2016/11/21 12:00:01
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‘Fake news’ & ‘post-truth’ politics? What about those Iraqi WMDs?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/367625-fake-news-post-truth-iraqi-wmds/
Great rant by Clark on the real fake “news” problem.
A good article on the origins of ‘post-truth’ and how the ground work was laid for the mass-psychosis disseminated by media:
https://www.mercatornet.com/mobile/view/the-surprising-origins-of-post-truth-and-how-it-was-spawned-by-the-liberal
Here is a very interesting new documentary about the Podesta e-mails and “Pizzagate”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNpB6c4dANo
It’s been removed.
‘DAPL protesters rely on RT, citizen journalists, as MSM goes missing in action’
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/367657-dapl-protesters-rt-journalists/
“Demonstrators protesting the Dakota Access Pipeline have resorted to social media and outside news sources to get out their message as N.Dakota police reportedly use tear gas, water cannon and concussion grenades, says political analyst Elizabeth Murray .
Political analyst Elizabeth Murray provides her view of the demonstrations and how the US media has shied away from reporting on the disturbing drama.”
The only protests the zioscum are interested are those they themselves organise. In fact, western ziomedia coverage of protests is a useful indicator of the legitimacy of the protest. The less they cover the protest the more likely it is genuine and not one their b-buds created.
escaping the fate
or is it too late
facing the trial
or eating the file
thrusting the wind
or sucking the grind
eternal boring
or suddenly soaring
each one denies
till the sucking one flies
and I fell off the night
for an evening flight
the file couldn’t be eaten
but she has been beaten
now remains the grind
taken by the wind
To extort or extort even more. That is the question…
Big Scandal: Israeli Opposition Slams Netanyahu’s Submarine Deal With Germany
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201611211047681990-isreal-submarine-deal-germany/
“According to Jaalon, there is a sufficient number of submarines in Israel and further rearmament has not been necessary. The minister demanded an inquiry into the case and the establishment of special investigation commission on the issue.
Meanwhile, Israel has already received five German submarines, “partly financed by German taxpayers,” the newspaper wrote.”
Israeli activists hang LGBT flag on chief rabbi’s office in protest at anti-gay remarks
https://www.rt.com/news/367661-lgbt-flag-israel-rabbi/
“Protesters in Jerusalem have hung a gay pride flag on the office building of the city’s chief rabbi, also drawing a rainbow on the sidewalk outside. It came after the religious leader said “homosexuality is an abomination” and “is punishable by death.”
This rabbi is saying essentially the same thing israel’s daesh mercenary proxies say. The western zio-gay media goes into hysterical convulsions every time a Muslim or Russian is the least bit critical of their sacred buggery, but try and find zio-gay media coverage of this rabbi calling for what would amount to mass executions of homosexuals.
General Store
Wood stove in the middle of the floor,
Dry goods and kidney pills for sale for
Real dollars when a dollar was a dollar
And not ten cents worth, at the store.
A guess there’s a pot brewing in back.
Here’s a buffalo nickel, I’ll take it black.
You know I want to get to Hamilton via Alexander Pope and his Essay on Man. The end of Epistle one (Verses 9 and 10) is a bit jarring, but I am considering it.
Why bother? Well because it is no time to wait and see.
Cossacks of the Mind
It is time for true Cossacks of the mind
To ride rather more aggressively and slash
The minions of Empire to pieces and grind
Them up along with their worthless cash.
Maybe I’ll finish that later. Problem is there is a lot of leftie resistance to doing anything of the sort. A lot of unclarity on Hamilton but also Hamilton’s student FDR, and his 1933 law Glass Steagall, repealed by Hitlery for her Wall Street and London Johns. FDR studied Hamilton deeply when stricken by polio as a young adult. These things have practical application TODAY, in terms of riding hard and causing disarray in the ranks of the banksters and their puppets on the right stage or left before they tie up Congress and the president elect with every manner of operation.
If FDR hadn’t moved like lightning in his first 100 days Morgan and Rockefeller and Mellon and Harriman and Prescott Bush never would have allowed him to join Stalin and crush their Aryan Eugenics boy Adolph eight years later.
First, the Forgotten Man had to be fed and gotten on his feet, for the down trodden and defeated cannot fight.
Oh, but here I answer bp and an anonymous that mistakenly thinks Glass Steagall is just some old mostrum of some old man he’s not ever supposed to listen to or comprehend, at pain of being “unpopular” in left circles and suffering their ostracism:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-18/comment-page-1/#comment-295927
Well thank you so much Anonymous for such a perfect example of how Empire Mind Control functions. I really appreciate the opportunity to debate the absolutely required prerequisite for Donald and the American people proving you wrong.
Because without bankrupting the Bubble (which Glass Steagall WILL DO) we are not serious about stopping the Empire’s War on Russia, we’re just content to kick it down the road a year or two, along with everyone else.
Now I find Pope makes me think, it is said he made Hamilton think too. But if you think any of these verses is BS, please point the offending couplet or couplets out specifically .
Then there’s some way of examining the complaint and addressing it.
I ended here, at the end of verse 8 of Epistle I, Essay on Man:
Let Earth unbalanc’d from her orbit fly,
Planets and Suns run lawless thro’ the sky,
Let ruling Angels from their spheres be hurl’d,
Being on being wreck’d, and world on world,
Heav’n’s whole foundations to their centre nod,
And Nature tremble to the throne of God:
All this dread ORDER break — for whom? for thee?
Vile worm! — oh, Madness, Pride, Impiety!
continuing on to verses IX and X to conclude Epistle I:
IX. What if the foot, ordain’d the dust to tread,
Or hand to toil, aspir’d to be the head?
What if the head, the eye, or ear repin’d
To serve mere engines to the ruling Mind?
Just as absurd, to mourn the tasks or pains
The great directing MIND of ALL ordains.
All are but parts of one stupendous whole,
Whose body, Nature is, and God the soul;
That, chang’d thro’ all, and yet in all the same,
Great in the earth, as in th’ ethereal frame,
Warms in the sun, refreshes in the breeze,
Glows in the stars, and blossoms in the trees,
Lives thro’ all life, extends thro’ all extent,
Spreads undivided, operates unspent,
Breathes in our soul, informs our mortal parts,
As full, as perfect, in a hair as heart;
As full, as perfect, in vile Man that mourns,
As the rapt Seraph that adores and burns;
To him no high, no low, no great, no small;
He fills, he bounds, connects, and equals all.
X. Cease then, nor ORDER Imperfection name:
Our proper bliss depends on what we blame.
Know thy own point: This kind, this due degree
Of blindness, weakness, Heav’n bestows on thee.
Submit — In this, or any other sphere,
Secure to be as blest as thou canst bear:
Safe in the hand of one disposing Pow’r,
Or in the natal, or the mortal hour.
All Nature is but Art, unknown to thee;
All Chance, Direction, which thou canst not see;
All Discord, Harmony, not understood;
All partial Evil, universal Good:
And, spite of Pride, in erring Reason’s spite,
One truth is clear, “Whatever IS, is RIGHT.”
I read the poem out loud slowly. I love the rhythm and rhyme. I get his love of nature but his view of man is pretty ambiguous; and why anyone needs to interject God into the beauty of nature is beyond me. I think it goes back to the Manichean, schizophrenic split between nature and super-nature. Patriarchs are addicted to playing God out of their need for power and control. Thanks for your thoughts and poetry.
Dennis, don’t be God-fearing, be God-loving. I’m pretty sure God is not patriarchal or sexed, either male or female.
Isn’t it clear that all that which bothers you is just all projection by us silly humans?
It makes me laugh. Except when it gets really bloody insane. But even then the degree of stupidity is amusing, in a dark sort of way.
In the ALL, there has to be every gradation of everything. It’s unavoidable. But it is a choice of whether to evolve or devolve, strive upwards or give up and go into free fall. It’s great to have a choice and a chance to learn a whole, whole lot. I love it!
Bro, what a smorgasbord you have presented to us today, I won’t be able to eat my dinner tonight! My mind’s Cossacks are gleefully chasing the retreating neo-liberals through the snow; it is a long way back to Washington. Wood stoves and real dollars reminds me of the circle we are on, how the life we lived before Capitalism will come again. Pity is though Bro, the Eugenics Boy and Uncle Joe both served the Masters of the Universe in their way; always a double-headed coin, heads we lose. When will this bubble pop? I wait for it with trepidation, my children will not know what hit them. Me though, I imagine myself with my wood stove and my real dollar, and I smile. Speaking of my children, will we kick this can down the road, or do we have the spiritual strength to leap onto this grenade?
Through History’s eyes
The fallen watch us with hope
When will the Knight end?
A Plan
Kick the can?
That’s no plan.
Recycle it
And a whole lot
Of other trash.
The crash of cash
And worthless debt?
I wouldn’t miss the reset
For anything! The evaporation
Of all that confabulation
That was a nightmare,
Will answer a solemn prayer!
History’s greatest fraud,
To make mere money God!
One Eye, “all seeing” what a farce!
No good, I fear for any arse.
Piss away your life to earn IT?
Screw that nonsense, burn it!
Solid credit is the only thing,
That gives paper any backing.
A farmer that improves the land,
The best producers, in most demand
In shops and factories, labs and mills,
The opportunities give me chills!
Earth rising for a colony on the moon,
Collecting Helium three, none too soon!
I may be too old to do it,
But just might live to view it
Done by your children or mine
Through a telescope, mighty fine!
But first we’ve got to pop this mess
Before the stars we can possess.
Little ones that we will wield,
When further science is revealed
And trash to treasure is converted
And ecological disaster is averted.
First step: Bankrupt the Illumi-naughty
With financial judo, complete karate:
The re-enactment of Glass-Steagall,
Jail the banksters, Freedom’s eagle
Can soar oe’r every land on this earth
And give happy generations new birth.
Step two? A national bank, end the Fed
No further bailouts for the walking dead.
And then? Well, you update Hamilton
For the passage of two hundred twelve
Years have elapsed, we will surely delve
Into the genius that flourished in him
When well he knew it was sink or swim!
Pay the debt and be country bumpkins
Importing from Britain all but pumpkins.?
“No! You’ll wait and fund the Erie Canal,
A navy, roads, mail, a national morale.
And you have no other choice, you see,
We won and you’ll be paid up, I guarantee!”
This time the debt mess will be sorted out
By cancelling gambling debts throughout
The world allowing populations to breathe
While the Illumi-naughty squirm and seethe
As development lifts billions out of their mud
And laws enforced against sucking their blood.
Finally we’ll make the most massive leap
In history to a fusion economy, ours to reap
A brilliant future fit for royalty and Czars,
In a galactic civilization, amongst the stars.
Got to go!. Dinner break!
Ah Hope, I have missed you. We are all on an Interstellar/Space Odyssey, we Starchildren yearn to return to the Heavens where we were born. We have to earn it first, for they are watching. Your poem beautifully encapsulates this hope, that we are worthy, and all this has a purpose. Not a bad afternoon’s work Brother. Enjoy your meal.
“We mortals are but shadows and dust. Shadows and dust, Maximus.” Gladiator (2000)
The dust comes from Sol’s mother, what is casting the shadow? And what is the source of the Light?
Hi Bro,
The most fervent champion of inward directed, outward transformation! Your tenacity, along with lively poetry and prose, never fails to uplift and inspire, IMO. I loved your “Book her, Dono,” piece. I see that Trump has chosen not to do that, and I can appreciate his decision. It does seem like letting that go, after the divisiveness of the election may be best right now. In future, who knows.
Top of the mornin’ to ya S113.
Appreciate any favorable review. They are scarce enough. One hand clapping is what I expect when trying to provoke thought. The other being clinched in an infuriated fist, smoke emerging from both ears….
Here’s my take on why Dono may be leaving the millions of .the butt-hurt to heal,
And not yet cracking down on their hero’s “Bonnie” Hillary and “Clyde” Bill. *
* (please note that with the right regional accent …Bee-ell the above couplet DOES rhyme…..)
/crosstalk-bullhorns-on-trumps-team/comment-page-1/#comment-296281
Bro 93
Bro’s poem
You hit the gangsters with this poem
For us is waltz, for them is requiem
The fight is blooming in your mind
With ups and downs, harsh and kind
As world events occuring in our day
You see the things and have a say
From the bottom till the highest sky
Making the gangsters run and cry
Concluding with a happy twist :
A brilliant future instead of mist
In the photo above, there is an old Cafe-shop. Maybe those people were happier than we are, not knowing what brings the future. Here is a little rant :
I have a Problem
I have a problem with the globalization : what does this mean, what does this imply, what will be the consequences for mid and much more for longer term for the entire world population and for the environment. The globalization, is already here in his first steps and its not a rosy experience for the majority. The globalization means (in my reading) first of all business, a global trade. Who are now and who will be these business and trade making elements ? Much likely the big banks and the big corporations.Somebody will have to decide by making some deals, which banks and companies will have this or that leading role in a certain field, then the smaller banks and companies will have to take the lower levels on the economic (profit) pyramid. I don’t think that this view and perception will change. After they agreed upon the structure of the new pyramid, the work can begun. This work has one name : exploitation. First of all, the exploitation of Earth resources – which are not limitless – leading toward a much brighter environmental trouble by the fact that new – till now virgin – places will be “worked” upon all around the world with the probably new slogan ” for a better and prosper world for all” . New roads will be constructed, first of all for the companies to have a faster and smoother access to the “working” locations and for the faster access to the world market places. A lot of people will have a lot of work with the building of new roads, then new markets, new cities, everything you wish. Then is there the industry, which country will produce what, will there be a criteria that X will make cars of this type and Y will make cars of that type only, or the wages issue between one country in the west and other in the south or east – for the same work. If this will be equaled, where will be the profit for those corporations which now are making huge profits by this “exchange” of places because of lower wages ? How could be realized the new order with the actual stock-exchange doctrine and habits ? Will there ever be a limit for one person to be rich ? Who will stop the GMO crops and the mass fertilization on agriculture and assure healthy products for people ? Who will stop the big pharma concerns to make huge profits by producing unhealthy or damaging medicine or selling medicine at unreachable price ? What will happen with some countries who have a declining population but have a strong economic potential today in relation with emerging countries in east which have a steady growth in population (and so in workforce) and their economy will grow faster in the future ? Will those countries (in west) not be tempted to remain the leaders in the sharing of wealth ? If we are optimistic, we can assume that will be peace and prosperity on earth. We can then also assume that the world population will also grow, the life expectancy will also grow. More people, more food and more trash to be left behind. There will be more roads, more cars, more malls and shops, more consume, more energy needed, more fresh water needed, and and and. Deforestation will continue, mining will continue and intensify, the fishing industry will grow, leaving the oceans and seas almost empty or not able to recover. As I said, the Exploitation will take huge proportions. And this is just a resumé. We, the humans will consume everything, before consuming ourselves.
