2017/01/23 03:00:02
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The Chinese aircraft carrier in perspective
I read two recent articles belittling the Chinese aircraft carrier, one by comparing it to the US Nimitz class fleet of carriers and the other by discussing how it would be used (in missions that the writer thinks it will be used, more on that down below)
The US fleet of aircraft carriers are in a league of their own, just like the US military is in a league of its own and the US economy and of course the US strategic demands and missions (their commands cover the whole Globe!), so comparing anyone with them is pointless.
I will try to briefly to compare the Chinese aircraft carrier with the all other carriers of the world (according to this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_in_service). The criteria I will use: Ship size, airwing size and quality, battlegroup and projection/sustainment ability.
CHINA: The Liaoning is a 55k tonnes based on the Kuzntetsov-class without the big missiles and with a modern refurbishment, it has a ski-jump and no catapults. The airwing consists of 24x J-15’s Chinese made jets based on the Su-27 flanker design and an assortment of defensive helicopters, a single air regiment have qualified for carrier operation. Battlegroup is excellent with 3x type 052 anti-air destroyers, 2x type 054 anti-ship frigates and a type 056 anti-sub corvette (also some subs might be part of the battlegroup too). The Chinese deployed a 23k tonnes support ship with the carrier on the latest live-fire exercise, but they are deploying 45k tonnes support ships to keep their battlegroup going when on longer voyages. A second carrier is under-construction.
Australia: two 27.5k tonnes helicopter carriers with ski-jumps, no fixed-wing planes. No real capability of forming an independent battlegroup or projecting power beyond it’s regional waters.
Brazil: A single 80 years old 33k tonnes second-hand French carrier with a catapult. The airwing consists of 22x A-4 Skyhawks (production stopped 38 years ago!). No real battlegroup or projection capability.
Egypt: Two Mistral helicopter carriers, 21k tonnes, bought for Egypt by Saudi Arabia (!!). No helicopters currently, according to press reports they will order Kamov Russian helicopters. No battlegroup or projection capability. Only possible mission for these ships is to secure the two islands, Tiran and Sanafir, in the Red Sea from….Saudi claims!!
France: Single nuclear-powered 42k tonnes with a catapult. Airwing consists of Rafale M navel version of the Rafale, modern and very capable. France would have to send every surface combatant in its navy to form a single battlegroup, no real capability of sustainment at sea. Attack on Libya across the sea was sustained & supported by the US; while deployment against ISIS is with a US battlegroup (i.e. no real independent capability to function far from shores). Also 3x Mistral-class 21k tonnes helicopter carriers, no fixed-wing crafts.
India: A single 45k tonnes Kiev-class carrier with a ski-jump, airwing consists of 26x MiG-29K plus 10 helicopters; India has had a history of second-hand British carriers, so it has operational experience that China might lack. India has on paper the ability to form a battlegroup but no real sustained capacity or projection abilities. India is currently building a new 40k Indian-design carrier.
Italy: 2 carriers, one 14k tonnes and the other 27k tonnes, planes are Harrier jump-jets, plans to use F-35B’s on the 27k carrier. Like France no real battlegroup capability and when attacking Libya, just across the sea to its south, help from the US was needed.
Japan: A single 27k and 2x 19k tonnes helicopter carriers, might carry American F-35B’s in a pinch, but currently only carry helicopters. Japan has excellent destroyers and frigates. Can project power, but lacks any offensive planes. Planning a second 27k carrier.
Russia: A single 55k tonnes with ski-jump, going into a major refit and will be out of action for years. Airwing consists of Su-33’s and MiG-29K, real danger of losing experience while the only carrier is in refit. Battlegroup consist of single anti-air cruiser instead of destroyers and smaller ships. Sustainment is possible with the recent deployment from the Arctic to the Med and back.
South Korea: A single 19k tonnes helicopter carrier, for defensive operations only (currently building a second one).
Spain: A single 26k tonnes carrier with ski-jump, flying Harriers with plans to operate F-35B’s. As the case with France & Italy there is no real projection capability.
Thailand: a single 11.5k tonnes carrier, Harriers were retired 10 years ago and now only helicopters are used. Thai navy has no destroyers, but frigates & corvettes can escort; no real projection capability or need. Without the money to operate it, the ship spends most of its time in harbour.
UK: a single 21.5k tonnes operational helicopter carrier and 2x 70k tonnes carriers under construction. The QEII-class carriers will carry 24x F-35B’s on board + helicopters. Battlegroup consists of Daring-class Aegis destroyer and planned type 26 frigates. On paper it looks first-class, real product might disappoint. The operational 21.5k carrier will be scrapped in 2018 opening a gap of few years until the QEII is operational in the early 2020’s.
So there you go, Compared to the world’s (non-US) carriers the Chinese Liaoning actually looks good. The French carrier has better propulsion (nuclear) and better planes, there ability to provide a battlegroup is limited, most deployment seems in conjecture or within US battlegroups; with only carrier their ability to respond to contingencies is also limited by ship’s availability.
Russia’s carrier (after the refit) will be comparable with better planes (MiG-29K) but by that time China will have two operational carriers and 5 years of carrier air experience. Russia’s lack of destroyers is a weakness in its battlegroup.
India has a comparable carrier (smaller but carries same number of planes) and operates better planes (the MiG-29K’s) and has longer history with carriers. No evidence that they can project or sustain their carrier far from shores. Their future plans of building multiple carriers seems somewhat far-fetched.
The UK’s future plans seems impressive, but the trend for the Royal Navy over the last 30 years has been downward decline, locking themselves into the F-35B’s by not building a catapult might have just doomed the QEII-class; most probably they will convert one of the two ships (if they can’t find a buyer for the second one) into a helicopter carrier.
How the Chinese Navy will use the Liaoning? The Liaoning’s primary mission is to train navel and air crews and build experience with battlegroups. They will NOT use it in an attack on Taiwan, Taiwan is within combat-radius of the Chinese air force fields in China, there is no need for a carrier. They will NOT clash with US battlegroups on the high seas, that’s just crazy and suicidal. As to the South China Sea, they are building three military-grade airstrips on their new islands, having a carrier will add little to the defence of the islands.
What they might do though is send the battlegroup to their new Djibouti navel base on a visit and a tour of Africa, hosting African leaders on the Chinese carrier is a great show of strength and great advertisement for Chinese military hardware (already Algeria & Nigeria bought ships from China).
The Chinese navy has sent 25 escort conveys to the Gulf of Aden on anti-piracy mission since 2008 (a couple of frigates each), sending the carrier there in imitation of the US is exactly why they want carriers; to keep up with the Americans!
So in conclusion: The Liaoning is one of the largest non-US carriers, has no nuclear propulsion, has no catapult, the J-15 seems a capable plane, battlegroup excellent, sustainment excellent, experience is gradually being accumulated. It’s two major missions: training & advertisement for the PLAN are being fulfilled. A second carrier similar to the Liaoning is already under construction and a third new design is the plans (probably with a catapult and nuclear propulsion).
Admiral Kuznetsov is a Heavy Aircraft-carrying Cruiser, not an Aircraft Carrier, an important point in meeting the 1936 Treaty of Montreaux.
Heeeeeees back!
A feature of YouTube comments is the constant announcements ( by Americans) that some show/film/ad ‘brought me here’.
Since the songs/music are invariably classics that predate the shows/films/ads – sometimes by centuries – it is really annoying.
Checking out Tchailovsky’s ‘Waltz of the Flowers’, I was delighted to see Iossif Stalin had shown up with a no-nonsense message for these klutzes:
Do you know what bought me here? Typing ‘the waltz of the flowers by Tchaikovsky.’ The ‘[noun] brought me here’ memers – get out of the comment section.
Joseph Stalin
Eimar, I replied to one of your comments in the last café, not realising that the new venue was already up and running. You might find the link of interest.
/moveable-feast-cafe-2017-01-19/#comment-314494
Thanks Helen.
Seems the ‘addiction to monogamy’ ( as Denis rather provocatively puts it) tends to reassert itself within a single generation.
I wonder if a meta-study on these communes would yield a consistent pattern ?
At any rate, his proposal is far from novel, much less ‘shocking’ given its recurrence over the last two centuries.
A comparison between the longevity of traditional monogamous communities like the Amish and such communal ‘free-love’ experiments would be interesting.
I agree Eimar that studies of the happenings in these communities long term would be of interest – but so far all those we know of, and there have been a few, show them to be short lived with rather sad ends.
Of course, Dennis could well claim that this is a function of the well known aphorism that you can’t put new wine into old bottles [i.e. that those people were contaminated with the indoctrination he claims exists regarding patriarchy].
I argue that the claims for group sex lifestyles as a norm, as a requisite for successful life are countered from two related demonstrable phenomena.
One – is the evidence from Complexity Theory. This has been shown to hold true for ALL natural associations, from the formation to molecules to human social interaction – it is the attraction at the heart of all; – of Like:Similar for Like:Similar. Studies taken from MBTI – using thousands of participants – has shown that people the most alike not only form the strongest of initial attractions but that the bonds are stronger over time leading to the most enduring and rewarding of relationships.
Logic indicates that such Like:Similar is going to occur more often and more strongly between only two people – and indeed studies here support this contention. Moreover, these are always shown to be mutually and voluntarily exclusive.
The other that occurred to me is a extension of the first. The most physically “Like” you can be is in DNA. [Although I hasten to add, I do not believe this is the only Like there is or that it is of greater import than consciousness “Like” which I believe is the strongest “Like” there is].
Indeed, while this phenomenon of attractions between close family members was likely observed in the Middle Ages, it’s been confirmed now following extensive social breakdown and the advent of IVF technologies.
