“the territory reincorporated into Russia could remain under Ukrainian attack for many years, at least as long as Washington supplies weapons. Possibly Washington has succeeded in creating a long-lived Vietnam-type situation for Russia”
This would be the biggest Christmas gift Russia would ever receive if the US and the West are this stupid. This was the neocon dream that is fast becoming a political nightmare for NATO/West/US, in order to do the above you would need a viable Ukraine state functioning and able to produce fighting men, as can be seen the Ukrainian elite and military have a voracious appetite for both billions in hard currency as well as billions in weapons among other appetites.
The dumbest place to fight a war against Russia is on their doorstep, this is all on their terms, a bad way to fight.
The US/West/NATO will be lucky to have this thing hold together for 6 more months and after that Europe is going to have a major problem on its hands if they don’t negotiate before then.
Putin has no intention of occupying Kiev/Western Ukraine but he is just going to keep destroying their infrastructure until the US/West/NATO do an about face and flee the region for a very long while.
I am not sure how many of you saw the Whitehouse journalist briefing today where Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby spoke about the Wagner army and Russia Ukraine (NATO) conflict. You needed to see this to understand why the US government is extremely incompetent. Kirby responded to journalist questions like a child who is caught stealing candy. Now the journalists were just as bad sitting there, in some cases with eyes rolling, in disbelief at his responses. Kirby gave a list of weapons US is sending Ukraine but he blamed North Korea for selling weapons to Russia. This bumbler exposed a world of corruption and the so-called journalist sat there like fungus on a log without challenging him. From what he said you can tell the scale of incompetence in the American press by how arms manufacturers and defence contractors are able to convince both parties to give them trillions of dollars for little to no benefit for the American people.
Nonsense – you are looking at decisions from your perspective as to what the objectives should be – immediate vs long term which has nothing to do with the guys taking the risk – Putin et al – they have a matrix of objectives and depending on the game board at any point in time they switch direction –
Washington however is one way – and everyone sees it they only want the 11 time zones of $100 Trillion Plus undeveloped reserves of countless resources – so they can kill everyone and destroy everything including the Eu – which is …..essentially Germany.
Two different plains of logic – which means the Russians will switch at some provocation red line to destroy something like London – which has been proved with the Bridge and the Pipeline to be deserving – sooner or later.
the logistics of Russian are vastly different than NATO – so competing is difficult for NATO – further no one wants to die for Ukraine except for men as children.
This is closer to the end now, than any nonsense about ten year duration
Russia has both conventional and nuclear weapon capabilities that could end this SMO/war tomorrow. Why they don’t end it is a mystery to many of us. To allow the continuation as is with out a decisive victory and allow the western governments to continue their money laundering scheme is criminal.
Russia has paid a very small price while incorporating Luhansk, Donetsk, Zap and Kherson into the Russian Federation, and by the way, whose Crimea is it? Ha-ha-ha ! Nikolaev and Odessa to follow..
Why use the heavy, expensive stuff when a cheap drone with a Moped motor will do?
Maybe your ideas don’t match with those of the Russian Government.
Militarily and economically, I see only one winner.
The Ukrainian people are not the enemy. It’s obvious that Russians care dearly for them unlike the satanic American political-elite class who will sacrifice every Ukranian to achieve their ends.
No mystery seen here. Time is on Russia’s side and hangs in the balance, while the west’s is slipping away like grains of sand in an hourglass. Along with their economies.
Despite the military superiority at his disposal, (Francisco Franco) made poor operational choices, giving the Republicans the opportunity to carry out desperate counterattacks, prolonging, in this way, the war by at least two years.
Then recently, historical research revealed that these “wrong choices” were made knowingly in order to exhaust the human potential of Republicans…. Franco wanted a long war to destroy the demographic pool of the Republicans and thus “cleanse” the conquered regions of populations favorable to the regime in place.
He said it explicitly in an interview: “In a civil war, it is better to systematically occupy the territory, accompanied by the necessary cleansing, than a rapid rout of the enemy armies that would leave the country infested with adversaries.”
