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“We’re going to hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line.
Have you any dirty washing, mother dear?
We’re gonna hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line.
‘Cause the washing day is here.”
This sitzkrieg is starting to stretch the nerves. Any day the crazies could pull some stunt which could change all our lives. Not that the Trump presidency is going to a clam pool of tranquillity; we’re caught between a rock and a hard place. Oh well, eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
If the crazies pull some stunt, it will be touch and go as to WWIII or civil war in the US. The ‘deplorables’ that back trump mostly exercise their second amendment and own a lot of guns and ammo and also form militias.
It seems Trump has also given high places to ex military that are generally respected by the cannon fodder and is seems who’s loyalty will be to the constitution and the president of the US.
I hope so Peter, this is the best case scenario (so unfortunately less likely to happen). If Trump is the popular President we hope he is, he is going to have to pull off a Castro in avoiding assassinations. Next best he represents the old guard Anglos, the pre-War Isolationists, the America-firsters. It looks like the Globalists are running America into the ground to bring on their NWO. Trump on his own will be another Obama, but with the real America behind him, wow. It would be nice to see her again.
Your thoughts, in a few words :
Provoking the World
The wedding song turns into tear,
The children are grown up in fear,
The world is harsh and even cruel
And is provoking us to lethal duel.
The deep sorrows and the crying,
The deep shadows and the lying,
Everything will pass, as they say
And are provoking us give our pay.
The darkness, is waiting at the door,
The evil is well alive, waiting for more.
Meanwhile, the light of hope is in the air,
All these, are provoking us till the despair.
Time is running out for poor and rich,
Even if the rich employs a bitter witch.
The poor and rich, most love the gold
And all this, provokes the entire world !
In beholder’s eyes,
The scales gently raining down.
Onto the victims.
This last few years has taught me a lesson I could not learn in a book. Watching America’s slow-motion world war has shown me how events are seen differently in hindsight. Sept 1 1939 is seen by Anglos as the start of WW2, to the Russians it was June 22 1941. To the Chinese it was 1937, to the Maasai it never happened. If we end up launching into a fully-blown world war in 2017, which point over the last few months/years will be seen as the starting point? Will it be Oct 2015 when the Russians went into Syria? The 2017 US build-up on the Russian border? The activation of the THAAD system in Romania last year? It will depend on what eventually triggers the war.
This is the feeling I lived with last year, the feeling of living through the start of an undeclared world war. Is this why the sitzkrieg period happened in 1939-40, because the people at the time didn’t know they were in a world war yet? Did it only become a world war in hindsight? And if so, who chooses? When you look at the players in the Syrian battlespace, this could easily be spun as a battle in a world war by future historians. It will depend on if there is a wider conflagration in the near future, or if the defeat of Clinton has averted it.
Or alternatively, the world war has been going on for centuries, with brief periods of total destruction punctured by years of low-intensity conflict.
Most probably the last option.
Earthrise
It is very hard to give a satisfying answer to this question. We can rely on the past history of course, some things are not changing at all, like geography. Looking at it with military glasses, this leads to some conclusions, but well, we enter in the territory of war scenarios, posing as armchair generals. The military build-up will probably continue because, as they say, if you want peace, prepare for the war. If there is a certain plan of action, we don’t know but we will find out if that plan will be applied. Remains to be seen what will do Trump in the coming months, what will be his priorities.
Netanyahu Caught on Tape Offering Favors in Exchange for Better Coverage
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201701091049382932-netanyahu-offers-favors-publisher/
“The prime minister was questioned twice over the past week in two ongoing corruption investigations, Case 1000 and Case 2000. Case 2000 centers on the possible quid pro quo arrangement with the newspaper, which investigators found recorded on Netanyahu’s former chief of staff’s phone.
Israel’s Channel 2 reported January 8 that police had found a recording of Netanyahu offering to limit the circulation of a newspaper — specifically, to shut down its weekend edition — if Arnon Mozes, publisher of rival newspaper Yediot Aharonot, could organize more sympathetic coverage for him.
Yediot Aharonot is seen as critical of the prime minister; its rival, the free Israel Hayom, is generally pro-Netanyahu, the Jerusalem post points out. Cutting its circulation would drive advertising toward Mozes’s publication.
Israel Hayom is owned by US billionaire Sheldon Adelson, a Netanyahu pal.”
Perhaps “was pal” now. Both nonutsyahoo and the thing he calls his “wife” are under investigation. If he crossed adelson, who is Jewish mafia, then there is definitely a split among the zionazis.
This can’t hurt…
Vot Tak, he must be falling out of favour, as they are all corrupt and only get charged if they need to get out of the way. Maybe the Israeli deep state is waking up to how dangerous this rightward shift is to their long-term survival. Maybe they are setting up Netanyahu to take the fall for the visible Occupation, and they want to reset with some fake centre candidate. Maybe they see as I do the danger of having a pro-Occupation US ambassador and a pro-Israel President. Their wardrobe is malfunctioning, their nakedness has almost been exposed.
These lovelies must be down under or in Buenos Aires.
I’m wondering if this story was pulled from the news:
I don’t see it up on Internet Explorer any longer.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-tanks-roll-into-germany-to-protect-against-potential-russian-invasion/ar-BBy31SL?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
I don’t find it, or any “The ZioNAZIS are coming!” alarms from Vineyard people in Europe who have been awake for many hours now.
I posted it in the Bogie and Bacall Cafe, since that tea bag that was a week old turned me off. Just joking…… but thanks for bussing the tables……and thanks to the Southern Sun for beautifying the joint.
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Change is in the air. A mixture of positive and negative possibilities colliding. Like never before, at least in my experience.
Meanwhile, the picture above has changed. Very sensual girls enjoying the sun. But back to the real deal. Specifically, it is the third brigade of the 4th US infantry division from the US state of Colarado, which has been on its march to Eastern Europe for weeks. Today, and in the coming days, three ships arrive in the port of Bremerhaven, from where most of the soldiers and their equipment are loaded onto trains and the rest are transported on roads. The Bundeswehr is responsible as the “host nation” (host country) for the logistics support of the transport. The brigade numbers 4200 soldiers and some 4400 various military machinery which include 80 Abram tanks. I wonder what will do Trump after his inauguration. Will he order them back or will use them as a bargain for talks with Putin ? (some sort of trump card ?) Anyway, 4 or 5000 US troops make no difference in the military field against Russia, so what for all this circus ? For consumption by beating the drums in old style. For a real war against Russia they need some 3 millions at least. Another reason is (and maybe the real one) to occupy militarily the entire EU and NATO states for long time.The military will not go just alone in there, a whole branch of “utility stuff” will be loaded also, together with business. They will keep an close eye on each state, assuring the influence not just on policy but in business. This is the road how to make America great again. The “host nations” will have to pay for the station of their “defenders” and of course buy the american military stuff. “If not war, let’s have business”. And Trump is a business man. I didn’t heard if he has military strategy knowledge, but that doesn’t matter, he has the generals around him. Will he let Europe and in particular eastern Europe to Russia’s influence ? I don’t think so.
What we were told for two days or more (on the France based TV stations euronews and arte, whose paranazi news I am watching once every day to have an idea what they want to implant into us) is that these american panzers+personnell, which arrived per ship in Bremerhaven, will be forwarded via railroad to Poland to save that country from the Russkies. Thus, this is nothing but the usual thing: a fake danger, a fake alarm, and fake saviours to, allegedly, undo the first, but really continue with the endless war against those who, allegedly, get protected all the time. So, these ami forces are not „to protect“ but „to protect Poland from the Russkies“, which is a little different from the usual, never ending nonsense.
bp
Money flows into Russia?
http://theduran.com/economy-strengthens-money-floods-russia/
OK, pool players. “Rack ’em up!”
I feel like Fast Eddy going up against Minnesota Fats (Gleason) Bert (George C Scott) and the rest of the Midwest Mob:
https://youtu.be/bpc3TKhS6MU
“I got a hunch, Fat Man.” Gotta wing it, “fast and loose”:
What I am referring to is Collateral Damage (Part 2) which I just hurriedly scanned. About 30 pages of text, and do I have some zingers for you. Ever since falling in love with Israel Shamir’s style:
“These doubtful crimes have an additional common quality: their striking visual aspect. Nemtsov’s death wasn’t on the Twin Towers scale, but the flamboyant playboy and an opposition politician was dispatched in style. Fluffy snow falling upon the bridges over Moscow River with brightly-lit polychrome domes of St Basil’s Cathedral and the red crenelated walls of Kremlin provided a perfect background. Add six bullets, a white American car the assassins used to flee the scene, and a Ukrainian beauty model Anna, 23, stooping over the prostrated body of her dead lover, and you’ll get a haunting picture Raymond Chandler could script and Howard Hawks direct. Or perhaps James Cameron of the Titanic would be a better choice.
A tinge of envy may be felt in my description.”………………. from this article several years ago:
http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Nemtsov.htm
And then, when it came to Syria, while we and Saker were cautious, Shamir was Fast Eddy:
http://theeye-witness.blogspot.com/2015/09/israel-shamir-from-moscow-die-is-cast.html
racking ’em and then calling one of the balls in a specific corner (Russia’s intervention into Syria Sept 3, 2015 weeks and weeks before others).
So, here goes, fast and loose, excerpts from Part 2 Collateral Damage:
NAZI and Japanese gold employed privately, 240 billion in illegal treasury bonds with which to buy key Russian industries, 911 and the sub-prime “crisis” and 2008 financial meltdown, all parts of one big pattern:
Top of Page 2
“Two independent ‘insiders’ to the fund have provided with testimony and documentation
contending that George H.W. Bush and Alan Greenspan funded a covert operation in
1991 in the range of $240 billion dollars. One of those insiders was the wife of a minor
covert fund manager (CIA operative Russell Hermann, of the Durham Trust) and the
other was the long-term program manager of the covert fund (General Earle Cocke).3,4
Subsequent investigation into the funding and the history of that period suggests they
used the gold to fund a covert economic war that caused the collapse of the Soviet
Union.5
However implausible the claim may sound, “…it helps to realize that the entire
cost of World War II, in current dollars and including service-connected veterans’
benefits, is about $460 billion…. The cost of the Vietnam War, including benefits, was
$172 billion; Korea was $70 billion; World War I was $63 billion. The Civil War was $7
billion.” 6
For George H.W. Bush and his colleagues, the covert war was probably a
bargain that was too hard to turn down regardless of the legality!
The corroborating evidence for these claims is extensive, and moreover suggests that
securities from the $240 Billion covert war were ‘settled’ in the aftermath of
September11th, 2001 tragedy. This meant that $240 billion jumped from the off-balance
sheet accounts to the balance sheets of their respective holding banks, and had a major
impact on the money supply. Since that event, a chain reaction has contributed to an
economic crisis that has stripped corporations and investment funds (read as retirement
and saving plans) of trillions of dollars, and brought global economic growth to a
standstill. Starting with a significant failure in the subprime equity market, a major
contraction of the finance industry created a crisis with the following characteristics: ……..”
The connection of our housing market collapse to Russia, middle of Page 5:
Deeper Root Causes of the Subprime Crisis
‘Follow the money’ is a time tested adage which is all too often ignored, but in this case
proves illustrative. The root causes of the ‘subprime financial crisis of 2008’ are found in
the covert and possibly illegal expansion of the US dollar money supply and a
coordinated effort by a few individuals to channel this excessive monetary supply into the
high risk subprime market. The same group of individuals responsible for both aspects of
that plan, were also responsible for a broad array of efforts which blocked actions that
would have minimized the risk, or exposed the magnitude of risk earlier. Even more
important, the group at the center of this crisis is the very same set of individuals that
deliberately crashed the Soviet economy in 1991, and discretely bought up the
infrastructure for ‘pennies on the dollar.”
The plot thickens, Middle of Page 7:
More simply, the Federal Reserve – as intended under it charter –lost control of its ability
to manage the money supply due to the significant covert injection of gold and gold
backed bonds into the money supply for covert intelligence operations.29 The expansion
of the money supply is not so much attributable to the growth of unregulated financial
products such as derivatives, swaps, and structured investments etc. – although they
provide a good ‘cover story’ as to why classical monetary controls have failed.30 The
Fed’s inability to control interest rate movements can be attributed to the uncontrollable
inflow of gold, gold bonds and gold backed securities. (Was anyone realistically
expecting Presidents and bankers to ‘sit’ on between 73,000 and 280,000 tonnes of illegal
Black Eagle/Yamashita/Marcos gold, without trying to use it?)
The critical observation is this:
The Federal Reserve “Board” and the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC)
cannot control the money supply if the Project Hammer/Golden Lily/Yamashita
Treasure/Black Eagle Fund remains covert, is administered on a need-to-know basis,
and is releasing gold to the market without public acknowledgment. Under those
conditions, there are two authorities creating money, one of which has an inability to
provide full disclosure. The Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Secretary of Treasury,
President of the US, President of the New York Federal Reserve and Chairman of the
Federal Open Market Committee would be totally responsible for the Project
Hammer/Golden Lily/Yamashita Treasure/Black Eagle Fund. The entire Board of the
Federal Reserve and FOMC owns the control of the Federal Reserves monetary
policy decisions-not just the Chairmen. In this case, the Federal Reserve committee
members could not be advised of the changes of which the Chairmen would be aware
of, for reasons of National Security. Equally important, the administrator of the
covert fund (formerly the CEO of Citibank31) is instructing some 30+ commercial
accounts to deploy the ‘off balance sheet’ assets, which represents a monetary policy
in itself. ”
Overview bottom of Page 8:
“Specifically, the start of the financial crisis of 2008 can be traced to the events of
September 11, 2001, when an estimated $240 billion dollars was covertly added to the
M2/M3 money supply with the settlement of off-balance sheet, illegal bonds created in
1991 by George H.W. Bush and Alan Greenspan, with the assistance of a number of
individuals who subsequently controlled U.S. economic policy for the following 15 years.
(See “Key Players” page 15 for names of these individuals.) In the four months after
9/11, the total money supply increased by $650Billion, the single greatest burst of
monetary increase in modern times.”
In an attempt to buy the USA the way they “bought Russia”….. Middle of Page 9:
After pumping a quarter of a trillion dollars of excess liquidity into the economy, the
financial managers of this operation had to create comparable monetary ‘demand’ or risk
collapsing interest rates. The incremental subprime market jumped $294 Billion in the
aftermath of September 11 (2001-2004)42. There had been a subprime market for
decades, but in the aftermath of 9/11, that market was $294Billion larger than explained
by normal growth. The group that brought the money to the market undertook a series of
actions that that directed this funding into high risk subprime mortgages, and made it
legal for them to directly invest in it. The incremental ‘liar’s loan’ volume jumped
$230Billion in the aftermath of September 11 (2001-2006).”
THE BIG DAY (makes Larry Silverstein look like a “small fish” billionaire insurance scammer, top of Page 14:
On September 11, 2001, the New York Federal Reserve Bank, and the Bank of New
York, allowed the release of 10 year gold backed securities held by Cantor-Fitzgerald,
and they were cleared by the Bank of New York.91 The release of these notes created the
liquidity which resulted in the rapid expansion of the subprime market. The gold
providing the backing for those bonds was distributed amongst the bullion banks which
were the beneficiaries of the initial dispersal of the Yamashita/Marcos/Black Eagle gold,
and it would be appropriate to speculate that the proceeds from settling the 9/11 notes
were added to their respective capital reserves through a daisy chain of paper running
through Goldman Sachs. (See Figure 4) The institutional beneficiary recipients of those
proceeds would have been:
• Bank of New York • Jardine Matheson
• Household Bank • HSBC
• Chase Manhattan • Credit Suisse First Boston
• Citibank • Deutschebank
• UBS
Their connection to the subprime market is show in Figure 3. ”
Over the next fifteen years, these same individuals would graduate from being Bush’s
and Clinton’s personal foreign policy enablers to being the most powerful financial
advisors and regulators in the U.S., and the world.
