponsored coup in Minsk. So you must be insinuating that Lukashenko could be enticed to step aside voluntarily. How could that be done?
Loyalists, in his case, would be pro-soviet socialism communists from the previous era – those who, with time, became dogmatic… However, considering the mess in the region, today, I think that they are right in becoming conservatives… The majority of Belarusian people are probably conservatives as well, now, even if they had some fantasies before with western capitalism-imperialism because they were seduced by their relentless propaganda during the USSR period… In my view, their conservatism is GOOD! I think that this is exactly what should have happened in the 1990s to the rest of the soviet socialist republics; but, to their misfortune – and that of the rest of the world –, it did not…
Lukashenko is a principled guy, as astonished with the transformations that are occurring in the region and in the whole world right now as the majority of us are… He is doing a good job for the people, it seems, considering his support from them. The tiny pro-west elite has no chance with him and his supporters. The perfidious west do want to remove him, and will not change their instance against him. Why would we also want to replace him at this time of so much uncertainty? I would NEVER change a team player of the winning team in the middle of a game; thus, I would NOT change him for anybody in order to NOT create instability at this time…
Until recently, Lukashenko and the elite who support him seemed to be too gullible about the west. They made mistakes and had to get Russia’s support to get rid of the problems they had created for themselves… Mr. Putin never changed his instance, and continues doing an excellent job in getting Lukashenko’s and his supporters’ confidence. By now, they may have understood that only Russia will support Belarus’ decision to remain a soviet socialist republic, if this is what they want.
The repercussion of the conflict created with the passing of migrants through Belarus to Poland – a situation that may have been created by the west to exert pressure on Belarus – has just shown Lukashenko’s confidence that they can indeed resist the western bully. Certainly, the more recent decision to ‘temporarily’ shut down the gas pipelines has given the chills to the teasers! Although I do realise that the Saker believes it is NOT fair that Russia has to come again and again to save their ‘friends’ from the messes Lukashenko creates, I think that this is the minimum they can do, at the moment, considering the risk of having Lukashenko replaced. However, there is also another possibility: due to the audacity of these decisions, it may be valid to question if Lukashenko is taking them by himself, without Russia’s acknowledgement, or if Russia was fully aware of them (and gave him carte blanche). If this is the case, these movements are, then, even more relevant than we have imagined them to be!
Unification. That would be a great day, and there are at least two other days like that one in waiting elsewhere, far away. Reminds me when the Central European countries joined the EU; me and friends had a great party. (The EU is absolute horrible garbage, of course; that is not the point; they got closer and that’s what matters.)
I just do not understand what is negative in the success of Polish efforts to stop immigrants. If Russia suffered from this crisis, that would create a conflict of interests, but, fortunately, it does not; will make her stronger.
I think it is a great start; we need this on the south and southeastern borders. After all, I want a rebirth of the West, and Europe – albeit one knowingly perfectly well that are 3 classes of Europeans, some being more European than others. I am doing my share in all this; faster now, but still slowly.
How does each events impacts reunification, that is what is important.
tear down that paper wall Mr Pwezident: tear down that wall…
Once Belarus becomes a part of Russia, will they still use their separate Belarusian ruble BYN? Or will one side have to replace its currency with the other’s?
Russian rubles are the only possible option in that case
Very well then, okay.
The reason I asked was that Belarus’ newest ruble revaluation was in 2016, with Russia’s being in 1998. My initial idea was that the Belarusian ruble was ‘too young’ to be thrown out, so it’d have to be preserved in some way.
Some commentator on another site wrote about how the Belarusian ruble was state-owned. I don’t know if it really is, or if Russia’s ruble is still privately-owned, so I could be insufficiently informed.
One tangible aspect of the changeover might be the loss of the 2-BYN coin, currently worth 59.70 RUB. Do you think this would warrant the introduction of a 50-RUB coin (and possibly an intermediate one between it and the 10), or would most Belarusians not care less?
Hi Andrei – I totally agree – but its hard to imagine after decades of single man rule – that the population could get rid of Lukashenko
I completely agree with you. He is like Erdogan…too bad this planet has so much scum on the surface.
As a Chinese American, can the same not be said about Taiwan? The way you describe Lukashenko seems so similar to the so-called Taiwan “democratic” leadership.
Andrei, could not agree more with your assesmant of Lukashenko, he absolutely needs to go. I don’t know if people have short memories, but we only need to recall his pathetic grovelling to Pompeo and before that, open sympathy (and in Putin’s presence!) to zhidowski assh**e .Poroshenko who was complaining to him about “Russian aggression in Donbass!!” I watched it and heard every word! This snake of a man absolutely needs to go! He is there totally for his own interests only, as you have rightly pointed out. Putin is keeping him there just until they find a suitable replacement, but there is absolutely not even an iota of trust in Kremlin with regard to this creature. He has totally discredited himself with his duplicitous shenanigans.
From a geopolitical perspective, is it possible that President Putin has a long-term strategy of “helping” Lukashenko remain in power in exchange for using Belarus as a buffer between Russia and NATO?
If Belarus were absorbed into the Russian Federation, NATO would be on Russia’s western and northern borders and the Ukraine on its southern boarder.
See: https://www.nato.int/nato-on-the-map/#lat=51.72673918960763&lon=4.84911701440904&zoom=0&layer-1
I imagine the unfriendly Poles would try and instigate some trouble and complain to Brussels about the “Bears” lurking on its eastern border. US-NATO ramped up its rhetoric against Russia after the Crimean reunification and Putin doesn’t need any more aggravation with Poland added to the current Ukraine situation.
To Poke The Truth
O, boy! I wish you could actually undersdand something before you post something!
Dear Katerina,
I’m always open to the opinions of others.
I take you comment as an opening statement so if you would be so kind as to flesh out the details behind what you wrote then I would be in a better position to understand it.
To Poke The Truth
Ok, you wanted clarification, here it is: Belorussia IS part of Russia and has always been the inseparable part of the Russia’s space. Unfortunately, after the collapse of USSR, most of these Soviet Republics had decided that they do not need Russia, and decided to be the self centered, autonomous “governments”. As I said before – little kingdoms, each with their own little king, which is wonderful for ones ego. That did not work for most of them. Lukashenko has an ego the size of Mt Everest! One thing he was very smart in is in keeping his ties with Russia and in this way, enriching himself and Belorussian economy. Russia kept that country’s economy going for many years – as Lukashenko took ALL the credit among his own population for the prosperity of that country. The reciprication was to sign the Union Agreement with Russia. He has dragged his heels on that one for as long as he could, before engaging in an open and obvious Russophobic garbage, like most of them did. And suddenly discovered that the West that he was courting is not what he thought it to be, it actually wanted to get rid of him! So, forgetting all the Russophobic garbage he spewed prior, he ran to Putin to save his arse. Putin did that, not for Lukashenko’s benefit, but to keep Belorussia from having the same fate as Ukraine. Belorussia will be absolutely part of Russia, because that is where it belongs and always did, and anyone that Kremlin puts in charge there will be totally towing the Kremlin’s line!! Make no mistake. As for Poland, do you know what Russians call that place? A pile of vomit on the map of Europe. Make your own conclusions..
(correct myself – the reciprication was NOT to sign a Union Aggreement but to IMPLEMENT already signed one!)
You mean Govnopolska?
Katerina, I don’t disagree with the summary you provided as to the history between Belarus and Russia.
My point is that President Putin knows Lukashenko’s personalty very well and is unbothered by the hubris and self-aggrandizement of “Batka.”
Have a look at this picture of the two men playing hockey together.
See: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/russian-president-vladimir-putin-and-belarusian-president-news-photo/1199251845
Here is another one where we see Putin pointing out something about Lukashenko’s style of play. We see Putin uses the blade end of a hockey stick to emphasize who is the boss.
See: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/russian-president-vladimir-putin-talks-to-belarusian-news-photo/1125034601
Lukashenko imposes his will inside Belarus but knows Putin is his master outside the country. Putin exploits that to service the needs of a buffer State for the Russia Federation.
Here is an article from 2017 that explains the geopolitical benefit of a buffer State.
See: https://geopoliticalfutures.com/belarus-holds-line/
That was the entire point of my first post, which is Putin is a student of history and knows how to position Russia for its survival in the long-game of geopolitics. He is a master.
Speaking of a master, take a look at this photograph.
See: https://geopoliticalfutures.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/GettyImages-882814674.jpg.
Here we see Lukashenko uses his hands in a tight grasp of Putin’s right hand and arm. It’s a picture that says, “I’m in control.” Now look at the expression on President Putin’s face; it is calm and exhibits confidence. Putin could probably Judo flip Lukashenko on his butt if he wanted to but why bother? Lukashenko is just a “useful idiot” and Putin knows how to play him for the benefit of Russia.