Thanks for this excellent state of the world resume. The Love Army’s fifth division is about usurious money which is God nowadays. Interest is a demon posing as an angel. The Fed creates money out of nothing. Saint Thomas Aquinas said only God can make something out of nothing. The Fed acts like God and we lemmings follow the God of Money off the cliff. I use money but do not take interest on it. Interest and debt-money are evil creations of satanic systems but they are worshiped in the temples of commerce, while religions remain silent as they get a pass on taxes from the state.
Good call Dennis,
The Tribe brought something back from the Babylonian Exile, something evil. It moves like the demon you site, fleeing from host to host. It always stays hidden, but the longer it stays in one place we start to see it’s effects. As the Exorcist teaches (spoilers ahead), maybe we must take the demon into our body, then sacrifice ourselves to kill it. Love kills it, and the ultimate expression of Love is to sacrifice the most important thing in the world; our lives. If we are not prepared to go this far, it will survive to threaten our children into eternity.
A better story to illustrate this is Frodo and the fall of Sméagol/Gollum. In Lord of the Rings, the One Ring is a metaphor for Power, concentrated power, the ability to bend anyone to your will. Due to the weakness of Men, the Ring was not destroyed when we had the chance, and it fled to hide for a better time. Sméagol’s cousin found it by accident, but the Ring works by passing from one wearer to the next, each more powerful and unprincipled than the last until it finds it way to a Hitler/Dark Lord. Sméagol killed his cousin for the Ring, and putting it on became invisible (the demon). He used this power for personal gain, stealing from his fellow villagers until over time they became suspicious and drove him out; becoming Gollum. In the end, Frodo tried to destroy the Ring (take the demon into himself) but he couldn’t, the demon had taken over. Gollum saw his moment and took the Ring back but in his gloating slipped and took the Ring with him into oblivion.
So maybe we are incapable of making the sacrifice necessary to destroy the demon/Power, we mere mortals are just too weak. But maybe inside Power is the germ of it’s own destruction. Maybe as Christians say, the demon actually is doing God’s work, and this is a fundamental part of our journey. Maybe the Tribe found the Ring at the bottom of the Euphrates, and it has been a curse on them ever since. In their own story found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, they speak of a final battle between the Children of Light and the Children of Darkness. Maybe this is Frodo and Gollum, wrestling on the edge of the precipice, and they who found the Ring are key to its eventual (and probably unintended) destruction. Gandalf the Wise counsels pity, for we do not know where all this will end.
“Frodo: [of Gollum] It’s a pity Bilbo didn’t kill him when he had the chance.
Gandalf: Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo’s hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play yet, for good or ill before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.”
As I was marching with the Love Army today, I thought that this cafe has two modes of expression: prose and poetry. Then I thought of a third: points, as in short bullet points or power points, that get to the point quickly. The popular twitter tweets are very short and to the point which fits the short attention spans of the times.
If someone is a good writer with an important message, I enjoy a long dissertation but that style seems to be going out of style except for bookophiles.
Here’s an example of a Love Cafe Point:
* The Love Army orders its officers and soldiers not to take interest on money or to support the usury system, because it is evil.
I think a Love Army would not give orders Dennis.
I would imagine a Love Army would only accept as brothers and sisters in arms those who are of the same ethical, moral views and values.
A Love Army would be filled with people who choose, of their own free will, not to engage in usuary in any of it’s forms.
I, for one, would take no orders from anyone.
@ Isabella
Good point about orders. When I wrote that I was aware of the pointedness of that word. I thought I’d use it anyway despite it’s ambiguity. A regular army has to operate on orders. But a Love Army is different and you are correct to spell out the difference. The term “Love Army” is jarring but has advantages, like evoking a love power. Also, the term order refers to the grand Order of Love; in my opinion that which can make sense out of this world. Thanks.
@ Pointer.love — Point: Good morning. 43F. Crescent moon and stars overhead. Dawn light growing. Per Bro 93’s “Wood stove in middle of floor,” I fired up my woodstove so it’s cozy in here. LOve.
Almost done with Jared Diamond’s COLLAPSE study of various ancient and more modern societies that either made fatal errors (Norse Greenland collapsed, Inuits or Eskimos continued there much longer, Easter Island devolved into misery and cannibalism, European (British) Australia imported sheep and wool producing, to the detriment of the fragile soils there.
One very interesting thing to stave off angst and depression: Japan, though one of the highest population density nations on earth was earliest and most successful at reforestation, and at the time of writing ten years ago, 75% of Japanese land area was forested, according to Diamond. And presumably still is. Others have screwed up, but others, besides the Japanese have also chosen wisely in some instances:
Haiti, disastrous deforestation. Dominican Republic, eastern 2/3 of the same island of Hispaniola under an undemocratic successor to Trujillo, Joaquin Belaguer ruthlessly forced an end to logging and jailed and even shot violators, and is well forested.
In some cases, good decisions were taken from the bottom up, in others top down. And others, top to bottom, so to speak, screwed up and collapsed.
The scary thing for many is the acceleration of all the process Diamond discusses in his book, BOTH bad AND good.
I am fairly certain that the globalist elites use this fear of the speed to justify their need to lock down the planet under their slave master control, by whatever means necessary, including 911 and all the other evil garbage people have woken up to, and that greater freedom, not greater slavery is an option and a moral imperative.
Will the situation demand an evolutionary improvement of the consciousness of humanity, in the aggregate?
Yes, is my inescapable conclusion, and so be it! Necessity is the mother of invention and we have to move forward and upward, and there are technologies on the near horizon that can solve all these scary things, like garbage. Will get into all of that, soon.
And part of the answer Dennis has been harping on: Kill fewer fellow creatures, consume mush less of their flesh. Non GMO plants are the alternative, and with knowledge a plant diet without protein deficiency is completely attainable. Personally, I am trying it out, since 4-5 months ago. So far, so good…..
Japan can do the reforestation because is a rich country and has an old tradition on loving the nature. There are many beautiful gardens which I would like to visit but in this life there is no chance to do it. In the west, the wood is by large imported from Eastern Europe and from South-America. They have very strict legislature regarding the forests. Who will pay the price ultimately ? the poor countries which have forests to sell. How many Christmas trees will be cut off this year ? as in every year…just for the joy of our consumerism. Business is business, moreover at Christmas !
Japan has Fukushima’s radioacivity in its forests.
Dear Ioan,
Yours is the question of our times. I listened carefully to Obama’s impassioned speech last week in Greece where he defended Globalisation. He reminded me of all the reasons why I supported it in the first place; before the dark times, before the Empire. The free exchange of culture should shrink the gap between us and the ‘Other’, which should weaken our racist impulses. But I am also reminded, as I am a lot these days, of the lessons of the Thirties. It was the growing integration of Jews into German society which caused the backlash from both the Zionists and the Nazis; some people profit from our differences. I hope that the intermeshing of our economies would make war too costly to pursue. And the rapid transference of ideas would increase the rate of civilisation’s advance.
Problem is Globalisation is just another (virtual) land for the Empire to colonise. Economies didn’t intermesh, they were transformed into monocultures to serve the global elites, while people grew palm trees they couldn’t eat. Instead of a sharing of cultures, the West tried to use this superhighway to continue it’s cultural dominance; another kind of monoculture. What Globalisation lacked was a vehicle for democracy, like the EU; totally unaccountable.
Grandfather Marx taught me one more important lesson. He said that the Ruling class would have to teach us technical skills to make us useful in their factories. These skills in the end we will use to overthrow them. It is one of the many delicious contradictions which will eventually bring down their rotten house of cards. To most people, the most visual and utilised aspect of Globalisation is the Internet; which Trump used to perfection to undermine their information road blocks. The internet more than anything else exposed the Empire to the West, to itself. The Internet is our global democracy, the Agora of old where activists like us can stand on our soapbox and reach the back of the crowd.
We concentrate so much on what our ‘leaders’ are doing, we have this misconception that the rule; they don’t. They sit upon the sovereign will of the people, and are powerless unless we give it to them. You can fool us some of the time, but when we decide there is nothing they can do. The Internet has gotten around their usual methods for manufacturing consent, and their panic is palpable. “Fake News” my ass, this is called the contest of ideas. And they are losing.
In the end though, the fault is ours. The Globalisation Creed is “Think Globally, act Locally”, but we have only seen half the story. The Empire has been thinking Globally for decades, for centuries. What we have forgotten to do is act locally. We have been bought off with IPads, SUV’s and flatscreen TV’s; follow the bouncing ball. But this fake economy can’t last, the West is the biggest financial bubble in history; POP! The simple life is coming to a store near you, and I really look forward to it. We will have to rebuild our communities (Act Locally) to survive, and we will be happier, healthier and more awake than we have ever been. Globalisation from above is nothing but Empire, it requires a strong foundation to build on. So lets grab our picks and shovels and get to it!
Thanks for reply, you are right, the globalization in terms of internet is a good thing, although there are a lot of trash there, there are also a lot of very useful things – we are here also thanks to the internet. “Think Globally and act Locally” is a very good idea and we talked about that just a few weeks ago – on how this concept can be implemented and what kind of obstacles are staying in the way. The way to approach the globalization – be it financial, economical or cultural – lies on the shoulders of the world leaders. In the actual stage of political structures, if there will be no radical changes, than we will have to forget a lot of plans. Peter AU is right when he said : we have to wait, wait and wait. Now we have to wait for Trump to be inaugurated, to see what will be his first steps in reality, then we’ll be more wiser than now. There is a primary question : Syria and Iraq – the state sponsored terrorism – which must be the first thing to resolve. Without Russia, that is impossible, and Trump knows that. Only when the hot spots are solved, can the other problems come on the table.
Follow the bright red line. Almost 1 million square kilometers of Arctic and Antarctic sea ice
has gone missing in just the last week.
Global warming is right on schedule.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157630820670161&set=pcb.10157628734115161&type=3&theater
While not a climate change denier at all, I see this as the kind of extreme, desperate attempt to shift geopolitical attention/events that is to be expected right now?
Or are we deniers that certain military superpowers have the capability to create this kind of weather phenomenon – if it suits their purposes??
If we are deniers of weather manipulation, then ignore my earlier remark. Yes, climate change, irreversible. Hopeless, totally hopeless. Let’s ignore politics and drink away our sorrows.
@ S113
Anyone over 50 years of age and living in most of Europe knows from personal observation alone that his region is warming up. Winters were particularly colder, snow and frosts were more frequent and lasted longer and often your fingers were numb with cold. Probably other regions are having similar changes.
The Earth has gone through many meteorological oscillations from warm to cold. Even in the current Holocene period of about 10,000 years – a short blip in the Earth’s age – there have been many warm/cold events as the proverbial wine regions of Britain attest to from Roman times to late Middle Age.
There is no scientific certainty about the causes of the current warm event, and such certainty is impossible. One may speculate one way or the other according to one’s belief, haunch, self-interest or gut feeling. Environmentalists obviously favour the man-made option while unrestrained capitalism wants to have carte blanche to keep plundering the Earth for a quid, or a trillion.
The safer option is the environmentalist one. Whether the aggressive destruction of the environment causes global warming or not is almost irrelevant because it will cause other catastrophes even worse than global warming. Just remember what happened to the Atlantic cod, an almost inexhaustible food supply to all European littoral nations since the Middle Ages. Suddenly, in a few years of overfishing since the end of WWII, Atlantic cod was close to extinction. Similar events are taking place all the time all over the world now unless the capitalist rapacious march to life extinction is stopped. But capitalism will not stop that march by itself because it is contradictory to its aims and logic: to make a quid, or a trillion.
Hi Anon, really appreciate both your comments on this issue. Yep, the collapse of the cod industry was a big shock, and wake up call. Canada’s industry still hasn’t recovered even after decades of a cod moratorium. Here on the West Coast, I visited a museum (can’t remember which one) which told the story of a small, herring-like fish (too lazy to search for the name) that was heavily fished in the late 19th century, I believe. Huge schools of fish, fished entirely. It was assumed the fish would come back. It didn’t. Not ever.
Ecological lessons learned the hard way. Like bringing the English sparrow to Canada, the rabbit to Australia, the beaver to Argentina.
Anyway, I support your comment about the environmental approach, and also agree with Earthrise’s comment on the extreme politicisation of climate change. In the last few years, I believe the Empire has been very active in the North, the Arctic. They’re up to something up there… I’m not sure what exactly. Oil and gas deposits? More shipping lanes? Military access to Russia? It’s hard to watch this — the world’s most compulsive gamblers, using massive resources, to wager a bet on manipulating Arctic ice levels.
