by James Tweedie for the Saker Blog
On May 8, when Victory in Europe (VE) Day is celebrated in the West, US Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield told CNN that Russia had “nothing to celebrate” on its own Victory Day on May 9.
Her reasoning, faithfully transcribed on the US mission’s website, was that “They have not succeeded in defeating the Ukrainians.”
Given that Victory Day and VE Day both specifically commemorate the allied defeat of Nazi Germany in 1945, Thomas-Greenfield’s comments were like saying the US, Britain and France had nothing to celebrate this year because they got chased out of Afghanistan by the Taliban last August.
The ambassador is either an apologist for Nazism or merely too ignorant to do her job. She should at least read some objective reports about the conflict in the Ukraine.
In fact Russians had two immediate military victories to celebrate that Monday. Russian and Lugansk People’s Republic troops captured the town of Popasna, a lynchpin in the Ukrainian army’s defensive line that it had held for eight years.
Meanwhile Kiev, apparently desperate for a victory of its own to rain on the parade through Moscow’s Red Square, launched an airborne and marine assault on the now-famous Zmeinyy (Snake) Island off the coast of Odessa oblast.
Some sources say the Russians withdrew their small force holding the island as bait for a trap, but either way it went horribly wrong for the Ukrainians. They lost four jet fighters and strike aircraft, up to 10 helicopters, a corvette and three infantry landing craft. More than 60 of their personnel were killed, of which 27 were abandoned on the island.
The Ukraine is like a bull elephant that has been shot right in the heart in mid-charge. The beast keeps on bellowing and rampaging around, not yet realising that it’s already dead.
It becomes clearer by the day that the Ukrainian army attempting to occupy the remains of the Donbass republics, newly recognised by Russia just as the West ‘recognised’ its creations of Kosovo and South Sudan, is dead on its feet.
Its navy, air force, artillery, tanks and transportation are almost destroyed. Its casualties are replaced with boys and old men press-ganged off the streets of Kiev and Lvov, some without proper boots. Its senior officers are fled or dead.
Meanwhile the collective West, dominated as always by the Washington, pours in its hodgepodge of arms that belong in a museum, not on the battlefield. The latest arrivals are the 90 much-vaunted 155mm howitzers donated by the Pentagon — and made in UK, because the US military-industrial complex seemingly can’t produce a simple towed cannon any more.
US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin insisted on April 28 that the artillery pieces would prove “decisive” in the war with Russia. The former Raytheon executive can’t stop speaking in his arms industry sales patter. 90 guns is about what the Ukrainian army is losing every week. What use are they anyway against Russia’s hypersonic missiles, with a range of hundreds of miles and an accuracy radius of seven metres?
Pouring random assortments of arms into a country and expecting it to win against a well-organised and equipped opponent is just as incoherent a strategy as the war of attrition the US waged in Vietnam, or sending a whole army into a frontal assault on a mountain pass defended by a thousand.
Who is going to operate all this stuff if most of the experienced weapon and vehicle crews have become casualties or prisoners? How is it even supposed to get to the front when Russia has air superiority over the country and stand-off weapons that can reach right out to the border with Poland and kill hundreds of foreign mercenaries?
“Ukraine clearly believes it can win and so does everyone here,” Austin told his NATO counterparts at the Rammstein airbase a few days earlier, in a touching display of mass delusion on a US-occupied piece of Germany. “Ukraine needs our help to win today and they will still need our help when the war is over.”
In a pre-recorded virtual address to the Ukrainian parliament on May 3, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson made similar exhortations. “The so-called irresistible force of Putin’s war machine has broken on the immoveable object of Ukrainian patriotism,” Johnson declared triumphantly. “Ukraine will win, Ukraine will be free.”
Kiev is claiming it can rebuild its exhausted, demoralised, bled-white army in the west of the country — or better yet, in NATO-member Poland — and march east in a great wave of self-righteous retribution to reclaim the Donbass and Crimea.