You got to conclusions based on picture very fast… I would say, from your last picture, that Lukashenko is trying to convince Mr Putin of something about which Mr Putin is sceptical… Can’t you see that in Mr Putin’s smile? I can. Body language is difficult to interpret, anyway…
As to your other conclusions, you are too hard on Lukashenko. It may not be easy to be in his situation — a buffer! May be the whole problem is indeed that this is exactly what Russia wants at the moment from Belarus… I just made a comment above about how I see this.
I think that President Putin has a strategy of keeping Lukashenko in power.
By doing so, NATO would have to invade an independent sovereign state (Belarus), before becoming a problem for Russia.
Initiating war of aggression is a supreme International Crime, according to the Nuremberg trail.
However:
If the US is using its own intelligence Agents to dethrone a foreign official, it is a crime.
But you have to capture the Agents in the act, and document their crime.
If the US is using proxies (Al CIA-da) to dethrone a foreign official, it is not a crime done by the US.
Unless you can prove that the US financed or supported the proxies.
If the US supports uprising against a foreign official (Yanukovych) it is not a crime done by the US.
Unless you can prove that Victoria Nuland financed or supported the uprising by $5 Billion.
The Empire is using all the tricks in the book to provoke war, or take over sovereign Nations, while at the same time being able to demonize its victim and deny its own aggression, in western media.
If Belarus is absorbed into Russia, NATO would be straight on Russia´s borders.
Then the Poles (helped by the UK) could really instigate trouble in order to activate NATO article 5.
Then we would risk WWIII, instead of a Border incident of Migrants.
@PokeTheTruth
“If Belarus were absorbed into the Russian Federation, NATO would be on Russia’s western and northern borders and the Ukraine on its southern boarder.”
So what?
The only thing that matters is military strength. Russian strength is clearly more than enough to detter any NATO attack. Even to retaliate if necessary.
Let me put it this way: Russian military advanced to NATO positions. By watching who is hysterical, and who is stonecold we can predict the outcome of clash if it happens.
I have some questions for those who know about Russia and Belarus. What is the position about current Belarus military toward Lukashenko and Russia? If Belarus military are more pro-Russia, wouldn’t they be angry for Lukashenko? Or at least very dissatisfied for his policies/position?
Force one of the societies on earth with the least wealth gap to fully join the single society with the greatest wealth gap, the oligarchs of which are openly salivating over gaining control of Belarussian assets.
First Russia should prosecute some of the worst excesses of the privatization of the 90s and institute some biting anti-trust laws. harsh wealth gaps create all kinds of social problems and Russia needs to chart its own path away from the neoliberalism imposed in the 90s. Sadly, Putin is a liberal and Russia is a long way off adopting something like Xi Jinping thought.
As the global liberal project flounders, we need the greatest possible diversity of systems non-committed to it, however flawed they may be, to offer options of evolution beyond.
Maybe Belarus should get closer to China
As a Putin fan myself, I was going to ask something similar regarding Russia’s new QR code mandates and how Belarusians, whose government didn’t impose lockdowns, would react to it.
No, Putin is not a liberal. The balance of forces inside Russia simply do not allow further changes that he would like to implement. He is a skilled negotiator/chess player, and is slowly getting his way. The west is losing, and so are the liberals inside Russia.
”And the main beneficiary from this circus is the Poles who, from being the black sheep of the EU suddenly have turned into the heroic ’defenders of the European realm from the Russian Asiatic hordes’ at exactly zero risk for them. That needs to change.”
If that is the Poles’ supposed ”reward”, it only shows that they are willing to settle for less than nothing in their proud service of the Holy Lands of Western Europe. The EU couldn’t care less about these incurably stupid Papists and their putrid obsessions. The EU is arguing with them over a host of issues and none of these will be settled by any psychobabble about how deeply the EU should thank the Poles for ”saving Western civilization” throughout the centuries. Lukashenko isn’t impressed by them either. One could say tongue-in-cheek that the Poles’ mission to ”save Christian Europe” at their border with Belarus is too little, too late. It could have been something worth trying as a serious PR stunt in Western MSM before 2015, but after the EU/Erdogan deal this is just silly beyond laughable (except to Gównopolska, evidently).
I agree that Lukashenko might need to step down in favour of a more professional leader whom the Kremlin can trust, meaning someone who is fully determined to unite the two countries without the brutal lessons of colour revolutions and murder conspiracies. As for the migrants, Russia should force the Euro-trash to let them in. It was the EU and the US that created the problem and, as an extra bonus, that will infuriate Gównopolska to no end (not that the Poles will understand anything).
“As for the migrants, Russia should force the Euro-trash to let them in. It was the EU and the US that created the problem and, as an extra bonus, that will infuriate Gównopolska to no end (not that the Poles will understand anything).”
The easiest way out of this crisis is for Mutti to send coaches to the Polish border. After all, most of the refugees are on their way to Germany and Mutti invited them no less. What a heartwarming media story it would be for these men to be met at the German border by German girls and their refugees welcome banners.
If Poland completely closes their border why wouldn’t Lukashenko do the same? I am a sure that there are almost as many truckers lining up to get into Belarus as there are refugees trying to get out. Belarus is a very important transportation hub for overland Chinese goods bound for Europe after all. Then of course the Jamal pipeline which would also unfortunately have to be closed temporarily. Germany wouldn’t have to worry too much with Nord Stream ready to go, however.
If the weather gets much worse there could be many lives at risk and action would have to be taken quickly. Perhaps a safety corridor to Kaliningrad could be established for these unfortunate people. Shipping them to Germany from Kaliningrad could easily be arranged and the Chinese goods could go with them.
Of course, the EU could just drop the sanctions and pay Belarus not to send refugees like they did Turkey.
Or perhaps NATO can just drop all the silly pretensions and attack Russia directly if they feel like they are up for it.
Eivätkö mestarivarkaat nussi?
Lukashenko is one of the few who have stood up to the banksters. Of course he “must go.”
I think that with or without Lukashenko, there will be no complete unification with Russia because “certain international elites of the vertical of power” in Russia do not want that. They are the ones who need Belarus as a “state” for several reasons. The pacification of Lukashenko is, in my opinion, a show by which Russian diplomacy presents itself to the world as one that provides solutions, not problems. Primarily to prove to the West “democratic values” as a member of the UNSC. The business community supports this, while the ownership of belarussian firms does not depend on boundaries. Furthermore, if Ukraine or Kazakhstan are waiting for the same or a similar agreement as with Belarus, then by absorbing Belarus, the internationals will show the world that they are not what they represent, but nationalists. That is why there is no progress on the field of MaloRussia or NovoRussia, only passive agony. Empty rethoric. I think that Putin’s Russian world is built on the model of the Soviet Union, with soviet administrative borders which cannot covere “departure of certain regions” outside the state borders. In my opinion, only the military administration (that means the war) can pass a law by which certain borders will be abolished and at the end of the war accepted by the rest of the world. No one will be then able to say no to the Russian machine. Like they didn’t to Stalin.That is why the international (business, dipl. politicants) elites are running away from this scenario so much, even though the military sector is Russia’s strongest asset. Although nothing will change in terms of the West behaviour (so-called international community) as they like to call themselves, to the rest of the world, ie the colonies. International elites are buying time until in reality nothing much changes, but rather the status quo compromise remains. This is exactly what the export-lobby wants and needs. While giving people just enough not to rebel, accustoming them to accept “reality” that nothing else can be done.
How are these migrants getting to Belarus anyway? Is Luka actually paying for their transit?
Lukashenko and/or Erdogan, methinks. More specifically, this is Lukashenko’s quite clever way of saying “thank you” to Poland and Lithuania. Lukashenko is of course assuming that Russia will step in to solve the problem.
“How are these migrants getting to Belarus anyway? ”
They are flying there. The flight and visa package to Belarus costs several thousand Euros.
For people who live in such a warm climate like in Iraq, they seem to be very well equipped with tech winter wear (some very nice upscale brands btw..)
If they have that much disposable income, why don’t they just fly directly to the EU as tourists? Why go through Minsk, and then camp out on a forest bordering Poland…?
This whole crisis is very peculiar.
I read that Belarus gave visas for free for these Middle-East countries, whereas to go in EU via official channels is much more difficult. Is this incorrect?
Btw, the same question could apply to people coming from Africa. In this case, some journalists found that there were some (criminal) organizations scouting, recruiting and delivering these people from their countries using false fliers to convince them to leave. Indeed, mostly they are from their middle class, not the poorest, and
in the interviews they admitted they were sincerely believing to find the a golden paradise, and not this sad reality of EU today. But probably this is not the case of Belarus now.