There needs to be a clear understanding that there is a major undercurrent of illegal
financing that runs though the American economy that is conducted by country’s top
bankers. These bankers control deposits of over 100,000 tonnes of gold no one can admit
exists because it makes them vulnerable to innumerable criminal and civil charges. They
have committed these crimes at the behest of the country’s top officials, with the
probable promise of immunity. While the statute of limitations on the gold theft is 40
years, the gold was continually stolen starting in 1945, and most recently in 1986 –
making them vulnerable through 2026. Those involved in its theft, including bankers, are
subject to charges of tax evasion, money laundering, fraud, theft, racketeering etc., and
then the list of violent crimes gets appended: crimes like murder and treason- for which
there is no statute of limitations. It creates an interesting dilemma: admitting to the crimes
will get them killed by either the public, or by those fearing exposure. Exposure of even a
single thread of illicit financing begins to expose the whole fabric! That is why buildings
6 & 7 of the World Trade Center were brought down.126 The two private sector
institutions most closely aligned with this control of the underground economy based on
this illegal gold are Goldman Sachs and the Carlyle Group. These were the two major
privateer bankers associated with what Anne Williamson described to Congress as the
“Rape of Russia.”
And we gotta know where Slick Willie and Hitlery fit in, and man, do THEY FIT IN:
Top of Page 21:
1. Goldman helped Clinton by arranging financing for the Arkansas Finance
Development Authority. In a rather odd scheme, Goldman Sachs provided
Clinton with $400 million of financing for his Arkansas Development Finance
Authority, which then handed out $90 million in loans.131 For a number of years,
AFDA bond financing was managed through two of Clinton’s close personal
associates. When an investigation into AFDA’s finances was threatened, Clinton
sough to have the AFDA sell its bonds through more traditional channels, such as
Goldman Sachs.132
2. Second, by involving the AFDA in a rather fraudulent stock deal. Between 1987
and 1992, Goldman Sachs proposed and arranged a suspicious $5 million gift for
the Arkansas Finance Development Authority (AFDA), in a transaction which
later was exposed as either a major money-laundering operation or Enron type
arrangement for AIG, which allowed AIG to set up one of its many re-insurance
fronts. These re-insurance shells allowed U.S. corporate owners to avoid taxes
and hide revenue off-shore.133 It is suggested that the $5 million brought the
‘street credibility’ of Clinton and the AFDA to the deal and attracted other major
investors to a deal which was valued well over $60 million. AIG, in its turn,
would end up holding over $1 Billion in AFDA bonds. 134
3. Third, by providing significant campaign contributions to his run at the
Presidency.”
What is critical to understanding these seemingly side-line bits of news is that the ADFA
was used to launder both CIA drug money and Black Eagle fund assets, and that
Goldman Sachs (and AIG) was a facilitator in both cases
• The AFDA was the creation of Governor Clinton, with the legal guidance of Webster
Hubbell. (Hubbell and his father got one of the first loans for $2.85 Million, which
apparently was never repaid.136) The AFDA had unilateral authority to create and sell
bonds backed by the taxpayers of Arkansas, and there was absolutely no regulatory
authority by any state or federal agency to watch its books. Not even the State auditor
was allowed to look at their books. Clinton would appoint the Board Directors at his
leisure. The AFDA had the absolute ability to sell bonds, make loans on the basis of
any criteria chosen, and allow the recipients of those loans to default. It is contended
that many of the recipients of those loans made significant contributions to the
Clinton campaigns. It is also contended that a tens of millions of dollars of the bonds
were purchased with drug money from the CIA-Mena drug operation that supported
the Nicaraguan Contras, in violation of law.137 Accordingly, it has long been
speculated that Clinton, AIG, the CIA and Goldman Sachs were using the ADFA to
launder CIA drug money, and the pay-off for the Clintons was an ability to finance
their political campaigns.
• The bank that provided the funding for the deal proposed by Goldman Sachs was the
Chicago Branch of the Sanwa Bank. The Sanwa Bank is the repository of the Showa
Trust, created with Yamashita gold in the aftermath of World War II by Robert B.
Anderson. It was Secretary of the Navy Robert B. Anderson, Secretary of War
Henry L. Stimson, and Secretary of War John J. McCloy who created the Black
Eagle Trust.138
. Robert Anderson would go on to be a post-War U.S. intelligence
asset, operate the Commercial Exchange Bank in the British West Indies, be ……………..”
Here’s the zinger, With Russia connections up the ying yang, as the Chinese would say, bottom of Page 22:
Clinton’s Presidential campaign was funded in a major way by the ADFA,
Jackson Stevens (BCCI front man) and Goldman Sachs.145 In an eerie parallel, just
like Russian oligarch Alexndre Konaykhine and KGB Generals Kondaurov and
Bobkov used funding from the 1991 bond deal to finance Yeltsin’s successful
campaign, Clinton too came out from the hinterlands and political backwaters (as did
Yeltsin) with illegal CIA funding, facilitated by Goldman Sachs.146 Clinton himself
would be on the verge of declaring personal bankruptcy in 1996 (due to legal fees)
and ten years later somehow be worth over $100 million, without really ‘working.’
When the 1991 covert war funded by the September 1991 bond deal is compared to the
political developments in Arkansas in the late 1980s, there are remarkable similarities:
• The use of covert operations funds channeled through bankers to bring relative
political unknowns (to the national political scene) to the Presidency of a global
power;
• The use of Goldman Sachs to lend respectability and credibility to the illegal money
movements;
• The willingness of Goldman Sachs to arrange financing for bonds to support illegal
covert operations;
• The multiple suicides and violent deaths of participants and investigators of those
illegal operations;
The massive loan defaults (on payoffs and bribes masquerading as loans or
nontaxable income) forcing the closing of banks and losses to legitimate bank
investors.
It is no wonder that Anne Williamson, in testifying before Congress summarized the
Russian situation with the following words: “In short, the Russian bond market was the
Arkansas Development Finance Authority gone international.”
This is long enough. Another post in a few hours to wrap up part 2.
Here’s the link: http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_Part_II_26122008.pdf
Most of Shamir’s plot seems to rely on the existence of this “between 73,000 and 280,000 tonnes of illegal Black Eagle/Yamashita/Marcos gold”
Peter AU, like I said in answer to blue on epigenetics “try to suspend judgment for more than 5 minutes or 5 days” over on that thread, and we’ll go deeper.
Dig deeper:
Point # 1: It isn’t Israel Shamir’s “plot”. He is doing a patriotic service to Russia, the USA and the hapless captive citizens of Israel (he’s dual citizen of Russia/Israel and a convert to Russian Orthodoxy……) by posting someone else’s work, other than his own, but on his website.
Point # 2: Since he’s no fool –Why is he doing this????—–I gave you two articles to read…read…then take those into consideration as to whether he has any credibility or not, on those matters which he IS the author of…… and time is short to rein in these psychopaths in my considered judgment it is not time to nit pick and hastily discard based even on one or several imperfections. No!
Point # 3: It IS time to grasp the entire panorama presented and use your pattern recognition capacities to see whether or not the Pattern makes any sense. It makes a Ton of sense, IMHO.
Point # 4: Don’t allow ego, preconceptions or anything else to make the fundamental error of “missing the forest” for a few trees you may be sceptical of. But on the broader forest???? You and I have 20+ pages of documentation at the end of this article (including court documents……) and more than 20 pages of similar hard documentation at the end of Part 1 and my quick look tells me this is serious and not bogus. It does not purport to be “perfect”. It purports to be a damn good hypothesis, and at this point, I tend to agree to the point that I used the “Fast Eddy” analogy.
Or if you prefer, how about “Russians are slow to saddle up, but when they do, they ride fast.”???
“Don’t allow ego, preconceptions or anything else…”
A few of Shamir’s articles are good, some are not. Since that first time we had a difference over him I have looked at a few of his articles.
When those fictional tonnages of gold are included in an article, everything, every stated fact, every link, has to be throughly researched and checked to see what is accurate and what is not. Nothing can be taken for granted. A huge job.
What is Shamir’s area of expertise? In the few blogs that I now include in my daily reading, each has an area of expertise. When they drift away from their particular area of expertise, which most do occasionally, the quality drops considerably.
Peter, it is hard to do very much with your reply.
“some articles are good, some are not”.
Surely you could remember the article that you are critical of and point out where Shamir goes off the track of reason. THEN I, we have something to seriously consider, on the topic of him.
But a simply vague assertion, tied to nothing in particular is not analysis. It’s just “personal preference” “my opinion is just as good as your opinion” sort of stuff. Be concrete please.
Have you ever been in court as eithr plaintiff or defendant? How would such vaguery hold up there?
But as I said the subject is the hypothesis in Collateral Damage I and Collateral Damage 2, not Shamir, whose articles do provide a bit more court admissible facts than your comment. Not to be hard on you. He’s a pro, you are not. Does it say something that he posted htese 2 articles?
I say it probably does, because without a doubt in my mind, he would not do so without more analysis than either you or I have had time for, to date. Therefore , if you are worried about time and the difficulty of getting to the bottom of the 2 reports, I would take that as encouragement that it is worth our time, if it was worth his. Especially given the deep, deep, deep implications of the hypothesis.
Until proven otherwise. With no complaints about difficulty. Because if THAT cast of characters in those reports are taken down, Russia and the West are both saved from these A-holes.
This is incredible, Bro 93. Thanks for the education! Look forward to the next post…
Well, S113 you don’t need to wait. Do a search of Collateral Damage 1 and Collateral Damage 2 and with luck you will find it on places other than Israel Shamir’s site.
As I pointed out to Peter AU a few minutes ago, Shamir’s posting someone else’s work, he’s not an idiot or on the wrong side of this fight, so IMHO this calls for saddling up and riding faster than normal, not dawdling, nitpicking, or getting cold feet. Until a critical flaw is found. And I haven’t found it yet.
Join the search!!
How much above-ground gold (gold that has been mined) is there in all the world? The best estimate at the end of 2011 is that around 165,000 metric tons (or tonnes) have been mined in all of human history. That’s about 181,881 ordinary tons or 363,762,732 pounds, or 5,820,203,717 ordinary ounces. Where is the truth and where is the hoax ?
Ioan my friend, this is the one figure that stretched my credulity somewhat. I didn’t let that largest gold tonnage figure stop me, yet.
The important thing is the over-arching pattern.
Makes enough sense to me to do some fast reconnaissance. This is BIG. Huge!
Katherine posted Collateral Damage 1 first, a few weeks ago.
I first read that from her link, which was NOT to Israel Shamir’s site.
Also see response to Peter AU, and S 113.
By the way, the gold theme fits incredibly well with your poem. Anyone notice that???
In great spiritual/psychological/political/strategic depth!!
Interestingly, just a few days ago I read an article about the Vatican, the scandals around the money business revealed partially by a former employee of the former Pope and then went on further to search on a question: what amount of gold has the Vatican, giving the long history of its existence…then arrived at these numbers above. If we think through and look back in time, the Vatican comes up from the ashes of the Roman Empire. How much gold was that heritage which the Vatican took over? Real answers are rare to find, if any, just speculations. No wonder, this is one of the biggest secrets in the world. Some are saying that the Vatican is the richest entity on the world. Are they far from the truth ? it may be so. How far reach their hands ?
Ah, the poem and the gold, thanks for your note, it fits indeed, and you gave a feed.
An enticing scene in this new photo. Here in Jan. (physical locale, not café), that feeling of sun-soaking is not accessible! That said, I did spend some time during the past few hours, bathing in a different kind of warmth: Die Eltern (Ältern?) und ihren Küken. :-) Chaos melts away, and reveals something very, very familiar. Maybe the world is not so unfriendly and foreboding after all. Höffentlich. :-) (hoffentlich? I’m out of practice.) Anyway, right now, like the gals above, I’m serenely basking in the glow of potential, long-awaited, positive outcomes.
OK, I deliberately expressed my above comment in somewhat cryptic terms, firstly because my German is poor, and secondly, because I thought it better to hint at what I was saying, instead of saying what I was saying.
I’m saying that Germany is being run by a Council of Elders, presumably wise :-), to prevent the exploitation of the German population (once again) in service of an European war.
This is an authentic, indigenous German form of leadership, from my view — implemented, I presume, because the democracy has become such a farce that it’s incapable of protecting its own people.
There. That’s the idea I am trying to put into words. Possibly false, just my view on things. :-)
So, what you really wanted to mean was the following message:
“democracy has become such a farce that it’s incapable of protecting its own people”
I find that this comment attacking democracy is a pattern by a group here ( as well as the absolute demonization/criminalization of the left ) but, demolish democracy in favour of what?
Then, I just recall that The Saker maintains the same point in his book:
“The democratic system is a fraud used by the rich for their own interests” ( “The Essential Saker”, pag 26. )
Coincidence…or not so…..
Anon,
You may have fallen into the trap they set for us. When they say ‘democracy’, at best they are talking about republicanism. The only democratic part of our system is we get to choose which faction we would prefer to rule us for the next three years. As soon as we have ‘exercised our democratic right’, then we are expected to go back to sleep until they wake us up again for the next ritual electoral farce. I always liken it to taking a child to a giant toy store, and then telling them they can only pick from these two toys. How is this democracy? Liberal representative ‘democracy’ is designed to give the feel of popular sovereign rule without actually giving it. The best slave is the one who thinks they are free.
I am a radical democracy advocate, somewhere between Grassroots Democracy and Anarchy. But during the Chavez presidency (may his blessed soul rest in peace), I started to see the possibility for a temporary enlightened dictatorship. Little like the Trump phenomenon, sometimes the damage to the body politic is so bad, that a giant leap is required which can only be shepherded in by strong unifying popular figure. Also watching us dismantle Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, I can see that within some nations made up of tribal or sectarian cohorts, there is a requirement for a very strong central government to keep everyone peaceful. National democracy only works within idealised homogenous nations, something that never really existed.
So until we all become saints and angels and Anarchy becomes possible, my ideal society at the moment is a complete local democracy governing at the grassroots level, and a strong central government dealing with defence, foreign affairs and trade regionally. Real democracy can lead to social division into cantons, we still need a unifying central identity to maintain cohesion. This is what Federalisation was supposed to deliver, but the local and federal levels overlap too often. A Popular Commonwealth sounds about right.
Greetings Anon – I can appreciate your concern (haven’t read The Saker’s book so I wasn’t influenced by his view.)
This is annoying, I’ll acknowledge that upfront, but my reply above is only applicable within the very specific circumstances to which I was referring. Therefore, I’m not going to take it, or a part of it, out of that specific context and discuss it.
That said — on a general level (without referencing any specific place or situation) –
I wonder if both The Saker and I are saying that the process which goes under the label of “democracy”, in actual practice, bears no or little resemblance to the meaning of the term, ” democracy “, as it is commonly defined. So we both would be suggesting replacing democracy with democracy, so to speak. :-)
(I say I won’t talk about it, and then… I talk about it.)
