2016/11/28 11:00:02
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I love it when a new cafe opens. It seems like a fresh start. Every cafe is a learning milestone for me. Each one seems like some kind of past lifetime. The new picture is that of a coffee cup and a tip or some loose change, in my interpretation. Thanks to all for this incredible cafe community; it’s a delicious buffet of thought and love, or a “think love” philosophy.
Before I engage here, I need to go back to the old cafe and tie up some loose ends, and learn, learn and learn; learn, leary learn.
I’ve been awake since 1 am. My mind is churning as my heart is learning. It’s now 3:30 am. I don’t drink coffee but if I did, I’d love to have a cup with each one of you and spend the whole day chatting and possibly all night in this all-day, all-night out of the way cafe. Love ya all.
What the…? I’m getting a message that I must be logged in to post a comment. What is that?
Just checked the top Saker message which states “At 11:30 am GMT commenting will be disabled for 45 minutes. Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I’ll leave this as is and open a new tab, and do some reading at the old cafe for another half-hour, until 4:15 am here in S. Cal, and 12:15 pm GMT. Did I get that right, teacher? Hope I don’t lose this in the meantime. See you later.
Whether to Accept Political Will of the People, or Push to Cause Chaos
The daily mission is to get the news, and first thing in the morning is a stop at Zero Hedge, which I check several times a day followed by checking in at the Vineyard. Notice that these are my first choices, and it’s not the web presence of any corporate media conglomerate, which I never consider, and rarely look at. Show of hands – how many of you are doing something similar, shutting out the CMC altogether? I bet there are millions.
So the first thing I spot at ZH is this article about why Jill Stein has teamed up with Hillary Clinton to question the election results. Her vote tally isn’t encouraging, doesn’t show that she had a snowball’s chance really, and without saying anything about the message she strove to deliver to the American voters, I’ll say that as a minimum, she would be doing everything in her power to add credibility to credibility so that next time, her party will do better. You wouldn’t think that she would even remotely consider becoming aligned with Hillary Clinton in any way. But she did. That’s like shooting yourself in the face, so that there’s no chance for the greens next time, or any time because the forgetfulness of the voters at this late stage of the game cannot be assumed any longer. We’re awake. And we’re angry. Now this isn’t saying that everyone feels this way, but enough do that those who doggedly demand political and national suicide are OVER-RULED.
Tyler Durden counts down the reasoning behind this drive to force a recount in states, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania in his article:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-27/democrats-real-strategy-launching-recounts
1. With less than 1% of the vote in any of these states, she has no dog in the fight.
2. Donald Trump won in these states, but by a wider margin than a recount could hopefully flip the state.
3. With the Obama admin. as a source, the election was ruled fair, and without any evidence of tampering
4. Possibly a fund-raising scam? Perhaps, but there won’t be much left of the 6 or 7 million raised after the fees are paid.
So you would think that with all that going against her, why would she drive on, continuing to push this ludicrous idea?
Because she’s trying to cause an upset. Here’s quoting Tyler Durden:
“As Edward Foley, an expert in election law at Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University, pointed out to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, electors from around the country have to meet by December 19th to cast their electoral college votes. To the extent recounts in WI, MI and PA have not been completed by that time, which experts assign a high probability that they will not, there is a chance that the electoral votes from those three states wouldn’t be counted leaving neither candidate with the required electoral votes to win the presidency (electoral count would be Trump 260 versus Hillary 232). ”
This could cause the decision for 2016 to fall to Congress? Yes. And that is per the US Constitution, but there’s something very dark, and ominous involved here, and would it be exposed if this comes down to a serious fight? All you Congress-critters KNOW what I’m referring to here. In a word, “Interregnum.” You’ve been concealing it for a long time. And you KNOW that if it was to become common knowledge, you all have ZERO credibilty to legislate or govern us. That’s why you have been hiding it.
I’m going to end here with another quote:
“Of course, if this theory is even partially true then it’s extremely disturbing on a variety of levels. That a person with absolutely no standing. in terms of personal damages, and no presentation of credible evidence of wrongdoing could unilaterally disrupt a presidential election is not only a failure of Stein’s personal character but it’s a failure of our election rules and procedures that such reckless behavior would be permitted.” Something to think about, isn’t it?
” We’re awake. And we’re angry.”
Lots of people are angry. However, leaving the “known” known (or is it the unknown known) despot aside (Clinton) – based on the numbers of those who voted for Trump & even Stein most are not awake to the other despotic members of the Oligarchy.
I don’t watch many of the videos provided against comments but this was linked to by an Anonymous (not myself) in the recent “People Who Laughed at Trump and said…” item:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7nVVwLAlQ
It’s not exactly quality but the message is clear – practically all of those who recently voted are asleep. It’s also very likely that the massive majority of those who didn’t bother are just waiting for the next installment of the Kardashians or even closer to brain stem dead than that implies.
Angry is good, but unfortunately it doesn’t provide hope.
Anger, if justified, is a start.
The idea that one simple act (voting) will bring in someone who could fix anything at all without better thinking and doing from a population that did go into deep sleep after FDR died and they returned from WW II (whether at home or abroad) to make babies and forget the world, is infantile in the extreme.
It will take thousands more acts of thought and of doing by millions of persons to add up to America even being good again, let alone “Great”.
Otherwise, I agree more with Ms Liberty than the complaining video, on the chance that Pepe is right, and that Trump and Bannon did what they could (Politics: “The Art of the Possible”) to wake up the deplorables, the angry ones, who I will take over the Hillarious Idiots any day of the week, since they are a wee bit closer to reality, at least. What else can you do, other than what they did, with a population in this terrible shape?? It was far more masterful than your video.
Aggregate consciousness was driven pitifully low over many decades. Now it has a chance to improve. That’s nothing to complain about. Neither is the fact that there is absolutely nothing anyone can do in an hour, a day, a week, or a year of hard work that will turn the corner on this situation. And that’s what the poor babies have to get over their anger and grow up and work on the problem, for at least a decade, before they can even hope to relax 1/100 as much as most of them are no doubt hoping to get right back to. (Asleep.)
And a hundred times more than that if Trump and Bannon are both frauds. No one has a right to call them that, however, until they take every advantage of this opening (to destroy MSM utterly, for example) and Trump’s team betrays them. Since that hasn’t happened yet, the cynics and babies should shut up and get their brains working.
“I agree more with Ms Liberty than the complaining video”
You would – when you consider hundreds of millions of Chinese slave workers as being provided a “hand up” rather than as the abject exploitation of them by the elite you condemn yourself as a wannabe elite (perhaps more of a Jamie Dimon on steroids property gambler rather than a lowly Kardashian though).
You can try to keep pulling the wool over others eyes with your own focused on Elysium. Currently it seems you are being more than successful, most unfortunately.
Ms Liberty,
Interesting conjecture. I would like to give another view. Jill Stein is doing a civic service for us all. Our elections cannot be verified. Our election campaigns are ridiculous invented ad campaigns which funnel billions into mendacious media corporations.
Jill has standing to call for recounts. They will reveal many irregularities from both parties. This will focus attention on our completely unverifiable elections. If we don´t have even sort of representation, how in the world can we ever turn this story from death affirming to life affirming? This shows a spotlight on the loss of democracy in the US.
I also don´t believe for a hot new york second that Jill got so few votes. If the ship is ready to crash on the rocks, we need a tiller that works.
I didn´t know the procedure you outlined here, about Congress voting in a president. I have no confidence in Congress, but neither do I in either candidate. No dog in the race, maybe but truth.
Thanks for being true to your word. I checked again at 4:30 am my time, and 12:30 pm yours, and bingo, my comment went to moderation.
I just came from the old cafe (may it rest in peace), and wish to tie up the loose ends there here. Does that make sense? I’m sure I will miss much but allow me to address the points brought up by Bro 93, Eimar, Earthrise and Isabella. I will work backwards because I scrolled up at the old cafe.
@ Bro 93:
A Deadly Weapons Workshop is…well, deadly. Sounds like DEW, Directed Energy Weapons, a la Dr. Judy Wood, a lovely lady but not a good public speaker; Judy, please slow down and enunciate better. I prefer Directed Energy Love, DEL, as in Del Mar, meaning “from the sea.” Sea meaning Source. Do you hear where I’m leaning?
“Archeological evidence for the nirvana he proposes is accessed by the lowest chakra.” Good call. The popular yogi meditation sitting position bypasses the feet and legs for a trip to the perineum as first chakra. It’s about 5 am now; just went outside to pee; still as an unrung bell outside–with my first chakra feet firmly planted I gazed up to the still stars overhead and felt like a relay between earth and sky. Thanks, feet.
Bro counselled poetry over prose. Another good call. Right brain over left, the way it was meant to be. Julian Jaynes had it almost right in “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.” I would amend that to the Tricameral Mind, but that’s another story.
I almost never ignore a brother’s advice so here is a little ditty about the First Chakra Feet:
Oh whirlwind of earth
Nearly swept me off of my feet
Didn’t know if I were
Coming or going
Didn’t know the difference between
Up or down
I almost went crazy running
Back and forth
I lost my senses going
Inside out
Now I catch my balance turning
Outside in
I gain my senses coming
Forth not back
I am centered climbing
Down to up
I know the difference between
Going or coming
I know I am
Standing on my feet
Oh whirlwind of earth
———–
Please note that this has 21 lines. The turning point is smack dab in the middle: “Now I catch my balance turning.” Stand up, Man, for yourself and for Womam. Pope’s Essay on Man was written in poetry, a right brain womam’s mode of thinking. In this God-awful world, we need both Man and Womam, but the latter is given preference by any real man who opens the door for her and gives his life if necessary for her and her children. The Russian soldier is now fulfilling the plan for man in opposing the empire’s primordial patriarchal hatred and fear of Womam.
Enough chanting and ranting. I fear this post will get lost in the mail, so must post post haste. Love, love and more love. To be continued…
“Directed Energy Love, DEL, as in Del Mar, meaning “from the sea.” Sea meaning Source. Do you hear where I’m leaning?”
DEL something I call water, and it is a drifting and spinning cool clearnes to drink for everybody what I call Element number four
your ” DEL, as in Del Mar, meaning “from the sea.” Sea meaning Source.” is pure
and I like your standing and pissing under a southern starry sky
“the Bicameral Mind.” I would amend that to the Tricameral Mind, but that’s another story. ”
today I wrote about this week’ s ‘lumping in the three’ astrological: lumping in the Sagittarius
= Sagittarius : Jupiter ruling: Sun, Saturn, Mercury and by Saturn Pluto and Venus and their eight signs
ruled by Venus ruled by Saturn aso
but something will change next week: Venus and with her the 3 will change from Word to Image on coming and next lumpy Wednesdy
from hear to see from mountain to birdworld. This tells Venus dislodgement by flying on Mercury’s wings
whithin the seeing-world here and beyond and Uranus’ wings are being feathered off starlight in emptyness
but, tht’s stuff for next week
and about the neighbour of the 3 namely the fourth by addition “of which the one
emerges” aka Maria Prophetissa
and would amend that the tricameral mind borders to the fourcameral heart
Balance, Aye, there’s the Rub.
It keeps the rubber ducky
Upright in the turbulent Tub.
Splish, splash, rub a dub dub.
I’m holding Leary accountable for infantile regression.
He made me dizzy with all that change of direction.
Numerology is cool, but can also be a Masonic pain.
Play an hour more to count and count and count again?
Hell no! I’ll leave that to Jealous Jill and Hellish Hillary!
And where’s Bubba in all this (that Hilly Billy Billery)?
Ever since Monica sucked him off, (poor Rhodes Scholar!)
He hasn’t been worth a single lousy Confederate Dollar.
This water’s getting mighty dirty, Podesta, Pizza, pedophilia
Sitting up to my navel in drackish dregs and scum, it’s really a
Bout time to revamp this swamp. Can Trump do it? No, can WE?
There’s no solution, no remedy, except individual responsibility!
Wait for Donald or Strategist Steve? Tub water’s a risin’, Ugh!
Can I just pee in this soup, demand they do it? I’m pullin’ the plug!
Actually, I only shower. Cleaner that way.
Oh, I answered ioan here:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-24/comment-page-1/#comment-297976
and answered earthrise, thanking her for the story of Peter Lalor Irish mining Engineer from Australia, and how Forty-niners were among those he organized down under.
Well, speaking of the Jones’ (Ballad of a THIN man, that was the joke, Leary, get it???) and mining, here’s Tom Jones, SIXTEEN TONS:
https://youtu.be/idgmRhmRDBw
He’s Welsh, Tommy is. Free his soul from the company store. With a mind that’s strong and a spirit that stronger.
Sixteen Tons
Some people say a man is made outta mud
A poor man’s made outta muscle and blood
Muscle and blood and skin and bones
A mind that’s a-weak and a back that’s strong
You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store
I was born one mornin’ when the sun didn’t shine
I picked up my shovel and I walked to the mine
I loaded sixteen tons of number nine coal
And the straw boss said “Well, a-bless my soul”
You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store
I was born one mornin’, it was drizzlin’ rain
Fightin’ and trouble are my middle name
I was raised in the canebrake by an ol’ mama lion
Cain’t no-a high-toned woman make me walk the line
You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store
If you see me comin’, better step aside
A lotta men didn’t, a lotta men died
One fist of iron, the other of steel
If the right one don’t a-get you
Then the left one will
You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store.
OOOF! Impotent rage. Needs a Down Under Lalor vow reading by Earthrise!
Thanks for the Sixteen Tons, a bit heavy but good. Also thanks for your reply on the last cafe, very kind of you. If I could give an idea for poetry ? it is a cup of good wine or some good strong liquor… just to let the mind and spirit fly, not to get drunk. As for foreign languages, as you know, I used to put up here some poems in German and even tried to translate in English and transform it in such a form as to have rhythm and rhyme, preserving the logic, that is a hard work to do (ask mundo). The same goes for Romanian and Hungarian languages. The translation can be done easily, but to keep the original meaning and taste is another question. So, I can write in both languages (above mentioned) poetry also, but why should I put them here in their original without understanding, for this site is in English. Obviously thy can be translated automatically by many sites but not in poetic style, which makes the certain poem to lose his value.
Sooty faces twist
Turned hopefully to the Light
Chains fall with a thud
Oh whirlwind of earth
what a perfect
revelation of a spinning soul
shaking and raking
of the wordwater bowl
whirlwind on leg with
a chakra’s rush
running deep up inside
from a Deer-mothers flush
picking the silence
’round winterly stove
rocking his soul
by the lover above
The Lover Above
Be She God or a Woman
For it matters not
It’s now a little past 7 am. Light is everywhere. Sun about to appear. I’ve had my raw Eden Vegan breakfast and am ready to roll. A cool 40 F outside but 94 F inside, thanks to wood from Mother Nature and metal stove from Father Minder.
I left off at @ Bro 93. I have given the archeological evidence for my nirvana vision, starting with the feet and legs of the argument in a prior comment, somewhere where I don’t know. It’s a bit subtle since herstory is an oral communique, not written down; and it had no need for stone monuments, which came later in the old and new stone ages–paleo and neolithic.
We have to follow the trajectory of evidence backwards in time until we come to where we started as a full flowered epiphenomenon and earthly phenom humam. In broad brush strokes it goes like so: present culture> modern times> paganism> new and old stone ages> patriarchal hunting and killing> and penultimate love culture of our origins.
I’ve skipped over much like the rise of the kingdoms and empires and invention of writing, agriculture, religion, politics and emotionalized love, all premised on the patrix hatred of womem and sex. “…and that would be my betrothed…Love whole has to rule over the private parts” in the memorable words of Brother Bro 93.
“But for children?” Is there some kind of a problem there? I mean, children do come from private parts.
“…theme of poetry! Love!” What about reason and emotional intelligence? Is that not manly enough for an Essay on Man? “The business of Man is not to pry into God but to study himself.” How? Pope favors poetry. Why? Can he not reason like a man? His prose is lucid but not very deep.
Heroic rhyming couplets are…well, heroic. Think Homer, Virgil, Dante. “What reason weaves, by passion is undone.” Why is that? Is he talking about a weak reason that cannot stand up like a man? I mean, come on, the left brain should stand up and defend the right brain. That assumes there is a brain on the left.
“So, Workshop: …Work to be done!” What work? Go to “rhymezone.com,” a workshop tip. I don’t like looking up rhymes, if that is what the site does. Not very right-brained womamly.
Like my poem in the prior post, I favor a balance of inequality. Womam as Lover is the fulcrum for the balance beam which solves the “God/Man/Woman debate.” God and Man are the beam ends and Womam is the middle and solution to the riddle. For that we need reason and rhyme.
We have to reverse the reverse. Womam is the one who has emotional intelligence. Man has devotional intelligence, if he has devotion to Womam and her children. Notice that I am rhyming over the reason. And that reason is supporting rhyme, much like womam is the fulcrum supporting God and Man. In other words, womam has superior reasoning ability because has a balanced brain of left supporting right. Also, note that I am talking about Womam, not a patriarchal brain-washed woman.