Belarus visa costs €1300
https://m.dw.com/en/heading-to-belarus-in-hope-of-a-better-life/a-59803899
A short stay Schengen visa is about
€80.
https://www.schengenvisas.com/how-to-apply-for-a-schengen-visa-from-iraq/
Maybe there are other requirements that we don’t know about…
Flight to Belarus + Hotel is approximately €4,000 and more. (The link above even mentions €17,000)
https://www.ft.com/content/9aaf4801-6460-4214-a6d8-7781f42af6cb
My point is that Belarus is neither the cheapest nor most direct way of getting to EU…
You got a point; maybe there are other bureaucratic tricks, or maybe, as for Africa, there are “”travel agencies”” organizing the trips, people usually pay and do not question the proposed path.
The intending asylum seeker would need to get a Schengen tourist visa. This in itself would be very difficult coming from the ME. I have a fairly well off South Africa friend (white), a retired scientist, who visited me in Spain in 2019. Coming from South Africa….he had to motivate his application to the Spanish embassy in RSA for a Schengen tourist visa with bank statements, credit cards, proof of ownership of his house, a return ticket and assorted credentials establishing that he would be committed to returning home. Had he, once he got to Spain, applied for asylum…then all the info he supplied in his application would be evidence that he did not need asylum. The (sensible) default attitude towards South Africans, especially blacks, is that they would be likely to want to leave South Africa unless he can prove otherwise…..I should think it would be next to impossible for a youngster from the ME to get a visa to go anywhere in the West.
The US government’s debts are well over $70 trillion. It can never even begin to pay them off – in fact the debt gets bigger every year, and the rate of increase is also increasing.
Someone who owes $70 trillion and has no intention of ever paying it back doesn’t worry about a few billion – it’s lunch money. But it can cause an awful lot of destruction.
This whole crisis is very peculiar.
Serbian Girl, Indeed it is….
Was scrolling thru a twitter feed and saw a pic of two Syrians “half dead and frozen”. What struck me were the (high quality) boots in the foreground.
Brand spanking new… looked like straight out of the box and never been on a foot.
Then the lass in the foreground was holding out a paper coffee cup…. Which also seemed pristine, with no coffee or liquid.
Twitter said the Syrians were Kurds, and I then wondered if I was seeing a White Helmets performance.
The Syrian ages were given as late 30s and 40 year old…..again, I wondered, …seems old to be an asylum seeker freezing to death in a forest in Poland.
But, of course, as twitter said, they were fleeing the regime of the evil dictator Assad…… in fear of their lives…. (So were they were armed opposition in Syria????)
So, somehow they’d got across the border, and were now freezing to death in a forest in Poland.
How did they get across? Why only two? Where did they get such new boots?
And if freezing, why not wear the boots.?
So many questions
Agree, yesterday I saw a very shocking video of “migrants” wearing way too new and high quality clothes even for European working class standars.
Called my attention young parents in modern technical clothes carrying their children as well very well equiped with what would be whole equipment to vacationing in sky resorts in Bsharry…
Especially I got astonished by a woman who allegedly had been transported from the Belarusian forests to a kinda sports pavillion, who showed herself with a very sophisticated make up in her face plus a high quality high end design stilish wool cardigan….
Not what you would expect from a woman who have not had access to higienic facilities for a while in the freezing forest nor what you would see anytime in the Middle East people one can find in the streets, I mean out of the minoritary super rich neighborhoods…
Thus, I wonder, who is these people? IMO, “translators”, like all those thousand evacuated from Afghanistan tp our countries to live on our expense while we freeze and bakrupt out of the pandemic measures and the effects of paying the consequent bill, the supply crisis, and coming banking and real state crisis…
It has all the smell of a well prepared operation….liek they are always refugees waves, btw…
Misha, you have good points in your comment. It is indeed possible that those ‘refugees’ are being brought to Europe in a geopolitical game to weaken certain countries. The whole ‘pandemic’ show may be just that: a cruel geopolitical game. States have become feudal entities competing with each other (see the recent restrictions in the UK against travels to countries such as Spain, Holland, etc.). People are being USED everywhere by those who want to benefit from winning, even if just partially and temporarily. The western elite is desperate, let’s face it.
This is the problem: Ukraine was lost because the leadership failed to make the right moves and now we have a repeat in Belarus, under different scenario.
Surely Putin will not allow a repeat and less any stupid moves from Lukashenko.
Those 600 Brits know well which other troops are behind the Belarus troops. They may have some sleepless nights and good so.
Cheers from France.
But you don’t tell us how you think this might happen. Russia does not meddle in other’s internal affairs.
Historically, Belarus has always been part of Russia. (As has much of Ukraine. And many of the other ex-Soviet nations).
The only reason Belarus, Ukraine and others are not now part of Russia is that so much confusion and anarchy followed the dissolution of the USSR. Ambitious politicians got up on their hind legs and declared the “independence” of nations that had never existed before in all of history.
The only thing preventing this today is Lukashenko, so this process has to begin by getting rid of him.
Are you suggesting RF do a colour revolution Andrei? No, I’m only (half-) joking. Agree that Lukashenko needs to go.
I’ve been reading about Belarus and the Union State (UnS) with some interest these couple of weeks: Belarus, a land-locked country with a population less than a tenth of Russia’s and a GDP that’s dwarfed by Russia’s is treated as an equal in the UnS — that’s a very good deal in anybody’s book. But of course Lukashenko has been stalling for 20 years for his own selfish reasons as you’ve elaborated.
Like you I believe integration is the best solution but I think in view of the foot dragging by Belarus, the UnS is the best that RF can hope for, in the near-term future anyway. Not ideal, certainly. But at least RF can get a bigger ‘footprint’ in Belarus; and secure its western border and get closer to the Suwalki Corridor and Kaliningrad (and Kiev). I’m not sure if VVP and RF leadership like and, even more important, trust him but as it is they’ll be pragmatic and work with him.
Lukashenko reminds me of Erdogan ie. opportunistic, unrealiable and megalomanic. The sooner Russia stops dealing with him the better. Problem is how to get rid of him?
I don’t think Poland want to show how good are in defending the borders; as other readers said, they are clashing with EU on more fundamental issues about wokeism and sovereignty, so this border stance will never help. They just don’t want immigrants at all, like the so-called Visegrad group opposing all EU immigration policies.
The only difference is that when thousands of immigrants each day are arriving in Italy from North Africa, nobody cares because it takes time and many difficulties for those people to spread across Europe. An Italian interior ministry who tried to slow down this (not stopping, just slowing), is facing a trial for supposed abduction or crimes against humanity, because Northern and Eastern EU countries are relatively safe.
But with immigrants from Belarus, they are directly invested, and bye bye human rights. Of course 3B+P wants to be the perfect NATO puppets for containing the “Russian aggression” and helping the Anglos to stop NS2.
If only It were that simple. Dangerous closure for this article. I’d reverse it totally: the most important thing at the moment Is that Lukashenko has to stay. Why I say this? Well, for one, the collection west is already at the third or fourth attempt at removing him in a matter of months. Now, we don’t want to help them or do their dirty work, do we? Lukashenko has to stay for the very same reason (and it’s a very valid one) that Erdogan had to stay: because Putin decided so, and thus a very good message did pass: “you” (collective west) don’t behead countries, don’t color revolution them, and don’t coup as freely ad you used to. let’s all pray that Gaddafi was the last big mistake in this sense.
For all these reasons, Lukashenko must be untouchable, and not a Yanukovich of sorts. I wish him a soft and pleasant transition in power, worthy of a Nazarbayev.
Besides, even if one were to agree with Andrei’s conclusions, this would be the worst possible moment, in the midst of a border crisis, every action from Russia (from announcing greater riunification measures to simply send paratroopers on the border) would be distorted in the same identical way: “evil Putin is gobbling up another free land like Crimea”.
That would be the collective reuters. So I say: let’s keep Lukashenko, and stay sure he handles this the best he can, “freeze conflicts” as in the DNR + LNR, don’t bite the venom apple.
Re:”𝘍𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘴, 𝘓𝘶𝘬𝘢𝘴𝘩𝘦𝘯𝘬𝘰 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘰𝘶𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘢 𝘠𝘢𝘯𝘶𝘬𝘰𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘰𝘧 𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴. 𝘐 𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘩 𝘩𝘪𝘮 𝘢 𝘴𝘰𝘧𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳, 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘩𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘢 𝘕𝘢𝘻𝘢𝘳𝘣𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘷.”
I sympathize with this view.
I do not have sufficient understanding of Belarus and its effect on Russian integration and strengthening, but if it can be tolerated (the continued presence of Lukashenko) without harming the Union State and consolidation against the West, I would like to see him last and ease into an “emeritus status” a la Nazarbaev.
His survival would permanently enrage the West (like “Assad must go” nonsense) – a Russian one finger salute, with Lukashenko that middle finger, designed to emotionally unbalance them and afford Russia room for maneuver, good cop-bad cop style. And it would be a demonstration to entire world of the new correlation of forces and impotence of color revolution trick, swaying many heartened vassals and fence sitters to move to Zone B.
