2016/10/10 20:11:47
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In the wake of the debate last night (9OCT2016) I’d like to call to the reader’s attention two informative videos produced by Sean at SGTReport.com:
Proof: Hillary is Rothschild’s Puppet w/ Author James Perloff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ7_evaLfkM
*Rothschild support of candidate Hillary Clinton comes out from behind the veil showing their desperation that public support is waning and something has to be done quick to bring the people back to Hillary.
*How the weather, weather reporting, and geo-engineering have been used to manipulate the weather derivatives market and political events in order to manipulate the election returns.
*How wars and mass killing events (i.e. Hiroshima/ Nagasaki) have really been burnt sacrifices by the Satanist overlords of this world to their dark lord.
Hillary Will Bring Us WW3 w/ Harley Schlanger of EIR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2OXfLatBk0
If Hillary Clinton somehow manages to be elected the President, what that will mean is MOAR WOAR: The last gasp attempt to Bring in a Real one world government & a Real one world currency, both in favor of the bankster elite to whom Hillary is a puppet. James Perloff in the previous video brought up how the major world wars have been used to institute changes of global significance, and a third world war will be used in the same way. If we know already what the globalists want to do to this world of ours is a massive culling of the population and global control for them, then it’s the logical conclusion that if their puppet, HC takes the office of the President, the USA will be going to war with Russia and China for a third and final world war. With Donald Trump, a WW3 outcome is not as easy to predict.
The bright side to all this is that it is within the power of the people of this world to thwart their efforts, and bring about the changes we need to see to make this a far better world than the one they wanted for us.
Quoting Schlanger who at one point responding to the question to the effect that the Congressional response to the Obama Veto of HR 2040 (Justice Against State Sponsors of Terror Act – JASTA) doesn’t really go far enough to address all the other perpetrators of 9/11 besides Saudi Arabia, he says,
“…the cover-up is now being ripped apart (i.e. the effect of the “28 pages” being declassified and the JASTA bill veto overriden) and that’s important because as you know and your listeners know,The same people conducting and supporting terrorism, are the same ones supporting these insane ‘free trade’ agreements, the looting of countries by the bankers, the Wells-Fargo types and things of that sort – they’re all one gang of crooks, and by starting to unravel the cover-up, there’s the possibility that we could go all the way to the truth.”
I think there’s a lot of good intel coming out of SGT Report, and I would recommend that the website, SGTreport.com and the YouTube channel you should support and make it a frequent stop in your quest for the information that will never be forth coming from the mainstream media.
In the May 1959 edition of the Journal of the Atomic Scientists, Dr Robbert Oppenhiemer remarked that the advances in the field of psychology to control what a man believes to be true made the challenges faced by the atomic scientists seem trivial.
It is worth noting that Oppenhiemer used the word TRIVIAL.
I believe that Americans have not successfully stopped the US Military Industrial War Machine since Vietnam because of the effectiveness of these methods.
The father of American Psychological Warfare, specifically covert hypnotic methods is psychologist and hypnotist Dr George Estabrooks. He worked for OSS in 1943 (OSS later became the CIA / DIA ) He stated in 1943 that “Anything said to a hypnotized subject is true for them” He also said that the covert methods of hypnosis and suggestion would continue to be effective until their targets became familiar with the methods being used upon them.
If a man, immersed in a society where these methods are in play were to learn just one of these METHODS, then to a degree the truth would become a bit less invisible.
Here is ONE Method. Most are familiar with Goebbels “Big Lie”, and several restatements remarking upon the effectiveness of the Big Lie, but never before in my 60 years have I encountered an explanation such as this one that explains how and why the Big Lie “works” its magic.
The Reverse Blockade
“Reverse Blockade: emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person’s mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the “golden mean” between truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. ” age 104, Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski
More about this here: https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2015/10/07/the-master-manipulator/
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Another METHOD:
When thinking is induced to stop by any means, the door to your subconscious is left unguarded, and anything stated to you during this time is to some degree hypnotic, acting as a direct suggestion to the subconscious.
This was and is what George Bush was referring to as “Shock and Awe”, the METHOD, combined with the BIG LIE above, used to do 911.
These strange lessons I have learned by a tortuous path, through being hypnotized into joining a cult, scientology, and then spending decades trying to learn how the trick was done. However the lessons gained apply to how we might end conflict:
“War is the greatest injustice. We are not fighting the culprits. Those who pay, who incite, who use the media to make people turn against each other – this is who we should fight against.” – Alexey Mozgovoy, commander of the “Ghost” brigade, killed May 23, 2015
https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/11/
You can read the first half of George Estabrook’s 1943 book “HYPNOTISM” here for free (at my expense) : http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist7.htm
Various METHODS that I have isolated are described on my blog pages. arnielerma.wordpress.com
@ Arnie
Thank you for your important contribution to our understanding of mind control techniques.
Anyone with a passing interest in psychology is/should be aware that it can work for both good and evil and many early mass experiments were conducted
Yes, you are correct, In the 50’s my family doctor in Washington DC, who made house calls, wore a tweed jacket and bow tie. The AMA (American Medical Society) told doctors to wear a white lab coat, because it gave them more authority.Authority hypnosis works well for good however clinical practitioners of hypnosis are warned NOT to use it because it creates psychological dependency.
This feature is, of course, exploited.
I believe that these (and other) methods, which I learned deconstructing a cult which uses them to induce a normal human being to end up believing all sorts of silly things including about an evil alien warlord named XENU and that his body is infested with space cooties are the same METHODS being used to create terrorists. Only the shore story and stage setting are different.
Of course the use of CAPTAGON helps a great deal also. Anything that damages the areas of the brain associated with conscience or violent reaction would be helpful if you wanted to create terrorists. Incidentally, the area of the brain just above and behind your ear, is where the violence response lives….
“Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” Voltaire:
Thanks for your comment, very infornative. And special thanks for the reminder of comrade Mozgovoi.
His statement frames the problem of war in a manner giving perspective to life itself and reminded me of a quote I crafted and reposted to try to help Americans think past the emotional keys being played upon the “The Mighty Wurlitzer” of controlled and choreographed media and false flags.
“Those who think own us,
keep us at each other’s throats,
to prevent our uniting at theirs.”
False flags in America go back to the US Civil War, when the head of the notorious KKK dissolved the organization, after Yankee infiltrators choregraphed the ugly atrocities that were successfully used to enrage the northerners to support the US Civil War in 1860. And this was all done for THE PROFIT.
Democracy is a stage setting for fascists, when what the public believe true is controlled by a handful of oligarchs behind closed doors.
And we are running out time.
@ Arnie
bummer, lost my post, continuing…
… during the first decades of TV transmission in Yankland hidden subliminal messages were presented in normal programming glorifying the USA and its government. Don’t know whether it is still practised, but I guess there are nowadays more efficient means to produce identical results.
In my studies on the subject in late 1970s I came across the most blatant use of TV broadcasts for mass indoctrination: to convince the Samoans to agree to become an administrative territory of the US. A referendum had been conducted, apparently supervised by the UN, and they rejected any association with the US. No problem; very soon the islanders saw TV come to them and receivers freely given away. After an adequate time for the message to sink in another referendum was held and, surprise surprise, the Samoans saw how democracy works and voted yes.
If you follow my links you would have come to the article from which I quote Dr Robert Oppenhiemer. That article is about those subliminal advertisements.
The Ethics of Tachistocopy” in the May 1959 Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists..
The man who wrote it is an interesting character:
“This was for many psychologists, a most sobering observation. The possibility of controlling human behavior becomes a more terrifying prospect than the control of nuclear reactions”
And note who this gentlemen represents:
Arthur (Art) J. Bachrach (born March 20, 1923 – December 19, 2011) was an American psychologist and administrator, who was Professor and Chairman of the Department of Psychology at Arizona State University, and Director of the Environmental Stress Program and Chair of Psychophysiology at the Naval Medical Research Institute at the Naval Medical Center in Bethesda.
Good thing Milton Erickson never got together with Estabrooks! Then we would all be in trouble. Dr
Erickson could put a member in the audience under a deep trance without looking at them or mentioning them, just after the person asked a question. Some people are ethical and some are not.
Well, perhaps as troubling, in the book “The Letters of Milton Erickson” is correspondence between Dr Erickson and Dr Stanley Milgram!
In those letters they refer to that work we did for the government.
This should concern you as much or more than what you posited!
George Estabrooks ghost wrote a little novel in 1947, supposedly a fiction work, titled “Death in the Mind” It was about the creation of spys using hypnosis. My gut feeling after putting this one down (in a cold sweat) was this ‘fiction’ work was Dr Estabrook’s effort to relieve a guilty conscience for the work he did for OSS. I believe it was his effort to warn us.
Another mind blowing factoid… ALL the old hypnotists remark in their own words that intelligent people make the best hypnotic subjects. They nearly all also mention that they believed this was due to the fact that intelligent people were able to control their minds better.
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Another METHOD, is repetition, however, like the big lie above, everyone knows that repetition works but no one explains WHY repetition works. What you will find out also manifests in crowds. I find this view elegant and simple compared to Le Bon’s work “The Crowd” . LINK to The secret of repetition
Additional reference materials and entire books can be found HERE
Dr Joost Meerloo’s book Rape of the Mind, as well as Delusion and Mass Delusion can be found HERE.
In 1997, in a FOIA lawsuit, the CIA Interrogation Manual was declassified. Having spent considerable time scanning and webbing ,Dr Meerloo’s “Rape of the Mind” ten years prior, I was stunned to find it listed in a footnote in the KUBARK Interrogation Manual. (Kubark is a word substitution cipher for the CIA, one of many)
The footnote read… that interrogators would benefit by getting know their own minds better. And there it was! Joost Meerloo’s Rape of the Mind! A book written by a Swedish Psychiatrist and M.D. who was detained in Holland during the Nazi occupation and released during a jail break through the efforts of the French Resistance’!. The book is what he learned during the NAZI occupation. The psychology of totalism.
Another METHOD is revealed on page 45 of that manual, called The Confusion Technique, I have two pages about that method HERE but the Kubark version is easier to understand.
Why am I typing so much of this now? I am doing what I can to to try to prevent WWIII.
Thank you for your comment and for providing this opportunity.
Arnie Lerma
Arnie,
Thanks so much for sharing, it is fabulous to finally understand what has happened in my life, and what is happening in the outside world.
I must never let anyone or anything ever keep me from my critical thinking mind.
As for all of the participants in the café keep up the good work, love the poetry and information. I will continue to frequent this site as I have for the last few years.
mistaboins
Yes. Did they do the experiment to expose the sorry condition of the US people and mind control or to explore it further for use by the state? The thought occurred to me yesterday when I read the original post.
It reminded me of bizarre events like Laura Bush saying her favorite ‘book’ [sic] was The Legend of the Grand Inquisitor. I immediately thought: Did she take the side of the silent Christ or of the Grand Inquisitor? (Dostoyevsky foresaw the coming birth of the foul Leo Strauss and others like him).
This post of yours has helped me confirm my hunch about Laura’s choice.
Thank you.
1) I wish someone had explained this to me a half century ago.
(Would I have listened?)
2) I wish someone would explain this better. The problem I have encountered that several times I have sat down and explained all of this to a person. It tends to destabilize them. It is better parceled out by the shot glass instead of a shower. Too much washes way false belief systems, and the stability they provide a spirit, a spirit that is a finger of god. Maybe a comic book for kids? Something like that. And I have more.
@ arnie
Thank you for your insights re: mind control.
I note your reference to Dr. Stanley Milgrim.
I’d like to pursue Milgrim’s work and findings related to gender differences.
Any suggestions?
Re Milgram
I did not go in that direction, as Milgram’s material scares the poop out of those capable of understanding it, and he explains it better than I ever could, and with authority. I wanted to know how a certain operative destroyed my best friend, millionaire Robert Minton, and why an innocent simple man, named Shawn Lonsdale, who was trying to give his life meaning, ended up supposedly committing suicide. See: http://lermanet.com/betrayalofbobminton.htm
It’s so quiet in here! Not even our maitre’d iaon has arrived- a little eerie.
Well, I am arriving heart broken and suffering (again) over the ability of so many beloved friends and family who are so fooled by the shenanigans of the election et all. I cannot sit by idly. I’m muster up forgiveness at ignorance, and once again picking up my sword- dismiss the ‘s’,, and trying to word some truth into them. I like to provide references with my opinion pieces but am unskilled at finding things on the internet and asking for help.
I need:
-a link to that great interview where Putin speaks to journalists and rails about their ignorance in terms of nato nuclear weapons on its borders.
-I have the link for Maria Z’s latest about Western media being more terrifying than the terrorists. And would also appreciate a link to one of those previous Ash Carter or what’s her name stuttering with lies when pressed by reporter about US actions in Syria so I could contrast the two speakers.
Thanks much, cheers,
K
@ Kinterra
” … not even our maitre d’ Ioan has arrived.”
Have you looked properly? He lives here.
I’ve been wondering about that– there are many things about this cafe that are mysteries to me.
K
kinterra
You made me laugh kinterra, I can imagine myself running with the Movable Cafe, moving in various places, bringing with my old mom and my doggy in a mobile-house, like a mystery man with UFO connections.