My initial reference applied specifically to Germany. In my view– From the creation of Germany as a nation, certain challenges have been in place, which have undermined the relationship between the state and the people. Challenges which are rather unique to this specific region’s history.
So why is this democratic Council of (presumably Wise) Elders functioning as a band-aid solution (in desperate times)? I think it’s because the German culture has very specific expectations for authority and tradition. It is expected that as we age, we continue to accumulate knowledge, through experience and time spent in learning, and then pass this knowledge on to younger generations. And elders are expected to transition into guardians or protectors of the German traditions. Because, we Germans are about being German forever. :-) Obviously, not every person will fit this mold. But some will – and they will be approved of by being given authority. And we will then expect these people in authority to protect us and our German heritage. I’m sorry if that is too vague, but that’s the best explanation I can come up with.
(@S113, continued… insofar as possible)
While Anonymous and Earthrise discussed the wishability of democracy (why should we keep it when it is now bad – why should we dump it, when we have no idea what to replace it with), you, S113, simply stated that we, the Germs, are ruled by some „Elders“ and that this is good…:
„I’m saying that Germany is being run by a Council of Elders, presumably wise :-), to prevent the exploitation of the German population (once again) in service of an European war. This is an authentic, indigenous German form of leadership…“ and
„From the creation of Germany as a nation, certain challenges have been in place, which have undermined the relationship between the state and the people. (…) So why is this democratic Council of (presumably Wise) Elders functioning as a band-aid solution (in desperate times)? I think it’s because the German culture has very specific expectations for authority and tradition. (…) elders are expected to transition into guardians or protectors of the German traditions. Because, we Germans are about being German forever. :-) (…) (Only) some will (…) – and they will be approved of by being given authority. And we will then expect these people in authority to protect us and our German heritage.“
I am impressed by your thorough knowledge about institutions nobody but you ever heard about. May I ask, not *too* sarcastically, whether you have been to Antarctica lately and received these infos about the current inner structure of Germany there? Your germ „Elders“ are „being given authority“: by who? by the Rottchild dynasty or extraterrestrials or earlier Elders who pass on their Elderness? Is Kaiser Barbarossa among these elder Elders? He is supposed to sleep in the Kyffhäuser mountains, and to wake up and save us in case we will ever be confronted with bad luck – but never did so far, obviously because everything was fine until today – but perhaps does he select Elders in secret? By the way, when, according to you, was Germany „created as a nation“? In 6 AD, by Arminius? In 1871 by Bismarck? In 1991 by Genscher and Krause by signing the 2+4 treaty? Your answer would be a first hint where in history to look for your German Council of Elders. Beginning with the Middle ages, the cities acquired a self-government where the wealthy assumed the right to decide for everybody else. These people were called „Patrizier“, and whatever they were, they were no democrats, no advocats of the people, and they do not exist anymore for hundreds of years, thus they will not save us from a new war.
My impression is that what you dream about are English and American lawless, just factual institutions, like the KuKluxClan or in Germany‘s Middle Age the „Holy“ Vehm: People selected by themselves decide(d) who is allowed to continue to live and who is not. They are no democrats either and their only acts „for society“ are to murder who they do not like. Is that your ideal? In England this seems much worse: from films like „The Good Shepherd“ or „The Draughtsman‘s contract“ we know that the English lump together and kill someone this ad hoc group wants to kill just because they want to, which, as they are English, gives them all the right they need to proceed. Yes, the english slander-and-destroy-system has infested all of Germany at least since 1933 and can do whatever they want to whoever they want – but again it is not a new and better form of democracy, rule for the people, avoiding evil.
The only germ group that is assumed to rule the whole country in secret „for its best“ (as this group defines it) is the „DVD“ in Dachau which Michael Shrimpton first mentioned; for that he was thrown into jail by the English (who thus proved that also the DVD, if it exists at all, is an english operation working for England, not Germany), and I hope that this will not happen to you too.
The question how to run a country well to me seems not yet answered by your praise for the German Council of Elders. It should probably be discussed at another occasion, taking more models than only this one into account. So long the warning of Anonymous seems appropriate: „… Attacking democracy is a pattern … but, demolish democracy in favour of what?“ The general rejoicing about Trump‘s personnell choices and forming a military government – „it must be much better since it will be nothing like before“ – seems to be on the way to mimick the early days of Hitler‘s regime. Is history being repeated before our eyes, and if yes, what Council of whose Elders decided to do right now just that?
bp
bp, this is the most insightful or pertinent comment I have read thus far, speculating about Trump’s administration. It is worth noting, and carefully considering in the weeks ahead (IMO :-)
Personally, I very much appreciate your comments, even if they are founded on criticisms of what I put forth previously!, and I would love to get involved in this (maybe even revolutionary) conversation. But I don’t live there, so that’s it for me on this subject. :-)
Thanks again for the reply!
We all know that feeling these girls are experiencing, being recharged by our solar mother. That feeling of the sun on our backs in the morning, or as these angels are enjoying, eyes closed feeling it energising right into our souls. There is something spiritual in this photo, these young Venuses at the height of their fertility face to face with our goddess in the sky. They are shining on each other, Sol and her daughters. I am just happy to be a witness, my soul basking in theirs. The only feeling comparable to the sun on my face, is the unhooded light of a female at full luminance. These are the days life seems worth living.
Very beautiful, Earthrise! Nice reminder of the ultimate bliss available in these totally mundane, everyday moments. Always beneficial to be reminded of that.
Hi S113, Happy New Year!
As germ-on-duty on this site (as it seems) I assume or usurp the duty of helping you in your plight re „The Awful German Language“ (as Samuel L. Clemens saw it): „Eltern“ (plural) = parents, „alt, älter, am ältesten“ = old, older, the oldest. While „die Eltern“ is obviously the same word as „die älteren“ (those who are older), the meaning is fixed as „those of the older ones who happen to be your father and mother“. Biologically, „die Eltern von Küken“ are cock and hen, but the word „die Eltern“ is not used for animals, and in West Germany, cock, hen and chick are all regarded as animals. In the GDR (East Germany), however, at least in the late 70s, I found that young ladies were referred to by gents interested in them as „Hennen“ (hens) with both parties comfortable with this expression, which I found too disconcerting to explore the subject more deeply.
The word „elders“ – for you visibly one of those nasty words known in the trade as „false friends of the translator”, since you seem to equate it with Eltern/parents and Ältere/older ones – is known to me only from the infamous concoction „learned elders from Zion“, which was a strange way to translate the original French „sage“ or the secondary Russian „mudrec“ into English. My computerized dictionary LingoPad 2.6 (*very* useful for someone in fatal love with the German language, and free at http://www.lingopad.de and/or at //dict.tu-chemnitz.de) tells me that the (invisible, except for the programatic pamphlet of the jesuit world conspiracy) word „elders“ would have to be translated as „Respektspersonen“, and „Council of Elders“ as „Ältestenrat“ – a board of people who are neither worthy of particular respect, nor of a particular age, but sent from their superiors into it for (e.g. in the Bundestag) deciding upon procedural questions „which can be tricky and therefore should preferably be dealt with by experienced persons“.
As I pointed out here a while ago already, the title of these JesuitoAngloZios‘ (JAZ‘) political pamphlet (or PoPa) is like its content and like the use made of it a multiple Veraschung or Verhohnepiepelung or Verhöhnung (derision) of everybody touched by it, or in other words just another system of false alert plus false saviour, or in David Icke‘s terms just another example of the mind manipulation technique he defined as the (pseudo)chain of problem-reaction-solution: a future enslavement of mankind was depicted in this JAZ’-text as a „plan“, thus making this JAZ’-PoPa an „alarm“ about a future problem; then a saviour in the person of the JAZ‘ agent Adolf Rotschild-Schickelgruber (ARSch I.), plus others before and after him, was launched as JAZ „reaction“ to the JAZ invented and popularized problem: he asked to be elected so as to stop the already ongoing implementation of that plan, and presented (first as a text, his „political program“, and then by establishing his political practice) his „solution“ to the problem, which logically should have been the contrary of everything announced in the PoPa, but in reality was the exact execution of what had been announced in the JAZ’-PoPa.
The JazPoPa is thus just another one of those provocative texts that „warn“ of impending disaster (always the same, the NWO of the JAZs) in a way which does nothing to help and much to popularize the notion that what is standing and marching against us is much too mighty for any resistance to be of any use – just like „Brave New World“ and „1984“. In both, doublespeak is used for debilizing humankind, and this doublespeak begins with the title: „Brave“ new world means nothing „brave” but a cowardly attack on unsuspecting and defenseless humans, in „1984“ Big “Brother“ is not like a brother and every other word means its opposite by design („war is peace“ etc.) – and the same is obviously the case with „les sages“ or the „mudrecy“ who allegedly either wrote the JAZ’-PoPa or are described in it or both: they ar not „wise“ at all but bestially wicked and, like „Älteste“ in a germ „Ältestenrat“, just puppets placed into a board to be their masters‘ voice, and thus their masters‘ whips. I seem to be the only one who ever did (as summarily and insufficiently as I did) the absolute minimum required for understanding any „difficult“ or disputed text, namely the establishing of a „philological“ text taking into account and commenting several variants. Everybody else, friend and foe, seem to take this text for granted, like a gospel. Well, the primary language of the JAZ’-PoPa is French, and there the „elders“ are „sages“, and in French (only, but not in English,Germ or Russian) this word meaning „wise“ (DE weise, RU mudryj) also means „well behaved“ (DE artig, RU poslushnyj, vezhlivyj). In French the locus of these sages is „Sion“ which in French again (again unlike in EN, DE, RU) means two very different things: on one hand „Zion“ (in all of its varieties, e.g. in Palestine, in England etc.), but in the context of a text partly stolen from a French author living nearby (Maurice Joly) and used for formulating a Jesuit PoPa in one of the Swiss factories for producing jesuits, the foremost meaning would be the Swiss catholic bishopric of Sitten (in swiss DE) or Sion (in swiss FR): „Les sages de Sion“ = „The well-behaved of Sitten“ = „Die Artigen von Sitten“, meaning in reality, since these jesuits love to write tongue in cheek, = „Die Strolche aus Sitten“ (the Naughty Ones from Sitten), or simply „Die Sittenstrolche“ (a third meaning since „Sitten“ also means „customs“, „morals“), thus „The enemies of moral“ or, more clearly (LingoPad2.6:) „The sexual molesters“…
So much, dear S113, for your vocabulary for describing what it is what you love about Germany: that, according to you, we are governed by „elders“ as in „elders of Zion , i.e. par des „sages“ comme dans „sages de Sion“, i.e. by Jesuiten-Strolche like those produced in Switzerland, which professionally pose as „holier than thou“. (To be continued)
bp
bp, what I do love is your comments. And I’m glad I inspired you to write these lengthy replies. Sadly, I have expressed myself poorly (in two languages) — I’m not arguing against (totalitarian) Zionist control over Germany. I am a firm believer in this.
I was arguing or suggesting that — somehow — outside the bounds of clear Zionist control, some Ältern had surfaced and are operating outside the official system. In the background. (In case you hadn’t noticed yet, I love to speculate wildly while in the café. I’ve racked up a colourful collection of theories over time on a range of subjects.)
Is this a clearer explanation?? Probably not. :-) I should try a third language. :-) What I loved was the familiarity (comforting, for me) of this ‘Germanic parental oversight’ (strict, uncompromising, no explanations/justifications…which can create a baffling outward appearance.) The thought of all that made me feel ‘warm and fuzzy’ for a while. I’m certainly not suggesting any of that is formalised in the institutions of Germany’s governance. Rather, I’m suggesting this has emerged — possibly — at this time due to circumstances.
Speculation, purely. Wishful thinking, likely. A flight of imaginative fancy, most definitely. But this is my preferred activity while seated at a table in this café.
Now, to read what you wrote more carefully…
Hi, S113,
I am sorry my answer got messed up so that part two appeared before part one…
I definitely like your optimism and your speculating; I do read and appreciate your posts. Yes, we may both be victims of linguistic imprecisions that lead to misunderstandings and lengthy corrections, which in the end seem pointless… but, then, were not, since my remark about the only „elders“ ever mentioned being those in that title of that political pamphlet of ca. 1897 (not 1905) seems to have inspired elsi (@ January 11, 2017 · at 11:10 pm UTC) to use the word twice here, and even to begin to appoint „elders“ of her choice for a council of elders in Europe. If everyone here follows her example, this council of elders will be quickly complete and can begin its work in a spirit of comforting Germanic parental oversight.
Don‘t stop inventing theories, it saves everybody doing so from solidifying into the state of brain death (but better declare them clearly as theories…) Or, an allowed way of presenting theories as facts is writing literature: „Brave New Germany, or How the Germanic Parental Elders saved the world“.
Unfortunately my way of spending my time is at odds with the Café rhythm; I hope, my quasi apology for having been probably too apodictic will still reach you.
Cheers,
bp
Lack of evidence against Russian athletes ‘damning to credibility of McLaren Report’
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/373107-evidence-russian-athletes-mclaren-report/
“RT: This latest decision to overturn the suspension of four Russian athletes because the evidence isn’t sufficient, feels similar to the ban right before the Olympic Games in Rio, where there seemed to be a lack of evidence too. This keeps repeating, doesn’t it?
Ellis Cashmore: It does. This insufficient evidence is actually quite damning when you think about it. There is an implicit critique of the credibility of the McLaren report. The international Bobsleigh and Skeleton Federation originally accepted the McLaren Report, like anybody else in the world – apart from Russia, of course – and now it seems to have said: “We will ask the IOC: could we see the evidence?” And that evidence has not been forthcoming. Thus they feel that in the interests of natural law and justice they cannot sustain the suspension on the athletes. So they have said: “Ok, we’ll take away the suspension and we’ll see how we get on from this point. Let’s see if the evidence turns up.” My guess is that it probably won’t.”
What happened to Uncle Bob 1 ? I miss also Straight-Bat for long, elsi is also on a watching mode, as Isabella and Vercia. Ladies and gentlemen, we are waiting for you, we didn’t forget you !
Sorry, for the delay
“Life gets in the way”.
Two firms are particularly central to the crime of the millenium hypothesis which Katherine Originally posted here a few weeks ago and which Mr Israel Shamir has apparently been attentive enough to to post on his site: Goldman Sachs and the Carlyle Group. I finish up this mornings post on this subject with a few more qoutes suggesting that this hypothesis well deserves investigation,as the Russian people and the American people are the common victims.
Look what happened Nov 8 with less than half the American voters awake to the point of having one eye 10% open. Imagine the benefits of opening that eye 50%!!!
The author is E.P Heidner
Collateral Damage Part 2
“Goldman Sachs: Corporate Citizen or Privateer
The assignment of responsibility for the privatization of Russian industry to Goldman Sachs provides an interesting study in deal making. In comparison, the negotiation and bidding associated with the privatization of Soviet oil reserves in the Caspian basin took multiple years. The Soviet – followed by the Russian – bureaucracies haggled with multiple international corporations over a seven or eight-year period to determine which western corporations would have the opportunity to control the Soviet portion of the Caspian oil reserve.159 In comparison, the privatization of the ‘entire’ Soviet economy was not open for bid, was decided without public scrutiny, and was done in a very short time. The deal was made in 1991 according to LeMonde, although no announcement of it can be found in the 1991 press, suggesting its timing was linked to the September 1991 financing arranged by Goldman.160 By then, Hormats and Zoellick had already been engaged with the CIA in scouting out Soviet industry.161 Years later, when Goldman Sachs opened an office in Moscow, they flew in George H.W. Bush for the opening.162 By that time, they had already managed deals worth over a hundred billion – the exact amount is unreported – earning from 1.5% to 7% of gross revenue on every deal.163 During the privatization, Goldman Sachs was a key player in managing the finances of oligarchs Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Boris Berezovsky 164 created by a collusion of the KGB and Riggs Bank. 165 ”
Extensive footnotes, people.