I will offer contrarian view of Libya. Maybe Gaddafi wasn’t a mistake? Medvedev’s hands handled the dirty work, keeping Putin’s clean. Remember Russia was not ready in 2011, so far away from its own borders; even now, as Saker and Smoothie say, it cannot go too far. This was not tiny adjacent Georgia. So a realpolitik calculation may have been made, to allow the Beasts to gorge themselves on a weak wealthy African nation, and keep them busy and far away for a while longer. And the consequences for migration streams into Europe were self evident (Gaddafi himself pleaded for mercy, on account of shielding EU from African human tidal wave!) and that American and EU elites wanted to flood Europe with African/MENA migrants was known for generations (Kalergi Plan) ..
I once stood on Carthage (Tunisia) and could see Italy with my unaided eyes. Libya is almost as close to many points of southern Europe. Libya is an ideal crossing point into Europe for traffickers, a stacking of functions in addition to basic looting, ending the African Gold Dinar plan and African Unity..
So it was clear the taps were being fully opened on the elite suicidal Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan, designed to weaken and prepare Europe for the NWO. Russia chose to stand aside. They have experience watching British and European light brigade charges!
So Libya bought Russia another 4-5 years and was not a mistake?
It is clear that the west really despises Lukashenko so maybe having him around as an irritant makes sense. Let’s face it there is no other leader out there that embodies the old style Soviet leaders more than he does. He almost has a comic book villain type persona!
The West not only despises Lukashenko; it absolutely hates the man. He was vacillating and showed ominous signs of poor judgmental abilities, similar to Gadaffi and Yanukovich. However, as the colour revolution stunt was unleashed in August last year from across the border, Lukashenko instantly came to his senses. With a groundswell of popular support and the professionalism of the Belarusian KGB, the nonsense was defeated in a heartbeat.
The Union State soon to be proclaimed between Belarus and the Russian Federation does not exactly improve Lukashenko’s standing in the eyes of the Zionazis. And now he is having fun at his adversaries’ expense at the very same border they were using to destabilize Belarus. Lukashenko is a truly excellent ’irritant’ indeed!
Heck, I would like to see Lukashenko schedule a photo-op of him handing out sack lunches and Polish Xlotys to the refugees. Enjoy your vacation in Poland!
Right. And appointing Gównopolska’s legitimate President — Людмила Путина. She was born in Kaliningrad, so Gównopolska has been an area within her reach, so to speak.
“So Libya bought Russia another 4-5 years and was not a mistake?”
It looks like this is the truth. Good strategy, if you want to exhaust big bully, is to let punch himself out. When he is done, sweaty and with dropped hands, then you can win easily. More so if bully is foulmouthed hasbeen-champion addicted to lavish life, easy money, sex, drugs and R&R.
Amazingly, exactly the same natural principle applies on state level.
I speak as an onlooker with absolute ignorance of Belarus on the ground, but: what do Belarussian people think about their country, its relationship to Russia and how they would like things to move forward?
Politics is not about treating a whole populace like serfs and slaves, saying: ‘this is what is happening, you don’t have a say’, is it?
You are ways too much optimistic. The reality I am afraid, is that the majority of Belarusian people (especially the youngest) are against any further integration with Russia. They will not accept a formal union where Belarusm as a foreign state, ceases to exist. Unfortunatately, this will not happen
Lewis
And you know that how?
What are the sources for your claims? Is it the RadioFree Europe?
@Lewis
I think you might be on to something here. With foreign backing provided by first class intellectuals such as https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tikhanovskaya%20bhl%20photo&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/1-42.jpg&t=iphone Lukashenko is in deep trouble /sarc off/.
While Lukashenko leaves a lot to be desired what about the recent agreements between Russia and Belarus? Those seemed to have gone very well. I don’t see Lukashenko voluntarily stepping down but maybe he could be entices to eventually step down and retire? He could ask for Russian assistance with guarding the border.
there is no comparison between a Polish solider (or a Lithuanian one, for that matter) and a Belarusian one, it would be like comparing perfumed and fluffy show-dog with a wolf
comparing perfumed and fluffy show-dog with a wolf
very very funny,,,,the imagery is so stark. well done.
Lukashenko kept Belarus from going down the rabbit hole that swallowed Ukraine, and nearly destroyed Russia.
He kept intact the considerable public health system built by the Soviets, which he inherited… In consequence Belarus suffers ~ 1900 new COVID cases / day …. with deaths averaging ~ 1% == 15 – 19 / day or so…. far below the rate in Russia itself.
He is such a nuisance that Belarus recently completed a 40 Mwe hydroelectric project and a 1200 Mwe nuclear power project, and together with China is building a massive free trade zone targeting cargo shipments between the EU and the PRC.
The EU wants to destroy his successes, because how dare he???
Also, he is no coward, far different from Yanukovich… who basically threw the Ukrainian people under the bus…
I, for one, think Belarus could do far worse, and Russia far better with a helmsman who dares… wins…
And….
I’m sure… Putin finds him useful…
As for Gazprom’s NordStream 2… were I running things… the pipeline would be Russian owned… and I’d tell Lukashenko to turn off the tap… and the Novorossians to destroy the key pumping stations in range with counter-battery fire… and the Abkhazians to take all of Georgia west of S. Ossetia and Armenia… shutting down the pipelines in the process…
Then… were I Putin… I’d go on a vacation to the Taiga….
INDY
Honestly with the current russophobia in the EU I think that russian soldiers at the Belarus border with Poland would be used by the EU/nato as evidence that russia/putin is the real the mastermind of the crisis and that it would be used to put more sanctions on Russia triggering a new round of escalation.
I understand the logic but I am not sure the EU can rationally react to anything Russia does or says. The EU doesn’t even listen to reality. Germany just delayed the certification of NS2 despite rising gas prices and the risk of energy shortages in Europe.
What can someone do against this level of stupidity and blindness?
The Belarussians have opened up a potential second front, a northern front, luring Poles into a future conflict not only involving Belarus but also Ukraine. The Poles have territorial aspirations in Ukraine. Ukrainian northen borders are undefended because all their forces are concentrated and looking for trouble in the south(east). This puts pressure on Kiev, they will have to think twice before attacking Donbas; not only might Russia get involved but also Poland (via Belarus) in the partition of Ukraine.
Ukraine sends more than 8,500 police officers to the border with Belarus
Really? Where did you get this information?
It’s very easy to become provoked in these situations, but I think VVP conducts the right policy.
Belarus is de facto Russia now after memorandum on unified gas market, labour market, taxes, military cooperation and so on.
It is good for Belarus and Russia to put maximum pressure on NATO in Poland and Baltics.
As for Ukraine, its worthless, only Donetsk and Lughansk should be defended, the rest can collapse and reintegrate with Russia at later time.
As for the west , its living on borrowed time. They are too weak to do anything, and instagram generation wont die for democracy or whatever they call it now
Instagram generation will be way to weakened to fight anything alive by their frenzie to rush to get their “Green Pass” to continue travelling as before, as the increasing case of super fitting people from the high level sports terminating their careers on sudden cardiac arrests so clearly shows, while the authorities forgot to warn them that they should renew their “passes” every 6 months to be able to conserve their privileges, adding in the way for opportunities to win the lottery of suffering dangerous side effects for which, so tellingly, the Australian government has already ordered a compensation fund, offering a meager 13.000$ to each people for the damage done, sometimes crippling for life, to avoid tribunals….
I agree completely with your basic point, but you added one important item which I can’t swallow. Saker wrote, “Belarus .. still remains weak, mostly because of Lukashenko’s incompetence and lack of vision.”
This looks like the typical demonizing of a leader whom the Empire is attacking.
Saker offers no evidence that Lukashenko is incompetent, or lacks vision, or is even a dictator.
I’ve seen a few Youtubers travel in Belarus, and, apart from “bald and bankrupt” who railed about the poverty of the villages compared to the cities, I have never seen anything to suggest the economy is run badly. The videographers all show Belarus has a relatively high standard of living, and that the people are polite, decent and hardworking. But Belarus has no mineral wealth, no oil, and the farmland is not as good as the “black earth” of the Ukraine. The main export earner is software, such as World Of Tanks and ironically it’s the software developers who are the Empire-oriented liberals.
Lukashenko has always said he is willing to leave office when the time is right. The 2020 elections were honest and only a Soros minion tries to claim otherwise. I believe Russia is not keen on linking up with Belarus in part because it would be an economic drain, and, I conjecture, it might be a dilution of Russian determination and political perspective. But in any case, no one seems to have documented any of the supposed failings of the Belarus government.
If there is dirt on the Belarus government, show it. If the dirt doesn’t exist, put this inuendo in the dumpster.
