2016/05/31 13:00:01
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Where are the Saker Podcasts any more? I look forward to podcasts, but they are few and far between.
I like the short podcasts.
And I like the hour plus podcasts. I suspect he’s busy — it’s amazing how well this place still functions with the thousands of new readers it gets every day (look at page hits, take the Russian Warning, 25K in two days!), I miss the old days around here too but look, audio-wise, there’s enough to fill a few double LP’s and I point friends in that direction every day. Volunteer Internet Army? Multi-cultural, but based in the United States? And able to withstand bots and trolls (see IMO below) with nothing more than wit and (in all senses) moderation? God bless the Saker and allies for starting something unique and crucial!
Cafe: how about some video/audio to make even the biggest misanthrope tear up? Video from Victory Day 2015 in Moscow — I was riveted from beginning to end. Filmed beautifully, you can tell everyone was super-proud to be there. How hopelessly out of touch we are over here. Our Memorial Day is lucky to get a fly-over in an AFB town.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYLdQa-4M3o
I think the three signers of the latest Russia Warning post would make a great podcast, hint hint… :)
whoops, typo, above I meant Victory Day 2016, which makes it even more crucial.
I can underline everything you said.
Scott
https://slavyangrad.org/2016/05/30/merkel-and-the-mejlis/
recent article re rapprochement links germany and medjlis………….eg extract “An authoritative German foreign policy web-portal has published an analytical report dedicated to the rapprochement between Berlin and the Crimean Tatars, and came to the conclusion that the German Federal Chancellery is expanding its anti-Russian front.
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Despite all of this, Berlin is continuing to invest in contacts with the Crimean Tatars. At the end of April the Ukrainian Embassy in Germany reported that “Refat Chubarov took part in the event organised by the German Foreign Policy Network (DGAP) [Deutsche Gesellshaft für Auswärtige Politik eV ―trans.], where he exchanged views with politicians and diplomats of the German Foreign Ministry.” Following these meetings the Federal Government Commissioner for Human Rights Policy and Humanitarian Aid, Bärbel Kofler, made a statement to the media in support of the Crimean Tatars. The Ukrainian Embassy in Berlin interpreted this as “the first direct echo” of Chubarov’s talks with German diplomats. However, it has not been reported what exactly was the subject of the talks between the leader of the Mejlis and Berlin officials.”
To be “fair” to the German regime. They had such “great” relations with the Crimean Tatars in the past (say 75 years ago). That they just want to “build” on their “old friendships”.
From the what I’ve seen of Ms. Kofler, she is a supreme puppet for the US. (eg expressing alarm about death penalty in Iran, providing support to future NATO member, Finland.) So I don’t think we should be at all shocked that she also expresses support the Mejils.
Steinmeier posts these updates from her on his Twitter account which I find amusing. She seems not to answer to him at all, and might even be anti-German govt in her policies. Lately I’ve wondered if he’s leaving some sort of public ‘breadcrumb’ trail on this account. I hope so – maybe we’ll get a clearer picture if what the heck is up in the govt of Deutschland. :-)
South Front shows the treacherous double game the Turks play using the different Islamist groups. So one Nato {Turkey/Isis/al Nusra)member is sabotaging the other ( US/SDF forces)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7N-CNPRjN8
Please help me understand. Questions to all of you.
– I will admit to it: Sometimes I am a bit puzzled.
I have been following this blog, among other news sources, for quite a while now. Considering my “Western” background, I guess you could call me reasonably well informed regarding Russian politics.
My affinity to Russia: First and foremost, I am a pronounced admirer of Russian culture, its values, traditions, and its language.
But I also appreciate the sharp intellect of the likes of Dugin, Fedorov, Starikov, Glazyev, Fursov. Last not least, I have been regularly impressed with VVP’s speeches, his obvious intellectual capabilities, directness, his lack of pompousness. When I hear him talk I always feel that he is right, that he takes other people seriously, that he cares for his country – in short, that he is what we would want our own political authorities to be like, but would never dare to hope for.
Yet… there are things which I don’t understand. What’s more, the things-which-I-don’t-understand-about-Russian-politics keep popping up. For example:.
1. Syrian conflict. So, Russia conducted a military operation there. Which apparently was en route to success, as was convincingly documented on this blog by the Saker. Then, suddenly the Russian president announced that Russia’s goals were achieved and that it would pull out the bulk of it’s forces. Even if this announcement was partly a tactical manoeuvre (as was also argued on this blog), it now looks as if Russia actually did significantly cut back on its military involvement. (Am I getting something wrong?)
My question: Why? I mean, it’s perfectly obvious that the Syrian conflict is not over, and it’s equally obvious that the Americans right now are getting more and more brazen after Russia’s partial withdrawal. (Again, am I wrong?)
My point is, wasn’t this development to be expected? Doesn’t Russia risk losing what it had already gained? America made it clear from the beginning that it will not cooperate with Russia in Syria. It is equally clear that America has it’s own interests which run contrary to Russia’s interests. So why keeps Russia acting as if there could be a joined modus operandi? Why do they keep asking the Americans to cooperate with them – if they know perfectly well that these proposals will be turned down or ignored?
A few days ago I read that some high Russian official (military, I believe) urged that the Russian involvement in Syria must be stepped up if it is to be successful…
How does all this make any sense? I just don’t get it. I am personally certainly not a warmonger. Even the thought of military action makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. Nevertheless, I’m asking myself: Why did Russia end/reduce its operation at that time? Doesn’t this look like sabotaging one’s own efforts? As a non-military person, maybe I don’t grasp the tactics which is at work here? Please help me understand.
2. Another example: MH 17. From day one Russia was accused by the “international community” of being the culprit. The campaign to paint Russia as the culprit has been very successful, at least in the West. To this day Western news / politicians keep bringing up the subject to remind everybody how evil the Russkies are. To this day Russian news / politicians keep complaining about the unfair accusations of the West.
So, my question: If Russia cares for the opinion of the West, then why doesn’t it do something to defend itself? Why? After all, it can’t be that difficult.
I remember having read (on this blog, if I am not mistaken) the following: Both sides (Americans as well as Russians) must have known right from the beginning what really happened, because of their satellite data – pictures, whatever. It was also argued that the Russians certainly have even more information, as the events took place in their direct neighbourhood. Sounded plausible to me… After all, what do they have their satellites for, and radar stations and all that?
Well, if the Russians have satellite images and radar data – then what the heck keeps them from publishing them? Of course, the Americans won’t publish theirs if they don’t prove their version. But why, after all these persistent accusations, sanctions etc., don’t the Russians do it to prove their version? Why? I mean, in this case it can’t be because they are afraid of embarrassing their American Partners, can it?
I also remember that in the days after the downing of MH 17 some of the Novorussian “rebels” found the flight recorders (“black boxes”). They announced to send them to Moscow to have them analysed. Sounds like a good idea? Not to Moscow. They refused. Moscow refused!
Why? I just don’t get it. Please help me understand. Has it something to do with the Russian psyche? Is there some collective tendency towards self-punishment – or what is it?
– The examples of Syria and MH17 are just two of the most glaring ones. There is of course more of Russia’s puzzling conduct, but for now I will leave it at that.
In case this post might sound cynical to you: It is not. I am truly baffled by these things as they don’t seem explainable in a logical way to me.
If you decide to answer: Thank you for your input. –
PS: Oh, and just in case… removed. No need to provoke.Mod
gvp, I don’t know the specific answers to your questions and I doubt most regular commenters here do, either.
Others, even Saker may know in much detail, or not know, but lacking a non-public Kremlin briefing, and realizing that their knowledge is incomplete, refuse to speculate on the part that they don’t know in detail or aren’t sure enough of yet.
None of this bothers me, and I suggest it shouldn’t bother you either.
IMHO, we should act on what we do understand and know, with confidence, as our priority and then secondarily, work each day on getting more information and understanding more principles that may be at work, to raise our intelligence, both in the political intelligence, factual knowledge meaning of the word, and also in terms of grasp of fundamental principles, in order to speak or act with better effect in subsequent days.
There is a tendency in a lot of things, among students of those things, to study perpetually, seeking perfection of objective knowledge, before “graduating” and getting a job, and applying some of that knowledge, if they are lucky.
I’m not saying you are doing that, because by making your first comment here, you are “speaking”, which is a form of action.
But I will say that what your comment suggests to me is a common phenomenon of our culture, which you have taken a step to emerge from, but your comment still reminded me of: The tendency of us westerners who hate what our governments are doing to hope and pray and watch and wait to see what Russia (as the most visible, stubborn, and potent resistance) and VV Putin, personally are going to do next. Granted, that is, without a doubt, the most promising lever with which things will be moved to block the NWO dominators from locking this planet down in a world wide prison cell.