This is accompanied by bizarre fascistic artwork of crusader knights, flying the 30-year-old Ukrainian flag, slaughtering Russian army orcs — literal fantasy role-playing game orcs with the letter ‘Z’ marked on their foreheads. And Western leaders are actually taking this stuff seriously.
Austin believes that fighting this war the last drop of Ukrainian blood will weaken the Russian military enough that it won’t be able to fight another war for years to come. Not so long ago this retired four-star general publicly referred to present-day Russia as the Soviet Union, whether by accident or on purpose we do not know.
Perhaps Austin should read a little history and discover that the USSR lost 27 million human lives in the war against Nazi Germany and its many European fascist allies, all now current or prospective NATO members.
Six million Soviet soldiers and partisans fell on the battlefield. Three million more were murdered by the Nazis as prisoners of war, along with 18 million civilians.
Yet the Soviet Union emerged from that cataclysmic war stronger than ever, as the superpower that counter-balanced the US in the post-war order.
Like Germany in 1945, the Ukraine is marching fanatically towards its terrible Götterdämmerung, leaving a trail of footprints in its own blood. And NATO is standing behind, cheering it on and prolonging the death-agony.
“And NATO is standing behind, cheering it on and prolonging the death-agony.”
When all else fails, destroying the evidence has always been a potential resort, particularly if ascencion to sainthood has been adequately prepared, as was the case with Mr. Guevara and others.
Its better for the US to shut the fk up and start celebrating their moral, social and financial decay into the sht hole they have dug themselves. Russia should add an extra celebration day called “we are not gay like the USA day “.
The US is replacing the current press Secretary Jen Psaki with a LGBTQ plus “person”. So this moral decayed person is going to represent the government of the US. The Pentagon spokesman might as well be be LGTBQ as he feigns tears over the war in Ukraine. You then have the joint chief of the US army Milley going behind the back of the President during the so called US insurrection . He then starts talking about his liberal views! That’s not an army officer, he sounds like a morally decayed politician.
It is just about as bad as it can get in the U.S. There are numerous daily examples of exactly how bad things truly are if one takes the time to look closely. But that topic is for another day. (If you want a hint google endofsentence latest vid).
I just want to state how much I appreciate Lavrov’s recent statement with regard to rumors of sleepless nights becoming a bit of a problem for some in the collective west. His advice to help these insomniacs calm down is to imagine this conflict “is happening in Africa. Imagine this is happening in the middle east. Imagine Ukraine is Palestine. Imagine Russia is the United States.” And I would have added at the end: “Then go back to bed.”
For me, writing is now on the wall – the collective west will not accept defeat in Ukraine.
The question then is: What will it do to defeat Russia? Or much more likely: What won’t it do the defeat Russia?
“The question then is: What will it do to defeat Russia? Or much more likely: What won’t it do the defeat Russia?”
We will have to wait and see, but as you suggest it may well prove to be more than interesting. What we do know is that Russia has the means to respond to all normal military threats. Judging by the number of bio-labs on its borders, Russia is almost certain to be extremely aware of the possibility of a bio-warfare attack. This is perhaps where the main danger lies.
I think a better question is “what will the US do when it gets defeated in a military conflict, as in, pants off, march round the billiard table with their nuts on a platter DEFEATED. That has not happened so far, they have managed to walk away from their losses before they became “defeats”.
John Micheal Greer addresses that scenario in his “Twilights Last Gleaming”. Well worth a read if you can get hold of a copy, he traces a path for such a defeat and its aftermath which I am sure many readers here will find more than a little humorous. Some may remember it from his Archdruid report blog, he has expanded that short narrative into a book length narrative.
Bertrand Russell: “The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.”
The stupidity of so-called ‘supporters’ spouting demented anti-Jewish, anti-Gay, and woman hating bile disgusts me. Anyone who believing these ignorant trolls disgraces a noble fight against goose-stepping morons.
Max Born (November 1960, Bulletin Of The Atomic Scientist): “Should the human race not be extinguished by nuclear war it will degenerate into a flock of stupid, dumb creatures under the tyranny of dictators who rule them with the help of [media cloaca] and … computers. This is not a prophecy but a nightmare.”