Opposite sex but DNA related people who do NOT know each other during early development [this is essential] show an overwhelming degree of attraction to each other if they meet for the for the first time as adults, such that they defy social convention against “incest” and remain as sexual partners. Exclusivity is total. The couples report an overwhelming attraction in the first moments of meeting; a sense of complete confidence in the rightness of their association and a degree of sexual pleasure that far outstrips anything they had ever previously known.
This is odd: on meeting someone, we never know anything about their DNA – how can this have the effect it does? We have no idea, but it’s extensively documented.
There are however many people who have no reason to believe in any DNA matching, but who report the same phenomenon. Michael Caine [UK Cockney Film actor], M.M. Kaye, the writer of the Indian Novel “Far Pavilions” are two that leap to mind. Both knew a total exclusive bonding at first sight of their subsequent partners – and no idea of any “patriarchy” was present, only that sense of absolute attachment which brooked not one iota of denial.
Patriarchy is a political power movement. It exists among all type of power mongers including the Catholic [Western ] Church. It is a means of controlling a people. It has absolutely no relationship to what happens when two individuals, a man and a women, meet each other and form a bond based on love, and the sexual attraction which goes hand in hand with that love and is 100% exclusive.
I think Mr. Leary has confused a political power tool with the interactions between two individuals – and is shown by several criteria to be wrong. The criteria of interaction between individual men and women and examined scientifically negates any form of “group sex” as a norm and supports exclusive bonding as the overwhelming, natural, normal “norm”.
To my mind, after all the details are studied and I am still left scratching my monogamous, but in late middle age ‘passionately’ questioning head, the clincher is this: Leib Davidovich Bronstein, talmudo-satanist non pareil was a champion of ‘free love’.
That his version of ‘free love’ was only for the Christian Slavic (Goy) proles sets my treble alarm bells ringing. Leib was going to live in New York, fencing the antiques and art of the Russian aristocrats his Zio-Bolsheviks were murdering, and fucking Goy women of the Anglo and Hispanic variety.
My bass alarm bells sound when I consider that the Goys were all going to be in unisex coveralls, separated by sexes and fornicating on command, like cattle.
I wonder if what Leary proposes has any relationship to that. And how could it not?
Haha, couldn’t agree more. I feel the same kind of frustration and anger when I encounter a fairly similar manifestation of corporate mindrot and trivialization as outlined below.
There are various TV quizzes that focus on cities around the world. I remember in particular one episode In which Mumbai in India was included among three selected towns. Did sound promising actually, but it got totally trashed by the very first question:
“The English rock star was born in Mumbai. Please name three of his hits”
Bottom line: Anglo screams trump history and geography as well as anything else for that matter.
White House Counselor: ‘I Don’t See the Point’ of Women’s March on Washington
https://sputniknews.com/us/201701231049895491-conway-dismissed-womens-march/
“The counselor also condemned celebrities for commenting on the event using explicit language and making inflammatory statements. For instance, Madonna said during a speech at the march that she “thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.”
“You have a very prominent singer who’s worth hundreds of millions of dollars not going over to a woman’s shelter here in DC to write a check, but instead saying that she thought of, quote, ‘Burning down the White House,'” Conway said.
The singer, who supported Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election in the US, said that she was “outraged” in the wake of Trump’s swearing-in and that the march represented the beginning of a revolution.
“I just thought they missed an opportunity to be about solutions and to really fight for those millions of women whose kids are trapped in failing schools, who don’t have access to health care, who don’t have access to an economic affordable life,” Conway explained.”
Kellyanne Conway 1, the madonna critter 0. But then, madonna has always been a 0.
You know, Trump might turn out to be an awful bum and a shill for the 1% and all, but the ridiculous things that the ‘liberals’ keep saying make it very difficult to even consider valid criticism now, they have divided the country so much and destroyed so much honest dialogue and political process.
I don’t know if this is deliberate tactics from the oligarchy or not, but the Trump critics, Democrats, and liberals should wake up and see badly they are wounding themselves and the country. I can never support either group again, they have disgraced themselves so badly. They have betrayed everything they said they stood for.
Kellyanne Conway, Counselor to President Trump,was interviewed yesterday or better said rudely attacked on TV by Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press” for false information’ about their inauguration attendance numbers. She thrashed Chuck Todd by saying that “Presidents aren’t judged by crowd sizes at their inaugurations, they are judged by their accomplishments.” Furthermore she said “We’re going to have to rethink our relationship with the media.”
Well done Conway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewmkqygDes
A bill proposing US withdrawal from the UN is likely to become a reality:
https://www.rt.com/usa/374754-us-leave-united-nations-bill/
How will this affect the Security Council?
Perhaps a UN minus the US is needed so that the world can have a united front in dialogue with the rogue nation.
In the latest Cafe, Kent wrote a very good comment which worth to be red again. He is right, many people have no clue of the history behind the events we are commenting here on this blog. That’s why they can see the tree but not the wood. How could somebody understand the facts which are taking place without not knowing who are those who pull the strings behinds certain events ? And this is even more a harsh reality when we talk to the younger generations. There are also elderly who are stuck within certain ideas, not wanting to expand their own knowledge, thinking probably that what they know is enough for them and the world shall stay in that way forever. I would like to emphasize, that the learning is never ending, alike the evil is never sleeping. Here is what Kant had to say : /moveable-feast-cafe-2017-01-19/#comment-313565
of course : Kent
Thanks for the link. It is very much how I proceed in the world at large and in my community and family. Though family tends mostly ignores me, deeming me as a conspiracy wacko. But the article by Karl Rove which Kent has linked to below points to something much more sinister coming into the for. Disagreement with the newly emerging leftist, feminine, liberal wave is becoming far less tolerated. I feel this is one of the social trends we are going to see i this brave new world we are being dragged into.
k
Trump makes nice with the CIA and continues same-old, same-old in the midEast:
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/01/22/yemen-reports-first-us-drone-strikes-under-trump/
So. Will we see an early morning hanging or not?
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/the-clinton-foundation-is-dead-but-the-case-against-hillary-isnt/
Depiction: http://telemarksporten.no/Tegneserier/ClintonHangChalkShadow.jpg
Take Care
Kent
This guy is still around somewhere. Amazing!!
“How can anyone quarrel with Rove’s prophecy. He told Suskind that we will forever be studying newly created realities. This is what the mainstream media continue to do. His words made it very clear: you have no choice!”
http://www.unz.com/article/karl-roves-prophecy/#comment-1737537
http://fotovision.no/GLP1/Karl_Rove_Empire_Faces_of_Evil.jpg
Kent
Estonian think tank ‘studying the loyalty of young Russians to the Estonian state’
http://news.postimees.ee/3984543/center-studying-loyalty-of-young-russians
Wonder what Scott thinks about this?
Also, Israel to make writing about the Mossad a criminal offence, punishable by up to seven years imprisonment.
Wow. Just when you thought Likud fascism couldn’t get any worse……
A country that puts up with this kind of abuse/censorship deserves to implode.
What’s going to happen? Trying to guess/ assess the effects of Trump is an obbession of many, myself included. I’m pretty much in the camp that America was never that great in the first place, but that is very personal- it’s just not the kind of culture I can relate to. Trump is an icon of exactly what I wish America wasn’t- loud, gregarious, capitalist, Hollywood, superficial religious rhetoric, corporate branding and franchises, and politicians with an elementary school level vocabulary.
My sense of a homeland resembles the spirit of culture I perceive in Russia. Religion with historic roots, a deep love for the Motherland, a still vital peasant population and reverence for the soil, traditional values such as loving ONE partner and raising a loving family in the virtues of truth, beauty and goodness (@Dennis), no GMO’s, and speeches by Putin and Lavro…etc etc.
Here’s how my intuitive guess theory has evolved so far. An initial economic boom due to import tariffs and major deregulation will be big win for industry investments and more money for the 1%, but not great for the environment or decent labor laws. Deep cuts to health care, SS, etc. This will provide volatile fuel for Soros and company who are whipping up a color revolution by promoting a restless, angry mood of dissatisfaction and anger towards Trump. The mood will of dissent will increase, and could be a strategic move to trump Trump. Mobilizing a large majority of people back into the “yes we can”, faux revolutionary illusion of power so that they beg for regime change. “Oh please just give us a beneficent (one world) dictator (preferably trans but we’ll take gay), who will defend the climate, create a digital global currency, and fulfill promise of a technological heaven on earth.
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k
I also appreciate traditional values such as the ones you mentioned. The reason I question them is that for thousands of years they have supported war with rare exceptions. This site is dedicated to stopping the Empire’s war on Russia which to be effective must include stopping war in general by rooting out the causes.
Monogamy divides and conquers small communities of sexually bonded individuals. These small communities form larger networks of like minded individuals which can resist the values of Empire.
Overcoming the addiction to traditional values is extremely difficult because it entails going past traditions to the original conditions. In our day and age, this task will only be carried on by individuals who are called to it.
I can appreciate and enjoy traditions even as I question them and bypass them in favor of something better. For the most part I do this mentally, and physically only insofar as it is safe and beneficial for myself and others. On a societal level, leaders could say like the Love Army that we oppose war on these principles which by violating you force us into the position of self-defense. The point is to be clear what the principles are which the Love Army presents here. But that supposes a non-addicted and educated mind in the principles of truth and a general proclamation by governments.
Hi D,
I respect you for many, reasons, and if I ever make it to la jolla I will meet you in some cafe if you promise not to discuss the goofy idea that monogamy promotes war and communal sex is the solution to war.
