Full speech here.
Video of speech here.
This is the except in which Russia and the Ukraine are mentioned:
(…) Russia’s actions in Ukraine challenge this post-war order. Here are the facts. After the people of Ukraine mobilized popular protests and calls for reform, their corrupt President fled. Against the will of the government in Kiev, Crimea was annexed. Russia poured arms into Eastern Ukraine, fueling violent separatists and a conflict that has killed thousands. When a civilian airliner was shot down from areas that these proxies controlled, they refused to allow access to the crash for days. When Ukraine started to reassert control over its territory, Russia gave up the pretense of merely supporting the separatists, and moved troops across the border.
This is a vision of the world in which might makes right – a world in which one nation’s borders can be redrawn by another, and civilized people are not allowed to recover the remains of their loved ones because of the truth that might be revealed. America stands for something different. We believe that right makes might – that bigger nations should not be able to bully smaller ones; that people should be able to choose their own future.
These are simple truths, but they must be defended. America and our allies will support the people of Ukraine as they develop their democracy and economy. We will reinforce our NATO allies, and uphold our commitment to collective defense. We will impose a cost on Russia for aggression, and counter falsehoods with the truth. We call upon others to join us on the right side of history – for while small gains can be won at the barrel of a gun, they will ultimately be turned back if enough voices support the freedom of nations and peoples to make their own decisions.
Moreover, a different path is available – the path of diplomacy and peace and the ideals this institution is designed to uphold. The recent cease-fire agreement in Ukraine offers an opening to achieve that objective. If Russia takes that path – a path that for stretches of the post-Cold War period resulted in prosperity for the Russian people – then we will lift our sanctions and welcome Russia’s role in addressing common challenges. That’s what the United States and Russia have been able to do in past years – from reducing our nuclear stockpiles to meet our obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to cooperating to remove and destroy Syria’s declared chemical weapons. And that’s the kind of cooperation we are prepared to pursue again—if Russia changes course. (…)
Basically, this is the same line as Poroshenko (which is really unsurprising since they used pretty much the same speechwriters). The message to Russia is simple:”surrender or we will mobilize the entire planet against you”.
Foreign Minister Lavrov commented: “As for the U.S. President’s speech, we earned the second place among the threats to international peace and stability: number one is the Ebola virus, number two is the so-called Russian aggression in Europe and ISIL and other terrorists who are now taking hold of the Middle East and primarily of the countries, which have evidenced U.S. interventions, are ranked as number three.”
Feel the love :-)
The Saker
Dearest Saker,
Thank you for posting Obama’s Speech at UN.
My predictions:
01. Before Obama leaves his presidency, the war against terrorism will be won and over.
02. No more Al-Qaeda, ISIL, ISIS, IS …. as they will become the past.
03. Islam will be fully vindicated.
04. No more boots in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
05. Civil liberates in USA will be somewhat restored and will continually restored after him.
06. Air travel will be nicer again in both USA and Europe, as terrorism will be the past.
07. Somewhat relief to Global Climate and it will be taken seriously.
08. Economic situation is USA and World be improved, by both monetary policy (increase in saving by increasing interest rates) and fiscal policy (inflation will increase so will the taxes).
09. Iran will be a fan and no longer be an enemy of the Empire.
10. Sectarianism will become the past in Muslims’ countries at the macro level. Micro level we always will be “I am better than you”. It is already happening in Middle East.
11. Obama and Putin will be great friends.
And, not the least and this one is hard one:
12. Hopefully, there will be peace between Israel and Palestine.
Too many predictions and at least quite a few can go wrong. But I am nobody, therefore I don’t mind predicting. I am a simpleton and mostly have been wrong most of my life.
Both Obama and Putin are Peace Makers, and both are Blessed being Peace Makers.
God plans and satan plans, and God is the Best of the Planner.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
“his is a vision of the world in which might makes right”
Iraq
Afghanistan
Libya
Panama
Chile
El Salvador
Grenada
Vietnam
Cambodia
Cuba
etc., etc.,
That has nothing to do with a US vision, I assume.