“Carlyle Group
Very little will ever be known about the Carlyle Group, a privately held partnership with offices in both Luxembourg and Guernsey, where financials records need never be
divulged. Most of the time, even the Carlyle investors do not have a track on what their investment is.171 Snippets of news of the company are seldom released to the press, and the lack of transparency only fuels speculation. What is commonly understood is that the Carlyle Group has a reputation as a group of private equity bankers with the “inside track.”
“Carlyle was named by The New York Times in 2002 as the biggest defense company in the US, and the largest private defense company in the world, based on its controlling share of ownership in a vast range of defense, intelligence, and communications companies. The Wall Street Journal simply calls it the biggest private investment firm on the planet, bar none. Because of Carlyle’s unusually close connections to defense and intelligence figures, questions about the role of Carlyle in world affairs go deep. So entwined is the Carlyle Group with the Pentagon and other US defense and intelligence agencies and companies, it is widely regarded as an extension of the US government, or at least the National Security Agency, the CIA, and the Pentagon.” 172
The Carlyle Group was created by in 1987, but is widely recognized as starting on the path to becoming the $89 Billion financial juggernaut it is today when Frank Carlucci left the Bush administration, with coterie officials from the CIA, the State Department and Defense Department.173 Frank Carlucci had been Assistant Director of the CIA, National Security Advisor, and then Ronald Reagan’s Defense Secretary. He had the mission of cleaning up after the Iran-Contra affair in the Reagan administration, and according to those involved, allowed four of the five supply operations to continue while declaring the matter closed.174 This was in January of 1989, the same year when George H.W. Bush was placing key National Security assets in Riggs Bank, and starting the Riggs-Valmet financial penetration of the Soviet Union. In a world where it is common for departing senior officials to enter the revolving door between government and the private sector, the practice of being accompanied by a “phalanx of CIA and Pentagon staffers” is not common, especially when joining a company that has not been financially successful in the prior years. This should have been even more so suspicious in Carlyle, where cofounder Bill Conway had a notorious reputation of being extremely harsh on ‘unnecessary expense.’175 If anyone suspected a ‘covert ops program’ was under way, no one reported their suspicion. In retrospect, that seems to have been the case. ”
and:
” The speculation of this report is that in releasing $240 Billion in covert bonds to finance the collapse of the Soviet Union, this small group of politicians and bankers created a U.S. based, private sector vehicle for controlling and profiting from those funds. That vehicle was the Carlyle Group. Moreover, in managing the laundering of the Black Eagle Fund/Yamashita/Golden Lily/Marcos gold, Carlyle became the focal organization for doing that as well. At least six members of Carlyle that were either familiar with the creation of the gold trusts, or were advisors to Barrick Gold included: George H.W. Bush, Richard Helms, Vernon Jordan, Fidel Ramos, Paul Desmarais Sr. and Karl Otto Pohl.
It should seem no less coincidental that “on September 11, 2001… the group had organized a meeting at Washington’s Ritz Carlton Hotel with five hundred of its largest investors”.179 George H.W. Bush was in attendance, sitting with Osama Bin Ladin’s brother as the 9/11 terrorists executed the carnage that was to be the cover-up for the laundering of the $240 Billion in covert bonds that seem to have fed the success of the Carlyle Group. In the aftermath of 9/11, there would be a plethora of criticism of Carlyle and its ability to channel the profits from the Iraq War and the Homeland Security Act to individuals with the ‘inside track’.
Little noticed in the aftermath of 9/11 was the beginning of Carlyle’s Asset Management Group ‘second” private equity fund, managed by David Kupperman who was brought in from Goldman Sachs for this task. This fund would seek opportunities in new “areas of alternative asset management” also known as the “secondary, or resale, private equity market.”180 The main customers (buyers) would be “banks and pension funds.”181 The original fund was begun in 2001. By 2003, the ‘Asset Management Group’ was being spun-off in an employee buyout, with Carlyle maintaining a 40% interest.182 While the investments of the fund were not publicized, their direction should have been clear.183 The Carlyle fund was renamed Rock Creek Potomac. One of the General Partners of Rock Creek, John Sites (who previously created the mortgage department at Bears Stearns), was named to the Fannie Mae Board of Directors.
Carlyle Capital Corporation (CCC) was Carlyle’s second effort to facilitate the sub prime mortgage market. This effort was unique in the history of the firm, and was created as a publicly owned corporation. Its specialty was mortgage financing. CCC was well positioned with relationships with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. A long time Carlyle advisor – Robert Zoellick had been Executive Vice President at Fannie Mae between 1993 and 1997. David Moffet, who had been CEO at Freddie Mac joined Carlyle as well. The Carlyle Group’s total exposure when CCC declared bankruptcy in 2007 was $150 million, although the Carlyle Group loaned the company an additional $200 million in efforts to save it (or the reputation of the Group)– for naught. In this situation “The naughty Capital Corporation told shareholders it had no subprime exposure. But it did. It
said all the exposure was Triple A rated. But it wasn’t. It said liquidity was ample. But it isn’t.”184
In the aftermath of September 11th, the Carlyle Group made two quiet efforts to facilitate the subprime mortgage market. In both cases they limited in unprecedented ways their exposure to the risk. Their company misrepresented the investments. These types of actions suggest that those in control of Carlyle had the inside track on the future of the subprime market, and did not want their personal fortunes tied up with the subprime market. Once again, individuals close to the original September 1991 bond deal seem to be immune to the meltdown of 2008.
Motive: Profit, Economic Growth or Treason
There are several possible interpretations of the post 9/11 economic events:
(3 scenarios are outlined, Page 29. The author’s scenario is the third)
If people did not read part 1 search it, or take note Shamir is posting it, or here it is:
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Collateral_Damage_911
A very interesting element of Part 1 is the evidence that the 240 billion in bonds to “buy Russia” were 10 year treasury bonds floated illegally in 1991 and maturing in Sept 2001 and that records regarding this bond caper were specifically targetted in both Pentagon (Office of Naval Intelligence, that was on to the scam……) and WTC with all records destroyed on 911 giving the perpetrators the time needed to launder the whole megascam through what is discussed in part 2: the Sub-prime US Housing Crisis.
I was searching for one real zinger that had to do with earlier records in the first stages of the caper involving the Clintons, and the assertion that records concerning Mena Arkansas, etc were taken out in another false flag earlier, the Oklahoma City bombing of the Federal Building there. It’s in Part 2. look for it.
What the heck. Here’s how Part 2 ends:
” A third scenario seems more likely. Under this scenario, the bankers fall into two categories -old money bankers (industrial banking families) and new money bankers (Privateer bankers) – splitting the illegal profits and assets that the U.S. Government supposedly cannot rightfully claim. This partnership condoned the murder of 3,000 people on September 11, 2001 to keep their secret and past crimes hidden. Being the very same group of individuals that orchestrated the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, this group has planned and executed the collapse of U.S. Treasury, in a manner not unlike the way they dismantled the Soviet Treasury. They have crashed the stock market so they can discretely buy up for a mere fraction of the value, key American industries, just as they did in the Soviet Union. This partnership of old and new money deliberately crashed the American economy with the following conscious decisions. • This partnership of old and new money opened the way for petty criminals and thieves to sell hundreds of billions of dollars of high risk mortgages, so that white collar criminals could peddle them to unsuspecting fund managers as triple A rated securities. This left the pension funds holding the bulk of the ‘toxic waste’ while bankers took the cream. • This partnership deliberately prevented regulatory oversight of those activities through court action, illegal lobbying, and sweetheart loans to regulators; • This partnership regularly misled the public about the risk they were allowing to be created and absorbed under their watch; • This partnership deliberately ‘hid’ the risk in major government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) such as (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG) through ongoing accounting misrepresentation over multiple years; • This partnership protected their own financial assets from risk before letting the public understand what was happening;188 • This partnership is currently engaged in ensuring the future failure of the Treasury by convincing the U.S. Congress to committing $700 billion as a first installment to prevent a credit crisis – without any hard evidence. It was an argument paralleled only by the ‘weapons of mass destruction’ stories the Bush administration used to convince Americans to fund a trillion dollars in revenues to the Defense and Energy Industries. Major news periodicals and analysts at the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank said there was no evidence of a credit crisis.189 • This partnership is using the Treasury injections for personal and corporate profit rather than crisis mitigation. Several banks are using the injections to fund mergers and acquisitions (PNC, Chase)190,191; some are spreading the story ‘we did not want the money, but took it anyway’(USB)192; Goldman Sachs received a 50% ‘gift’ in it’s $10 billion injection193-putting $5 Billion to profit; and others have used the bailout funds to award themselves $70 billion in personal compensation bonuses.194 • This partnership’s new membership has been groomed and directed by the very same individuals who crashed the Soviet economy and now hold a large portion of former Soviet wealth in discrete, off-shore, non-transparent holding companies. Russian President Putin has spent the last decade trying to reclaim Russia’s national wealth under various laws, and found that the only successful way was through the tax evasion laws – the same strategy selected by the FBI when it needed to close down the John Dillinger crime operation. • This partnership represents a socio-economic class who view themselves as elite, special, above-the-law and outside of the law. In this respect, they are true, clinical sociopaths, not unlike the individuals who created the Third Reich and Stalin’s authoritarian regime.195
The group responsible for this crisis is a tight knit association of bankers and government “intelligence” officials who have formed a common bond around defending their personal definition of American democracy abroad. They claim to defend the ideals of democracy, capitalism and the American way of life while simultaneously murdering and financially raping their fellow citizens in the name of National Security and profit. Somehow, these crimes are rationalized as collateral damage, and being for the ‘greater good of America,’ which now seems exposed as the empty promise it has always been.196 The argument that needs to now be made is: rather than being ‘over zealous patriots,’ have these men committed treason? Have they violated international treaty law? If the actions taken against the Soviet Union in 1991 can be justified as part of an ongoing Cold War, with economic acts being a legally sanctioned method of war by Executive Order, is not turning those same economic acts on the U.S. economy then an act of war against the U.S., hence treason? If treason is considered too radical of a conclusion, then consider this insider recolection about Frank Carlucci, the executive who headed up the dark side of the Carlyle Group.
“In the late 1980s Iran-Contra whistleblower Gene Wheaton expanded on what General Walters and his associates had been doing since the 1960s. Wheaton had been a former police officer, military criminal investigator, and security contractor. He also used to be a counter-terrorism consultant for the Rockwell Corporation, the Saudi Royal Family, and the Shah of Iran, among other things. All this was before he was brought into the “inner circle”, which turned out to consist of people he didn’t want anything to do with. In 2002 Wheaton recalled: In the late 70s, in fact, after Gerry Ford lost the election in ’76 to Jimmy Carter, and then these guys became exposed by Stansfield Turner and crowd for whatever reason … there were different factions involved in all this stuff, and power plays … Ted Shackley and Vernon Walters and Frank Carlucci and Ving West and a group of these guys used to have park-bench meetings in the late 70s in McClean, Virginia so nobody could overhear their conversations. They basically said, “With our expertise at placing dictators in power,” I’m almost quoting verbatim one of their comments, “why don’t we treat the United States like the world’s biggest banana republic and take it over?” And the first thing they had to do was to get their man in the White House, and that was George Bush…”197
It seems as though a plan was born.”
hi all,
it was taking too long…
after Honduras, Paraguay, Argentina, Brazil, now…
It was Venezuela’s turn…
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Venezuelan Parliament Says President Maduro Abandoned Post
(REUTERS/ Carlos Garcia Rawlins | Latin America | 00:19 10.01.2017)
National Assembly of Venezuela declared Monday that President Nicolas Maduro abandoned his post, local media reported.
MEXICO CITY (Sputnik) – The opposition-led National Assembly of Venezuela declared Monday that President Nicolas Maduro abandoned his post as result of dereliction of duty, local media reported.
According to El Nacional newspaper, total of 106 deputies voted in favor of this decision. Pro-government deputies left the hall before the voting procedure started.
The newspaper added that the lawmakers had operated within the framework of the article 233 of the state’s constitution, which allows holding presidential elections in case of declaring the incumbent president as absent from work.
On October 25, 2016, the opposition-led National Assembly of Venezuela voted for initiating impeachment proceedings against Maduro and ordered him to appear at a Congress session on November 1. The parliament’s resolution mentioned the president’s “criminal and political liability and neglect of office.”
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see full article in: https://sputniknews.com/latam/201701101049417656-venezuelan-parliamen-president-abandons-post/
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Does the little bag of bad things from o’bomber (and his band of khazar evildoers) have no end?
all the best!
bcwsc
The zionazi color revolution, mk. 2, has begun.
See also:
Supreme Court: Venezuela’s Parliament Not Entitled to Dismiss President Maduro
https://sputniknews.com/latam/201701101049421126-parliament-cant-dismiss-maduro/
“According to the article 336 of the constitution and in accordance with the legislation, the deputies were demanded to refrain from continuation of the process of announcing political responsibility of the state’s president and from adopting any acts, which go beyond the framework of the constitutional powers,” the court said Monday.”
This govno needs to be stopped now, or the zionazis will turn Venezuela into another Syria war crime spree. Round the rightwing c-sucks up, shut down their bases of operation. Sod the public relations image, this is 2002 all over again and Maduro does not have Chavez’s charisma to turn it around the way it was done then. The zionazi friendlies need to be neutralised now, before the sods snowball this govno.
” Bro 93 on January 09, 2017 · at 8:51 pm UTC
Blue, with all due respect please suspend judgment a bit longer than 5 minutes or 5 days.
Ask yourself this question: Just when did you know, with certainty that 911 was an inside job, and be able to prove it to thousands or millions of other people?
Answer that question, in the Cafe, please and we will delve deeper into this matter.
Thank you.
Bro 93
”
I still don’t with certainty, and I can’t prove anything to most people unless they are willing and able listen and think critically. But I always doubts about what happened from the time it happened, even though I mostly assumed it was as reported — i.e., saw no reason immediately to doubt it — and frankly did not consider doubts for a few days — putting into the category of ‘probably it happened, but exactly what I did not know — something happened, and the buildings were down’. I did not have much emotion about it. The only comment I made to a neighbor that day was “well, we can’t ignore this”.
Within a week or so I began to have some questions, as I gathered information, and shorty after I thought I saw some inconsistencies. Within a couple of months my position was ‘it was likely ‘they let it happen on purpose’ — but I still had little information to go on. I read the comments on Yahoo News — the original comment section, which was then discontinued, and eventually restored quite a bit later — and read abut what other people had heard or seen. during one discussion about explosives and melting steel, I noted that thermite might have used (I knew about the stuff years before, but had not heard of nanothermite), so I knew it would have been effective. I had not heard at that point anyone else suggest thermite could have been involved. Beyond that, I don’t remember when I reached probable conclusions, over the the months and years, but I am always skeptical of everything, and don’t make decisions or reach ‘firm’ conclusions until I need to make a decision about a thing — and I still can’t say I have any important decisions to make about 9/11, except to write a few things here and there. If it’s another false flag, then so be it; if it’s a tragedy of errors then so be it; but it’s trivial in terms of all the death and destruction — millions of dead and entire nations destroyed — deliberately inflicted by the empire through the years.