Pope seems to have written an Essay on Man to try to understand himself as Man. He doesn’t seem to know by reason what he is as man. He is trying to solve by poetry a task he should attempt with reason. Typical of the weakened male brain under patriarchy. All that meat and animal product eating results in…a beefed up cow, chicken and pig brain and higher blood count than woman, even though she is the one that bleeds monthly.
Could it be eating all that blood soaked flesh that turns the male (and fe-male) brain to mush, when it comes to solving real problems like war, disease, famine and miserable death, as the bible foretold? In addition to meat eating, the Love Army has nine other evils; I don’t blame it all on meat-eating.
“Work” also is a male invention that comes with patriarchy. What about play? What about pleasure? What about sex? What about a work-less world where you ate fruit and lower life forms that do not (that’s not) have blood or eyes like us? What about a world with no armies, taxes, worker slaves, pyramid money schemes, pets, ownership marriages or drugged out pot-head minds?
Oh, I forgot. That is some kind of nirvana with nothing to do with this earth or its problems. Someone like Pope, a pope of a different color, struggles with the God and Man problem. Like all patriarchs, he does not understand true love or herstory. Without this foundation, all the poems in the world will not solve our problems. They make them worse by offering a pseudo-solution based on emotional non-intelligence.
Yesterday, tears came to my eyes when hearing the voice of that Russian soldier calling down fire upon his own position, knowing that he would be killed. He died for Mother Russia and all her children. We vineyarders have the power to stop all wars, including the one on Russia. We can do that if we learn how to reason first about deep maters (Latin for mother) and rhyme about it afterwards.
@ Eimar
“sibling incest a non-issue?” Of course, it is an issue which would have been handled by the overall context of a love culture. But we have to have an understanding of herstory to know the natural way. We have lost that, and so we are lost.
“genealogical bewilderment…sperm donors…” Comes with the patriarchal territory. Patriarchy is public enemy # 1. Miss that and miss all.
@ Earthrise
“…child looked after by the village.” Agreed but I would add “by the mother and the village.” A mother has a special bond with her own child which she shares with the whole love-sex community.
“Free Love” is not free nor communal love-sex.
“Pair-bonding.” Pairs for love and sex can be enfolded into a communal sex-love society. It’s natural, organic, pro-biotic and bio-friendly. Marriage is a patrix invention but it also can be integrated into a communal marriage idea.
@ Isabella
Let me kindly suggest that your mind needs definitions like a fish needs water. You asked for “practical examples,” a “definition of love,” a differential diagnosis of love and a “concept of love…lifetime belief for me.”
I don’t need definitions. In fact, useful as they are, I don’t trust them because they smack of patriarchal control. If you can define it, you can control it. There is a whole different way of thinking which I prefer. You call it a “conceptual error.” You tell me that I “use love a lot, in a very vague, undefined sense–I have no idea of what you mean.”
I use many genres to describe love, even definitions in their strict sense. “De-finition” means “away from (de) finitude (finite).” In other words dictionary definitions approach infinity in their numbers and meanings. Language is constantly changing its definitions. I’m fascinated by the Oxford English Language dictionary which quotes many “practical examples.” Every definition has a long history and development, often contradictory and confused. It tells a whole meta-story that cannot defined or confined. In my holistic, right and left brained lexicon, I use prose, poetry, reason, rhyme, herstory and history, stories, games, relationships, numerology, astrology, tarot, paradigms, schematics, drawings, cards, religions, politics, polemics and much more to describe love.
Love is the center of my thought and ideology; literally the study-science of an idea. All ideologies, as far as I can see, except love, will eventually degrade to power, especially emotional power over emotional intelligence. I love emotional romance but I try to keep it in its proper place. Look at it this way: we have seven chakras or centers of consciousness–body, emotion, fantasy, dream, mind, will and a seventh sense of order and justice. Emotion is second to the body-base. Thus, we can speak of body-emotions. There are five higher powers, higher than the emotions; and that is only in this seven step scale.
To illustrate the difference in mind-sets, allow me to refer to your belief that I “dismiss a shared living and loving arrangement with animals.” No, I dismiss pets, not free animals. I love animals who are truly free and sovereign, because I am an animal who wants to be free and sovereign. I do not want to be any master’s pet.
Your mind and mine differs on this key choice point. I have no problem with your free choice. We can be free to disagree. I do have a problem with the emotional and mental effects of taking an animal and making it a pet. You do not. Fair enough. You may not wish to continue this topic. Fair enough. This issue of pethood may serve as the “practical example” you requested, or perhaps not.
If I did offer my definition of love, that would lead to an endless debate about definitions that would solve nothing; but it is an excellent patrix distraction. Box things up; control them; get them fighting or arguing forever; divide and conquer; triangulate with power; define the terms of the debate; frame the narrative a certain way–and thereby rule with the power-over hidden hand.
Love cannot be defined. It cannot even be described from a million different angles. Love can only be experienced directly. If we wish, we can share our experiences. It is a natural thing to do since we are social animals or bodies with a soul. My experience tells me that I can connect with advanced lovers and they can connect with me. That implies that we can dis-connect also; and thereby introduce evil into our lives. Poetically, Evil can be expressed as Eve-ill; making Eve ill and driving her from her natural home into a patrix evil slavery pet=pen of killers, dressed as angels and saviors.
Thanks to all for providing this platform with its clarion call to “stop the war on Russia.” We can not tolerate much longer an “uncertain trumpet.” Our times call for a revolution back to the source: Love as Truth, Beauty, Justice and the Whole Holy Order of Virtues. The mind of reason is not the end-game but it is a “sine qua non” tool of restoration. Love, love and more love.
Your misconception of definitions is another reason why we just can’t talke\.
Patriarchal? What rubbish. Control? Definition is essential in order to understand one another, to know we are “one the same page” it is essential to – yes – control our thinking, know what we are on about, and to prevent others playing games with our minds.
If you cant define what you mean by “Love” then I suspect you either have never thought of it and have no clue, or – here’s a big one, you are hiding something in obfuscation, a position I find very suspicious. I prefer the description I read of the Russian Academic Likhachov’s work “There is no sophistry in his works, they are written in a clear and calm language because a profound thought does not require any ornament.”
There is nothing clear in your writing, it’s all emotion, words meant to evoke some sentimental something that is never clearly articulated – It leaves me cold. I have no response to make to it. Sorry.
You have much here, for example, ” Womam as Lover is the fulcrum for the balance beam which solves the “God/Man/Woman debate.”
I frankly dont’ have the first bloody clue what you are on about.
Firstly, I personally am a Woman. OK? I’m not some Mam thing. I Like being a Woman. I dont’ want you to take that away from me.
Woman as Lover? What is this Lover? What do you mean by a Lover?
You talk of a “Love Bower”. I have no idea what you mean”? What is “Love” to you? I just dont know.
But I know what it is to me – very much so. I am very clear, absolutely.
And if I dont know what your major terms mean to you, I have no way to address you, no way to discuss what you are saying, as I have no clue what you are on about.
So, I guess we leave it at that.
@ Isabella,
Right on, Isabella.
Dennis is one of those narrative controll artists.
It is to Saker’s credit that he warrants such high caliber wordschitters spacing out his forums.
Thanks Isabella. With you,anon, whicheveranon you are (hey, there’s you a handle, whichever!), I have been here every evening to seek knowledge about mostly the fate of the people of Ukraine, especially the Donbass, and not to be challenged by the endless pontifications of the great axe-grinding laureates’ blather club. I’m so damn egalitarian I actually give some time to scan for any grain of relevance, and my time is increasingly dear to me, and a lot has been wasted. I see several lovely and thoughtful contributors often conspicuously absent–Elsi, Isabella, Suzanne deK, others, likely absent out of ennui or distaste.
For you and all the men and women here who find all this not only strange but outrageous enough:
“Snatam Kaur – Mother’s Blessing “
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4u8fni72Xs
Heard this song at yoga class and I found it very relaxing and comforting eventhough one is not a believer.
Thanks for the shared music, beautiful. Goes to my list !
Phil and Plainsman,
Thank you for your kind words and support.
“The ‘Moveable Feast’ is an open thread where readers can post wide ranging observations, articles, rants, off topic and have animate discussions of the issues of the day.”
I take a different tone when I am responding to post in the other sections, more factual and moderate. I think the more personal nature of the conversation here scares some people. Here I feel like I am the child walking through the tall redwoods of other people’s experience. This is a spiritual conversation, or at least democratically it has developed that way. If people don’t like it, sit around waiting for the Saker to post something about the Donbass (which by the way is what brought me here too). In the meantime, search through the mental/spiritual detritus here for a line or a sparkle which could change your life.
If you think what The Saker represents is not a moral/spiritual revolution too, you missed the point.
“which by the way is what brought me here too”
I have previously said I enjoy lots of what you write but can remember that only fairly recently. Have you been reading only for a long time or posting under various other monikers?
After the coup I started reading The Saker, Russia Insider and Fort Russ to learn the Russian perspective. I did a lot of listening before I started posting. I only recently started visiting the Cafe, after one of you lovely people invited me. Now I will make my stand here against the book-burners and neo-McCarthyites. I know the Russian government is only acting in her own interest, The Saker taught me that. But I can’t help but feel gratitude to the Russian people for saving Syria, and for standing up to the Empire. This is why they are moving to censor us, because many Westerners feel the same as we do.
You don’t “know” that – you feel it, it is your current opinion. Like me, you may sometime come to believe it is an obscene game and that the Empire is around all of us, everywhere.
I can’t understand why you feel gratitude to the Russian “people” – if the Russian leadership had done nothing do you think the “people” would have done anything?
Do you see the Russian “people” fighting for a significantly broad demilitarised zone in the Donbass to ensure not one more individual there dies? No, low-level continuous tension & war will keep everyone’s MIC happy.
All I know is Russian people are dying, and the Russian public maintain their incredibly high approval rating of Putin and his policies. I have already accepted that this is the really real world and only national interest is at play.
But that does not change the elation I felt when I first heard that the Russians were going into Syria. After all this time, beyond hope, the future could be different. You can feel the love for Russia all over the world at the moment, no amount of fake news can stop that. Words like champion and hero have no place in geopolitics, but that doesn’t change how it feels in the hearts of desperate people.
From me anyway, thank you Russia.
Well, the parasitic Queen of England is (the last time I checked) still inredibly popular also.
I can only feel the love all over the world you refer to in small populations such as visit this blog – are you referring to that or something else?
Have you any reason to suspect (other than simply stating its origin as MSM) that the following isn’t true?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/182795/russia-receives-lowest-approval-world-highest.aspx
I imagine dispassionate information on that topic would be difficult to come by though.
Desperate people will generally believe in just about anything including sundry gods..
You quote a Gallup poll, from the MSM as you state, and then use this as your ‘evidence’ proving the world hates Russia. You do know the MSM, the same polls that predicted a Hillary landslide, are trying to push public opinion towards hating Russia because they are preparing the West to sacrifice their children to the War Machine? If you pulled your head out of the New York Times for a second and looked around, you would see that the majority of the world doesn’t live in line-of-site to your Central Park cafe. The majority of the world’s population live in the Third World, which hates the US Empire and who are cheering Russia so loud you have to be pretending not to hear. I feel sorry for you, as the world has turned and you just fell off.
“and then use this as your ‘evidence’ proving the world hates Russia.”
I didn’t – I asked if you had any dispassionate evidence (i.e. statistical non MSM based) to corroborate that, as you asserted, the world loves Russia.
“because they are preparing the West to sacrifice their children to the War Machine?”
You are too gloomy. For the present, there will be no confrontation of that nature. It would lead to global elites emerging to a decimated surface before technology exists to repair it. Their wish is for Elysium not hell.
“If you pulled your head out of the New York Times for a second”
Ah, you’re getting ahead of yourself – the only time I would choose to do that would be if I wished for more lies by reading Xinhua or by watching RT.
“The majority of the world’s population live in…”
Mind control madness under the boot of the global elite. If you think the Russian elite who have created the circumstances exemplified by the statistic in the 3rd line from last here:
http://www.gks.ru/bgd/regl/b14_12/IssWWW.exe/stg/d01/07-01.htm
have any more interest in the citizens’ of Russia than King George V of England had for the English when he urged his foreign secretary to justify conflict with Germany two days before the outbreak of the First World War (even though the said Foreign Secretary had stated the cabinet couldn’t find one):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706589/Find-reason-war-Germany-Shocking-letter-documents-King-George-V-urged-foreign-secretary-justify-conflict-two-days-outbreak-First-World-War.html
then you suffer the same global disease as those wishing for Chinese/Russian/American/Brazil/India/Malaysia/South Africa/Vietnam/Morocco/Cambodia etc etc Idol Stardom:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idols_(TV_series)
Unfortunately, most of the world does live in line-of-site of the Holywood / American dream (if not the Central Park Cafe) and they therefore couldn’t possibly imagine a “rust belt” exists as a part of their dream.
Is there any particular reason why you have made no attempt to answer my query to you here:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-28/comment-page-1/#comment-298295
?
I have already answered your question about the Russian people, you just don’t like the answer as it doesn’t fit into your dogma. If you are asking particularly about a Donbass de-militarised zone, you are not keeping up with events. A sizable chunk of the Russian people, and a bigger percentage of their Diaspora, are angry Putin didn’t go further. This is understandable, patriotism is a powerful force. But Putin as father of the nation is too smart for that, he understands that the Empire doesn’t win on the battlefield, but in the hearts and minds of the people. By staying his hand, Putin is denying the Empire a propaganda victory. Because the Empire does not care about The Ukraine, but only preventing Germany and Russia from joining in an economic union. Fair point about the MIC though, all these wars only help to drive arms sales.
Your point about the Queen of England is weak. She has no executive war power, and is nothing more now but a bejewelled tourist attraction. The correct English analogy for Putin is Tony Blair. He took the country to war, and now the British people are so sick of it they Brexited. They are debating in Parliament right now whether to launch another investigation into his role in war crimes. Blair was very popular before he sold his soul to the Empire, a beacon of the New Left/Third Way. Now he is a pariah, broken and bereft of a positive legacy. Putin, by looking after his country’s actual national interest, is celebrated all over the world.
“Have you any reason to suspect (other than simply stating its origin as MSM) that the following isn’t true? http://www.gallup.com/poll/182795/russia-receives-lowest-approval-world-highest.aspx”
Yes, because the MSM is the propaganda arm of the Empire. By quoting them, you expose yourself and the bridge you live under.
While you are going back and fact-checking your history, you might also want to catch up on the shift into the new information age; post-Truth. The US government has given up on all pretence to the Truth, and now every word they speak is designed for propaganda value. This is also an issue for the Internet, because anyone can find a quote to back up their idiocy. What you might have missed is we are now operating in a Contest of Ideas battlespace; what is ‘True’ is what you can argue successfully. None of us know the Truth now, it needs to be debated and decided upon by our peers. Like when a crime has been committed and we don’t know the facts, people need to argue before the jury to decide what is True.
If I make a statement like “the Third World is cheering the Russian government’s actions in Syria”, and only one crackpot refutes this, I am on fairly safe ground. If I said instead “The US Empire is the best thing to have ever happened to the world”, do you reckon that statement would make it through to the keeper? The Truth is what a jury of our peers decide it is, or empty the jails.
Well, you can peruse the same text as I, where did you answer this:
“I can’t understand why you feel gratitude to the Russian “people” – if the Russian leadership had done nothing do you think the “people” would have done anything?”
Ah, the old:
“By staying his hand, Putin is denying the Empire a propaganda victory.”
I didn’t say he needed to drive to Kiev – I did say a sufficient buffer zone to ensure civilian deaths in Donbass become zero would give the “empire” no basis for a propoganda victory (having said that, do you imagine Stalin would have worried about the propoganda victory you refer to as he drove through Kiev on his way back to East Berlin?)
“Your point about the Queen of England is weak. She has no executive war power, and is nothing more now but a bejewelled tourist attraction.”
That was funny – here are the Queens’s powers:
http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/insight/what-are-the-queens-powers-22069
and quoting just some of those here
Quote:
“Summoning/Proroguing Parliament – The Queen has the power to prorogue (suspend) and to summon (call back) Parliament – prorogation typically happens at the end of a parliamentary session, and the summoning occurs shortly after, when The Queen attends the State Opening of Parliament.
Royal Assent – It is The Queen’s right and responsibility to grant assent to bills from Parliament, signing them into law.
Appoint/Remove Ministers – Her Majesty also has the power to appoint and remove Ministers of the Crown.
Appointing the Prime Minister – The Queen is responsible for appointing the Prime Minister after a general election or a resignation, in a General Election The Queen will appoint the candidate who is likely to have the most support of the House of Commons. In the event of a resignation, The Queen listens to advice on who should be appointed as their successor.
Declaration of War – The Sovereign retains the power to declare war against other nations, though in practice this is done by the Prime Minister and Parliament of the day.
Freedom From Prosecution – Under British law, The Queen is above the law and cannot be prosecuted – she is also free from civil action.”
Another classic:
“The correct English analogy for Putin is Tony Blair.”