“Have you looked properly? He lives here.” Very good observation, there is a table in the corner and I’m just there, drinking with my two hands a beer from a “small” glass as in the picture. It’s pretty heavy indeed, so when I’m finished with that five liter beer, I will be visited by some muses to have a closer look at the toilet. Meanwhile I just read a book by Orwell.
Try this one. Toner on transparancy and democracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MDqfg3tYIQ
I don’t know what the context was that caused that hilarity. But assuming it was a mocking of US democracy, that man is brave and I wonder what punishment he got for that irreverence to “american values”.
The one you are after on Putin speaking to the journalists is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PgSX-WD96Q
On Carter and Syria, the best is perhaps when they testified to the senate committee.
Carter and Dunsford https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkyK3TB0ONc
Carter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qn9EOAtxJA
Gracias Dear Peter AU- These are very much appreciated, and I am a silent fan of your many contributions here! You are one of my saker mentors.
K
Whew. That last cafe was an immovable beast; not a moveable feast. Thanks for the humor picture. So much for dark, smelly and smoky cafes of East Europe. Pour me a stiff one of high-octane juice.
It was too down and dirty dealing with Count Khazar and his consort, Z. I need something to lighten up besides two on the rocks. Here’s a poem from the 42nd week of the love year with the theme of “Clear”:
Mother of light
Father’s delight
Pure radiant mountain
Clear crystal fountain
Immeasurable treasure
Everlasting pleasure
Unlanded ocean
Freeflowing motion
Underlying supporter
Overriding protector
Cleanse and reform
Until I’m reborn
Straight and true
Close to you
Sweetest giver
Be a river
Flooding colors
Like no others
Beautiful light
Paint me bright
In your site
Now I’ve got to go back to the previous cafe and clean up the debris.
There is a Mother also in Lebanon…..Harissa Sanctuary…..I am sure someone who visited it recently did not lost the opportunity to bring something special from there….
https://youtu.be/HRhYGSFIHRg
@ Dennis
“So much for dark, smelly and smoky cafes of East Europe.”
I can’t do much nit-picking on your beautiful poetry or prose but I finally got something to write home about: you are not very observant!
Most cafes had a French ambiance and frequently had words, even names of streets in Paris, to identify them, plus menus and signs. The current one features beer swilling and I assumed German, but a closer look reveals the word “sandwich”, which is very deceptive because it’s not translatable, but “ouvert jour” comes to the rescue. Of course, it could be in many other places, from Belgium and Switzerland to Quebec, and my guess it’s the Saker hiding behind the ballon in Geneva.
Hi. I was referring to statements by the webmaster and a moderator that they wanted pictures that were serious, as in dark and smoky, with the ambiance of conspirators in a corner. I forget the exact words but that was my impression. I like the many French cafes and any that encourage intelligent conversation.
dedicated to the soon-to-be-present Ioan
Calm Before The Storm
the eerie calm of muted life-no rustle no caw
as if erstwhile hours of furious strife
have settled heavy into the Beast’s maw
and holding its breath it waits to strike
Is all humanity like Jonah in a waiting period
until we finally “get it” dropping excuses myriad
we don’t count
we’re too weak
we have to work
the future is bleak
No one cares
It will soon fall
So why should I dare?
Let’s shop at the mall.
When it gets so desperate and Death’s angels hover
we will be forced to talk, to listen, to gather together
To build, to heal, and to help one another
knowing then the survival of one, to all is tethered.
The world’s in a Panic
By Powers Satanic.
So Hail Foggy Bottom!
Play the Songe d’Automne
For your global Titanic.
Applause
Anonymous
I can’t go without noticing your good poem, short and lot saying. Keep them coming for our common joy !
Secrets are the mortar
binding lies like bricks together
into prisons for the mind.
Brilliant, as were your comments.
(And thanks ioan!)
Thanks teranam 13 for your dedication, you cup of kindness is bottomless. Your inner core is pure and noble, your verses are really true, in this world with lack of clue.
Double applause.
Dream last night.Me and dad on the road travelling along….huge ginormous humongous storm tornado coming along……ahead of us on our journey(dad passed two years ago)…bits of exploding stuff now coming out of it and hitting the ground like the exploding Yellowstone volcano in film 2012……had to take shelter for the winter…….later, wind blew from “left to right”, refreshed all, bringing in blue skies.
Hmmm…..maybe some interesting metaphors and allegories, symbolism there.
Looks like the cafe dwellers above are nursing a man size headache.
The last cafe was awesome… the poetry heart swelling and the energy uplifting. I could barely keep up with the banter… no wonder it’s quiet here today… everyone is regrouping and drawing new breath… just like Saker is doing.
The seasons have tilted … Spring blooms and bird twitter fills the air. Summer is just around the corner. And of course Christmas decorations appeared in the shops over a month ago.
Perhaps the habitues went on a riot when the Saker was absconding from Matthew!
The last Cafe was awesome indeed and hopefully not because of Mathew. Agree, the muses come and go like the wind, now by you down there is coming the spring and here in Europe is coming the winter. Now, after a beer and without headache as the guy in the picture, I found a piece of paper on my table – after returning from a place where even the kings go alone :
Nineteen Eighty-Four
Welcome folks in the Nineteen Eighty-Four
Let’s take a look, let’s take you on a tour :
A place of fear, for you, and me as well
They may use another name, than Hell
Well described by a man, named Orwell
A place which now looks as fantasy for us
But not for those who’re giving us a toss
A place where no one finds his rest
And your life, for them, is just another test
Where the fear belongs to life of every day
And you can’t say ” I’m moving now away”
Where a day is being like a hundred year
Where the night is under the reign of fear
Where privacy is just a dream for you and I
And waking up they tell, you’ve dreamed a lie
Where you’re a number in the countless line
Wearing it as your name, but that’s your sign
You’ve been told that everything would be fine
And you and your family would be safe and well
Cause this is the Heaven on Earth, not the Hell
They will take care of your kids at their school
Teaching them carefully to making them dull
They will take care of your wife as for a lady
Making her powerful and being your enemy
Searching for friends there, is searching in vain
What you call as friend is there for you to slain
Searching for trust, oh what a wishful thinking
Not doing what they told you, without a blinking
They will harass you, calling you a bandit
Till you’ll have no other choice, just to do it
Whatever they tell you, to watch or to kill
They’ll tell you a reason for their “good will”
I think we saw enough on this short tour
To have an idea on the Nineteen Eighty-Four
If you want to survive and get rid of this world
Take up the Word and use it like a Sword
The Word is the most dangerous weapon
Given by our Lord to clean the way to Heaven
Nineteen Eighty-Four is what they want to us
Not seeing anything in their highness and fuss
Not seeing the cracks in their planned road
Which is full of holes because of their fraud
Will this be peacefully or by bitter war
We will fight the enemy till his inner core
Some with weapons, some with spirit and head
Till the last of evil doers, till the last of that Rat
The war is already going as you may know
For every single spirit and for every single soul
We’re going to the war in every season
And sharing our love with a good reason
We say farewell, but not for long
We say good by to be more strong
Sadness lies there, deep in our heart
But tomorrow we’ll have a new start !
Accompanied by music : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9otasNmxI
Awesome combo of your poetry, music and video. You bring balance. I have grown too serious and bitter but now I feel better.
No rest for the wicked and the good don’t need it. Dark follows light like night after day. I put up a light poem and dark power follows. I return from the previous cafe which preceded me here.
Bro 93 says keeping current here plus commenting is a 24/7 commitment. Right. I’m retired with few demands on my time so if it were not for eye strain, I could do a 7/7.
I get the 93 on 9/11. Can I call you Bro?
I suppose my love for the Love Army is getting irritating but I know of no other agency with the power to do what this site proclaims.
There’s been much talk of blood sacrifice of late but no ideas that I know of on how to combat it, except that of the Love Army. Yes, exposing it is helpful but that is not combat.
Opposition implies a counter force. There are ten Love Army strategies to achieve victory. The first division is to think love thoughts , not evil ones. Again, Bro’s counsel aligns with mine. We need to look into evil and understand it; but that is not thinking evil thoughts. We can read and understand and not think them ourselves; in other words, originate and create through love thinking, especially when directed and focused.
I don’t get that anyone understands blood sacrifice history. I write about it at the Love Government which is the Commander in Chief of the Love Army. Unless we understand his-story, we are doomed to repeat it. And we will mount no counter-force. I will attempt a very brief precis here:
When our species appeared in full bloom about 100,000 years ago we enjoyed about 25,000 years when there was relatively little evil. Then came the “fall of man.” This is when blood sacrifice began.
The love culture was womam centered and governed which real men supported. A change occurred when jealousy of womam’s power of birth and greater sexual capacity entered the mind of the first patriarchal men. They saw womem bleed monthly and assumed correctly that it had something to do with having a womb and bearing children. We’ve lost the sense of it, but it was an awesome power and still is. Man did not have that and some grew jealous.
How to wrest that power from womam when you don’t have what it takes? You get a substitute and claim it is superior. Men could kill and sacrifice animals and shed blood that way. Some modern primitive cultures still slit penises in blood rituals. The power of blood letting began its campaign of terror to animals and grew to elaborate sacrifices of animals (and sometimes humans) to the gods and the one God to justify the evil and drown the guilt. Scapegoats took the blame.
The first killers advanced to respectable hunters. They bulked up on the bloody flesh, and began killing larger and larger animals and following them everywhere, down the ages to our own slaughterhouses. Domestication made it easier but the blood lust of hunting demanded its addiction be satisfied.
Enter war. First on animals; then on womem and her love culture, and men who would not go along. Blood lust and sacrifice grew to the point of slaughtering whole civilizations. The game is the same today except that our demure society demands it be covered over with benign slogans and universal denial. Blood lust was driven underground where it festers with even more power, especially when combined with necromancy of all those living dead hunters. Those who try to expose it are called crazy.
This demand for blood is still based on jealousy of womam’s natural power. It’s deep in our genes now and to be frank, is linked to the bloody penis, disguised as clubs, sharp sticks, arrows, javelins, spears, guns, bullets, missiles, bombs, drones and other penile instruments like money. Womem have been turned into women, who because of their abuse and greater brain power and repressed sex; now joined to a male consciousness, can be worse than the worst of men.
Often gang members have to prove their manhood by killing an innocent citizen. The really big boys, and now femen, need to prove their virility with bigger and bigger wars, sometimes augmented by killing innocent children ritually.
Killing also includes denaturing the blood without spilling it immediately; that comes later with the undertaker. Life is in the blood according to our deep automatic response mechanisms. Womam’s culture of natural bleeding has been destroyed and in its place has arisen the bloody machine of patriarchy.
Back to the Love Army, division two. Here’s where the lights go out for well bred and obedient slaves of empire. The injunction is don’t kill animals, much less eat them. Because of our close connection to them, we become in effect cannibals of ourselves. For those who have even the dimmest of lights still on, it’s obvious that we are consuming ourselves. The animals take their revenge.
The Love Army is directly challenging meat-eaters to change their way of thinking and eating. At least make a start in that direction by thinking love and not supporting war through underground actions sugared over with pious platitudes and fallacious attitudes. Truth hits home and hurts, and like the first patriarchs and their guilt, we need God to justify it through the thunderous silence of churches, synagogues, mosques and civic institutions.
I could drive this point home but it would only drive people away, while the meat industry and the war machine drive to the bank. I was a meat-eater most of my life, as well as a egg and milk stealer. Now I eat fruit for its high energy octane and love brain change. There are a multitude of shades along this continuum. Anything along the road to free animals helps.
Like I said, there’s much more to be said on this treacherous atrocity. The whole context I have done my best to describe is at the Love Government and the short summary at the Love Army. Behind it all is the Love Bower of our original condition. If we have no idea of that starting point, it will be well nigh impossible to understand the dynamics involved or to stop war, including the war on Russia.
I’m probably becoming a persona non grata, grating on the nerves of loyalists. If enough of you write to Saker, complaining that I’m hijacking the site and violating some written or unwritten rule, you might succeed in getting me banned. If just seeing my name before skipping past is not enough, maybe I could change my name. How about Sis 93? But would a different name change the game?
@ Dennis
Have no fear of banishment – although lesser patrons have gone away. Many of us come here to hear your words of wisdom and art; in fact you are the anchor that holds the café community, with no disrespect to other valuable contributors. Anyway, who could resist the CiC of the invisible Love Army?
Dennis relax and branch out…your baseball metaphor poem had creative charge and rhythmic lyricism. So I am willing to put up with your usual rant and wait patiently for the jewels that occasionally are expelled along with the gush of hot air.
Rant is OK…raving is the office of the prophet and the earth needs more of these. So Chill, baby, chill ( light tease here–no insult intended ) and bless the moderators and all those lower level interns or disappointed bureaucrats who are assigned to pore through this seditiously suspicious site and try to make serious sense of it all. repeat quickly several times : “serious sense of several seditiously suspicious sites” then take a deep breath . better? OK maybe song
below will do it.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=anticipation+song&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSPG
You can call me whatever you want, Doctor Exchange Love.
Sorry I’m getting as giddy as a kiddie. Overworked and underpaid. But still unswayed.