Quite some time back it became obvious that the pattern fit into the false flags, corruption, and aggression of the US and it’s empire, of course, so I would need a fair bit of evidence to counter my assumption that it was done by or with the help of factions in the US — basically, the neocons/libs/vulcan crazies.
In practical terms, I ‘knew’ it was a false flag within a few months. Having learned what I understand now over the past 15 years, I would likely have come to that working assumption within a week or two, maybe a few days, if I could get sufficient information about such an event. I’m much more familiar with the players and the patterns then I was then, having only had limited access to the internet for a short while back then.
For me the doubts started that night (central Australian time, the first attack happened about 10:00pm). They showed reaction from Arafat who was gutted, his lip trembling even more than usual, not long after showing a beaming Netenyahu conflating 9/11 to Palestinian resistance. Before that night I was following the Peace process very closely, and it was starting to look like the Pals were gaining support. In one fell swoop, Palestinian ‘terror’ tactics were neutralised, so that during the subsequent Second Intifada Hamas suffered a propaganda defeat for using suicide bombers (which they have since forsworn). I had already started to use the ‘Cui Bono’ filter to judge geopolitics, so on the night it was already very obvious that the winner of the attack was Israel. It wasn’t until a few weeks later that America’s benefit started to show, and so I came to the conclusion that someone in America left the gate open.
For me the first damning bit of evidence is that none of the planes were intercepted by the US Airforce. Not long before a pilot died in the cockpit and his plane was on autopilot to oblivion. The article stated that the US Airforce is notified as soon as a plane deviates from their flight path and jets are scrambled. Since then other damning bits of Truth came out; the missile attack on the Pentagon, the plane that didn’t crash into Pennsylvania, the controlled explosions of tower 1, 2 and 7 (falling at freefall, no skyscraper had ever fallen to fire).
The Big Lie works because people cannot afford to accept it and maintain their internal paradigms. Once your geopolitical hymen has been broken, all these Truths start pouring in. I think 16 years later my head has only just stopped spinning, and I am just now able to find some kind of foundation in a post-Truth world. We can’t as Bro93 asked you “prove it to thousands or millions of other people”, because they are not ready to hear it; in fact it would cause them psychological harm. We need to gently wake people up, then the Truth will find them.
Hence we are here, gently waking the West to itself.
I had dropped TV a year before and it took me a day or two to hook up an old tiny portable to get some fuzzy pictures from PBS, and maybe one of the commercial networks — both of which were fairly useless.
It still looks to me like the causal forces can be seen in PNAC — which is allied with Israel and include many zionists (largely the same as neocons in the US).
A big factor with what say or think is that tey just don’t have the time, energy, or priority of dealing with this stuff, so they just give an easy answer so they can get on with daily survival — but they know, if they give themselves the space to bring it to the surface.
I agree Blue,
They do know, subconsciously. They know subconsciously that our wealth relies on overseas adventures. They know that for us to be wealthy, billions must be poor. But they don’t acknowledge it consciously, and this cognitive dissonance plays a large part in the depression epidemic sweeping the West. I used to be angry, nowadays I find myself feeling a little jealous; ignorance is bliss.
Also agree about PNAC, but I don’t blame the Jews for this. They are only the frontman for the Empire; the eternal scapegoat. It is our Empire that Israel defends (for their own manufactured reasons), and when we can’t use the Oil lever anymore we will drop them like last night’s conquest.
“Peace process”
Process. A procedure where there is a guaranteed result at the end.
Long ago I realised this was just a dragging out process, like Kerry’s talks with Lavrov.
The US does not have a “peace process”
Russian leadership understood this and for over twelve months Lavrov blew smoke in Kerry’s face and sold him bridges.
Careful on the controlled demolition of the towers. No architect or engineer that values his/her professionalism would go for that one. Architects are dreamers that the engineer has to find a practical way to build their dreams. I notice a number of architects but very few engineers have signed up to truth.org.
Thanks for following up and straightforward answer, blue. I will do the same when fresh as a daisy tomorrow morning. Need to catch up on events and other posts and then let my subconscious do half the work under covers and stars.
Donald J. Trump Verified Account
@realDonaldTrump
“Meryl Streep, one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood, doesn’t know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes. She is a…..”
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/818419002548568064
I couldn’t agree more. A typical shallow limousine liberal type. Not impressed with her acting either. Saw a few films of her’s back in the 70s and 80s, all dripping with the sort of tedious soap opera crap one finds on pindo television. Avoided films that featured her ego since.
What language are we speaking here Vot Tak? You can tell the intended audience of propaganda by the language they use. When ‘Syrians’ are holding up signs in English, they are not speaking to their fellow Syrians, but to a Western audience. This forum is not in Russian, where terms like Pindo would be appropriate. This forum is aimed at Western audiences, and your hate speech is not only misplaced, but counter-productive. Play the ball my friend, not the player.
earthrise
“This forum is not in Russian, where terms like Pindo would be appropriate.”
Actually, I learned of the term pindo from Saker. You are trolling, again.
” Play the ball my friend, not the player.”
That is exactly what you are doing with that hypocritical nonsense. The usual justthetalk.com websayanim smear tactics..
“The usual justthetalk.com websayanim smear tactics”
I have no idea what this means, and your defensiveness tells me plenty about your motivations. Your hate only divides the People, and that is the Enemy’s work. Take a leaf out of Putin’s book, how did he respond when America expelled his diplomats? Grow up mate, this is no longer the playground. There are real-world consequences for your divisiveness.
please stop baiting and instead look up the words you don’t understand.
thanks,
The Saker
Nah. Earthrise is just a more gentle sort, not a trollish sort IMHO. Wants people to get along and be friends. Lots of people are social.
What you both have in common is you think your way would be better.
I understand both ways, and actually lean more to the rougher side. Rough grade sand paper removes more unwanted material than fine grade.
A more acidic solution dissolves more alkaline encrustations than neutral water does.
I’m here to learn and try to contribute something to stopping the Empire’s War on Russia, not make friends. But I’ve made a few despite myself! LOL.
I don’t mind “Pindo”. Or Outlaw Historiaan’s thesis that nothing but evil ever happened since 1607 between the rectangle with Maine, Florida, California and Washington State at its corners. Or Nussiminen’s priceless vitriol. Why? Because my fellow Americans deserve a lot of offending. If it drives 100 unchangeable idiots away but wakes up one other person, I’m for it.
Some people are quite nice, however. But have other redeeming qualities that make up for that lack of battle hardness. A lot of varieties of perspective is useful. And a lot of toleration, as long as fighters intend to be on the right side of this fight and are not stubbornly stupid about not changing, when all the evidence shows that their egoic position is both counterproductive and they could care less that it is counter-productive.
your hate speech
What “hate speech” for bleep’s sake? the man just expressed his opinion!
please don’t use that kind of meaningless labels.
thanks,
The Saker
“please stop baiting”
One can argue about who is baiting who here IMO.
“your hate speech”
I might not have used that expression here, but I can understand it quite clearly in the context of the myriads of posts by vot tak on this forum, using very bombastic, harsh language and labels.
And then, this is a Cafe, right?
Take Care
Kent
Vot tak is one of my favorite posters, along with larchmonter445 and auslander.
Shake hands comrades, I like both of you ! both of you are on the same battlefield with different approach, facing the same enemy.
Ioan and friends,
Unfortunately I have reached an impasse. A small but significant anti-Westerner tone has been creeping in here of late. While it has not reached the level of hate speech yet, this is the leading edge of the wedge. It is my duty as a citizen to criticise my country’s policies, attacking my own people makes me a traitor. And most importantly, driving a wedge between our Peoples only helps our ruling class. Division will only lead to war.
The Saker’s interjection has made my position here untenable, and unfortunately has only heightened my fears. I’ll leave you with my advice to Vot Tak, play the ball not the man. Divide and conquer is our Enemy’s modus operandi.
@earthrise: i daren’t write down my thoughts in response to your comment. that alone should suffice to speak volumes.
https://youtu.be/D6vu3nqx-Xk
Anon, this broke my heart; life can be so bitter-sweet sometimes. The ball is in The Saker’s court.
All I can say is that I’ve become decidedly anti-western (despite being here in the US). I was utterly appalled by the actions of the US, EU, and the empire, and it’s gone way down hull from there. It’s like being anti-Nazi while living in Nazi Germany.
This isn’t just criticizing US policies, which I have done for many years, but acknowledge the utter rot and corruption which is everywhere. It’s at the point where I can no longer consider Americans and residents of other western countries as ‘my own people’ — they are not my people (and have generally never been for most things — the massive lies, murder, and destruction of the world). When one grows up as part of a ‘family’ which are vicious gangsters at some point, is one is aware, it becomes necessary to give up on trying to fit in, and to renounce it. This culture is insanely predatory, despicable and inhuman, significantly more so than even the usual destructive human ‘animalistic’ tendencies will account for. The culture itself is sociopathic, toxic, vicious, criminal, and genocidal, now more than ever and getting worse. It is a fatal disease which few people are able to escape or develop immunity to, which infects even young children.
An anti-western “tone”? That doesn’t begin to express my disgust and contempt for what surrounds me and threatens to engulf me, and has for my entire life.
When I was a kid, attending an Episcopal church, there was a rich member (named Merkel, by the way) who had gone to Russia and gave a short talk about it. He said while there someone told him ‘You are very Russian”. “Is that supposed to be a compliment?” he had asked. “But of course.” was the reply. “I don’t consider as such” he told them. The ‘ugly American”. But no one objected or commented on it, the priest included, and in fact met with some approval, because he was rich, and gave money to the church, and it was typical of the people around me, typical of the culture and the country. So much for the ‘Christian’ and liberal Episcopalians. Hate speech? It was everywhere (and still is). and most people don’t even notice it or care. That’s the toxic environment I grew up in.
Blue, I think most of us here have felt the self-loathing that comes with being a Westerner; a mixture of shame at taking the 30 pieces of silver, and rage at the murder and destruction done in our name. I did not come here to betray my people, but to save them. I misread this site, I thought we were here to find a peaceful solution. If the Saker is happy with racist comments against Westerners, then something else is going on here I do not want to be a part of. Unless The Saker clears this up, this is my last Cafe.
Earthrise, I’m sorry to hear of you contemplating leaving the site – not only because you are the most prominent Aussie contributor and thus give me a feel of – well, not “home”, but at least the familiar. I cannot quite catch up with your issue here – would you be prepared to give me a summary? I’d like to help if I could. In Re the issue of name calling of foreigners – let us never forget the wartime “seppo’s” of Australia? Most peoples have been guilty of it. Please let me know if I can help. modPS.
Well, I don’t feel self loathing, I never took 30 pieces of silver either.I don’t consider ‘pindo’ to be particularly racist, nor denigrating as such words go. If you prefer I can refer to the vast majority of Americans I know as a-holes or idiots — which I have used in other venues (and in ranting to myself probably several times a day).
You are in Australia? Maybe it’s different in Australia — I am in the belly of the beast.
I don’t consider this betrayal at all — not as if I owe any loyalty to Americans anyway — but simply recognizing what is here and speaking the truth. Not speaking the truth would be betrayal of all of mankind — although I can’t say I owe particular loyalty to them either, any more than to any other species on the planet, most of which have far more integrity than humans. I just happen to be here in this reality system, with no conscious decision on my part, so I do what I can to help as I can.
I’m certainly in no position to save anyone, although if they can use some of what I say or do to save themselves (from what, exactly, I don’t know), then I have no objection. Trying to ‘save’ anyone is way more responsibility than I can handle or am entitled to take on, and I am still enmeshed in just working on my own absurdities, ignorance, and weaknesses.
Very often when people have tried to ‘save’ me they just screwed things up for me even more, sometimes doing considerable damage, and not having a clue what I was going through or doing, and not really caring. That was not helping, but trying to impose their concept of reality onto me, and make me like them.
I look forward to one day kicking the bucket and losing any semblance of personal identity or awareness, because this is wearying, painful, and a royal pain in the fern, and want to just let go of it all. But who would feed the cats, who depend on me?
If someone wants to get insulted over being called ‘pindo’, considering what Americans have done, that’s their problem. If they want it to change, maybe stop slaughtering people?
ModPS, thank you for your care. I have no problem debating Vot Tak and others if I feel they are venturing into racism, it was The Saker’s defence of them that has me worried. I am a massive believer in free speech, it is vital to a real democracy. The only speech we need to curb is when it veers into advocating violence. Our convention against racism is not a neo-liberal attack vector, but essential in preventing war. The first step in preparing a people for war is to denigrate the enemy’s people/race. As soon as we see this we must stop it, or we know where it goes.
The term Pindo on it’s own is not the issue, it is the context it is used in that matters. If you are an Aussie, you know what Wog means. When I was a kid it was a racist term against Greeks and Italians, by the early 90’s they had integrated to the point they called themselves Wogs. Seppo is a similar term, a brotherly label normally again depending on context.
I noticed a more hostile tone creeping in on this thread:
/interesting-myth-busting-honest-documentary-series-about-russia-on-indiegogo/
So my response here needs to be seen as part of a small but growing current of hate creeping into this site. My experience is the culture of the manager filters down to the team. If The Saker has no problem with the racist use of Pindo, then we have a problem and this site will suffer.
I guess I am a little hurt, I love posting here but now I find The Saker is not who I thought he was. I thought we were here to prevent conflict, not to take part in a Russian hybrid war against my own people. Play the ball, not the man as I said. You will not find many here who are more anti-West than I am. Anti-Westerner though only leads to division and war, and I will take no part in it.
Earthrise,
I hope you’ll take a sleep and think again before you want to quit, you get me feel sad when already my latest days have not been the best ones. I don’t like to see good friends just leaving, moreover when I appreciate your thoughts very much and your being here is significant. Of course, not everybody fills our taste, but that does not matter that you don’t have friends here and audience. Please give us a chance to have you with us ! yours, ioan
Doris day – Que Sera, Sera : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcWbZUgymkw
rectification : “but that does not matter that you don’t have friends here and audience.” that doesn’t mean that you don’t have friends and audience here. Apologies for the wrong words.
Sad that a couple of my favourites have gotten into a bun fight.
So I looked up the word ‘pindo’…
“Most ethnic slurs are so obviously derived from the names or stereotypes of another ethnic group that one need devote little time to where they come from, but one, increasingly used by Russians about Americans as tensions between the two nations have grown, has a curious and interesting etymology.
That is pindos, a term of abuse which is ever more often seen in Russian articles about Americans. Its origin is not immediately obvious, although it appears that almost all Russians know that it has a negative connotation. According to Politikus.ru, the Russians owe this linguistic innovation to the Serbs of Kosovo.
The way American soldiers dressed in Yugoslavia, with heavy packs and with bulletproof vests suggested to the Serbs, the site says, that they looked like penguins. And since the word for penguin in Serbian is “pindo,” the Serbs applied it as a term of contempt for the Americans. They referred to the British as “half-penguins,” and that slur also appears to have survived.