Only if you say so – in my opinion they are of exactly the same class so I can’t disagree.
“and now the British people are so sick of it they Brexited.”
I see that game as no different to the US divide & Conquer Trump v Clinton game – as has been said already, desperate people will trust in just about anything – they will also blame just about anything (even if it isn’t the cause of their problems).
Your conflation of Brexit & Tony Blair’s war campaigns is strange though – there was practically no discussion (MSM/otherwise) as that being a determinant (big or small) of the BREXIT result – why did you mention that?
“Putin, by looking after his country’s actual national interest”
Of the 143 million population, who’s interest has been catered for? undoubtedly he has looked after some of those in that country extremely well but my guess is you either didn’t look at the statistical facts I linked to from the Russian Federation Federal State Statistic service above [call them KPI’s if you wish :-)] or did and just decided to ignore the massive inequality in his Jurassic Park of Capitalism. Did I already mentionthat it is a class war?
“If I make a statement like “the Third World is cheering the Russian government’s actions in Syria”, and only one crackpot refutes this, I am on fairly safe ground.”
I’m sure if you took a survey of individuals who visit this blog you would be on very safe ground. I still imagine if you were to take an actual poll across the “3rd World” the conclusion would be, at best, inconclusive. Rather than endless debate can you post some actual statistical results (that I already requested you do)?
Your reference base is the “US Empire” – as mine once was and my initial reason for visiting this site blog, that now years ago. My reference has now changed after much soul searching – it is now one of Global Class war and the issues you describe are a part of an obscene game.
PS: if you wish to reply you can still use the “Reply” option at the foot of previous entries in this particular sub-thread that we have used.
Sorry to labour the point, but now that you realise the fcUKer (the Queen of England) could murder any subject, leaving them (quite literally) no leg to stand on (in civil or criminal law) and just in case you have no interest to visit the site I linked to here are some other “bejewelled tourist attraction” qualities she possesses:
Quote:
“Armed Forces
Commander-in-Chief – The Queen is commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces and all members swear an oath of allegiance to The Queen when they join; they are Her Majesty’s Armed Forces.
Disposition of the Forces – The organisation and disposition of the Armed Forces are part of the Royal Prerogative; the crown technically controls how the Armed Forces are used.”
@ anon,
Queenie has no real powers of decision in Britain. She is a constitutional monarch, an ornament and figurehead and essentially rubber-stamps decisions made by Parliament. She cannot interfere in the business of Parliament and if she tried she would be as swiftly removed and replaced as her uncle, Edward VII, was for stepping out of line.
I guess that could be considered an improvement on the civil war times when we chopped off the heads of monarchs who got a bit too uppity. For myself I think we could happily do away with the lot of them, but the tourists seem to love all that bogus pomp and ceremony, which is a very recent invention, BTW.
@Helen:
“She cannot interfere in the business of Parliament”
When was the last time you were at one of her weekly meeting over 60 years with 12 prime ministers?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/9813165/Secrets-of-Prime-Ministerss-royal-appointments-revealed-in-new-play.html
Quote:
“Shrouded in secrecy, they are the most private of meetings with an unspoken agreement that neither party will ever repeat publicly what is said. “
What makes sure of this:
“and if she tried she would be as swiftly removed and replaced as her uncle, Edward VII, was for stepping out of line.”
I assume you meant Edward VIII?
Do you imagine any other than one of the elites described in this sordid story would have gained the reigns of power?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334185/Documents-reveal-Queen-Elizabeths-uncle-Edward-VIII-wanted-regain-throne-abdication.html with title:
“Palace plot that almost stopped her from being Queen: On the 60th anniversary of the Coronation, explosive documents reveal how her uncle Edward VIII wanted to regain throne after his abdication”
All that google research has been wasted because the formal powers of the Crown are not used by convention. Both Britain and Australia use the Westminster system; Parliament wields both Executive and Legislative power. The Queen always takes the advice of her governments.
We actually agree about the wider class war. I appreciate you are trying to prevent people from falling into the trap of picking sides and playing the game. I have said on many occasions that Putin is acting in his national interest, which you should know is shorthand for the interests of the national elite.
What your cool assessment misses is that the US Unipower has become a separate danger all of it’s own. When you add together the 70-year death toll we are looking at Nazi-level crimes. The AngloZionist Empire is a Saker staple, and as you said brought you here. Your original assessment was correct; the AZ faction of the global ruling class have become an existential threat to the biosphere.
The Russian challenge to the Empire’s ‘leadership’, followed soon by China, is an unqualified boon to the world. A multi-polar world will provide better balance, along the lines of the Treaty of Westphalia. The concentration of power in the US is corrupting the West, which is one reason this community exists. Most of us here are Westerners, and we have seen in Russia something we have lost.
@Earthrise:
“All that google research has been wasted because the formal powers of the Crown are not used by convention. Both Britain and Australia use the Westminster system; Parliament wields both Executive and Legislative power. The Queen always takes the advice of her governments.”
good grief, there’s something being pumped into the air down under – repeated from here /moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-28/comment-page-1/#comment-298493
…have any more interest in the citizens’ of Russia than King George V of England had for the English when he urged his foreign secretary to justify conflict with Germany two days before the outbreak of the First World War (even though the said Foreign Secretary had stated the cabinet couldn’t find one):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706589/Find-reason-war-Germany-Shocking-letter-documents-King-George-V-urged-foreign-secretary-justify-conflict-two-days-outbreak-First-World-War.html
then you suffer the same global disease as those wishing for Chinese/Russian/American/Brazil/India/Malaysia/South Africa/Vietnam/Morocco/Cambodia etc etc Idol Stardom:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idols_(TV_series)
Ah, the old”
“A multi-polar world will provide better balance”
What do we get from that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_US_dollar_billionaires
only RT recently let us know that is out of date and US has been overtaken by China
https://www.rt.com/business/362657-china-has-most-billionaires/
Until later, but until then keep smokin the dope & when sober keep writing the stuff that I do like ;-)
anon said:
“When was the last time you were at one of her weekly meeting over 60 years with 12 prime ministers?”
and my response is: when were you ever present?
I base my knowledge on having lived under this shower my entire life and taking a keen interest in how my country is governed. The Queen is informed each week on the doings of Parliament–she doesn’t get a say. I am sure that she has an opinion on various matters but if she voiced it publicly there would be uproar (as there is uproar whenever Charles opens his inappropriate gob and makes a comment that could be construed as politically motivated) as she is supposed to stay above politics.
Your sensationalised story of palace gossip from the Daily Mail is funny. The Mail’s readership is held together entirely by gossip about the Royals and any other tacky celebrity who will pose in their underwear or make up a story for the rag. Anything written there is suspect and spun to appeal to the prejudices of that readership.
And yes, of course I meant Edward VIII who became the Duke of Windsor and was exiled in no small comfort to the Bahamas. He never was a contender as it would never have been passed by the Parliament that had so recently dethroned him. Palace courtiers and flunkeys don’t get a say either.
Anon,
Your research methodology is showing (Google/cut/paste). Your fundamental misunderstanding of the British political system is the perfect example; the difference between data and information. You refuse to accept that the informational world has changed; you can’t just quote fake NGO’s that Russia is bombing hospitals, you have to back it up with a rigorous argument. I could easily imitate your research style and defend the Flat Earth theory, with quote snippets and links. Doesn’t mean I am right. I hear there is a job going at the State Department, you would be perfect for the role.
Your Google rant about George V misses the point (again) that he was not acting as King of England, Australia, Canada or Jamaica, but as the Raj of India and Emperor of the British. And you might have noticed that the British Empire is no longer, the capital moved in 1941 to Washington/Wall Street. I also noticed you totally ignored the vast bulk of my last argument that the Anglo-Zionist Empire represents a unique danger to the planet, a Nazi-level catastrophe which requires all peace-loving people to come together. By plotting the points of your argument, what you attack and what your ignore, I think sunlight might turn you to stone. You have taken up too much space on this thread, and I have played my unintended role in this. I’d say you are using these two techniques: Technique #3 – ‘Topic Dilution’ and Technique #4 – ‘Information Collection’
/trolls-101-how-to-identify-trolls-and-forum-spies/
So I will no longer participate in your effort, I have said everything I intend to. So take your cheap shot and go back to chasing Billy Goat Gruff.
@Helen
“Queenie has no real powers of decision in Britain. She is a constitutional monarch, an ornament and figurehead and essentially rubber-stamps decisions made by Parliament.”
http://www.hangthebankers.com/royal-family-enjoys-veto-power-in-all-british-govt-affairs/
Quote:
“The British Queen and her son Prince Charles enjoy a veto power, by which they can annul any new laws being drafted against their interest in the government, it has been revealed.
The revelation came after the coalition government lost the battle to keep information about the level of royal interference in politics secret.
Governmental papers prepared by Cabinet Office lawyers showed that overall at least 39 bills have been subject to the most senior royals’ little-known power to approve or reject new laws.
The documents also revealed that the power has been used to abolish planned legislation relating to decisions about the country going to war.
The documents, named as the internal Whitehall pamphlet, were only released following a court order and revealed that ministers and civil servants are obliged to consult the Queen and Prince Charles in greater detail and over more areas of lawmaking than was originally understood…[]…“This is opening the eyes of those who believe the Queen only has a ceremonial role,” said Andrew George, Liberal Democrat MP for St Ives, which includes land owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, the Prince of Wales’ hereditary estate.
George added, “At any stage this issue could come up and surprise us and we could find parliament is less powerful than we thought it was.””
Here you go anon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen's_Consent
Not quite the veto power that you and the ‘hang the bankers’ site claim, with no corroboration at all for that claim.
Now I’m thoroughly bored too and am out of this conversation.
@Helen
“Now I’m thoroughly bored too and am out of this conversation.”
As the result of a Freedom of Information Request all of the following ensued – I guess since it’s not Wikpedia you may not appreciate this source either (even though it’s an investigation by your own Parliament):
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmpolcon/784/78403.htm
Quote:
“In modern times, Government Ministers exercise the majority of the prerogative powers
…[]…
QUEEN’S CONSENT
5. Queen’s Consent is needed for:
· Bills that affect the prerogative;
…[]…
We are exploring prerogative powers as part of our inquiry into the role and powers of the Prime Minister.
6. The Office of the Parliamentary Counsel pamphlet notes that it is “not possible to give a comprehensive catalogue of prerogative powers.”[10] However, it lists some, including the powers:
…[]…
· to wage war by any means and to make peace (including power over the control, organisation and disposition of the armed forces);
…[]…
8. The process of seeking and obtaining Consent involves the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel, the Clerks of Legislation in both Houses of Parliament, the Government Department responsible for the relevant Bill, and the Royal Household. Richard Heaton, First Parliamentary Counsel, summarised the respective roles of these people and bodies in relation to Government Bills as follows:
When we [Office of the Parliamentary Counsel] are preparing a Bill ready to be introduced, there are a number of things that we have to check and get in order and we correspond or telephone or get in touch with the Clerks’ staff on matters like scope, whether money cover is needed, whether Queen’s or Prince’s consent is needed. Generally speaking, we take an initial view because we know the precedents. We then discuss it with the Clerk of Legislation in each House and…their view is the authoritative one. We then communicate that to the Department. The Department then writes to the respective royal households in a fairly standard way and await a response.[16]
…[]…
9. Once the Clerks of Legislation have decided that Consent is needed, it is the Department’s role to write to the Queen or the Prince of Wales to request Consent.
…[]…
11. Once sought, Consent can be granted or withheld. The Leader of the House of Commons, Rt Hon Andrew Lansley MP, told us in written evidence: “the process of Queen’s and Prince’s consent is subject to the convention that the Sovereign must ultimately accept Ministerial advice.” He also commented: “A request for consent carries with it by implication Ministerial advice that consent should be granted.”[24] In other words, Ministers would tend not to advise the Queen or Prince of Wales to withhold Consent; they would simply not seek Consent in the first place. “
End Quote
So, at para 11, in one breath My Lansley says there is a “convention” that the Sovereign “must” accept ministerial advice and thereby provide consent and in the next breath states that the request for consent “should” be provided by the Sovereign. The reason given for this second indeterminate condition being that the item would never be offered for consent from the Sovereign in the first place.
This begs the question why Mr Lansley would even refer to this indeterminate condition i.e. to consent “should” be provide by the Sovereign in circumstances where he already knows that consent is not required (presumably because the “Department” and the “Royal Household” have already agreed that it was out of scope for consent as described at Para 8.
Of course it also begs the queston – if the Sovereign “must” ultimately accept ministerial advice how can Consent conceivably be “withheld” as para 11 states is a possibility?
Befuddlment reigns
Finally, whatever the “majority”, “must”, “should” and “tend” are supposed to mean ;-)
Oh, you’d probably imagine the “hang the bankers” site as anti MSM (or just a little nutty perhaps?) the same story was also reported in MSM:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262613/Queen-Prince-Charles-given-39-chances-veto-legislation-dont-want-law.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9801835/Queen-and-Prince-Charles-using-power-of-veto-over-new-laws-Whitehall-documents-reveal.html
and even press.tv
http://edition.presstv.ir/detail.fa/283737.html
@Helen
“and my response is: when were you ever present?”
Here (just a different Monarch & meeting):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706589/Find-reason-war-Germany-Shocking-letter-documents-King-George-V-urged-foreign-secretary-justify-conflict-two-days-outbreak-First-World-War.html
“I base my knowledge on having lived under this shower my entire life and taking a keen interest in how my country is governed. “
Same here, but I was only ever “present” at the King George V meeting (just extrapolate to the present, if you can).
“Your sensationalised story of palace gossip from the Daily Mail is funny.”
If it’s true it isn’t really funny at all – I can imagine why Corbyn was not keen on a meeting.
As I said to Earthrise earlier, you (and I) only have opinion & very little by way of facts as we endeavour to read between the lines – but the smallest of snippets are most revealing..
“Helen,
in case you are interested, here is a jpogof the letter:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02987/PX5689635_Lewis-Wh_2987125a.jpg
and the Telegraph version of events:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/10991582/Revealed-how-King-George-V-demanded-Britain-enter-the-First-World-War.html
(not that generally like much in either paper)
@ anon:
From your own Daily Mail link on George V: “King George V, who had stayed away from making public declarations about Europe as his hands were tied as a constitutional monarch…..”
At least the Mail got that bit right and disproves your original claim of the extent of the monarch’s powers.
Of course George V had his own opinions. The point is that he had no power to make decisions on the basis of those opinions because he was a constitutional monarch.
Most of the later Royals were staunchly sympathetic to Hitler and Germany in the 30’s. Their opinions counted for nothing when Parliament took the decision to declare war because they have no say.
@Earthrise:
“Your fundamental misunderstanding of the British political system is the perfect example”
So, what’s your understanding of this:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-28/comment-page-1/#comment-298880
?
“So I will no longer participate in your effort, I have said everything I intend to. So take your cheap shot and go back to chasing Billy Goat Gruff.”
We will see. Folk like you must be confronted until they squeal – I plan to do that in the next cafe (mods willing).
See you there.
@ Isabella
There is much more to you than a melodic name – and the occasional ill-tempered outburst – but I like your fighting spirit even when we are at loggerheads.
“Our” Dennis sometimes strains our fortitude and forbearance and, I have to admit it openly, I just scroll down to the next comment. He’s a good writer and has a massive classic culture to entertain and enlighten us, of which I’m very grateful. But it gets too repetitive to the point of being tedious and meaningless and his message is lost and becomes also our loss.
Hi Anonymous and thank you for your kind comment “There is much more to you than a melodic name – and the occasional ill-tempered outburst – but I like your fighting spirit even when we are at loggerheads.”
However, I have to refute the “occasional ill-tempered outburst” – this is not so. No, this is merely the small “roar” of an outraged Dragon. If you poke or outrage the Welsh dragon, he will flame you. You have to expect it – it’s on our flag, after all, so no-one can claim to be uninformed. :-)
But – it’s a mild roar, “all sound and fury, signifying nothing”. It flames fast and the flame dies out as quickly, leaving the usual good – tempered poet and songster happily humming love songs to the beloved valleys and streams of home. Any scorching it does heals quickly leaving no wounds.
In re our being at loggerheads though – here you have the advantage of me. I do not know who you are – one Anonymous looks just like all the others to us, you know. We can’t tell you apart. So I have no memory of having ever been at loggerheads with you.
I’d rather not be, of course, but one has to speak one’s mind, clearly and unambiguously, and stand by one’s principles always and always.
Again though – my thanks for your nice comment.
@ Isabella
We “met” before several times, once when I described the enchantment I felt when traipsing through Snowdonia on a long journey from Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Cantabria, Galicia and Northern Portugal chasing dolmens and Celtic mists and myths. And I was struck with amazement when I heard children speaking Welsh on their way home from school in Bangor! Surprisingly, Ireland seemed more Anglicized than Wales. Cheers
I’m sorry – I wish I could say “Oh, yes, I remember now”. I’m fascinated by your search for Celtic myths and dolmens though. Can I ask – what did you find, as far abroad as Galicia. I take it you found the Mabinogion on your way.