+ why using new and advanced weapons before the time. Russia will need all this if nato steps in in in more aggressive way ( aka direct confrontation). Makes absolute sense from tactical perspective :)
“Putin’s restraint in the use of force has possibly made it impossible for the Kremlin to end the conflict with a Russian victory” Pure FUD.
“In the eight months that Putin has wasted,” Wasted? LOL. So in eight months the Ukie military is decimated, thousands of armoured units blown up, air defenses totally gone, NATO weapon stocks dangerously low, Western economies fragile and teetering on collapse, Western governments at risk of mass unrest from their plebs, Russia’s revenues and currency stronger than before the SMO, the four most productive provinces returned to mother. But to you this was a waste of eight months?
“Washington has revised its policy governing the use of nuclear weapons” Rubbish, the US has always given itself the ‘right’ to first strike with nuclear weapons. Nowt new at all.
I think many are missing its not a ukraine SMO its a worldwide event. It actually military economic and spiritual. Average guys like me, all over the world are cheering z for many reasons. Countering ZOG offering a choice between WEF bug life and kiddy trans for a solid family future. Whatever reasons the spiritual support is underrated.
Russia is “a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma” so trying to discern Russia’s tactics or motivations is a waste of time. All that can be said is that Russia is so big with so many resources at her disposal that Russia will prevail eventually, even against the whole of NATO.
The now stated American intent of using nukes against non-nuclear countries is just a reflection of how bad the Western military has become. Because their woke LGBT military would suffer too many casualties against even Third World countries, America now has no choice but to use nukes to keep the upper hand.
And as Ukraine is most definitely inside Russia’s sphere of influence, the Ukraine having been part of the Soviet Union, there is no problem whatsoever with killing Americans in Ukraine. It will take the Yanks at least 6 months to get hardware in meaningful numbers to Europe, if indeed the US thinks it is capable of fighting Russia in a conventional manner, so Russia has a very free hand in Ukraine until then.
These “experts” who think they can advise Russia need to use a little brainpower and let us follow the real action. Slow and sure is HELPING Russia and the longer time will allow the West gradually to understand their predicament. Try the duran, or garland nixon, or brian berletic for more sense than you show now.
The pentagon can write in their doctrine whatever they want.
The only reason they didn’t use nuclear weapons against Russia is because Russia has more and mightier. Russia can erase US from the face of the Earth if attacked.
Some words in a doctrine does not cuente that simple fact.
The “pro western” side of the politics in Russia flied west months ago, they don’t have economic support since it was illegal, and even the pro western oligarch were punished by sanctions so they have less power and even less will to act.
Just check Tinkov, where is he now? In the west, with his business exprópiate. Ciao ciao go any power
In the meanwhile EEUU and the EU are burning hundred thousand millions in Ukraine.
And they will burn even more.
The sanctions push the reindustrialisation of Russia
This approach of Putin is indeed genius.
Yes, the population in the wesg perceive him as weak. But who cares, soon they are gonna perceive weak their bank accounts
Good points. That money doesn’t grow on trees will be a hard and cold lesson for EU dissenters and many others. But it does keep people alive with their coal fires burning.
“Possibly Washington has succeeded in creating a long-lived Vietnam-type situation for Russia. ”
So the retards who can’t keep their own economy supplied with enough diesel to keep it running are going to manage to run a decade-long proxy war on the other side of the planet?
Impressive !
Technical data provided is useful for arguing with defenders of The Empire. Thanks.
To the contrary, Russia is fighting out of its own backyard. It would be the West’s Vietnam.
“the territory reincorporated into Russia could remain under Ukrainian attack for many years, at least as long as Washington supplies weapons. Possibly Washington has succeeded in creating a long-lived Vietnam-type situation for Russia”
This would be the biggest Christmas gift Russia would ever receive if the US and the West are this stupid. This was the neocon dream that is fast becoming a political nightmare for NATO/West/US, in order to do the above you would need a viable Ukraine state functioning and able to produce fighting men, as can be seen the Ukrainian elite and military have a voracious appetite for both billions in hard currency as well as billions in weapons among other appetites.