Belarus tractors are sold all over the world and not cheap. http://belarus-tractor.com/en/ got to be a bigger earner than software
Well, Lukashenko is not dumb. What’s more, he is a man of action. He is one of those old jokers in power who pretend to be “a people’s man”, but is very serious when needed. This crisis is a case in point.
His little play on the border of Poland is ordered by Russia. Russia needs an excuse to send troops to Belarus because of the Ukraine. I am surprised how a good military analyst like Andrei fails to see that.
Russia doesn’t need any ‘excuse’ to send troops to Belarus.
Russia not just supporting but consolidating with Donbass? Supplies in advance to be able to defend?
MOSCOW, November 15. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree on humanitarian support for people living in certain districts of Ukraine’s Donetsk and Lugansk regions. The document was posted on the official portal of legal information on Monday.
According to the document, the decision was taken “in order to protect human rights and freedoms, to provide humanitarian support for the population of certain districts of Ukraine’s Donetsk and Lugansk region and to prevent further worsening of living conditions amid the continuing economic blockade and the deteriorating coronavirus situation.”
The document emphasizes that the Russian president took this decision “guided by the generally recognized principles and norms of international humanitarian law.”
Serbia is happier
BELGRADE, November 16. /TASS/. Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said during his tour of the armaments exhibition on the occasion of Army Day that he was grateful to Russia for the delivery of military hardware to the republic, in particular, T-72MS tanks.
“We have received this from Russians. [Russian Defense Minister] Sergey Shoigu recently handed over this hardware to us. The hardware was transferred in Nis. Indeed, we are grateful to our Russian friends that they have sent it [the materiel] to us. These tanks [T-72MS] have special protection and the transfer took place in Nis,” Vucic said.
The president asked Serbian tank crews about their opinion about the Russian armor. “This is the best tank in the world,” a Serbian armored corps officer said.
Russia earlier handed over 30 T-72MS tanks and 30 BRDM-2MS armored personnel carriers worth 75 million euros to Serbia. Vucic also said that the first batch of Kornet anti-tank missile systems would arrive in Serbia from Russia by the end of the year.
JJ
Cudos for keeping your eyes on the ball. Not many people have noticed that. What it means is that two Donbass Republics will be treated exact same way as if they are part of Russia, with regard to trade. Their production and manufacturing is going through the roof now as they now have a huge Russian market!
ta. To my mind Serbia is being prepared for any further Kosovo issues and complications from Eu over that area……..and legal humanitarian concerns to more definitely protect Donbass from ukrops. Hope so.
enhanced justification to defend Donbass….a right to protect?
MOSCOW, November 17. /TASS/. The Western countries violate the Minsk Accords by saying they are ready to send their military and to supply weapons to Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told a news briefing on Wednesday.
“Regrettably, we have to say that Kiev’s warmongering receives support from the United States and its NATO allies. They are stepping up efforts to increase their presence in Ukraine and in the Black Sea region in military terms,” she said.
“From the European countries one can hear statements they are ready to move extra contingents to Ukraine, although the package of measures to implement the Minsk Accords, in particular, paragraph 10 requires pullout of all military units, equipment and mercenaries from Ukraine under OSCE observation. It turns out that not only Kiev, but the Western countries, too, violate the Minsk Accords,” she said……..
more via tass.
https://tass.com/world/1362911
“UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace signed a treaty with Ukraine last week, under which the country’s government can access financing for contracts with UK suppliers to help beef up its naval capabilities.
It is expected to help deliver two mine counter-measures vessels (MCMV), the joint production of eight missile ships, the delivery of and retrofit of weapons systems to existing vessels, and the joint production of a frigate and consultancy and technical support for the building of naval infrastructure including the delivery of equipment…….”
this confirmation of recent memorandum
joint statement from Mr Wallace and Ukraine Defence Minister Oleksii Yuriyovych Reznikov said: ‘Ukraine and the United Kingdom are strategic partners in security and defence.
‘Last week, an Intergovernmental Framework Agreement was signed in London.
‘This document continues progress on joint projects to develop the capabilities of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as agreed in June when the UK, Ukraine and industry signed a Memorandum of Implementation to collaborate to boost Ukraine’s naval capabilities.’
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note France and Germany re Minsk and Russia trying to get them to stop Ukraine fighting.
https://www.rt.com/russia/540609-france-germany-plan-donbass/
However, in a joint reply signed by the German and French foreign ministers, Heiko Maas and Jean-Yves Le Drian, the two Western nations rejected the suggestions. According to them, the resolution “contains many assessments that are not shared by Germany and France,” including the description of fighting in the Donbass as an internal issue. “It also entails provisions that will certainly not find acceptance among ‘Normandy’ states, inter alia the ‘establishment of a direct dialogue between Kiev, Donetsk, and Lugansk’” it went on.
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“Kornet anti-tank missile systems would arrive in Serbia from Russia by the end of the year.”
I was wondering when Kornets will come into Serbia. Towed by TOS2-s. Maybe a couple of “Willows” jumps off the truck too?
When that happens, Bondsteel will become quite obsolete. More so after losing that lucrative Afghan Poppies transit contract.
Jokes aside, it is not wise for Serbs to push their luck too far by jumping into brewing Clash of the Titans too early.
“More so after losing that lucrative Afghan Poppies transit contract.”
The drug markets have changed enormously over recent years. It makes more sense for those selling drugs to manufacture drugs within the market – e.g. the USA. Perhaps that is one of the reasons why the USA (and CIA) abandoned Afghanistan in such a hurry.
Fentanyl, for example, is 50-100 times more powerful than heroin. Suggested reading:
“True Tales of America and Hope in the Time of Fentanyl and Meth ”
https://www.amazon.com/Least-Us-Tales-America-Fentanyl-ebook/dp/B0932RRNVL/
Here is an audio interview with the author:
https://www.thepodcastbrowser.com/sam-quinones-on-meth-fentanyl-and-the-least-of-us/
@Alfred (Antalya)
“Perhaps that is one of the reasons why the USA (and CIA) abandoned Afghanistan in such a hurry.”
That still doesn’t change the fact that Bondsteel lost important stream of income. US are in position to compensate that with printing more money, for how long?
Additional details to consider:
1) the Border crises could be carefully manufactured cooperation between Russia and EU.
On the surface it seems like a conflict between Russia and EU. But look deeper and notice its Belarus vs Poland. Two disobedient states of their respective camps.
2) Russia helps the EU assert control over Poland. If one looks closely the EU is in major legal battles with the Poles and Hungarians who are becoming pesky trying to usurp Brussels control. So Russia pressures these small states who must cave into EU demands to resolve the “migrant crisis”.
A) Coincidentally the EU high court strikes down Polish demands for judicial appointments.
B) On top of this the EU aims to develop a rapid deployment force by 2025. Great! Whatever weakens NATO is great for Russia. So the russian troops on the border give the EU reason to argue for european defense against NATO as well.
C) lastly, the certification process for Nord Stream 2 was suspended. People might say the EU is harming the process to get back at Putin. But they are willing to tolerate high gas prices. Cui bono? Who does this affect? It affects the weakest economies in the EU. Poland and the weaker economies fall in line with Berlin and Paris demands. And Nord Stream 2 is justified to lower gas prices for the rebellious eastern euros.
3) The EU helps Russia assert control over Belarus
A) Belarus has been a difficult partner for Russia in some aspects. After crushing EU sanctions, Belarus suddenly signs a memorandum of over 20 agreements deepening cooperation with Russia. Hmmm very convenient. Now we also see Russian VDV and TU160 flying willy nilly over Belarus. Lukashenko was suddenly compelled to run to his Russian daddy.
B) the EU contradicts the US and Ukraine about imminent russian invasion. Yes we see occassional warnings to Putin to stop the deadly russian aggression! But it seems EU is not convinced about the russian threat. Saying that they are not convinced about the invasion of Ukraine. Hmmm they deflated the US and Ukraine charade with one press release.
C) Europe sanctions Belarusian airlines, and other entities, but leaves Russia clear. Hmmm it seems Europe contributes to the monopolization of Russian industry over Belarus! Belavia is hit hard, and aeroflot will fly precious belarusians wherever they must go. On top of this the Druzhba pipeline is now fully Putin’s! Talk about a unified gas market.
Anyway we will see the european sanctions and how the benefit Russia
Interesting.
Perhaps you can help me by answering a simple question:
How do two adversaries gain by strengthening each other?
Russian Army….. dude.
Imma suspecting you consume a lot of Hal Turner, Jim Stone and Sorcha Faal, believing these to be an alternative to the fake news CNN / msm. ?
Dude. No. Just no.
If you’re not a troll, you can be glad you found your way here….if I can’t be presumptuous with a word of advice, before posting too much more, hang around and learn, cause, at the moment your comments fall well into the blatant nonsense category.