Thank you, Phil. I am, of course, aware that there are many who opine that such science is merely opinion or even a big hoax. However, the evidence is in. You’re link is to a Facebook page, but this one is to the “about” page of a wonderfully complete and data-driven web log for any who would like to educate themselves as to reality.
http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/about.html
BTW, big earthquake off coast of Japan, not far from Fukashima — warnings of tsunami heading towards already melted-down core and tenuous situation still at that site. No word yet (to me) of quake damage — only that it was felt in Tokyo.
@ 6:30 p.m. EST
(ramblings. reading between a lot of lines.)
So Russia/Putin is insisting that Washington, Oregon and California become part of Canada, the buffer zone. No Pacific Coast for the USA, no more controlling all the shipping lanes in the world. Wasn’t he quoted recently, stating that Russia will do whatever is necessary to preserve the strategic balance of power in the world?
I guess when a nation’s military is used to genuinely takeover and/or demolish the entire planet, and the plan fails… well, there are consequences.
It’s hard to stop thinking about it.
First thought: the big winner in this may be the Pacific Coast. Ecologically, this could be a big victory.
And an earthquake and tsunami at Fukushima – again! Whew, unlucky or what??
Nice parting gift, from the Empire of Malevolence. To be expected, I guess.
Here’s hoping the Russians have a secret plan to help de-radiate the newly-designated ‘coastline of neutrality’. They’re the world’s leaders in nuclear science, aren’t they??
I wonder what tomorrow will bring. :-)
Locusts??
You either laugh or cry, right??
Ah I see now, ravenous beasts that eat so much they drive themselves to extinction. I have heard the term virus used instead, but they don’t tend to be self-destructing. Locusts it is then. You ever drive through a swarm of them, they clog up your radiator. They stop you moving forward.
I see below you are another weary traveller sipping whiskey at the Café Americain. Play it again Sam, what choice do we have? Liberty or Death!
S113,
I haven’t read these reports yet, sounds very interesting. What a time to be alive, Interesting Times as the Chinese say, though we haven’t felt the Curse’s bite yet. My whole life studying history, I finally get to see it happen. I better be careful what I wish for though, but considering the dark road we were travelling on, we moths have instinctively flocked to the light. Whether it is a way out, or a bug zapper, we’ll find out soon enough. That flickering light, Hope, is water to our parched lips. But now we need Faith and Charity to see this through.
Hi Earthrise,
Your tact makes me smile. :-) I always enjoy your writing style. No reports, specifically, that I’ve seen. Just plenty of evidence pointing to this conclusion. In my opinion. :-) This is the café for unrestrained speculation, right??
I had a wonderful, dreamy moment last night, when someone reached for my hand. It was a long line of people, holding hands, facing the Pacific Ocean, and singing, “Kumbaya.” … And I even joined in – dropping my jaded, brusquely unsentimental exterior for a minute or two.
Was it a dream?? Maybe our peace lovin’ energy can ward off the locusts. :-) Or whatever deranged gift is to be delivered next. Sigh.
Finaly a realistic news-report about US election [sarc]
https://eldahshan.com/2016/11/13/the-us-elections-and-their-aftermath-covered-as-we-do-african-elections/
Let me try and put it this way to even people like Chris Spivey – sure you got arrested and everything – yet you hadn’t broken any laws – you just spent years analysing the photos from the Daily Mail…and I was Really impressed with you – you gave your own name and address – on the internet ffs – whilst also slagging off The Queen.
I mean wtf ?
http://chrisspivey.org/
Anyhow – I think they reprogrammed your brain..it wouldn’t be the first time..
You keep writing all this (removed MOD) – re duplicates (The American software is Rubbish – They can’t tell one bin from the next) and these people working for them – what exactly are they afraid of – whilst on their way home from GCHQ in Cheltenham..It must be the most boring job in the world…We all know who the Terrorists are..FFS – Give me a Break..Jesus!!!
Wake Up.
and I think you have gone off your head – wtf did these guys put you on when you were in hospital
(They got my wife in at the moment – but she seems OK broke her leg running to a dance class – this car came along and ran over her (only got her leg – she’s fast) and she is coming home today (from hospital – The NHS have been Brill They saved her life)
Yes well of course they can hack each other’s telephone conversations
Clinton VS Trump etc
And almost no one intelligent gives a fck. All The Polticians are useless Liars..and The Press are even Worse
But You Mr Spivey are Class
You didn’t run away
It doesn’t matter if I agree with your deep analysis or not.
There is a very low possibility that you are going to Tattoo Me or My Wife…
but I respect your eye for detail..I do understand..’uck the Newspapers…but I think you once wrote..this Copper want’s me to do Art on his (removed MOD)– and You both settled for his Bum? It was something like that…
I seriously Do not get You Young People. You are all Rather Weird.
But I think Sir Christopher Spivey is a Top Man
How’s Your Grandson?
My Wife is coming home today. She got run over by a car last week.
She’s Beautiful.
We are both older (and better looking than you)
(and that includes Craig)
Tony xx
Here’s how Americans in the Saker community can share ideas with the Trump team: https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/
And maybe The Saker and well qualified American citizens can consider rendering their services to the cause: https://www.greatagain.gov/serve-america.html
Imagine: The Saker in the Trump Administration!
I am an amateur on Climate Science, and I have written an approach on coping with Climate Change, and which Expert and Honest Scientists Know Much Better on how to manage this Serious Problem, but my amateur approximation is a sufficient explanation for ordinary People on how to cope with the coming Little Ice Age, because if the Earth is heating up, then Man Made Deforestation is the Major and possibly Only Reason for that, but If the Solar Activity is on the decline, because of the Sun’s Natural Cycle, then the World will experience a Little Age, and the Science would be Settled on that, and it is said that Certain Scientists have been Lying for the Usual reasons, and People can do their own Research on that.
The more I Research that matter of Climate Change as a Novice, the more accurate my comments should be in theory, and I discovered that carbon dioxide is Not a factor for Climate Change, and I think that the Major Causes of Climate Change are periods of weaker than average or stronger than average Solar Activity, and also Deforestation, the levels and location and timing of Clouds, and this explanation is as good as a Novice can write it, and the Solution to the Little Ice Age is complicated, but there are Good Scientists there, and I hope this comment explains it sufficiently for the ordinary Person, and Deforestation which the Establishment controlled Bribed and Corrupt Environmentalists Know to be a Factor is also a Factor that changes the Climate, along with affecting the amount of rain, and it is being Bad for animals and plants and Agriculture, and Carbon Dioxide is being Slandered for those who want to make Dirty Money on Carbon Credits and on alternative ‘clean and green’ energy, which is Not that clean or green as is claimed, by Vested Interests and their Puppets.
Scientists who say that carbon dioxide has an adverse affect on the Environment, the Oceans, and the Climate are either genuinely mistaken, or they are Deliberately Lying for some reason, and which does not always have to be because of, but it is most of the times because of Corruption, Blackmail, Intimidation, or Bribery, and Many Scientists have been Deliberately Lying because of Wrongly blaming Innocent carbon dioxide for climate change, because if it was not for the Sun, then the Earth would be minus 434 degrees Fahrenheit below zero, or minus 260 degrees Celsius below zero, and so the level of Solar Activity which occurs in Cycles has the Greatest Influence on the Climate of the Earth, and if the Sun is going into its lower level of activity, then the Earth will experience a Little Ice Age, and this will cause the Earth’s crust to shrink and cause Earthquakes and Volcanoes, and Fracking for Gas is Bad for the Environment, and it causes Earthquakes as Oklahoma it an example of this, and this could cause America to cease being a World Power, and Al Gore and the Democrats wanted Dirty Money on the Lie of Global warming and the need for Subsidized alternative ‘green and clean’ energy for which they would have shares in those Companies along with the Carbon Credits Scheme, and there are Americans who want term limits on Elected Representatives, along with 100 % Public Funding for Elections, and to Only use Paper Ballots for Elections.
I believe that the climate is changing to that of a Little Ice Age, because of Decreased Solar Activity, and there are Scientists with PhD Degrees, and as an entire group, they Disagree on every aspect of the Debate of climate change, and on the role of carbon dioxide on the climate, and even on most aspects of Climate Science, and because these PhD Scientists as an entire group with their Differing opinions Cannot all be correct on every aspect of that topic, then it is up to Individuals to make up their own minds on this matter.
This is what I have done on this matter, and with more Research, there is better understanding of this matter, and I do not claim that all of my opinions on this matter are correct, because I am Not a scientist, but I can understand most of the easier to understand Science I read or listen to, and these are my opinions on this matter.
I have discovered that carbon dioxide has No adverse effects on the Environment, on the Climate, or the Oceans, and that carbon dioxide is currently at 400 parts per million in the atmosphere and that Plants like 2,000 parts per million to help them Grow bigger, better, and faster, in any Climate, and if carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, then it will help heat up the Earth to have more heat for the coming Little Ice Age.
I think the best Solution to the Little Ice Age will be found if People Consider Facts that can be Verified by Reliable History and True Science, because the Climate is Determined by the Sun, and the level of Solar Activity, the level and location of Clouds, the strength and direction of Winds, Ocean Currents and the temperature of the Ocean, and the level and location of Aerosols from various sources in the Atmosphere.
This is because it is Physics that allows Scientists to measure Earth’s Climate, and it is useful to have Data on sunspot activity over the last few hundreds of years, and Honest and Competent Scientists will Know what All of the Factors are that affect Earth’s Climate, and I am Not a scientist and I have not done enough research on this matter to be able to say that I have mentioned most and possibly all of the things that affect Earth’s Climate, and how to formulate the best plan for the Little Ice Age.
Scientists should have compiled the entire list of all Known Factors that affects the Climate, and to what extent they affect the Climate before they begin to work on their Proposal to Cope with the coming Little Ice Age.
Perhaps there should be several groups of Scientists in many Countries working Independently on this, in order to provide better understanding of this Inevitable Coming Crisis to the Planet of the Little Ice Age, because of Comparing their work, and seeing whose work is the best work on the coming Crisis of an Inevitable Little Ice Age, and how to best Cope with it.
There are Many Scientists who say that the Climate of our Planet has become Colder, and that there will soon be another Little Ice Age as has happened before in Earth’s History, which was Not caused by carbon dioxide, and that it was because of the cyclical nature of solar activity at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age , and that this is because of the Historically Recorded and Scientifically Proven Predictability of Solar Cycles at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle .
We Know that many things have Cycles, such as the Climatic Seasons, the Tides, Ocean Cycles, the Lunar Cycle, and there is also Solar Cycles.
There are Many Scientists who say that the coming Colder Planet will lead to more Volcanoes on Land, because more pressure builds up in the molten mantle because the Cooler Land Shrinks, and that these Land Volcanoes will emit Enormous amounts of Dust into the Atmosphere, and they refer to these Volcanic dust particles as Aerosols, and they say that these Aerosols will Reflect Heat back into space and Further Cool the Planet, and Reforestation is the way to put more water vapor into the Atmosphere to bring excess Aerosols back to the sea and ground with rain, and there will be more Earthquakes because the Earth’s crust will shrink and crack because of the Little Ice Age.
These Aerosols from Volcanoes contribute to Droughts, because they reflect Heat into space and Cool the Planet, and this reduces the amount of water vapor in the Atmosphere, because Cooler Oceans produce less water vapor that is Needed for Clouds, and it is said that water vapor is a greenhouse gas that warms our Planet during a Colder period, and water vapor is needed to collect onto those Aerosols to bring them back much quicker to the sea and ground by means of rain, but Clouds can and do Cool the Planet during the day, and Clouds can and do retain Heat at night and Forests retain Heat at night, and Clouds are Needed for rain, and so we see how the level, the location, and the timing of Clouds and Rain affect the Climate, and Clouds can be compared to the affect that an open or closed window has on the heat level of the cabin of an automobile with any heater setting on that automobile, and the level of solar activity can be compared to level of the setting of an automobile’s heater, which affects the temperature of the cabin of the automobile, and the Video is Titled: Volcanic Aerosols Verify Imminent Global Cooling Mini Ice Age 2015-2035 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewXpV-vwcy0 .
If it was not for the Sun, then the temperature of the Earth would be minus 434 degrees Fahrenheit or minus 260 degrees Celsius, and so it is Obvious that the Sun is the Most Important Factor for Earth’s Climate, and other Factors include the level of Solar Activity, and the thin layer of Earth’s Atmosphere that Regulates the temperature of the Earth to a Significant degree, and Forests which are a thin layer on the Earth also affects and regulates Earth’s Climate, because Forests retain Heat at night, and they produce water vapor that makes Clouds, and Clouds also affect the Climate.
The moon does not have an atmosphere or trees or clouds, and the temperature of the moon that has sunlight shining on it is 251 degrees Fahrenheit or 121 degrees Celsius, and the side of the moon where the sunlight is not shining has a temperature of minus 243 Fahrenheit or minus 151 Celsius, and this is mainly because the moon does not have an atmosphere or trees or clouds, and the thin layer of atmosphere on Earth regulates the Earth’s Climate to Great extent, and the thin layer of trees and vegetation on the Earth further Regulates Earth’s Climate, and Deforestation causes Climate Change among other things.
There are People who are wondering if the purpose of Chemtrails in America is to cool the Planet much faster than what would otherwise have happened, or delay the cooling of the Planet, or to Heat up the Planet to support Global Warming Hoax, because there are Corrupt Vested Interests who have Corrupt Financial Investments and Corrupt Business Models, and I have Not researched Chemtrails, and so I do Not know the answer to that.