The dumbest place to fight a war against Russia is on their doorstep, this is all on their terms, a bad way to fight.
The US/West/NATO will be lucky to have this thing hold together for 6 more months and after that Europe is going to have a major problem on its hands if they don’t negotiate before then.
Putin has no intention of occupying Kiev/Western Ukraine but he is just going to keep destroying their infrastructure until the US/West/NATO do an about face and flee the region for a very long while.
Going forward it looks like the EU will have problems making even broomsticks for their witches.
I am not sure how many of you saw the Whitehouse journalist briefing today where Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby spoke about the Wagner army and Russia Ukraine (NATO) conflict. You needed to see this to understand why the US government is extremely incompetent. Kirby responded to journalist questions like a child who is caught stealing candy. Now the journalists were just as bad sitting there, in some cases with eyes rolling, in disbelief at his responses. Kirby gave a list of weapons US is sending Ukraine but he blamed North Korea for selling weapons to Russia. This bumbler exposed a world of corruption and the so-called journalist sat there like fungus on a log without challenging him. From what he said you can tell the scale of incompetence in the American press by how arms manufacturers and defence contractors are able to convince both parties to give them trillions of dollars for little to no benefit for the American people.
Nonsense – you are looking at decisions from your perspective as to what the objectives should be – immediate vs long term which has nothing to do with the guys taking the risk – Putin et al – they have a matrix of objectives and depending on the game board at any point in time they switch direction –
Washington however is one way – and everyone sees it they only want the 11 time zones of $100 Trillion Plus undeveloped reserves of countless resources – so they can kill everyone and destroy everything including the Eu – which is …..essentially Germany.
Two different plains of logic – which means the Russians will switch at some provocation red line to destroy something like London – which has been proved with the Bridge and the Pipeline to be deserving – sooner or later.
the logistics of Russian are vastly different than NATO – so competing is difficult for NATO – further no one wants to die for Ukraine except for men as children.
This is closer to the end now, than any nonsense about ten year duration
“Destroy London” might be overreacting. A small explosion at the Thames Barrier when the tide is unusually high would dampen Westminster.
Russia has both conventional and nuclear weapon capabilities that could end this SMO/war tomorrow. Why they don’t end it is a mystery to many of us. To allow the continuation as is with out a decisive victory and allow the western governments to continue their money laundering scheme is criminal.
Russia has paid a very small price while incorporating Luhansk, Donetsk, Zap and Kherson into the Russian Federation, and by the way, whose Crimea is it? Ha-ha-ha ! Nikolaev and Odessa to follow..
Why use the heavy, expensive stuff when a cheap drone with a Moped motor will do?
Skippy, when did you receive your 5 stars?
Maybe your ideas don’t match with those of the Russian Government.
Militarily and economically, I see only one winner.
The Ukrainian people are not the enemy. It’s obvious that Russians care dearly for them unlike the satanic American political-elite class who will sacrifice every Ukranian to achieve their ends.
Nah, not a mystery to us at all. If one pays attention to events there are no mysteries.
No mystery seen here. Time is on Russia’s side and hangs in the balance, while the west’s is slipping away like grains of sand in an hourglass. Along with their economies.
No one fights for free.
Despite the military superiority at his disposal, (Francisco Franco) made poor operational choices, giving the Republicans the opportunity to carry out desperate counterattacks, prolonging, in this way, the war by at least two years.
Then recently, historical research revealed that these “wrong choices” were made knowingly in order to exhaust the human potential of Republicans…. Franco wanted a long war to destroy the demographic pool of the Republicans and thus “cleanse” the conquered regions of populations favorable to the regime in place.