Now if you meant on the telephone, you’ve got to be clearer, to approach your meaning slightly nearer.
And don’t be like these clowns who spend 8 minutes misinterpreting and talking past each other in different terms of Hoo’s being on first and Watt’s being on second:
https://youtu.be/kTcRRaXV-fg
Well, that’s “base” consciousness for you!
Now, I know it’s your not your fault.
(We know your’e against war, too.)
And want God to call a thunderous halt,
To killing and Killery and Ukie artillery.
And a’that and a’that, a ma’s a man for a’that,
And K. C. (or is it Mighty Casey??) is comin’ to bat!
Sorry. The Giants and the Cubs were on the radio, and suddenly nines and threes and twenty seven diverted me from my errand at the 7-11.
I turfed my one-eyed idiot several years ago.
Now my dumb-ass sport radio’s got to go!
Leave it on KUSC Los Angeles, classical.
Or risk October masonic mind control, fanatical!
How’s anyone supposed to remain halfway sane?
Hurricanes, false flags, Clinton and Tim Kaine!
Oh my God, Andy Cooper sucked the Big One!
But I digress, Dennis. What was your question?
Bro 93
I just came from the previous Cafe and read again your comment : /moveable-feast-cafe-2016-10-07-2/comment-page-1/#comment-281968 , and have the idea on what if you and our astrologist (mundanomaniac) would have the time and joy to calculate the date of election in US at 2016.10.08 Tuesday (day of Mars)
hi ioan
got to do something more on that event
while in the moment I can offer this
on the Donald
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2016/03/the-donald-in-front-of-triumph.html
Gee ioan, you really put me on the spot. My left brain calculator tells me this election is already bought, but my right brain tells me not to get distraught, that the real spiritual battle has yet to be fought.
Somehow, I get the feeling that Lady and the Trump will not be quite as warm and fuzzy as Lady and the Tramp: https://youtu.be/kbEIpQwUdSQ
For sure, the crowd is unruly and will erupt with gleeful anti MSM vengeance if Trump lifts his leg and pisses on the bitch!
And I, for one hope that will dissolve the witch into a black puddle of greasy urine, kinda like this:
https://youtu.be/aopdD9Cu-So
And after Trump’s dissing Toto finishes her off with his own pissing.
But my anticipation is only hopeful wishing, with no numerical substantiation.
I’m afraid I am dependent on the Magnificent Mundo for additional readings on the Wicked Witch of the West’s Horoscope before I can take a stab at any election related numerology/gematria.
It takes two to tangle, and if I jump the gun with only one, I’m pretty sure my analysis could end up in a mangle.
However, my preliminary indications are that there’s a revolt brewing out west, with truckers smashing Highway Patrol squad cars, barreling through police barricades and practicing other and overt forms of violent civil disobedience.
Because the numbers point to this Song, with nearly 6 million You Tube hits:
https://youtu.be/Sd5ZLJWQmss
presaging something like the Iraq War in the Homeland of Insecurity.
(Gematria Proof: Election Day is 11/ 8/ 2016 1+1+8 +2+ 1 + 6= 19 1+ 9 = 10
Inauguration Day is 1/20/2017 1+ 2 + 2 + 1 +7 = 13 1+3 + 4
TEN-FOUR Is code for “understood” in cb (citizens band) radio communications among truckers.
The Movie with the most truckers is CONVOY, which the song comes from.
Yep. There may be more when Mundo provides more celestial readings on cackling hag with 666 false flags in her handbag, but I am at least able to definitively give these general parameters “by the numbers”, at this time.
Further details depend on Mundo’s maniacal astrocyclical divinations.
And further revelation of Hitlery’s long history of crime.
I don’t endorse everything about Trump by any means, but when he tells her “Cause you’d be in jail.” my enthusiasm is hard to curtail.
ERGO, I would like to hear America collectively say on November 9, 2016 “Book her, Dono!”
https://youtu.be/pWB710kTEDY
Killery: “You’ve got nothing on me, Trump.”
DONO: “I’ve got you, Clinton. Seven counts, Murder One.”
DONO to Obomber: “Tell your friends in Chicago ‘The deal is off….permanently.’
“There’s a plane over there leaving for Riyadh in 7 minutes. Be on it.”
Thanks Bro 93, one way or another we shall find out.
Thanks mundo !
Listen to this tripe from the UN’s grand high poobah:
“U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon, meanwhile, urged the Security Council to refer the situation in Syria to the International Criminal Court for investigation of possible war crimes…..
“Earlier, in an interview with the German broadcaster Deutsche Welle, Ban blamed Assad for the bloodshed, saying more than 300,000 people have been killed since the start of the war because of his “failure of leadership.” He also referenced previous conflicts in which the international community failed to halt mass killings.
“We should have prevented Srebrenica. We should have prevented the Rwandan genocide. In Aleppo, we’re doing our utmost,” he said. “The future of one person, like President Assad, should not block this process.” ”
If there was any doubt about whose pocket Ban Ki-moon is in, this should erase it.
Doctors Without Borders begs for access to treat Aleppo’s wounded
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/doctors-without-borders-begs-for-access-to-treat-aleppo-s-wounded-1.3799053
And the CIA infested Doctors Without Borders all of a sudden needs access to just Head-chopper riddled eastern Aleppo. Very suspicious. Where in Syria were DWB the last 5 years?
Now that he’s on his way out,he wants to fully suck up to the West hoping for a “golden parachute” somewhere. But the hyena may not be aware that a referral by the UNSC of Syria or Russia to the court would be vetoed in a “heartbeat”. And as for the ICC neither Russia or Syria (and the US) recognize it. So its powerless to do anything.I do think though the “war crimes” in Syria “do” need to go before a court. The war crimes of funding,arming,and supporting terrorists against the government of Syria. A clear war crime under international law and the UN Charter.I’d like to see Russia or the SCO organize a War Crimes Court in which those countries leaders involved in those crimes could be indicted. And arrest warrants ordered for them.With the mountains of evidence of Western and Gulf leaders involvement up to their eyeballs in the sponsoring of terrorism. That Court would be busy for years just on them alone.
Good to see you back UB1. You disappeared for a few days.
Perhaps one day, in a multi polar world, their will be genuine courts for trying/convicting of war crimes, or more specifically the crime of aggression even if through proxies.
@ Sanctuary One
Now that the headchoppers reign is coming to and end, the humanitarian brigades are coming out of the woodwork to show on what side they are on.
It reminds me of the times when the Ukies were corralled in the cauldrons and about to face surrender or slaughter and everyone, including President Putin, were scurrying about to get cease fires. I understand Mr Putin intervened to prevent a bloodbath and he should be respected for that. I just hope he does not fall for it now and saves the headchoppers from their deserved punishment.
Deutsche Welle is like ZDF (zionistische deutsche fernsehen) and consortium.
ioan missing and Uncle Bob has been absent without leave for a few days. Hope they come back.
I have been thinking about the contradictory nature of the duality democracy-capitalism, the proclaimed paragon of western imperial power.
You see, democracy (rule by the people, and I refrain from adding “for the people” because it is consistently ignored in western democracies) carries the logical presumption of a principle of equality among the citizens to have any meaning at all; that is, there is no democracy if some people can vote while others can’t vote, where some are slaves and others are masters, where some people’s votes are given more weight than others, and so on.
Given the necessity of the presumption of equality to give meaning to “democracy”, it becomes obvious that the so called first democracy of Athens could not qualify as one. However, to give credence to the myth of being a democracy, it is argued that the slaves of Athens were not citizens, therefore not part of the demos. There were are pre-requisites for citizenship but is not necessary to go further to establish the non-democratic nature of the Athenian state.
Likewise, the first state in the modern era to adopt a democratic form of government (which presupposes a republican system of elected ruler, as against an hereditary one as in monarchies), the USA, cannot claim to be a democracy by simply naming itself a republic. Like Athens, it was a slave-owning society, women couldn’t vote, etc.
The common factor in the disqualification of Athens and USA from being democracies results from a simple term: inequality. Those societies denied to some, or even most, people the right to participate in the selection or election of the rulers, that is, their rights (privileges) were unequal.
The inequality seen in these two examples of “democracies” is clear-cut but it serves to establish the axiomatic rule: democracy demands equality among the people; and the following is the corollary: democracy is incompatible with capitalism. One demands equality, the other abhors it.
It’s true. Neither are what they’re cracked up to be.
They pretend to co-exist, but won’t or can’t, in reality.
I had a good night’s sleep and my prayers were answered. All quiet on the eastern front. Wind velocity 5 mph. Nothing truly explosive in the news. But the Cafe wasn’t open!
Take nothing for granted. Neither your funny money nor your “democratic” vote. Even sex seems to be in doubt:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/10/11/engage-in-sex-not-war-paul-craig-roberts/
But it seems like Dennis is on a roll,
Winning over Roberts, heart and soul.
Putin-Erdogan press conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvUyDpl-eqk
I don’t know. Somehow, both VVP & Lavrov body language were like “castanas en el fuego”. Even for the pragmatic veterans from the RF, it looks kind of uncomfortable. And Erdo’s eyes almost not blinking, like an UFO visit from a far away galaxy…
Not sure, how to read that whole situation in all the geopolitics with the psychological overtones…
Any hints from the fellow-readers? ;)
Well, the site has been out of access all they in Europe, at least where I live UTC+1.
Now I have access but tried to answer to Babushka and it says the function is no able.
Perhaps this is why you are missing some regulars here who perhaps live in Eutope and are not able neithet to read and less to comment.
Anyway, some newcomers have come with new and interesting “food gor thought”, as I have noticed you usually say, as this comrade Arnie with an interesting post with a book and lot of links so as to one read all the autum.
Well, to see if thus posr goes through….
thesaker.is site has had system issues since Oct 1. The system runs fine for severals days and then has an access problem. We believe the problem has been identified. Please read saker’s notice /important-possible-disruptions-of-the-saker-blog-in-the-next-couple-of-days/ mod-hs
Yes, I read Saker,s warning but the disruptions have going through morw than a couple of days and for many hours, even a whole day as happened today.
I agree with another commenter in that something great is undergoing, for what I have read this morning in other sites, that perhaps a total cutt off of this site, at least in Europe, where the events could well cause more response from the people, in order we could not communicate each other.
I live in the states Fatima (I love that name!), and I have had lots of problems with the site as well.
I suppose one day though we might find ourselves banned. I shudder to think, and hope its just my paranoia.
K
just wondrin if contributors need reminding Saker has a mibbit channel where people can post-chat, or indeed if it has a facility to act as a reserve or accessible “holding centre” for comments etc, interaction, then when the www goes back up it feeds into main website????
Why are US reserves of crude oil much higher than the official figures?
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/The-Billion-Barrel-Oil-Swindle-80-Of-US-Oil-Reserves-Are-Unaccounted-For.html
I don’t know what to believe and who in the oil business. What is sure, is that it’s being used as a weapon for decades, recently against Russia. What about the world debt ? The total amount of debt in the world is at a record 153 trillion $ … who will ever pay that back ? isn’t the war the only answer, the only way out ? Seeing the great cracks between the “pardners” would they come to a deal ? I have my doubts.
One thing is certain: No one who needed to run an Empire would admit that they were out of oil.
hi Saker – is there anything you can tell us about Armenia -there was a report of iskander missiles seen there (delivered to the Armenians) and also i read that Russia has combined air defense systems.
seems that Russia is quietly strengthening them – sending some message to Azerbaijan and Turkey
https://www.rt.com/news/326869-russia-armenia-airdefense-caucasus/
https://southfront.org/armenia-receives-first-russia-made-iskander-m-missiles/
also i was watching a doco on the mig-25 which spoke of a bomber variant , it used a system that sounded a lot like the SVP-24 back in the 80’s but it dropped its bombs 50km from its target,
do you have any info on this – i haven’t found much on the net about it
thanks
thanks
I’ve never done acid but with a cafe like this, who needs it? Uncle Timothy should be here to enjoy the crack.
Abbott and Costello took me back to my formative years when I huddled with the Honeymooners. The honeymoon of childhood didn’t last long.
If a ball was a base, would it be round or square?
I fear that I come here to get my fix but like a junkie I always need another. This vineyard aims to stop the war on Russia, not fix me. It’s a quandry that I can’t seem to fix. I project my addiction onto Russia, thinking she can’t seem to fix herself either.
I feel like a rant that can’t. A poet who doesn’t know it. Little Bo Peep who lost her sheep. Little Boy Blue who can’t find his understanding shoe and doesn’t know what to do.
I put my trust in Love and am forever pulling petals off a flower: she loves me, she loves me not. Probably started with my mother and seems to be ending with my long lost lover.
Ships are all around me, passing in the night. I don’t know who they are or what they’re doing. My Good Ship Lollipop gets lost in the fog. I blow my horn but they keep right on going. Sometimes the clouds clear and I see the North Star. Oh, sweet lover, where are you tonight?
It wouldn’t be so bad if I could die at home. But I don’t know where home is anymore. Apologies for using this cafe as a half-way home. The songs, poems, music, dancing, rants and raves and the brave Russians give me hope that I will not be lost at sea.