There is the work of Scientists who says that that Solar Activity affects the amount of Clouds in the atmosphere on Earth, and more Clouds will cause more Cooling of the Planet if those Clouds block sunlight during daytime, and if those Clouds can somehow be made to rain mainly at night, then perhaps the Cooling will be less because Clouds at night will retain heat.
It may be useful if Scientists can invent a way to have mostly clear skies during the day and for it to be mostly Cloudy at night, and those Aerosols and more cosmic rays will create more clouds and rain, and if this happens, then perhaps there will be less heat coming to the Earth if those Clouds are there at daytime because Clouds block heat coming to the Earth, and Clouds Reflect Heat back into space and this will Cool the Earth, and there will be more Snow to Further Cool the Earth, and solar panels are Useless and a Waste of Money if there are Clouds during the day, but perhaps if there is more Wind during the Little Ice Age, then wind energy may be feasible, but it would be better to wait and see what the winds would be like during the Little Ice Age before spending Money on wind energy, and to use Fossil Fuels until then, and Scientists Know more on this matter than what I understand on this matter, and if there is more Snow on the Earth, then this will Reflect Heat into space, and this will Further Cool the Planet, and the Video is Titled: Henrik Svensmark – Galactic Cosmic Rays causes climate change at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpDDqGqN16s , and so my opinion with my limited knowledge on this matter is for more Coal to be used with Clean Coal Technology, where Coal is Cheaper than other energy, and that half the Deserts to be Reforested, and that buildings and homes to be better Insulated to use less energy, and the Planet will then have what it Needs to better Regulate the Climate.
We have heard how those who say that the Earth is getting hotter, say that they worry that the Arctic might melt and flood Coastal Cities, but the Arctic is Not on Land, but it is floating on water, and floating ice floats is less dense than water, and floating ice is only 10 % above water, and if Ice does melt, then it will become denser water, and it has been Scientifically Proven that this will Not raise or lower the sea level, and the Antarctica which is on Land has Very Short Cold ‘Summers’ and Very Long and Very Cold Winters of minus 130 degrees Fahrenheit or minus 91 degrees Celsius, and it is getting Colder and it will Not melt, and Only a small percentage of Antarctic Ice on the periphery melts during the Antarctic summer, but that Ice All comes back in the winter.
This can be compared somehow to how All of the snow that comes back in winter to those places where there is no snow in summer, but only a small percentage of the peripheral Antarctic Ice that melts in the Antarctic summer, and most of it stays where it is, and it is joined by more Ice in the Very Long and Very Cold Antarctic winter, and the World’s Ocean would need to boil and Land Temperatures would need to be 200 degrees Fahrenheit or 92 degrees Celsius before All of the Antarctic Ice would melt, and so there is No need to even discuss the hypothetical melting of the Antarctica as a problem.
There are People who want to make America a Dictatorship with the Bush and Clinton Dictatorial Dynasties, who would want to make America a Dictatorship, and they would use Environmental Problems as their Convenient excuse, but their Deliberately Wrong remedies are based on Lies that they Know to be Deliberate Lies, and their Wrong proposed solutions would make Environmental and Climatic matters much worse than they were.
The Purpose of that Deliberate Mismanagement is to make America a Dictatorship, and after their Deliberately Wrong remedies do Not work, then they and their Lying Scientists will suggest more of the same Wrong ‘remedies’ and say that More Dictatorship is needed to care for the Environment and Cope with the Little Ice Age.
There are People who think that the Establishment possibly Bribes and Controls Every Political Party in America, and they would include the Green Party of America, whom they think are Effectively Establishment environmentalists, and the Video is Titled: Environmentalist Trashes Global Warming Hysteria at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMkrTWGuXbY .
We see from that Video that the Little Ice Age will Lower Agricultural production, because of the shorter warm periods to grow crops, and Land is being used for Unnecessary bio fuels, because there is an Abundance of Fossil Fuels, but Fracking for Gas is Bad for the Environment for Many reasons, that we All Know of.
There is hundreds of years of supplies of Coal on this Planet, and there is Clean Coal Technology, and there are People who think that triple glazed greenhouses that are heated with coal, and where more carbon dioxide is placed in those greenhouses is how to increase Agricultural production to avert Famines in America during the coming Little Ice Age.
I have discovered Many Lies in what passes as Science, and these are mainly those things that cannot be repeated by experiment, and we Know that these Scientists learned these Lies at University, and Many of them Had to Accept those Lies or else work in a Factory, because the Lying Scientists who Want Government Funding will Not let Honest Scientists work as Scientists, and one of them is the alleged orbital shift of the Earth’s orbit that allegedly was responsible for the Sahara Desert, but there are Rain Forests on the same Lines of Latitude on the Earth, and so those regions should be like the Sahara Desert, but we Know that that is one of Many Lies, and those who say that the Oceans are rising, and could it be because the Ice is melting, or Could it be because the island is sinking, because of movements of the Molten Earth at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth, as has been Documented at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyot , and warmer oceans will make the sea level rise, even though No net ice has melted on the Arctic or Antarctic, and so the Lying Scientists Know how to mislead People.
I have heard some Scientists wrongly say that the Sahara Desert came into existence because of the Earth’s orbital shift some 11,000 years ago, but Historians say that the Roman Empire took over North Africa some 2,200 years ago, and the Roman Empire’s Historian named Pliny said that he marveled at the abundance of forests and the variety of animals in North Africa, and that the Emperor’s armies set about clearing the land to establish farms, and that for the next 200 years North Africa supplied the Roman Empire with half a million tons of grain a year, but over the years, deforestation, salinisation, and over exploitation of the land took its toll, and crop productivity dropped and the climate changed, and I think it is Logical to accept the accounts of Pliny and other Historians of the Roman Empire as an Accurate account of what happened with the Sahara region, because the Roman Empire was Responsible for much Deforestation in the territories of the Roman Empire, and these Lying Scientists do Not want People to Know that Deforestation is what changed the Climate of the Sahara and North Africa, and that had the trees been there, then the Sahara and North Africa would be a Tropical Rain Forest at https://www.google.com.au/search?q=sahara+desert&biw=1120&bih=629&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjf7a3RlLzQAhWBQ5QKHUjLBZcQ_AUIBigB , and at https://www.google.com.au/search?q=rainforest&biw=1120&bih=629&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT1o7ulLzQAhVGKZQKHfxEC5UQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=rain+forest .
The Roman Empire would Not have gone to North Africa and stayed there for hundreds of years if the Sahara was a Desert, and the Roman Empire made its North African territories a Desert, with Farming and Forestry, and the Desert has increased from what the Romans left it as, and this is because of rising salt levels and the wind blowing sand over areas that had Vegetation until they became Desert, and People have built the Great Green Wall of Africa to try to halt the spread of that Desert.
It has been Proven Scientifically on Many occasions that some Scientists take Bribes and Deliberately Lie and that some Scientists are Genuinely Mistaken or Deceived at times, and Many Establishment environmentalists do Not want to mention Deforestation or the Varying level of Solar Activity as causes of Climate Change, and there are Rain Forests in other regions of the World that are on the same Line of Latitude as the Sahara region, and they were Never Deserts, and we can see that there are Forests along the Equator and on Continental Europe, and if the Earth’s orbit had shifted from the Sahara region to one of those regions, then why are those regions Not Deserts today like the Sahara is, and the answer is that some Scientists Lie.
There are Many Scientists who are Honest Scientists and Genuine People, but they have been Thoroughly Deceived by Constant Lies to think that carbon dioxide has an adverse affect on the Environment, the Climate, and the Oceans, and some of those who notice their Contribution to the Environment should propose Environmental Solutions for the Soil, for Reforestation, and reversing Desertification, but Only in the Context that carbon dioxide is Not a problem for the Environment, or the Climate, or the Oceans, and that a Little Ice Age is Inevitable because of the Reduced level of Solar Activity, and Even the Traitor Scientists Know their Pay to Play Consists of having to Lie for some Governments.
We Know that Vested Interests want to Deceive People with the Lies of Clean Green Energy, but alternative energy is Not clean and green and has other problems, and they want People who work in Fossil Fuel Industries to lose their jobs Unnecessarily, because Vested Interests Only want Dirty Money to purchase Nuclear Shelters that have 50 years of Supplies including Drugs and Alcohol, because they Know that the Little Ice Age is coming, and they care Only about Themselves.
We have heard the Lies that increased carbon dioxide will adversely affect the Oceans, but it will Not adversely affect the Oceans, and this is explained by a Co Founder of Greenpeace who left Greenpeace, because he said that it was Infiltrated by the Establishment, and while I do Not agree that Life evolved anywhere in the Universe, yet that Video contains many Useful Facts, and that Video is Titled: Ocean Acidification – The Facts – Patrick Moore PhD at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJjBo5ICMc , and the affects of the Little Ice age are explained in the Video that is Titled: A New Grand Solar Minimum Has Begun Are You Ready to Thrive at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDuekULiTKA .
There are Scientists who say that there was Global warming was occurring until recently, but that there will soon be a Little Ice Age, and so no one needs to be called a Deliberate Liar with regards to the Climate, because Humans Cannot control Solar Activity, but they can Adapt to the Little Ice Age, and Groups of Scientists have come up with Good Proposals to Cope with the Little Ice Age based on True Science and Good Economics.
Thanks for your good long and interesting post. It is indeed long but I am older and have patience to read it and agree with it.
Thank you Anon for your essay,
Climate Change has become so politicised that it is getting difficult to work out where to stand. I come from a time when the world was waking up to pollution; smog over LA and oxygen masks in Tokyo. Acid rain, soil erosion, deforestation and CFC’s burning a hole in our ozone layer. This was a widely-acknowledged problem which had broad support. There was even an international ban on CFCs, which sounds like a unicorn these days. I live in South Australia, which lies on the upper lip of the Hole, and I saw skin cancer rates go through the roof. I look back at replays of the cricket in the 70’s, almost all the males are topless and not a hat in sight. Now we can’t go outside without slip, slop, slap, wrap and shade. This seems to be what has changed, we have gone from broad acceptance of real issues now, to a fight over a distant future which is difficult to predict.
I supported Climate Change for a different reason, and it is the same reason the Elite both oppose it and promote it. As a Marxist, I saw straight away the potential for this ‘looming catastrophe’ to roll back Capitalism. It does highlight another of the delicious contradictions in Capitalism; the lie of perpetual growth. The effect of instituting an aggressive climate change agenda will close old polluting industries, break the Oiligarchy, put the breaks on international trade and be a vehicle for the global redistribution of wealth from the ‘Polluting West’ to the ‘Emerging Economies”. To me it seemed like the gift of the century; all this effort trying to institute a worker’s paradise and in the end Mother Nature would come to the rescue. This is what the old ‘Right’ saw, which is why they are so keen to disprove or deny it. The old ‘Left’ elites saw the potential to subvert this movement (as they always do, they excel at ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’), and they are trying to make money from ‘Carbon Credits’ and Emission Trading Schemes. This is how it got so politicised, it has nothing to do with climate and everything to do with economics.
So my ask to my Green sisters and brothers is to stop promoting climate change, and go back to opposing pollution, deforestation, soil erosion and species extinction. These are real issues now, not debateable future catastrophes. Nobody wants to live in a polluted world, no debate there to be had. Drop Climate Change, bring back the Eco Warrior, and save the world. Capitalism contains the seed of it’s own destruction, it doesn’t need any help from us. We just need to stop trying to civilise and constrain it, just let it come to it’s eventual conclusion. Short term pain for long term gain.
@ Earthrise
“We just need to stop trying to civilise and constrain it [Capitalism], just let it come to it’s eventual conclusion”
I general agree with the tenor of your argument and I posted a comment above very similar to yours giving an example of what will happen to Mother Earth if unrestrained capitalism is not stopped (near extinction of Atlantic cod in about 30 years just from overfishing alone).
I have already hinted above that I don’t agree with your “conclusion” for Capitalism. It will not “conclude” by itself and leave the world free from its devastations; because there won’t be a world left after its “conclusion”.
The unrelenting march towards concentration and polarization of capital in fewer hands (one of the few valid and observable predictions of Marx) will necessarily lead to total exhaustion of Earth’s resources and environmental degradation. Unrestrained Global Capitalism will follow its course and logic of continuous growth until there will be nothing left to exploit on a dead planet.
The alternative scenario is that of a competitive Capitalism (multipolar) an example of which we have already experienced for one century: two Great Carnages of unprecedented ferocity followed by fifty years of Uncle Sam’s “peace” (if you ignore dozens of wars and enslavement of most of the world) to consolidate the power of Global capitalism.
Whichever model you choose, Capitalism will kill the Earth: by gradual environmental destruction or by incineration.
In other words: Apres moi, rien. End of history.
You might appreciate, as I do, George Carlin’s take on ‘shaking us all off like a bad case of fleas’ (coarse language alert):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTIsI95IscY
@ Helen
Thankyou but YT shut out the video. It’s happening lots of times nowadays..
Not bad that one.
Here it is: (there’s always a backup somewhere)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4
Take Care
Kent
Cheers Anon,
To do what I suggest takes a lot of control, it takes the strength to let go of what seems to be the most important thing in the world. Grandfather Marx predicts that Capitalism won’t end until it has run its course. The last phase of High Capitalism will be a nightmare, a Dickensian dystopia none of us want to see. What happens is we keep resisting this final phase, prolonging the agony and extending its reign. We keep forming unions, protesting changes, electing stooges, drafting laws; taking the bait. Capitalism won’t change until everybody knows in the core of their bones how evil it is. We have to feel the soup lines, see the environmental devastation, rile against the injustice before Humanity will make the change required in our souls. All our well-intentioned efforts are stopping us from moving on to the next stage in our development. Rip off the band aid.