Mark Twain: “Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”
In Italy we celebrate the 25th of April, the day US “liberated” our country.
But in reality we have “nothing to celebrate”, since from that date onwards US actually occupied Europe.
At least the Russian have real reasons to celebrate.
To the memory of the British soldiers (and their loved ones) who gave their lives fighting the Nazi and German AF in WW11. Your great sacrifice meant nothing – Boris Johnson
This is the message I read between the lines from Western leaders.
Shameful!
PS Remember, win or lose The Bankers get paid.
“Kiev is claiming it can rebuild its exhausted, demoralized, bled-white army in the west of the country ”
Unfortunately, to my surprise, Ukrainian army is all but demoralized.
@mario2
“Unfortunately, to my surprise, Ukrainian army is all but demoralized”
Have you actually watched an interview with any captured UFA?…. and those are the guys who stuck around rather than deserting.
The current “courage” and “stiff resistance” in the UFA lasts only as long as a “retreat prevention” NCO detached from the Azov Regiment is behind the line with a rifle ready to shoot anyone who takes one step backwards.
That’s not a sign of high morale, it’s a sign of zero morale.
I think all three so-called Baltic countries should be taken over within the next few years. If the Latvians, Lithuanians, and Estonians want to emigrate the “West,” help them to get about it. And, settle those areas with Belarussians and Russians. It’d be interesting to watch how this NATO defend those countries. Stoltenberg would shit in his pants. :)
Finland is nothing, even if it joins NATO or not. It can be subjugated economically, without shooting a single bullet. Just send them few wagon loads of vodka. (joking, really). Sweden is not a problem either. Poland? Well, it would drown itself on Russophobia and bad governing.
Finland is a problem because the have a large trained army as they still have conscription. So they have an organised military that would at least offer resistance as opposed to the Baltics and Sweden for that matter.
Finland is just 5.4 million people, that is about a million men, not including the male children. The standard readiness strength is 34,700 people in uniform, of which 25% are professional soldiers. Of course, women can fight in Finland. And, there’s also a problem of waterways, which goes through Russia to the sea, which can be blocked. No, Finland is not a problem, neither is Sweden.
Sweden, and Norway have conscription just like the Finn’s.
I met many conscripts from all 3 of them at a multinational exercise in Norway.
Last link, to Carl Bildt’s Twitter account. He is no longer a leader, yet he thinks he is. Going the errands of US masters since 90s. A small dog thinking he is a big dog, according to wikileaks. Russia is a popular topic to obsess about to remain relevant and to receive a paycheck, sponsored by tax payers around the world.
He’s a certified member of the Dark side. Been pissing on Serbia for well over 20+ years. Well trained for the game. Likely a bitter closet Natzi.
This is surrealistic. I got the idea that the stupidity of US Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield must be deliberate. Someone must have appointed her in this position to present US as an incredible far out stupid nation.
But then I see Carl Bildt (ex-Swedish FM) with his “art” of ugliness presenting Russians as Orchs, and realize something deeper must be behind.
I can finally only explain it as some kind of confession/adoration to the Liar. These attitudes and statements are too far out to be even a human psychosis.
Well of course she is stupid. You don’t rise in such organisations unless you are 1) a useful idiot ie stupid and/or 2) black- mailable and/or 3) a dyed -in-the-wool fanatic for American interests. If you tick all the right boxes, you will go far, have a massive pay cheque, lots of luxury and as rock group Dire Straits says …your chicks for free.
If you are honest and / or intelligent and/or brave or strong and having some potential for popularity, they will all band together to keep you down and unheard with a view to break you .
But you describe the normal “working class hero” the class game. Under the class game 30-years and below, we had competent people speaking in media and in the higher circles.
I see no one on the western side being able to formulate a rational comment on anything today. The childness and ugliness today is beyond. Maybe we had the same ugly spirit in the 1930’es.
These aren’t the interests of the American public, they’re the interests of the Zionist-dominated banking sector and the Zionist Neocons in the State Department.