As to the Anglicisation of Ireland – sadly yes, it’s so. When I last looked, Cornish Gaelic language was classified extinct [I did hear one woman use it 50 odd years back, and she was the last of her village], and Scots and Irish language to be “verging on extinct”. Welsh, however is flourishing. It’s very important to us – “may the Old language never die” is a line in our National Anthem.
Not only has it’s use increased substantially in the last few decades there are now even a few schools in which all lessons are in Welsh. A far cry from the days of 1700’s when the English tried to ban it!!.
We are a different people you see, to the other so called “Celts”. The view that we are homogeneous and all the same people is English and wrong. We aren’t. Even the languages were different. [This claim now had DNA and other genetic evidence to support it].
The Irish and Scots went to war with England. They are a warlike people who like to fight. They were defeated and have lost much.
The Welsh didn’t go to war with the English. There were a number of Treaties after Llewellyn was betrayed, and the English got their foot under the door in their usual sneaky way, but we stayed Welsh. We are noted for being a fairly calm lot – apart from the odd roar :-) – loving our home, our music and poetry and land, but also very very stubborn. We just kept speaking Welsh, and not fighting. And now it alone flourishes.
So I’m not surprised at your shock at hearing the school kids chattering in a language you had no idea existed – I hope it was a nice surprise.
Dennis, for society to continue, many things need to be done. At this point, for those requisite things to happen aggregate consciousness will have to rise. Love has a piece of virtually every action, but it seems to me it’s primary function is to raise us to higher levels of thought, emotion and action, not just emotion and not just sex.
If thought in one person sets one thing in motion, but passion (spirit) is conflicted (as often happens) then what was started gets reversed, messed up, or never gets finished. This confliction is not conducive to eating, let alone making or having Love in greater abundance. But Thoughts, Emotions and Actions getting in the way of each other, individually and communally is more commonplace than their smooth coordination, individually or communally. A big part of the reason for this is Ego. I tends to be short-sighted and not care about others.
Some idealize a simpler world, a Garden of Eden, where there were supposedly no dangers or challenges. Continual pregnancy of all fertile females would soon end that paradise, after several generations, if mankind sat still. China sat still and soon enough there were gunboats and the forced importation of opium. It wasn’t paradise before that, what with periodic disastrous flooding and other problems (bound feet for women and other not so cool things….) but they have decided now on One Belt One Road as policy to overcome the domination of The Empire through its sea power, for starters.
Self-Love is a pre-requisite for love of very much of anything other than self, and that’s what Alexander Pope goes into in Verse 2 of Epistle 2 of Essay on Man. So, judge the whole, not just the first course, because you haven’t had the whole meal yet. Also, consider your reaction to the World LandBridge (crossing the Bering Straits) not from the standpoint of your personal, individual one person’s past and present preferences for car over rail travel, but what is needed for the world’s population to thrive, be free of economic exploitation and LOVE better!
In other words, no human being, including you or I is the center of the Universe.
You don’t need or want the World Landbridge OBOR (possibly, from your reaction), but billions of others do, and the alternative, if you think it through, is WAR or worse, so their needs might just outweigh your feelings on the matter, several billion to one.
You don’t need any poetic shop talk, but most people who might want to sing or compose poetry for the first time couldn’t do 2 seconds of either. So that was not about you. It’s about them. And forgetting yourself long enough to help them. Which your poetry does better than your prose, IMHO.
So, some of these things aren’t about you. You have plenty of self-love. Many others do not. The enemy and there secondary psychopaths do not have self-love. They have self-loathing, like your Count Khazar.
Right now there are 7 billion human beings who face an unprecedented crisis brought on primarily by low levels of consciousness allowing for the entrenchment of self loathing elites who cannot and do not love anyone or anything except more wealth than they could ever spend, and more control.
And a whole lot of things need to be done about that, besides having better sex. It’s necessary, for most of us. It just isn’t sufficient. Love will, must entail taking care of ALL that is necessary AND sufficient. And I’m not changing mates. Because I KNOW THAT isn’t necessary. That’s all. For now.
Dennis, you asked for feedback and debate on your writings here, I would otherwise have not engaged with you, as I think you entitled to your own idiosyncratic vision for the world, whether I agree with it or not. We all have our own personal visions but thankfully, no mandate to impose them on others for too long.
I recall that you were bemoaning the lack of engagement here with your ideas, hence the request for feedback.
I would suggest that using the catch-all ‘Love’ as the answer to every question, conflict or conundrum in life is no answer at all. It is at best an avoidance and at worst a deliberate obfuscation, a thought-stopper, one of those vague terms beloved of cult leaders which sound nice but are designed to trap the unwary and are ultimately meaningless.
Isabella is correct, it isn’t possible to have a dialogue on those terms.
It makes me think of a statement made by a character in a fantasy adventure series I enjoyed. During a conversation with a comrade who is trying to work through a personal issue, she says “I think I”m the last person to ask – I watch people acting out of what they say is love and it makes no sense to me. I don’t know what people mean when they talk of ‘Love”. My Mother couldn’t see that I didn’t want the life she was pushing me into all the time, that all I wanted was to be a scholar and student, and would die in the life she wanted for me. Yet she said she loved me, all the time. So — I’m the last person to ask”.
I thought of how that applied to so many of us – being pushed to something we dont want in the name of this amorphous thing called “Love” and being made to feel that, since “Love” is the best of things, we are wrong to resist those demands.
It led to my own realisation, that this is only possible because this use of “Love” is undefined, but carries certain emotional sentimental demands, one of which is that “Love” cannot be defined, but you are the worst heel in the world if you act against what I am demanding of you in the name of Love. Perfect set up for emotional blackmail, which is all too common as in for example “if you loved me you wouldn’t do xyz [a personal commitment, passion, over-riding ethical demand, whatever].”
Once I knew that, I set out to learn for myself how to define Love, and to learn exactly what it is. It took some time. It’s not a 10 minute exercise. Probably a few years and a mistake or two.
But I know now. I know it can be and must be defined and fully understood and all it’s precepts accepted – knowingly.
And then, you know that, if the chance for love with the “One” who is for you were to come your way, you could truly love with all of yourself, totally and without question.
And even without that “One”, that “perfect other” you still know how to regard life and the Universe with love – all the time.
I know for a fact, I couldn’t have got to this point unless I had done the hard yards before though.
On the next Cafe I will post something about love, well…how else…in form of poetry. Not just for you, but for all.
I look forward to it ioan.
I will also post – my own definiation of Love, and why it requires defining; also that, not only can it be defined, but it must be defined – that before one can love one must needs define and understand what the emotion is and where it comes from.
Perhaps we can start a thread along those lines -but whatever your poem, I look forward with interest.
Which poetic structure do you prefer to use?
Honestly, before you asked me about structure, I never thought to it when I do poetry. But now I took a look at what does that mean and I found a lot of complicated structures (never knew them before), here is the link : https://structureandsurprise.wordpress.com/pedagogy/poetic-structures-summarized/
So, for me it’s like some math, cause I am guided by my feelings, imagination and inner perception of things. At first, there is a base, on which the text can be built. This base can be political connoted, social, individual, biblical, fantasy, etc. It can have comic “clothes” or ironic, or both ; it can be deeply emotional, playful childish, dramatic or even revolutionary. First is the skeleton to have in your mind, then that skeleton gets “flesh and blood”, shape and forms, rhythm and rhyme and it’s starts living (when the muses are there and there is peace around you). If you have an idea, you better try to right it down before it’s gone, then you can use it later on. Our mind is the greatest “computer” and our soul gives the life. The universe is there, in us, just waiting to be discovered. I hope that I can help you and others who read this in their search for a wonderful play, which is poetry. One anonymous in the last cafe said very well : ” one poem a day, keeps doctor away ” and he has dam right !
I enclose for your perusal my idea of the poetic form.
This was written, as the author says, when he was 16 yrs old. He is now an Ass.Prof in Mathematics at my old Alma Mater and, yes, a one time friend.
This is what I mean by poetry. I am Welsh. In ancient Wales, the Bards – the masters of poetry and song – were the highest in the land. It took at least 7 years of intensive training to even get to apprenticeship stage, and years of work after that to being to becoming recognised.
There actually is a science, of rhythm and music, to poetry, hence my cringing, aching acid pain when I see some casual uninformed doggerel thrown together over a matter of minutes, with rhyming being the the major criteria, and being called “poetry”.
Alans’ piece isn’t perfect, – he was 16 after all – but it’s very good.
So I was wondering, which of the various forms do you use?
In Silent Dream
In silent dream my lonely spirit drifts
So once again I may upon you gaze,
And walk with you through dream-world’s silent haze,
As your soft words my lonesome heart do lift.
Your smile to me is as a precious gift
That soothes and comforts me in ev’ry way.
Your ghost-like form that haunts me all the day
I feel is real, as through my mind you drift.
But with the coming of the dawn it ends,
And I awake to realise ’tis so.
But I must bear the pain the day will send;
Yet to the world my strife I dare not show,
Until sweet sleep again my heart will mend,
And dream of lasting love I cannot know.
Copyright © 1974 Alan John Branford
This sonnet was written some time during 1974 when I was 15 or 16 years old. It reveals the turmoil my soul was in trying to reconcile my homosexual attraction to other boys and the prevailing societal attitudes.
This sonnet is written in a strict Petrarchan form, with a total of only four rhymes, two in the octet and two in the sestet. The classical Petrarchan structure of A B B A A B B A C D C D C D has been used. The adherence to this formal structure is intended to give to poem the solemnity that it deserves.
It is intriguing to compare this sonnet with the sonnet “Thinking of Daniel”, which was written over 40 years later in July 2016, in the same Petrarchan form. The specific story told in the latter would appear to have influenced the former.
(July 2016)
“I use prose, poetry, reason, rhyme, herstory and history, stories, games, relationships, numerology, astrology, tarot, paradigms, schematics, drawings, cards, religions, politics, polemics and much more to describe love.”
Reminds me of the strength and weakness of Sagittarius, the table of perception is filled to the maximum.
The remedy is where Saturn presents the narrow door or nozzle of the funnel to the anchor-place . With 76, short of 77, the Saturn of your vintage was in Aries. Anchor solo in the wilderness, is what it’s saying to all Sagittariusses that year.
Like already said, I appreciate you neighborship.
I came here after the coup in Ukraine and miss the old guard that was here. I still study the civil war. It is not hot, but people still die.
I want to send a warm thought to JJ, Elsi and Martin and many others, whose names I haven’t seen in a while.
The blog has changed in more ways than one. New contributors are very welcome, but where are the old ones? Mulgamumblebrain, who educated me about some things? Andrew, who knows Ukraine, and seldom appears now? There are many others.
The blog is great, but I miss reporting about Donbass. It would be great if Saker takes a look at what happens there.
Hopefully, JJ will come back. I also miss kinterra and Kim and S113. Where are you folks ?
Hiya ioan
just posted re ukr “proposed” missile testing on saker article what is ukraine up to…….I have been deep in thought………!!!!!
Take care and enjoy the day…………keep on truckin………
They are still around, occasionally, but Kim is gone for good unless he’s gone back to anonymity after the Quigley debacle.
Poems and personal asides have largely replaced news and politics in the cafe, and I suspect that posters primarily interested in current affairs have therefore stopped posting here.
Hey Anon,
This sounds like a cop-out. If the tenor of the Café has changed, it is because they no longer post here. If they posted interesting questions, then I don’t doubt they would get some interesting answers. The café is a cultural democracy, Anarchistic almost, where it is what we make it. If the Majority want to discuss spiritual matters, then that is what happens. If more people want to discuss geopolitics, then the conversation will evolve. So Anon, post an interesting question, and let’s see if we can bring some old friends back.
I concur to that suggestion too, being sufficiently open to any questions, be it political, philosophical or anything which keeps my attention.
Hi ioan (and JJ),
Nice to get in touch again! Geopolitically, it’s getting a bit intense for me (but not on the streets around here particularly, which still impresses me – nice job by someone!!) I’m taking a bit of a break from commenting. It’s really, really intense in Canada politically right now in my opinion. Which may be just a normal level of intensity in Germany or the UK, but for me, it’s a bit uncomfortable. :-) I miss kinterra and Kim, too – although I have noticed a few very perceptive anonymous posts which reminded me of Kim??
(After submitting my comment, I received an email with this news release)
“US Vice-president Joe Biden to Visit Canada”
http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2016/11/29/us-vice-president-joe-biden-visit-canada
Eep. It’s just tense right now.
O Canada indeed! But infiltrated as Canada has become by the Anglo-Zionists and their dogs, the Ukrainians for one, is there any way for it to go but down?
There was a telling interview with the head of CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) and Mansbridge of the C(IA)BCa few years ago. The head of CSIS looked in breakdown mode but managed to blurt out…”Canada has been infiltrated”. Loyal old Peter (Mansbridge) went to a break. After the break… crickets. As if it had never happened.
Then, in one of the debates during the last Canadian election, future PM Hairdo mentioned, glowingly, the ‘Five Eyes’. He was proud, clearly, to soon become a member of that club.
He did not finish the name of that august organization by adding ‘Plus Israel’.
Perhaps no one had briefed him yet.
But he certainly learned well on the job since.
Franz,
Canada is a great loss, especially as one of the more progressive of the Anglo countries. You never had a chance though, the extreme gravity of your southern neighbour was always going to make achieving escape velocity near impossible. Australia was compromised a long time ago, caught with Micronesia and Guam voting to protect Israel in the UN. We are the House Negros of the US Empire; allowed to live in our Master’s house, but living in shame before the rest of the world slaving in the fields. I stand at the window looking out at the suffering, and I envy their honour and humanity.
When I think of Canada and Australia, I see us through the eyes of an English Tommy who wrote home in 1918. By this late stage, the European powers had been bled white of all their best and brightest, and their armies were filled with C and D-class recruits. This human detritus stood decrepit and coughing on the side of the road in the rain, when the Aussies and the Canadians marched past heading to the front. We seemed like supermen to them; tall and strong, straight backs and firm jaws. We were the best the Empire could muster; the assaulting element in all the victories of late 1918 which led to the collapse of the German front.
We are the White Gurkha, crack Imperial mercenaries always sent to the place the Empire needs us the most.
In every city, town and small hamlet in Australia stands a white cross above a plaque of sacrificed sons. When is enough, enough Franz?
One final note (now I can’t stop talking!!)… So a Canadian Air Force pilot died yesterday during training in Canada, while flying a F-18. The Chief of Defence Staff issued a statement earlier today:
“Every day, members of the Canadian Armed Forces prepare themselves for the responsibility of shielding their fellow citizens from harm. The training is both rigourous and demanding. It has to be.
” Sadly, that training has claimed the life of one of our own. … To his comrades and coworkers at 4 Wing Cold Lake, I offer my sympathy. I encourage you to seek solace and support during this difficult time.”
Now, the word “comrades” there. … It just seems like there’s a bit of a tone to this message.
I’m going to look up the locations of all the aircraft carriers. :-) Just quits tense.
The only ‘harm’ I worry about is from the Anglo-Zionist Empire and their dogs the Banderist Ukrainians of CIA Nulandistan… and Alberta. Are you suggesting that ‘Commies’ have infiltrated the Canuckistani AF?
Respectfully, Franz the captain of clever, catchy vaguely Canadian related blather…
I’ll draw my conclusions from the actual events that I see taking place, no matter how much hair the PM has or how its shaped. Enough already. And with that,its not (further) comment for me.
You certainly have a peculiarly ad-hominem orientated concept of ‘respect’.
I will take your attempted riposte as an unconditional surrender.
The hairdo of Canada’s vacuous Prime Minister was the weakest part of my argument.
I allowed myself that comment in the interests of levity.
You clearly have no reply to the more significant parts of my statement.
Lost in translation
Anarchy is not chaos
But life without lord
Satire by PaulCraig Roberts:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/28/dear-president-putin/
Thanks. I enjoyed that.
Good sense of humor by Roberts. Rich irony.
Bro 93, pulled this from the last café….
“Internal Monarchy, External Anarchy. Freedom. Love.”
Great position. I wanted to unpack your idea of an internal monarchy. Yes we are sovereign, and I guess the dominant personality sits on our internal throne. I prefer the vision of an authoritarian democracy, Putin-style. I have a least the two personalities, the buttoned-down, university-educated professional family man, and the (internally these days) long-haired heavy metal practically-alcoholic party animal. Society would have me suppress the ‘other’ Earthrise, especially at my age! But I feel I would have to setup an internal dictatorship to shut down that part of me, and anyway that part has all the fun!
I call him The Animal, and I feel that we should all let our Animal out every now and then to roam free under the moon. I could repress him, but I don’t want to. I also move along the internal Masculine-Feminine spectrum fairly freely, and I would not like to impose controls there either. I know a monarchy can be benign, but I would not like The Animal to run the show. Good Earthrise moves successfully through society, ticks all the boxes and achieves all the KPIs. Naughty Earthrise likes his food and drink too much, has a wandering eye and gets up to very age-inappropriate actions. Like with everything, balance is key. So Good Earthrise does sit on my internal throne; the Animal sits behind, whispering and goading, always reminding to Carpe Diem.