What can one say? The story of how a corrupt president “fled” in the face of popular protests is simply not an accurate account of what happened. The assertion that rebel forces prevented international investigators from reaching the crash site of MH17 is similarly factually challenged – it was Kiev who could not guarantee safety and Kiev who refused a ceasefire in the area (this information was printed – buried but printed – in many mainstream outlets including NY Times). And yet, after making these false assertions, Obama goes on to say that he is determined to “counter falsehoods with the truth”. And so the world is upside down.
The planet’s #1 Terrorist also called for “dismantling the IS network of death.” Since the Outlaw US Empire is the mother of IS and most other terrorist organizations, he will need to start with the “National Security” apparatus that spawns, trains, then supports the “network.” Lavrov is too diplomatic to say so, but not Sayeed Nasrallah.
Will Putin counter the brazen lies of the #1 terrorist? Clearly, Obama’s a rabid dog of the sort needing to be shot, but then another rabid dog would replace him. Too bad the people populating North America are incapable of the same grandeur as the continent’s scenery.
Well, I see one truth in this speech :
“Against the will of the government in Kiev, Crimea was annexed”
Is it not true? Of course the “government in Kiev” was a mere junta of his administration’s puppet, with even less rights in Crimea than in Kiev; and the “annexion” was the free will and the legal right of the Crimeans but these are “details”…
@ Mohamed, I have much more respect for Shia than for Sunna, nevertheless I am afraid you entertain much greater hopes than what such a religion can fulfill…
I forgot once more to sign, sorry.
TR
(you are welcome to join my sign with my previous message, of course, instead of publishing this message)
I’m so sorry Mohamed, but Obama is no peace maker.
Yeah, and what does Russia do? They stab Assad in the back.
If I see a single lie in an article I can excuse it but on guard and when I see 2 lies I stop and discard the entire article. So I had to stop pretty short here..
It is beyond unbelievable that the so called leader of the free world can get in front of such a huge number of people and lie like he is a pathetic liar all his life. Well actually he is from some of the stuff I have read from his younger days. The guy a poser #1.
the above is to lol
Can anybody give me url of one site (in english) about Orthodox faith.Also to understand the different obedience.
Merci
The hypocrisy content within President Obombers speech is of the highest order, bordering on sheer lunacy. The efforts USA military intervention all over the world is all about “might makes right”.
Mohamed, i assumed all your points was ironic sarcasm;)
Mohamed, One of the two parties you name is committed to causing global chaos which requires an expensive military response. A second goal is that it will destabilize the other’s country leading to its dismemberment and the stripping of its national wealth. And that party is not Putin. Now, how can your predictions be true if this party continues its global agenda of war and domination?
Basically, the Empire is rolling back the effects of 9/12. Both the USA citizens and world have suffered enough under the effects of 9/12. Everyone is tried.
Best regards,
Mohamed
Mohammad said:
My predictions … and at least quite a few can go wrong.
And for sure all of them will.
But I am nobody, therefore I don’t mind predicting. I am a simpleton and mostly have been wrong most of my life.
Your predictions demonstrate this admirably, and your (false?) modesty is also admirable.
But we have only to convert each of your predictions to its polar opposite to obtain a very probable picture of the world’s short-term future. Thanks for this.
The UNSC has passed a resolution aimed at stopping the support for terrorists, http://rt.com/news/190384-un-resolution-terrorism-mercenaries/
The meeting was chaired by the planet’s #1 Terrorist, Obama. Host countries must now close the US Embassy and expel all US-based NGOs to become compliant. Plus, all CIA, DEA, and FBI operatives must be arrested if this act is to have any meaning.
re ” But I am nobody, therefore I don’t mind predicting. I am a simpleton and mostly have been wrong most of my life. “
Which argues against anyone listening to you.
And you posted because….?
– deep blue
To Mohamed:
Pretty predictions, hope you’re right, at least on some of them! Time will tell if you’re a true prophet :)
God is the best of planners indeed. But at the same time: everything is in the hands of Heaven (even satan!), except the fear of heaven.
(Of course, in the end even that is in the hands of heaven, but there must be room for free will and responsibility and accountability and choice. Really, humanity. The way I see it.)