However, for my part, I don’t worry about second -guessing that country or that man, as both have already proven their mettle, despite some impatient sorts here and there who gripe about them “not finishing the job!” yet.
My attitude is more along the lines on what you or I could be doing here on this site or out there in our own areas and lives to advance our consciousness and that of those who we might affect, whether its 5 people, 500 people, or thousands of people.
I wouldn’t worry about Vladimir Putin, as long as his security does a top notch job.
I’d worry about the cluelessness of the westerners around you and I that are in a fantasy world of ignorance and denial, and are allowing their governments to stumble towards world war, through their apathy, ignorance and support of psychopathic dominators that could get us all killed.
From your post, it seems to me that speaking to the wakeable among those zombies around you is what you know enough to do, even without knowing the answers to the questions you have just asked here. If someone answers you in the detail you hope for, I am listening also, but in the meantime, I am speaking or doing what I can, to close to the limit of my modest capacities, to try to help the cause of truth, love and freedom without waiting for either Russia or Putin to do more, before I do more.
Cheers!.
Excuse my links.Library computers are somewhat problematic. Paste and copy to your browser will get you there.The first link was to Mark Passio’s complete podcasts.The second was follow the Nazis post WW2. A very hysterical situation developed in their South Pole base established during the war.Enjoy. ( youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw )
Just FYI:
Related to stories of a German base in Antarctica — “HITLER’S ANTARCTIC BASE: THE MYTH AND THE REALITY ”
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/49/49783_.pdf
Some research suggestions. Two words; Hegelian dialectic.He’s one of THEM (vimeo.com/27092403 ) ;-). Fact: MH17 went to Diego Garcia.EA 804,first stop israel to remove the main geologist who was working on the Egyptian gold mind( 2177243 kilograms est.).The psychopaths of the world are not going to let any nation have that much gold.Of course,they are excepted.
.gvp. I have some sympathy for your puzzlement. So I recently reread the Saker comments from March 14 2016 Analysis of Russian pull out from Syria. Which to me makes sense. Bro Anon gives good council too for those brave enough to swim against the stream of double plus good thinking so in evidence right now.
Hi •gvp• on May 31, 2016 · at 4:53 pm UTC,
I’m 100% with you, and the names you listed are also my heros.
The questions I asked go into that direction (you certainly saw my recent posts).
Don’t think you are the only one wondering …
Hi •gvp•,
Anonymous on May 31, 2016 · at 10:57 pm UTC
That was sent by me (name is missing for some reason)
*gvp*,
I too am seriously concerned with Russia’s inconsistency. Let’s push the logic to its shocking conclusion.
9/11. Surely Putin and his security know what really happened. An inside job for sure and who the jobbers were. If they don’t, they need to resign because they’re endangering the whole country.
To be consistent, Putin (or one of the leakers, high up) should state unequivocally who did it. It would nail the bastards to the wall. Why does he not do what would help “stop the war on Russia”? In fact, it might accelerate WW111. So what?
I think the real reason is the stupidity of the general population of Russians when it comes to truth that hurts. There is massive denial for good reason. And as we well know, one in public office anywhere or the higher-ups in any institution cannot tell the truth about 9/11, and keep their status. It’s a life threatening part of the information war.
I don’t have much to lose, so at my website, thelovegovernment.com, I’ve got a whole section on 9/11 where I say clearly that 9/11 in an inside job. I believe the Saker does too.
In Roman times, the empire demanded people support the reigning lie, or lie in a grave. The same thing holds today but the grave is more shallow.
Putin’s Russia is an empire too, but a more benign one. Takes fire to fight fire sometimes. Putin is an ex-spy, some say a spy for the empire who wanted to kill him; so he had no choice but to go back on his contract.
It’s brutal out there, and lying is part of survival. It’s a game where one false move can spell disaster for a whole nation. Russia may see that she has to play along until all the bets are called in, if they ever are.
Russia is determined not to lose. If a killer says “tell me the truth” or your family dies, what would you do? That’s the position Russia is in. What Russ does after she wins this thing, is the thing. Will she be ineluctably corrupted by the war and lying, or can she tell the truth about 9/11 and other matters?
In the information war, 9/11 is the test of truth. It separates the sheep from the goats and the wheat from the chaff. One of his disciples asked She’sus why he kept talking to those who didn’t want to hear what he said. Jesus said: I have a job to do, and if no human accepts the truth, the stones will. We are pretty much stone-hearted these days, way more cowardly and stupid than our ancestors from the stone age.
Still, I am disturbed by Russia as much as she inspires hope. Why doesn’t the patriarch of Russia tell the truth about 9/11? He’s supposed to have Jesus’ back. I guess when you’re under attack, who can do like Jesus? I guess we’ll never know until the war comes home to us personally.
@ everybody: Thank you very much for your responses. I didn’t expect so many answers. It’s highly appreciated.
@ Brother Anon: Thank you. This is almost a philosophical treaty! Unfortunately, I don’t have the time to answer your post the way it would deserve it. Let me just say that I agree with you on a lot of things. And let me add one or two remarks in response to your words:
“I wouldn’t worry about Vladimir Putin, as long as his security does a top notch job.” – I don’t know if we should be worried about Mr. Putin’s personal wellbeing. He is certainly aware that his life is in danger at all times, and he knows what to do about it. From what I understand, some of the Russian politicians from the “patriotic” side – for instance Evgeny Fedorov – are far more worried about something else: that his (Putins) suggestions/ orders/ decrees are regularly being sabotaged/ ignored/ procrastinated from within the government. This is the well-known problem of the “5th column” (Atlanticists, pro-Westerns, whatever you want to call them). Some people suggested that a purge of the 5th column in the government was/is imminent. However, their hope did not (yet) materialise.
“There is a tendency in a lot of things, among students of those things, to study perpetually, seeking perfection of objective knowledge…” – Very interesting words. Indeed, I admit I do have the tendency to “seek perfection”, which is not always a good thing, by the way. But I am certainly not seeking perfection in my knowledge about Russian politics!
@ las vegas: I’m not sure if you are actually referring to my post. Thanks anyway for the link. I will watch the video later, so far I only read the title. As it’s always good to compare different points of view, maybe you’d be interested in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imf2veF6Q7Y. Mr Fursov tells us how rocket scientist W. v. Braun gave his assistant some sensitive information before his death. He had knowledge of the fact, that certain influential circles were perpetually seeking to make up horror scenarios with which they intended to better manipulate the populace. The things he mentioned: 1. Russia, 2. Islam, 3. terrorism, 4. an asteroid, 5. attacking aliens. It’s only a short video, 5min. Have fun!
@ Badger: Thank you. Yes, I have read all of the Saker’s analyses of the last 3 years or so, including the one you mentioned. Actually, of the 2 examples I gave, the problem of MH17 is the one which I find much more intriguing than the Syrian conflict (which is extremely complex – things keep changing, and I certainly do not have enough information and understanding of military matters to give a competent assessment.)
@ Anonymous at 4:53 pm UTC: Thank you. Yes, it’s perfectly possible that I read your posts. Of course you are not the only Anonymous, so I don’t really know what posts you are talking about. But it’s certainly good to know that others have similar lines of thought! :) Cheers.
@ Martin from Soviet East-Berlin: Hi there. Things can get complicated on the internet with time zones and that. I don’t see an “anonymous” post at 10.57 pm UTC, only the one at 4:53 pm UTC which I answered in the lines above. Anyway, nice to see you :)
@ Dennis Leary: Thank you for your elaborate answer. Maybe you know more about Russia than I do. For example, I can’t talk from experience about the “stupidity of the general population of Russians”. I do know some Russian people but I guess they are not the sort of average Russians who you probably refer to.
In general I would say your ideas sound slightly more radical than mine… You “would nail the bastards to the wall”, which is something which I would be much too shy for!
Actually, I am not really “concerned about Russia’s inconsistency”. I don’t even know if I would call it inconsistency. As I stated in another post, I am very much aware of the fact that we only know a tiny fragment of the “truth”, meaning all the facts. We just don’t have access to the necessary information. Other people, powerful people like politicians, they know more. But they don’t tell what they know. They lie.
Sometimes ex-politicians start telling the real truth when they are old. (One example is a German ex-minister of research called Andreas Bülow; he talks about 9/11, among other things. He gives us a glimpse of the kind of stuff these people know – quite amazing).
I am just guessing when I am saying that VV Putin is maybe on of a handful of really well informed persons in the world. He must have access to a lot, I mean really a lot of information. And maybe he does not lie, or not as much as other politicians do (I would certainly hope so), but that does not mean he is sharing his information with the public.
One thing is for sure: nothing happens without a reason. Even a man as powerful as VVP cannot always make the decisions that he wants to make. Most of the time he makes the decisions that he has to make.