Some websites suggest a different origin. They suggest pindo derives from the Spanish pendejos or idiot.”
http://www.interpretermag.com/why-some-russians-call-americans-pindoses-the-etymology-of-an-ethnic-slur/
The Saker’s Moderation policy;
4 ) All racist comments are banned, including of the Nazi racists and Jewish racist type.
Why is Pindo exempt?
okay, I will comment on the Pindo thing even though this is a non-issue.
In Russian the word is “pindos” actually. that is not a plural, by the one. So one guy is a “pindos”. Many guys are “pindosy”.
The truth is that nobody know why the term was coined, but it is well known that it came from the Russian Airborne Forces in Bosnia. When they began interacting with their US colleagues they began calling them “pindosy” but nobody knows why. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Spanish “pendejo” by the way. Nor does it come from penguins, sorry.
So what does the term convey? Derision, I would say. The pindos is a clueless, rather dull guy, what is called an “ugly American” in the USA. It has nothing to do with racism of any kind. It is a moderately derogatory term, just like when I write about “Ukies” (or even “Russkies”). I would compare it to how the South Americans use the word “Yankee” maybe. Or the French “ricain” or the German “amis”.
So no, this is most definitely not a racist issue, not hate speech, and all this huffing and puffing about me allowing anti-American racist speech is utter nonsense.
However,
Some have detected an anti-western tone or attitude in this blog.
ABSOLUTELY!
Guilty as charged your honor :-)
But I also wrote many times of the “other West”.
So if you use your head you will see that the so-called anti-western bias is based on western *policies* and *attitudes* and not any hostility towards the people, the culture or traditions.
But western imperialism, western racism, western capitalism – yes, I do loathe them as deeply immoral, unsustainable and fundamentally evil. And make no mistake here – no continent has produced as many horrors, atrocities, death, destruction, oppression, wars, etc, as the European one did. If you don’t understand, don’t know or don’t agree with that, then tough luck, what can I say?! Facts are facts and they matter to me more than ruffled feathers.
I hope that the above clarifies my position. Those who are deeply offended and want to see me as an enemy, racist or hater are welcome to their opinion and I wish them well on their way out. Those who understand that this is not a black and white thing, but a painful look at a painful history have my gratitude for their courage and honesty.
Last but not least – this blog is for educated adults. I will not have a self-appointed thought police inspect every post or comment for possibly politically incorrect or otherwise offensive speech. In truth, I think that I give a lot of leeway to commentators to use whatever speech they prefer. I only ban outright, truly racist statements. Not just a single word, but a fully racist idea. What that constitutes is clearly indicated in the moderation section which says:
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“This is my definition of “racist”: Racism is, in my opinion, not so much the belief that various human groups are different from each other, say like dog breeds can be different, but the belief that the differences between human groups are larger than within the group. Second, racism is also a belief that the biological characteristics of your group somehow pre-determine your actions/choices/values in life. Third, racism often, but not always, assumes a hierarchy amongst human groups (Germanic Aryans over Slavs or Jews, Jews over Gentiles, etc.). I believe that God created all humans with the same purpose and that we are all “brothers in Adam”, that we all equally share the image (eternal and inherent potential for perfection) of God (as opposed to our likeness to Him, which is our temporary and changing individual condition).
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My blog, my definition. You are welcome to have another one, but not to impose it on me. Use it on your own blog.
One last thing: I am sick and tired of those who threaten to leave unless x, y or z happens. That is infantile and obnoxious: you wanna leave – leave! you wanna stay – stay! But don’t act like the dying fat lady in the opera and make it a 30 minutes scene. If this continues I will consider making it a new moderation rule immediately banning those who threaten to leave :-)
Okay, I hope that this has cleared the air enough, that rational sanity will return now, and that we can go back to discussing important issues and not this nonsense.
Cheers and hugs,
The Saker
Thank you for that clarification. I had to ask what pindo meant on one site, and then immediately forgot, except that it was a slur. Penguins are way too cute to be used as a slur.
American culture has gone off the rails. I left the country in 2010, although I had planned to in 2001. I needed to find a healthier culture in which to raise my children.
I do hope we can agree to disagree. Language matters, for sure. Lets be open to other people´s uses and meanings. I come to this site for civil discourse. I enjoy the perspectives expressed here and we have much to talk about. The hour is getting late.
No, mr.anon of many nobodys, pendejo derives from latin “pend’ as pendulum, depend, etc. means hanging, dangling.
I checked the latest IMF statistics of GDP-PPP showing that only Germany in Europe has bigger economy than Russia while China has 15% bigger economy than USA and 7% bigger than whole EU. I wonder what results we would get if only real economy (excluding virtual “machine” sector of economy) was there. Results would be even more revealing. Any way here they come (millions of Int.dollars ):
1 China 21,269,331
— European Union[n 1] 19,748,883
2 United States 18,562,129
3 India 8,720,758
4 Japan 4,932,102
5 Germany 3,979,664
6 Russia 3,745,081
7 Brazil 3,134,247
8 Indonesia 3,027,746
9 United Kingdom 2,787,748
10 France 2,736,378
Then i checked the situation of Ukraine based on same IMF-studies. This time GDP-PPP per capita. Perhaps i have lived some kind of bubble but the result was shocking. At least these countries have now higher income per capita (based on GDP-PPP) than Ukraine:
El Salvador, Paraguay, Albania, Kosovo, Indonesia, Algeria, Namibia, Peru, Columbia, Sri Lanka, Turkmenistan, Gabon and Chile. Some Sub-Saharan countries were not much bellow GDP-PPP level of Poroshenko’s wonderland. Only Moldova has lower figures in Europe than Ukraine.
Of course we should be very careful with even these figures. In many OECD-countries real economy inside GDP is relatively small part. In USA it was just 28% of GDP or just about $15 700 per capita. In America industrial production value per capita is just $6 000
PaulcraigRoberts posted this humor:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/10/putin-says-if-only-i-could-hack-your-elections-i-could-have-saved-you-from-obama/
very funny and especially with the picture, he sure looks happy with his humour, hopefully he didn’t laugh out loud, it’s supposed to be bad taste to laugh at your own jokes.
Popov: Ukrainian offensive likely around Trump’s inauguration day
Very likely a believable scenario IMO.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/popov-ukrainian-offensive-likely-around.html
Take Care
Kent
Reply to blue:
OK, blue. I have read dozens of comments by you, starting when I first discovered this site. I think it used to have a feature with a picture box in the upper left hand corner to the left of your handle “blue” and in that box was a Siberian Blue cat.
This may be a bit long because it’s one of those “several birds with one stone” deals. Some principles are imbedded that I am addressing to people generally, and some more personally, off this site, as well. Sorry about the length, but endurance training is good training…..
I’ve read your comments for quite a long while because you’ve been around a while, know quite a bit, and don’t mind being honest to the point of offending sensibilities other than your own. Not that you go out of your way to offend, just for the sake of combatitiveness. But, for example, you made it quite clear more than once that you are done with political arguments based on religious beliefs. Time is a scarce commodity and you apparently decided such arguments were one huge waste of time. I’m about 90% of the way with you on that one. Not being religious (I draw a distinction between religion and spirituality…..and I do accept that spirit rules matter……) I nevertheless am interested in the seeds of truth almost all religions contain some of.
It’s truth I am interested in, and in that regard, I initially paid a tiny, tiny bit of attention to Mark Passio when a little box to the right of my internet screen with Michael Rivero “All wars are Banker’s Wars” up had a vertical column of other stuff that included one possibility to click on that had a picture of Mark at a lecturn in New Haven, Conneticut that said “Mark Passio’s Natural Law Seminar”.
https://youtu.be/C1pkJaNbzLU
I almost passed because of the beard, pony tail and T-shirt. But my initial thought was “I know what natural law is. I doubt if this New Age clown knows more about it than I do! Let’s see what this joker has to say.”.
So I clicked it open. First surprise was Tragedy and Hope. I read the book (some sections multiple times, all of it at least twice) and knew something about Richard Groves and his Tragedy and Hope website. What followed was a lot more surprises. Especially the discovery that Passio was not at all “New Age” when he briefly discussed “solipsism, the Biggest Lie” and recommended to the audience in New Haven that they view his “New Age Bullshit” series.
Most people you know are solipsists. Many of the commenters on this site (and they are far, far above the norm……) are solipsists. Most people either are solipsists or have been partial solipsists at one time or another. I guess you could say infants are solipsists, and we have all been there, but many stay there, to one degree or another. That’s the root of the problem of suffering in this world, IMHO.
Well, all I can say is, “Thank you, Mark for teaching me a new word that makes a fundamental reality absolutely crystal clear to me. I’m glad I clicked and learned that my initial prejudices about you were 100% wrong. You have some very valuable things to say!”
And there I left it, for many months of 2014. Then I discovered the Saker, months later, around the time of the Maidan coup in Kiev.
Now, my view of the 911: When my wife called me to the TV set (I had one then…haven’t for the last 8 years) around noon Pacific time Sept 11, 2001, I knew what it was in real time. I am not clairvoyant. I take in a lot of information from a very wide variety of sources, and one of those sources (beginning 1978) had been Lyndon LaRouche who had said publically and repeatedly and in print in January 2001 that he expected a major terror even on US soil that year because of the need for the Deep State to gain more police state control over a financial system getting seriously out of whack. He specifically warned of a “Reichstag Fire” type of event by rogue elements within the US government itself. That was not useless insight, was it??
There are certain social costs to listening to certain such individuals enormously pilloried by the establishment and fools that believe MSM, but I had found 23 years earlier that if I was interested in how the world really works, I would be committing a serious error to disregard that man. I can give multiple, multiple examples, elsewhere, but this comment is not about him, or his organization.
The point is, I knew as soon as Tower 2 was hit, immediatelyand I already suspected, when I found out only Tower 1 was hit exactly what it turned out to be, within seconds of finding out a large plane had hit it.
Subsequently, I discovered, to my dismay, under just how much mind control most people are under, when the majority were steam-rollered like mind-controlled idiots and could not be gotten through to then or many years later. Including in my own family. Not my household, but my relatives and most other acquaintances, with rare exceptions.
Subsequently 911 became my litmus test for not just political sanity, but sanity in general. And, in time, I found out more about 911 on the internet. I found out Webster Tarpley wrote 911 Terror: Made in the USA, and read it, because I knew his material and had atened several lectures of his. Luckily I met The Vineyard of the Saker after Saker had stuff on 911 truth on the opening page of his site, or I would probably have dismissed him as not living in the real world and kept searching elsewhere for more truth in general. Seriously. I was as done with people on that matter as you (blue) are done with religion.
What does it take to wake people up that don’t want to be woken up and are determined NOT to be woken up?
Here’s a great film on that question: “They Live” ……highly recommended by Mark Passio, who is big on allegorical films and allegories of other sorts, as ways of communicating truth:
https://vimeo.com/27092403
At 53:20 the fight scene with his black fellow construction worker…..a ridiculously drawn out slugfest allegory just to get the blockhead TO LISTEN for 1 Minute!!!, As apt an allegory as you will ever find, for the majority of humanity! He has to literally virtually bash the guy’s brains in, before his own friend will put on the dark glasses that allow him to “see” reality.
Anyway, I thought I knew the essentials about 911, and I suppose I did, much, much sooner than most people, but when this site had an interview with Christopher Bollyn, on the Israeli and Mossad angle (massive, simply massive…..) I bought both of Bollyn’s books and learned even more. Like the fact that the individual responsible for weapons technology procurement for the Israeli Defense Forces was also a secretive movie producer who produced a film 23 years before 911 with a plane hitting a skyscraper. Hmmm! Coincidence? No, I don’t think so.
Pattern recognition is the major part of consciousness, and there is a lot more, a hell of a lot more, to the Israeli 911 pattern than what I just mentioned.
OK. So I accumulate more on 911. Passio has a good seminar on Natural Law. I make a note that “New Age Bullshit” may be worth a listen some day, I go back to my routine. But certain things resonate. I will denote Passioisms with a P, the way Mark had put them:
1. P: Virtually all religions have seeds of truth, but most of it has functioned as mind control. And the dark occult have had a big hand in most religions. Mark has proven that with Catholicism, especially. Because the BS in his own Italian family drove him out of Catholicism into the dark occult. Until he discovered they work together! Don’t know much about Russian Orthodoxy at all, but finding out gradually. Since two sons are baptized in it. Don’t want to be like a cousin and his wife who took their young daughters to Chicago, under pressure from her family, to be baptized Catholic. During the ceremony, the father admitted that both he and his wife crossed the index and middle fingers of both of their hands! Their hands were not seen by others. As a sister of mine remarked: “That’s really messed up!”
2. P: Truth need not be some mystical concept. “Truth is simply what IS. Or what has happened long ago or just happened 1/1000 of a second ago. Because both are true, i.e. unalterable. regardless wrong opinion of even a consensus of everyone.
3. P: The only leap of faith required to discover truth is the One Necessary Belief: The Belief That Truth Exists and Can Be Discovered by functioning human, holistic intelligence.
4. P: Most people are solipsists. They will not put in the work to discover truth. They prefer to either say truth doesn’t exist, only opinions and perceptions exist, so why bother looking for it, OR it is whatever they perceive or choose to perceive or not perceive. They do not know or acknowledge Natural Law, except in the most basic survival sense of not stepping off tall buildings. In other words, they settle for whatever “reality” they are comfortable making up.
5. P: Most people are “mini-satanists” and solipsists, with no consciousness of what either one of those categories are.
6. P: Serious elite controller Satanists do not worship a red being that has horns and a tail. They worship the Ego run amuck. They worship themselves, as God. Their class of elites as gods, who DO understand Natural Law. But they resent it. The other comic book version of Hollywood Satanism is for angry, rebellious youth fleeing what they wish to discard lock stock and barrel as stupid, self-contradictory, organized religions, they way Mark fled Catholicism because of the hypocrisy he saw in his own family’s “practice” or non-practice of that religion, which they wish to be free of. From the fat into the “fire”, so to speak.
7. P: Satanism has “sins”, believe it or not. Since the number one tenet is physical, material-world self-preservation, at all costs, the # 1 sin is stupidity, because stupidity is fatal to physical survival. #2 sin is solipsism, because solipsism ignores Natural Law. Satanists resent Natural Law but are not so stupid as to think it can be ignored. They study it and know it as a way of gaining a power differential over others, who they encourage to give up any idea of Natural Law truth being discoverable, and so become solipsists, so that the evil of their controllers is never effectively opposed.
Passio does not ”throw the baby out with the bath water”. Blue may not like his talk on epi-genetics and epi-eugenics I posted a couple of days ago, but the guy does have some awfully good rants. Try this one on “Fake-Ass Christians”:
https://youtu.be/dWXGo7Qkr2w I’m mostly in agreement, They’re worse than useless.
And there is a really good one on the Second Amendment. I’ll find it when the time comes. Passio owns the AK-47 and a bunch of smaller firearms. Doesn’t like the US Army M-16 much. Not trouble –free and rugged enough. He says he thinks consciousness is so low that this pathetically unconscious, mind-enslaved USA will come to civil war. That he teaches to try to head that off, but doesn’t think people are waking up fast enough to head it off. So far.
Anyway, there is a quite bit on another teacher that does a ton of work for free, who is by no means a perfect being, and bluntly admits it, saying that the most important thought to have the most often during your life is the thought “I was wrong!” , as the path to truth is paved with discoveries of what one proves to one’s self are NOT true.