No offense, Mohamed but you would have to be a simpleton to believe more than a couple of your predictions will come true.
Is it possible that Obomber will leave the country worse off than when Bush the Lesser? I didn’t think so…
Sounds like you should pass to me whatever it is that you might be smoking there.
Farflungstar
Zio Occupied AmeriKa
To Mohamed:
I wish I could be as optimist as you are! Are your predictions based on your inner soul? or are they based on deductions that we all can follow? I would like to see “what you see”.
I find Lavrov incredibly cool.
Well, Mohamed, I wouldn’t call the above “predictions”. Rather ‘wishfull thinking’…
This is why I don’t have a television. Just reading the words of Obama or Kerry is respulsive enough. To actually look at either one is just too viscerally awful for any person of dignity or honor.
Didn’t see his speech, but I hope he remembers Colin Powell’s speech, and had the lying neo-cons sitting behind him at the UN. Otherwise he gets to own every one of those lies…
Dear The Saker,
This man is a joke. Using the UN to threaten Russia and lie through his teeth too says it all. The man is evil.
Everything he says is all about the USG (not Russia) – there is no shame.
The fact they still believe the rest of the world agrees with them is just pathetic.
Lavrov response – classic!
Rgds,
Veritas
Just logical,when you are weak..and goes on(mainly Medvedev+Lavrov)with ‘our partners’..’our friends’ etc
The West ONLY respects force,nothing else.
There wasn’t one true statement in his entire speech.If you look at the facts of each point he mentioned.They are all outright lies,and with a few partial truths in the mix.
It is a tragedy of our times that so many will still believe anything this lying sockpuppet barbarian says. But more people are waking up every day and we can only hope this will lead somewhere. At the same time I see no one out there offering a viable strategy to defeat these psychopathic scum beyond wishful thinking.
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/posts/1552331638323516
Saker – some potential game changing news coming out of Donetsk outskirts after the withdrawal of Ukie ‘volunteer battalion’ units as part of the Minsk agreement. DNR PM Zachkarchenko is saying that he has personally viewed a mass grave containing victims shot in the back of the head and in some cases decapitated or gutted for organs in territory previously controlled by the Aidar battalion. The bodies have been decomposing for at least a month, according to forensic investigators and the OSCE is at the scene with the NYT reporter Andrew Roth tweeting about it and getting trolled by Ukie bots on Twitter who insist the NAF did it.
Maybe we can get a Juan SITREP on this?
Great article : “The Russia they lost”
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/09/24/the-russia-they-lost/#more-3793
“You are starting to slowly die, America. And if you think I’m gloating – you’re wrong. A great change of epochs is always accompanied by a lot of blood, and I do not like blood. We, the people who have been through the sunset of our empire, could even explain what you are doing wrong. But we will not. Guess for yourself.”
Additional to my post on this topic “O’bomber’s UN speech-Russia is No:2 Threat” Open Thread @ 17:15.
The late Mr. Chavez would have said “I smell the devil” –this is truly shocking. Don’t come asking Russia for that cup of sugar or pinch of salt.
From funding, training and arming the “vetted as “moderate terrorists, the “freedom liver eaters” to “bio-weapons.”
The U.S. is more than quite a little acquainted with viruses..
Human Ebola virus species and compositions and methods thereof. Guess who owns it? The CDC /Health & Human Services (HHS) hold the patents on Ebola
At link, in the Applicant field click on 5 more to bring up all the Applicants shown below:
Inventors
Jonathan S. Towner, Stuart T. Nichol, James A. Comer, Thomas G. Ksiazek, Pierre E. Rollin, Less «
Applicant
Jonathan S. Towner, Stuart T. Nichol, James A. Comer, Thomas G. Ksiazek, Pierre E. Rollin, The Government Of The United States Of America As Represented By The Secretary, Department Of Health & Human Services, Center For Disease Contro, Less «
. . . . ..
Not too coincidental. There is this very well documented book written by L. G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H. — a Harvard graduate and independent medical investigator; Foreword by W. John Martin, M.D. Ph. D and endorsed by several Professors of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine.