In the end, it is Capitalism’s many delicious contradictions which will be its undoing, we just keep preventing them from coming to fruition. The Environment is one of, maybe the greatest, of all contradictions. We need to see with our own eyes that Capitalism will eat our future before we will get off our couches and make the change. That there is no rational-scientific way that growth can go on eternally is the core contradiction, and that destroying the biosphere will destroy capitalism as well. I know this sounds and feels scary, but I am sick of it and just want it to end. I am ready to give up my SUV, my flat screen TV and my (too regular) visit to McDonalds, and warm my hands by the fire. At least I won’t be alone, for we will need each other again.
IN 73 I was in Tunisia and visited what was once the “grainery of the roman empire. One could still see some remands of water supplies. But it was then an eroded devastated landscape with deep gullies, lots of thorny scrub bush and goats.
I am ten times more of an amateur then you. I agree with you but I doubt if cooling can produce an ice age. Cooling would reduce evaporation create drought There is only scanty precipitation in the high North that can not suffice to form the ice caps. If cooling then the water would freeze where it is
@ Pointer.love – Point: re-point: Isabella, see my reply above. Thanks.
@ Pointer.love – Point: Bro 93’s “Cossacks of the Mind” is a stroke of intellectual genius. Thanks.
@ Pointer.love – Point: Bro 93’s idea of stopping war on Russia by “Bankrupting the Bubble with Glass Steagall” is right on; but I’d add we should kick the can of interest=usury in the assets, and recycle it. Thanks.
@ Pointer.love – Point: Bro 93’s “Don’t be God-fearing but God-loving” is a good start but eventually God will give up his power to “strengthen what remains,” namely “loving.”
@ Pointer.com – Point: Bro 93’s “God is not patriarchal, and either male or female.” Is this projection? Historical revisionism? A plug for bi-sexuality? Thanks for the stimulating thoughts. Love, Dennis
@ Pointer.love – Earthrise re-points Bro 93’s “Wood stoves and real dollars” and adds great poetry to boot: “Through History’s eyes / The fallen watch us with hope.” Hear! Hear! Thanks.
Just a Chat
You’re playing with the dot
Like child playing with fork
With the food in his plate
Waiting for his mommy bate
– Mommy! what was that ?
– Nothing, just a chat…
Interesting elections coming up in France. Francois Fillon is ahead in the primaries for the “Republican Party”.The French US stooge media is trying to destroy him, by calling him “Putin’s friend”. If they fail,and he gets the nomination of that party,he might win the general election. Its not known if Hollande will run as the “Socialist Party candidate (Socialist in name only). But even if another runs in his place,its not likely they will win the election. The best result for Russia would be if Fillon and Le Pen are the two main candidates.Both of them seem to want to have good relations with Russia (Le Pen probably more so).
Unlike many here ,I suspect Le Pen won’t win the election.Mainly because of the elite setup in France. Which has a “two round” election system.As an example,lets say Le Pen were to get 41% of the vote in the 1st round. Fillon ,lets say gets 38% .And the other candidate/candidates get 21%. Instead of Le Pen becoming President as the one with the most votes of the candidates. There will be a 2nd round (here is where the trick comes in). There would be a runoff between Le Pen and Fillon. And since the elites hate Le Pen (their dislike for Fillon,not as strong).The losing parties from the 1st round will tell their voters to vote for Fillon in the second round.Even if Le Pen increased her vote to say 45%,the other parties support would assure Fillon the victory with 55% of the vote.Its a trick the French elites have played before. And its almost certain they will this time too.That is of course hypothetical. And one of the candidates “could” get over 50% in the 1st round,but very unlikely.
A Fillon win,if he can be trusted,would of course be good as well.But if the elite is able to prevent his winning the 2nd round primary election. And insert Juppe in there instead. That would not be good at all. They would still use the same trick to stop Le Pen. But Russia (and the World) would be stuck with another US stooge in France after the election.Its best to remember that Juppe was the man who was one of the main plotters in the Western plan for “regime change” in Syria. That should tell us all we need to know about where his loyalties lay.
I agree with you in the presumed election road map. The socialists will not be near enough to make points, the French peoples majority have enough with Hollande who’s been seen more oft as a puppet of Angela Merkel, and we know where that woman stands. If Fillon wins, that will be a big blow for Angie and will have reverberations in the CDU of Seehofer, which now stands behind her in the runoff for Chancellor next year. But before that, will be elections (renewed) in Austria this December. The trick used was the same as in France, but still is a chance. I’m very curious if the people will see the wind of change.
With Trump occupied, we hope, mostly at home cleaning out the Augean Stables that Washington was turned into, Europe will have a chance to free itself from the hegemon’s control.
Yes,I’m hoping that something positive will come from the Austrian election.It’s too early to tell for certain. But with the election of Trump as an incentive. And the migrant crisis still a problem,it might come out good in the election.If it does,that might be an incentive for other nations.
“Unlike many here ,I suspect Le Pen won’t win the election.Mainly because of the elite setup in France. Which has a “two round” election system.”
Not so sure about that. The BBC sent one of their big guns (stiff upper lip) to crush her. Se how that turned out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sfhc_e5P88
The BBC weasel didn’t do better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_VuC5f_So
Take Care
Kent
@ Pointer.love – Point: On my walk + trolley to town with the Love Army I saw JFK as a lieutenant in the first division, intelligence. This is JFK’s death-rebirth day. Welcome to the Cafe, JFK.
Dennis, keep it up mate. I am not the poet you wonderful people are, but I do like a haiku. I am much more creative with prose, in fact it is the only thing I am creative with. I realised yesterday that my writing style is like a haiku; tends to be three paragraphs with a punchline. I love being able to tease out an argument and then leave people with an afterglow. I was reading one of my post yesterday and I thought I could say all this in three lines; challenge accepted! This would fit into your dot point idea nicely.
But then I remembered how much I love to write.
I love your writing. E.g., “Interstellar Space Odyssey…Starchildren yearn to return to the Heaven where we were born…We have to earn it first…The dust from Sol’s mother…What is casting the shadow?…And what is the source of the Light?”
If I understand you, you point out that there is a good side to globalization like the internet, while condemning its dark side. I like the idea of a new “Agora.” I like the idea of how leaders do not have the power; we do. “Contest of ideas” is a keeper. Also: “…the West is the biggest financial bubble in history; POP!”
Your “…the ultimate expression of Love is to sacrifice the most important thing in the world: our lives.” Jesus/She’sus represents that. It is such a deep, powerful thought.
Thanks for giving me a new understanding of Smeagol/Gollan and “my precious — ring” as a symbol of power.
@ Pointer.love – Bro’s 93 poem “A Plan” is a zinger: “crash of cash…evaporation of confabulation…I may be too old to do it / But I just might live to view it” and so much more. I also read Jared D and fear a world collapse.
@ Pointer.love — I think it was ioan who mentioned Christmas trees. On the trolley I noticed that the Christmas tree booths are already going up. How ignorant, and in my town.
@ Pointer.love – Point #1: The Love Army’s first rule is “think love.” Point #2: Eden Vegan. Point #3: Free animality. Point #4: Communal Marriage. Point #5: Interest-free Money–corresponding to the five digit human right hand, digital handbook and short-hand memo; positive side.
Sioux Tribe Head Urges Obama to Stop North Dakota Access Pipeline After Clashes
https://sputniknews.com/us/201611231047732509-sioux-obama-north-dakota-pipeline/
“Approximately 300 protesters were injured on Sunday as they were attacked by law-enforcement while protesting the building of the pipeline. Twenty-six suffered serious injuries and were taken to a hospital in the region, the release stated.
“Once again, we call on President Obama to stop this pipeline and the violence resulting from it, and to deny the easement,” Archambault said on Tuesday. “The reckless escalation of violence by the Morton County Sheriff’s Department is unconscionable and preventable. It must stop now.”
The Standing Rock Sioux opposes the building of the pipeline on the basis it will affect their water sources and violate sacred places, including burial sites.”
I saw that on video. Protesters, some with peace sticks, were standing in the cold water of the river.
Police threw grenade at DAPL protesters – father of activist who faces amputation
https://www.rt.com/usa/367771-dapl-protester-arm-amputation/
“A Dakota Access Pipeline demonstrator may lose her arm after a direct hit from a concussion grenade used by law enforcement officers at the protest site, according to her father. Authorities have denied using any weapons that could have caused such damage.
Pipeline protester Dallas Goldtooth identified the woman as fellow demonstrator Sophia Wilansky, saying she was “struck directly by a concussion grenade” during the Sunday protest on a bridge near Cannon Ball, North Dakota.
Speaking outside the Hennepin County Medical Center on Tuesday, Wayne Wilansky confirmed his daughter was facing 20 or more surgeries in hope of saving her arm.
Wilansky said that witnesses clearly saw law enforcement officers throwing the concussion grenade.
“This is not Afghanistan, this is not Iraq… we don’t throw grenades at people,” he said, blaming the local and state authorities for Sophia’s injury.
An image which reportedly shows Wilansky in a vehicle with a severe arm injury has circulated online, with a bone clearly visible.
A GoFundMe page for Wilansky says she was handing out bottles of water to protesters when she was struck by the concussion grenade.”
This is the america both the zio-right and the paleocons worship, just ask dick wilson. The israeloscum found a natural ally/puppet in the usa, already in place and well developed in every aspect of american society.
I did not know it was that bad. It’s so damn sad.
@ Pointer.love – Sun going down; getting cool. I was hanging out in the greenhouse; still cozy in mid-80’s. Sun as sign of love thoughts: radiating, warming, energizing. Imagine. Earth gets a tiny pin-hole of all that energy. Love of one person more than a thousand suns.
Part One:
It’s late and I’m tired but something has come up which I think is important. I’ll at least get a start on what I want to say. It will be long; not Twitter Tweet style like I’ve been doing with @ Pointer.love Points.
An article just went up at the All News room by commenter Dihlon, entitled “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree” with a striking graphic. It’s about Abraham sired religions. The author does not directly deal with God as I am about to do.
Here’s what I gleaned from the comment: “…in order to save this planet we need to leave the ‘moral’ ideals of Islam, Judaism and Christianity behind…we need to be pragmatic, not religious…I consider everything that springs from the minds of the followers of Abraham…to be the basis for all the troubles we are faced with today…we need a new energy source.”
In my comment on this comment, I said I was surprised that this got such coverage, given that this site is founded by a devoted Orthodox Christian. I am gratified that such freedom of speech is allowed because it bodes well for this vineyard.
I am not God-less. I believe in God. I believe there is a God. The problem is that God by his own revealed history is 95% patriarchal. However, with all the changes going on now, I believe that God is also changing. He is not bound to an unchanging book or set of dogmas. As Cardinal John Henry Newman observed in his book The Development of Christian Doctrine, there has always been development of ideas within Christianity.
Saint John the Evangelist was a big part of development of the idea of God when he penned his “God is Love” meme. Now, two thousand years later, it seems to me that God is changing even more, and is supporting the idea of Love. I envisage the day when God as a term/word will retire and move fully into Love. In other words, it’s a God with term limits.
I know this is a shocking idea and I want to be sensitive to the feelings and beliefs of so many good people. But so much is at stake and we have to move quickly in these fast moving times. There is something terribly wrong with the world; we went wrong when we embraced patriarchy with God as its ultimate justification. God is just not that small-minded.
I think I’m going to close this first part and sleep on the subject. There is much to say and I want to be considerate of feelings and also true to the facts.
I was raised Roman Catholic and went on to be a priest and Franciscan monk. I gave up everything for God with the vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. It got to be too restrictive so I had to leave with the permission of the Pope when I was 31. After a worldly hiatus of some ten years, I was again initiated and ordained a priest in a new age religion. At about 60 years I left that too because of its limitations.
I’ve been into other religions and philosophies, none of which were satisfying. I sort of created my own religion with The Love Government which so far is meeting most of my religious needs. From the seminary, I have degrees in philosophy and theology. I’m not that bright but I have considerable experience with religions and God, so I speak with some confidence.
Good night. Love willing I’ll continue this tomorrow. Love to us all.
Hi Dennis,
“I envisage the day when God as a term/word will retire and move fully into Love.”
I don’t know if I missed a reply from Kinterra or other but maybe you’d be interested to take up where that left off – this was the last I heard in a long running debate in connection with the logical problem of evil?
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-07/comment-page-1/#comment-292286
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Quote:
“The whole hell thing is so misunderstood. God does not punish. God is Supreme love.”
Deuteronomy 6:15:
New International Version
“for the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.”
I can only ask you the same question again, do you have a link (or links) to what a particular deity (or deities) have revealed that you actually subscribe to so I can perform a little due diligence with regards the basis of your faith?
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Hi. Yes, I’m working on describing my sources. I’ve already done it in part but it tends to get lost in all the writings here. I just wrote the second part of my thoughts on God but it still is being moderated I assume; I hope it goes through. In the meantime, I will take your suggestion and do my best to engage your intent. Thanks. I intend to continue soon with Part 3 on God.
Interesting link on probably unknown events on Spanish/Basque history for most of the commentariat here, but you may probably identify some of the actors and link them to recent events in this blog:
“The Death Squads in Spain”
http://larouchewatch.fileferrets.org/larouche-fascism1-spain.htm
Great! Another opportunity to dig deeper and deeper into the LaRouche role in history from the late 60’s when he taught unofficial economics classes in New York City to mostly a group of leftist SDS leaders down to the present day.