I love the Animal, and I never want him to go away.
Reading that description, no wonder that you are thinking of voting for “One Nation” and prefer the children to be raised by a community. Sure would be better.
This is why I have nothing against the children being raised together with another rellatives for them to have more opportunities to get out unharmed.
A poem:
Ioan, if you do this…go slow.. add one rotation a week until you reach 21.
Turn, turn, turn
Whirl daily, practice moving clockwise
arms outstretched, palms float on pulling spin
The tight clench of armored self away flies
As the heart, freed, beats renewed again.
Turn, turn turn dervish nights
Whirling feet stamping steady rhythm clockwise
outstretched arms, palms pulled into floating spin
the tight clench of self dares suddenly to fly
As the heart, freed, beats renewed again.
This is why I love this Vineyard :
Vineyard
I feel the rhythm, I hear the song
If there is music, what could be wrong
It’s good to have so many friends
With whom to laugh, to cry and dance
To share the news and play the cards
With good players and brilliand minds
To learn from you as in the school
And move myself like a chess fool
Jumping straight in swimming pool
Is good to be here with you
Exposing lies and speak the truth
To share the values of our freedom
In this Vineyard, Saker’s kingdom
With some musical nurture : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74LXx0wSqMI
The video features the feminine voice and the feminine form, possibly the most beautiful form in nature. For there is none other that we know of on planet earth that combines the visible, physically beautiful form with the invisible quality of holistic intelligence, a beautiful mind.
Add to body and mind the beauty of spirit (True Care, The Goddess, the Sacred Feminine) and you have a triune aesthetic that melts the hardest masculine heart and inspires it to be better, and to do more.
The video ends with boats and the sea, something I know something about. While the ancients gods may be masculine (Poseidon, Neptune) the salty sea itself, the origin of life on earth, seems feminine in our psyches. A symbol of the Sacred Feminine is the equilateral triangle with one angle pointing down, an obvious anatomical reference. This symbol is called “The Chalice” and is the compliment to the Sacred Masculine “Spade”, an equilateral triangle with one angle pointed up.
Boats and ships which ply the surface of the sea are called “vessels”. The Chalice is also a vessel. While the captains are almost always males, the vessels they navigate through the sea are most frequently given female names. Spouses, lovers, the best reasons not to get reckless and stupid at sea, but to guide their vessels safely back into port.
I also liked your poem. And look forward to your Ode to Love.
Lovely imagery Bro,
I wrote a reply to Ioan’s fantastic poem three times, but I could not find the words. I never thought of us as the Vineyard, but I do now. “To share the news and play the cards; With good players and brilliant minds”, keeps me coming back. I truly believe one word can change your life.
Bro, your analogy of the Captain and his Vessel adroitly sums up the goodness of Paternity; the drive to protect and defend. But what finally inspired me to answer Ioan’s post was your depiction of the feminine form as the most beautiful thing on Earth; in the Universe I might add. Now I know my genes are doing the talking here, but I wholeheartedly agree. A woman with her light shining can literally stop your heart, or that is what if feels like to me. And the feminine within us all contains what is beautiful about the Human Spirit. What kind of man would not lay down their life to protect that?
Hmmm. You have a point. They do call it “The Miss Universe Pageant”, don’t they?
And since self-love is a pre-requisite to more universal love, that pageant naming is a useful example of species self-love, inspired by some dozens of the finest young females competing for “fairest of them all”.
But they are all over this lucky old earth, rolling through space.
With billions of riders on it, of the most beautiful human race.
And here’s one of those fabulous females, singin’ a Man’s Song, better than any Woman’s Son:
https://youtu.be/cTgkAzbXQqU
That Lucky Old Sun
Up in the mornin’ out on the job, work like the devil for my pay
But that lucky old sun has nothin’ to do
But roll around heaven all day
Fuss with my woman toil for my kids
Sweat ’til I’m wrinkled and gray
While that lucky old sun has nothin’ to do
But roll around heaven all day
Good Lawd above, can’t you know I’m pinin’
Tears all in my eyes
Send down that cloud with a silver linin’
Lift me to paradise
Show me that river
Take me across and wash all my troubles away
Like that lucky old sun, give me nothin’ to do
But roll around heaven all day
Up in the mornin’ out on the job,
Work like the devil for my pay
But that lucky old sun has nothin’ to do
But roll around heaven all day
Fuss with my woman toil for my kids
Sweat ’til I’m wrinkled and gray
While that lucky old sun has nothin’ to do
But roll around heaven all day
Good Lawd above, can’t you know I’m pinin’
Tears all in my eyes
Send down that cloud with a silver linin’
Lift me to paradise
Show me that river
Take me across and wash all my troubles away
Like that lucky old sun, give me nothin’ to do
But roll around heaven all day
(You lucky old son of a gun!)
to moderator: sorry did not mean to post twice..got interrupted.
@ Bro 93, Isabella and Phil
Falstaff – Now, Master Shallow, you’ll complain of me to the king?
Shallow – Knight, you have beaten my men, killed my deer, and broke open my lodge.
Falstaff – But not kissed your daughter.
Shallow – Tut, a pin! this shall be be answered.
Falstaff – I will answer it straight; I have done all this. That is now answered.
Dennis – I love you too.
Stein in cahoots with Clinton… tree huggers…. always the same.
One-issue parties are easy sell-outs to the highest bidder, therefore unreliable and useless for political change. They also fragment the opposition to the system that endangers the environment, which they are supposed to fight for. But useful though to the promoters as a stepping stone to a political parasite career.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/29/foodanddrink/russia-food/index.html
Dining under Putin: How sanctions are fueling a Russian food revolution
By Melinda Joe, CNN
Updated 0516 GMT (1316 HKT) November 29, 2016
Russia has always had a great tradition of making tasty meals from very little.
Where else would you find fried eggs with jam, gelatinous aspic creations or almost microscopically chopped “okroshka” soups on the menu?
With Moscow in the grip of sanctions that have hit menus hard — President Vladimir Putin has restricted foreign food imports in retaliation over Western economic embargoes — a dramatic culinary revolution is underway as chefs return to Soviet-era inventiveness to get food on the table.
The results are both surprising and delicious.
etc……
Doesn’t matter what the imperial mouth-pieces say, they ought not to be allowed in polite company, as in Café Saker. Why promoting our archetypical enemies? Their praises are poisonous!
Its a list of a few interesting restaraunts in Moscow, which may be useful for visiting non-Russians…
wonderful poem from The Duran:
An Ode to WaPo
by Adam Garrie
I used to read the Washington Post
To see which liberal cause I admired most
But instead I made a sizable donation
To the decent folk at the Clinton Foundation.
They said in doing so I could author my own legislation.
I told them I oppose terrorism and support the Syrian Regime
That on droning Julian Assange, I was not keen
Suddenly they said that I was working for the Russia State
I thought to myself, ‘wouldn’t that be great’.
Far better than working for Saudi and Qatar,
That would be a bridge to far.
But when presidential candidates are by Wahhabist regimes bought and sold
Their talk of human rights is worth its weight in fool’s gold.
Thanks tera13, this man has done a very good job with this poem. And thanks for your poems also !
I agree it is a very good poem. Ironic. Nice!
I wonder if the Duran (I know about it, but have never visited it, barely having time enough to keep up with everything here….) has a “Cafe”? Or did the poem just get offered in a normal comments section?
In reading Eliason’s new article today about the information war, and the way things are certain to escalate, to attempt to shut down this site and scores of other “unapproved” ones, my thought was, “Well GH is certainly doing his job. Even before the swamp drains one foot “aweisburd” and Joel Harding are exposed snipers for the NWO, their helmets and rifle ends sticking out of the “liberally” NAZI muck. They will be trying to take Saker out. Besides sending money how do those of us that like it here help take them out? Helping Bannon drain the swamp? Or maybe stopping him because he offends our particular ideology? How about personal defense? That starts with the persons that are most clearly allied, personally, with Saker (who contribute articles he clearly agrees with) and ends with commenters that the thought police might go after next, if they take down the Vineyard. Concentrating on one’s own vulnerabilities seems like a loser proposition. Like CI eh! said many months ago, “If Putin and Russia go down, ordinary people in the west are permanent slaves. We’re toast.”
So, you have to think strategically, like CI Eh! Our departed Canadian friend. I miss him.
But, while you concentrate on the big picture, you don’t want to be recklessly stupid, personally, either. You can’t let fear force you into your own little fox hole, which is zero effective safety even in the medium term. Nor stop thinking, and just cross your fingers, also out of fear. That’s losing the war, within yourself.
But one can also be prudent, take certain measures that increase one’s courage and effectiveness in the global war for civilization, against the Empire of Deceit, Fear and Self-Loathing and the psychopathic occultocracy that runs their degraded minions such as “aweisburd” and “Joel Harding”.
Recount of votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania is basis for a donation scam, or grandstanding so that no one forgets you exist, Jill Stein, but the political left is quick to point out that Republicans are sore losers, and tweet that Governor McCrory, of North Carolina should withdraw his recount bid when the vote difference was less than 10,000, a margin less than in those states listed above. You know, this kind of in-your-face duplicity has been going on for as long as I can remember, and even before my time. Question for them is, “Don’t you think we’ve had enough and we are sick of your machinations?” I was done with you after I saw how you mishandled everything after the assassination of JFK. You know damned well how awful that was, there’s no denying it was a total botch-up from start to finish. And it’s not just for the United States. This is global, and if that’s not an issue for you, ignore it at your own peril because we’re not going to use our breakaway lances, we’re going to run you straight through when we unhorse you. There is no irony here because annihilation has always been the consequence of the violation of the cosmic order, the author of which is almighty God, and you KNOW it.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/hillary-lawyer-calls-nc-gop-governor-stop-recount-even-though-race-tighter-wi-mi-pa
Meanwhile, this Jill Stein fiasco forges ahead while, finally, democrats are voicing opinion contrary to the plans to derail the election of Donald Trump. Here’s Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias saying, “Because we had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology, we had not planned to exercise this option ourselves.” So, Marc, what are you guys going to do, stand by for some coat holding instead of getting into it? The answer would be a Yes. And here’s Joe Trippi, democrat strategist who worked the Howard Dean 2004 campaign putting in his oar: “It’s a waste of time and money. It is not going to change anything,” and he goes on,saying, “I think it probably was the Stein people looking for a way to stay relevant, raise some money and take the stink off of them. Instead of everybody screaming, ‘You made Trump happen,’ she is counting the votes to change that whole narrative.”
Gee, isn’t this one of the reasons why the founders warned us so sternly about allowing political parties to form and get their noses into the tent? I think so.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/angry-dems-dismiss-steins-recount-effort-its-waste-time-and-money
And speaking of tents, the way these two main parties have conducted themselves has been such a circus, but instead of folding their tents after the show in the big top is over, the arcade and the side shows continue in full swing! Twenty-one days remain until December 19, and I doubt it’s going to quieten down before then because their answer to the Hillary’s question is, “NO – HELL NO we aren’t going to accept a Trump victory!!”
The forecast is for gathering, bi-partisan political intrigue and conspiracy followed by darkening skies, and squalls of protest, likely to continue for the next 4 years. The only way for this to stop happening belongs to the people: misbehaving representatives and senators must be recalled, and replaced. Only you can do that and it starts with not re-electing the same “usual suspects.” After a senator consorts with terrorists who then disorganize the middle east, kill civilians by the tens of thousands and a litany of other crimes and sins, it’s time to find someone else for the job.
In the middle east, as you may already be aware, Aleppo is very close to falling.
/syrian-war-report-november-28-2016-syrian-govt-forces-liberate-about-40-of-east-aleppo/
It’s desperation time, even Congress throwing caution to the wind and pushing ahead with their no-fly zone. Good luck with enforcing that, Congress, because I don’t think that either Syria, or Russia are going to respect it, and you will have your asses handed to you if you try.
The propaganda narrative continues apace, even though perpetrators such as the so-called “white hats” have already been outed as provocateurs, cutthroats, and con artists. Take a look at this image; how many things can you find wrong with this picture?
http://www.greanvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/whiteHelmets-mannequins-740×411.jpg
They have been caught out, and said they’re sorry. Great. Now apologize!
http://www.greanvillepost.com/2016/11/24/error-of-judgement-white-helmets-apologize-for-war-zone-mannequin-challenge/
Thank you Vanessa Beeley for keeping us in the know about these shenanigans.
More later, and you know there will always be more and you won’t have to wait for it.
very important article…Iran is allowing Russian use of Najah airbase
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/syria-egypt-joins-fray-support-russia-backed-coalition/ri17881
Good morning to all. I invoke Love to awaken in all our hearts, as Jesus did, whoever we think he was, a particular man or a symbol for all of us as lovers.
Dylan said that we live in a political world. That means power backed up with violence. There are these two worlds: the world of love and the world of power.
Things are coming to a head in the world of power. There is a global power struggle between two classes, a cultural war. Russia and the Hegemon represent the stakes in this game.
The purpose of this vineyard is to “stop the Empire’s war on Russia.”
Here in the US, we are in danger of another civil war.
War is one of the main instruments of power. The army carries out the orders of war and power.
The Love Army represents the power of love which is radically different than the power of evil. Evil power attacks love, starting with the word itself. Evil operates by lies and deception.
The first order of the Love Army is to “think love.” This practice engages the mind with love. Knowledge is aligned with Love. The information war is placed in the context of love.
The second order of the Love Army is to bring diet into the play of love. The killing of animals is shown for what it is: the origin of evil. Eating them makes us killers and cannibals by the laws of associative energetics.
The Empire draws its strength from killing life. It vampires the blood of innocents. The expose of blood rituals and pedophilia in the news exposes the ancient satanic sacrificial need to feed on life, the younger and more pure the better.
In our ignorance and arrogance, we reject the gift of love in its purity and innocence. We become sick of the very word. We play directly into the hand of Empire, and when Empire calls our bets, there will be a terrible reckoning.
I have been storing food now for awhile. I can see the reset of love in the cards. There’s a slow train coming.
In a couple of weeks, I’m going to take the train to Wisconsin from here in S. California to where I was born and raised. It’s sort of a symbolic journey which I’ve done several times. Heartland to Coastland to Heartland… The Ojai Indian maiden meets the Tomah Indian chief somewhere in the area of Dodge City.
I’ll be in Wisconsin when the electoral college meets to make or break the system. I hope I can make it back here in one piece.
The light is now dawning. Another day, another lover. The Lover is the center of my thought. She represents all of us as lovers. She is behind the Love Government, the Love Army and the Love Bower. These are ideas, concepts, meta-narratives, symbols and signs for all of us as individual lovers.
Even if the world blows up or dies out, we are sovereign persons and lovers. Our own personal death witnesses to a universal process.
We have been tricked into becoming killers. The restoration program begins with embracing love, first on the verbal level and finally in the personal realm.
Love, love and more love.
Remember a few weeks ago when Kissinger was “elected” ( vote 6 to 5) by a committee of the Russian Academy to be a member? Looks as how the Russian academy is a sinecure scam for the Russian elite and Putin will have none of it!
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/11/the-rule-of-law-putin-dismisses-senior.html
Thanks Teranam13.
That explains why a Zionist war criminal was elected to the Russian Academy of Sciences – it is part of the 5th column.
I have been clobbered for suggesting that his only qualification to RAS was being a Jew although being a mass murderer might also be a boost for qualification. I have no means of checking the current composition of RAS but traditionally it was a hotbed for Jews, who dominated the cultural, intellectual and scientific institutions of the Soviet Union. Eventually Stalin introduced admission quota systems into higher education to combat the entrenched nepotic clubism favouring the Jew elite.
I am wondering if you would care to explain why it is that President Putin, who has demonstrated the utmost rectitude and integrity all of his adult life and most certainly during his tenure as “The Boss” refers to Kissinger, the “mass murderer” as you call him, as ” a friend, and someone I am very fond of”.Thanks. mod on duty.
@ Mod on Duty
Thank you for your advice about president Putin’s high regard for Mr. Henry Kissinger whom I labelled “mass murderer”; had anyone else told me that, probably I would not believe. Still, to my understanding of the world, it is a great mystery.
However, the fact that Mr. Putin has a different opinion to mine about Mr.Kissinger’s character and malevolence doesn’t alter his record or lessen his crimes, which I’m not going to repeat here out of deference to Mr. Putin and because it would take a lot of space and time. But they are well-known and easy to fill a long list with.
I have tried to find a rational way out of the conundrum you presented me with (why a person of the highest integrity calls Mr. Kissinger a friend whom he is fond of) but my moral compass limits my capacity to understand epistemic dissonance phenomena of that type and I regret to admit my failure.
But your challenge is of the highest order too!
My respects.
@ anon.
Re your conundrum over Mr Putin and his ‘fondness for Kissinger’…this is similar I think to the way that Mr Putin always refers to his challengers/opposition as partners, when most onlookers would categorise them as enemies.