I feel like Russia, fighting off the enemy in me. I’ve got more complexes that a multi-plex cinema kaleidoscope. Can’t seem to shake that Timothy Leary complex despite my drug-free complexion. My mind has more loose ends than I can shake a stick at, but I love her still.
Oh, love, where are you tonight? Have you gone to the Thunderbird Cafe and left me all alone at home? I miss you when you’re gone. This time you’ve been gone far too long. Don’t you know I am addicted to you and need you for my fix?
It’s all projection they say but projection from what? I project that there is a source that can fill me up but why does that source dry up on me? Don’t let me die two feet from the well.
Oh, sorry for the tears in the beer like the guys in masthead mirror. Now for those caught in the war, there’s real tears. Always back to war; can’t forget the war room was the first building up. This cafe is an afterthought. I must remember that I’ve added a bower out of desperation. I’m a desperado on desolation row when I’m not with you.
I wish the war was as simple as: Simon says stop. I think it is but I can’t get a fix on it. To Russia with love, I say, as I send my thoughts to her. In the Love Army thought is the coach for his nine base players playing the Jitterbug Rag for my jitterbug blues. Oh, Bro is gonna’ call me silly.
I feel better for getting things off my chest in a checkerboard chant like this. I don’t know where it comes from or where it goes when depression comes steppin’ in. I don’t even want to fix it anymore even if I could. I can’t remember where this started but it’s been going on long enough. Maybe I’m addicted to my own thoughts which seem to have no end.
If I could only fix them so I would feel good all the time. I feel pretty good now thanks to you but I could feel a whole lot better. I’m not asking for ecstasy but I’d take it if it came. I’d even take relief from this under the table grief.
Russia, dear, can you give us a Pax Russiana? If the roof falls in how I wish I was there with you rather than here with me. You make me feel safe but please be careful as you walk; don’t be fooled by that snake-eyed talk.
I’m staring at this machine as my stomach says it’s time to eat. I think they call this a stream of consciousness. I’m not dreaming and I’m not streaming an alien so I must be in some version of reality but oh, love, where will you be tonight?
Man, your rambling streams are infectious, little Lovetococcous strains affecting so many hearts and brains.
And you leave these little Loveabys and meandering streams for the worn out warriors and Cafe lingerers, like me, to sweeten our dreams.
I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve decided to cut down on the down and dirty and deal some more refined face cards and tens, straight up.
Except when dealing directly with rats and troll perverts that hang out under bridges, doing no honor to the land of the Leprechaun.
This Cafe is a rough one, what with the power going out for hours at a time. But the regulars are faithful and sit there with the lights off and their laptops without recharging juice, composing comments in their heads, waiting to type fast, when the lights flicker on…..
And that new Arnie guy. I bet he’s got some books, films and documentaries for the Bolshoi Book and Cinema Bistro, or whatever they choose to call it.
I can’t wait. But I will.
Oh, by the way, Leary, I don’t do drugs. It’s just your influence, not Uncle timothy’s.. You’re the Pied Piper of the naturally high. And I do appreciate that nightly Loveaby! It mellows me, and when I get a bit too fast and loose, it IS just the perfect alibi.
Super piece Dennis, cheers.
Dear Learry, you remember me in some cases at my mother, who has her up’s and down’s every day. It consumes a lot of spiritual energy by trying to put her on the right stream. I have myself also such moments, – as Bro said, it is infectious indeed – and my heart rambles like a kicked ball. But having no other choice, I have to make our living in one way or another. Life is not an easy task, man has some responsibilities which cannot wait. Taking time for poetry is almost during sleepless nights but that’s my life.
Following on my recent musingd on the contradictory nature of the duality democracy-capitalism, I checked the current world inequality rankings to have an empirical tool to compare with the countries’ democratic credentials. My hypothesis is that high inequality correlates positively with democratic deficit.
However, unlike the inequality index (Gini) which can give a fairly realistic view of a country’s distribution of its wealth and income among the population, democracy cannot be measured, it’s almost a subjective concept. North Korea can legitimately claim to be democratic because its idea of democracy is consistent with their value-system. On the opposite pole, the USA can also claim to be democratic although in this case we can argue that the prevailing political situation conflicts with the ideology that sustains it. In other words, NK is truthful to its values while the USA is not.
I came across a “democratic index” published by The Economist, which is one of the most reliable sources of biased information, made even more suspect when reporting of “Lybia experiencing the greatest [democratic] gains among the countries studied (165) in 1912” after Nato’s destruction of the most stable, prosperous and egalitarian country in Africa. How can you take that b.s. artist rag seriously? Anyway, in the absence of anything else, and only for the sake of our hypothesis, we’ll use that report but of course, subject to your judicious scepticism.
It so happens that, generally speaking, the most egalitatian countries in the world are in Europe but there are differences there. Typically, Western Europe has been since 1950s at least a fairly balanced region but the Nordic countries stood out as the ones with the lowest Gini coefficient (around 0.25 on a scale from 0 to 1). At the other end (around 0.35) stand UK, Portugal, Spain and Italy. I think you can derive some firm conclusions: of the four former fascist countries in WE, three are in this group, while the UK’s inclusion could be argued on the same grounds, that is, a pervasive capitalist aristocratic elite wedded to the political class. Also note the UK’s steady progression in the inequality scale from 0.26 in the 1970s to 0.345 in 2010, which is a general trend elsewhere in WE but not as steep as the Uk’s.
Eastern Europe is a different kettle of fish. Coming from a socialist system, one would expect their Gini score to be fairly low and it so happens, the great exception being, also expected, Russia at 0.42. If you compare that score with that of the other EE countris, you can imagine the massive plunder of the Russian wealth that took place with the introduction of free for all capitalist democracy. If you want to find something in common with the USA, it is their placings in the rankins of inequality.
Elsewhere in the world the picture speaks volumes. The American continent, with the exception of Canada (which is more European-like but getting worse too) reflects its colonial past of crude inequality between the slave-owning masters and the rest. You may be surprised to know that they (IMF, CIA, World Bank) don’t give a ranking to Cuba and you are free to guess why; perhaps, like the ratio of doctors to population, Cuba would come first in the world.
Similar picture obtains in Africa, the only bright spot being the Horn of Africa and nearby Egypt, plus Algeria, while Libya is ignored because its pre-2011 score would shame the West’s presumptions. Asia is a mixed bag but China is tainted in red (having a similar score to the USA (about 0.35) but painted pink) to stand out as the country with the highest inequality in that continent, which should be taken with a big grain of salt although we know the growing billionaire class there. But they don’t show the scores for Bahrein, Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia and I wonder why. I’m almost sure they knew I would make the obvious connection between the most despotic rulers with the highest inequality and prove my point that democratic deficit goes hand in hand with wealth in few hands.
So far we can fairly make a preliminary finding that Europe, having the lowest inequality scores, are more likely than not to have the least democratic deficit. Let’s see what the Economist says.
The first ten spots are filled by the Nordic countries (Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Finland in that order) then Switzerland and Holland, with the interlopers New Zealand, Australia and Canada who insist on getting mixed up with Europe. The next pack of ten is headed by Luxembourg followed by Austria, Ireland, Germany, Malta, UK, Czechia (my renaming) with two outsiders; Uruguay and Mauritius.
And there you are, and my point made in this uncientific survey: there is a positive correlation between equality and democracy. If you want to have equality (equal distribution of wealth and income) and have more democracy – because they go together – you must get rid of capitalism.
“If you want to have equality (equal distribution of wealth and income) and have more democracy – because they go together – you must get rid of capitalism.”
Uncle Bob hinted at something along those lines here /russia-moves-to-protect-her-arctic-interests/comment-page-1/#comment-133396. His thesis began that “Western oligarchs” could be controlled by the fear of “people turning communist” – he saw that as a “small multi-polar moment”. Bringing that up-to-date in the lack of a “communistic people fear” by the now Capitalist oligarchs everywhere, he considered the mere competitive balance of these (seemingly) competitive groups as the only hope of getting rid of all of them, from wherever they may hail. However, the method by which these Capitalist oligarchal groups would benevolently relinquish their power (and reduce inequality) was left unconsidered in the short comment. Uncle Bob saw the worst outcome as a single group of Capitalist Oligarchs with world-wide control rather than multiple groups with regional control. I see little difference.
Of course others here are in lock-step with the Capitalist Oligarchs having not a care for their brothers – here’s a quote from Bro /china-and-russia-prepare-for-a-hot-war-with-eurangloland/comment-page-1/#comment-236398:
“How many Chinese may have taken the hard road of a few short years of such work provided by your friends at Apple to climb out of poverty? About half a billion so far.”
Having said that, things can change. Once upon a time Uncle Bob said /russia-moves-to-protect-her-arctic-interests/comment-page-1/#comment-133345
“It really doesn’t matter “who” is running in the US.It only matters who the elite will permit to be elected.”
;-)
That’s why I have not once emphasized the need for a ideology, which can or has the obligation to bring clear ideas, put down on paper, being like a flag for all to see. If this ideology does not appear, it may be because those who could do it, are interested in rather other way (something else in new clothes)
You are so sweet and diplomatic ioan!
Sometimes scuffles occur in cafe’s. If there’s beer on tap, in Australia or Alaska that can be the signal for chairs and fists to start flying.
This anon mouse is actually an Empire rat trying to work the left side of the Vineyard against the right. No middle way for him!
He’s been on this same rant about Apple and China for 6 months or so. That’s it. Nothing more.
Early on his one and only one program brain reminded me so much of the baned Ewan, that that is what I called him, until his whining about it got him sympathy.
Any way, there is nooooo love in this rat so far. Certainly not for Russia or China. H eopenly espouses unipolarity, in fact.
As I pointed out at the close of the last cafe /moveable-feast-cafe-2016-10-07-2/comment-page-1/#comment-283204 where I hypothesize his surname: Bates
So when he creeps under the doorway to try to spread the same old submission to unipolarity disease, in your kind polite way, I will understand, and not be upset with your hospitality if you warmly recognize this mouse or rat, thusly:
“Master Bates! Master Bates! Have you anything NEW to offer the Cafe today? Or will it be the “same old, same old” sterile ideological word jerking on behalf of your unipolarity fantasies?”
Back to work. No friends at Apple. That’s his favorite fantasy. Gets his rocks off regularly with that one!
But I would like to share a story about an illegal immigrant from Guatemala, who called me Monday to thank me. It’s heart warming story I’ll try get to soon. There’s so much NEW every day. But the oligarchy and their dupes run the same old same old tired formulas over and over and over again. They are not hard to spot.
Polarity (of any shape) doesn’y matter if you’re chained to a bench 16 hours each day or paying 90% of income on rent.
Keep counting.
ioan,
it seems you & bro have a direct brain link for understaning?
Apologies – I cannot understand the sweetness of your comment here, if that is what it is (as determined by bro)..
Would it be bothersome for you to re-state in a clearer meaning?
OK guys, let’s put some fresh water in your reciprocal tit for tat. First : My comment above was neither sweet nor salted. It was a clear statement on which I am standing firmly in my personal view regarding the ideology (which is missing as a path to be showed for the people who want to have a change in the system – a new system). Second : Although I think I do know who you are Anonymous, I don’t want to enter in any negative polemics which are not beneficial to this site and moreover to this Cafe. It’s not my style. I think you have been stuck with that term and comment by Bro, but whatever your view on that special case, it’s time to move on. I also know, that we , all three, had a very good friend here earlier and that is Martin. I also know, that you are not a Merkel style socialist as Bro has replied earlier but an anti-capitalist. That being said, we have much more in common than we may think, the only difference is the perspective and angle. Why should someone find out the acne on the penis of a flea ?
Appreciate your clarification ioan.
The point is central, it is not a special case – it is the general case – Foxconn is a simple example and must not be “unstuck”.
Neither is the difference one of perspective and angle – it is one of respect (or lack of) for the disenfranchised and abused of this planet.
Yes, Martin did change his perspective based on my conversations (sometimes heated) with him. Therefore, Bro must continue to be tatted for everyone of his tits. The only time to move on is when something has been sorted out.
Here’s where money, power, white & black wizards leads to https://file.wikileaks.org/file/thailand-crown-prince-dog-birthday/index.html
Russia orders all officials to fly home any relatives living abroad, as tensions mount over the prospect of a global war
Russian officials have been ‘told to bring relatives home to the Motherland’
Failure to act will put promotion chances at risk, according to local reports
Comes amid rapidly deteriorating relations between Russia and the West
By JULIAN ROBINSON FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 08:53, 12 October 2016 | UPDATED: 10:21, 12 October 2016
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833941/Russia-orders-officials-fly-home-relatives-living-abroad-tensions-mount-prospect-global-war.html#ixzz4MrbfbrEQ
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maybe all those seeking “shelter” should get a visa quick…………….after Scotts post re dummy airflights in the middle east..?
‘No faith in American objectivity’: Russia cries foul after fresh arrests of its citizens in US
https://www.rt.com/politics/362220-no-trust-in-american-objectiveness/
“It’s been a long time since we lost any trust in the unbiasedness and objectivity of US justice. Unfortunately we have a great number of examples in which arrests of Russian citizens had been made without any grounds and with violations of the law, including abduction on the territory of third countries,” Dolgov told the newspaper.