I fully support thoughtcrimes, no matter how offended the status quo may be, so good show, because a case for the counter narratives is always a constructive thought exercise, and it keeps the mind working. Plus, nothing ever is simply a black and white, us versus them story, as people would desire it to be, life is billions of narratives entering and exiting spacetime all at once.
I fully agree, and sometimes it helps to turn an apparent, or even rightfully assessed circumstance, on its side, to see understand the nature of the piece from another angle.
This is also not only a valuable thinking exercise, but also employed by artists. Obviously ‘no can do’ in the sense meant (critical thinking, perception evaluation,) with computer techno. art.
Those who find this difficult, or just at times only, are too deeply bound to their own emotional ego perception altogether, or in the single instances that may crop up, respectively.
Nice theory.
However, you grossly overestimate the intelligence of the EU’s unelected Commission. Heavens, their “foreign minister” went to Moscow and tried to give a lecture to Lavrov.
Funny how Google and the others clean up history so that these embarrassing meetings are no longer to be found. :)
Here is the theory of Martin Armstrong. He believes George Soros is behind it. Soros is behind the mass population movement to Europe across the Mediterranean. He finances much of it. He has 1/3 of MEP’s in his pocket.
“Border Crisis in Poland is the Tip of the Iceberg | Armstrong Economics”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/immigration-world-news/border-crisis-in-poland-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/
Great article! Many thanks.
Belarus is a difficult situation for it and Russia.
I would has thought with the CIS there would be more unity not requiring a merging.
Again its the EU (elites) interfering in the east of part of this multi-level and dimensional attack on Russia.
And now its own domestic ‘flood EU with immigrants’ policy is backfiring on it causing Poland to see the light.
So is this a tactic to get Poland to leave the EU ?
Or is it Poland now asserting its own nationalist agenda as a glove in the face of Brussels which it has long wanted to do ?
Most Poles probably have had a belly full of Brussels.
Lukashenko clearly has to go. Been there far too long to start with.
I’m sure Putin can find a suitable and fair replacement.
The victims in this are immigrants who need a home.
Perhaps they should be resettled in the homes of EU leaders (politicians, bankers and royals) – tents on front and back lawns – to show their sincerity of the Soros Open Society agenda they are running ?
Will Macron, Merkel etc… do it though ?
Russian troops on the border would be a great idea.
Like in the good old days pre-1991.
It would certainly put the EU on notice of a change of gear.
I believe Luca is doing to EU what they’ve been doing to RU. I’m sure there has been a wink and nod from some place east. I say let Poland stew.
It is doubtful Lukashenko will relinquish power unless compelled by factors outside his control. He identifies with Belarus which he very much regards as his own creation. Also people in their 50’s ,the parents of the idiot rioters during the summer of 2020 know it too well that it was Lukashenko that spared them the dire experience of Russia and Ukraine citizens in the ’90-es and early” 20. Without his hold to state enterprise they too would have turn into beggars for a loaf of bread and their wives and daughters into prostitutes which is pretty much what the Russians and Ukraine had to go through for the 15 years or so after the collapse of the Soviet Union. That they did not share that fate, they owed to this bastard.
Kissinger has saying about some of the most brutal dictators in Latin America that played to the tune of US policy makers : “this dictator ( there were a few of them) is a son of the bitch, but he is our son of the bitch”..I think Putin think much in the same terms about Lukashenko.
Besides this, I think is also abundantly clear ( whether that is accepted or not) that Luka is absolutely ruthless and has more balls and is certainly a lot more vengeful ( perhaps less strategic thinking ) but certainly more balls than Putin ever had. He can not let go that the bastards in Poland ,Lithuania and others in the west wanted to remove him from power and he is hell bend on making them pay one way or another. Putin acts as a restraining factor here.
It would certainly benefit all for Belarus and Russia to unite, but his ego is too big to allow that. I think Russia will also not pushing for the time being fore more than the military union and perhaps a joint central bank and currency. As long as Lukashenko is power more will not be possible
Belarus and half of Ukraine should never have been independent of Russia. They became that way because Russia was so weak and wussy at the end of the Cold War.
In my opinion, your take on Mr Lakashenko sounds a a bit harsh and a bit odd. Is it not the same thing the EU has been calling for? That alone is sufficient reason for him to stay in power as long as he likes. No, the way is for Russia to be generous and supportive of Minsk and let things take their natural course over time.
“Biden: U.S. does not support ‘Taiwan independence”- CGTN
“Biden says Taiwan’s independence is up to Taiwan” – CNN
“It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.” – Henry Kissinger
(Hold on your DEL keys, Mods. This has strong connections to Belarus situation.)
That quote from Kissinger is simply not what it’s made out to be. The actual quote contains a huge if in it, so in context, the quote is in the conditional sense, and it’s clear Kissinger meant the opposite. Here’s what I gleaned from https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-what-it-means-to-be-a-u-s-ally-1.5252060 which is behind a paywall.
Kissinger once warned that were American to turn against South Vietnam’s President Thieu [1968], “the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.”
I’ve learned to be very cautious about quotes. 98% of the people simply copy and paste without verifying the provenance. The more spectacular the quote, the more this is true. This quote is all over the Indian and Pakistani internet sites recently, never giving any source.
I’m glad that you didn’t put into question the objectivity of the quoted statement.
The statement itself is true, and follows from the basic principle that an empire devours first its enemies – if it can, and then devours its allies and in the end it also devours the home population. Lots of people have written about this. But it would have been eye-popping if a Kissinger were to simply say this, as it would have been a new level in cynicism and disregard for world opinion. But as we can see, he said the opposite.
Kissinger’s comment is an example of an inadvertent admission.
Though he may not have intended it, Kissinger is spilling the beans that America has no allies nor friends, despite its standard Orwellian rhetoric about its precious “democratic allies and partners.”
In practice, America only has (disposable) assets to be deployed to serve American imperial interests. Period. Full stop.
That is America’s capitalistic mentality in a nutshell. You are either an asset or a liability that is measured only in terms of America’s cost/benefit calculus and its war against its enemies.
In this sense, it is much better to be an enemy of the American Evil Empire, as you have no delusions about its true intentions.
I find it quite incredible at how – after a thousand years of Imperial Russia – we have about 70 years of the USSR and now everything is turned on its head!
My father’s family were Poles living in Mogilev and his grandfather was a “Надворный советник (Nadvórnyy sovétnik / Court Counselor)” to the Tsar and was just 7 positions from the top. He’d married Sabina Bronislawa Biestrzykowska, who came from a noble family in western Poland and the family considered themselves part of the Russian Empire..My grandfather (Vladislav Vladislavovich Pio-Ulski) was called by the Tsar to join the RI military and went to Kronstadt to become a Russian naval engineer. His cousin Georgeiy Nikolaivovich Pio-Ulsky, from Pskov, was a famous designer/inventor in the Imperial Navy.
My mother’s father was a Georgian who was an officer with the 206th Infantry Salyan His Imperial Highness the Crown Prince Regiment, fought it WWI and received several medals from the Tsar.
Both grandmothers were Russian, one born in Sevastopol, one born in Odessa.
Both sets of families fled from Vladivostok when the Bolsheviks overran the city and ended up in China, before my parents met in Shanghai.
My heritage shows how both Belorus and the Ukraine were totally Russian before the wicked regime of the USSR took over and I find it so sad that all the places I think of being Russian are turning their backs on their “motherland”!
What a putrid world we live in!
@White Russian
Interesting story. We have something in common.
My ancestors were Russians and Belarussians from the Vitebsk, Minsk, and Polotsk areas. The paternal side were Russian army officers, originally from Moscow, but transplanted to White Russia early in the 19th century. They served as officers in the local army regiments and as officials at nearby Cadet Corps schools. The maternal side were local landowners who first appeared on the books in the 1400s, as boyars in the service of the Prince of Smolensk. In the 1500s, they transferred their loyalty to the Lithuanian Grand Duke, who awarded them estates in White Russia which they kept up through 1918. That family (the maternal) became members of the szlachta during the times of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, but were rolled into the Russian armorial by the early 1800s. That side of the family produced many military officers, some of them members of the Life Guards regiments in St. Petersburg. Among those family members were an adjutant general for Nicholas I, two page boys for Tsar Paul I, a marshal of the nobility in a certain Russian guberniya, and a number of other notable figures. Naturally, all branches of my family were loyal to the monarchy during the 1917 revolution, favoring gradual political change via slow liberalization of the system from within and opposing violent upheaval of any sort. After the 1919-21, most of my ancestors fled to France, Sweden, and the United States. Some however remained in the nearly formed Soviet Union, and actually made names for themselves in important state positions during the 20th century.