Promoting cultural understanding, social learning, and the development of empathy and compassion seems to be a more direct course of action, with far greater chances of success.
I do long for community life with people who share a similar vision of human culture and wish to live on the earth in a sacred manner. But your communal sex ideas are not for me.
Love k
” Trump is an icon of exactly what I wish America wasn’t- loud, gregarious, capitalist, Hollywood, superficial religious rhetoric, corporate branding and franchises, and politicians with an elementary school level vocabulary. ”
Funny I have a complete other one omn my screen
I see a very honest man appealing to an american, which might be born just in these weeks and months, to me Thrump is appealing, speaking slowly, repeating sentences, and as president without precedence
nobody in this mess thought two years ago, that America would ever have such a chance to create it’s real
soul, I might say, it’s John Steinbeck soul, and it’s drugstore soul, and all humble american souls, I never have meat each one different from Hollywood, man and … me as a german – ” native soul”
… I must cry, hey … this man is no politician, this man is a hero, no american compares with him in death-wishes – demons eaten by a crazy wolf like Vladimir in Russia , a real hero in America at 12:00, and he did it …
and never forget, he is , at last, the american “professional”, long asced for by professional Russia, congratulation, fly-over america, you didi it
The loud, boisterous, perhaps over self-confident, assertive, optimistic, unsophisticated, log cabin persona brings a smile of happy recognition here in the US, because that exactly describes our national political character back in time when we were a young country — growing by leaps and bounds, and confident that God was on our side.
Trump instaurates this spirit — blowing the embers of it that still survive in us here in flyover country back into a fire again.
No more Woody Allen neuroticism. Enemies ? Bring them on ! The bigger they are, the harder they fall !
That’s how I perceive him at any rate.
Misanthropic Ladies, Rejoice! Spider Dress to Isolate From Unwanted Annoyance
https://sputniknews.com/science/201701231049927062-robodress-for-personal-boundaries/
Simultaneously defends the wearer from the patriarchy and the great goy unwashed…
Can’t see it catching on really.
Me neither.
Though I can see it catching on door-handles and the like quite easily.
Wonder if it comes with a little ‘after-sales service’ homunculus, perhaps kept in an integrated purse to deal with the inevitable software bugs etc.?
Needs more work. :-)
I’d like to make some old matters new again by following my vineyard notes in reverse.
Thanks to Saker and Brainstorm for the question: Is Russia’s Deep State in Civil War, Just like America’s? I don’t have the answer but only further questions.
Who are the ones calling for world unity? Who are but really are not? And most importantly who is not? Israel is the exception in all this mess, the only one to gain from keeping the pot stirred up and boiling.
My projection of the evil master behind the mess is Count Khazar, pulling strings in Washington, London, Russia and well, everywhere, the most recent embodiment of The Psychopath Elephant in the war room that no one wants to take seriously. And so we condemn ourselves to endless talks of futility.
Psychopathy and Patriarchy are Tweedle-dee Dee and Tweedle-dee Dum.
“Tweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee Dee
They’re throwing knives into the tree
Two big bags of dead men’s bones
Got their noses to the grindstones
Brains in the pot, they’re beginning to boil
They’re dripping with garlic and olive oil”
Pizzagate lifted the lid all the way back to killing the first animals and eating them. The stench got worse with hunting witches and men and sacrificing them on altars to God who blessed the whole operation.
Now the uniates, led by the Pope himself, continue the blessing with no idea whatsoever how the mess was cooked up in the first place. The establishment silence about the cause of war is deafening. We are all playing on the edge of the knife of sacrifice, not just child victims.
Dare I say it yet again? Sex is at the root of all this. Natural communal sex in a safe bower is joy unbound. Perverted sex in fearful minds is the result of rejection of natural sex and is the cause of war. It is always misunderstood when there is no basis for understanding left in a washed out culture or highest cortex brain.
The Love Army is offering the solution but like the original situation it is misunderstood and rejected. And so the endless talking heads reign supreme with their unity dream. In the meantime, Count Khazar plays the disunity card to his advantage while playing along with a poker face.
In the last cafe (bless her soul) A(frica)nonymaus or A’mans gave a refreshing new slant on an old cant. Doris Lessing was no lemming but she fell off the cliff anyway before the end. Living in huts with “the man” is still patriarchy but at a more benign stage. Going all the way back to the future to communal sex in a Lodge or Bower is a breeze but 99% there is a bitch.
Did you know that the name Jesus is built upon gematria? (David Fedeler, Jesus the Sun of God).
ioan’s question about women against Trump deserves an answer. Anyone?
Bernay’s “you’ve come a long way Baby” with the nicotine psy-op has been improved for both sexes with pot which threatens to make potheads of us all to match our drive towards petheads.
Bro’s Dance with Me is a good metaphor for sex which does not go all the way and so remains a glitsy tease, sugar and spice but no sauce. Be cautioned: we cannot jump into a physical bed with an uninformed mental head and come out alive in spirit.
The bell curve extremes “raw sex and war sex” are not just reversed terms but reverse engineered states of human tragi-comedy.
My own state is in synchronicity, serendipity and symbolicity with the state of the world. I can hardly walk from a sore gluteal muscle, the result of hauling and chopping wood and digging trenches to stay dry and warm and prevent going down in the flood here the last couple of days after years of drought. On top of that I have a sore rib from coughing out the bronchitis. Fortunately I have you to comfort poor ol’ me.
I love you all, believe it or not since love as little to do with belief.
Thanks for the blessing! Yes, I began feeling elated somehow yesterday during the day, and this without any known reason (there aren‘t any these days) – so why…? Aha, someone was being nice – thank you, it arrived.
A‘maus
https://www.rt.com/usa/374819-trump-orders-tpp-repeal/
EU next?
@ mods
Do you have any idea of what happened to my post on Love and War Episode 19 which I posted about five hours ago. It was posted before the later one above (8:47 pm). The last time this happened it was suggested I repost it which worked. Thanks.
the previous mod referred it to Saker. mod PS
Thanks. If there is nothing further said from the Saker or mods, I will assume there was something not acceptable in the post. If that is the case I would like to know what the objection was. If no explanation is given, I will have to draw my own conclusions. Thanks for responding, mod PS.
WE tend not to discuss further with referred posts, but if you wish to address Saker directly you can leave a post indicating such and I will send it on to him without posting. modPS
Dennis, objections there have been aplenty, and some praise too, and genuine appreciations.
Stop up conflating free love with free sex that’s all.
Cop on -Irish slang – wise up, get some sense.
Splendid to see so many Russians speaking wonderful English! If only it happened the other way round….
Does any one remember the January 9,1988 issue of The Economist (Rothchild) magazine with an image on the cover of a phoenix rising from the ashes of burning national currencies, including the dollar. The cover relates to an article titled “Get ready for the phoenix”, which foretold of a world currency. As I am in ‘conspiracy mode’ thinking today, I find significance in the fact that that the phoenix is wearing a medal with the year 2018.
Here is a link to a blog that posts a picture of the cover and excerpts from the article.
http://redefininggod.com/2014/09/mainstream-globalist-propaganda-reveals-eastwest-conflict-is-a-farce/
k
Here is a link to an article and 2 worthwhile videos documenting the CIA sponsored network behind the color revolutions. They have developed a video game which simulate street protestk strategies.
k
“CANVAS was set up by the CIA as “an International network of trainers and consultants” involved in the “Revolution Business”. Funded by Freedom House, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) as well private corporate foundations. CANVAS constitutes a consulting outfit, advising and training US sponsored opposition groups in more than 40 countries. In this regard, OTPOR played a key role in fomenting the mass uprisings during the Arab Spring in Egypt in 2011. What appeared to be a spontaneous democratization process was a carefully planned intelligence operation. ”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/color-revolution-against-donald-trump/5569300
Pro-Erdogan MP slams NATO as ‘terrorist organization’ & ‘threat’ to Turkey
https://www.rt.com/news/374851-turkey-nato-coup-terrorist/
“NATO has always been in charge of the dirty and bloody deeds in the country. The 1960 military coup was staged by the British, the 1971 coup was staged by the CIA, and the 1980 coup was staged by NATO,” Tayyar said, as cited by Hurriyet.
Far from being a partner, NATO “has become a threat and is spreading terror organizations across the region,” Tayyar claimed, adding that it should be treated on a par with other Turkish adversaries designated as terrorist groups by Ankara, such as Islamic State [IS, formerly ISIS, ISIL], the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, as well as the Hizmet movement led by exiled cleric Fethullah Gulen, which the Turkish authorities label as FETÖ (Fethullahist Terror Organization).”
Rex Tillerson Already Talking Regime Change in Venezuela
http://www.globalresearch.ca/rex-tillerson-already-talking-regime-change-in-venezuela/5570310
“Tillerson and Venezuela, in fact, have a bitter history and some say he might pursue personal revenge against the socialist government as he takes the international diplomatic stage in Washington.
In 2007, late President Hugo Chavez ordered the nationalization of 22 major multinational corporations operating in the country including ExxonMobil, then headed by Tillerson.
He rejected the compensation deal offered by the government of US$1 billion and took Venezuela to the international arbitration court demanding instead US$10 billion. But the rarely defeated CEO lost and his company settled for US$1.6 billion.
“(Tillerson) took it very personal with Chavez,” said Ghassan Dagher, a Venezuelan oil industry consultant to the New York Times in December.”
See also this detailed article for some additional material on tillerson-exxon-mobil potential conflicts of interest.