That is why I would be very restrained to criticise him, even if he takes a decision that seems inexplicable. Please forgive me for saying so but in my eyes it’s kind of naive to say: “Putin should do this, Putin must do that”. Let’s be honest, we don’t know shit.
I wonder why you think that of all persons the Patriarch of Moscow should tell the truth about 9/11?
But I did enjoy your revolutionary impetus, and I like the poetic words of “Russia … inspires hope”.
@ Moderator: I must admit I was a little irritated that you censored my post. But actually I believe you made the right decision :)
I am not an expert, but I will make an attempt to answer you. Russia has published satellite pictures and radar images of MH17. Important Russian investigations have been made, but the Dutch are not interested in them. This is one of the reasons why Russia and Malaysia together will evaluate the second Dutch report in october this year no matter what Kiev says. Washington has at last delivered US satellite images recently, but they are not made public.
One problem is that Russia has delivered radar data, but not raw data. Interpret that as you wish. Raw data is not always saved, but in this case it may have been saved and can explode when we get the second Dutch report in october. That report will say who is guilty.
You should know Ukraine says no civil and military radars where active that fateful day. There was war in the country and no radar was active? Who believes it’?
I am also a Westerner, but I live in the North of Europe and have visited Russia. There I saw a peoples culture I recognize from my youth. I understand how Russians think. They are pragmatic. They work on several fronts at once and that puzzles Westerners, who think one problem at a time should be solved. I think not. Putin thinks of his country, foreign policy, the economy, sanctions and much more. Russia needs a couple of more years to come back and I can assure you it will happen if Putin is successful in his foreign policy.
The war in Syria was financed from the military exercise budget. It produced much more information than an exercise. Small problems were found and they are now being dealt with. Russias only cost was some other exercise was cancelled and the “profit” is huge. Putin said from the beginning Russia would not stay long in Syria and he kept his word. He thinks of Russia first of all and he is right. He builds up his country in these difficult times. To understand him you need to study some European Kings, preferably in Russia and in the rest of the North. Countries that never completely became continental. The UK is another case in point, but not if you want to understand Russia.
Anonymous, your post offers more facts than speculation which I appreciate. Thank you. I have read most of these things before, yet it’s good to be reminded of one or the other.
– Concerning Syria: If we assume that Russia’s main objective was to test it’s own capabilities as well as getting a gratis advertising platform for the quality of it’s weapon systems – and only to a lesser degree the situation in Syria itself – then your argument is certainly convincing. But then of course Russia’s main goal in Syria was not what it said it was…
– Concerning MH17: I remember having seen a short time-lapse video clip which was apparently made up of a series of satellite images. It showed the launch and flight path of a missile, purportedly the one that hit MH17. There were no coordinates but a description of where in the Ukraine this had happened. The recording did not show the impact. I have no idea if this clip was authentic. Yet seeing this clip, it seemed reasonable to expect that the Russians have a complete “recording” of the missile or the fighter jet – whatever downed the Boeing – and the destruction of the plane itself.
Maybe this notion is too naive. Anyway, I have heard many times that the quality of military satellite images nowadays is incredibly detailed. Plus, Russia was certainly interested in what was going in that specific area. After all, this was exactly the region where the combat operations took place, next to their border. They must have concentrated their intelligence efforts there… Shouldn’t we expect they have much better material than what we have been shown? I mean, first hand, indisputable material, not the kind of investigation presented by the Russian Union of engineers?
I never believed the rebels shot down MH17, because it makes no sense. The truth always makes sense. When I thought about that, an idea came to my mind.
There is one thing that would actually explain Russia’s half-hearted efforts of defending itself. That would be, that the Russians themselves are not too interested in proving what really happened. What could be the reason for that?
Several people have suggested that for president Putin the sanctions were exactly what he needed. Enforcing a greater independence of imports, whether in the agrarian sector, weapons systems, software, reducing foreign loans of Russian businesses, etc. etc. All this would have been completely impossible, if not for the sanctions. Think of the Mistrals. Russia did absolutely nothing to save the deal. On the contrary, they always sounded as if they were quite pleased with that solution, didn’t they?
If Russia would prove beyond any doubts that it did not down MH17, this would deprive the Americans of the official reason for the sanctions. But Russia might not want the sanctions to end soon. I am not saying this must be the truth. It’s just an idea, and maybe it’s a far-fetched one. –
mr. gvp.
I saw your first post, piously requesting guidance and answers to questions. I didn’t bother to answer. I thought – “why is this person seeking answers that he can easily find for himself?”
I wasn’t too impressed with the few answers but again, I couldn’t be bothered to answer you.
But this last – this I must.
You are, I see, finally coming out of your ersatz shell.
When I read the cringingly smarmy final lines of your post, you are, very clearly, accusing President Putin of ordering the downing of a passenger jet carrying innocent lives, including children. In other words, of being a cold blooded psychopathic murderer.
Please tell what, in his lifelong history, most of which is readily available, gives rise to such a suspicion? In fact, for those of us who have actually studied this man, read his own words, listened to his every public interaction and speech, he is the diametric opposite; a spiritual, deeply compassionate man wholly driven by his integrity and high personal values.
Your entire post is full of fallacies and inaccuracies.
To start with. Russia made it’s satellite imagery available. Do you know something? I’ve seen it. You can too, if you go look. It shows that there were NO BUK capable missile launchers in the region of Donbass. None.
However, you are correct that there were satellite imagery NOT made available to the public. That would be America, which has more than one satellite covering the area. Russia has, several times, requested that these be made available. Do you know something?. America didn’t refuse, It just didn’t have the courtesy or intestinal fortitude to answer.
The Ukrainian Secret Service confiscated the tower tapes from Kiev. They refuse to release them. America, which controls Kiev, could get them in a heartbeat. They don’t.
The Black Box, when recovered, was not given to Malaysia, who had the greatest right to it, but to a NATO/US vassal, Holland. Then, all the complicit countries, Ukraine, Holland, Australia, signed a deal that the results would not be released if even one country refused permission. Guess what has happened?.
Now – all this is freely available to find, online.
I would add, the onus of proof is NOT on the accused, in case Russia, but on the accuser, NATO America and its vassals. And they have come with?? – zilch. Nada. None.
You cannot prove a negative, and Russia cannot Prove by this criteria that it wasn’t her. But as I said, the onus of proof is not on her.
Finally – you say “But then of course Russia’s main goal in Syria was not what it said it was…”
Well, I followed the Syria interlude from woe to go. And everything fitted just as Putin said they were doing. so – perhaps you can tell us exactly what Russia’s main goal was, since you seem to know, and we dont?
It is my considered opinion that there is something decidedly “fishy” about you, sir.
Have you ever heard of the English author, Charles Dickens?? He penned a character you put me very much in mind. Uriah Heep. You might go look him up, too.
Uriah Heep:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Uriah_Heep_from_David_Copperfield_art_by_Frank_Reynolds.jpg
@ Isabella
“But then of course Russia’s main goal in Syria was not what it said it was…” is hypothetical and refers to “If we assume that Russia’s main objective was …” It is not my actual opinion.
Also, I have no idea what makes you think that I am “very clearly, accusing President Putin of ordering the downing of a passenger jet”.
Very clearly, you did not actually read my original post. If you had done so, and had read what I wrote about Mr. Putin, you would have realized that something can’t be right with your deductions.
As for your comments about me personally, it seems to me they are very telling – about your own character.
My advice to you: Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
Looks like the cafe has hit the street. Hit the road, Jack, and don’t you come back, no more, no more no more.
I’ve got to hit the street myself. Want to cafexit to the last one cup cafe and see what I missed in my latest insular mood first. But even prior, I’ve got to deal with the mean mansanto machine that wants to spray poison on my ex’s potted avocado tree, while she’s gone to her walden cabin in the north country fair.
“Well, I had to go down and see a guy named Mr. Goldsmith
A nasty, dirty, double-crossin’, backstabbin phony I didn’t wanna have to be dealin’ with
But I did it for you and all you gave me was a smile
Well, I cried for you — now it’s your turn to cry awhile”
Man, I hate it out on the street; so much more lovey-dovey in the old cafe. Per the Saker alligator allegory above: love ya all. See ya later, alligator; give a smile, crocodile.
@ Dennis I see you are doing community elder work in defense of the humble avocado tree. One of my teachers, of blessed memory, said that the highest spiritual work is to do what has been placed before you with intention as an offering of Truth and Compassion.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=may+you+stay+forever+young&view=detail&mid=05159FA3A6FA0B8BCB6805159FA3A6FA0B8BCB68&FORM=VIRE
Thanks. I was older then; I’m younger than that now.