“The court processes in these cases were politicized from the beginning to the end. [Konstantin] Yaroshenko’s and [Viktor] Bout’s cases are vivid examples of such approach.”
Likely the Russians got solid intelligence the zionazis intended to arrest Russian nationals on spurious charges as part of their psywar strategy.
British tabloids go into WWIII frenzy over reported pull-out of Russian officials’ relatives
https://www.rt.com/news/362511-russian-officials-tabloids-war/
Those zio-gays and their adolescent psywar games.
it might have originated by these scaremongers whatdoesitmean falsifiers…
“October 12, 2016
Russian Military Takes Control Of Nation As All Children Overseas Ordered Home Immediately
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
A grave new Security Council (SC) report circulating in the Kremlin today says that President Putin this morning signed a decree authorizing the Ministry of Defense (MoD) to begin implementing their wartime state management system that gives full power to the Russian military of the entire nation, and has further ordered that all Russian children presently overseas be brought home immediately before the “outbreak of total war”. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]”……………
The threats of war are very scary
Just like the thoughts of our Leary
But thanks to you, our JJ friend
We are now used to such a trend
By keeping us so well informed
By keeping us “en garde” like hornet.
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Maybe we should all start to practise remote viewing to see what we can come up with…….sighs.
Take care ol’ pal.
JJ, hands on that you misunderstood the poem, you know very well that I do appreciate your news-blocks. I know how much time is needed to search, find and copy all that stuff. Yes, we are used to have you here with precious information. You are like the sugar in the Tea. Hopefully I did not offended you in any way, my friend. If I did, with you or someone else, than apologize to you and everyone for that if happened.
ioan, absolutely there was no offence percieved or recieved in any way-ol’ pal is sincere term of endearment , I would not have put that if not meant……..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just is so difficult to be aware of what is the truth these days in all this mass media isn’t it…….our nerves are on hypersensitivity, well mine are anyways.!
Julian Assange Special: Do Wikileaks have the email that’ll put Clinton in Prison? (EP 376)
Published on Aug 6, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2FfrNGcO3g
What’s that sound going round? The one so near and dear to my ear.
Ultimate vibration ushering from heaven
Staff of life, bread without leaven
Cornerstone of being’s ground
Formless form in all around
Born in silence, bred in stillness
Holy of Holies, hid within us
Holy Grail, Fountain of Youth
Mother of Spirit, Father of Light
I dream of you day and night
When I heard of my heritage
I started on my pilgrimage
Listening for you among the trees
Summer air, cool mountain breeze
Hearing the music of your spheres
In child’s laugh, womam’s tears
The chidren’s band is on a roll
A thousand voices take my soul
To where it knows its journey’s goal
The sweetest sound I ever heard
Surpassed every name and every word
Dennis, this poem is one of your best !!! you gotta have a good muse for this one, many thanks !
spirit in holy synchnonicity
approaching beyond continents
like light still crossing infinity
to light up the sentiments
between agression and sympathy
emotional tissues vibrate
the flowers dismissing the misery
are illuminating the fate
and this weeks divine flowers in all their richness:
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2016/10/10_9.html
Many greetings to your wife
Good to have her on your side
She’s your best friend in your life
One like her, you can’t find world wide
Though the stars have chosen her
For you as the loveliest good girl
To live together all your days
“In My Love” as the Lord says
Lavrov when asked by CNN about Trump’s comments and Pussy riot –
“There’s so many pussies around your presidential campaign, I prefer not to comment”
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/10/12/sot-amanpour-sergey-lavrov-us-election-pussies.cnn/video/playlists/amanpour/
Did Russia just instruct her officials in the US to send their families home? I’d like to go with them but I don’t have a ticket.
I had a dream last night about a cat and a machete. I was supposed to cut the cat’s head off but it was too ghoulish. Have my nine lives run out or am I picked off first base and can’t make it home?
I wake up every couple of hours in the night thinking of you. I come here first thing in the morning. I tried to forget you but it just wouldn’t do. Maybe the end is near and I have to internet while it’s up before it goes down for good. Oh, mama, it ain’t looking good.
Behind every cloud they say is a silver lining. It must come from a light that is shining. It’s cloudy and cool right now but the fog will burn off like yesterday and the day before that. War is beginning to give me what they used to call shell shock and what they now call post-traumatic stress.
I stopped at the war room on my way here. No name has caused a fuss over Uncle Bob, sort of like Who’s on First. I like him or her upon first acquaintance. Came from Zero Hedge and seems like a maverick like the likes of us. Love at first sight but you can never tell by that first kiss.
I don’t have much to say but I’ll say it anyway. I wish I were an analyst with such skill that I could take away his license to kill. But I’m not. I can’t take too much analysis or I get paralysis. Glad someone can do it though. I think I’m getting senile and it’s been going on for awhile.
That Paul Craig Roberts article made me smile, the one on women shocked by Trump’s locker room talk. Nothing like what goes on in women’s knockers. When I was young and innocent, a jocker asked me why bees buzz. I said because they flap their wings fast. He said: you’d buzz too if you had your honey between your legs. I went to confession over hearing that.
Sex is where it’s at but after running the gamut of angry and cunning women, I cry “this woman of mine is driving me to tears; she’s so crazy I won’t touch another one for years.” And I haven’t. But my lover came to me last night in my mind. If she had brought her body along it might have been better but I don’t mind. I could feel her sweet breath on my neck when the breeze blew past the tarp around my outside bed.
I like to free associate which they now call disassociate. I’ve added a love bower to the outside outback of this vineyard, big enough to hold a small community of lovers, like a hamlet tucked into a natural valley, which I can almost see from the saker’s perch on the masthead above. It’s another Eden with a food forest nearby.
I can easily walk from there to here. Last night I heard a creepy-crawlie passing by; they never bother me though, protected as I am by the towering mother oak by my side. Once when I was sleeping in the woods I heard a large animal breathing heavy pass by with a cub; maybe a bear or cougar but again I was protected by a mighty father oak.
So it is now with the mighty Love Army. I feel secure from the boogie-men passing by in the night like the devil “seeking whom he may devour.” Invisible to all but the child who saw the naked emperor. Speaking of which, I heard the empire is on fire with the fire of love. It’s tough love from one the Love Army’s probes. Count Khazar and Lady MacZ had the pants scared off them, thinking of the impossibility of their bunker being breached. Reminds me of PCR’s sexexpose and Dylan’s “throw your panties overboard.” The reverse of war is raw.
Love is never far from my mind and sex is not far behind. To contain all that naked and raw energy I need a Love Bower flower surrounded by a Love Army power. It’s too raw to be saw which is where this cafe assumes its role as midwife to acceptable conversation for the general ear. It’s not communal sex yet but it’s getting there.
I think I’m picking up on the thoughts of you all here. I’ve never been like this before. I was always shy and quiet. I thought I was all right, that is until I fell in love with you. The Love Army’s first rule is to think love thoughts. Love appears to be an imp of mind-reading and heart-peeping. I tried to hang with Joy but she’s too jumping and pumping with joy naturally. Love fits me more comfortably.
“I wake up every morning with that womam in my bed; people keep telling me she gone to my head.” I’m going to blame it on the Love Bower who arrived like bees to a flower, uninvited. Don’t blame me; I’m just along for the ride. You create this vineyard out of nothing but it’s nice to have you on my side. You and you only are my joy and my pride.
There are Many Americans who Knew that the American Establishment Unelected and Unconstitutional and Undemocratic Plutocratic Shadow Ruling Regime would Maliciously Slander Donald Trump, because they want their Corrupt Candidate Hillary Clinton to become President, so that they can Continue to Exploit, Display their Contempt for, and Commit Injustices on American People and on Foreigners.
The Evidence shows beyond any doubt that the American Unelected and Unconstitutional and Undemocratic Establishment Plutocratic Shadow Ruling Regime is using the Bush and Clinton Dynastic Dictatorships, and they are using Much of the Mainstream Media, and Some of smaller so called independent media, and Paid Trolls, and some People who work in the Entertainment Industry People, and the Evidence suggests that Donald Trump was Never a Puppet of the Establishment.
This is because if Donald Trump was a Puppet of the Establishment, then he would have Not been Maliciously Slandered and his inappropriate comments would have been Covered Up, and this would include any crimes he may have committed, along with any allegations of criminal wrongdoing would Not have been announced just before the Election.
The Reason for this is that if Donald Trump had committed crimes, then the Clintons who are Already Guilty of Numerous Crimes and Treasons, would Always be Guilty of Much More than Donald Trump could be, and this is what Most of the American People think that Donald Trump is Always less guilty than the Clintons on Most or even on All things.
This is Why the Establishment Knows that it could be risky under certain circumstances for them to Slander Donald Trump, because they Know that overall the Clintons are Far Worse, and this criminal allegation was claimed after Donald Trump told the Debate audience of Bill Clinton’s Crimes against women, and that Donald Trump said that he believes that there is More than enough Evidence for a Jury to Convict Hillary Clinton of Espionage, and that he believes that a Fair and Honest Judge would sentence her to Prison for her Crimes.
The Establishment Knows that they have the one sided Bribed and Corrupt Puppet Treasonous Fifth Columnist Mainstream Media to Slander and Misrepresent Donald Trump, and to Cover Up any scrutiny of the Scandals, Crimes, and Incompetence of Clintons.
The Establishment thinks that they can Maliciously Slander and Misrepresent Donald Trump to help Hillary Clinton who is their Puppet and Plutocratic Partner Candidate, because the Clintons are among the Foremost Plutocrats of America, and there are Investigative Journalists who say that the Clinton Foundation has over 100 Billion Dollars, even though the Clintons falsely claim that it only has 3 Billion Dollars.
It could be that if the Clintons and their Establishment Plutocratic Partners do Slander and Misrepresent Donald Trump, and if Donald Trump manages to become President, then it will Not be good for America’s Image in the World, but the Plutocrats do Not care about America, because they Only care about Themselves, and Slander and Misrepresentation by the Bribed and Corrupt Treasonous Fifth Columnist Media is Needed to try to disguise the Electronic Vote Rigging, and make it seem to have been a honest election, while the World Knows of the Genuine Numerous Crimes of the Clintons.
It is Necessary to be Fair to Many in the Entertainment Industry, because there is Money there along with both concealed or unconcealed Film Recording and Sound Recording devices, along with Human Nature.
This is because some but Not all of them may have been manipulated or pressured by peer pressure to say certain things to Unethically advance their Careers, and it could be that at times, Intimidation, Blackmail, or Bribery may be used to have some of them say certain things, and while these People can endorse anyone they want, there are Voters who like to have other People’s opinions and who like to obtain information from other Sources to help them to decide who they will Vote for at the Election.
There is an allegation that was made by an anonymous Person that Donald Trump did something wrong at http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/high-profile-casey-anthony-attorney-now-representing-jane-doe-in-trump-rape-lawsuit/ .
We were Not there and we do Not know if those People were actually in the same location as is claimed, and even if those People were in the same location as it is alleged, then we do Not know what really happened or what did not happen.
This is why there could be some People who think that they could assume that every aspect of the allegations of that anonymous Person are true, and how does it Compare to the Clintons’ Known Crimes.
Perhaps these People might imagine that Once Upon a Time in a distant Galaxy that a there is a Planet in the Andromeda Galaxy where certain Plutocrats gave their subjects the Illusion of a Democracy.
That Planet had Senators who were the Puppets of the Plutocrats because the Plutocrats would Only allow those who they had a Dirt File on them to become Senators, and the same Applied for Many of their Journalists so that the Plutocrats could Control them and be the Secret Rulers of that Planet, and where Most of their Senators were Unprincipled, because they are similar to Bill Clinton and his Good Friend Jeffrey Epstein in some ways, and Bill Clinton has been Many times to Jeffrey Epstein’s Island and on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane named the Lolita Express, and those Senators of Andromeda are referred to as the Unprincipled Senators of Andromeda or USA at http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html .
This is why there are Many Americans who think that even if some of the things they say of Donald Trump are true, then he is better than Hillary Clinton who has done Far Worse with Libya, Syria, Honduras, and the other Countries, where Many People have been killed and has suffered to satisfy her Evil Desires.
We Know that People can be Threatened, Blackmailed, or Bribed to bring a false accusation against another Person.
I think that Donald Trump is innocent of the allegations that were mentioned, because WikiLeaks revealed that Hillary Clinton wanted Donald Trump to become the Republican Party nominee, because she thought that she could Slander him to Usurp the Presidency, and if Donald Trump was a deliberate plant of the Plutocrats to help elect Hillary Clinton, then Hillary Clinton would Not have to hope for that or to ask for Fifth Columnist Media Manipulation for that, because the Clintons were friends with Donald Trump and Bill Clinton played golf with Donald Trump, although after the things that Donald Trump said to the Clintons at the recent Debate, then this is why the Clintons arranged for Donald Trump to be Slandered the next day with a false accusation, because the Clintons do Not want to go to Court to answer for their Crimes.