That may not resonate with you, but it does with me. It’s not a good day, as far as I am concerned, unless I discover something new that I did not know before. And the best discoveries are of where I was wrong, and why I was wrong. So that such baggage can be discarded. But learned from, and not forgotten.
Alright, so why did I ask you about 911?
Here’s why: I thought I knew plenty about the subject after reading four books and plenty of internet articles and analysis. What I could not understand was why it was so difficult to impart what I did know to anyone else. And here I have to disagree vehemently with earthrise: In order to stop war, every person of good will has to develop the confidence that they could impart some important information to literally thousands of people! We gotta be like the Breitbart mascot, the honey badger,
Crazy Nasty-Ass Honey Badger Don’t Give a Bleep: https://youtu.be/kb6bWsa_LdQ
and Not Give A Sh*t whether they are “ready to hear it” or not. Like the protagonist of They Live, smack ‘em harder until they put the goddamned glasses on!
I mean, come on, mate! What are we flapping our lips for? To hear the sound of our own voice? Thousands of people may read your comment! (Which I want to beat to a pulp, BTW, but I don’t want to digress too far. Or gang up on you with vt and S. Unfair fight! )
Anyway, so I’m going along spending a lot of my off-hours here throughout 2015 remembering a little about that Natural Law Seminar, in the back of my mind thinking about wanting to check out New Age Bullshit, but never get around to it all year. Too much happening with Ukraine, Syria, etc.
Finally I do get around to New Age Bullshit and it reveals a bunch of deceptions that I was not prone to, but a lot of people I know are prone to. And the guy keeps suggesting that his material is a tapestry, there are 196 podcasts free on his website, Start the journey, in order, early podcasts are prerequisite material for later ones, etc. 196??? Forget it. Oh, what’s this? Passio on 911? 5 hours? Well, if this is nonsense, I can move on, but remember what value I did get out of the New Haven Natural Law thing. Let’s roll!
Well needless to say, Passio had something fundamnetal to say on 911 that was totally unique and that I have been hammering on (off and on….I get tired….) ever since. And it may be THE most significant thing ANYONE has had to say on 911. EVER!!! That’s how it resonated with me, and I will explain why. It’s why I completed all 196 What On Earth Is Happening podcasts from March 2016 through November 2016. About 1 day, 2 hrs, average. Learned a ton.
I mean this Collateral Damage Part 1 and Part 2 stuff is HUGE from the standpoint of the dirty imperialist criminals exoteric criminal acts (and I am excited about these leads, this discovery, thanks to Katherine), but remember:
Spirit RULES the material world of Earth, Air, Water and Fire. Therefore, the esoteric decoding of 911 which Passio matter of factly and drily decodes is more fundamental, ultimately, has more far reaching SPIRITUAL implications for all aspects of this fight than all the rest of the material world details, put together!!!IMHO.
And when I got THAT, it was like a bolt of lightning animating all the other sensory facts and memories of accumulated political knowledge, knowledge of history etc, going back decades, all the way to my childhood overseas in the Middle East and South America.
So, at first, I admit, I was a bit incoherent in the attempt to sahre the discovery. I GOT IT. Surely others might??? Ummmm. Maybe not in the same thermonuclear explosion sort of “all at once” nano-second way I got it. Hmmmm. Why Not?
First effort, Feb 26, 2016 a few days after getting the point of the decoding, in this:
https://youtu.be/SK9xu8tOLpA
…..was a bit of a right brain dance ala Dennis Leary, “I Miss Leary”, some Dylan moodiness, and then into the numbers:
/is-there-a-crack-in-the-dam-holding-back-the-truth-on-syria/#comment-213733
There I was Brother Anon because I had recently teased Dennis about one of his comments and he inquired ” Are you Brother Anon or Sister Anon?”
Later I decided to be Bro 93 until a lot more people admitted to getting the point of the damned ritual. And the point IS that people finally will! Or CAN. And I mean the most stubborn relatives, sisters, etc who refused to look at or understand what I had been trying to get them to face for 15 years!
Like I opened the presentation of this (shortest…..8 minute) Passio exposition of the decoding
https://youtu.be/HT04D3Lc1t8
with one family member, by literally saying: “I am more sure of this than I am of the fact that you are my sister.”
That did get her attention. And she did allow the proof of the occulted sorcery, and the decoding of it, to proceed without further protests of the sort that were thrown up every single time anything on this front was attempted in the past 15 years.
(Now, there is no possible way in hell that these occult sorcerers who run all these political clowns and criminals like Obama, Dubya, Hitlery, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc did not make a ritualistic point of arranging, through the board rooms of United Airlines and American Airlines for “the numbers” of the flights that day to be 11, 93, 175 and 77. The principle of getting away with it in broad daylight and exulting over the stupidity of the dupes is apparently a very necessary and empowering feature of occult sorcery.
I am now dead sure that of the fact the Empire is run by dark occult bunch of self-loathing psychopaths (like Podestas. But they are minor minions…..) and that THAT fact, if muddy or not comprehended is the biggest blind side of everyone, 911 investigators and truthers included, if they do not grasp this ritualistic, dark spiritual aspect of the event, to date. .
So, to conclude, I didn’t do the decoding. This guy I am telling you you would be foolish to blow off, Mark Passio decoded it. I’m just a guy that “got it” very thoroughly and very deeply, like a bolt of lightning, as soon as he got to the addition of 11 and 175 and divided by 2 = 93. The implications reached evey circuit in my brain virtually instantly.
Now, I ask you, blue, would it be useful to be attuned to these aspects of the enemy, in order to cut a few hours or days or weeks or months or YEARS off what we are up against, in the case of 911 and subsequent Empire master moves????
I maintain that it would be very, very, very useful.
And I maintain that the way to advance in consciousness is to strive for the goal of balance between rigid skepticism on the one hand and naïve acceptance of whatever comes down the pike, on the other hand, and to consider inputs from a wide, eclectic, variety of sources and not be hasty to discard anything, especially anything that might be fundamental and affect virtually everything else, but to consider many things for as extended a period of time as the importance of its truth or falsity merits, before deciding to keep or discard.
What makes people discard too soon, or keep what is nonsense? Generally, whatever fits or doesn’t fit (more often) their egoic profile. The Ego is the biggest barrier to Truth. Like I maintained recently, it is needed for blocking a punch to your head and for wiping your butt, because past toilet training age no one else will perform those necessary survival tasks for you. But as a guide to the truth? It’s actually worse than useless. It’s a barrier.
Recognizing error and speaking, “I was wrong.” are the best habits to not stray very far from the truth. That’s courage. That’s will to ascend. That’s Love. That’s 93, numerologically. That’s what was immolated ritualistically 9/11/2001. Ignore that fact and your analysis of 911 has a lot missing.
What bothers me is that consciousness is so low that lot’s of decent leaders, e.g.Trump and his best people either don’t get it yet, or they don’t think they can speak it yet and dance all around the full extent of the issue (as does almost everyone….for example just read Road to Ruin by Jim Rickards over the holidays…..same problem….capitulation to the myth, the occult mind control……WTF!!! Rip down the curtain and expose the Wizard as a fake!!!………tired of the ignorance or the pretensions of ignorance to avoid speaking the truth!) because the level of consciousness of the population is so abysmally low. That is the most serious strategic problem of all, IMHO.
So no, I do not hate Christmas. I gave The Matrix 1-3, Decoded to son, 15 and Everything I Ever Needed to Know in Life I Learned From Watching The Wizard of OZ to other son, 10. Both occulted pieces of “art”. Both decoded by Passio.
An eclectic variety of sources. He knows a ton more than I do in a variety of areas…… However I think he’s wrong on Hamilton and music, but that I am lucky to have far, far more time and opportunity to gain insight into the former than he has had the time or opportunity to delve into for so far. Including the fact that a major influence on Hamilton’s development was Alexander Pope, who Passio himself quotes, ironically:
“Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring”.
A Little Learning (by Alexander Pope)
A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.
Fired at first sight with what the Muse imparts,
In fearless youth we tempt the heights of Arts ;
While from the bounded level of our mind
Short views we take, nor see the lengths behind,
But, more advanced, behold with strange surprise
New distant scenes of endless science rise !
So pleased at first the towering Alps we try,
Mount o’er the vales, and seem to tread the sky ;
The eternal snows appear already past,
And the first clouds and mountains seem the last ;
But those attained, we tremble to survey
The growing labours of the lengthened way ;
The increasing prospect tires our wandering eyes,
Hills peep o’er hills, and Alps on Alps arise !
Don’t tire. Keep going. Break through. Rout the Empire. No resting on political laurels until these damned sorcerers can’t even control people like the Podestas and Hillary Clinton.
Thank you.
That, made my day, and many more to come.
Take Care
Kent
This occult stuff Pasio talks about is just another kind of religion. I studies this sort of thing — I guess some 30 or 40 years ago — and I put it aside along with other religions. It’s not a very useful sort of narrative, really, and can be applied about any way one wants chooses, according to what they believe or want.
You know, many moons ago, when I was quite young, a Jehova’s Witness came around to the door and tried to convince my grandmother of his stuff, and he said he used to be a Nazi but his new religion saved him. What he didn’t, and would probably never, understand is that he was doing the same thing, like someone who use to pig out at McDonalds and then went next door and pigged out at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Some years later, after years of trying to break through, I was in serious (physical and financial level) survival difficulty and played around with ‘reverse speech’ on the computer, and heard all kinds of things, and found that by changing the speed of the recordings I heard all sort of different messages, and there were some significant changes in my physical state as well. In the end I knew it was my own subconscious I ‘heard’, and did some work to clear out a massive amount of BS, beliefs, neurotic nonsense, and like that, and then started practicing mindfulness meditation for a time, which cleared out more. It was something like a ‘psychotic break’ for a couple of months, but I was able to use it heal myself and access the insanity and indoctrination I had swallowed when I was a kid growing up in the insane world (including the gaslighting and nonsense from school psychiatrists who were crazier than I ever was). Do it yourself shamanism, so to speak. Every now and then it’s good to rearrange your psyche — defrag it and reorder the parts, and ‘shift some bits’ so everything can be reinterpreted in new ways, and so you have control over the narratives and paradigms you use.
That’s the key to ‘enlightenment’: not picking some other story, but understanding that you, on some level, are writing the story (or believing someone else’s story), and whatever objective truth might exist you don’t have direct access to because the brain and perceptual systems are too limited. At best you can get only a few glimpses and try to fit them into a coherent model. The quarks don’t care any more than the bits in a computer care if it is logic high or logic low at the moment, and anything you try to reach beyond that physical level usually turns into just another narrative and belief system, with bugs and malware, if you are not very careful about it.
‘Dogs don’t know it’s not bacon.’
Actual magick (or sorcery) is inexplicable, mostly inaccessible, largely unpredictable, and operates on a completely different level from cognition or beliefs. It’s — something like — no more, or less, occult than consciously slowing your heartbeat or lowering your blood pressure, which can be done with practice but you don’t really know how you do it. You have intent and it happens — maybe, after you practice. It’s like what Castenada’s books talks about — the tonal and the nagual (even though those books are also just another narrative, albeit a useful one if not taken too seriously).
Pasio is way too emotional and attached to handle this stuff, and has filled his head and psyche with nonsense.
Why debate something when you dont know.
Castaneda is just an writer, what He wrote is more important than Him as an person, witch I found to be pathetic, but the writing have narratives I know are true, but this book is the only one so far I know that actually describes the road you have to take to get there.
But here it comes, I have read a lot, ancient texts from Egypt to Tibetans, to Kalevala and some few others Incl some Russians witch you dont know about I assume.
I have even read the babbling nonsense the so called esoteric dope heads like A. Crowley have written and I know that He dont know, intellectualize some episodes from tripping dont impress me, and I knew they are just scoundrels feeding upon people that is searching.
Waist of time simply.
Even the original teachings of Yeshua is in line with CC books.
But I ges this goes abitt over your heads, I dont mean to be cruel or ridicule anyone, just stating the truth.
This is my advice, for free, and It took me an full decade before I made an brake thru regarding Lucid dreaming, it took me another full decade before I was shown, I know someone pushed me, or at lest allowed me to cross to the other side, witch isnt LD but more like our own, but physically like the LD stage, where you are only energy, thats why you dont see your self in dreams, and so on.
And what I found is that there is only one book that describes what I know, since I have done that, not using the same tech but the effect is there, and how to know what, to educate your self, I recommend one book, and this one is infact real, it may be the reason for the weird compagne against CC, and where nobody infact debates what He wrote, other than name calling etc. etc.
The book is The art of Dreaming, the single most important book I have ever read.
And just to give you an hint, if you read it, I have for an decade ago, reached the 4 gate.
Thats where I stopped, not of fear, but I may not (want to) come back, and my family was my reason to not go any further.
Once you know, everything changes.
I can help you, even tell you what to do, but I am lost my self this days, like walking in an empty desert, the cold hard rage is dead to, and now, only an road to walk to the day I die.
I am dying my self inside, mentally and physically.
peace
Wow, blue!
A guy is initially thrown off by the shock of 911, within 2 months has sensed the hand of the dark occult in designing the entire ritual, exposes that in great detail, way beyond just “the numbers” I briefly presented (the rest is all there, if one doesn’t blow it all off, prematurely) and blue blows the guy off as “too emotional”.
When not on a good, rare rant, Mark Passio is actually calm beyond belief, BTW. Handling idiot live show call-ins, for example. So, another wrong first impression.
But now, inspired by Kent’s art work, I’m dropping poetry and going with graphics in an attempt to free blue from self-imposed mental limits.
Cat lovers of the world unite! Free blue! The adorable Siberian with blue eyes is stuck in a bottle!
Help!:
http:rightbrainnews.com/top-12-cats-that-are-stuck-please-help/5/
See # 4 Cat Stuck in Bottle
Oh, also, blue, on the sex psychosis in the West. Passio is correct. It is “epi-eugenics”: the elites of a garbage can brainwashing the human herd into culling itself. The problem is you are soft on population control, yourself. Which is probably why, when you got interested in The Club of Rome a couple of years ago, even after I pointed out that it is a NATO sponsored organization, your enthusiasm for it was undampened.
Just trying to help. But probably can’t in cases where people discard hard proof (and NOTHING is harder than the 911 numbers, blue) too hastily, and are too emotional to consider something that goes against the grain of earlier beliefs or prejudices for at least a few hours of examination, before rejecting it.
I hope the bottle-extraction rescue succeeds!
I’m not where this is coming from.
Having listened to Passio, I can simply say he is too emotional — too wrapped up in his overcomplicated occult stuff. (How many angels on a pin sort of stuff).
He also goes on at great length while saying very little and cutting to the chase except for just assertions of things I don’t see — I could hardly say that taking down the towers was some sort of magickal working to erect a phallus symbol.
No — I’m not in a bottle. I tossed out bottles and complex occult and religious systems and symbolism decades ago.
I don’t remember what the Club of Rome was about.
Huineng tearing sutras to shreds. Liang-k’ai,
http://www.dharmanet.org/coursesM/zafm/plate24.htm
(BTW, Oscaretta was not a Siberian — just a grey cat, but she was the head cat. I did the drawing with hand ground casein on water color paper. It’s loses a fair bit in the scanned version)
http://en.gravatar.com/bluepilgrim1)
Well, I obviously need some computer graphics coaching from Kent.
Sorry for the mistake, but this cat is too precious to be left in this predicament:
http://rightbrainnews.com/top-12-cats-that-are-stuck-please-help/5/
Somehow, the 2 forward slashes after the colon escaped before the siberian blue got out of the bottle.