I called to opt out and talked to a young lady who was courteous and clear. Reminded me that there are gems in the imperial rough. Turns out they’re only poisoning citrus trees and not avocados. I put a “do not spray” sign up just in case.
Interesting speech from Lavrov today about Russia/China relations:
http://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/2297742
Paul Craig Roberts tells it like it is in discussing how the EU was set up as a CIA project. ” The EU is based in deceit”
http://themindrenewed.com/interviews/2016/885-int109
It seems to be cold out there, the people feel better in the Cafe. The war is going on, but is not so hot yet, where is the mood ? Some verses anybody ? some good love parade ? revolution in France, before the European Football Championship, or during that ? what are the chances ? meeting of wise men/women in Dresda, meanwhile meeting of the NATO in Warshaw talking of war – show ? or the Brexit in the same June. Or, what could be the new ideology for Russia ? we know everything or we know nothing ? today is first of June, the day of kids worldwide.
I just finished catching up at the last one cup cafe of 100 comments even. I’ll comment on the comments for self-edification. I’ll call this cafe the two women on the street issue, where one woman is touching the other on the hand. There are other interesting items in the scene, like the dark woman to the side, the man in the back whose eyes look like they’re on a rabbit hunt, and the two girls in the front. I’m a double sag, one womam and one man, so I’m naturally drawn to the fairer sex. Yes, indeed, as a womam here said to me, she says: higher love is about to transport you big time; and surges of energy, automatic writing and pioneer energy to boot. “Hang onto me, baby, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.” Dylan Bachman Turner Overdrive. Not to fear; tomorrow I might feel so depressed I can’t get out of bed. My fail-safe is that I can blame it all on you, for without you I’d be dead in my head and no big deal either in bed.
The same womam, whose name contains terra-earth, nam-name and the moon cycle gifted us with Forever Young. Vineyards never die; they’re eternally young. I heard it on the grapevine.
Yes, Bro Anon, I did catch the foggy dew on my windshield; and I much prefer the poem to the song for its language rhythm hymn hum. ioan’s comment still makes me wonder if io…. is a womam like the mortal lover of Zeus-Jesus-ee-a-zeus.
And Bro, thanks for sharing about the metal rods you must endure. I have a titanium rod in my leg but it is relatively painless. Your long comment deserves attention. You bring up issues that remind me of playing hot potato; too hot to touch. You’re a brave man, sharing here and enduring there. If I were you, I would never touch the Quigley hot wire which must still sting. I think Quigley was way wrong and wrote with evil intent. Whatever your reason, I think it was a mistake to bring him in here and he deserves to be shot down. I learned from your experience not to get caught in a crossfire unless it’s a decoy for a higher win, which you adroitly confessed to.
The role of religious leaders in mind control is another hot potato, which I pass on quickly lest I quigley out. And new age mind control is yet another religion. Oh man, are you a glutton for punishment, or just a lightning rod for enlightenment?
You just can’t quit, bringing up the masculine and feminine brains, in man and womam. The origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind by Julian Jaynes still sticks in my brain. The whole right side is now virtually empty whereas before it was loaded to the brim, way more than kim. 75,000 years of patriarchies have done their dirty work. I’ve got to look into this Pushkin fellow to see if I can catch up. Yes, Know the Truth at all costs.
I agree that new age philosophy is poisoned sugar but the old age philosophy was its founding paradigm. “Take the Age Old forms of right brain control…and repackage it as ‘New Age Wisdom…into right brain imbalance'” is “uncomfortable” so we “need to meditate.”
I must defer to ioan here, who as I noted is some kind of i(j)oan of Ark. Reminds me of my then 17 year old son who tried public high school because he wanted to see what it was like. After a week I asked him what he learned. He said he learned that the teachers hated the students. He did like swimming and video though but fizzled out gradually on the heavy stuff, and left on good terms. Later, he excelled in college.
kinterra (there’s that terra again) lauded Waldorf, which my son attended in Ireland.
Speaking of terra, teranam 13 posted a link to PCR’s interview with a British chap. This is amazing for its emotional intelligence, and proves to me at least that this equality of the sexes is crap; womam is way more intelligent that man, even with her damaged or missing right rites, thanks to patriarchy.
PCR made a point about insecure parties who want a place at the table, like Britain. You can extend that analogy to Russia’s compulsion now to sit at the table with the big boys of commerce and finance. Mark my word, it is the trojan horse that will burn her butt, but maybe she’ll learn yet how not to burn.
I left off at Martin from the east with his analysis of old English for “son.” I wish he’d do the same for “gott,” but it might be too hot a potato for even him to handle. Pass it to me. I’ve gott my oven gloves on. Gott to go and dream away the time. Now I lay me down to sleep. See you in my dreams deep.
Dennis, those look like hot chestnuts to me.
And the war warnings are getting even hotter.
Don’t worry about me and hot kitchens. I predict you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Adults can’t worry about childish fits that miss the point, and if one or two other adults and a child or two get the point, I’m good for another couple of back to back shifts over a hot stove, no matter how many thousands the drama queens sway.
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Got to catch up with that Las Vegas guy
And tell him that going out with a smile
On your lips and the middle finger to evil
Is a fine and right proper way to live and die.
Then I’d like to talk to that guy that hopes the UFOs will swoop down and save us. Why should they, if we don’t get serious, and clean up our act? It’s kind of like if Putin was the advanced alien, and we were Libya, not Syria
Libya, where the old tribal problems had not been overcome enough, and they couldn’t save themselves, and Russia wouldn’t risk trying.
Syria has been a different story, and shows that there is hope, and tragic patterns can be overcome, and the good, long fought valiant lone effort merits the help of a friend from the north.
G’night.
Hi, Bro Anon,
Just for amusement when you woke up :
UFO’s coming ! said that guy
Is that real ? tell me why ?
They’re coming to clean it up.
How should they? with a cup ?
If we don’t get serious
Cleaning up the self made shit,
It will be Hillary-ous
For UFO’s to sneak on it…
‘Hillary-ous’
Why didn’t I think of that?
Just brilliant :)
Dennis.
“I must defer to ioan here, who as I noted is some kind of i(j)oan of Ark. Reminds me of my then 17 year old son who tried public high school because he wanted to see what it was like. After a week I asked him what he learned. He said he learned that the teachers hated the students.”
– probably I have some mind problems but I don’t understand your assumption. The comment regarding the school and education system described there has not been finished and probably it will not, for a while because only those who were in, or are in, know what it is and how it works.
Carpe Diem.
Well, here’s an interview with Lavrov from May 31. He is asked some very direct questions: why didn’t Russia send in troops to save Ukrainians from the gang of thugs who seized power? Why didn’t Russia use more ‘soft’ power moves to win support in Ukraine before the coup?
http://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/2298019
To highlight a couple key quotes from Lavrov (defender of calm communication and steadfast diplomacy to heal wounds) from the above interview:
“Our peaceful neighbours from Eastern Europe should also keep this in mind. We are issuing calm warning messages that we will take retaliatory steps if NATO military infrastructure moves closer to our borders. They tend to forget about this and blame Russia.”
“Let me repeat that it is necessary to be friends and have good relations with everyone. That is our principle. … However, in promoting this policy we should remember that our main allies are still the Army, the Navy and now also the Aerospace Forces.”
Not spoken by Putin the Thug, or Head of the Military Shoigu, or another military leader. Not spoken by just any diplomat or ambassador. These words come from Russia’s top diplomat.
Brush that aside if you choose.
Another key quote from Lavrov today (during mtg w Russian NGOs) about persecution of journalists:
“We will always be ready to firmly support the relevant actions of journalists’ associations, media associations, with whom we work closely.”
” When one of your colleagues is exposed to something like this, we will always be ready to work together with you to deal with these unacceptable phenomena.”
I think that’s a pretty clear statement.
S113
Because you were so kind and made a very good monolog, I will respond to your posts in the next Cafe with some verses.I can only tell you : “Playing Chess”
That sounds fantastic, ioan! I thought my contributions to the Cafe were too stale and dry, like an old slice of bread. Others’ posts (including yours) are so vibrant, alive and pulsating. It makes me laugh that my ‘old slice of bread’ post inspired you. And i’m happy to hear it. Look forward to your writing!
@ S113
Rest assured your “stale bread” contributions are the nourishing food for thought that keeps us on our toes. Give us more in raw vernacular, with thanks.
@ S113
Lavrov’s statements at times are no more that the proverbial platitudes of naivety. He says that he is convinced that the responsible Western politicians would not allow a war to happen because of the horrors suffered by Europe in two world wars.
Firstly, it should be pointed out to him that the USA did not suffer a skerrick of damage and only came to the war in Europe when the combatants were exhausted to pick up the loot and lord over the destruction.