Rex Tillerson’s Exxon Mobil Frequently Sought State Department Assistance, New Documents Show
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/17/exxonmobil-state-department/
It’s the start of the Tillerson State Department era, with a good old fashioned oil & gas deposit slugfest!! Putin and his team must have seen this coming.
Billionaire Stephen Schwarzman, who is President Trump’s pointman for trade with Canada via NAFTA, said yesterday that Canada “has been a great partner of the United States for as long as anyone can remember,” and “things should go well” with trade talks. Personally, I’m just not feelin’ it. But I really hope I am wrong.
I see Trump signed off on Keystone XL and the Dakota Pipeline today. Next stop, Alaska, isn’t it?
Vot; I seldom weigh in but all this is so scattered, which is easy to happen. Just sailing by. We all know how vast and global x-on is. So re Venezuela, or anybody with something to steal, we also know what a predator like tillerson will do. Do we not think of how these bastards are all connected? Dick cheney-halliburton, james baker-houston-bush+deep cia-connected million murder state dept; Throw in the CFR, it is all the same, are people really discussing whether tillerson is a nice guy or not, or if there is any flexibility in what to expect? What happened to Chavez? Obviously plutonium poisoning. Who is next? Does anybody really think turnip is going to discipline these boys? He wouldn’t want to and would die if he tried.
Opening the gates of the black gold will inevitably lead to oil surplus on the world market, hence the oil prices will go down again, probably. This will have a negative impact on Russia and the recently signed oil agreement on output by the OPEC countries and Russia will have to be revised. In the case of Venezuela, this will have also a further crashing effect. I am still waiting for the meeting between Trump and Putin. The following time will not be boring…
Following Trump’s walk/back on NATO – his beef is the lack of matched spending by other members, not that it’s ‘ obsolete’- the latest Zionist tactic is to use the potential savings of a US-UNexit to bolster US control over NATO ( clearly now intended for Greater Israel purposes):
http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/766216?section=RichLowry&keywords=nato-un-funding-nyc&year=2016&month=12&date=30&id=766216&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Main&oref=www.bing.com
Is it a case of the Swamp creatures merely adapting to a ‘new’ habitat?
“Is it a case of the Swamp creatures merely adapting to a ‘new’ habitat?’
Yes,
…and a recasting, to some extent, of the speaking roles. McCain has so far retained his role as “speaker of the lists” of evil thug Putin crimes — was given time this very morning to recite them on U.S. TV, CBS morning news. Charlie, Nora, and Gail asked the soliciting questions and sat nodding in silence as the fictional list was spewed. Betcha McCain will appear on NPR and PBS and other “networks” within the next 12 – 24 hours. Trump has not stopped this, and he could. That “speaks volumes,” as they say.
Donald Trump (and handlers) are not stupid. Tillerson has been cast as chief diplomat for reasons other than peace on Earth. Trump is good at property development, Tillerson is expert at oil and gas development. That is his role. Make no mistake about that. The role of EPA head is to gut environmental regulations–he’s wanted that for years. The role of DOE head is to put a near stop to energy sciences and focus DOE back to “nuclear,” and probably merge in into DoD — effectively back into a misnamed Department of Wars.
New Sec. of Energy (yet another Governor of Texas) announced his determination to totally disband the DOE, not long ago, just after he was “annointed” by crazy Dominionist pseudo-Christianists at a large “stadium event” (that he, himself organized), just a day or two before he announced to run for President. He is a mental dwarf and will be easily confirmed — that’s my guess, anyway. As will the governor whose role it has been to sue EPA over and over to stop implementation of regulations to “protect human health and the environment.”
My guess is that regulations promulgated under the Clean Water Act CWA), the Clear Air Act (CAA), and the Toxic Subtances Control Act (TSCA) will be the first to be attack. Then they may just appoint good ol’ Michelle Bachman (another devout faux-Christian Dominionist, btw) to march down the street, clean out what’s left the EPA (the NEPA people, et al,.), and padlock the door on her way out–just as she promised to do as she campaigned to run for President.
With the dissolution of DOE and EPA, Science and Nature will have been squarely “put in their place,” and many campaign promises will have been fulfilled.
As much as I would like to believe that this supposed popular-movement President Trump intends to make America great (again?), the evidence is quite to the contrary. The swamp remains and grows thicker with toxic sludge as the new actors move in to present us with their faces and voices. The Strategy of Tension and the Strategy of Informational Confusion and Chaos are being combined and implemented in the U.S. (and apparently also in controlled-vassal nations, as well).
This comment is a result of many years of observation and and experience in the implementation of the above-mentioned regulations, mostly under auspices of Superfund consent decrees. I reserve the right to adjust my views, always, as the show unfolds and the frame of reference expands. I do not cling to guesses, speculations, or opinions — not even my own — so do not care or feel obligated to argue in their defense. As The Saker and a few others sometimes say,
just my 2-cents….
Good points Grandma R, and similar in nature to what I have sensed coming down the pike.
There are deals and monies to be made and any regulations that interfere with industry will be removed to ‘create jobs and make our country great”. This will increase the fervor of the angry liberal left and the tension of opposing factions is the desired outcome to bring about a color revolution in America. The big color revolution that will pave the way to the One world gov’t and global currency.
I also do not cling to my speculations or observations and adjust them as needed. I also pray ‘may it not be so.”
A few more cents
k
Questions
Nothing new under the Sun
Said the father to his son.
I think, it was Solomon,
Speaking loudly on the throne.
But don’t tell to anyone
That wise men are all gone,
Leaving us in emptiness
With questions and stress.
Then the quiet youth spoke,
“The magi are gone,
And wisdom is scarcely to be found.
Our questions must live
And be our guide
Until a new Truth we do find.
Everything under the sun
Will be new.
When light through shadows
Again breaks through.
For that time in faith we wait.
And the future we do create.
Faith, hope and love
Three guiding beams
Direct our hearts
To God’s own dreams.
K
Love these poems, ioan and kinterra, and really appreciate the comments, kinterra and GrandmaR!! Questions – that is exactly how I feel today. All the perspectives are really very helpful to me. Glad you all took time to post.
Thanks for your poetic reply kinterra, I always enjoys that. Your optimistic tone , makes me feel good. And yes, at the end, the Light shall win.
There are deals and monies to be made and any regulations that interfere with industry will be removed to ‘create jobs and make our country great”.
Just as there were deals (regulations) cut and money made under the previous regime, only by different parties. So long as the government itself is exploited as a natural resource, nothing really changes.
“Pass a law, make a business.” (Catherine Austin Fitts, quoting a street expression in Philadelphia ca, 1950).
Your ‘2 cents’ are worth a lot more GrandmaR.
Very informative, thanks.
Still maintaining some optimism myself (the repeal of TTP), but not by any means ‘euphoric’ ( as the Kremlin has likewise cautioned.)
Early days yet.
Interesting , Russia announced test results of rail gun test today………
“The US is near to conducting Sea trials of a railgun in 2017 or 2018
There, they will attempt to fire a 20kg projectile at hypersonic speeds.
By contrast, Russia’s railgun projectile is a thousand times smaller and reached speeds of 7,200mph. ”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4151214/Russian-unveils-new-weapon-shatter-armour.html#ixzz4WgyNXPJU
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read more………
Following Wagenknecht’s desire to ‘include’ Russia in European security, Italian foreign minister likens anti-Russia sanctions to a ‘service’ enjoyed by the US, but paid for by Europe (through jobs losses and business decline):
https://www.rt.com/business/374904-russia-sanctions-italy-us/
Of course, until NATO is vanquished, these noises are just that – noises.
It seems Euroweenies – the Brussels elites – are realizing they are now between a rock and a hard place – serious hostility from their own populations and a shaky ‘protection’ from Washington.
The EU is long overdue major reform if it is to survive as a trading bloc.
If it doesn’t, it will destruct.
It’s that simple.
Eimar
Apologies for my derailment now, but I would like to give you some links regarding a subject discussed in the previous Cafe :
https://owlcation.com/humanities/25-Facts-about-Vlad-Tepes-the-Impaler
http://www.livescience.com/48536-vlad-the-impaler-dark-secrets.html
and a small rectification : the god of the Dacians/Getae was Zamolxis.
Thanks Iaon.
That Vlad seems to have been a more ruthless customer than his contemporary Russian namesake, Vladimir Putin :-)
Which is fortunate for Erdogan :-)
“In East Slavic languages, short versions of the name are Vova, Volodka, Volodya (but not Vlad, which is common short version for other Slavic name – Vladislav)”
I dont want to be picky, but using names respectfully is, I think, important.
We in the West dont’ really understand in general, that a so called “short” version of name in Russia isn’t the same as our lazy way of shortening a name for familiarity and because we can’t be bothered using the full name. i.e. “Pat” for “Patricia”.
In Russia, it’s actually a familial title that is used only by those close to the person. A man christened as Vladimir would only be called Volodya, Vovka, by his family and very close friends. For those who do not know him, it’s an impertinence, and over-familiarity; a sign of being very ignorant and bad mannered.
Additionally, “Vlad” is NOT a familiar for Vladimir, but for Vladislav, a name not used much in Russia but more in the Balkans.
I think, since when we are referring to Vladimir Putin we are also referring to the President of the Russian Federation, we should, perhaps, be a bit more respectful of another culture’s social norms, and use the formal address.
The ‘Vlad’ referred to was the eponymous Romanian on which the ‘Dracula’ novel was based.
Not an abbreviation of Vladimir – Putin or otherwise.
My comment was in the nature of a pun, and meant in jest.
I’m sure Mr Putin has a sense of humour, don’t you?
Isabella wrote about how to address Russians in polite speech – according to the Spanish court protovol, one might say – which was not happening here.