Help!
Blue, you seemed to me always a very balanced commenter since all what you say makes always a lot of common sense, this is why I felt I should do all what I could to keep you commenting, since one of the best contributors in this blog, at least for the time I have been reading here, last three years, and so, worth the effort I made past New Year´s Eve along with the consequences of such effort ( it was me, on duty that night, I think you will understand ).
At that time I had not even a clue that you were of leftist thinking, but, of course, I was thinking on the good for the blog, at a time I was feeling this was a community of people for truth, peace, and well being of most of humanity.
Since you have come back it has been as a breath of fresh air in the marasm of madness this blog has become is the last months, but, beware, since you are starting calling the attention of the same people who almost took me out of here. First they will be very courteous and even friendly, to then try to provoke you in any way, when this moment came, you will be left without option to answer, as repeatedly has happened to me and many.
So sorry that you have to live there where you feel so badly accompanied, you are completely right in your analysis of the US society, this is why I have no hopes with The Donald, because that is an illness too much spreaded and rooted there, a civilizational paradigm based on “exceptionalism”, “egotism”, “economic and power ambition”, “hatred” and “racism”, all the way, till they start destroying each other, as it seems to br the unavoidable outcome.
If I could, I would adopt you, but, anyway, I do not discard the possibility of meeting you one day.
You are such a charming elder, you are much more younger that most here ( of any age ), more, I would say you are the richest here and the richest there, more even than their Donald, because you are free of spirit, smile and have hope in the future, we are right, they are wrong, wi will prevail, definitively.
A big hug and a kiss in each cheek, as is the custom here.
I wish you health and strenght, keep you safe and alive, please, people like you is needed in the next council of elders to come, at least, in Europe.
Thank you.
Leftist is not complicated, nor most of what people say of it. Simply, it is democratic and for human rights for everyone, economically and politically, and is extremely logical, and moral. It is anarchic in that no one should be able to boss around or exploit other people, which leaves government by consensus, and not simple majority which can oppress a minority — individual human rights must always be accounted for. The application can be difficult and complex because the rights of people can conflict with each other, but the principles and intent need to be kept in mind and resolved in just ways as fa as possible.
It’s not complicated, but the predators, ego-driven, and sociopaths hate it because it gets in their way, and they want to be in charge and run everything, and be accepted as ‘better’ than others, not for any real accomplishment or talent but as a matter of ‘being exceptional, or ‘chosen’ or ‘saved’ or whatever.
Trump is just a branch to hang on to try to stop falling all the way down the cliff into the abyss, but no one can stay there and live their lives hanging on to such a branch, of course One either climbs back up or eventually tires and falls or the branch breaks.
The purpose of a life buoy is to get out of the deep water, if you prefer that analogy. No, do not sink the buoy, but don’t stop struggling to get to shore, or beating off the sharks either, or think the buoy is a houseboat.
Trump seems to be honestly full of prunes — seems to believe the stuff he says and not understand that the system he made his money on is toxic and unsustainable. He’s better than the true psychopaths like Clinton or McCaine, but is not the way out.
Hi Bro
I appreciate your enthusiasm. I have read these posts (and the ones in cafes past) and the watched the links. Certainly the numbers are interesting and there are various encoded messages indicating occult powers are at work behind the scenes. I’m just not sure where the trail really leads.
Am I understanding that you feel this is a kind of proof that will enlighten people as to the working of dark brotherhoods behind world events?
k
The ‘Russian hacking’ meme has failed so another tactic is being trotted out. Even ‘Putin hater’ Masha Gessen poo pooed the intelligence report.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/russian-hackers-masha-gessen-and.html
Just heard on our reliable and truthful ABC radio that:
‘Russia has a dirt file on Trump and has had him under eyes for some time… the file was given to A who gave it B who gave it to C who gave it to … drum roll please ….. Senator John MCain… ‘
Waaaa.. Then read just up on Sputnik
https://sputniknews.com/us/201701111049459803-fbi-investigates-trump-golden-showers/
Oh no! First they issue threats to move to Canada, and now this?
http://yournewswire.com/hollywood-strike-trump-resign/
From the article:
“Hollywood “is, simply put, the base of the entire modern American culture. It is the foundation of the country, so to speak, the glue that’s holding it together.”
Maduro Says Venezuelan National Assembly Attempted Coup
https://sputniknews.com/latam/201701111049458509-maduro-venezuela-coup/
“President Nicolas Maduro said the opposition-led National Assembly of Venezuela attempted a coup by taking the decision on declaring him abandoned his post and called for the public authorities not to allow impunity for breaching the Constitution.
“As President I ask the public authorities not to let the violations of the Constitution and disrespect for the legal order go unpunished. Yesterday [on Monday] the National Assembly adopted a coup manifesto,” Maduro said Tuesday, as quoted by El Universal newspaper.”
Holy shit this is getting crazy! I don’t see any way Trump is going to be allowed to get to the White House.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html
wowee
but…
zero hedge debunks this???Not had time to go through it……
check out
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax
link via russia insider…………so much **** seems to “originate’ from the British these days………….
WikiLeaks Updates
9 hrs ·
35 page PDF published by Buzzfeed on Trump is not an intelligence report. Style, facts & dates show no credibility.
https://www.documentcloud.org/…/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-…
JJ, when I click on your wikileaks link I get “Not Found”.
Hi Bro
sorry about that…..hhhmmm….t’was a Wikileaks Update micropage on facebook that had been reposted by sputnik on facebook.
I went back to this wikileaks post on facebookand link works from there—but as it is just the “report” with yellow highlights I am sure this is available elsewhere’s, hope that is ok for you , cheers.
“A Boring Week Before the Titanic Sinks?”
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2017/01/1_8.html
Full moon in Cancer gives Uranus ( for a change ) a quick kick suppressing a giggle of her own as she watches structure tumble and then moves on to play in Leo–maybe to tickle his fancy a bit. It is time, she murmmers, it is TIME !
Venus holds Mars hand in Pisces ( big sister to little brother) as they present a united face to a stern father. Pluto hands her the bread crumbs to lead them out of the toxic woods and Saturn is relieved ( her really did not want to eat them or see them eaten).
https://sputniknews.com/us/201701111049496972-obama-maybe-denied-club-membership/
[…]
Obama has expressed interest in joining the Woodmont Country Club in Rockville, Maryland, whose membership is primarily Jewish and Republican. Some club members reportedly seek to deny him admission, after he did not block a recent vote by the United Nations to end Israeli settlements in Palestine.
[…]
The latest rumor is that they will let him in but he won’t be allowed to have any balls.
For Earthrise and ioan
We live between the leaves
Where the breezes play
Between the light and shadow
Between the night and day
The outlines of our lives
Between the nodes of years
Between twelve circles of the sun
Between our hopes and fears
We live between the lines
Of all that we forgot
O all that we forgive
Of all we are, and all we’re not
By the light of knowing
Our seeing is half blinded
To the world in between
Where one is undivided.
Between the ocean
And the shore
The dancer dances
For evermore.
k
kinterra, you are so kind and you have a warm heart. Thanks for your wonderful poem which means a lot for me.
Very nice, thank you.
Do you sing, and/or play any instrument?
Take Care
Kent
Lovely words Earth Sister.
“Ships that pass in the night, and speak each other in passing.
Only a signal shown and a distant voice in the darkness.
So on the ocean of life we pass and speak one another.
Only a look and a voice, then darkness again and a silence.”
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.
But what of the small changes, the ripple effects extending outwards? Both ships’ courses are changed slightly, and over the distance of a life this can be a major shift. If we are the sum of our experiences, then we have become part of each other. I’ll smile as I think of you all.
Companeros hasta el final
This cafe is touchy this week –a definite lack of touchy-feely …maybe we all feel the absence of our love-bug bower fellow?
re: Bro 93 ( who can take a bit of joshing?)
Gadflying about, the barb of solipsism sinks
striking those flinching who jump to react
But really who cares what he says or thinks
when it comes to your stream, your auto-didact ?
This forum adds buzz to the hum of humanity
Listen to the overtones then undertones so sweet
There’s no need to froth acting out calamities
Just know that your voice forms this group feat
Created to lift up* humanity’s bleak insanities
( my religious friends are fond of “lifting up” situations that bother them….I think it has something to do with their idea that the Deity is more “up” than “down” and more “in” than “out”…Satan, however, is definitely more “behind” than “in front” although “under” Micha-el’s foot is the best place to have him) …uh-oh. Now I probably will have someone or another swarming “out”. teasing ya-all.
“This cafe is touchy this week –a definite lack of touchy-feely …maybe we all feel the absence of our love-bug bower fellow?”
Or, maybe it is because we all have our private holy cows to defend, who knows??
Enjoy: http://fotovision.no/GLP1/HolyCow.jpg
Take Care
Kent
I’m trying to be careful with the “all is fake” stuff. But this one seemed weird from the beginning…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CjQnmcLVPU&list=PLBZ72jaV73-zz2ZIiQtBSoDHSbAefAHCJ
And yes, if above assessment is correct, Russia is in the Game. Or at least pretending to play according to the rules of the Game.
Being always ready to get enlightened, pls. feel free to try to reshuffle my temporary understanding… ;)
Having helped to carry my fathers coffin at his burial, I can see what the guy is attempting to get it……….
I have just read the book Controversy of zion by Douglas Reed. I’m not sure if the recommendation came from this blog but I’m guessing it did.
Whoever recommended it, many thanks. What a story!
Written from 1953-1956 by a famous, though blacklisted, journalist of the era it tells the tale of the Jewish people and the influence this sect has had on our common history.
The warnings he sounds, amongst other more famous voices, have not been heeded.
The goals of zionism are all the nearer, all the clearer and even more unstoppable than in 1956 (i.e. the destruction of Nation states, the primacy of Israel and the jews and dominion over all mankind, achieved by revolution from below and corruption above setting classes against each other and nations against each other to their destructive conclusion).
He refers a number of times to The Protocols of Zion and their plans for the need of a 3rd world war. This wouldn’t trouble me except for the accuracy of its other proscriptions.
The understanding of nuclear power and mutually assured destruction was absent in 1905 when the protocols were written. Presumably this has saved us thus far from ww3.
I would like to know more about the Zionist influence in Russia after ww2 and the creation of Israel.
Couldn’t resist, sorry, but there is certainly something in the air 24/7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA
Take Care
Kent
(this is a repost from a comment I posted above, I am reposting it again just to make sure you all see it – The Saker)
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okay, I will comment on the Pindo thing even though this is a non-issue.
In Russian the word is “pindos” actually. that is not a plural, by the one. So one guy is a “pindos”. Many guys are “pindosy”.
The truth is that nobody know why the term was coined, but it is well known that it came from the Russian Airborne Forces in Bosnia. When they began interacting with their US colleagues they began calling them “pindosy” but nobody knows why. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Spanish “pendejo” by the way. Nor does it come from penguins, sorry.
So what does the term convey? Derision, I would say. The pindos is a clueless, rather dull guy, what is called an “ugly American” in the USA. It has nothing to do with racism of any kind. It is a moderately derogatory term, just like when I write about “Ukies” (or even “Russkies”). I would compare it to how the South Americans use the word “Yankee” maybe. Or the French “ricain” or the German “amis”.
So no, this is most definitely not a racist issue, not hate speech, and all this huffing and puffing about me allowing anti-American racist speech is utter nonsense.
However,
Some have detected an anti-western tone or attitude in this blog.
ABSOLUTELY!
Guilty as charged your honor :-)
But I also wrote many times of the “other West”.
So if you use your head you will see that the so-called anti-western bias is based on western *policies* and *attitudes* and not any hostility towards the people, the culture or traditions.
But western imperialism, western racism, western capitalism – yes, I do loathe them as deeply immoral, unsustainable and fundamentally evil. And make no mistake here – no continent has produced as many horrors, atrocities, death, destruction, oppression, wars, etc, as the European one did. If you don’t understand, don’t know or don’t agree with that, then tough luck, what can I say?! Facts are facts and they matter to me more than ruffled feathers.
I hope that the above clarifies my position. Those who are deeply offended and want to see me as an enemy, racist or hater are welcome to their opinion and I wish them well on their way out. Those who understand that this is not a black and white thing, but a painful look at a painful history have my gratitude for their courage and honesty.
Last but not least – this blog is for educated adults. I will not have a self-appointed thought police inspect every post or comment for possibly politically incorrect or otherwise offensive speech. In truth, I think that I give a lot of leeway to commentators to use whatever speech they prefer. I only ban outright, truly racist statements. Not just a single word, but a fully racist idea. What that constitutes is clearly indicated in the moderation section which says:
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“This is my definition of “racist”: Racism is, in my opinion, not so much the belief that various human groups are different from each other, say like dog breeds can be different, but the belief that the differences between human groups are larger than within the group. Second, racism is also a belief that the biological characteristics of your group somehow pre-determine your actions/choices/values in life. Third, racism often, but not always, assumes a hierarchy amongst human groups (Germanic Aryans over Slavs or Jews, Jews over Gentiles, etc.). I believe that God created all humans with the same purpose and that we are all “brothers in Adam”, that we all equally share the image (eternal and inherent potential for perfection) of God (as opposed to our likeness to Him, which is our temporary and changing individual condition).
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My blog, my definition. You are welcome to have another one, but not to impose it on me. Use it on your own blog.
One last thing: I am sick and tired of those who threaten to leave unless x, y or z happens. That is infantile and obnoxious: you wanna leave – leave! you wanna stay – stay! But don’t act like the dying fat lady in the opera and make it a 30 minutes scene. If this continues I will consider making it a new moderation rule immediately banning those who threaten to leave :-)
Okay, I hope that this has cleared the air enough, that rational sanity will return now, and that we can go back to discussing important issues and not this nonsense.
Cheers and hugs,
The Saker
Funny, in my last weekly I deleted three lines concerning the “pindo”
My idea was connected with an astonishment, a repeted astonishment
a happy astonishment about V.V. absolute politeness concerning the respect
for other civilisations included the American, included for those
who haven’t still got, what it’s at, but might be the next. And this room I feel
Trump is sensing I remembered that the low respect, compared with Putin
the president fas, “respect” Ihopefully feel is a focal point to him.
This should make us sensible for respect and selfrespect – a point wher
we could meet the natives who in my opinion keep the spirit of the continent
like the native do in Russia and China where the minorities still exist on their
grounds
I’m seeing V.V. as a great educator on the planet.
My vision is that with God’s help The Donald will keep on following the common root with the Great Russian President.
I learned by him, a President speaks polite and by heart. We all should have presidents to learn from.
Pindo where Pindo is , but in America is not, in my vision
And I find the Donald a polite speaker even to pindos like this one fom CNN
On cats, or about cats.
Since this would be off topic on the other thread where I recently posted a cat for Blue, and just to get it over with so to speak (so that I would know that I actually did post it on this forum/blog), I was at some point on another forum, and on the intenett as a whole, a bit annoyed/irritated of the numerous depictions of Vladimir Putin, riding on this that or other animal or bird in extremely bad resolution, and crappy Photoshop work, that I decided to make a few of my own.
Here.
http://fotovision.no/GLP1/PutinMammoth.jpg
http://fotovision.no/GLP1/PutinOnSiberianTiger.jpg
http://fotovision.no/GLP1/Putin_TigerNight2.jpg
I stopped there.
Take care
Kent