The Clintons want to be Co Presidents again, even though they were Co Presidents during the Bill Clinton Administration and their Puppet Obama Administration, and this is because the Clintons wish to do Evil with Trade Deals that will Cost Americans jobs, and they want More Americans in Prisons to work for them and other Plutocrats and it is Not for the Money, because they have More than Enough Money, but the Only Enjoyment they can obtain is that which comes because of the Evil they do and the Suffering that they can bring on Americans and Foreigners.
The Clintons will take Money so that People think that Money is the motives, but Doing Evil and causing Suffering are the Real Motives, and this is Why both Major Political Parties like Citizens United, and while Citizens United is a Constitutionally Legal matter, and Politicians can accept that Money, but there are Many Voters who want as Much Public Funding for Elections as is wanted to make any Citizens United Money meaningless, and that they will Only Vote for Candidates who Receive Public Funding or small Donations, but done Strictly Anonymously.
They did this in Libya, and Honduras, and they are doing it in Syria, and Clinton and Obama Created and Funds ISIS, and have Slandered the Democratically Elected Legitimate President and the Parliament of Syria, and we can see what the Clintons by means of their Puppet Barack Obama have done to Syria and continue to do to Syria at https://www.google.com.au/search?q=syrian+war&biw=1097&bih=562&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjj65On5dXPAhUEjFQKHYnHDAoQ_AUIBygC .
America is Slandering Russia and Syria who are fighting against the Terrorists that America placed in Syria, because Hillary Clinton was Pleased with Saudi Arabia’s Evil Plans for Syria, and Hillary Clinton and her Puppet Barack Obama who Secretly has Hundreds of Millions of Dollars do Not do this for Primarily for Money, but because they Deplorably Immensely Enjoy doing Evil, and there are People who think that the American Mainstream Media would show themselves to be redeemable if they help with Hillary Clinton Not becoming President, and that they do Not vote for Hillary Clinton, and there are Americans who think that they should bring a Class Action against the Fifth Columnist Corrupt Media and Journalists on Charges of Treason and Crimes Against Humanity, and these People want Anyone But Clinton for President of America.
You know folks, in Vienna is just a Festival of Culture. The main Theater has sold the tickets well in advance. But then the outrage : (and this is modern art) Vienna Festival-piece (“Your violence, our violence”) in which Christ raped a Muslim woman. First a woman with veil pulling an Austrian flag from her vagina. Then Jesus Christ will come down from his cross from a wall of cans of gasoline and raped the obvious Muslim woman on the stage. After successful copulation, Jesus wipes with the Austrian flag his penis. The message is clear : Christians and Christianity are to blame. This was a scene from the play “Your violence, our violence” from the Croatian author, theater director and director Oliver Frljić. This alleged lesson, described by the critics as “Paraphrase of terror”, in violent and primitive images, are the (Christian) Europeans to blame on migrants rush, where Christianity is of course represented by the lowest niveau of a garbage..
Just imagine the reactions if this piece would have taken place in a Muslim country, the woman being a christian and the Christ being Mohamed. Are these people sane ? what are they doing with the culture ? and the spectators applauded…. how can you change this world with such individuals, and the’re saying that they are cultured people…oh my God ! Waiter ! please give something strong till I’m not doing something wrong. In such circumstances, there is no other way than WAR ! no, not because I want it, but because they want it !, like a bread for breakfast, cause the crazy world is growing fast.
No, they aren’t sane. Its just that type of trash that passes for “culture” in the West today.In all my life I don’t think I’ve had more revulsion for modern “culture”,than I do today. Just think our Grandparents though “Jazz” was horrible. And our Parents considered “rock and roll” the devil’s music. Those were “nothing” compared to the garbage today.I can easily understand “youth” wanting to “play with matches”,we all did the same.But there is a “big difference” between playing with a “match” and a container of napalm.
When will all of you Drumpf-pseudo-anti-zionists fighters wake up and face the snake in the eye…?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmX6DOBPLDQ
” In a major monograph Hull10 concluded that hypnosis is primarily a state of heightened suggestibility and has the characteristics of habit in that it becomes increasingly easy for a subject to enter the state of hypnosis after he has once done it.”
“Trance is commonly induced in situations where the subject is motivated a priori to cooperate with the hypnotist, usually to obtain relief from suffering, to contribute to a scientific study, or (as in a stage performance) to become a center of attraction. Almost all information currently available about hypnosis has been derived from such situations, and this fact must be kept in mind when one attempts to apply the data theoretically to situations different from these.”
Source: your evil CIA: https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol4no1/html/v04i1a05p_0001.htm
I believe the US is “going back to the well” once again. And has prepared another false flag “Tonkin Gulf” situation. They are accusing the Houthi rebels in Yemen of “twice” attacking a US Navy ship (which the Houthi deny).The US says the Houthi missiles had “missed” in both attacks on the ship.The same missiles lets remember that destroyed another US Navy ship “leased” to the UAE for action against the Houthi. And has hit several other targets in the sea near there.But suddenly,they aren’t able to hit this “exceptional” ship. I think there may be a more “devious” reason behind these claims of attack. The US stooge Saudi Arabia,and their mini-stooge Gulf “allies”,are getting hurt by the Houthi missiles.The Saudis don’t have the ability to destroy them.So here comes “Uncle Sam” in his “righteous rage” over a US ship being attacked. And under the “self-defense” doctrine ,they are “forced” to massively bomb the missile installations.It’s a “go to” trick the US likes to use. It fools the US public all the time.And I smell it coming back again in this case.
https://www.rt.com/usa/362550-uss-mason-missile-yemen/
When I first read the reports on that one, it had a bad smell to it.
US investigating if its ship had been attacked? US investigating to see if a Houthi controlled radar had painted the ship ect.
Either the ship was painted by radar or it wasn’t. Doesn’t require investigation.
And that coming straight after the Saudi’s targeted the funeral where many of the local leaders had gathered to pay their respects.
I disagree with Dmitry Orlov about the origins of oil – he thinks it is a fossil fuel, but agree with him about almost everything else and even Chris Martenson about exponential growth..I can’t write or give lectures on anything like their scale…both these guys are incredibly talented…but it doesn’t mean to say I agree with them – though I can’t disagree with (most) of their maths or physics…but the human race given relative freedom and safety and security – does not expand exponentially..and the oil ain’t going to run out – cos it ain’t a fossil fuel – but anyway Dmity Orlov came out with this – This week – and it is completely brilliant…
http://cluborlov.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/oopsa-world-war.html
Small extract (for those of you who can only do text message lengths – or tweet) (its a paragraph)
“One reason to be cheerful is that any plan to attack Russia is bound to become mired in bureaucracy. Battle plans are developed by mid-rank people within the US military establishment, approved and forwarded up the chain of command by higher-rank people and finally signed off on by the Pentagon’s top brass and their civilian political accomplices. The top brass and the politicians may be delusional, megalomaniacal and inadvertently suicidal, but the mid-rank people who develop the battle plans are rarely suicidal. If a particular plan has no conceivable chance of victory but is quite likely to lead to them and their families and friends becoming vaporized in a nuclear blast, they are unlikely to recommend it.”
I can’t write like that.
Tony
I live near London. I come from Lancashire. I have been retired since 2004 and am fit and healthy and live at home with my wife and family (including my 6 month old Grandson).
I would like The World to Come to Peace – and I still think it is possible – before I die (of which I have no immediate plans)…
I was always crap at cricket -and I can’t write..but I would like to live long enough to play football with my Grandson in my back garden and my local park…
So would prefer it if You Russians don’t nuke London First.
If you have a full time job, and a full time family, I don’t honestly think it is possible to find out what is actually going on in the world. You simply do not have either the energy or the time – unless your job is to find out what is going on in the world, and can make a living from publishing your results, by writing books or making documentaries. Finding a way to publish your results in incredibly difficult, and you are almost certainly going to have to make some compromises – if you want to eat.
The World is controlled by those who have the Power and an Extremely large amount of money. They control the information you are exposed to.
I am convinced that this also applies to the vast majority of politicians who have not actually yet been corrupted by bribery or blackmail.
They are exposed to the same propaganda as the rest of us. A politician has all kinds of problems (many local) that he has to deal with. They are going to take up the vast majority of his time.
He is simply not going to have either the energy or independence, to be able to make any really objective analysis and assessment, and if he doesn’t conform to what is his current “Groupthink” then he is going to be ostracised. sidelined, and probably lose his employment.
We are drowning in a sea of lies, but I suspect that many of those promoting the lies and propaganda, actually believe them – and they are promoting them innocently – and with the best of intent.
Political Propaganda, I think is very close to a religious cult. It is Faith Based, not Evidence based.
Who has the time to actually examine the Evidence, when they are being drowned with work, and propaganda – which they trust to be fact?
Even arguing with real hard evidence, has very little if any effect on changing such people’s minds.
The personal effect on them..if they have a conscience is much too dangerous for them at a personal level to stand up and state.
If they do so, they are extremely likely to lose their job, and possibly very much more.
That is the world we live in.
A world of lies and evil…and very few people have the courage to stand up to the lies and evil.
Craig Murray is one person who does. Whilst I disagree with him, on all kind of political matters, I really respect him, for his courage to stand out from the crowd – even the highest levels of Government, against the most appalling Evil.
Its people like him, that actually give the human race a chance of a future.
Tony
Very well written with excellent points. Thanks.
@ Tony
You raise very important points, namely common people’s incapacity to see reality beyond the fog of lies and indoctrination because it is more comfortable and safer to live in a cocoon made up of false belief and apathy, if not complicity. The trouble is that the cocoon will burst one day and expose them to the inevitable horrors of war or environmental calamity or both for good measure. You need not be a prophet or a seer or an intellectual to comprehend that, although I admit one would need courage, resolve and some effort, maybe a good dose of conscience and concern for humanity as a whole, if not, for one’s kin, to overcome immediate self-interest and gratification.
As to politicians, you are too kind to that class. They are simultaneously the source and cause of humanity’s ills, they are the agents of the power elite hidden behind the mask of “democracy”. Their loyalty is not to the people they are supposed to represent but to the party that enforces obedience and discipline at the pain of non-endorsement. And, of course, political appointments opens news vistas and opportunities for social advancement, financial gain and power.
Politicians are the mediators and moderators that lull people’s perceptions of reality by creating the appearance of legitimacy to a rotten system of political domination. The periodic electoral circus (and football) is nothing else than a recreation of the rituals of Roman emperors and modern dictators to keep the proles happily stupid.
I could go on for ever but that would be boring. At least, sheep have a valid excuse.
I forgot to say “politicians are the harlots of the power elite.”
For more, follow the link:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/politicians
Politicians are my bete noire and pet hate. Horson Wells’s too:
“It doesn’t take ten years of study, you don’t need to go to the University, to find out that this is a damned good world gone wrong. Gone wrong, because it is being monkeyed with by people too greedy and mean and wrong-hearted altogether to do the right thing by our common world. They’ve grabbed it and they won’t let go. They might lose their importance; they might lose their pull. Everywhere it’s the same. Beware of the men you make your masters. Beware of the men you trust.
We’ve only got to be clear-headed to sing the same song and play the same game all over the world, we common men. We don’t want Power monkeyed with, we don’t want Work and Goods monkeyed with, and, above all, we don’t want Money monkeyed with. That’s the elements of politics everywhere. When these things go wrong, we go wrong. That’s how people begin to feel it and see it in America. That’s how we feel it here — when we look into our minds. That’s what common people feel everywhere.
That’s what our brother whites — “poor whites” they call them — in those towns in South Carolina are fighting for now. Fighting our battle. Why aren’t we with them? We speak the same language; we share the same blood. Who has been keeping us apart from them for a hundred and fifty-odd years? Ruling classes. Politicians. Dear old flag and all that stuff!
Our school-books never tell us a word about the American common man; and his school-books never tell him a word about us. They flutter flags between us to keep us apart. Split us up for a century and a half because of some fuss about taxing tea. And what are our wonderful Labour and Socialist and Communist leaders doing to change that? What are they doing to unite us English-speaking common men together and give us our plain desire? Are they doing anything more for us than the land barons and the factory barons and the money barons? Not a bit of it! These labour leaders of to-day mean to be lords to-morrow. They are just a fresh set of dishonest trustees. Look at these twenty-odd platforms here! Mark their needless contradictions! Their marvellous differences on minor issues. ‘Manoeuvres!’ ‘Intrigue.’ ‘Personalities.’
‘Monkeying.’ ‘Don’t trust him, trust me!’ All of them at it. Mark how we common men are distracted, how we are set hunting first after one red herring and then after another, for the want of simple, honest interpretation…”
― H.G. Wells, The Holy Terror
How actual these words are, nothing has changed only on the surface.
There is some good people in the US but when I see shit like this, I would just like to see the US nuked out of existence. Total blockade of Yemen, people starving, Saudi’s hitting population centers, and now the united snakes is lobbing cruise missiles in.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-missiles-idUSKCN12C294
The U.S. military launched cruise missile strikes on Thursday to knock out three coastal radar sites in areas of Yemen controlled by Iran-aligned Houthi forces, retaliating after failed missile attacks this week on a U.S. Navy destroyer, U.S. officials said.
The strikes, authorized by President Barack Obama, represent Washington’s first direct military action against suspected Houthi-controlled targets in Yemen’s conflict.
You know Peter, I feel the same. Do the US have a UN mandate for this ? is there China and Russia crying out ?