Here, posters speak not to His Excellency, the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, but with one another, and this not in Russian, but in American English, Amercian more than than English manners included, where long first names are routinely and ruthlessly replaced by its first sylable – in this case „Vlad“, which, indeed, tends to be used quite often (by people doubtlessly unfamiliar with any kind of court protocol) to designate His Excellency… etc. etc.
In the Russian wikipedia „Vlada“ and „Vladya“ are first mentioned as „other forms“ of the name „Vladimir“. „Vladislav“, according to the same source, is a „Russian“ name (both, Vladimir and Vladislav, probably derived from Germanic Waldemar), and the first two other forms given there are „Slava“ and „Slavunya“. I am not sure that „Vladislav“ is much used in Greece or Albania or Romania. Generally speaking, both names are „Southern Slavic“ as opposed to Northern Slavic, since the ancient syllable form /t*lt/ ist here rendered as /tlat/ and not /tolot/. In Russia both traditions happily coexist and gave us, e.g., names like Novgorod and Leningrad. Before some Slavs moved to the Balcans (in the 6th c. AD according to the Berlin-Vienna school of history, much hated in one of the Balcan countries), they all lived together in what is today Byelorussia and Ukraine, and the splitting of the languages took place there; dismissing certain traits of one of them as „balcanic“ (backwardly, dirty, ignorant) is off the mark.
I am not sure that His Excellency…etc… etc… himself used and uses that subdued, court_eous language at all occasions during his career in that Excellent Security Institution of the Russian Federation and its predecessor as if he was and behaved as jesuitically or tartuffily as in XVIth c. Rome where Du Bellay wrote in his LXXXVIth „Regret“:
„Marcher d’un grave pas et d’un grave sosurci …| Balancer tous ses mots, respondre de la teste | Avec un Messer non, ou bien un Messer si: ..|.. Voilà de ceste Court la plus grande vertu…”
Didn’t we have all that a while ago already?
@Anon
I am not sure that His Excellency…etc… etc… himself used and uses that subdued, court_eous language at all occasions during his career in that Excellent Security Institution of the Russian Federation and its predecessor as if he was and behaved as jesuitically or tartuffily as in XVIth c. Rome where Du Bellay wrote in his LXXXVIth „Regret“:
‘Jesuitically or tartuffily (Tartuffe?)’.
Indeed, I am sure he’s ‘flexible’ too :-)
‘Be sure of your company’ (pace the inevitable gaffes that come with cultural unawareness) is a good rule of thumb.
Though blogs in international spaces like the net make it almost impossible to follow, since one can never know the true nature of the ‘company’ you are in.
So unless the Saker introduces a ‘court protocol’ for us ‘rabble’ (;-) in the vineyard, we are presumably free to behave as ‘jesuitically’ ( not for me – I detest sophists) or ‘tartuffily’ (more my style, being disposed to irreverence) as we wish.
Ps ‘ Tartuffily’ has been added to my personal lexicon. I like it:-)
Most excellent good Your Excellency Anonymous.
Hmm, Vova and Vovka are smashing as are Vlada and Vladya and Slava and Slavunya, now we are spoiled for choice and Vlad seems so tame . . .
Wait and see Vlad Tartuffily
And do not depart Huffily
Your name is not called in vein
By vain vineyarders disdaining
Some Cafe super-wit truffley
But is courteously refrained
Mannered decorum trained
With only glad Vlad at heart.
Spoilt for choice!
Love your ditty
Very witty!
Hey Anonymous, this is great ! I’ve never thought that from Vlad to Vlad could be so fascinating. Great poem, and great discussion above !
And, in the spirit of clarity – essential for harmony – let us be clear that ‘tartuffily’ is a Vineyard ‘original’, signifying a a stylistic irreverence exemplified by Moliere himself, not a form of deceit as in ‘tartuffery’:
From the website Shmoop:
Tartuffe riled up Molière’s critics even more than his previous plays. At the time, the Catholic Church was a major political power in France. As you might imagine, a play about a hypocritical criminal masquerading as a holy man didn’t go over too well. The dévots, a group of ultra-conservative Catholic nobility, were especially offended. Oh, and it didn’t help that Orgon, a member of the upper class, was portrayed as a total fool. All of this “offensive” material, caused the play to be banned.
As they say, there’s no such thing as bad publicity; and Tartuffe has certainly benefited from its notoriety. “Tartuffe” (along with the noun tartuffery) has entered into the dictionary in both English and French. A tartuffe, as you might expect, is a hypocrite, religious or otherwise; tartuffery is, well, acting like Tartuffe. The play has been filmed, broadcast on TV, brought to Broadway (and, quite probably, a high school near you!). It’s pretty much the classic French play for English speakers. Now it’s your turn enjoy it.
This is the last comment I shall make on this issue.
I think my original comment, on re-reading it, was courteously and lightly addressed. I wonder why so many saw fit to respond with such defensiveness. It brought to mind “I think the lady doth protest too much”.
Perhaps it touched on nerves after all.
I would hope so – it would indicate that a degree of sensitivity is present which otherwise cannot be supposed.
The AngloFrancoGermanic West is notorious world wide for it’s arrogance, especially to people of other cultures. And for it’s utter ignorance of same cultures, it’s willingness to tread on feet and then wonder why they are quietly despised.
There are two things to consider in this one issue.
One – you believe yourself to be talking of a man with whom you are familiar. An accepted close friend and confidante who has invited you to “call me Volodya”.
since this is unlikely, we are left with the second:
You are talking to or of the President of Russian Federation.
It there is one thing that Mr. Putin has made very very clear from the world go, by his own behaviour and language, it’s that this position is the position of ultimate power in Russia and demanding of total respect.
If you dont’ believe me, read his Autobiography. If you’re short of time, go look at the clip from one of the Q&A’s of small boy asking a question to “Uncle Volodya”. The shadow that flickered over his face was quickly controlled, but his distaste and annoyance were clear. Because Vladimir Putin thinks himself above an unacceptable familiarity? No. I doubt this easy going and very approachable, self-deprecating man would care. Because it was a mark of disrespect to the position.
This separation of the position from the person is something those who served in the Forces or even those close to Royal circles, learned to understand. It was something drummed into us long ago as part of our education. But it seems most in the AngloWest dont understand it.
After all, I see in English newspapers the English Queen referred to as “Lizzie”, The Duchess of Cambridge as “Kate Middleton”, the President of USA as … well, the list is endless.
If you refer to a position without respect you undermine the respect for the position and the power it needs to have in order to the job it has to do. This is well known in fact to propagandists who have long used it as a tool. You can’t fear or respect that which you feel free to address in any mocking fashion you choose.
What is additionally irritating for me is the view it promulgates of Westerners to people overseas. I think if President Putin were to see these offensive familiarities here, it might annoy, but mainly he would, I suspect, just shrug with a “Oh Well, One can’t expect anything else”. I would wish the West could learn some manners.
However, when people come to mock hiding behind the usual “Anonymouse” like Burns “Wee, sleekit, cow’rin, tim’rous beastie,
O, what a panic’s in thy breastie!”
what else to expect. :-)) ??
I am as I was brought up – to be respectful of positions, people occupying them, and other cultures and ways of living. Of boundaries, in other words. Nothing can change that. That’s all I was wanting to point out.
Now, Anonymouse, have fun. I wont be bringing this trivial issue up again – I’m pretty much “out of here” anyway.
Isabella, don’t take it to your heart, sometimes we need some relax, some fresh air, even some humor. Our personal life is enough to deal with, and there are really many things to take them to our heart. I mean, this question is not so important from my personal stand, there is no Excellency who will come to me and ease my life and cure my wounds. I am that, who must do that, as it was always.
The life don’t stops, it goes on,
Even if I’m not the number one.
The number ones are leading,
and I’m just speak and dreaming.
My dream is about inner peace,
Their dream is far away to reach.
This is a reply to ioans’ comment below.
I have no idea why, but your comment to me doesn’t carry a “reply” option. So I have to “reply” like this.
Ioan – thank you for your kind words.
By the way – I’m curious about your name. I’m Welsh – in Wales the capital “I” in a name is used where the English use a Y /J.
So – and Ioan is Joan – my mother’s name!!
However, to move on. I wasn’t really taking it to heart – or maybe I was.
I’ve just been upbraided on Russia Insider for allowing “put-downs” to spoil my otherwise blameless comments, otherwise much appreciated ones, I was told.
I never deliberately do a “put-down”. I’ve never deliberately set out to hurt or humiliate anyone ever, in all my life. It just isn’t me. But if I am doing that, then it’s an indication of growing irritation, tiredness, that I should stand back.
I sense that it’s time I moved on, that’s all. You know how it is? You enter a field of study, and start with enthusiasm, so much is new. But a time comes when you have learned all you can, and given as much as you can of your best.
Small things start to irritate. Thus do you know – It’s time to move on.
I’ve been studying the new, cutting edge archaeology which is challenging the tired old idiotic Academic stuff and was heady and invigorating then. It’s evidence for pre-Ice Age very High cultures is now overwhelming I think. But I see once courageous challengers building silly bridges with no foundation in fact or evidence, to the accepted “Academic” themes which it challenged in the beginning in order, I think, to be accepted.
I’ve found that if I publish comments to reject this, I’m universally attacked.
I’ve found the names of those I respect, who I will follow to see what new evidence is brought to light. But I”m at the end of it now. I’ve overtaken it, and it’s time to move on to new areas of study.
I sort of feel like that about the Internet Comments Community.