I didn’t even know of him during college 1968-1972 but I do know a number of people that were in his classes in New York. My impression, from the various first hand accounts I heard was that many of those student leaders were Jewish, Greek etc, and all distinctly anti-fascist by identity. You could call many of them “red diaper babies” —children of anti-fascist communist or socialist parents. And many of them are still active, in the senior years.
In those days LaRouche adopted a pen name of Lyn Marcus which was probably a pretty good choice for filling his informal classes with people from the student left that did not like what Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger were doing back then.
Insurance actuarial tables will tell you that someone 93 years of age is not very likely to live another 10 years, but nevertheless it is fruitful to dig deeper on the LaRouche question, because his ideas are very, very likely to outlive him and to be at the center of world strategic developments for at least a generation or two to come. For example One Belt One Road is Chinese in practice, but LaRouchian in conception.
Fascism is a much bandied about term used by everyone from teenagers resentful of parental restrictions, to self-styled leftists for whatever upsets them.
And some of what upsets them in your link may have upset Lyndon as well, for like any organization which several thousands of people go through, I know for a fact there were various inter-organizational arguments, faction fights and even a few open public fights in conferences which I was able to attend, and witness first hand!
No one knows all that went on, as no one person, including LaRouche himself can possibly be in several continents at the same time. But I have a pretty good general idea, compared to most commenters I have seen here, so far. When one surfaces that knows more, I will be happy to keep quiet, but until that happens it is important to make certain corrections to Empire propaganda. The high level people in China, and Russia, especially that do comprehend what LaRouche is about, as well as many others around the globe, would probably agree that I should do that until someone better and more knowledgeable than I comes along.
For now, I would like to atone for some North American kharma long outdating the International Caucus of Labor Committees by composing a poem by the title of “Thanks-taking” so excuse me if I cut this short.
However, before I go there are two videos I will post today. There are two events in 1971 that catapulted Lyndon LaRouche to enormous credibility on New York City and nearby college campuses:
1. The accurate forecast of the August 15 1971 dollar crisis that has lead to the mega-bubbles of today, many months before Nixon sank the Bretton Woods system by taking the dollar off the gold reserve system.
2. The Queens College Dec 2 1971 debate he had with economist Abba Lerner, where “Lyn Marcus” boxed in the “jewish” Lerner to do what many of the jewish activists attending the debate or hearing about it could not stomach: Openly defend Hjalmar Schacht’s and Adolf Hitler’s labor policies!
So here’s that little bit of history with decent subtitles making up for some poor 1971 amateur audio:
https://youtu.be/Mqe8s65W4kE
The other video is from a mere 5 days ago, and shows why this LaRouche issue is not some stupid diversion, in the least: It is 40+ year Trump confidant Roger Stone’s interview of LaRouche this past Saturday, 5 days ago.
And, it comes down to IDEAS, not epithets, which the USA and the world need right NOW. Which I made my little versification about above, in “The Plan”
But back to the “Thanks-taking” poetic idea I am anxious to see if I can do anything with. One video at a time. The other a few hours from now. Thanks for your patience and your (pl) sincere desire to get to the truth!!
LaRouche role in history seems to have been making the dirty work for the elites whenever he could manage to convince them of his supossed “value”.
Obvioulsy, he was so anxious of being elevated to the same status than them that he did not hesitate in trainig the death squads in Central and South America and also in Spain ( Basque Country )-
The people here would have been able to test that all what LaRouche, and LaRouchites, are claiming right now ( or claimed whenever ) being pursuing, is not but a maskerade. Seeing that in a context of wide discontent among the working masses, populisms are on the rise, now they play the card of the social rights and job for all, claims that have been always those of the left, conveniently discredited, dismantled, scamed, and exterminated with the unvaluable help of this “organization”.
Removed. If the Saker has not posted your link/s then respect the decision. Mod.
Practically, they prevented an entire generation ( Baby Boomers ) in their organization who approached with concerns of defending social rights and freedoms, misguided by the fake left orientation of the NCLC, could reproduce themselves normally, many stayed without offspring. Not to mention the numerous elders whose savings were cheated.
Others, in other latitudes, who were claiming for the same social rights/freedoms were exterminated by death squads, with the ultimate aim of instituting fascism in the world when the right moment arose, which could well be this one, this time without opposition on the part of the left, since almost erased.
So, not so for neither “True Love” nor “True Care”, neither “Sacred feminine” nor “Matriarchy”, but a preplaned eugenesic operation with the aim of elevating fascism and authoritarianism to the range of “New World Order”.
Please could Bro93 and Anon close this conversation down.Mod
Perhaps the links were not published because they had a comment added, and so, since this man is answering me when I was not talking to him, taking advantage of my unability to get my posts in a whole published, I consider it was fair to answer him and try to tell the truth about this organization he is trying to whitewash here and inducing people unaware to believe that it is what is not.
This is the link with no comment from my part on the testimonies of many:
http://larouchewatch.fileferrets.org/larouche-abortion3.htm
Good early morning. It’s now 3:15 am. I went to bed at 9 pm and woke up at 2 am; couldn’t get back to sleep. 50 F. Beautiful crescent moon up like a cup in the east and stars bright. Three or four chemtrails? Fired up the woodstove and here I am.
God – Part Two
To understand God we have to go back to our origins. I will give you my view; what else can I do? A philosopher starts with epistemology–how do I know? I start with nature as the basis of our knowledge with some natural revelation.
I rely on scientific gene studies, extrapolations from archeology, ancient textual analysis, deconstruction of history and pre-history, observation of who we are now, my own intuition, my own experiments with diet, free animality, communal marriage, interest-free money, drug-free mind and contact with the original lovers here on this earth and from the stars (the latter serving as some kind of “revelation”) and other sources.
The notion of some sort of god predates the Abrahamic religions. The idea of God was preceded by beliefs in spirits animating natural phenomenon which was developed into gods and goddesses for every imaginable event in life. This goes under the label of “paganism,” which simply means the common people’s ideas.
With the development of agriculture and writing, the huge kingdoms arose with their own numerous gods and priesthoods, stemming from the primitive kings of about 10,000 years past. Prior to that in the stone ages there was no evidence of gods and goddesses with their altars, offerings, ceremonies, vestments and temples. The art and artifacts were of women and animals for the most part.
The idea of monotheism grew when the pantheon of millions of gods and goddesses got too complicated and so there was a move to gather them all into one God. The Jews developed this into their own version and gave the name to the game with their Patriarchs Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Male power took on the name Patriarchy.
To understand God we have to go back to our beginnings, past paganism and patriarchy. I am over-simplifying of course, but we “appeared” rather suddenly and unexpectedly on the scene in Africa about 100,000 years ago, after a long development. Gorillas at 15 million years past, chimps at 7 million and then all the hominids of homo erectus, homo habilis, homo sapiens and then homo sapiens, sapiens.
Victors get to write the history and so now we look back through the lenses of patriarchy which is skewed to say the least. We have to go past his-story into her-story which is difficult because it was obliterated by his-story, and didn’t leave stones and writings for us. However, as before mentioned, there are ways to recover it.
Note that I am not going into the origin of our origins. It is arrogant to think that we are the only intelligent ones in this universe, or even on this earth. The question of ET’s and UFO’s comes in but that’s not what we’re dealing with here and now. I personally believe that our creators were advanced lovers who created us by loving. But I start with our herstory here on this planet in Africa. As a sidebar, it is interesting to speculate that Russians from the far north are remnants of a fair-skinned, blue eyed alternative experiment with humans; but that’s speculative and not the point here.
Ironically, patriarchy which tried to destroy loverarchy and herstory, could not do it totally, and left traces of the true story in myths such as the Eden and Elysium. Patriarchy literally means the Father as first principle, value, over-arching importance, first cause and so on. This is the big lie which is told over and over, and finally results in one male God as ultimate authority over all.
Patriarchal men created God to justify their action of overthrowing the original culture of love. How did they know this in the sense of epistemology? Because God revealed it to them. But wait. Isn’t this a circular argument? Yes, but patriarchs are not interested in truth but in power-over. In the original love culture, lovers were the power and authority, not fathers and sons. In love, men support womem, not the other way around. Patriarchy or the Patrix turns everything upside down and enforces that worldview with power.
I’m getting ahead of the story. We have to understand our origins and what that was like before we can know what has become of our world today. Without gut level knowing of who we are, we will be forever lost with all the evils that such a state entails. I’ve described that life over and over here but without taking up actions that cohere with that starting premise, we are unable to really grasp the situation.
Hence, the appearance of the Love Army and Love Bower here, a second coming or appearance, if you will. The ten points or divisions of the Love Army-bower are necessary to recover our primordial intelligence. We don’t have to embrace this program wholesale or over-night but we can restart our stalled journey in that direction by thought, per the Love Army program.
In brief, let me repeat Love’s Way. First, the five Commendments of the positive right hand tablets: 1. Think love; 2. Eat Vegan; 3. Free animals; 4. Communal marriage; and 5. Interest-free money. Then follows the five left hand negative tablets: 6. No drugs; 7. No abortion; 8. No unnatural contraception; 9. No prostitution; and 10. No pornography.
You might think this is an impossible dream. I don’t because I am doing these things, not perfectly but imperfectly, and the jury is still out; I could be wrong but I don’t think I’m too far off. What has this to do with God? I don’t know but we’ll see as the story progresses. I think I better post this, as imperfect as it is, lest I lose it down the rabbit hole to nothingness.
This is a difficult subject so bear with its meandering path. If we are lucky, we will come into the clear before too long. Love ya all til death do us start.
Hi Dennis,
thanks for taking my comment requesting “sources” into account.
“What has this to do with God? I don’t know but we’ll see as the story progresses.”
I like your style, or some of it at least ;-)
I’ll try & read your post in more detaill later.
Re the just-passed EU resolution against Russian ‘propaganda’: it was speared by former Polish Foreign Affairs minister, Anna Fotyga, from the same Polish party that was recently criticized by the EU for its clamp-down on Polish media:
http://m.journal-neo.org/2016/10/18/the-us-fight-for-unending-hegemony-brussels-update/
Of course, she and co-sponsor Brok (also a driver of the Ukraine Association Agreement and connected with maidan) are NATO plants, as well as linked to the EU arm of the NED – the EED.
Why is democracy floating so much political trash to the surface?
More on Fotyga:
She was appointed to the UN, and following Komorowski’s lackluster ‘support’ for Georgia’s ‘self-determination’, announced her resignation from the International Labour Organization:
http://www.georgiatimes.info/en/news/41245.html
So definitely a NATO stooge. Wonder how much she had to do with Saaashvilli in NY?
I would be curious which country have accepted, abstained or said no. Even more so in the wake of Trump’s election. It seems the Establishment is still showing her force, walking with the stick in the hand.
Me too.
The list of MEPs who voted for the resolution would say a lot about who is driving this.
Maybe the Saker community could find out?
Hi. It’s now going on 6 am. Outside the moon hangs high in crescent beauty with her planet companion and the stars as magnificent background. The dawn’s first glow is growing as the sun tries to catch up with the moon in that ancient romance dance of love.
God – Part 3
I’m beginning to like God again after several years of taking him to task for getting mixed up with patriarchy. That being said, I continue to think that the word “God” is a problem, associated with patriarchy and in English deriving from the German “Gott” with the resonance of “you’ve got to do this or that.”
Enter linguistics and semantics. Words not only have meanings but they have emotional consequences right down to brain changes in neuronal discharges, chemical inter-changes, endorphins and anti-endorphins, and so on to holistic effects across the board and up and down the line. In short, the word “God” has a patriarchal “hook” which happens whatever we think about it or desire. Words act automatically on our bodies and brains no matter what.
For example, feminists like the word “Goddess” which they associate with the “divine feminine.” They simply do not understand what I am talking about. Some feminists sense the danger in using the word Goddess but they lack the intelligence to say why. The result is they stick to their Goddess like glue on flypaper.
Goddess means and feels like a diminutive God; it packs the same emotional punch below the surface with the femine “ess.” Patriarchy thus “hooks” feminists unconsciously. Do you see what I’m getting at? Words are emotionally loaded charges that don’t care one bit for what we consciously think. They have been built up and loaded for bear for ages. If you don’t get this, well, what can I say? You are being brain-washed, blind-sided and programmed without your consent by the very language you use.
So with the word “God.” We are addicted to that word. It’s an automatic response. When I get upset and sometimes enraged, I automatically say “God, damn it.” When I orgasm, I might say: “Oh, God.” And then there’s the ubiquitous “God bless you,” used by charlatans and saints equally. Are you getting the point?
The idea of God is problematic, meaning that it causes problems, and really big ones like war. In my own life, I realize the danger by seeing the danger and avoiding it if possible. I generally drop the word God altogether and substitute “love” in its place. Saint John the Evangelist started this process by equating God with Love which at best is a half-solution. But at least it’s a change in the right direction.
Like I said, individuals and societies are addicted to the word God from millenia of patrix programming. It’s very difficult to kick the habit which in some ways is worse than drug addiction because it’s so tricky and subtle. That’s why support of a community is helpful, like in AA. Withdrawal can be painful and even life-threatening. Denial will be the first line of defense.
I don’t have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are things in the notion of God that are valuable but as mature adults with functioning minds we must distinguish the word from its referent. God is said to be Love. Fine. Love is the governing term as predicates are. Most honest folks know this intuitively and act accordingly. By God they mean love.