The US got its start through treason (the barracks officer’s coup) and genocide (of the native tribes) which immediately followed. They now feel a warm deja vu, massacring the natives of the Middle East with a 10,000:1 advantage.
I was about to launch a tirade on war and capitalism (they feed on each other) to tie in with other comments on inequality and democracy (and politicians) in this café when I recalled a recent article I read and I’m reprinting below, which brings together the same issues although my original intention was to demonstrate the necessity of war to sustain capitalism.
By Humberto Gomes Sequeira – California
War is the praxis of the maniac desires of wealth and power of the bankers, weapons merchants, legal drug traders, generals, politicians and popes. These classes of human primates are possessed by an ego made of ignorance, avarice and hate that they feed with the illusion of superiority, divine privilege and an opulent and sterile lifestyle.
The war agitators have contaminated the veins of society’s consciousness with their brutality and immorality which they inherited from their class predecessors: The liars and thieves who built their feudal estate with the blood and bones of the Native American Indian Nations and African slaves. This contamination has eroded truth, honesty, rationality and compassion as the human pillars of societys Government.
War continues to be the inhuman method by which the plutocracy confronts its psychopathy and fear of freedom, equality and justice for all. This fear of being dethroned and ceasing to be a superior class privileged by God is disguised by its political parties as free elections in which the participants are the forces of good and evil to confuse the electorate about the real problem that they need to confront and resolve. In reality, said elections are the way in which the plutocracy fights against the rest of society to keep its class status of predator of its own species that dominates society. The result of this fight continues to be the enrichment of the plutocracy and its lackeys and impoverishment of the rest of society. The inequality that is the base of the free elections is the condition of the plutocracy’s existence and its imposition is the end of a Government that has ceased to be from the people, by the people and for the people.
The Government now is the Chief Executive Officer that manages the business called country according to the plutocracy’s war and profits agenda. The corruption of the Government and its appropriation by the plutocracy has produced the conversion of society into a commodity and its dehumanization. Dehumanizing society through the practice of war and capitalism the plutocracy has dehumanized itself and become a fierce predator of its own species.
This predator who has appropriated society’s means of production and pushed it to the financial precipice it created in 2008 is the real cause of war, dispossession, impoverishment, hunger and illness that society needs to eradicate like a cancerous cell from its body. However, the cancer has spread to the consciousness of the Government because the politicians to whom the electorate has entrusted their lives have exchanged truth and honesty for the plutocracy’s values, brutality and immorality, which are the constitution of its domination. This is the reason the cancer continues to live in the body of society in a state of malignancy that produces suffering only. This is the truth represented by the impoverishment of the majority of society that the propaganda machine managed by the plutocracy’s democratic and republican lackeys is trying to suppress with a circus without bread, once again.
The Russians never came. And McCarthyism served only as a weapon of State terror that destroyed the lives of designated suspects by terrorized witnesses.
Dear Anonymous, I’ve read with great interest your writings, very very good. Thanks for sharing !!
On the Road Again!
I’m bookin’ another trip. I’m outta here!
On the Road Again
Willie Nelson
Just can’t wait to get on the road again
The life I love is makin’ music with my friends
And I can’t wait to get on the road again
On the road again
Goin’ places that I’ve never been
Seein’ things that I may never see again,
And I can’t wait to get on the road again.
On the road again.
Like a band of gypsies we go down the highway
We’re the best of friends
Insisting that the world be turnin’ our way
And our way
Is on the road again
Just can’t wait to get on the road again
The life I love is makin’ music with my friends
And I can’t wait to get on the road again.
On the road again
Like a band of gypsies we go down the highway
We’re the best of friends
Insisting that the world be turnin’ our way
And our way
Is on the road again.
Just can’t wait to get on the road again
The life I love is makin’ music with my friends
And I can’t wait to get on the road again
And I can’t wait to get on the road again.
https://youtu.be/Gdlyi5mckg0
Speaking of Bookings, I hope the punch line of this comment goes viral:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-10-10/comment-page-1/#comment-283524
“Book Her, Dono!”
I’ll be gone. But “I’ll be back!”:
https://youtu.be/-YEG9DgRHhA
“I’m tired of the same old faces!” Ahnold says at the end. I concur.
So book ‘er. Dono. And throw away the key.
And make that wicked witch a melting memory!
You bring up good old memories, now I have to watch again “The Lady and the Trump” Walt Disney cartoon…having a taste of it. The kid in me is happy to watch it !!
Not a word from Dennis Leary about Dylan getting the Nobel Prize. I am getting worried…..
Well I quote Robert Zimmerman’s work quite a bit, as well. But only the early stuff, as I know zero past the early seventies.
Dennis is aware that RZ is probably in the web of the AZ spiders for some time now. He’s commented on that awareness before, but credits Zimmerman/Dylan with getting his thinking and feeling going over a long time frame.
For sure, artists have always been targeted for recruitment/co-option by oligarchies and Empires. As a result many die young or weaken with age.In the end, who can you rely on?? : Yourself! If you don’t weaken, that is.
are the two guys at the top
melting grief with alcohol sop
drowning their sorrow in beer –
can it be just nuclear fear?
or is there at home a wife
looking for a better life
then tough cookies on her
with that dear sirs concur!
marriages are made in heaven
only not eleven or seven
Mundo’ll give you the score
just knock on heavens door!
Great stuff sir (or lady) anonymous ! You’re a great talent, please take on a name and join the Society.
I’m afraid I’ve been sucked into something that I must correct. It’s difficult to identify but as a start I’ll put it this way: I’ve fallen into an imbalance of rhetoric over reason, personality over principle and metaphor over meaning. If any preference should be given it should be to the latter over the former.
What I am realizing about myself I see reflected in the world. I read the latest articles. It seems the US is becoming ever more dysfunctional and therefore heading for some kind of collapse. Russia on the other hand is holding a steady course, preventing a catastrophe while giving the empire time to complete its own destruction.
The hidden controlling factor is the Khazar Zionists who appear to be ditching the Anglos and infiltrating Russia and the multi-polars. They will probably engineer a middle course between global nuclear disaster and controlled nuclear demolition that will damage both Anglos and Russians, putting themselves into the position of saviors and financiers of the rebuilding.
As for myself, I think I’m going to make greater efforts to make my reason, principle and meaning more direct rather than engaging with rhetoric, personality and metaphor. I come from quite a different background than most of us here which leaves me at a disadvantage in some respects. But I have my own gifts to contribute as is the case with all of us.
We share the desire to stop the war on Russia. If the US empire collapses that will stop one kind of war upon Russia, the overt one. But another war on Russia will continue more covertly, the one by the Khazar Zionists, who have an innate hatred and desire for revenge upon Anglos (Russians lean in that direction) and peoples from the North who destroyed their own empire.
These thoughts are preliminary but I think I’m on the right track. The Khazar Zionists are masters at getting me off track. Fortunately, I have this vineyard to give me reality checks when I need them.
” I’ve fallen into an imbalance of rhetoric over reason, personality over principle and metaphor over meaning. If any preference should be given it should be to the latter over the former.”
Denis, is that an American or Californian or very personal Leary kind of musing.
I’ve never read controlled philosophical stuff like your’s (and Bro’s) and …. and this one I call it reflection at the brink, in a personal way – “each day might be your last the healthy you might be” – I do it since my better 35 of my 74 years.
You discribe the interplay of both truths eternity and now, or God and I, or right and left brain, of in and out of Syria and the poem the two sister-republics and your, my, uniqueness, composed by your fathers stirring 77 years befor now ..
As I studied Astrology and JUNG for 35 years now, I must say: you are first to me, puting the simple truth into word, kind of way some of us, or gladly a lot of us are experiencing
kind of meandering up and down the horizon of unconsciousness …
bringing up colours from the personal depth … and
looking down on oneself with the clearness of humble heavenly light –
a pocket of “individuation” in emersion out of unconscious depth
in it’s own right and partly inviolableness – a folly for ratio.
and a folly for the Martins of this world …
glad you found it – pocket of counscious realizing self, the unconscious superior observer in the room of yours.
But like you we all are crossed by the suffering of our fellow humans
and consolated by the example of Vladimir Vladimirovich and his team
within the magnificent russian people and by the new male, born in Donbass and Syria.
I will soon come with stuff to 11/8 the dangerous woman and the prayer in our heart.
Cheers
Ps: Bro called mundo “magnificent”, but I have to confess magnificent is less he
but magnificent is the stuff he is in service for, hoping for further being honored with some more work to
Many thanks. You gave me the best reading I’ve ever received, not that I deserve it necessarily. It takes one to know one; so I send this complement right back to you. I will pour over this reading to plumb its depths.
Everyone here is precious to me as revealers of truth and reservoirs of love, both of those whether evaluated as positive or negative. I include those who do not comment yet. (btw, what is the difference between views, visits and hits? I think Saker said we get 50,000 hits per day; what does that mean?)
I value this site because it’s a community that reveals myself to myself. I usually come here with a fear that I’m going to learn something that I don’t want to know. Among my variegated character traits is an inferiority complex and chronic sense of being wrong. I am also concerned about my narcissism with the need for attention.
You say your background is Jung and astrology, two highly symbolic disciplines according to my understanding. My sense is that symbols or signs are the code of road in this dispensation. But there are dangers that we can misread or abuse them, and that’s why I need to sharpen up my reason, without losing contact with the sacred.
Right now, love and war are the archetypes that I struggle with. This vineyard “sign’ owes its existence to war. That’s a realistic place to start from. I need to go further into the causes of war. Fortunately, this cafe opens a window to fields afar, far from war. The stars speak to me as friends and the unconscious seems to be the stairs to the stars. I consider the mind to be the mediator in the middle according to the popular formula of “body, mind and spirit.” If you don’t mind my saying so, I think we here certainly have spirit and also physical and virtual bodies but our minds need improved education beyond our expertise in war.
We are as strong as our weakest link. I feel the need to strengthen that weak link in me. I was raised on faith which has become more problematic the older I get. Leaps of faith are necessary but they can be harmful if reason is not fully employed. I don’t do it, but all my thoughts are prefaced with IMO; I’d say IMHO but it wouldn’t be true and my pride would vociferously object.
Thanks for the encouragement; I need it. As I travel down the road of reason, if folks are honest, they might tell me I’m full of you know what. The truth often hurts before it heals. People today are experiencing a great deal of hurt, buried deep in the unconscious, which Jung explored. Wars, domestic and foreign, come out of that hurt. By positioning itself as an opponent of war, this vineyard has made a mostly unconscious decision to heal the hurt of the world.
I thank my lucky stars that they led me here.
Dennis and Mundanomaniac I must say that both of you far exceed the expectation of the cafe. Thank you both both for your contribution our world conscious … mod-hs
Beautiful lively dancing at a Lebanese wedding in western Canada
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=373_1476403228
Thank you for your very kind words and for your even finer work. Thanks also to Anonymous below for the dancing video. As mundanomaniac would appreciate, this dance is a Jungian symbol for this vineyard: full of life and newly married with the promise of bringing forth more life. Oh, Saker, look what you have done: unleashed a force of love that will wash away an empire. I don’t know if the Orthodox faith would make you a saint for this vineyard or for your forthcoming Patristic thesis. It won’t happen until you’ve passed on the mantle so don’t worry about spiritual pride or a false humility slide. Cheers.
Dennis, I think you are right in what you say that we have several bodies, invisible except for the physical body. Very few people is active only in the physical body (they don’t feel that they are a living being that has a body, they identify completely with the body). Their suffering is limited to physical problems.
The absolute majority has also activated the mind body, ie their feelings and thinking, and they see themselves as a sentient being within a physical body. Their suffering includes emotional issues, sorrow and desires, hankering and losses and all those things.
Then there is a small percent that is beginning to activate their spirit body. They have another sort of sufferings. They have more or less left physical and emotional desires behind, they are becoming less selfish and they feel a strong responsibility for easing the pain of their fellow beings, of all species. They are not so afraid of disease and death or poverty, but they are afraid of not doing enough for others, afraid of causing pain. They have a intuitive understanding of how much there is to know, and of the thousands of ways things can go wrong, so while the other two groups “happily” go through life without much hesitation, they themselves feel unqualified and unsure, with lack of self esteem, because they see the bigger picture (intuitively or consciously). You can call it the “submarine in the desert” -syndrom.
I believe that many of the viisitors here at the cafe are persons whose spirit body is being activated, always searching for kindred spirits. Kind and helpful words and deeds help activating the spirit body in ourselves and others. Lies, violence and degradation hinders it. That is why the dark powers work so hard to degrade us all, to humiliate and divide, to poison our minds.
The more people that awakens their spirit (or take birth already awakened, which happens more and more every year), the harder the dark powers have to fight to break us. After having tried to divide humanity into groups fighting each other, like male/female, black/white, oriental/occidental, straight/gay, science/intuition and so on, aside from all religious or political ideologies, we can now expect to be divided between “old-fashioned emotionalists” and “spiritually awakened”. If you look closely in media, you will start to see how this is done.