Shake any highly heterogeneous mix up, and it will find it’s own layers, build on the Universal principle of Like:Similar drawn to Like:Similar. Just fill a jar with mixed size and shape pebbles, shake and see. It illustrates the principle beautifully.
At the moment, the Internet is still a very heterogeneous mix. And one other truth that we know – when you mix a lower value/class/quality element in with a better one, the lower one will prevail.
Allow coarse crude atheists into a monastery – do you get a monastery with more sensitive, gentle believers? No – you end up with a monastery full of crude coarseness which eventually breaks down and disappears. It’s hard to maintain the good once it’s been infiltrated by the not-good. This, too, has been demonstrated over and over.
What will become of the Internet Comments Community? Heaven knows – I dont.
I just feel that, right now, it’s not for me. It’s time for me to move on. I am neglecting other studies, I am getting busy planning an overseas move to a new life.
Not to say I never will comment. But I think they will diminish in quantity considerably.
Perhaps however, they will improve in quality – I hope so.
I wish you all well – and again, thank you for kind comments.
Good information-poisoning antidote by Karel van Wolferen.
( I am not sure I’d call it ‘provocative’ but if it provokes thought in those otherwise deluded by MSM poison then the word fits. It’s length and depth may unfortunately preclude that for many)
http://www.unz.com/article/karl-roves-prophecy/
It’s not that long. I had to go pee but I held it, finished the whole article and still am at my laptop.
Good article!
For the naive that think they can go back to sleep now that Clintons are probably political dog meat and hope the Donald will do everything and they don’t need to do anything further, just consider:
A Trump either doesn’t know the real depth of 911, or B if he does know, does not yet feel that he can openly reveal what he knows.
There is also C (He knows but has no intention of sharing what he knows….Mossad involvement, for example…….the fact that the Arabs were patsies, etc,etc.) as a possibility. But I tend to think its B.
Either A, B or C the consequence is the same: A lot of work to flush the garbage world Rove talked about in his infamous “We’re an Empire now.” quote down the toilet remains to be done to either A) Get Trump more aware or B) Free him up to talk more openly or C) Force him to change his mind, because covering for 911 means America will never ever “Be Great” again until that inside job crime is prosecuted.
@Bro —
In the hopeful view, he naturally starts with low-hanging fruit, taking on larger and larger problems as he consolidates his power.
People have — with disastrous stupidity — forgotten many of the old proverbs and cliches which their illiterate ancestors used to communicate wisdom down the generations, thinking these were stupid because they were unsophisticated.
In one of these — hopefully explaining Trump’s strategy — a man wants to cut down the trees that have taken over a plot of fertile land he wants to farm. But he has only an axe head — no handle for it.
He tells the forest that he wants only one sapling of it. Not seeing any potential harm in this concession, the forest gives him one.
Using the axe head, he carves a handle for his axe . . .
One step at a time, starting with the easy, small ones.
I dont think these a b c’s of ours are to be prominent in his mind
what to him is given is the given American reality of powerfull
interests seemingly undergoing a rift and a rare moment in time
in which maybe a third position is possible reconciling the better parts of the hostile parties.
and he is not a politician but a management professional of
highest grade with an clean personal record, so they finally had to attack his
manhood, normal enough, to urge them to create bizarre fake stories
but, sigh, It’s a lot of dirt, a hero has to deal with, before the swamp might be
clean
but – – – this is the mythos of the swamp in King Augias’ stable – – –
a half-God-story in perfection, and our soul hopes dearly of more of him as a half-God …
reality can be more or less in accordance with the myth/archetype/God receiving
corresponding energy, how will this man’s way lead throug the American reality, the ouvert and the unconscious one?
The conundrum of the Donald is played by a pragmatic heart in a royal person.
Too deep in the depth of the American nation, I fear, lies the respect for the native keepers of the continent’s true spirit.
Russia has it’s unimpaired native nations, the MOD, of buddhist descent, is one of them – spiritualy and morally a gross strategical virtue on the planet,
with America and her unhealed trauma in the depth, due to courteously abiding.
Cheers, Bro
Excellent points. We in the US should know and appreciate this.
But in fairness, people here are relentless levelers in popular speech. President Eisenhower was — even in his campaign posters — “Ike.” Johnson was “LBJ,” George W. Bush was “Dubya” (“W” in back country dialect), and so on. It is a kind of refusal to put important people up on a linguistic pedestal, as if they did not also put their trousers on one leg at a time.
Different mentality.
If you want intentional disrespect, “Killery,” “O’bummer / O’bomber / O’bominable” . . .
A very funny video, a great video, you’ll see. Watch it.
k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-xxis7hDOE&app=desktop
Thanks for the article, SanctuaryOne and the video, kinterra. Really enjoyed both.
That was totally hilarious Kinterra.
There’s hope for a country that can still broadcast non-PC humour – and grow the greatest tulips in the world!
Fantastic!
I once heard someone refer to Wayne Madsen as a CIA mouthpiece, and I didn’t believe it. With this commentary on Canada, I am changing my opinion. It seems Trudeau is not a target of the Globalists and neocons, he is aiding and abetting them, and sabotaging Trump.
“Globalists/Neocons Prepare to Battle Russia and United States”
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/01/24/globalists-neocons-prepare-battle-russia-and-united-states.html
“With Ottawa becoming a center for anti-Trump and anti-Russia activities, the world can expect a chill to set in between Canada and the United States. If Trump begins to view Canada as a source for anti-Trump operations, the U.S. border with Mexico may not be the only flashpoint in North American politics.”
—
You know, I thought for sure that Schwarzman was a typical predator, repping the Wall Street banks, to further financialize all of Canada, for the sake of American greatness. How long have we been building to this moment?? It’s like a boil that’s been growing and growing, and now is finally being lanced. That’s the positive part of the process, I thought. After years of careful build-up, finally, someone is pulling the trigger, getting things in motion. (That was just how it looked to me – it’s Clinton/Goldman Sachs, Part 2)
However – Schwarzman does seem to be an independent, both in his thinking and in his network. Personally, I’m actually inclined, at first glance, to believe he’s not a front man for the big banks. And that he is giving his honest assessment on US/Canada trade. So who is behind all the sabotage and what do they want? Maybe this message is from the actual Wall Street banks, who do just want to financialize Canada?
Beijing to Trump: We’ll Protect South China Sea Sovereignty
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201701241049972735-beijing-to-trump-protect-sea/
“Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying issued a warning to the new White House administration that Washington “is not a party to the South China Sea dispute,” even though the US Navy maintains a significant presence in the global trade hub.
“No matter what changes happen in other countries, what they say or what they do, China’s resolve to protect its sovereignty and maritime rights in the South China Sea will not change,” Hua added.
On Tuesday, Lu Kang, a senior Chinese Foreign Ministry official, said there “might” be a difference of opinion over who has rights to the islands and waters of the South China Sea, “but that’s not for the United States” to determine alone. Refuting Spicer’s remarks, Lu told NBC News on Tuesday “that’s not international territory, that’s Chinese territory,” adding that China has the right to build whatever it wants on what it considers to be its own territory.”
The Chinese are not bluffing. They don’t need to.
China is Building a Navy to Displace, Not Defeat the US in Asia
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2017/01/china-is-building-navy-to-displace-not.html?m=1
“However, if China’s ambitions are not to overwhelm or compete with America’s global fleet, and merely deter and ultimately displace America’s presence in Asia Pacific, its current fleet is already adequate. Analysts point out that when China’s naval assets are operated near Chinese shores, land-based weapon systems including land-based aircraft significantly tip the balance of military power in Beijing’s favour.
And while analysts, politicians and demagogues alike attempt to accuse China of building up its forces in what will result in full-scale war between Beijing and the West, the reality is that war will only unfold if the West fails to gracefully concede the end of its “age of empires,” and its unwarranted influence it has maintained quite literally an ocean away from its shores, in Asia Pacific.
Beyond America’s waning military presence in the region, many of what Washington has called its “allies” have recently shown signs of shifting economically and even militarily toward Beijing. This is the result of not China’s growing military might, but its expanding economic influence, as well as its differing style of diplomacy relative to Washington’s.
China brings its neighbours trains and other infrastructure and investment opportunities, the US brings NGOs and colour revolutions.
Where the US has pursued a foreign policy in Asia Pacific based on “nation building” either through direct military intervention and occupation, various methods of coercion or through the use of its immense number of nongovernmental organisations used to build parallel institutions within allied nations to then displace existing governments and replace them with more pliant regimes, Beijing has focused more on cutting economic and immense infrastructure deals, regardless of who is in power.
China does not operate media organisations propagating political agitation within neighbouring states as the US does throughout Asia Pacific, nor does it play a role in supporting or opposing political parties in neighbouring states as the US does. In other words, no matter how beneficial a relationship with the US may seem to Asian Pacific states, the spectre of subversion always looms overhead, where with dealings with Beijing, it does not.
It is ironic then, that despite America’s military might, it is its own, fundamentally backwards methods of diplomacy, a throwback to European colonialism, that has undone its power and influence in Asia Pacific. But then again, had the US not pursued a foreign policy based on extraterritorial expansion throughout Asia Pacific, it wouldn’t need power and influence in Asia Pacific beyond the boundaries of Westphalian sovereignty to begin with.
China’s naval forces then, are not intended to sail across the Pacific and project Beijing’s influence upon the people of North and South America. It is intended to deter and eventually displace American forces in Asia. In many ways, China’s strategy is already working and in time, it will inevitably succeed.