Mr Putin is a Judoka, a discipline which seeks to instil, above all, a respect that is not driven by emotion for one’s opponent. Each bout is considered an opportunity to learn from a worthy opponent, win or lose. There is a good reason for this, in that cool, knowledgeable heads tend to prevail over the berserker types.
I haven’t previously heard about his fondness but I have heard Mr Putin acknowledge Kissinger’s deep geopolitical insight, which is a cold, hard reality, regardless of the murderous interests Kissinger has chosen to serve.
My martial arts teacher, a Korean of the utmost skill and integrity, was never too proud to learn from anybody. He was on a steep learning curve in multiple diverse areas, until the day he died.
@Anon
I am moved to tears by all this good advice, and you’d better too.
Isn’t it as if our revered Ignatij Beltranovich himself had raised
again and spoken his mighty: Repent, all ye unfaithful! Respectum
perinde ac cadaver necessest!
In cases as this one, prostrating yourself into the mud from which
you once were made and humbly mumbling ‘I confess, I am but an bsshole’
is the only option.
Thanks Anon. But I don’t follow anyone’s advice, including yours, which is not meant to be followed anyway, on the contrary! I don’t play games of any sort – judo, chess or politics – and don’t prostrate myself perinde ac cadaver either. But I have been silenced sometimes for stepping outside the bounds of accepted dogma, for playing with words and similar deviations.
Hello Anon,
I would firstly council the Vineyard against dropping J-Bombs everywhere, I don’t think it is tactically smart. You won’t get much argument here about the role the Tribe plays within the AZ Empire, so all references to this here are largely wasted on the Choir. But our enemies are already shaping up to tar us, the Alt-Right, Tumpistas and any other pole of Resistance as anti-Semites. Now we don’t shy from calling out the Truth as we see it, but I think it would be smarter to use Zionists (my preference because it also includes the other religious nuts the Evangelical Christians), or the Tribe (which I am playing with at the moment). It will get to the stage that if trolls come here in numbers dropping anti-Semitic rants, I would council the Mods to restrict it for tactical reasons.
The Putin question is a tough one. He has form busting the Tribe’s oligarchs in Russia, but at the same time protects Jewish (and all other) minorities within Russia’s borders. He is also very aware of the strength of the Jewish/Russian Diaspora, especially in Israel. If Russia has been given Israel by the Empire, then this diplomatic handling of Kissinger makes more sense. In the end though, there are no ‘friends’ in geopolitics, only interests. It is in Putin’s interest to call Kissinger a friend, doesn’t make it true. On the other hand, Kissinger the “mass murderer” is as True as it gets.
I wrote a comment on your comment, tongue-in-cheek, about careless English, deeply frowned upon by my teachers, Fowler and Partridge, whose diktats I occasionally infringe too, and made a comparison with a little tete-a-tete with SanctuaryOne when he made a brave escapade into French quicksands and was scolded by your truly in his capacity of guardian of bon mots. But he had a good excuse, busy as he was with the intricacies of Slavonic studies. For monolingual English speakers it is unpardonable. By the way, my comment was lost – perhaps irony is sometimes misunderstood or to save tender susceptibilities from embarrassment?
Cheers
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It is on such occasions that I miss Straight-Back – my misnomer for a dear friend who hates hypocrites, calls a spade a spade, straight as a ramrod and never bends to the wind of political correctness or the fads of the chattering class. Au revoir mon ami!
Indeed, where is Straight Back ? I hope he will come back, cause he has a good track and in my view, a good rank.
Telepathy or what?
I was trying to remember the handle of exactly this poster – mainly by process of elimination – only today ( on the issue of warfare being integral – or not – to capitalism.)
All I could recall was that it began with ‘S’.
I mentally ticked off ‘not Spiral….not Sancuary One….not S113..’ But couldn’t recall it.
‘Straight Back’ is if course ‘Straight Bat!’
Thanks for the jog guys. :-)
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The sun has just risen above the eastern hills. I want to talk about something before breakfast. I noticed the icon of the nativity of Christ from the 15th century on the right sidebar.
I am reminded that this is the season of advent in many Christian cultures. It was a big deal when I was growing up. There was much joy in the anticipation of Christmas. One of the attractive beauties of this site is the underlying Christian culture that dovetails with my own.
Thank for this reminder. I’m going soon to my relatives in Wisconsin who are still very much committed to traditional Catholicism. I’m sort of the black sheep of the family. I moved away to California and to radical changes while they remain much the same. It really feels good to reconnect with those values here and with my family roots.
I think that the idea of Christianity has to change and develop to become relevant in this world. It should be doing something to stop war for one thing but it is largely impotent in such important matters. Well that’s another project.
For now I want to get into the advent mood. Jesus is a symbol for the advent changes we need. I call him She’sus to give him a more universal status. He had many feminine qualities and attracted women and children because of his human love, and resistance to the Empire of his time.
He was born in a manger. Imagine that. Poor, homeless and vulnerable. Imagine. That shows much. I don’t think poverty is the answer but simplicity and enjoying basic needs are. I try to live simply but the fact is that in my advanced age I am dependent on social security provided by the state.
I live far from my family and also am separated from them in views and lifestyle. I live in a community here but we are not close in ideas about fundamental issues. Still, if worse comes to worse, it is a community of sorts.
We have a community of sorts here also in the cyber world. Ironically, it is based on war, and those cracks show up regularly but are moderated with great skill. The long and short of it is that I am blessed with love in many ways.
The advent of love is what I wish for myself and the world. We “advented” on this planet with love as our founding gift. Jesus advented a couple of millenia ago with love as his fundamental message. The Love Army and Love Bower advented here with the same message, but now spelled out with Empire shattering specifications.
We rejected our original gift. We rejected Jesus’s message of the manger for consumerism. And so far we are rejecting the Love Army. We have become a band of rejects but like a manger Jesus, we have the simple seeds of love within us.
Those seeds have the potential to sprout and to move from the verbal to the virtue tree of life. By their fruits you will know them. By a fruit diet you will know them. We’re a long way from that but with love anything is possible. I send advent love to each and all.
Erdogan: Turkish forces are in Syria to end Assad’s rule
Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that the Turkish Army entered Syria to end the rule of President Bashar Assad, whom he accused of terrorism and causing the deaths of thousands.
The Syrian forces are gaining ground each hour passing in Aleppo. Erdogan must have great pains seeing that. Interesting times we live in, everything is changing so fast, sometimes I wonder if the chess players do they understand what is going on.
I believe what we are dealing with in most of our leaders is the ‘crocodilian’ brain.
The distance between Trudeau the First of Canada and Trudeau the Second (PM Hairdo) is the distance between walking upright and the primordial soup.
At this early stage, the best I can come up with is Turkey has supported and supplied these barbarians for years. There are training camps in Turkey, and this filth are wandering all across the Turkish border. Turkish troops are intermingled (and sometimes in plain clothes) with the unicorns of the Free Syrian Army. The loss of Aleppo, after no doubt the promises Turkey would have made to them, will hit morale hard and some of them will blame Turkey for not supporting them in the end. I’d suggest that Erdogan is trying to manage collapsing morale, and hoping to prevent blowback. At this stage I think this announcement is for internal consumption, though things around Al-Bab are very tense. In this post-Truth world, everything is ripples and shadows.
I would suggest that Erdogan is simply deranged.
The fact that he came out of the ‘coup’ intact has gone to his head and spurred him to greater ambitions. He has purged any military and political dissenters who might have counselled restraint and so has lost touch with reality.
He has already made verbal claims to vast swathes of Greece and other territories including parts of Syria, surrounding Turkey.
His incipient megalomania is becoming full-blown and it is clear that he respects nothing and no-one except the voices in his power crazed head.
I agree that it is time to think about Best Guy (Christ) rather than Best Buy, with the advent of Christmas.
Meanwhile, I am bracing myself for the coming disappearance/desertion by the disobeyed leader of the Love Army. It must be rough for him to be rebuffed by the Beauty Battalion. However, while He is a man, his truest spirit maybe a She, which is OK with me, since I don’t see this complicating public bathroom law at all, as I hope that such law only pertains to bodies, not minds or spirits.
Interesting that the AWOL escape will take place on a choo-choo. Other than St Petersburg to Moscow, and Munich to Firenze (both round trips) and Cairo to Luxor I’m a little lean on rail travel. Ships are my thing. The Sea. The womb of the earth. You got it inside of you. You’re about 75% water.
I can visualize Dennis humming,
“I ride on a mail train, baby, can’t buy a thrill.
I been up all night darlin’, leanin’ on a window sill.
Well if I die on top of the hill,
Well if I don’t make it, you know my baby will.
Don’t that brakeman look good, mama
Flaggin’ down the double EEs
Don’t that sun look good, goin’ down over the sea,
Ah, don’t my gal look fine, now, comin’ after me?”
And I can understand why he doesn’t want that soul train to go 300 mph.
However when that is the only train there is, there is always Route 66. Before taking off to Santa Minnesota/Wisconsin via Santa Monica on 66, stop in at 77 Sunset Strip:
https://youtu.be/WrrcSieqMH8
The lyrics are not complex (4 words) http://www.televisiontunes.com/77_Sunset_Strip.html
But the sax is the best part.
Then soak up the soul of the West and Midwest before you retreat to Mother Midwest in winter like a Russian Army luring the invader deep within her cold embrace. Take your time!
Knowing that the Love Millitia that will not obey you is mustering. Defining what Love is and is not. Composing the Ode to Love. And loving you in its own way!
And You Know Love: It goes ALL the way!
Thanks for the panegyric. I’m not gone yet. I turn 77 on December 10, the day Dylan was supposed to accept his Nobel. In 1977, I hung out a bit on Sunset Strip. Came out here in 76, returned to Wisconsin from 81 to 88 and then returned here. Highway 66 went right through the center of Stevens Point, my home town, as did Highway 51, which Dylan covered.
You are more the Man than I am. I’m more of an also-ran, a copy-cat fan. I’m no leader or commander of anything. I just get crazy ideas and am foolish enough to share them. Being dis-obeyed is my second nature. In that regard, I stand in the Jesus tradition.
I swear to Love, I woke up this morning with the bible in my brain. Over and over went the refrain: “Don’t throw your pearls before swine, lest they turn and gore you.” Jesus didn’t heed his own advice.
Today starts another week in the Love liturgical calendar, jumping to Joy, the Fool card, from the 7×7 structural grid to the wild card at the top of the line along with the Holy and High card. Over and over goes the chant: “build a house; it’s pure joy.”
I see Saker is calling for researchers on Orthodoxy. For me and my house, Love is Orthodoxy; an absolute and “straight doxy” if there ever was one. I’d love to do for Catholicism what Saker is doing for Orthodoxy. Maybe that’s why I have to go to Wisconsin and my roots.
Damn. I wish to hell I knew what was going on. Well, maybe not because I’m likely to screw it up. I feel like Mr. Jones. “I was all right until I fell in love with you.” Not you personally but the universal you, singular and plural.
What the hell is with this vineyard? It gets so few views in comparison with others in the millions. Again, that’s a blessing. I’m deceived with numbers.
The sun is up. I’m thinking of that cup. The one that came before all the uppity pyramids. The one that Jesus chose to sup. The one with thirty pieces of silver beside it. Advent led to the Last Supper. An Essay on Man who rejected Love’s original plan. I’m going, going, gone. “Don’t it feel good when she’s comin’ after me?”
Love, love and more love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>…
“I was all right until I fell in love with you.” Not you personally but the universal you, singular and plural.”
Denis, your “universal you” reminds me of a poem, I wrote in autumn 1980 couple of months before I met my wife and astrology:
Autumn 1980
visiting places
secret spirit
of people
invading
secret of their lifes
their power
mary you
you everywhere
dreamers, immersed
of all times
poets of all senses
painters of all sounds
for us saved over
remenbrance
far voice of
original society
of paradise
legend of jewisch tribes
places of our
brothers and women
in stone-age
Not the warriers
protect remembrance
to pass or to
release us out of the
wheel of history
when we bear
the great dying
which is imposed upon
our coming home
into the wilderness
of spirit and dream
by the ruler of
history
An intriguing article from 2008 detailing the sales of arms to Georgia by Israel – mainly as a result of the 29-year old ex-pat Israeli Georgian Defence Minister’s contacts with the Israeli arms sector:
http://isteve.blogspot.ie/2008/08/israeli-connection-personal-rather-than.html?m=1
Washington Post Fake news:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html
I have taken upon my self to correct some of the words used by Craig Timber:
The MSM spread fake news
“The Alt. Media and Wikileaks have essentially eroded the faith in the U.S. government, the MSM and exposed the shadow Cabal. This has been their standard mode since 9/11.”
Cabal Agents such as Watts, Andrew Weisburd, J.M. Berger, working through War on the Rocks, PropOrNot, are now recognizing the effectiveness of 200 Alt. media news sites.
Cabal Agents, CIA, NSA, Google and Facebook are using Internet analytics tools to trace the origins of all tweets and map the connections among social-media users that deliver synchronized messages, phrases or sentences echoed by sites and social-media users in rapid succession, confirming the surveillance of all citizens, by the cabal.
During the US election, The Alt. Media, uploaded articles online with the goal of Exposing Hillary Clinton and strengthening American democracy, say the Cabal Agents.
The Alt. Media and social-media users — shared facts across the Internet, thus exposing Clinton as a criminal, that she was trying to hide her fatal health problems, and that she was preparing to hand control of the nation to The cabal, the global financiers.
The Alt. Media also exposed US and NATO provocations and Clintons war with Russia.
The Alt. Media used the internet to inform U.S. Voters during the election process, as Donald Trump harnessed a wide range of grievances against Washington.
The Election process was affected by hackers penetrating the computers of the DNC in several states and Wikileaks releasing troves of hacked emails that Exposed Clinton in the final months of the election campaign.
200 websites was in opposition to the lies of Washington, during the election season, with an audience of 15 million Americans. On Facebook, news promoted by the Alt. Media was viewed more than 213 million times.
Some players in the online debate were part of the election campaign while others were Internet Trolls— people or institutions who are paid to assist US. Gov. Cabal Propaganda.
During this election season, the Alt. Media worked by providing the online world with facts that is chocking and enraging, and confirms how a conspiracy dictates world events.
However, most stories originated from the Cabal-funded MSM with a deceiving style and tone of independents. These news sites used social-media accounts to cause Google algorithms to identify them as “trending Topics” topics, which were instantly broadcasted on the MSM TV. The speed and coordination of these efforts was for Cabal-propaganda to drown out Alt. Media news, to US voters.
The first alarming reports of Clintons collapsed at a Sept. 11 memorial event in New York, came from the Alt. Media.
This followed a series of other reports in August about Clinton’s troubled health.
The Cabal-Daily Beast tried to debunk the report in an article that reached 1,700 Facebook accounts and was read online 30,000 times. But the PropOrNot Agents found that reports from the Alt. Media reached 90,000 Facebook accounts and was read more than 8 million times.
The Cabal Agents said the Daily Beast claim was like “shouting into a hurricane” of reports from the Alt. Media.
This Alt. Media also reported that Bus Loads of protester was paid thousands of dollars to participate in anti-Trump demonstrations, in a Video expose made by Project Veritas.
The Cabal Agents traced the folowing reports to the Alt. Media.—
1) a Fake coup launched from the NATO Incirlik Air Base in Turkey.
2) How the US was planning to conduct a military attack on Turkey, and blame it on Russia —
The final weeks of the campaign featured Alt. Media reports of election irregularities, vote-rigging, pre and post Election organized violence while Trump won the election.
“The way the Alt media supported Trump was equivalent to the massive Cabal MSM monopoly, to support their candidate Clinton,” said the executive Agent of PropOrNot, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid being criticised for being a stooge for the Cabal.
“It was like the Alt. Media was running a super PAC against the lies from Hillary. . . .and It worked.”
A former U.S. Agent Michael A. McFaul, said he was angry over the support that Putin expressed for Trump during the campaign. McFaul is now director of the Freemasonic Neocon Stanford University.
McFaul said Russia typically aims at exposing warmongers. “The Russians don’t try to argue, they only state the Facts.” Trump’s victory, celebrated by Putin and Russia, was an expected blowback by a majority inside the United States.
Dmitry Peskov, press secretary for Putin, has denied interfering in the U.S. election or hacking the computers of the DNC and the Clinton Foundation.
RT Anna Belkina, disputed the claims from Cabal Agents in an e-mail on Friday, saying RT played no role in producing or amplifying any falls reports related to the U.S. election. “It is the height of a blaming the victim strategy that the Washington Post creates an article about “fake news” built on such false and unsubstantiated claims, what real journalist calls Propaganda.
The Cabal Agents claim about the Alt. Media track previous claim by the Cabal Rand Corp. and the Cabal George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs.
“The Alt Media use the internet and the US constitution against the Cabal in Washington, to sow doubt,” said GWU Professor Robert Orttung. “It’s starting to undermine our Fascist MO.”