With old-fashioned emotionalists, I refer to the lower emotions, like envy, fear, hate, selfish desires. Ordinary politicians always play on those strings. What is rare in our world is spiritually awakened leaders, who feel genuine responsibility for humanity. They are not always perfect, and they make mistakes, but it is easy to see how they are different from the “emotionalist politicians”.
Gandhi, Mandela and Kennedy had many of the characteristics of the spiritually awakened leader. And this reply from Putin is quite telling:
Q: “Mr Putin, are you concerned about the approval rates for you?”
A: “No. I am concerned about doing things right.”
This is a rare comment of serious sobriety.
It fits the shifting mood extremely well, as in the next café, especially the comment on Dylan with attached link, here:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-10-14/comment-page-1/#comment-283998
I think you hit the head on the nail, Tegularius. I have seen the “Submarine in the desert-syndrome” as you call it,in many of the best persons I have met, and always wondered why the people who do good often lack self confidence.
“After having tried to divide humanity into groups fighting each other, like male/female, black/white, oriental/occidental, straight/gay, science/intuition and so on, aside from all religious or political ideologies, we can now expect to be divided between “old-fashioned emotionalists” and “spiritually awakened”. If you look closely in media, you will start to see how this is done.”
Well put, I have been thinking about that, too. The hatred towards Russia seems to be just that: emotionality versus spiritual intelligence. Didn’t Lavrov say the other day that Washington shows signs of emotional breakdown.
@ Dennis
“The hidden controlling factor is the Khazar Zionists who appear to be ditching the Anglos and infiltrating Russia and the multi-polars. They will probably engineer a middle course between global nuclear disaster and controlled nuclear demolition that will damage both Anglos and Russians, putting themselves into the position of saviours and financiers of the rebuilding.”
Very perspicacious of you to make that observation (you are very observant after all !), a trick played out historically on many occasions, the last big one when the Tribe bankers were banking on Hitler to march East instead of West except that Stalin predicted the move and spoiled the game with the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact for temporary relief. One could also apply the same analogy to US interventions in Europe in 1917 and 1943, that is, stepping in when the belligerents were exhausted and the side to join was clear. More recently, Nixon made a rapprochement with China hoping the two socialist states would come to substantial blows (they had a little eyeball to eyeball). England had used it numerous times during its interferences in continental affairs to prevent the emergence of a strong rival, particularly during the Napoleonic Wars when its only ally was Portugal. I wonder who influenced Bonaparte to embark on that disastrous expedition to Moscow? And Hitler’s too in 1941 when with a more judicious policy, he could have consolidate his western empire before invading Britain. The glib explanation that that’s how dictators act is not too convincing. The most notorious dictator, the insane Stalin, did not act like that, otherwise Soviet tanks would have rolled on to the Atlantic.
That reminds me of a history lesson when I was ten. The king and his brother came to blows for the throne and a big battle was ensued, a frequent affair in medieval Europe. The teacher asked if anyone knew how that came about (history books only tell events and dates) and yours truly was the only pupil to put his hand up and suggested that, if the brothers had died in the battle (kings then were at the head of their armies) then their uncle (who was an eminence grise) would become king, qui bono, hence he might have instigated the king’s brother to challenge for the crown. That was not written anywhere, I made it up on the spot.
I’m not giving you more details otherwise you might think I am an unrealized genius.
Concise summary of the global strategic situation, from LaRouche Pac:
Don’t Be Bullied by Obama and British Lies and Empty Threats
“President Barack Obama, on behalf of the British System, is engaging in a Big Lie campaign, threatening war against Russia and China. With the French Hollande government in tow, Obama is making gestures about military intervention into Syria, about bringing Russia before the International Criminal Court in The Hague for war crimes in Aleppo, and similar bluster.
But the reality is that this British-directed campaign of lies and threats is driven by a total fear and panic on their part, and they have no capacity to actually deliver on their threats or to prove their lies if they are called out.
The British are going mad over the prospect of a total loss of power, as their trans-Atlantic financial system is set to blow up. It has now been openly admitted that the European Central Bank covered up the bankruptcy of Deutsche Bank when it conducted the so-called stress tests late last year. Non-existent assets, derived from sales that never happened, were booked as capital reserves by Deutsche Bank to hide the fact that they are doomed, unless they are put through a total restructuring, with their 46 trillion euros in derivatives cancelled, and a return to traditional German retail banking. HSBC, the flagship of the City of London’s offshore dope empire, put out an emergency warning on Wednesday of an imminent blowout of the trans-Atlantic stock market bubble.
Former NATO secretary general Rasmussen called on European states to begin a massive arms buildup to confront Russian threats, which is a total fraud. The European states are bankrupt, and there is already a growing backlash in Germany and elsewhere over the suggestion of new sanctions against Russia.
In Syria, the bottom line is that the US, Britain, France and the Gulf States have spent billions of dollars, building a hardcore Islamic State and Al Qaeda terrorist apparatus to overthrow the Assad government, and Vladimir Putin stepped in and ruined their scheme. Now, the Syrian Army, with Russian support, is on the verge of crushing those terrorist networks in Aleppo. And so the French, the British and the Obama Administration are all accusing Putin and Russia of war crimes in Syria, while they engage in outright crimes against humanity in Yemen. The Obama Administration is now threatening a direct military intervention there to bolster the pathetic Saudis, which would only further the list of crimes against humanity carried out by Obama.
To cover up their own panic and actual terror over the looming crash of their entire system, the British are carrying out a vicious campaign to frighten and demoralize the American people, principally by turning the US presidential elections into a pornographic nightmare, through the controlled media.
There are real issues, as well, that are causing panic among the American people. First and foremost, the collapse of the Obamacare program, anticipated from the outset by Lyndon LaRouche, has terrified a vast majority of Americans who find themselves facing an impossible situation of 50 percent boosts in annual healthcare premiums and dramatic cuts in services. Even former President Bill Clinton recently told a rally in Michigan that Obamacare is a disaster: “You’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care, and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half and it’s the craziest thing in the world.”
The American people have every right to be angry, but not to be intimidated or bullied by a pack of liars, led by President Obama. The American people need to hear the truth: The entire British-Saudi system, which owns President Barack Obama, is finished, starting with their bankrupt financial empire. There are readily available solutions, starting with the reinstatement of Glass Steagall and then the immediate launching of a Hamiltonian recovery, utilizing the methods spelled out in Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton’s Reports to the US Congress on manufacturing, credit and the national bank. These principles were revived in Lyndon LaRouche’s Four Cardinal Laws. They are ready to be implemented right now.
To restore the fighting spirit that led to the recent dramatic victory in the JASTA fight, which delivered a devastating blow to the heart of the Anglo-Saudi empire of terrorism, the American people need to be told laugh at the Obama-British lies, and to get on with the serious business of building a post-British empire world of infinite opportunities and progress. Russia, China, India and other leading nations are already moving in this direction, and it’s time for the United States to get in on the future.”
I didn’t expect to hear from you while on your road trip. I’m relieved because I was beginning to experience Withdrawal 93 Syndrome. As usual, you have your finger on the pulse of everything important that moves; no doubt much of it from your contacts among the lumberjacks. Please keep me informed as you just did even if it delays that deal of lifetime. But then I forget that you’re the master of when to pick and choose and when to bet, call, hold or fold. I send much true care to you and your road code ware. Hit the road, Jack, but you’d better be back no worse the wear.
Since, from what I am ware, it’s about the second time you broadcast here a summary coming from the LaRouche Pac movement, from which I had not the slighlest idea of apart from having heard Daniel Stulin giving the gñoor to some of their members in their programs about Illuminaty conspiracy theories, I took the time, quite a bit, btw, for reading all the entry Wikipedia has on this organization.
And, well, even admitting that I could agree in some of the tasks to be done
with them, definitively, their ways are not those which will bring peace and prosperity in any way to planrt Earth, and is far for the True Care, True Love you always are talking.
Instead resembles more a ver violent far
right sect which, spite having taking over of words like “solidarity”, ” workers party/associations” to name some of their subgroups when they have attacked real unions in the US ), what is clear is thar they are clearly anti-communists and anti labour organization.
You see, the stuff does not sound well at all, especially their suppossed link with harassment, and violent attacks against adversaries or people who made reports on them, several cases of suicide committed by new or former members but especially I found very disturbing a suggested possible link with the assasination of Olof Palm.
Of couse this is whst Wilipedia says but does not seem a good way to start changing the world into a better place.
Finally, curiously, or not so, I find in the reading common places with the discourse of some regulars here from some time, say the references to F.William Engdahl and Webster Trapley, both former members of the movement.
Also could find a coincidence in the nsistence of some hear in referring to those souls still lost in the individual emtionalism and still not awake as “sheeple” ( a term which, btw, I find extremely rud to a brother human being ) in counterposition to the “golden souls” who are part of the movement.
Also, if it were not to enough enlightment for a reading they have an organ dedicates to poetry called “Fidelio” ( being its former director or responsible one of those dead or suicided in strange circunstances ).
And, to finish by today, amongst other weird claims, for whatever reason, they claim that classical music must be played or heared at 440Hz instead of 430Hz it is played now, or viceversa, do kot remember mow well, only remembered you some time ago posting about thusical frecuencies
Since, from what I am ware, it’s about the second time you broadcast here a summary coming from the LaRouche Pac movement, from which I had not the slighlest idea of apart from having heard Daniel Stulin giving the gñoor to some of their members in their programs about Illuminaty conspiracy theories, I took the time, quite a bit, btw, for reading all the entry Wikipedia has on this organization.
And, well, even admitting that I could agree in some of the tasks to be done
with them, definitively, their ways are not those which will bring peace and prosperity in any way to planrt Earth, and is far for the True Care, True Love you always are talking.
Instead resembles more a ver violent far
right sect which, spite having taking over of words like “solidarity”, ” workers party/associations” to name some of their subgroups when they have attacked real unions in the US ), what is clear is thar they are clearly anti-communists and anti labour organization.
You see, the stuff does not sound well at all, especially their suppossed link with harassment, and violent attacks against adversaries or people who made reports on them, several cases of suicide committed by new or former members but especially I found very disturbing a suggested possible link with the assasination of Olof Palm.
Of couse this is whst Wilipedia says but does not seem a good way to start changing the world into a better place.
Finally, curiously, or not so, I find in the reading common places with the discourse of some regulars here from some time, say the references to F.William Engdahl and Webster Trapley, both former members of the movement.
Also could find a coincidence in the nsistence of some hear in referring to those souls still lost in the individual emtionalism and still not awake as “sheeple” ( a term which, btw, I find extremely rud to a brother human being ) in counterposition to the “golden souls” who are part of the movement.
Also, if it were not to enough enlightment for a reading they have an organ dedicates to poetry called “Fidelio” ( being its former director or responsible one of those dead or suicided in strange circunstances ).
And, to finish by today, amongst other weird claims, for whatever reason, they claim that classical music must be played or heared at 440Hz instead of 430Hz it is played now, or viceversa, do kot remember mow well, only remembered you some time ago posting about thusical frecuencies issue and took my attention, but, really, it was the less dangerous I have read there, only curious enough in what is related to coincidences, do not you think?
The entry from Wikipedia includes accussations from different sources of anti-semitism, homophobia and anti-
feminism amongst others ( still have to read the link related to AIDS of what I have not get even a clue.
But it’s enough for today since it’s very late here, and my nerve strangled at my cervical level spin hurts of posting with this terrible device, since my computer was left out of working last week-s. Related to this, only to add that this organization are in favour of the development/use of electronic weappons which can, for example, achieve to get one person or electhronic devices as phones ( or computers ) unable from distance……
Illuminating yes it is.
Well, since in the second channel of Spanish tv they were broadcasting a documentary ob Bin Laden where they ssid that he left from SA to S.Sudan in the times when The National Islamic Front was therw in charge and where he funded several enterprises to produce weapons, explosives and all the other stuff they are using against us in their War of Terror ( the correct name for the supposed War on Terror ) , I just remembered anothet strange and weird
thing about LaRouche Pac movement I read in Wikipedia and is thst they, preciselly support this National Islamic Front in South Sudan. Also related to this that at some time its members were contacted by former OSS counterintelligence agents or dirigents
as a result , some group or groups of this organization received military trainning.
Also, forgot to mention that when any member was identified as betraying the cause in any way, or does not achieve its share of fundraising, was object of ego-stripping in front of the others.
Only add this because I can remember at least two former members of this commenters community who were in some way ego-stripped subtly or not so subtly by other commenters here, even when they have already gone time ago…
Also remember a little detail of only significance for me and is that the organization uses to make their members working hifts of 16 hours for low wages…..perhaps it could has the same significance it has for me for anyone else….and so I quote it. In any case, nothing to do with finishing with exploitation ) of others by some in the top….
I better link the entry from Wikipedia in case my memory fails me and quoted something wrong. Take your own conclussions:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaRouche_movement
I would dig a lot deeper than Wikipedia for the truth. Unless you are content with fool’s gold.
But the Cafe has moved on, and is about to close before we can get to the bottom of very much even there, or probably even the next one.
Having known of them for 38 years, including many of the factional fights, etc that exist in ANY association of human persons, I might just be able to be a reasonably valuable digging assistant for anyone wanting to go deeper into the present and past of that extremely relevant association of human beings from many countries..
At your service, Fatima!