But that bypasses the automatic responses that I have been addressing. The result is unknowing folks supporting the very things that they do not consciously support. Do you see how devious this programming can be? Good intentioned people end up supporting evil. The path to hell is paved with good intentions. We have to be smarter than the enemy; not dumber.
The Love Army counsels “think Love” as the first principle, principal, cause, value, arch, arc, etc. Love is not a patriarchal concept like God; it is not a father or a male. A lover can be male or female. God cannot because “He” is a male. We have to use ridiculous phrases like “Mother Father God” to get around the problem. Or words like Goddess or divine feminine to balance the patriarchal element.
The simplest solution by the Occam’s razor method is to just drop the word God and use the word Love. But we cannot or will not do that because we are addicted to a particular word. We deny the addiction as all addicts do and so the problem continues until we hit bottom. We are apparently nearing that point culturally now which is good and bad news.
Our cult of culture is hitting an all time low as far as morality and intelligence goes. The lower we go, the more we cling to God which just exacerbates the problem with a pseudo-solution. There’ a Latin phrase: “Bene distinguere, bene discere.” To distinguish well is to learn well. But we have to have a functioning mind to do that, not an addicted mind and body.
That’s why our very ignorance and addiction evokes a Love Army with its Ten Commendments or Ordainments (I avoid the patriarchal Ten Commandments which start right off with “I am the Lord your God…”). I have learned to distinguish and thus to learn but I had to get it myself from many hard knocks; it’s not something I’m going to get in schools or churches or culture as a whole.
God is the crux of our problems and opportunities. I guess that’s why I kind of like God despite myself. He has played and still does hold a lot of power that acts automatically like swearing his name in anger and angst, which he forbids as “taking my Name in vain.” Fortunately, God does develop, as He did with Christianity into Love, per Saint John.
But we’ve got to deal with our pesky addiction to patrix programmed words, and not just God either; it’s a whole mind-set. The Love Army and Love Bower along with this Cafe Buffet will restore the primacy of Love but it will take time. God is needed in this recovery process and there are signs that he is on board the Love Train with recent changes like Putin, Saker and Trump.
That gets us into the development of Christian ideas like the Incarnation of God in Man; very interesting but it would take us too far afield in this Field of Dreams. God is a key player in this drama and I think he is going to some day retire from the field and hand on the baton to Love, as Saint John suggested with his “God is Love” premonition. I love to see this change in God because it makes him more humam as the doctrine of Incarnation intimates.
It’s almost 7 and I can see from my window of this moveable beast of a motorhome the western hills lighting up with the eastern “Sun of God,” soon to be renamed “Sun of Love” in all the bibles of Christianity, with God’s full approval and consent. As always I fear that I may lose this work, and I will fall automatically into my old habit of cursing with rage: “God, damn it.” It’s a bit more difficult to say “Love, damn it.” That nicely sums up what I’m trying to say. So now I must proof this and prove this and possibly improve it; if I do not remove it by accident or providence, as the case may be. I love you, too.
No chance yet to have read 2 or 3 with reflection but they are now recorded for examination forevever (or a while, at least).
Thanks.
Inspiring as all your writing.I don’t have any comment but a small addition, triggered by your linguistic remarks at the beginning, which may be of interest to you.
You said you “continue to think that the word “God” is a problem, associated with patriarchy and in English deriving from the German “Gott” with the resonance of “you’ve got to do this or that.”” I looked into //de.wikipedia.org for that and found some links to your ideas. The (linguistic) idea that English derived from German is not commonly held but not important here, your point is the identical sound of “Gott” and “(you’ve) got (to)”. Sounds convincing, but wasn’t always so, in fact Wiki says the contrary. You are not happy with a God who calls on you and tells you “you got to…” – but in the linguistic beginning, the “indogermanic” main god was “Tiwaz” which boiled down to oldindian “deva”, latin “deus” and is linguistically related to “heaven”, but also “appearance” and “shining” (as if the Indogermans got their idea of God from an ufonaut(ess) as in Fatima).
The origins of the *word* “god”, however, are said to stem from the “substantivierten zweiten Partizip des indogermanischen *ghuto-m der Verbalwurzel *gheu- „(an)rufen“ … Danach wäre Gott das (auch durch Zauberwort) angerufene Wesen” [… to stem from ghuto… and gheu… which mean call upon, turn to someone] – which means the contrary of your acoustic reconstruction: not Gott speaks to us in imperatives, but he is the one we speak to when we are in need, he is the one spoken to.
The article then continues to point out that for the early Germanics “God” was not mainly or not at all a person, or several persons but a stratum at another plane, perhaps a state of things. AND he/she/it was definitely (linguistically) not male or of any other gender. The moment the Germanics started seing in God a male person came with their christianisation, for the Goten (Goths?) in Eastern Rome (Donbass?) in the Arian variant in the 3th/4th c. AD, and for the Central European (“German”) Germanics in the catholic variant in the 8th/9th c. Thus the christianisation triggered a change of meaning of the germanic word(s for) “God”, changing further into meaning the jewish-christian God JHVH.
bp
Paul Craig Roberts weighs in with an assessment of Trump’s picks so far:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/23/it-is-up-to-us-paul-craig-roberts/
God – Part 4
I would now like to bring God into the modern world where he perhaps has more relevance. God is Power. This sort of sounds like Saint John’s “God is Love” idea. Yes, because in the modern world God is showing his true colors as Power and Love. I will later get back to the God of Love truth by sourcing in the Love culture of our origins. But one thing at a time.
As we can drop the term or subject God and go directly to the predicate Love, so we can go directly to the predicate (that is predicated of the subject) of Power. It is a commonplace to say that Money is the God of this world and that is true but not entirely true. The rich who may have all the money they can ever use tend to get bored with all that wealth and seek something more satisfying which turns out to be power, and the power of what? You guessed it: the power of power-over others better known as patriarchy.
Power over others can be a real turn-on and a source of unending sick glee which dwarfs even massive amounts of money. We’re talking about power as such, not necessarily connected to God. The fact that it can be disconnected from its religious context shows that the word God can be dropped from the equation with nothing really lost in the process.
It doesn’t take too much effort to see that the modern world is run by the “powers that be.” We have a classed based society based on power pure and simple and the power of money as one of its manifestations, military force being another. God can morph into money and then into power. Bear in mind that this is patriarchal power that has been gathering strength for 75,000 years on this planet at this time. It is rightly called “patriarchal” because that power was male and overthrew the womam centered culture of love.
So ultimately it is a war of the male sex against the female sex, followed by the blow-back of females striking back at their murderers. What complicates the picture is that by now females have become fe-men themselves, so pervasive as been the patriarchal brain-washing. I can already hear the howls of denial. As always, I stand to be corrected, but by evidence, not emotion.
God is implicated in this power game because he is 95% patriarchal by his own history. The good news is that we have that 5%, augmented by a humam love nature which is not factored into the history books. The word God can be dropped and then we get to see power for what it is. But that requires an education in herstory which has been almost totally expunged from our conscious awareness.
Luckily, we remain humam at our core and this cannot be totally repressed. This is the power of love which I’ll get to yet again. But for now just dwell on the idea of power which can be painful. Power over others, separated from its natural love context, is the great evil, or in religious terms, the great Satan. The extremes are power over others and power with others. A slight but important distinction.
The term “God” is a sort of fail-safe, default mode of last resort when someone is ignorant of the facts of real politics. It’s a belief that gives us relief but at a very high cost which later comes back to bite us in our assets. As said before it is an addiction to a mere word of comfort which can easily morph into power, or a tyranny of weakness and victimhood. Dropping the addictive word can be perceived and felt as life-threatening because of a lack of education in truth.
I can feel the force of this argument but I’ve been struggling with it for years. I feel for others who have not had that kind of self-education. But what am I supposed to do? Shut up because I might hurt someone’s feelings? No, there is too much suffering and too much terror. And God is right in the middle of it.
I suppose I should pause here. I really don’t know how this is playing out in the vineyard. This is a community held together by some kind of commonness. I’m part of it. It looks like I’m talking but I’m really playing off of you and an even larger commons of lovers. I need to pause and listen to the vibrations, not only verbal feedback. I need to listen to God and hear what he thinks of this. So far I am getting the green light from him; he even seems to be glad to duck his own petard.
But it’s not about me or God; it’s about all of us, as lovers, imperfect as we are. I think this vineyard is destined to play a role in the great God game of the “Changing of the Guards.” However, destiny is not set in stone; it has to be embraced or it will be effaced. WE hang in the balance of man, like every grain of sand.
I believe in love. You may or may not. Ultimately, we are sovereign individuals. I don’t exactly know what that means but I don’t have to know; I can love first and knowledge will follow. But it doesn’t work the other way. Knowledge is power, not necessarily love, as is proved by every newscast and bomb blast.
I’m going to get ready for my walk into town with the Love Army. Along the way I’ll mull over these matters and think of you with love.
Dennis Leary
I have to accept, you have an amazing imagination Dennis, although many of your arguments are valid. The concept of God is far reaching, it is beyond our concept, our understanding. I don’t believe in the Big Bang Theory, nor in the Darwinist concept of evolution. I do believe, in logical means, in a spiritual evolution, and in that regard the love is essential or even primordial. The more knowledge we have is better, the more love we have is even better. God has his say in this world (on this planet) but in the whole Universe as well, and the Universe is large enough. Can we measure it ? Where is up and where is down ? To have some orientation we created some laws to measure our small universe on this planet, so we can distinguish where is North and South, East and West. Has the Universe and end ? silly question from my childhood, when we were climbed on a big tree in the mild summer nights watching the stars, the Milky Way. We couldn’t came out of nothing, nor the tree nor the sea and everything else. The science is still walking in kid shoes. The religions have tried to give a certain explanation, maybe in the very old ancient past they had a much better one but till today, that knowledge has been lost.Thanks for your posts !
@ioan
“God has his say in this world”
I have to accept, you have an amazing imagination ioan.
You may not believe in the Big Bang theory or the Darwinist theory of Evolution but in the same way that you cannot see inside the box to check if Schrödinger’s cat is dead or alive your belief may be totally at odds with reality – whatever that is.
Of course, you may just be a very lucky person and have guessed correctly ;-)
However, the logical problem of evil remains stubbornly attached to the nature of your God.
You are correct – the science is walking in kids shoes to the extent that we know practically nothing, not even whether the Universe is “large” e.g https://www.wired.com/2014/08/multiverse/
Anonymous at on November 24, 2016 · at 10:04 am UTC
Yes I have a great imagination, sometimes endless as the Universe. I like the drama and I like the comedy. As I said above “The concept of God is far reaching, it is beyond our concept, our understanding.” The link you posted is interesting and according to the logic of things ( and my imagination) there could be multiple dimensions, many scientists are saying this also, adding that they know too little for now. The problem is that people have split the religion and science for obvious reasons. One reason is that what the science could not and still cannot explain, the religion takes that role, filling the “vacuum” on her way. I accept even the idea of extraterrestrial intelligence somewhere in Universe or in the multi-dimensions. Why not ? Are we gods ourselves to reject what we could not explain because it doesn’t fit in our concept ? Ah, here something more : what would be the view of extraterrestrials for God ? But here, on earth, we have our life with anything we need, bad and good, as you say – in the box. The infinite is scary for humans.
ioan,
“I accept even the idea of extraterrestrial intelligence somewhere in Universe or in the multi-dimensions. Why not ?”
indeed or permeating all around us as J recently linked to
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-18/comment-page-1/#comment-294881
I remember you were also interested in my life-after-life link here
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-04/comment-page-1/#comment-290982
but that you showed no interest in the cncept that we may just be making it up as we go along (the link was in that comment but I repost here http://discovermagazine.com/2002/jun/featuniverse)
If that were the case perhaps we (rather, you or I) are god already?
Of course, I use the reference to “god” on purpose – what confuses me most about apparently intelligent beings (ourselves) is the fact that the religion that we assume is mostly an accident of birth i.e if you had been born in Iran it is most likely your belief would be in Allah rather than God.
In light of Schrödinger’s cat I find that guess as particularly peculiar.
Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I forgot that last cafe, thanks for reminding me on that, of course, life after life, again in the last day of a cafe-talk, but tomorrow when I come back here, be so kind and tell me again. I would like to have kinterra joining too.
@Dennis
So, after all this velvet chatter, we’ve finally arrived: welcome to the
Academic Gardens of patriarchy, victims, collectives, and free meals.
I’m a numbers guy, Dennis. Equality doesn’t compute, whether we
use race, gender, stress, IQ, DNA, or whatever, seeing something
that isn’t there is propaganda.
Enjoy the turkey,
Thanks, Phil, for bringing the matter to a head. Is what I am saying propaganda? Am I a turkey? That is a fair question. I have asked myself that many times and still do. How do I know? Your name, ironically, means love. I thank you for your love.
God – Part V
This whole matter of Love and God, or if I drop the word God, of Love and Power comes down to one word: Love or its equivalent, Lover. The central practice of the matter is to think, say, chant, send and share the thought Love. If I take Love in the personal sense, as in addressing a person as Love, then Love and Lover have the same meaning but a different sound vibration.
I’m not sure I understand all of what Phil says above but his main question seems to be: is love propaganda? I don’t know. I don’t have that knowledge. So I am thrown back upon the main practice: of thinking or saying the word “Love.”
Saint John is pivotal in this question. He posed the equivalence of God and Love in his letter of 1 John 4:8. I differ with him on this identification. I don’t know if the author of the gospel and the epistle are the same, or whether the name John is that of a certain individual who wrote the gospel and epistle.
Saint John began his gospel with the following words: “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.” I begin my thought with: “In the beginning was the Lover and the Lover was with Love and the Lover was Love.” Two different starting points entirely. So what? Does it make any difference? I don’t know; I don’t have that knowledge.