America’s presence in Asia Pacific, like all imperial powers before it attempting to project influence thousands of kilometres from their own shores, finds itself in an untenable, unsustainable position. Even without a push, this precarious balancing act must eventually come to an end. China’s burgeoning naval fleet, however, will provide a sufficient push to ensure it does sooner than later, and on Beijing’s terms.”
Kaspersky Lab Top Manager Arrested Over Treason Charges – Reports
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201701251049979058-kaspersky-lab-manager-arrested-treason/
“Stoyanov is said to have actively cooperated with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and his arrest may be linked to arrest of one of the FSB department heads, the Kommersant newspaper reported citing a source close to FSB.
Both Stoyanov and the FSB employee were arrested in December. Details of the case remain unknown.
Kaspersky Lab confirmed Stoyanov’s arrest but pointed out that the investigation was being carried out against him as a private person with the company not being involved in the criminal case.”
Who were those two working for?
Who were they working for?
Intriguing, isn’t it. I have a hunch, based on nothing other than my own musings, that they were busy white anting in the basement – and then there was all this loud, crazy unsubstantiated “Russians-russians-Russians”. VVP dismissed it all as nonsense again and again. But all,the noise would have prompted him to have instigated a very deep and methodical forensic examination – and voila – the spotlight has found some cockroaches who were not quick enough to hide !!!
I spent the night with visions of soulless (perfect term, thx Ramin Mazaheri!) corporate raiders appearing at the door, spreadsheets and algorithms in hand, ready to Make Canada Greece, I mean, Great… Again. Greater than the last time they made us great. Or they are saving us from the imminent Russian invasion? It’s all a bit hazy.
If a tentative assumption is made that Schwarzman is not a raider, (not anymore, anyway), then the next logical step seems to be that we (Canadian people) should maybe talk to him. You know, those who are capable of more charm than I am at the moment. :-) Since political representation is somewhat less than optimal right now, maybe Leftists and Conservatives should offer their views to him directly? Just a thought.
Dennis … very good post about moderation and the difficulties that we all face.. I have forwarded your post to Saker plus saved off a copy for all the mods to read.
Thanks for contributions … mod-hs
Thanks for your honesty and forthright courage. The ball is now clearly in the Saker’s hands. He has the next move if he chooses to exercise it.
Shortly before dawn, on my morning walk, Southern California I noticed the waning moon just above the eastern zone of Horus.
I know very little about astrology (where my mental instruments remain crude, unrefined, or perhaps rusted, atrophied, assuming we are all born with some such instrumentation…..?? Mundo??…) but I have been paying more attention to local astronomy (the moon) ever since studying its symbology in ancient religions, and even Christianity, and Islam. = Holy Spirit = Sacred Feminine = right hemisphere brain function = The Goddess and all that………….
This was about 5:40 am. I knew it would climb up during the day and set in the west. As I had my coffee indoors and the sky brightened, as dawn drew nearer, I mulled over how early the previous morning it had been higher up at the same time, but would fall back toward the eastern Horus Zone a bit. It was already thin enoughTuesday morning that I wondered if it would disappear Wednesday morning. It hadn’t, but now it is SO thin, I will wager it is gone from sight Thursday at down, perhaps just to the side of the rising sun.
Returning from driving a teenager to school for 7 am class, I couldn’t see the moon, although I knew it was there. I stopped the car and got out. After a few minutes I finally spotted it, there, ever so faint and thin, at about 11:30 in the sky by clock orientation but 7 am local time.
Soon it will be lost in brightness (if it isn’t already, 40 minutes later) and precede the sun in setting in the west. A day or two or three later it will be seen in the western twilight sky again, a thin sliver of waxing moon, falling a little further east every sunset/twilight and growing fuller and fuller.
I was excited about the new post by Anwar Khan when I went to bed Tuesday night.
I think some western modernists/technically oriented folk and commentors there err, by not considering the Trivium and Quadrivium more openly and seriously.
When Dennis speaks of “communal sex” he, and almost all of the rest of us get no further than “Grammar” ….Or vocabulary, or the words, if you will.
“Logic?” He sees so much he will never give it up. Most of the rest of us see almost none!
And then, when it gets to the “Rhetoric” of the Bower, the Love Army, etc there (I observe, somewhat humorously….) is general disbelief, outrage, disgust, amazement, amusement, mixed with about 1% sympathy and agreement.
Now, to apply the Quadrivium to the Communal Conundrum:
Four Paths to Truth. I don’t practice this consciously and rigorously every day and in everything I think about, but I am aware of the methodology and do use it a bit.
Today is the day to try it out with more deliberation and steadfastness.
The first Vium (Way, Path) of the 4 (Quad) is Arithmetic. For without Number, Quantity is impossible to compare or measure.
The second Vium is Geometry. Without Geometry, Form cannot be rigorously considered. And notice that number or quantity is a prerequisite to utilizing Geometry or Form.
The third Vium is Music!!!! Without Aritmetic and Geometry there can be no real music. Just noise.
And lastly the 4th Vium is where I started off in this comment: Astronomy.
And, without Arithmetic, Geometry and Music (think Kepler’s The Harmony of The Spheres) there is no Astronomy.
And without Astronomy, we don’t even know where we are.
Which is HERE: https://youtu.be/timV0VNBKNk
I have a rough notion as to how I would apply Trivium/Quadrivium to the Communal Conundrum, but I have to go take a shower now. Someone else can make the first attempt. Have fun!!
“Four Paths to Truth”
in my ( and the arabic) vision quaternary is the “socket” of the four elements which on the mythical level of the twelve zodiacal signs appears on three floors: elementary- soul – spiritual, with the soul as medium between element and spirit – hence the medium = the sun = has the majesty of all three floors.
You might get a sense, that with a versatility within the neatly discerned basic symbold, you can gladly sail within the six upper houses of meaning, asking to be mirrored by the six lower houses of matter.
It’s the Pauli-Jung theme of the mirror.
Things are hotting up.
Intriguing report on how the .01% are prepping for imminent social collapse – by ensuring the families of pilots hired to fly them to their havens are also aboard the getaway plane:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/01/johnson-elites-eying-exits-signals-americas-crisis.html
Amazing.
All that money – and the leisure that comes with it – and these snowflakes use none of it to aquire self sufficient skills.
a “quiet’ warning to the Ukraine to be beholden to Minsk>>>>>
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“The Ministry of Defense of Russia is proposing to strengthen the army group deployed in the Southern Military District due to the situation in the South-East of Ukraine and the threat of international terrorism. This was announced on Wednesday, January 25th, by Defense Minister and Army General Sergey Shoigu.
According to Shoigu, the military-political situation in the strategic southwestern direction remains unstable. “[This area] can be negatively impacted first and foremost by the situation in the South-East of Ukraine and the operations of international terrorist organizations and groupings in the North Caucasus,” Shoigu said at a meeting of the Ministry of Defense.
Under these circumstances, according to Shoigu: “It is necessary to continue work on improving the combat troops of the district, recruit contract servicemen, equip troops with new armaments and military vehicles, as well as develop military infrastructure.”
According to the minister, over the last year “the combat capacity of the district has been increased by 10%.”
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/russian-defense-ministry-calls-for-more.html
@ Bro 93
You are amazing. You give me so many direct and backhanded compliments. If anyone has helped me stay in the game, it’s you.
I wrote a piece at the article you refer to. You won’t like it. But it illustrates the problem of philosophy in a God Almighty world.
My cosmology starts with number, time and space, three columns on the left. Form or mass is in the middle. The right columns are life (energy), light and sound. There are seven levels of these cards (or chips) which are integrated into a wild card (Joy), holy card (sacred sphere) and high card (love).
Our original mind worked with metaphor and stories with logic ingrained. Anwar’s logic builds on that original consciousness but has incorporated much patriarchy.
Do I need to say that this is my opinion based on my reading and experience? Do I need to say that I disclose my all too human frailties? Do I need to say that I deeply appreciate you personally and as a stand-in for everyone here? If I do, consider it done.
Your description of the moon’s passage is beautiful. I am not too far from you so will look for her in the days to come. When I see the moon and stars I feel connected to something very wonderful. That feeling can be logically and poetically interpreted and should be. It connects me to you, mundomaniac and all here.
I never forget that the background to all this beauty is the ugly face of war which is the reason for this vineyard’s existence. It should be no surprise that the war goes on here and in every person, if I can judge truly by my own experience. Facing that evil within can be a terrifying event and I would not attempt it without the protection of love.
There’s a song I love which I will incorporate into my new video series “Sex Tarot,” which if known would drive certain persons here not to be named crazy. It’s “I’ll be a Fool for you” by James Carr and Betty Harris. I’d link it but I don’t know how. It kind of reveals how I feel about love, or as I prefer, The Lover.
Expecting incoming “friendly fire” from numerous commentor mortal shells, you force me to move and give up my semi-fortified position for the hazards of open ground. I’ll be zig-zagging across the Southland, head low, until the coast is clear.
This is the comment to draw friendly fire
And fierce Vineyard partisan righteous ire:
“You give me so many direct and backhanded compliments. If anyone has helped me stay in the game, it’s you.”
Do you realize how many guerilla warriors that will annoy? Scores of them that thought you were down for the Ten Count, for violating the Tenth Commandment: “Don’t Screw Around!”
They were within seconds of blind-siding your prostrate collapsed carcass and applying an unremovable male chastity belt. I was in the rear of that same unit sent to dispatch you, but I tired and lagged behind and got lost. And forgot what the mission was.
Lord (Mars) forgive me for I have f’ed up. I have violated the # 1 rule of war: Spare only women and children. and # 2 : Impale the men that are breathing but not moving with bayonet to save bullets.
OK, OK. I confess! I have no idea what the Tenth Commandment is.