I grew up with a strong sense of Russian history, and as far as I’m concerned, the trouble unfolding now in Belarus and Ukraine is due entirely to the Atlantic Alliance’s ambitions of expanded their geopolitical and strategic power into those regions. In other words, the Russian World is once again being invaded by the West. Russia if fighting a defensive fight, one that is morally righteous and politically justified. The Atlantic Alliance is the aggressor.
Putin has proven himself to be a capable leader and he’s surrounded himself with a strong team. I trust they have done all the necessary analyses of the present international situation, including risk management. Putin and his team understand the dire threat posed to the Russian World by the Atlantic Alliance’s growing military presence in Ukraine. At some point Russia will have to take the offensive in Ukraine in order to remove this threat. I’m watched the news in earnest these days, wondering if that time has come. I will sleep easier when Ukraine is finally split down middle, along the Dniepr River, with its eastern side absorbed into Russia and the western remnant existed as an independent Ukraine that’s permanently neutralized by the international community just the same as Austria was in 1946.
Western media likes to say that Putin and Russia are aggressive, essentially a menace on the world scene. But the exact opposite is the truth. Putin and Russia are in a position to make strong moves to ensure world peace. That will happen when Russia puts an end to the Atlantic Alliance’s reckless adventurism and empire building schemes.
Lukashenko must go and Russia and Belarus must truly unite.
perhaps these two dictates could be viewed separately, Belarus reunite with Russia, some day it Must anyway, and Lukashenko remain, for the time being anyway. the media hounds of hell would like to discharge him it appears, but the whole hoo-ha may settle down and vanish anyway, when a new distraction and engagement of political bedevilment manifests. maybe better take the pragmatic view …
“…So my solution to this entire crisis is simple: fully unify Russia and Belarus…”
My view is also similar. But I see Ukraine joining in also.
Russia-Belarus-Ukraine Union.
It is for this reason that I support Russia invading and annexing Ukraine.
In this oversimplification of the dissapearing of Belarus as a state and its current head of state it would be good to count on the Belarusian population will.
I think they should be awarded the same right to a referendum on anexation than the Crimean had.
Of course, there are advantages in joining the Russian Federation, but also disadvantages, amongst them avoiding the ubiquitous globalist mandatory sanitary QR code to funtion as a “normal” citizen…
As the recent case of a US citizen involved in the Capitol events show, Belarus remains of the of few, if not the unique country where anyone affected by totalitarian measures can ask for refuge, a rights ensrined in the UN Charter on Human Rights, thus, for the time being, I think quite convenient for Belarus remaining an independent country, it will benefit from that and the consequent drain of brains irremediably will take place sooner than later out of the EU and even Russia, as it was the case when a highly educated jewish community fled to the US during in the past Reich….
Belarus shutting down oil pipeline to EU for 3 days for maintenance…..a signal?
Saker,
I think you missed one important moment with this migrant crisis which is the route for those migrants.
If those migrants can pass through Belarus and Russia then more of them would take that route which is something neither Russia, nor Belarus wants or needs.
The entire sparing match is in everyone’s interest as you pointed out.
It is well known that for the common citizen semi-socialist Belarus is way better than oligarchic Russia. However, since Russia can’t be joined to Belarus but it must be other way around, therefore the idea that “Lukashenko must go and Russia and Belarus must unite”. So, I would rather say: Russia and Belarus should unite regardless of the ambitions of either Putin or Lukashenko since it seems that Putin’s thirst for power is not any less acute.
In fact, during the first year of pandemic, Lukashenko seemed to worry less about him than about his people, when he refused a hundreds of billions loan by the IMF on the condition of shutting down the country socially and economically, with which he did not only save the modest Belarusian economy and, in the way, as The Saker states, not so modest industry, but also saved his people from the current human, social, economic and human rights carnage of historic proportions, in the worst sense, we are suffering in The West.
He could have accepted the IMF loan and then divert it directly to his pockets, as they continue doing non stop higuest authorities in charge in the Ukraine from 7 years on already…
Thus, really worried about money, he does not seem…he seems to really care…
Fighting for your life isn’t the same as murder.
— General Black in “Fail Safe”
I highly recommend that everybody watch the old movie “Fail Safe”. I think it is important enough to post a transcript I made of two of what I believe to be the most important conversations within it.
The first conversation takes place after the US president orders fighter jets to shoot down the Group 6 bombers that are mistakenly flying to Russia to drop nuclear bombs on Moscow. What will the Russians will do in response?
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Prof. Groeteschele: In my opinion, they will take no action at all.
Someone else: They’re not going to just sit there, professor.
Prof. Groeteschele: I think if our bombers get through, the Russians will surrender.
Someone else: Who’s this “professor”, Mr. Secretary? What’s he doing there?
Someone else: Prof. Groeteschele is a civilian adviser to the pentagon, General. Will you explain your statement, professor?
Prof. Groeteschele: The Russian aim is to dominate the world. They think that communism must succeed if the Soviet Union is left reasonably intact. They know that a war would leave the Soviet Union utterly destroyed. Therefore, they would surrender.
Someone else: But suppose they feel they can knock us off first?
Prof. Groeteschele: They know we might have a doomsday system – missiles that will go into action days, even weeks, after a war is over and destroy an enemy even after that enemy has already destroyed us.
General Black: Maybe they’ll think that even capitalists aren’t THAT insane to want to kill even after they themselves have been killed.
Prof. Groeteschele: These are Marxist fanatics, not normal people. They do not reason they way you reason, General Black. They are not motivated by human emotions such as rage and pity. They are calculating machines. They will look at the balance sheet and they will see that they cannot win.
Someone else: Then you suggest doing what, professor?
Prof. Groeteschele: Nothing.
Someone else: Nothing!?
Prof. Groeteschele: The Russians will surrender and the threat of communism will be over…. forever.
Someone else: That’s a lot of hogwash!! Don’t kid yourself. There are Russian generals who will react just as I would – the best defense is a good offense. They see trouble coming up, take my word for it, they’ll attack and they won’t give a damn what Marx said!
Prof. Groeteschele: Mr. Secretary, I am convinced that the moment the Russians know that bombs will fall on Moscow, they will surrender. They know that whatever they do then, they cannot escape destruction. Don’t you see, sir, this is our chance! We never would have made the first move deliberately, but group 6 has made if for us by accident. We must take advantage of it. History demands it! We must advise the president not to recall those planes.
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The second conversation from “Fail Safe” takes place not long after the first, after the president asks for advice on what the US should do in the event that the bombers get through to Moscow. This is the “First Strike Argument” for which that movie is so famous among people of my generation and even several after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXZF6DwKvCI
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Prof. Groeteschele: Every minute we wait works against us. NOW, Mr. Secretary, now is when we must send in a first strike!
Someone else: We don’t go in for sneak attacks We had that done to us at Pearl Harbor.
Prof. Groeteschele: And the Japanese were right to do it. From their point of view, we were their mortal enemy. As long as we existed, we were a deadly threat to them. Their only mistake was that they failed to finish us at the start, and they paid for that mistake at Hiroshima.
Someone else: You’re talking about a different kind of war.
Prof. Groeteschele: Exactly! This time, WE can finish what WE start. And if we act now, right now, our casualties will be minimal. (Earlier, at a dinner party that takes place near the beginning of the movie, the prof had described “minimal” to the other guests as 60 million dead in the US.)
General Black: You know what you’re saying?
Prof. Groeteschele: Do you believe that communism is not our mortal enemy?
General Black: You’re justifying murder.
Prof. Groeteschele: Yes!………to keep from being murdered!
General Black: In the name of what? To preserve what? Even if we do survive, what are we, better than what we say they are? What gives us the right to live? What makes us worth surviving — that we are ruthless enough to strike first?
Prof. Groeteschele: Yes!!! Those who CAN survive are the only ones worth surviving!
General Black: Fighting for your life isn’t the same as murder.
Prof. Groeteschele: Where do you draw the line once you know what the enemy is? How long would the Nazis have kept it up if every Jew they came after had met them with a gun in his hand? But I learned from them, General Black; oh, I learned.
General Black: You learned too well, Professor. You learned so well that now there is no difference between you and what you want to kill.
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Yes, fighting for your life is not the same as murder — the latter being what the US has been doing around the world for many, many decades under the guise of “defending its interests”, and getting away with that mass murder, scot free.
“Fail Safe” was another in a long line of self-delusionary fantasies that, although containing really valuable dialogue and concepts that are perfectly relevant to today’s “situation”, at the end it contains a scenario (in response to Moscow’s “accidental” nuclear obliteration of Moscow by a US bomber, in order to prevent a nuclear WWIII that would destroy the human species of animal, the president orders Gen. Black to drop two 20-megaton bombs on New York City and Black carries out that order) that would never ever happen in reality today. We know that Dubya, O’bomb’em and the Tangerine Jackass would have followed the advice of Prof. Groeteschele. Mr. Potato Head will likely follow his orders to do the same when it comes to Russia and China if the present daily threats, economic siege and conventional weapons do not yield the Western Oligarchic Transnational Elite Collective’s desired result.