Secondly, he relies on “responsible’ Western politicians as a guarantee of peace. He should know more than that; he has been hobnobbing with those “responsible politicians” for a long time and it does not require any special acumen to perceive that there is not a single responsible one among them.
Is he deceiving himself or trying to deceive others?
Kim
Hi Kim,
You make a very good point here (as usual!) I have my own theory based on Steinmeier’s recent comments about economic and political pressure being necessary in response to a major threat of full-scale conflict in and around eastern Ukraine. When MSM reported his comments, they added “Russian aggression” to them. But he said nothing about Russian aggression in his remarks. Which made me think he meant US aggression (air strikes maybe?) – so full-scale conflict was avoided because of Merkel and other European leaders using the sanctions.
I think these are the “responsible Western politicians” referred to by Lavrov. As spineless, simpering and doormat-ish as they may behave at times, they seemed to refuse to go to war for the US. Well, on the continent, that is. So, I think Lavrov makes this statement for that reason. He knows now that Germany, France and others will not go to war with Russia, NATO be d*mned.
@ S113
Thanks for the lesson. I wouldn’t make a diplomat.
Kim
Talking about sol, the sun, and son..
Being and feeling part of the great whole of life, sol-dier – the true soldier, of the army of love?
De-sol-ate, I-sol-ation …
https://youtu.be/VRe13aZr8Mg
People say we got it made
Don’t they know we’re so afraid
Isolation
We’re afraid to be alone
Everybody got to have a home
Isolation
Just a boy and a little girl
Trying to change the whole wide world
Isolation
The world is just a little town
Everybody trying to put us down
Isolation
I don’t expect you, to understand
After you caused so much pain
But then again, you’re not to blame
You’re just a human, a victim of the insane
We’re afraid of everyone
Afraid of the sun
Isolation
The sun will never disappear
But the world may not have many years
Isolation
John Lennon
Thanks Anonymous to bring some Sun-light with the poetry of John Lennon in the Cafe-street.
another Lennon song:
http://www.metrolyrics.com/across-the-universe-lyrics-beatles.html
I finished my homework. Don’t miss the comprehensive constellation this week and pray for all of us
considering the red lines, cross-hairs and trigger-points. God may help us – to ascend in life.
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2016/05/5_30.html
Thank you Mundanomaniac for your uplifting and cooling contribution to the conversation that sometimes becomes heated especially between fire signs.
It is the soulability of the Sun/Venus pairing that pulls Saturn’s holding ( the template), Jupiter’s expanding ( the openings) and Neptune’s ( dissolving the strictures) into the Cross of the DaVinci Christ.
We shall dance between power carried versus safety stuck and connection to others versus control over them as the earth shakes, the seas seethe, the air storms until we “get” it. This New Moon period holds much pent up tension. Kyrie Eleison
for Hearts that Beat for Micha el, the fiery Prince of Thought.
At the moment, all the action is at the perfect storm of A Russian Warning, The Beginning of Madness and Putin in Greece. It suits me just fine to come here with the fine red wine of love. Like Putin, I’m beginning to feel tired, tired of it all. But I can’t be swayed by that, even if she’s everything I need and want.
To play off *gvp*, thanks btw, this cafe is where the real revolution is taking place. The “…horror scenarios…to better manipulate the populace” out there are just part of the mass psychology.
“Why should the Patriarch of Moscow tell the truth about 9/11?” Why not? Is it not consistent with his own loverarch?
Now to the sticking point of this revolutionary cafe. I sense a disconnect here in the sexual connection. I am not surprised since it all boils down to sex. With study in my eyes, I feel with my heart that the women here who care about the revolution are in touch with a truth that the men are not. I admit that I am prejudiced by incontestable evidence.
I am operating in a rather twilight-like zone with all the safe zones of anonymity and moderation, but still, I can feel it in the air. There’s panic out there but in here I feel a calmness tinged with excitement. Even if we all go down in the flood of fire that is being self-predicated, I feel well protected. By no stretch of the imagination, do I refer to my stock of cans of oysters, clams and beans. No, I mean by other means.
If I’m not mistaken, the womem know what I mean while the men are caught up in dreams. I know that’s an over-generalization but it also avoids the trap of over-relativization. At base, this is still a war of the sexes as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be until the revolution manifests its ultimate destiny.
The love army awaits. I’m not holding my breath but my breath is quickening with my heartbeat. My hands are sweaty and I haven’t even started yet. Is Putin Pushkin reborn? I’ve got the 3 and the 7 but is the third card the Ace or the Queen of Spades?
That’s what I like about this cafe of the two women on the street where they meet before a mirror. It’s all about love and sex. Sex-love is where it’s at, whether in the flesh or in the virtual mirror. I think I can tell the difference between the Ace and the Queen but that remains uncertain like what’s behind the iron curtain of the war brewing outside.
The irony is that I only know that I know nothing for certain. So I am reduced to love who touches me in person, like womam touches woman before the window-mirror at the door to the lover’s bower in this holy hour.
High noon approaches here and now. The lights may go out tomorrow. With joy and sorrow, I must say the words now or never: I love you, for ever and ever.
It is fine indeed, we succeeded to have a formidable 31 comments to this date. I am desolate.
From my tiny box of brain
Under sounds of heavy rain,
Grow the verses like the grain.
Now I feel them as a pain…
Maybe morning or the next
We shall have another text
In the hurry of the war
We shall skip this one, or more
The Sonne Rising
BUSY old fool, unruly Sun,
Why dost thou thus,
Through windows, and through curtains, call on us?
Must to thy motions lovers’ seasons run?
Saucy pedantic wretch, go chide
Late school-boys and sour prentices,
Go tell court-huntsmen that the king will ride,
Call country ants to harvest offices;
Love, all alike, no season knows nor clime,
Nor hours, days, months, which are the rags of time.
Thy beams so reverend, and strong
Why shouldst thou think?
I could eclipse and cloud them with a wink,
But that I would not lose her sight so long.
If her eyes have not blinded thine,
Look, and to-morrow late tell me,
Whether both th’ Indias of spice and mine
Be where thou left’st them, or lie here with me.
Ask for those kings whom thou saw’st yesterday,
And thou shalt hear, “All here in one bed lay.”
She’s all states, and all princes I;
Nothing else is;
Princes do but play us; compared to this,
All honour’s mimic, all wealth alchemy.
Thou, Sun, art half as happy as we,
In that the world’s contracted thus;
Thine age asks ease, and since thy duties be
To warm the world, that’s done in warming us.
Shine here to us, and thou art everywhere;
This bed thy center is, these walls thy sphere.
John Donne
loved Donne since studying at A level….
something of my own
THE EDGE OF OURSELVES.
Black and red,
so much the blood lifelines.
Deep shadows of towers
colours of old earth
burnt flint and
great universal suns.
Bleedings of stigmatic souls.
The thought guardians are most attentive.
Splashes of others with us.
Reflected light from a
new windmill an
absurd little field toy.
Clichés of mist light
over a field stream
and a child’s skin.
Polished rock light of
past treadings sharp light of
broken glass.
Piercing glass constellations.
Terrible light words
of another beyond
spectrum they would burn
bright with spirit and
opalescence luminescent
and transcendant.
Who speaks from the same creed
to the battalions?
Colours of stone sky earth
their own eternity
own silence and speaking.
The edge of ourselves.
The sounds of something
just missed
just glimpsed
an absence re-assembling.
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and
SILENCES
Listen to the great silences in
the eternities and the sky places, the
archons whose rule does not challenge.
Silence rules as the brother of all passing.
The silence after a gift.
Silence before the Word.
Silence after a death.
The silence of they that
go down to the dust.
I am the silence that is incomprehensible
and the idea whose remembrance is frequent.
I shall be silent amongst these.
It is the name of the sound.
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Anonymous and JJ,
Thanks guys/girls, for posting these poems. Great stuff !
@ Ioan
We shall yet make a poet of you!
much appreciate your comment
can I resurrect my idea of some months ago, contributors here select/compose a relevant ext, thought, prayer etc for these troubling times ….Saker finds someone compiles them to make a book to raise funds for this website and blog or deserving charitable end or research assistant for example, and is it time for a quarterly ask-appeal for contributions again?? Its been great to see new commentators on the blog as well as returning persons, and people who have been checking out here for a while and now contributing.
Well, I think it is a very good idea. Maybe Saker shall think through it more deeply, this is his web-page after all, only he can decide.
@ S113
Rest assured your “stale bread” contributions are the nourishing food for thought that keeps us on our toes. Give us more in raw vernacular, with thanks.
@ JJ
Re: Compilation of contributions
It is a great idea, whether published or not, but many of us, the prosaic foot-soldiers, wouldn’t have the flair for original literary prattle and the field would be limited to the blessed suspects who hog the spotlight and provide valuable entertainment and comic relief.