Perhaps Austin should read a little history and discover that the USSR lost 27 million human lives in the war against Nazi Germany and its many European fascist allies, all now current or prospective
NATO membersRaytheon customers.There, fixed it.
Even the NYSlimes has capitulated with this headline
“Ukraine War’s Geographic Reality: Russia Has Seized Much of the East”
As for the $50B, please note that a big chunk of these funds goes right into the coffers of the US MIC… that’s the one sector that’s always overflowing with cash.
More like MICIMAST – Military Industrial Complex Intelligence Media Academia Stink Tanks (to paraphrase Ray McGovern).
Even the NYSlimes capitulated with this headline
“Ukraine War’s Geographic Reality: Russia Has Seized Much of the East”
US and European politics is merely a media game. The leadership gets their information from mass media and develops its actions based on media response. There is no room for actual intelligence, economic or political analysis. The only concern is how will the headlines read in the next news cycle. If there is a deeper analysis it is limited to how the individual leader’s financial contributors will respond.
So there never is strategy, only tactics designed for media. Sure, there’s the “strategy” of weakening Russia but in actuality it’s merely an overarching concept. A strategy would have involved replacing Russian resources before trying to cut them off. Instead the announcements precede the details of developing the actuality. So we get all the backtracking, hedging, loopholes, etc because the whole plan was to make the announcement and hope that the details would work out.
The empire of incompetence.
“On May 8, when Victory in Europe (VE) Day is celebrated in the West, US Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield told CNN that Russia had “nothing to celebrate” on its own Victory Day on May 9.
Her reasoning, faithfully transcribed on the US mission’s website, was that “They have not succeeded in defeating the Ukrainians.”
Given that Victory Day and VE Day both specifically commemorate the allied defeat of Nazi Germany in 1945, Thomas-Greenfield’s comments were like saying the US, Britain and France had nothing to celebrate this year because they got chased out of Afghanistan by the Taliban last August.
The ambassador is either an apologist for Nazism or merely too ignorant to do her job. She should at least read some objective reports about the conflict in the Ukraine.”
Deep down, America is mourning VE Day … because they are upset that the Nazis lost.
Behind the USA’s mask of “defending Freedom and Democracy” can be found America’s Nazi soul.
Here’s a reality that the USA’s House Negro ambassador to the UN should be compelled to face about the American Empire that she whores for:
Seven Decades Of Nazi Collaboration: America’s Dirty Little Ukraine Secret
https://fpif.org/seven-decades-nazi-collaboration-americas-dirty-little-ukraine-secret/
They act as if they have an ace up their sleeve and all their lies will not be exposed. Bio weapons in reserve and all the MSM bought off in perpetuity? Wake up sheep the West are the new Nazis! In thought and deed.
They act as if they have another planet in reserve.
The media is making a U-turn with its news. The NYT said the Donbass is virtually in Russian hands already, giving Russia “huge” (their term) leverage. Other MSM are criticizing the Biden administration for deceiving itself and others about the meaning of weapons deliveries.
“Like Germany in 1945, the Ukraine is marching fanatically towards its terrible Götterdämmerung, leaving a trail of footprints in its own blood. And NATO is standing behind, cheering it on…”
It’s like mass hypnosis, so might as well call it hypnosis. They need to figure out its hermeneutics because otherwise they will be alone saying Ukraine is winning and even “won the war” (ex-ambassador to Moscow McFaul). Here is how the NYT is making its U-turn:
“Despite many stumbles and setbacks, the Russian military has gained near total control of the Donbas region, giving the Kremlin huge leverage.” “The Russian military has gained near total control of the Donbas region, giving the Kremlin huge leverage in any future talks.” The New York Times (5/10/22)
Like others who were chosen for extracurricular reasons, the intelligence chief is floundering completely as this article’s title illustrates:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-prepared-for-prolonged-conflict-u-s-intelligence-chief-says/ar-AAX8U8h?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b72befeb6caf48a4bc583aba44e0118b
These are the hypnotic assumptions: “They did not invade to win. They will not win. The sanctions work. They will just leave. No other thoughts (repeat it many times).” All because of their self-centered policies, that made it necessary to assume that Putin invaded just to see if it is easy to win because he will abandon his goals if it is hard. Henry Kissinger is also saying that Putin will leave when he sees his own position endangered (in other words, he will flee then). Finally, it’s as simple as a plumbing problem to fix this bias. You just change those lines to “they invaded to win no matter what; they can win; the sanctions have not and do not work; they could end up taking all of Ukraine as he said (repeatedly too).”