One can only imagine the kinds of conversations that are taking place within WOTEC’s nodes all over the world (the transnational groups of Oligarchs who were rescued by the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, setting the titanic, perpetual-growth-requiring capitalist systems on a collision course with an iceberg called human and environmental reality), but, in particular, within the MIC’s corporate oligarchy in Washington, especially when one considers what the US has done militarily and financially to the rest of the world since the voluntary “collapse” of the Soviet Union, and, now, the obvious, flailing insanity of just about everything ameriKKKan. The perfect example of this is the Iraq war (a war that idiot Dubya claimed was about saving America from Iraq’s WMDs but knew perfectly well was really about prolonging a fatally flawed economic system). IAEA inspectors told Dubya BEFORE the invasion that these WMDs did not exist, but that did not stop WOTEC’s invasion of self-preservation. After the invasion it was proven that in fact Iraq did not have WMDs. But, even though Iraq was innocent of the reason given for the war, the WOTEC warmongers, including O’bomb’em, keep trumpeting that the war was necessary and right, anyway.
But the real human irony is that Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc. etc. in reality do have a WMD to use against the nation that oppresses them — ironically, the very same weapon that the US employs against all its allies and enemies every single day of the week — the USD. All these oppressed nations have to do is to, TODAY, stop accepting the USD as payment for absolutely anything; and to not use any USD to pay for absolutely anything. If these nations did this, in unison, today, the US empire would be “over” tomorrow. How many phone calls between the oligarchies of those oppressed nations would it take to get that unanimity?
But these nations’ oligarchic classes will not do that because doing that would cause the present whatever-you-want-to-call-it “system” to fail. They’d lose the lifestyle to which they feel that they are entitled. Yes, initially, doing that would cause some major chaos in every respect, but nothing like the chaos that the upcoming, so-far-unstoppable war is going to cause. By continuing to use the USD, humanity is going to cause its own demise. Now, that is irony.
I will close, as I began, with something that WOTEC had better understand before they “accidentally” destroy the world, and that right soon:
Fighting for your life isn’t the same as murder.
— General Black in “Fail Safe”
If I remember right Putin, in response to the US/NATO destruction of Libya, invoked a Russian saying about “continually stepping on its own rake.” He chided the West for forcing democratic change from without. Never works, never has. Putin and Russia are put in a difficult position here, since it’s obvious the West will continue to stir up trouble in a heroic effort to leap with both feet right on the tines! While any overt action by Russia will be broadcast wildly as “aggression,” etc. it seems the NED funded operations go full tilt.
Maybe they’ll just run out of money?
From Colonel Cassad Telegram channel just a little while ago and put through deepl translator.
Partial legitimization of Lukashenko
President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko had a telephone conversation with Acting German Chancellor Angela Merkel, as agreed earlier. The press service of the Belarusian leader informed this to BELTA.
“As you know, the conversation concerned the situation on the border between Belarus and the countries of the European Union. Having discussed the problem of refugees in detail, the parties came to a certain understanding of how to act and move forward in solving the existing issues. The President of Belarus and the German Chancellor a.i. agreed that the problem as a whole would be taken up at the level of Belarus and the EU, with the respective officials to be appointed by both sides to immediately enter into negotiations in order to resolve the existing problems. The desire of refugees to come to Germany will be solved in the same context,” said the press service.
During the conversation with the acting German chancellor the President of Belarus was also informed about the request of the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen concerning the obligatory participation of the international organizations, dealing with the problem of the refugees and the migrants, which are already actively cooperating with the Belarusian party.
Alexander Lukashenko and Angela Merkel also reached an agreement on contacts in the future.
https://www.belta.by/president/view/itogi-razgovora-lukashenko-s-merkel-problema-bezhentsev-vynositsja-na-uroven-belarusi-i-es-470126-2021/ – zinc
All in all, Lukashenko can record a victory for himself on points.
He forced him to talk to himself, he also forced him to admit partially, all the more so because Russia demonstratively ignored the proposals to act as a mediator and sent Europeans to talk directly to Batiika, which Europe did not want to do. But it had to. Moreover, the second conversation with Lukashenko was coordinated at the level of the EU leadership.
Europe can pay lip service to the illegitimacy of the Belarusian authorities, but when it is against the wall, it is quite legitimate to negotiate with these very “illegitimate authorities”. Although, of course, the official statements in the EU will now say that “this is different” and “this is not what you think”.
Of course, they have not forgotten about the refugees’ wish to go to Germany, where Merkel once invited them. It is also worth noting that Lukashenko receives requests from the head of the European Commission through Merkel.
On the whole, the calls from Merkel seriously undermined the policy of non-recognition of Lukashenko. For sure, she will get in trouble in Germany (and not only) for this (however, Grandma is old, Grandma is retiring soon, Grandma does not care anymore).
Thus, the line with migrants more than successfully works. “Deutsche Welle” has already changed its shoes and together with “falsified elections in Belarus” began to write https://www.dw.com/pl/rz%C4%85d-niemiec-broni-telefonu-merkel-do-%C5%82ukaszenki/a-59847070?maca=pl-Twitter-sharing “ambiguous elections”.
I love the smell of butt-hurt in the morning. It smells of …….. losers.
The cover of December’s issue of the Atlantic features an article by Anne Applebaum (aka Mrs Poland) – “The Bad Guys Are winning: How a new league of autocrats is outsmarting the West”
The cover is a pathetic rip-off of Reservoir Dogs
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEQVm_oXMAoxJ4D.jpg
But wait, there are only Five. Where is the Sixth? Where is Khamenei? If he is not available, how about Nasrallah? Too busy as well? Maybe their inclusion would be a little too much of a giveaway.
The guys on the cover could also be seen as a nasty jab against Western feminism: ’How a new league of non-Western male chauvinist pigs are outsmarting Anne Applebaum, Angela Merkel, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, Hillary Clinton, and Nancy Pelosi’.
Q: Who is the guy to the left of Lukashenko? Looks familiar but his country and his name escape me.
Problem solved — I had my mind locked up in the context of Eurasia. It’s Venezuela’s Maduro, sorry.
Alexander Dugin has an interesting article on these matters and is not certain a war will break out ,although there is plenty of reasons why it might break out at any minute. https://katehon.com/en/article/if-tomorrow-there-no-war
The issue really is whether any of the Soviet republics can be viable as an independent state. It doesn’t look like it. In fact, none of the smaller European countries function as independent states either and they tripped over themselves to join NATO and the EU. The world is changing. Too bad the Soviet leadership didn’t understand this and apparently still doesn’t. These ‘countries’ will find their home either with the West or the East. It has nothing to do with Lukashenko’s qualities
I am pleased to see that the UK left’s Stop the War Coalition (set up in 2001 to opposes the US war on Afghanistan, then later Iraq, Libya, Syria etc.) has adopted a position of opposition to Poland’s repression of the migrants and ‘Fortress Europe’.
‘Fortress Europe’ is the idea that while the EU is happy to support imperial wars, it is not willing to deal with the human consequences of its wars in the form of refugees fleeing the battlefields. The EU is not only unwilling to give sanctuary to those refugees but, like Poland today, violently represses them. See:
https://www.facebook.com/events/3830353647067290/
“Emergency protest: solidarity with refugees, no to fortress Europe.
Thousands of refugees on the Polish and Belarussian border are being tear gassed, assaulted and beaten by police.
These are people fleeing war, poverty and climate change. We say they are welcome in Britain and Europe, and we oppose the border fences of the EU and Britain.
Join us at the Polish embassy on Saturday. Supported by Polish migrants for change, International Council of Polish Women, Amnesty International UK Europe, Stop the War, Care4Calais Calais, CND.”
Is Belarus the only country not going along with covidcon? The dictatorship is the last free country on Earth. Irony at its best
Bravo. Well thought out and indeed, the “Occam’s Razor” solution to this unneeded tempest in a teapot tinpot. To have to deal with both Erdogan and Lukashenko as loose cannons at such disparate strategic geopolitical locations is insufferable to a cohesive strategy for Mr Putin and the rest of the Federation’s top leadership. Two dogs barking all night at different sides of the house. Nobody gets any sleep.
President Lukashenko in a recent fantastic interview with the BBC that just as the European Union did not involve the abolition of the British monarchy or the position of the prime minister, the Russia-Belarus union need not annul the positions of either the presidency of Russia or of Belarus.
Significantly, it should be added that Putin and Lukashenko in many ways complement each other for the common good of the union.
Finally, it would make sense for Russian forces to capture all the way to Transdniestr to great a territorial continuum.
Interview can be viewed here. I think a lot can be learned from this interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArWeoIK3Idc
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