I can make a choice to go with God or Love or with neither, like Phil, dismissing the whole matter as velvety words of propaganda for either one. I choose to go with Love. I don’t know why because I don’t depend on knowledge or words. But I use the word love as a tool to enter into the world it signifies, assuming it exists. Contrary to John, I don’t think the two words are equivalent in meaning or in signification, namely in what they lead to.
To Phil and to others of his mind, it is of no consequence; it is just propaganda. It may be but I still make my choice of love over God, believing it does have consequences. I have faith in love but not in God, as I used to. I build a religion and philosophy around love rather than God, the system I was brought up in. If it makes a difference, I will enjoy or suffer the consequences. I take that risk.
Like Saint John, I am going public with my beliefs because I am a social animal. I have had no revelation like John. I am basing my choice on my negative experience with the God paradigm. I am trying something else. There are signs that it is working and that it is not. My feelings change. My mind changes. My body is changing. The only thing that seems to stay steady is the practice of thinking the name Love in the personal sense. This is the core practice which the Love Army advocates.
I’m going to leave it at that for now. Like John, I speak within a community as an individual which the community can accept or reject which is a reciprocal relationship. I can accept or reject the community as well. But the community does not have set borders; it seems to go on infinitely which is characteristic of the God community as well as the Love community, at least on the level of words.
I find this matter of God and Love interesting but also frustrating. I would love to know and know now but I cannot force that; I can only choose love and practice the tenets of the Love Army, as I once did with the God Army. Will time tell? I can’t tell. I am assuming that this choosing process goes on within other individuals also but I don’t have certain knowledge of that.
I know that this appears wishy-washy and therefore lacks power. I’m not into power anyway so that doesn’t bother me. Calling myself names doesn’t really bother me much either. I am bothered when I get disconnected from love by not practicing the rules of love as spelled out by the Love Army and Love Bower.
I think I need to go into that bower next but we’ll see about that. In the meantime, I wish you love.
@Phil
“Equality doesn’t compute”
Does your higher IQ, if you have one, give you the right to a bigger meal?
“Also by the way we know Mercury to meet the Moon of the hero on Friday of this week, what a day for Mercurian distinction and utilizing in favor of the anima of his community,
best day für a linkage with the receiving mother of ideas = house 11 in the close relation with the “blue” Neptune the liquidator of old and pregnancy with new (old) meaning.”
The midweek-resonator by mundanomaniac: “Son of Heaven Now Ruling Sun and the Brunt of Planets.”
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2016/11/11_20.html
Do we still have any posts on the Ukraine hee, or is all poetry and astrology?
[link to http://www.telegraph.co.uk]
A teacher at a school for orphans and troubled teenagers in Ukraine is accused of plotting to sell a 13-year-old pupil to organ
Galina Kovalenko, 52, was arrested in a sting operation as she allegedly tried to hand over the unnamed girl for $10,000 (£8,050).
Kovalenko, who taught literature and Russian and Ukrainian languages, is suspected of concocting the plan for almost a year and specifically targeted a vulnerable girl.
My Dad was Dead..but My Mum was still Alive
And We met about 35 years ago Today (almost exactly I think in1981)
She is still Here With Me
My Wife is The BEST
What a Girl…
He Ran Her Over In a Car – and She just Jumps Straight Up – well not exactly – you broke her leg in two places – above the ankle and below the knee..
Thank You for not getting her Ankle nor her Knee
We walk a lot.
Thanks
It was an accident – my wife was running on her way to her dance class ..it was dark, wet and slippy. The car driver was totally Brilliant Too(He Didn’t Kill Her)..He phoned me up the moment it happened too..the first phone call was a bit hard to take..but he phoned me the next day (to see how she was) – and the police gave me his number and he seriously was interviewed by the police, my son and and my wife…
On all the Evidence I Have
The Driver did Nothing Wrong
Seriously he was not drunk my wife and my son and the police talked to him..They Breathalysed him…the Copper who passed me the incident note and gave me his name…said – I have to give this to you – its the law – whilst I was looking at my wife who was still alive..
If he had been driving 5mph faster – My Wife would be Dead – and I Really Love Her.
I just wanted to talk to him – about how he felt..cos I know how I would feel if i run over his wife…
and we did.
It will all be O.K. in 6 months..no Money needed..My Wife Needs Love and Care – I and my Son and His Girlfriend and his Sister(our daughter – well they look like sisters)
Can help too
She is not going to be washing your clothes, and hanging them out to dry..but she is already peeling your potatoes and carrots and cutting the courgettes up ..
You know..just ask her..what does she want ..children and grandchildren..she just wants you and me and live to be 80..and them get The Zimmer out maybe 40 years in The Future.
Sure We Can Easy Do 100 Together
She’s a Rock Chick
Our Kids (and Grandson) still Live at home.
We’ve got do another Generation Yet
20 years at a time (unless you are fit)
Tony
Here is to the next 20 years Tony, and the one after that.
Sorry about the delay, video fans. Second video promised. And it is still Wednesday night here.
Unimouse is upset (I recognize him, poor thing.) but maybe he’ll get over it.
Now for some reason I had never heard of Roger Stone until I turned in on election night to the gravel voice of Alex Jones and Info-Wars live coverage, and it was actually pretty cool.
Roger says he was in New Hampshire for the 1980 presidential primary in winter. Reagan vs Bush (Bush was the “Hillary” CFR, Tri-lateral Commission pick of the day, but Larouche had a lot to do with sinking “Poppy” Bush , urging Ronnie (on the debate podium tables, seated side by side) to go after GHW Bush for being in the same Trilateral Commission as the by then extremely unpopular Jimmy Carter.
I was also there, as a campaign volunteer, for about a month, so this isn’t really very fair competition, for Unimouse for Unipolarity, since his crazy, strategically irrelevant leftist-controlled opposition matrix is dissolving into irrelevance, along with the New York Times, and many of his other sources. Thankfully ,there is therapeutic help available for such trauma victims, at least.
Meanwhile it is notable that Roger Stone had the old man on his show last Saturday for two short segments separated by a commercial break.
Here they are, with the commercials removed:
Roger and Lyndon Part One: https://youtu.be/QBx6uHA05gg?t=1647
And Part Two https://youtu.be/QBx6uHA05gg?t=2481
Why does Roger pay his respects with this little interview now? Well think about that for a week or two.
For those that missed the election coverage on INFO WARS with Alex and Roger, here’s what it was like, about 30 minutes before Trump victory was declared:
https://youtu.be/0k7-ZKrBb3A
Cheers!
Hi. Thanks for the links to Alex and Roger. I’ve been listening to Alex for some time now; he often has Roger on as a guest. I hadn’t seen the clip on the confrontation between the young Turk, Cent and Alex. Not sure when this happened and where or how did Alex get there (from Austin?).
I admire these he-men with all that male energy. Truly, it’s the males who need to turn this world around. I have some misgivings about their patriarchal inclinations. I view them as good patriarchs who are needed now to fight the bad ones.
This is an ancient fight, an ultimate fighting contest. I’m quite sure that in the early days of the patrix starting 75,000 years ago, the Alex’s, Roger’s and Bro 93’s tried their best to protect the womem and children from the new world order hunters and killers, but were out-gunned by the bulked-up meat-eaters of the time.
History repeats itself until we learn the lessons of herstory. Alex has been the spearhead of the political liberty movement, and Trump knows it. I don’t know if it will prevail because its working premise is so narrow, namely a fundamentalist Christianity.
I’m trying to broaden the intellectual basis of liberty. The propaganda of patriarchy is deep and broad; it’s in our blood and bones and genes and dreams. I use the Love Army meme to penetrate its defenses, a Herculean task if there ever was one.
I’m waiting for the next cafe to open. In the meantime, I’ve got work to do on this Thanksgiving Day here in the USA, or what’s left of it, like cutting and chopping wood. Rain is predicted for this weekend here in the dried out S. Cal landscape so I need to get things covered up and straightened out.
Love, love and more love to all of us; or as you might put it: True care everywhere.
A fascinating, if disturbing subreddit on ‘pizzagate’, throwing up a network of links as far afield as New York and Hawaii, of a widespread pedophile culture has been deleted.
The investigators however remain undaunted and are continuing to dig, and dig hard.
Here’s what the mod had to say:
Dear Redditors, patriots, centipedes and most of all, heroes:
The last 7 days have been very interesting on the internet. What started as a small group of concerned humans investigating possible evidence of child abuse and corruption at the highest level quickly escalated into the fastest organically growing non-default sub that we are aware of. It also unfortunately became beset by organized hords of trolls, disinformation agents and shills. Even more tragic is that we and all of the amazing human beings had our sub deleted with 2 hours notice despite our best attempts to moderate completely according to the Reddit ToS.
To those of you who are disappointed by the tragic end of this chapter of the story: we made every attempt to moderate within the ToS, with someone assigned to watching /new constantly during busy times. We asked for evidence where we failed to quickly remove PII or instances of legitimate reports.
During the 2 hours notice we were given, there was a huge effort on the part of our amazing diggers, Maxtrix chat community and even centipedes and sister-subs (you guys know who you are) to preserve the great data that had been put together in only 7 days. Thank you so much! We were able to evacuate ALL of the data in a digital re-enactment of Dunkirk. We are not able to post a link to the torrent on Reddit but we will at some point be publishing it and much more in the true spirit of Snowden, Aaron and Assange.
Finally, we are not finished. Obviously the entire mod team and everyone else is tightening up our opsec and putting on our battle-armor. To those who pressured Reddit into this censorship: none of us are turning back. We have all made life insurance videos. We have all vowed to continue this fight. You have only increased our number. This morning we were numerous, tonight we are legion.
To centipedes, patriots and concerned humans everywhere who will not stand idly by and allow an organized conspiracy to continue the systematic abuse of children. We encourage all humans to join us. We already cannot be stopped. Be on the right side of history. We have registered pizzagate.io and although there is nothing there yet, we will be posting instructions for the next phase there as soon as we can humanly manage.
Sincerely,
The moderator team of a sub that was about crust, toppings and sauce (it wasn’t)
BBC not calling! BBC not calling!
The vassal BBC has gone completely quiet the last few days on White Helmet Aleppo propaganda.
Perhaps that last undeniably orchestrated White Helmet video of the man lying quietly during setup and then screaming in fake agony was too much even for the BBC spin machine?
For those attempting to restrain their caloric intake in these trying Holi-days, this was promised here buy posted elsewhere, namely Peter Koenig’s People Wake Up Article.
Hope it helps! (testimonials are welcomed, “before” and “after” gut shots, etc)
Thanks-taking Day Dinner
Ever since before I can ever remember,
Something strange occurs every November:
Americans in various degrees of obesity
Hundreds of millions in the sticks and the city,
In honor of native Indians and friendship forged
Test how many thousand calories can be engorged
In a single sitting. Why this tradition of gluttony?
The hunger of William Bradford and Plymouth Colony
Is the usual excuse for all the fussing and stuffing
And football and family banality, signifying nothing!
Ever since Lincoln proclaimed the national holiday
On the fourth Thursday of November, what we weigh
After six solid weeks of stuffing our groaning guts
Is a dieter’s nightmare! It’s insanely, completely nuts.
All this caloric indulgence to repay our hero Squanto?
And the turkey’s GMO, thanks to good old Monsanto!
John Smith, why on earth did you kidnap that kind indian
And parade him about in London? He made his land victim,
To our never ending expansion, our avarice and our pride,
Joined Plymouth Colony, condemned his tribe to genocide.
Thank you kind Squanto, for helping Pilgrims to survive.
Neither you nor they knew millions more would soon arrive.
I realize there’s little remorse or shame, (“I wasn’t there!” ,
Say Americans today.) but I’ll be content with simple fare,
And try to give much more to a hungry world and make
What amends I can for others that could only take and take.
So, “Thanks-taking “ I call it, in a mood of repentance,
When my ancestors are called to account. This sentence
Isn’t without merit, in this century of collective forgetting,
The sins of Empire, the oppression, the evil bloodletting
The injustice at home and abroad. The taking and taking,
In all humility, has been revisited upon this republic, in spades.
All this to be redeemed only, by new generations, over decades,
If America saves its soul, cleanses itself, most solemnly atones,
By good works and deeds so long omitted by Mr. and Mrs Jones.
And Dennis, alone probably, can appreciate the Dylan humor semi-occulted in the last line.
You can guess the adjective in that title, can’t you, Mr Leary??
When I read that on the other thread, I though maybe you had a double meaning.
I liked it. On this thanks taking day, I’m not taking any turkey bones. What about you, Mr. Jones?
Why do not you, simply, have dinner and enjoy the family forgetting about calories, obessity, hunger in the world and all that?
Man, you, definitely, are not going to save the world, so better enjoy these little moments the life gives you, and try to not embitter the dinner, ok?
God bless and spare us these LaRouchites who are not able to rest even in ThanksGiving.
Like “El Perro del Hortelano: -Ni come, ni deja comer”….
The final line in Italian means: “Neither eat, nor let eat.” – fk mod”
The poem has nothing to do with the old man. It has to do with you. You shouldn’t rest, by the way, unconcerned about others. That’s why I’m glad the poem bothered you. That was it’s purpose—Until you have actual, concrete actions to get humanity through the current debt/strategic crisis that presumably makes you check in here???
Then I hope you bother myself and others with something more programmatic than not to bother your conscience while you eat.
Cheers!
Spanish, actually. Funny saying. I like it. That’s a dog that does his job, instead of chowing down on a steak tossed over the fence. LOL.