PS: You haven’t answered my question elsewhere: Do you manage to get any sleep? It’s hard enough to read all your stuff, let alone the trouble to research, summarize, paste and post…I had another question and that has been answered. Cheers
Kim
live signal of the meeting of the OAS to decide if the organization will apply the “democratic chart”
from TeleSur
The OAS secretary-general has implemented the Democratic Charter based on Article 20, which apparently allows him to call a permanent council meeting.
The Secretary-General of the Organization of American States (OAS), Luis Almagro, this Tuesday invoked the so-called “Democratic Charter” on Venezuela, a measure that initiates a process that could end in the suspension of the South American country from the OAS.
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Ecuador: OAS Chief Could Be Removed for ‘Inappropriate’ Letter to Venezuela’s Maduro
In a 132-page report released Tuesday, Almagro said this unprecedented move was based on “the alteration of the constitutional order and how it gravely affects the democratic order” in Venezuela.
Almagro has become the first head of the OAS to activate the charter against a member state against the will of its government, a step he takes based on Article 20, which authorizes the secretary-general or any member state to call on an immediate Permanent Council meeting. Almagro also summoned “a Permanent Council of the state members of the OAS between June 10 and 20 of 2016.”
The move comes as Venezuelan government and opposition leaders continue talks facilitated by former presidents Leonel Fernandez of the Dominican Republic and Martin Torrijos of Panama, along with former Prime Minister of Spain, Jose Luis Zapatero.
here live signal from the meeting
http://reporteconfidencial.info/noticia/3268487/en-vivo-consejo-oea-considera-proyecto-de-declaracion-sobre-la-situacion-venezuela-/?utm_content=buffer85db3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
It “should” be clear “by now”,that belonging to any organization that permits the US and its stooges to control it .Should be a “Red Line” for countries wanting their independence. It certainly “looks good” and is “flattering” for countries to belong to organizations like the OAS. But as long as those organizations take their orders from the US its absolute stupidity for countries to be a part of those organizations.Whenever these organizations show their subservience to the empire the free nations should drop their membership as a sign that they won’t allow that. Let the US and their stooges be alone in a half-full hall. The free nations will be better for it. And the organization will see that their peers won’t tolerate being under US control.
absolutely agree
Putin as a “worldly monk”. If this article even has a smidgen of truth then Putin is gearing up on all fronts: spiritual, economic, political and military to do battle.
http://russia-insider.com/en/christianity/brother-putin-did-he-become-monk/ri14738
I am so glad you shared this link. It is hard to know exactly what Putin received from the monks in Athos, but I think your statement that he is also gearing up on a spiritual front is a good observation. Those monks are not lightweights. They know the depths and the heights of a deep inner spiritual practice- dedicated to the Creator. I think that something was transmitted to him. It may have been a blessing, and in that context this would be very strengthening, In the comment section beneath the video Isabella Jones wrote, “The Father describing it – in the video “President” said “Never before have we known of such a thing, and it’s happening definitely is because of the Holy Mother” [words to that effect – I forget the actual ones].”
K
@ teranam13
Woe the oracles of the prophets and soothsayers! The second coming of Rasputin is come one century later on the dot!
The mysterious workings of underground societies and planetary confluences point to the the signs that the President of Russia has been revealed in Mt. Athos as Ras Putin, a courtier of the Kremlin.
Kim
With apologies for the irreverence.
The Hunter
The Forest, a silent place
Green cathedral, altar space
Frilly lichen, toadstool mounds
Spagnum moss’ greening fronds
Mushrooms capped, pregnant spore
Bloom upon the humus floor
Spiders webs, each architect
A member of the Forest sect
Weave long skeins from silken spools
Borne by zephyrs, ruffling pools
Stealthily, the Unseen Suit
Rings the trees, makes to fruit
Deckled seeds, windy-borne
Buds of May to Fall’s acorn
Carried on an unknown breeze
It passes over lime-touched trees
Breathes upon the curling leaves
Of bluebells, lady-sleeves
Then paints the berries jewelled hues
Pens the leaves with liney clues
Draws the juice from saplings silver
Feels them tremble, softly shiver
Sparks the brambles berried rapture
Laughing, foils human capture
Places fruit-nuts in their cases
Hides them in the easy places
Squirrels reach, birds alight
All the while, out of sight
The Unseen (so many moods)
Deep within the greeny woods
A Mystery be, a ghostly speech
Rippling past the clumsy reach
Of human ears
And unquiet human fears
In a clearing, comes then swift
A Beast, its movements spare and thrift
The Timberwolf, ever ware
Casts about for trap and snare
Knowledge in her topaz eyes
Of unqueen and kingly lies
Takes position, an ancient love
Of the stars that lie above
Tears a howl, long and sere
From her throat: ‘Why am I here?’
Again this lonesome lunar child
In the Forests of the Wild
Calls to all the stars that be:
‘Why hast thou forsaken me?’
The echo round the circled trees
No answer gives, yet carries
Far beyond the forest clearing
To galaxies past earthly hearing
Where the heaven’s timpanii
Sounds her soul’s ancestry
Winter then with snows engulf
Sends to sleep the Timberwolf
Snow and ice tip and gloss
With crystals clear the forest moss
Quivering shrew, blinded mole
Hibernating mouse and vole
Bobtail rabbits, grey-lobed hares
Breathe as one with sleeping bears
Beneath the snowy canopy
Dreams of beasts multiply
Clawed and fanged hunters chase
Smaller creatures safely graze
Each and all as if but part
Of a single, beating heart
Beyond the Forest’s mantled-rime
Fires are lit in human time
Skies at night, picked and scarred
Stars and planets diamond-hard
Shed their light on glowing faces
Lit by candles holy places
Past the smoke of festive cheer
Show the Star, touching-near
Of Bethlehem, by which ’tis said
Wise Men Three to Christ were led
Unseen of the Forest den
Know not the Fisherman
Nor grief, nor tears, nor human loss
Nor Cavalry, nor cypress Cross
Nor despair, nor agony
Nor know they of Gethsemane
Fated by the revenants
Of eons past, far events
Form and Shape strange endow
The changing stream of Here and now
With knowledge of what Part to play:
Hunter and fleeing Prey
Think ye the hunting She-wolf cold?
No place has she to thought unfold
‘Tis mankind uniquely given
To both Sin…. and be Forgiven
Anonymous
Anonymous,
I just simply love it ! Thanks. It is your own poem ?
Thank you – yes :-)
@ Anonymous
You have been chosen the first author for JJ’s selected master pieces with a dramatic display and interplay of Nature’s creatures woven into a poetic tapestry of vivid colours and array of forms bedazzling hunter and fisher – who went home empty handed.
Kim
I feel in a somber mood; a touch of anxiety. My ex napping next to me. Hot tea ready to sip. I come here for “con-sol-ation.” Thoughts of death; my own and the planet’s converging; ups the anxiety. What use are more words piled up? John Lennon died and his words live on. For what? For me to read here? Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns; it calls me on and on across the universe. Words flowing out, he said. John Donne’s poem on the sun. Brother Sun and Sister Moon. I’m playing off what you give me. Putin, a worldly monk. Me a wordy monk still. Posted by a womam. Putin among the monks as monk in chief. The chant Kyrie Eleison, Lord, have mercy; I must have chanted that ten thousand times. Think in reverse engineering. Army of the Orthodox; the love army. The chants. Patriarchy’s finest hour. Putin with the eyes of a child with a sad heart; like me as a child. Apolonia comes in from the garden, like an Eve of nature. She looks at what I’m looking at; Putin on Mr. Athos with the chanting monks. She says: “Life is suppressed. Manhood is suppressed. Religion is disempowering. Know your pain as a kid and how you reacted. Stay away from religion. Nature, food, real stuff of life isn’t talked about. The man had neck pain, from a baseball bat. Your sister has a bent neck, parkinsons the doctors tell her. Maybe she’s pissed off.” The poem, The Hunter, a timberwolf in the forest of the night. Words flow out as John said. The clock ticks off the time. I’m going out tonight to a meeting in the flesh where we talk, sort of like in a cafe like this. I guess it’s good to meet in the flesh and to mesh that with a virtual world like this. I’m listening for what anxiety says. Words and feeling pass through my body and come to rest in the word “love.” I feel tentative; not sure. An uncertain trumpet. Think I should apologize. Think that’s more lies. I love you all, Amen.
More sleep Mr Leary, nothing like nature’s great restorer to soothe the troubled breast..
I would be in an awful mood if I get myself napping next to my ex…kind of suicidal mode…no way!
Nothing like a religious discourse to put a Cafe on edge and have everyone go mum.