The Cabal Rand Corporation connects the Alt. Media’s current generation of online reports to the 2008 Georgia/US/Israeli attack on neighbouring South Ossetia, when Russia sought to mitigate Western propaganda claims of Russian aggression, by stating the Facts online.
The Alt. Media helped shape international opinions about Crimea’s 2014 election to annex with Russia, and the US alliance of ISIS mercenary terror against Syria.
The Alt Media also worked to promote the “Brexit” departure of Britain from the European Union.
Another moment, several Cabal Agents say, came in 2011 when the Russian President Vladimir Putin was accused by Soros of rigging the Russian elections, by arresting Soros´s Pussy Riots on charges of obscenities, which Obama and Hillary supported.
President Putin, announced his desire to “break the Cabal-Anglo-Saxon-monopoly of Propaganda” during a 2013 visit to RT, formerly known as Russia Today.
“For Russia, it’s actually an Information war, a clash between Lie and Truth,” said Sufian Zhemukhov, a former US Agent in Russia conducting research at GWU. “ They’re just trying to mitigate Western propaganda lies against Russia.”
Both the MSM and RT broadcasts news reports worldwide in several languages, and the most effective way it reaches any audiences is online.
RTs English-language YouTube channel, launched in 2007, has 1.85 million subscribers and has had a total of 1.8 billion views, (since when to when?) making it more widely viewed than CNN’s YouTube channel, according to the Cabal-George Washington University.
Though claimed by the Cabal to be a propaganda organ, RT has gained credibility with the Americans. Trump was interviewed by RT in September. Trumps nominee for national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn was invited along with Putin, last year, to a gala sponsored by the RT. He later compared RT to CNN.
The information from Russian sites has offered real facts for U.S.-based websites working to debunk US propaganda lies.
A renegade from the alt. News site, the Next News Network, claimed he was instructed by the site’s founder, Gary S. Franchi Jr., to connect reports from MSM sources such as the Associated Press and the Los Angeles Times with ones from RT, Sputnik and others articles that spread explosively online.
“The readers are more likely to share the fake stories, thus they’re more profitable,” said Dyan Bermeo, who claims he helped assemble scripts and book guests for Next News Network before leaving because of being fired for disloyalty.
During a Facebook live discussion, reporter Caitlin Dewey explained how all News Sites, including the MSM use Facebook as a vehicle to make money.
In the closing weeks of the campaign, Election Day and its aftermath — the YouTube audience of Next News Network has jumped from a few hundred thousand views a day to a few million, according to analytics firm Tubular Labs.
In October, videos from Next News Network were viewed more than 56 million times.
Founder Gary Franchi said in an e-mail statement that Next News Network seeks “a global perspective” while providing commentary aimed at U.S. audiences, with regard to military activity. “Understanding the threat of global war is the first step to preventing it,” he said, “and we know that our coverage assisted in preventing World War III.”
The Alt. Media’s exposure has effectively sowed distrust in U.S. Cabal leaders.
Could censoring the Internet have prevented Trump’s win?
The Anonymous Agent and other Cabal Agents now express concern that the U.S. government has too few tools for detecting and combating dissent. They expressed hope that their Fake News story about Russian propaganda interference is designed to spur Cabal lawmakers to instate internet censorship.
The Alt. Media may complicate efforts by the Cabal Facebook and Google to censor any opposition, as they have vowed to do, after complaints from The Cabal and their MSM.
@ A Dane
Your redaction has improved the script enormously, made it more intelligible and pleasant to read. Thank you,
Thank You.
The redaction started out as a play of words, but ended up showing how Cabal Agents like Craig Timber and the MSM distort reality, by changing specific words.
Such scribble is not journalistic reporting, it I pure propaganda.
That makes Mr. Timber an Agent for the Cabal. An agenda he cunningly avoids in his article.
The redacted article shows that the MSM (deep down inside) knows the real facts, otherwise it would be impossible to come up with the totally opposite opinion of the original article, by merely changing some of the words, and pinpoint who the players (portrayed in the article) really are.
The redacted article also exposes the line of thinking, executed by the Cabal, and their Agents.
They believe that people are not wise enough to realize, that the purpose of writing such propaganda, is for the Cabal Lawmakers to rush in and create more draconian censorship.
It is a psychological operation in progress by the MSM, and paid for by the Cabal.
A. Dane
“A Dane” did a lot of good work correcting Craig Timber’s fallacies of composition. Actually, I would say Craig’s entire existence or at least the wiring of his brain is some kind of cosmic screw-up.
A lot of work, hopefully down the drain,
As the readers desert MSM in droves,
And get in the habit to exercise their brain.
Dennis isn’t such a screw up, but sexual love can sometimes be exhausting, In youth an hour was sufficient rest, but in one’s senior years that could entail several days, or sometimes a week at best. The pearls of love’s efforts not fully appreciated heightens exhaustion, and makes the Lover slow down his rhythm, and wonder. “What’s the use?”.
In consolation I observe that no one is suggesting nailing him to a cross, and to lighten the mood before continuing with the self love Epistle, this Dylan fragment came to mind:
“I told him, ‘You know, they refused Jesus, too’.”
He said, “You’re not him.”
Post Thanks-Taking Day Dinner I think Dylan’s115 th Dream is a nice humorous touch, which resonates on many a grim and humorous level, post 2016 Election. Well it does for me anyway, since one of my ancestors was on that boat in the opening line, and I want to wish Dennis “Good Luck” on his sojourn home, and all Americans the same on the massive work ahead: We’ll clearly need that and a lot more Love (properly defined) than Luck:
Dylan’s 115th Dream
I was riding on the Mayflower
When I thought I spied some land
I yelled for Captain Arab
I have yuh understand
Who came running to the deck
Said, “Boys, forget the whale
Look on over yonder
Cut the engines
Change the sail
Haul on the bowline”
We sang that melody
Like all tough sailors do
When they are far away at sea.
“I think I’ll call it America”
I said as we hit land
I took a deep breath
I fell down, I could not stand
Captain Arab he started
Writing up some deeds
He said, “Let’s set up a fort
And start buying the place with beads”
Just then this cop comes down the street
Crazy as a loon
He throw us all in jail
For carryin’ harpoons.
Ah me I busted out
Don’t even ask me how
I went to get some help
I walked by a Guernsey cow
Who directed me down
To the Bowery slums
Where people carried signs around
Saying, “Ban the bums”
I jumped right into line
Sayin’, “I hope that I’m not late”
When I realized I hadn’t eaten
For five days straight.
I went into a restaurant
Lookin’ for the cook
I told them I was the editor
Of a famous etiquette book
The waitress he was handsome
He wore a powder blue cape
I ordered some suzette, I said
“Could you please make that crepe”
Just then the whole kitchen exploded
From boilin’ fat
Food was flying everywhere
And I left without my hat.
Now, I didn’t mean to be nosy
But I went into a bank
To get some bail for Arab
And all the boys back in the tank
They asked me for some collateral
And I pulled down my pants
They threw me in the alley
When up comes this girl from France
Who invited me to her house
I went, but she had a friend
Who knocked me out
And robbed my boots
And I was on the street again.
Well, I rapped upon a house
With the U.S. flag upon display
I said, “Could you help me out
I got some friends down the way”
The man says, “Get out of here
I’ll tear you limb from limb”
I said, “You know they refused Jesus, too”
He said, “You’re not Him.
Get out of here before I break your bones
I ain’t your pop.”
I decided to have him arrested,
And I went looking for a cop
I ran right outside
And I hopped inside a cab
I went out the other door
This Englishman said, “Fab”
As he saw me leap a hot dog stand
And a chariot that stood
Parked across from a building
Advertising brotherhood.
I ran right through the front door
Like a hobo sailor does
But it was just a funeral parlor
And the man asked me who I was.
I repeated that my friends
Were all in jail, with a sigh
He gave me his card
He said, “Call me if they die.”
I shook his hand and said goodbye
Ran out to the street
When a bowling ball came down the road
And knocked me off my feet.
A pay phone was ringing
It just about blew my mind
When I picked it up and said hello
This foot came through the line.
Well, by this time I was fed up
At tryin’ to make a stab
At bringin’ back any help
For my friends and Captain Arab.
I decided to flip a coin
Like either heads or tails
Would let me know if I should go
Back to ship or back to jail
So I hocked my sailor suit
And I got a coin to flip
It came up tails
It rhymed with sails
So I made it back to the ship.
Well, I got back and took
The parkin’ ticket off the mast
I was ripping it to shreds
When this coastguard boat went past
They asked me my name
And I said, “Captain Kidd”
They believed me but
They wanted to know
What exactly that I did
I said for the Pope of Eruke
I was employed
They let me go right away
They were very paranoid.
Well, the last I heard of Arab
He was stuck on a whale
That was married to the deputy
Sheriff of the jail
But the funniest thing was
When I was leavin’ the bay
I saw three ships a-sailin’
They were all heading my way.
I asked the captain what his name was
And how come he didn’t drive a truck
He said his name was Columbus
I just said, “Good luck”.
one of these genial Sagittarius rich-table offerings. Saturn wants an anchor-place.
Deir ez Zor, a post truthiness recording edited…
Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring..click
Welcome to the American-Russian hot line voice mail. Please listen to the following menu
and select your option
Press 1 If you wish to object to John Cirby’s repeated abuse of Gayan Chichakyan
Press 2 If you wish to request US election authentication in close call states voting for Hillary Clinton
Press 3 If you wish to request lists of Russian citizens fighting with Al Nustra, Isis or any opposition groups in Syria
Press 4 If you want to report a live fire incident involving US personnel at this time anywhere in the mid East.
buzz…pause. click…To report a live fire incident please select from the following
#1 If this involves US airborne units
#2 If this involves land forces
#3 If this involves missiles or drones
#4 All of the previously mentioned and more
buzz,,,click..For a full bore ( like this phone loop) incident involving airborne units please select, from the following menu, the closest geographic location
#1 Syria
#2 Iraq
#3 Turkey
#4 others
click…buzz Please indicate the location in Syria
#1 N. Syria
#2 S. Syria
#3 W. Syria
#4 E Syria
#5 Central Syria
At this point the Russian caller throws all caution to the wind and presses, (yes, presses) “0”
ring, ring ring ring …..ring….etc. ring. click
” Allo, This is Ahmed Singh from Call-Centers-Are-Us,Int’l, How may I direct your call?
Excellent !:-)
Very creative Tera! Thanks for the good laugh.
Maybe Kirby could apply for and be issued a Russian passport to become a court jester there?
One can almost feel sympathy for him as he squirms:
Watch John Kirby LIE From the Podium About What’s Happening in Aleppo (Video)
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/watch-john-kirby-lie-podium-about-whats-happening-aleppo-video/ri17905
Further attempt to make “unconscious astrological memory” conscious, trying to make conscious, what the cells in us ‘know’ by the rhythms of being, which haven’t changed since billions of years.
“Red Week in Number 3”
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2016/11/11_18.html
A look at the inner workings of takfirism, how it’s funded and by whom – here, in Kashmir:
http://mouqawamahmusic.net/beware-isis-flags-in-occupied-kashmir-are-indian-israeli-us-psyop/#more-3634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1hAilewhdY
for spme reason couldn’t find it without subitles, this time.
@ Bro 93 – Dylan’s Captain Arab song made me laugh. I’m not leaving for Wisconsin until Dec. 14. Regarding sexual stamina, at my age it is mainly mental which has fewer blow-backs; and spiritual, if you get what I mean.
I was just talking to a crotchety man who lives here about the state of the world. He loves Tracey Chapman and her New Beginning. I do too.
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The whole world’s broke and it ain’t worth fixing
It’s time to start all over, make a new beginning
There’s too much fighting, too little understanding
It’s time to stop and
@ Bro 93 – Dylan’s Captain Arab song made me laugh. I’m not leaving for Wisconsin until Dec. 14. Regarding sexual stamina, at my age it is mainly mental which has fewer blow-backs; and spiritual, if you get what I mean.
I was just talking to a crotchety man who lives here about the state of the world. He loves Tracey Chapman and her New Beginning. I do too.
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The whole world’s broke and it ain’t worth fixing
It’s time to start all over, make a new beginning
There’s too much fighting, too little understanding
It’s time to stop and
Oops, hit the wrong button
It’s time to stop and start all over
Make a new beginning
We need to make new symbols
Make new signs
Make a new language
With these we’ll define the world
And start all over
Start all over
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Hey, Trace, how about a Love Army and Bower?
Good morning, my sisters and brothers in arms–of love. I wish all of us much love.
A pattern has developed with me every two or three days, today being typical. I wake up at 2 or 2:30 and can’t get back to sleep. My mind is getting some kind of message that I need to write about. I get up at 3 from my outdoor bed, come over here to the motorhome, start a fire in the woodstove, put a pan of water on the stove and sit down here at this communication machine. It’s now nearly 3:30.
I’d love to go back to sleep physically, intellectually, morally and spiritually but I can’t. I’d love to get into poetry and story-telling but I can’t. Hiding behind definitions and personalities doesn’t work either. The all news, war news and personal Saker news get way more views than cafe news but I gravitate here, even if nobody reads my stuff. Writing words is enough.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the Lover, and the Lover was Love,” to radically modify the Beloved Saint John’s opening salvo of his Good News Gospel. Orthodoxy reveals itself as Love through the Advent of Jesus She’sus.
Evil is being exposed but who can bear it? When it gets too bare, we want to look away or hide behind definitions and poems. They are fun and I love them too as beautiful distractions.
Great fissures are being opened up before our sleeping eyes. Orthodoxy and Liberalism. A constant stream of lies from the Empire and brave efforts at truth-telling. Exposes of pizza-gates, spirit cooking and satanic pedophile perversity reaching up to the highest Obama positions. The Clinton money machine and the starry-eyed, air-headed Demoncratic violent groupies, aided and abetted by the media mafia.
Our first lady a transvestite with a gay husband and their fake children? Who can bear it or bare it, and sleep in peace? Murders by the hundreds of those who could bear it and bared it; from JFK to Vince Foster, and on and on. Murder by the millions by the Empire of Evil, and billions if all the varieties of war are factored in. No wonder we need tons of drugs to dull the senses.
Or poetry and definitions. Or romance and dissertations. Or war as a spectator sport. Or the bewildering array of modern Roman bread and circuses distractions. Fear and terror rule the day; violence and money pave the way (see how I soften the blow with poetics).
I am afraid to tell the raw truth without the mitigation of metaphor, even if I could lest I end up like Joan Rivers and her uncounted sisters and brothers. “She told about Jesus, she told about the rain; she told about the forest where her brothers were slain.” Poetry makes the truth palatable; otherwise we would break down and apart with a broken heart.
Orthodox white males like Putin and Trump take up the sword to protect civilization while AZ crazies strive to destroy it in order to install their new world zoo. Transgender michelles and their trans restrooms soften up the orthos for the invasion to come. D Day transformed into Die Day.
Who would not want to sleep this one out? I sure would. But at what cost? A few well-placed rhymes and clever words or definitions that define only my ego? Truth hurts all the way down to the bones; you’d rather not see it, would you, Mr. Jones?
Yesterday, I was walking with the Love Army’s tenth division, the one that opposes pornography that makes people sex objects. We have all become sex objects and the Love Army dares to bare the issue but few can bear such raw truth. I’d rather “walk the streets of old Duluth, and then there was Ruth…” So I mix the truth with sentiment and hope I don’t fall into the trans trance of “watered down love.”
The stove is one of those small ice-shanty types so I have throw in small pieces of wood frequently. But it sure is warm and cozy. I love comfort and pleasure. Why not? But my safe little world may soon come crashing down, as Russians so painfully know. Painful as it is, the raw and naked truth really does match Jesus’s prediction: “the truth will set you free.” In that regard, a thumbs up for orthodoxy and a thumbs down for evil-doxy.
However, the truth is not quite that simple. The thumbs metaphor misses the elephant in the room: the triangulated middle upon which they both depend; the patriarchal male top-down pyramid triangle of power and the bottom-up loverarchal triangle of communal love-sex. In short the Tower and the Bower. Both are needed for true sex but they are not equal–one serves the other in a slightly unbalanced way. Absolute equality = dissolute zero-nullity.
These matters cannot be defined or poeticized. They can only be described from an infinite variegated perspective based on personal lived experience. Words are not the whole of Love but they are indispensable tools as John the Beloved stated with words.
I’m running out of words for now; so need to take a break and take time out for love; you know, just fall in love, or better, rise in love or better still, “be still and know that I am Love.” Not the I of me but the I of we–me and thee, joined in love which makes us three in trinity.
As Tracey Chapman sang: we need new symbols, signs and language, not to define the world but to love it. I’m afraid she has fallen into the trap recently of trying to “define” the world which cannot be done; and so has grown depressed and withdrawn. She offers the example of performance contradiction; all her beautiful poetry in song cannot compensate for real emotional intelligence. I’m talking about the sign-symbol of her, not her personally, which I don’t really know.
Ok, it’s almost five and I’m alive with suppressed truth which uses poetry as I just did but is not defined by it. As always in all ways: I love you too.