And, Jen Psaki is leaving… :)
She was good at it. However, she said “we are not sending him to Ukraine” about president Biden, giving the impression that that’s how they see him or talk about him. No other spokesperson has said something like that.
The West seems to think Russians are like them. During WW2 Russia alone,not the USSR,lost around 13 million people,out of a population only about 2/3’s the size of Russia’s population today. If need be Russia can mobilize many millions of troops. And this war is an existential war for Russia. The West has been the one to make it that way.Either NATO is destroyed as a force hostile to Russia’s existence. Or Russia ceases to exist as a free sovereign state.I hope Russia understands that,because the NATO leaders certainly understand it fully.
Putin stated that sentiment in increasingly emphatic terms over the last 2 decades. And all of Russia knows without being told. They can look at a map and see that the situation is even more dire for them than the night before Germany launched Operation Barbarossa.
Hostile to everybody’s existence.
vomit unducing rhetoric coming from souless death merchants in US of Israel
Murdered Aljazereera reporter
https://twitter.com/i/status/1524298118086467584
Dear Saker
Not that ‘me and mine’ are a cross section of Canada, but almost every person I know started out cheering for Ukraine. No one believed me that Nazis are here in Canada. They did not believe Canada was supportng and welcomed Banderites into our country and put them in postions of great power.
Today, they ALL know.
That is not nothing.
Times they are a changing
Wonderful to hear, thank you.
There is nothing worse than the moral bankrupt of the western world. Not of all people there, but the society, the values it holds dear. It is a fallen world. Fall and sinfull. A modern Sodoma and Gomora, where the sins are praised as virtues.
Russia knows it worth living and dying for a purpose, for freedom, for saving the souls of the people. We all die, we are not imortal, but is worth dying for the good cause, not for the Big Pharma.
With all decay and pornography and all rest drugs, western world is falling. greed, pedophily, killing children for adrenochrome and soon for their brain fluid and so much more, satanic rithuals and so on.
This news made me sick, of course they will do it (if they are not doing it already) for humans as well and who are the donnors, when so many refugees children dissapear in US and EU?
https://www.statnews.com/2022/05/11/transfusion-of-young-cerebrospinal-fluid-is-memory-elevating-elixir/
They’ve lost, but will make a lot of damage in the process of falling for good.
I hope US strong moral people, the conservatives, to be able to get their country back and stop this decay, rebuild the country on true values and strength. And justice for all actually, it is the only way to survive.
Empires felt, always, as they committed many crimes and were at the end runned by incompetent people, moral banckrupt.
Russia was and is strong and stronger as for its morals and the bbest example of a nation where many individuals, no matter their Religious believes are all one nation – Russians.
Russia has lots to celebrate!
We agree.
“The Ukraine is like a bull elephant that has been shot right in the heart in mid-charge. The beast keeps on bellowing and rampaging around, not yet realising that it’s already dead”
Chicken with its head cut off and the body running aimlessly around the yard would be an even better description, considering that the UFA’s airforce was 90% destroyed and the Intel, command, control and communications (IC³) from central command all the way down to each battalion was severed in the missile strikes in the very first hour of the first day.
The legs keep running despite the fact that the neck is completely severed.
The ambassador is either an apologist for Nazism or merely too ignorant to do her job.
She is simply a neocon neoliberal who mouthpiece who is paid to present a narrative!
Those are just word games they play to continue this old narrative of theirs. Lies and manipulations of the public perception to keep the ball running.. after all that is all they have…
Slava Bogu Svetemu Očetu, Slava mati Rusiji
So far, ukraine and its buddies are losing.