Anybody know this Zeusse character better than I do, having read Christ’s Ventriloquists and a few articles only? First time I saw Saker invite one of his articles here, or am I mistaken?
Oh, let’s change it up, before the proprietor just gives up and closes the joint! Sphincters are way too tight!
Here’s a Russian guy performing in Moscow, showing the proper way to play the accordion:
https://youtu.be/V3-diqR41yo
Mod, Can you move that to the end?? More people might enjoy it that way…its a funny act, with singing and a variety of other things
Sorry.its set to post in order received.MOD
K. Now I know the technology….Was reading that long poem and forgot to go back to the top……Thanks
Very amusing and clever – thanks!
This is great, what an imagination, sense of humor and technique. Thanks Bro for sharing it. After that I gotta drink a Vodka…
I read Zeusse’s Christ’s Ventriloquist. I don’t know what ax he needs to grind, but I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about in that area. It was shallow, misleading, boring and irritating, in my opinion. But then I am that way to him, others and myself.
I’m caught in a tangle of conflicts that are debilitating. Putin’s visit to Mt. Athos is touching to me but it contradicts my basic convictions. It symbolizes the height of patriarchy which is enemy number one in my book. Putin looked like a small boy trapped by black robed priests; like me. God and sex-less men are what I am desperately trying to escape. I seek natural love: womam first and foremost, with men in a helping role.
Then the last thread with Lavrov contradicting what the Saker, Orlov and the other man just said in their warning.
I feel like I am being played, and am playing myself. I think I need to take time off. I feel stuck in a rut. I need a break to attempt to break free. I appreciate all I am learning here but it just isn’t enough. There’s something missing.
I’m leaving today to help out at a health classic. It’s a small break, doing something different in a different place. Maybe it will help.
One last thought. The picture of this cafe with the characters frozen in that time-space shot. Two womem are touching each other and touching me thereby. The man is preparing food for them and giving me food for thought thereby. “Good-bye is too good a word; so I’ll just say: fare thee well.”
In the interest of word economy I am shedding my last name.
See here, for the official announcement: /a-russian-warning/comment-page-2/#comment-244672
Ok, so that was verbose, as usual, but I’m headed in the right direction, aren’t I? Twenty paragraphs, or two (“set very high, nearly impossible goals!”) is surely an improvement over forty.
Anyone notice that there are about 30,000 hits on the Russia’s Warning article??
Dennis, I agree the Christ’s Ventriloquists is a tedious read. But aren’t all legal briefs?!
I mean his whole point is that something new in history is now possible: A legal/forensic approach to the origins of Christianity.
For sure I would never hire a person like you (or our dear Elsi) as legal counsel, even if you made it through law school. Martin, on the other hand, that’s a different story……..
Law is definitely a left -brain profession. Although when it comes to swaying juries, the great attorneys get that creative/right brain/sacred feminine/intuitive/True Care mojo going, Big Time.
The one/two punch is devastatingly effective.
My main point is similar to Zuesse’s: It is now possible, for the first time in history, to take almost all of the hocus pocus subliminal mind control techniques away from the black robed guys, whatever spirit they are serving. It’s usually not the greatest purity of spirit, as the dismal results show.
This short 7 min video in the above lined comment is therefore much to the point:
https://youtu.be/zz8uocAVHmA
that Cafe frequenters might never get to unless posted here.
No more secrets. No more treating adults like children, and reducing them to children.
Cheers! Bro
Dear Bro (Anon),
Thank you for taking the time to post here. After a (welcome) two week break from the internet I’m trying to catch up with at least some of the Vineyard’s output. I particularly look out for your comments, (almost) hoping (just for the sake of convenience) that the cafe is your only hangout, only to find you popping up in unexpected places, usually stirring up a hornet’s nest or two! I hope your health is good and that your energy levels have recovered somewhat.
This site is a wonderful resource. Thanks again to all the fine commenters, to the mods and to the Saker himself.
Why thank you for your kind words, Lissos.
I remember you from at least one comment, although I don’t recall the exact topic.
I regret a few people’s reactions to some stirrings whose purpose they clearly did not grasp, but nothing has phased me so far. I welcome the pressure to improve and deepen my grasp of truth. And knowing that a number of bruised egos and sensibilities are laying in wait for some egregious misstep is great motivation to think hard and not get too comfortable or lazy!
If you or anyone reading any post of mine anywhere else does not get an answer from me, it is true I hang out at the MFC more than anywhere else, and I welcome any short message asking if I saw a reply asking me a question, outside of the Cafe.
I say this because my intention is to try to answer anything and everything that is asked of me, because that is surely the quickest road forward, but I myself often can’t find where I posted something 1,2,3 days ago, so if I don’t answer, it means I lost that thread, not that I am ignoring anyone.
That’s why the Cafe idea was so fantastic. Its a great way to meet up and catch up, in one place.
Thanks Bro, I will catch now the possibility to ask something from you. Just recently I read an article about satanists in California : “6-6-16: Satanists In Los Angeles Will Construct A Giant Pentagram To ‘Raise Awareness’ For Satanism” . My question is : is that so as the below article wrote ? or it is exaggerated ? As you live there you must be much more and far better informed. Thanks.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/6-6-16-satanists-in-los-angeles-will-construct-a-giant-pentagram-to-raise-awareness-for-satanism
reposted from theNation.com is Professor Cohen on the resurgence of the image of Stalin in Russia:
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/stalin-resurgent-again/ri14749
@ eranam13
Thank you for the article in Russian Insider which, strangely enough, just parrots the lying MSM and its acolytes, including S.Cohen. What they are saying is that Stalinism is being re-created in Russia and, by extension, Putin’s cause.
The slanderous MSM did the same few years ago when there was talk at the Volgograd City council for changing the name back to Stalingrad, which they do on the days commemorating the Battle of Stalingrad. The imputation is that Putin is resurrecting Stalinism step-by-step and the most potent symbol of the vilified man is the city named after him. And do you know why? He did not order the city to bear his name in 1925 shortly after of being elected chairman of the CPSU. It was the city aldermen who decided it in honour of the man who led the fight on an earlier battle there against the White Guards and British allies.
If someone is demonized in the whorish MSM it means that they hate the person, hence someone who did not submit to Azionism. And Stalin deserves to be demonized because he built the main foundations for the USSR, the enemy of the Azion empire. Of course the “Western” MSM dripped scorn on Putin for ‘resurrecting’ Stalin. But the irony is that without Stalin’s iron grit, the Stalingrad Battle would have gone the other way and the West would have had a different history if he hadn’t turned the tide of the war.
The Battle of Stalingrad was the turning point in World War II. Hitler had amassed the biggest invasion force in history between the Don and Volga rivers — 14 crack Nazi divisions were deployed on the Stalingrad front where the Red Army literally broke the back of Nazi Germany and Hitler never recovered.
The Russian sacrifices would not have been of such gigantic proportions if Britain had opened a western front but what Winston Churchill hoped for was that the Soviet Union would bleed to death on its own. Stalin’s huge contribution to the defence and build up of the Soviet Union is part and parcel of Russia’s heroic history and he should be honoured.
And the Russian people are committing the supreme heresy by declaring that Stalin was a great man! The Western historians (and some Russian traitors such as Khrushchev) bloviate ad nauseum that Stalin was a monster because he inflicted unspeakable atrocities on the Soviet people but they forgot something: to ask the people themselves.
Kim
Kim, in 1990 I visited Denmark and Sweden and remarked to my hosts about how well so many Danes and Swedes spoke English.
They replied that it wasn’t always so, and that long ago, the primary second language taught in schools and used in society was German.
I asked when the change came.
My hosts answered with only one word: Stalingrad!
Peoples who are buffeted about by much stronger forces than themselves are very quick to feel the changes in wind direction, and make adjustments, like weather vanes.
@ Bro
You really are a devoted Quigley’s disciple. Now you are saying the Scandinavians are dimwits!
Kim
Important info:
Chris Hodges now has a program on RT America
and a lawsuit against the Board of Elections in California failed. Not only were they not informing people correctly, but also they had people on the phone misinforming people: I argued fruitlessly with one. Furthermore they did not send me my vote by mail ballot and promised to send me out another one and it has not arrived yet. Now I ask, as i asked the Placer County Board of elections customer management folks, ” How many other people registered as Independents did this happen to? ” I have served at a local precinct as either an Inspector, a Judge and a Clerk on various occasions so I know how it works and how they are going to throw the election. They will make all independents who mysteriously did not get mailed a ballot walk into their polling place and cast what is called a “provisional ballot”. Those do not get processed for weeks and can be thrown out especially if they claim that you did indeed vote by mail and are trying to vote twice by walking in claiming a “lost” ballot or a “never received” ballot. This is where this election will be fixed by mutual consent of the Dems and Repubs because neither want to debate Bernie on the issues.