I just popped over to Propornot to check out the honour roll. Why is it a list of hyperlinks? It has taken me years to build my Favourites list of good info sites, now I can just work my way down The List. Traffic to these sites are only going to increase. I just think they haven’t thought all this through. They are using 1930’s tactics in a 21st century information age.
As Nanna used to say, more money than sense.
Good morning again. I want to share with this AI or IT machine and with its intercourse with your machine, and with the persons to whom it concerns, my lived experience as it unfolds, in the interest of truth by lived experience as the touchstone of said truth.
It’s about 5:30 now; first light of dawn appearing, roosters crowing, stars and thin clouds overall and quiet as a mouse. Let me tell what has just happened to me in this last hour.
I sat down with my guitar and chanted love, lover, lovers. Felt like the religious rituals of my life, in a new key, spirit and language. Then I opened The Love Government bible to the current week of the love year, which has the theme of Joy, as Fool, the wild card of tarot.
As in church services, the young children go off for Sunday school and I joined them in saying out loud a poem about Joy; in this case a 21 line children’s poem:
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Build a love house, it’s pure joy
Stone by stone, stone by stone
Build a love house of your own
Brick by brick, brick by brick
Build a love house, make them stick
Wall by wall, wall by wall
Build a love house, make it tall
Inch by inch, inch by inch
Build a love house, it’s a cinch
Yard by yard, yard by yard
Build a love house, it’s not hard
Bar by bar, bar by bar
Build a love house, to a star
Nail by nail, nail by nail
Build a love house, you can’t fail
Hour by hour, hour by hour
Build a love house, with your power
Thought by thought, thought by thought
Build a love house, you’ll be taught
Joy by Joy, Joy by Joy
Build a love house, it’s pure Joy
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We danced and sang around an imaginary house, with props such as nails and stones. We felt joy.
Meanwhile upstairs, the adults sat down for the first reading (in this case, myself in my personal Love Bower). As in churches of my youth, there were icons all around. The picture that went with the theme of Joy was the Sex Tarot card of Joy, the 0 of the deck also called the Fool. Bear in mind that we are adults of the Love Culture, well conversant with Love and Sex, and cognizant of a war raging all around our door.
The second reading will be from the standard tarot deck but that does not concern us here. The first reading and viewing is a new version of tarot, called Sex Tarot.
It shows the Lover as Joy, standing naked with upraised arms on the edge of a deep canyon, her back to the edge. Over her head is the number zero and also the sun. There are mountains in the distance and a river running far below. Joy as Fool is orgasming with water gushing forth from between her legs, like the river below. In the major arcana, this zero card bookends with the XXIst card which shows a similar naked lover splayed backwards over the earth ball.
The adult reading is as follows:
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Zero stands for everything and nothing. Only a joy-fool can understand this. Joy is a fool for love who goes all the way. The joy-fool stands backwards on the edge of a canyon with a river running far below and mountains in the distance.
The Lover Joy ejaculates her sex waters as she falls backwards into the abyss of nothing and everything. This is the climax of life and death.
The sun shines over her head as if to catch her in his beams. Joy gives herself to him in an orgasm of ecstasy. The sun is her lover, another zero of everything and nothing.
The love culture celebrated the wheel of everything and nothing. Sex and death were surrenders to the lover ancestors, descendants and participants present in the sacred sex rites.
As with them, so with us. This is our heritage and destiny: to be lovers and joy-fools ourselves. This is the naked truth of who we are. With our family of lovers we are the sacred wheel of all and null, joy-fools in love.
In tarot decks the fool is the wild card who can take the place of any other card. The Fool goes where angels fear to tread. In the standard deck, a little white dog barks at the fool to warn her away from the edge.
Dog is God spelled backwards. The Fool of Joy goes where God cannot. For example, the Fool can be evil if she wants. That’s why God follows Joy, not the other way around.
God is not very sexual. He doesn’t have a penis and cannot ejaculate amritu (or amrita) like Joy. Although the texts speak of “nectar of the gods,” they don’t dare say that it is a womam’s love-sex waters. The sad fact is that God killed off such rites and joy along with them. Talk about a kill-joy.
In the old days, a newly married couple were greeted with “may the gods give you joy.” This is a corruption of the lover ancestors giving the joy of sex to the lovers. Joy is a code word for amritu (love rite), the joy-juice water of pleasure in love-making. Eden means “pleasure where waters flow.”
In plain truth, we can say “may the Lover give us joy.” This is portrayed by the Joy-Fool card.
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The narrator, minister or facilitator would state the straight adult truth in clear and concise prose, within the context of the Love Culture. For children it would be conveyed in nursery rhymes and for adults it might be religious rites or mystery plays.
The Catholic and Orthodox traditions are filled with feasts, moveable cafes like Easter moons and fixed festivals like Christmas, with numerous minor feast days throughout the year, saints’ days and such. The year was filled with fasts and feasts and rites and rituals to make life interesting at least. Sex Tarot can dance easily with Catholics and Orthodox.
Protestantism and Modernism turned culture into a boring wasteland that war and terror give some relief to. It takes an adult consciousness to keep up with the times and develop ideas and their stepped down applications in art and science.
Without a mature education in truth, we are lost in an evil fog and sold down the river for a very cheap price. We need raw and naked truth but we also need it to be gift-wrapped in a meta-story and narrative that makes sense to our blood and bones.
I am in the process of re-wiring the patrix half-truth stories of evilist empires. It’s a challenge to say the least, and can only be done in a community of competent adults. I’m betting on this vineyard because I know of nothing better. Of course, I’m a Fool and a Joy-Fool too. What else can I do?
Maybe I can cut it and maybe I can’t. The only way to know is to go on in, sink or swim, lose or win. The same can be said for this vineyard. We are joy fools, one and all; or else we become plain fools and puppets in the chains of empire.
Ite missa est. The Mass is ended. Life has just begun. Love, love and more love; with joy below and above. It’s now 7 going on 11, half way to an earthly heaven.
Love Refined But Undefined
I leave to our dear dauntless Love Definer Pioneers,
The first forays into Definition, the arrows and the spears.
Oh, I’m brave enough to try, but I’m no reckless, silly dope,
So on Self-Love I’ll I think I’ll stick with Alexander Pope.
Second Epistle, Second Verse (of 3) ESSAY on MAN:
II. Two principles in human nature reign;
Self-love to urge, and reason, to restrain;
Nor this a good, nor that a bad we call,
Each works its end, to move or govern all
And to their proper operation still,
Ascribe all good; to their improper, ill.
Self-love, the spring of motion, acts the soul;
Reason’s comparing balance rules the whole.
Man, but for that, no action could attend,
And but for this, were active to no end:
Fixed like a plant on his peculiar spot,
To draw nutrition, propagate, and rot;
Or, meteor-like, flame lawless through the void,
Destroying others, by himself destroyed.
Most strength the moving principle requires;
Active its task, it prompts, impels, inspires.
Sedate and quiet the comparing lies,
Formed but to check, deliberate, and advise.
Self-love still stronger, as its objects nigh;
Reason’s at distance, and in prospect lie:
That sees immediate good by present sense;
Reason, the future and the consequence.
Thicker than arguments, temptations throng.
At best more watchful this, but that more strong.
The action of the stronger to suspend,
Reason still use, to reason still attend.
Attention, habit and experience gains;
Each strengthens reason, and self-love restrains.
Let subtle schoolmen teach these friends to fight,
More studious to divide than to unite;
And grace and virtue, sense and reason split,
With all the rash dexterity of wit.
Wits, just like fools, at war about a name,
Have full as oft no meaning, or the same.
Self-love and reason to one end aspire,
Pain their aversion, pleasure their desire;
But greedy that, its object would devour,
This taste the honey, and not wound the flower:
Pleasure, or wrong or rightly understood,
Our greatest evil, or our greatest good.
Reading Pope reminds me of when I first started reading Shakespeare: unfamiliar and strange. If I read enough of Pope I might have less brain strain. With that in mind, allow me to comment.
Pope’s self-love and reason seems to be a version of the Scholastic struggle of love and knowledge, a sort of battle royal between the Franciscans and Dominicans, Duns Scotus and Thomas Acquinas. The Jesuits had not yet swept all away with the discipline of reason cloaked with faith on fire.
I always intuitively favored love; being a Franciscan no doubt influenced me. Cardinal Newman said it was as easy to moor a battleship with a thread as it was to restrain human passion with reason. I agree. Love, good or ill, positive or negative is the greatest power. Reason is not in the same league as far as the real world goes.
Kind of like Intuition and Definition. Anyway, thanks for introducing me to Pope; quite different than the Popes I have known. I really should read the whole of his Essay on Man but I’m deterred by its length; but then Shakespeare is long too. Tell me again: what is that link to his essay in toto?
I’ll mull over this and other matters as I get out in nature now to water, haul, build and generally interact more directly with her than with this virtual machine. By her, I mean love, the right brain left-handed anima within who dances and entrances my left brain right-handed animus without.
How easy it is for me to say: love, love and more love; and how strained to say: reason, reason and more reason; or more brain trained strained to say: definition, definition and more definition. Per Occam’s razor (saints preserve his soul) I simplify the whole matter with the simple, yet all encompassing word: LOve. I keep on making that keystroke error; what is she trying to convey? Lo and behold? La Ove or L Ova? Sometimes this SS Synchronicity Serendipity tango defies definition, as well it should. I can’t even imagine living in a world of definitions but millions do.
I am going, going, gone–at least for a few hours.
What is interesting in Pope’s poetry – in Essay on man – is, that he hardy gives an objective answer on what is good and what is right, leaving that answer to us, as a question flying in the air, in the old Shakespeare tradition, this is drama. The drama and in some stages the comic or tragic-comic of the man in his singularity, facing his ego. There is no outside help, everything has to be done, decided, thought, through the self looking in the mirror of his own existence.
The perversion of Western culture in a very graphic way: It is so ugly. Let’s see if Krampus gets a big PR push this year in the USA.
https://www.rt.com/in-motion/368588-argentina-dead-walk-wedding/
@Anon
The goods on Henry K
“Kissinger himself was described by Communist defectors as a longtime KGB agent whose code name was “BOR”, recruited by the Soviets while serving in the U.S. Occupation Government in Germany after World War II. His handler in the U.S., a Dr. Helmut Sonnenfeldt, also emerged as an influential government official, participating in the highest levels of government intelligence operations as a “consultant” to the Department of State. There was considerable speculation that he also functioned as a “consultant” to various other governments, but no serious effort was made to find out. Certainly Kissinger felt at home with the KGB-directed ADL organization.”
http://whale.to/b/mullins22.html
@ Phil
Thank you for post and link. That would explain a lot and a ready explanation for some “mysteries”; after all the KGB had infiltrated many high places in the capitalist camp (Kim Philby, Guy Burgess, Donald McLean, Anthony Blunt, and others). but that one would be the ultimate spy coup. Still, if true, it does not erase the stain of mass murderer, just compounds the vileness and depravity of that lowlife wretch.
Certainly, “if” Kissinger was a KGB operative he failed miserably in that job.Unlike the other’s in those positions “Philby,Burgess,etc”,who really helped the USSR. All that Kissinger did was work to destroy it. Which to me,would prove that he “wasn’t” working for the KGB. Like most spy agencies,they expected their agendas to actually be on their side.
Well, I do not know about Mr. Kissinger, but that the spies world is so intricated as to some get crazy on it, it´s true.
Probably this is known by you three who seem to know a lot about spies, but the other day, a friend senior strategist put me on the track of Mr. Angleton, who, seemed to be a very good agent, although his career finished the wrong way because his “hunches” were took as paranoias when, really, in the end, it seems that he had a good score…
As an amateur, I found his biography very interesting and with multiple links who some young commenters so ignorant of the man as me could find enjoyable to know.
I leave the link to the wikipedia page on him with a lot of hyperlinks, you will see that the issue is almost neverending.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jesus_Angleton
For the photographs, phisically, also seems to have passed him a good facture that kind of life.
@ Uncle Bob
Even if he did channelled some intel crumbs to the SU, he was foremost a Zionist of the highest order and a traitor to the US. I’m not absolutely certain about the Zionist infiltration of US government before his accession to the levers of power, but there was a visible surge during and after his reign, especially in the State Department, Treasury and Justice.
First thing, sorry about my english. The few I do know I’ve learned watching brainwash TV series and movies.
I came here to talk about Brazil’s situation. There’s a change!
Yesterday Congress approved a new law to limit the power of courts. This is a huge blow to the coup power.
Before the approval, the CIA puppy Sergio Mouro told was thinking about take a year off to study in the USA.
And those prosecutors involved in Lava Jato investigation, also from CIA, announced his intentions to quit working if the law pass.
The GLOBO TV station is freaking out just like MSM about the election is the US.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/11/30/brazil-anti-corruption-amnesty-bill-will-never-stop-petrobras-investigation/
Don’t let Forbes fool you. The problem for then is that the law limits the power of Judicial system and predict punishment to several actions from this power.
The target was always Petrobras and the OIL.
And they are doing Brazilian people PAY for the coup costs making Petrobras pay US $2bi cash to USA….i really don’t know why(lol) since this company has ONLY 1 refinery in Texas and that’s all. No bussing there at all.
Looks like Brazil is starting to move, slowly as always!
They are planning another impeachment in 2017. Temer, the former vice and new president already knows because he is being constantly blackmail…like every week!
It must be next year because there will be NO election in the last year of government and the Congress will choose the new one…. probably Supreme Court president but Globo checked the name of former President FHC, the REAL corrupted one! The response was a no go.
This new law is the response from the corrupted PMDB(Temer) for the blackmailing of the CIA party, the PSDB.
This is the good part. The bad is I can’t see a way to stop Jose Serra, the main CIA asset in Brazil.
His corruption was already exposed several times and he is still there.
He is in a special position at the very hart of the Brazilian nationalist thinking(ye,s we do exist) at ITAMARATY. The foreign affairs of Brazil.
This is very scary situation since Brazil as a country could not resist and the fragmentation could be possible. Improbable, because of the language, but possible.
The Chinese are starting to check the will of our military increasing training.
Thank god
One thing nobody knows in EAST(Russia, China, etc) is that the military coup in 64 was not a successful one since the perpetrators didn’t get the presidency. The military hold it! Despite anything you hear about, this is the true.
And Brazil become a very close country with NO sympathy to any side.
Of course the ideological was only one but a non brazillian , anyone, was just an ALIEN here.
We just have a cancer in our society and don’t know how to deal with.
The Chinese initial move towards the military could be IT. We need this badly and can’t be Russia….not right now.
Latin America is becoming a hot spot. Russians going to Uruguay, China in Argentina with USA.
Colômbia trying to send Yankees home (Itamaraty work).
USA trying to come to Brazil to use our rocket Base. ..since someone blow up our rocket with all our scientist in the blow.
Someone also blow up our base at Antarctica….
VenezuelaIs holding just like Bolivia and Equador.
Not that bad but Jose Serra needs to be stopped!
My deep condolences for the family and friends of the Brazilian football team !
It’s nice to have this cafe for little chats throughout the day. Even when I’m not here reading or writing, I can converse by telepathy. I had a good day so far, watering and progressing on outdoor projects.
But the best just happened and is still going on as I type. I was watching the setting sun about ten degrees off the horizon hills from the window of my motorhome. I could look directly at the sun. It began changing colors, the most beautiful purples, blues, greens and yellows–swirling, pulsating, spinning like liquid fire and radiating out in concentric circles. When I closed my eyes and held my hands over them, a pure yellow fuzzy ball appeared.
The sun slowly sunk below the horizon, leaving a golden and purple halo behind. And now as I type, there is a pinkish, orange glow on the outline of the hills and on the orange and gray clouds, gradually changing in intensity and tone.
I don’t do drugs so I don’t have that to compare. Give me nature anytime. Get lost, Uncle Timothy. You and a drug-dropped world can’t compete. Nature is so magnificent and joyful. I can understand why it was worshiped. She’s so personal and loving, almost like a person.
And to think that’s merely her as a sign and symbol. What must she be in reality? I think she reveals herself best as Love, particularly as a Womam Lover and Mother. I’m a man and am proud to serve her. I fulfill myself by loving her. She put on quite a show this evening and still is. Wait until the stars come out and it will be yet another display of love in action.
On this site the background and reason for being is to stop war. War is ugly and the opposite of love. My passion is to find out the causes of war and to cure them. I do this for her, along with thousands of men from the spirit world who died attempting to defend her. We will not give up until Eve is back in her love forest bower.
The wind is kicking up outside, stirring the air with winds of change. We may fall and die to this day but we are always eternal suns no matter what changes go on. Nature holds up a mirror to who we are. Every day I am reminded of that message by the rising sun.
Like I said at the outset, it’s nice to have this all day and night cafe to visit whenever. The Love Bower is less than a stone’s throw away. That’s where the Love Army rests between battles. Of course, this is a myth like the sun stories of old which contains more truth in its little finger than our whole civilization has in its inflated lies of Empire insanity.
There’s still a golden glow in the west. Every day the sun now rises higher. All this and more at love’s behest. All the money in the world cannot buy her.