He said it explicitly in an interview: “In a civil war, it is better to systematically occupy the territory, accompanied by the necessary cleansing, than a rapid rout of the enemy armies that would leave the country infested with adversaries.”
https://www.thepostil.com/what-ukraine-tells-us-about-the-coming-war/
+ why using new and advanced weapons before the time. Russia will need all this if nato steps in in in more aggressive way ( aka direct confrontation). Makes absolute sense from tactical perspective :)
“Putin’s restraint in the use of force has possibly made it impossible for the Kremlin to end the conflict with a Russian victory” Pure FUD.
“In the eight months that Putin has wasted,” Wasted? LOL. So in eight months the Ukie military is decimated, thousands of armoured units blown up, air defenses totally gone, NATO weapon stocks dangerously low, Western economies fragile and teetering on collapse, Western governments at risk of mass unrest from their plebs, Russia’s revenues and currency stronger than before the SMO, the four most productive provinces returned to mother. But to you this was a waste of eight months?
“Washington has revised its policy governing the use of nuclear weapons” Rubbish, the US has always given itself the ‘right’ to first strike with nuclear weapons. Nowt new at all.
As the US presidents said: All options are on the table. And it’s our table.
Posted by the Secretary of the Right Sector Nazi Party.
Longwinded run-around wishful thinker.
I think many are missing its not a ukraine SMO its a worldwide event. It actually military economic and spiritual. Average guys like me, all over the world are cheering z for many reasons. Countering ZOG offering a choice between WEF bug life and kiddy trans for a solid family future. Whatever reasons the spiritual support is underrated.
thank you @Pabloz for your spiritual radiance and your great wisdom
@WIO –That’s a lot of bull for me to swallow. You’re an armchair General & should be more careful with words.
Russia is “a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma” so trying to discern Russia’s tactics or motivations is a waste of time. All that can be said is that Russia is so big with so many resources at her disposal that Russia will prevail eventually, even against the whole of NATO.
The now stated American intent of using nukes against non-nuclear countries is just a reflection of how bad the Western military has become. Because their woke LGBT military would suffer too many casualties against even Third World countries, America now has no choice but to use nukes to keep the upper hand.
And as Ukraine is most definitely inside Russia’s sphere of influence, the Ukraine having been part of the Soviet Union, there is no problem whatsoever with killing Americans in Ukraine. It will take the Yanks at least 6 months to get hardware in meaningful numbers to Europe, if indeed the US thinks it is capable of fighting Russia in a conventional manner, so Russia has a very free hand in Ukraine until then.
Definitely nobody must tell us the truth!!! Thanks Rumble and Macron!!!
These “experts” who think they can advise Russia need to use a little brainpower and let us follow the real action. Slow and sure is HELPING Russia and the longer time will allow the West gradually to understand their predicament. Try the duran, or garland nixon, or brian berletic for more sense than you show now.
The pentagon can write in their doctrine whatever they want.
The only reason they didn’t use nuclear weapons against Russia is because Russia has more and mightier. Russia can erase US from the face of the Earth if attacked.
Some words in a doctrine does not cuente that simple fact.
The “pro western” side of the politics in Russia flied west months ago, they don’t have economic support since it was illegal, and even the pro western oligarch were punished by sanctions so they have less power and even less will to act.
Just check Tinkov, where is he now? In the west, with his business exprópiate. Ciao ciao go any power
In the meanwhile EEUU and the EU are burning hundred thousand millions in Ukraine.
And they will burn even more.
The sanctions push the reindustrialisation of Russia
This approach of Putin is indeed genius.
Yes, the population in the wesg perceive him as weak. But who cares, soon they are gonna perceive weak their bank accounts
Good points. That money doesn’t grow on trees will be a hard and cold lesson for EU dissenters and many others. But it does keep people alive with their coal fires burning.
“Possibly Washington has succeeded in creating a long-lived Vietnam-type situation for Russia. ”
So the retards who can’t keep their own economy supplied with enough diesel to keep it running are going to manage to run a decade-long proxy war on the other side of the planet?