I suggest that the Bernie folks get people into the ballot counting centers as observers along with lawyers set to challenge procedure.
https://www.rt.com/usa/345240-sanders-voting-judge-california/
Dear friends
I’d like to share what to me is the most beautiful melody.
Moscow nights, Anne Terzibaschitsch
Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ6aga6eDys
Vercia V
Thanks for the link, a beauty of a little girl playing such a soul lifting melody
@ioan:
Austria: Presidental-election challenge by FPÖ increasingly likely
Title
– June 2, 2016
Currently FPÖ leader Heinz-Christian Strache lets legally examine the possibility of challenging results of the Federal Presidential runoff. A criminal complaint will so Strache, “due to numerous irregularities increasingly likely”.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metropolico.org%2F2016%2F06%2F02%2Fbp-wahl-anfechtung-durch-fpoe-immer-wahrscheinlicher%2F&edit-text=
Martin
Thanks, I’m on it. (now just moved to the next Cafe)
This is my own Research on what is causing Climate Change, and while I agree that Climate can and does change, I Disagree that carbon dioxide is a major or even significant factor, and I think that the Major Causes of Climate Change are periods of weaker than average or stronger than average Solar Activity, and also Deforestation, and my latest comment are more accurate because of doing more Research on this matter.
It needs to be kept in mind that some Scientists on both sides of the carbon dioxide debate are either genuinely mistaken or Deliberately Lying for some reason, and which does Not always have to be because of but is most of the time because of Corruption, Blackmail, Intimidation, or Bribery, but Many Scientists are Deliberately Lying because of Wrongly blaming Innocent carbon dioxide for climate change.
There are Scientists with PhD Degrees, and as an entire group, they Disagree on every aspect of the Debate of the role of carbon dioxide on climate, and because these PhD Scientists as an entire group Cannot all be correct on every aspect of that topic, then it is up to Individuals to make up their own minds on this matter.
This is what I have done on this matter, and with more Research there is better understanding of this matter, and I do not claim that all of my opinions on this matter are correct, because I am Not a scientist, but I can understand most of the Science I read, but there is No intention by me to deliberately lie on this matter.
I have discovered that carbon dioxide has no adverse effects on the Environment, on the Climate, or the Oceans, and that carbon dioxide is currently 400 parts per million in the atmosphere and that Plants like 1,500 parts per million to help them Grow bigger, better, and faster, and to help heat up the Earth to have more heat for the coming Little Ice Age, and I think the best Solution to the Little Ice Age will be found if Scientists only consider the last 3,500 years of History that is able to be Verified, and by Only using Known Science, and they should ignore longer periods of time if they are to come to a much better understanding, because it is the Laws of Physics that Determines Earth’s Climate, and Solar Activity plays the Major role, but what happens on the Earth does also affect the Climate.
There are Many Scientists who say that the the Climate of our Planet will become Colder, and that there will be another Little Ice Age as has happened before in Earth’s History at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age , and that this is because of the Historically Recorded and Scientifically Proven Predictablity of Solar Cycles at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle .
We Know that many things have Cycles, such as the yearly Seasons, the Tides, Ocean Cycles, the Lunar Cycle and there is also a Solar Cycle.
There are Many Scientists who say that a Colder Planet will lead to more Volcanoes on Land, because more pressure builds up in the molten mantle, and that these Land Volcanoes will emit Dust into the atmosphere, and they refer to these dust particles as aerosols, and Reforestation is the way to put more water vapor into the atmosphere to bring these aerosols back to the sea and ground using rain.
These aerosols from Volcanoes contribute to Droughts, because they reflect heat into space and Cool the Planet, this reduces the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere which warms our Planet during the a Colder period, and which is needed to collect onto those aerosols to bring them back to the sea and ground by means of rain.
There are People who are wondering if the Chemtrails in America have as their purpose to Cool the Planet much faster than what would otherwise happen, because there are Corrupt Vested Interests who have Financial Investments and Corrupt Business Models.
There is the work of Professor of Physics Henrik Swensmark who says that that variations in Solar Activity will vary the amount of clouds in the atmosphere, and that more clouds will cause more cooling of the Planet, and if those clouds can be made to rain, then perhaps the cooling will be less, and perhaps those aerosols will create more rain, but even if this happens, there will be less heat coming to the Earth and this will cool the Earth, and there will be more snow to cool the Earth.
We have heard of those who say that the Earth is getting hotter say that they worry that the Arctic might melt and flood Coastal Cities, but the Arctic is Not on Land, but it is floating on water, and floating ice floats because it is less dense frozen water, which is only 10 % above the water, and if it does melt, then it will become denser water, and it has been Scientifically Proven that it will Not raise the sea level, and the Antarctica which is on Land has Very Short Cold Summers and Very Long and Very Cold Winters of minus 130 degrees Fahrenheit, and it is getting Colder and it will Not melt, except for a small percentage of Ice in summer that All comes back in winter.
This can be compared somehow to how All of the snow that comes back in winter to those places where there is no snow in summer, but only a small percentage of the peripheral Antarctic Ice melts in the Antarctic summer, and most of it stays where it is, to be joined by more Ice in the Very Long and Very Cold Antarctic winter, and the World’s Ocean would need to boil and Land Temperatures would need to be 200 degrees Fahrenheit before All of the Antarctic Ice would melt, and so there is no need to even discuss melting of the Antarctica as a supposed problem.
There are People who want to make America a Dictatorship with the Bush and Clinton Dictatorial Dynasties, who would want to make America a Dictatorship, and they would use Environmental Problems as their Convenient excuse, but their Deliberately Wrong remedies are based on Lies that they Know to be Deliberate Lies, and their Wrong proposed solutions would make Environmental and Climatic matters worse than they were.
The Purpose of that is to make America a Dictatorship, and after their Deliberately Wrong remedies do Not work, then they will suggest more of the same Wrong remedies and say that More Dictatorship is needed to care for the Environment.
There are People who think that the Establishment possibly Bribes and Controls Every Political Party in America, and they would include the Green Party of America, whom they think either wrongly or rightly are Effectively Establishment environmentalists, and the Video is Titled: Environmentalist Trashes Global Warming Hysteria at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMkrTWGuXbY .
We see from that Video that the Little Ice Age will Lower Agricultural production, because of the shorter warm periods, and that Land that is being used for Unnecessary bio fuels, because there is an abundance of Fossil Fuels, but Fracking for Gas is Bad for the Environment for Many reasons, that we All Know of.
There is hundreds of years of supplies of Coal on this Planet, and there is Clean Coal Technology, and there are People who think that triple glazed greenhouses that are heated with coal where more carbon dioxide is placed in those greenhouses is how to increase Agricultural production to avert Famines in America during the coming Little Ice Age.
There are Many Scientists who are Honest Scientists and Genuine People, but they have been Thoroughly Deceived by Constant Lies to think that carbon dioxide has an adverse affect on the Environment, the Climate, and the Oceans, and some of those who notice their Contribution to the Environment should propose Environmental Solutions for the Soil, for Reforestation, and reversing Desertification, but only in the Context that carbon dioxide is Not a problem for the Environment, or the Climate, or the Oceans, and that a Little Ice Age is Inevitable because of the Reduced level of Solar Activity, and perhaps HAARP may be used to prevent snow in unusual places to help the American Democratic Party for the Election, even as some People think that the FBI, the Department of Justice, and the State Department were used Corruptly to help Hillary Clinton.
We Know that Hillary Clinton wants to Deceive the Older People with the Lies of Clean Green Energy, and she wants the Elderly who work in Fossil Fuels to lose their jobs, so that the supporters of Senator Sanders think that they will have Clean Green Jobs, but Hillary Clinton Only wants Access to the Presidential Nuclear Shelter that has Decades of Supplies including Drugs and Alcohol, because the Clintons Know that the Little Ice Age is coming, and the Clintons care Only about Themselves.
We have heard the Lies that carbon dioxide will adversely affect the Oceans, but it will Not adversely affect the Oceans, and this is explained in the Video that is Titled: Ocean Acidification – The Facts – Dr Patrick Moore , and the affects of the Little Ice age are explained in the Video that is Titled: 60% Reduction in Solar Activity Means a 5°C Drop by 2030 Mini Ice Age 2015-2035.
There are Scientists who say, that there was Global warming until recently, but that there will be Global cooling, and so no one needs to be called a Deliberate Liar on the Climate, because Humans Cannot control Solar Activity, but they can Adapt to the Little Ice Age, and a Group of Scientists should come up with Reasonable Proposals to Cope with the Little Ice Age based on True Science and Good Economics.