Nevertheless, I feel prayer is needed, then flight. I’m outta here. Somewhere between the killing and the loving fields, I seek refuge in the Divine Comedy:
http://www.worldofdante.org/pop_up_query.php?dbid=I135&show=more
Until the left coast is clear. In Limbo with The Deadly Poets
Oh! What’s this?
Some of them are spinning verse. I see some peace and poetry in the Vineyard. Then I shall return. After lunch. The world of Matter keeps interfering with my loftier, more celestial nature. And That’s the Matter, amidst all this clatter. No, not Mater Dei. 2 ts
Sorry for nothing but a couple of cowardly couplets in the chaos and confusion. I have confidence that others are drawing careful aim, (Is that Cupid, or Dionysuss???)…………So I WILL. I will definetly regroup, After having my sandwich and soup.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Saker, —–whatever it takes, whatever works for you.
I feel a sense of urgency since my fate may be hanging in the balance with the Saker and his health.
I’d like to post this poem written many years ago. It has to do with the conjunction of number (6) with the Tarot card (VIII) Strength in the Love Government system. It is the Six of Number with the polarities of Beauty and the Beast.
My posting it now is inspired by Bro’s reflections on the beauty of the moon and his delving into the deeper layers of number. In love’s calendar we just entered week six of the natural year. The poem ends with a reference to God creating man on the sixth day; I revise that to Love making womam. God is pleased. The structure is a house of cards in which a journey is undertaken. Multiple metaphors for the multi-dimensional mind.
I go from room to room, sun to moon, April to June and tune to tune
In the procession of this temple’s progression
I go to confession before solemn profession
On level number six of this holy house
I make my vow to beauty now
I heard the story of Beauty and Beast
I know the moral of wanting most what I need least
I never put hope in the princess or her toad
Never smoked the beast of dope
Or stole his silver and gold
I’m betting on beauty that’s more than skin deep
On a lover whose promises keep
The beast disguised as beauty
Makes people objects and lies with beauty products
The beast is king of the road
He builds up lines for the goods that are sold
Oh, you beautiful dreamer
You’re a sweet schemer
Can’t get taken in by your beautiful lies
Must see the heart through true beauty’s eyes
There’s a thousand ways I’ve gone wrong
A million times I’ve forgotten my song
But I’m back on track until I stop at the top
You’ve brought me this high so I don’t see why
The sky’s the limit when your beauty’s in it
Beauty’s true circle is six times six and zero
Six and six and six is the beast of Roman Nero
Ten times six counts the minutes for you
Six times ten minutes make up your hours too
Even the six sided snowflake surrenders her due
And the bee builds her house in honor of you
Your beauty is my great attraction
Your loveliness is my mate satisfaction
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Your beautiful eye makes me bolder
I am aware of a beauty beyond compare
My heart and soul melt when your beauty is felt
Six is the number of your beauty’s symmetry
The model of the world’s mimicry
You thrill my heart next to me
Take away my breath with ecstasy
Beauty is beyond words of mine
Resides in the play of worlds that shine
Love made beauty as it were
Just to show her loving coeur
On the sixth day she made her
but not in the morning but in the afternoon
after Adam tried to find the right names …
so much beauty and bless in your poetry,
there might be a necessity for some crap
keep well
I feel a sense of urgency since my fate may be hanging in the balance with the Saker and his health.
Jeez Denis, get a grip, will ya?
The Saker just has the flu.
Your ‘fate’ is not ‘hanging in the balance’ due to this latest bout, anymore than it did before. Seriously, if you were a total troll, you would have been booted off years ago.
Just roll with the punches when you deservedly get them (I’ve already said why I think you needed a ‘good clip about the earhole’ so not repeating here)
Recommend some fresh air, walks etc and perhaps – at the risk of being ‘inappropriate’ – more regular communication with your son. The last time you seemed to get ‘the shivers’, you were restored after contacting him.
Too much isolation is bad for the soul. It creates imaginary fears and amplifies minor issues.
Keep a firm foot in the land of the living.
Meanwhile, enjoy your Brother-in-arms supportive posts and don’t take your comment glitches ( they happen to me too, as with others I’m sure) so personally.
Let’s face it, none of us Vineyard ‘rabble’ are *that* ‘important ;-)
Mundo doesn’t know what will happen, but he knows the calendar of the heaven above us
and the unconsciousness and the symbols, meeting us in dreams.
This week you can attend “Mars Returning Home back into the Wilderness of the Individual”
and muse about what that means as each one of us has a Mars for completeness by beginning and not waiting for anyone else to follow.
Cheers
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2017/01/1_22.html
per Mundanomania: And mercury as a sacred child, not a scared one like those screamers and thrashers in vain protest, nor a scarred one weeping in deserted despair:
“something like refueling the brain three times
with collective patterns
concerning heart and reason “
Before the closing bells in this Cafe, I would like to ask Earthrise to come back, his honest thoughts have a place here, his talent and style I very much miss. At the same time, I also miss Uncle Bob 1, with his excellent, “cool” and well judged comments. I’m sure that I’m not the only one who is missing them.
true, but maybe a break, for growth and digestion of
before new offerings at the screen
very good wishes to both of you
I don’t mean to be a pessimist (@ mundo and talk to cats).
I am trying to be awake to the plays and strategies on the grand chessboard. I wanted to believe that DT was a true populist, and he certainly is refreshing after 8 years of faux liberalism. But I have to say that I smell a rat. I always pray that I am wrong!!
k
I wonder what folks think of this video?
Why is Trump surrounded by all those Ashkenazi Jews? – RS
Video (24 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcd-yvudYSg
kinterra
as for the Ashkenazi Jews around him:
to me a true sign of his excellence
after the third volume I’m now studying the first vol. of
https://www.amazon.de/People-That-Shall-Dwell-Alone/dp/B01K3NUTAE/ref=la_B001H6UIUS_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1485384542&sr=1-3
by Prof. Kevin McDonnald. My senseing has become,
Ashkenasen or Sepharden, the evil fostered
with Jews is to be confined only with Jews.
No one of us knows the deeper rifts between them.
Your post is ponderous, as is the book- I, unfortunately, do not read German. I am always open to learn some thing new.
k
Your post is ponderous, as is the book- I, unfortunately, do not read German. I am always open to learn some thing new. Can you share some things you think we should know?
k
I second ioan regarding earthrise (Toughen up, mate! Rugby’s a rough game. Although it is safer than sex, what with child support laws and all……..) and Uncle Bob.
But what about Tony Opmoc? I feel personally guilty for his departure. And I am missing all the updates on his wife’s leg, the local pub scene and the rock concerts.
Diana was a really nice lady too, but planning to marry Dodi was a fatal no-no with Lizzie and Phil, those old NAZIs.
Anyway, maybe the damage is already done, no use crying over spilt ale, we do have to stop the Empire, so I am done with the lame (my humor attempts, not tony’s wife) so here goes some heavy political artillery:
“There are many who have doubted Lyndon LaRouche over these past 50 years in his warning that the British Empire was still alive, and still dedicated to crushing the American System of Alexander Hamilton, John Quincy Adams, Abe Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt. But today those doubts have been proven to be most foolish, as the imperial lords of the City of London and the British Monarchy have declared themselves, proudly, to be intent on destroying any effort to restore the American System in their former colony.
The Obama years had proven to be the total take over of the US government by the British System.
The “free trade” model of the British, which America’s Founding Fathers had fought a revolution to escape, had succeeded in eliminating all of the Franklin Roosevelt regulations and restraints on Wall Street, creating a speculative bubble reaching into the mega-trillions of dollars.
The British opium war on China was superseded in evil by the British and Wall Street banks’ “Dope, Inc.,” creating the worst drug epidemic in U.S. history, while Obama refused to jail the bankers responsible for either the financial crash or the drug money laundering, and openly promoted drug legalization.
Industry was dismantled under the guise of “free trade” and the hoax that carbon was destroying the planet, all sponsored by Prince Philip’s World Wildlife Fund and related green fanatics.
Space exploration and the scientific development of nuclear and fusion power were destroyed under the same British imperial model of forced backwardness.
Perpetual, colonial warfare has been waged against nations that were no threat to the U.S., but were considered too close to Russia or China, using the British/Saudi funded terror networks to remove governments by force, and leaving behind a state of barbarism under warring terrorist factions.
Obama and his British sponsors prepared for war with Russia and China, with a massive military encirclement of both Eurasian nations.
The threat to this British control over the U.S. represented by the defeat of the Obama/Hillary evil in November has now forced the British to come out into the open, willing to kill to stop any chance that the Trump Administration can restore sanity. They must be stopped, and the British System destroyed, if civilization is to survive this crisis.
Look at the past months:
It is now known that the entire hysterical campaign to portray Donald Trump as a Russian tool was run by the MI6 agent Christopher Steele, who fabricated a document so absurd that even the British assets within the US intelligence community had to admit that they could not confirm any of it, despite the fact that they leaked it to the public.
The London Spectator published an article by a BBC journalist Paul Wood on Jan. 21 titled “Will Donald Trump be assassinated, ousted in a coup or just impeached?” It must be remembered that American presidents who have stood up against the British Empire have a tradition of being killed, by the British, throughout U.S. history — Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy.
and the rest, here:
https://larouchepac.com/20170124/time-now-destroy-british-empire-once-and-all
Especially the Trojan Soros Horse Steven Mnuchin……because no Full restoration of Glass Steagall means no recovery, means falling out of temporary reprieve back into the dynamic of chaos, then WAR.
“British System” = Mystery Babylon.
(By way of [thank you, Lyndon] Venice.