Note: The book was published in 1997.
The Title: Emerging Viruses – AIDS & Ebola —Nature, Accident or Intentional?
Quote from one of the endorsers:
“One cannot fail to grasp the explosive significance of this book and its main thesis, that biological weapons programs developed and field tested immune-system-destroying agents that now cannot be contained…A cogent, readable, and carefully documented work.”
– Garth L. Nicolson, Ph.D
Professor of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine,
University of Texas Medical School at Houston
~ ~ ~ ~
interesting that other countries send doctors to West Africa, but the U.S. sent 3,000 troops.
The donkey is said to have observed –There are many two-legged species on planet earth who are passing themselves off as humans.
AM
“Everything will melt away like ice yet the glory of Vladimir , the glory of Russia are the only things that will remain. Russia will not only survive, it will dominate the world. (1979)
But first Syria must fall, and it will fall. What’s written is written.
One piece of happy news — apparently Col. Strelkov’s protege and now a battalion commander in his own right Motorola and his wife Elena are expecting after the newlyweds honeymoon in Crimea. Congratulations!
https://twitter.com/homo_viator/status/514666761313341441/photo/1
If there’s one nation that bullies smaller nations and bombs and regime changes them it’s the US.
The paragraph of Obama lies about Ukraine and Russia are testimony to the Cult Leader (Obama) whose detachment from reality has pushed him over the edge.
The only thing better would have been if he had delivered the speech from the golf course.
Obama will be an asterisk of history. He hunts by drone and hellfire, but he is brainless, gutless and the ultimate Fraud of Liberalism.
Propped up by idolatry and hosts of whites who think he’s a black man who needs their protection, Obama has come full circle from doper to doped.
Obama: Cult Leader, demigod, powerless without the complete subjugation of true believers.
And at bottom, he is merely a tool of others.
First, he”s a product of Indonesian madrassa. Then a product of Communists who trained him. Finally, a product of Liberalism that wrapped a Cult of Worship around the fool.
He received no reaction in the UN. He is over.
But thousands more will die because he has potency problems, and only US weapons can make up for his impotence as a leader.
Three mass graves investigated (documented only) by OSCE with fresh (August 27th) evidence. Women in the graves.
Then there’s the five hundred in a grave. The lakes full of weighted bodies. And Krasny Liman still to be explored for the massacre of all the males taken months back.
What the World need is disregard Obama speechs and prepare ourselves for the american covert and overt attacks to our countries.
Ist’s an old story:
firefighter ignites what has been eagerly stuffed over the years with combustibles
to be able to”save” the comunity
I am afraid I have nothing very intelligent to say about Obama’s rant beyond expressing my utter disgust, loathing, pain, and anger at the mountain of lies that this Nobel peace prize winner spews. Further disgusting is the fact that no delegate walked out to protest this barrage of lies. War is peace, lies are truth, the aggressor is the victim, and the devil has all rights to recite the scriptures: such is the age we have descended into.
–BTW
No need to hear more lies from the evil empire. What we human beings need to do is prepare to fight the evil to save ourselves and our children future. For example, stop feeding the killing machine by boycotting american goods. This is a simple action that could save a lot of lifes.
Mohamed, you sure have a sense of sarcastic, perhaps macabre, humor.
Here are some more prophecies that you may consider adding to your list:
1) The world will at long last recognize Obama to be the world’s greatest peacemaker.
2) The world will at last understand that water freezes when it is boiled and boils when its is frozen.
3) God and Satan are twins, both are good (I intend no blasphemy here).
4) Gengiz Khan, Attila the Hun, Hitler, and Obama Obomber are the greatest humans to be born.
5) Obama’s last great act will be to fix Humpty-Dumpty.
Peace. We all see things differently, I suppose!
— BTW
Lavrov might be my favorite politician of all time
Wow, what obnoxious childishness and the hypocrisy is beyond risible
I never thought I would hate a politician more than GW Bush but Obama is a disgrace and why doesn’t he cut some cheese to go with his whine. Worst. President. Ever.
My family needles me mercilessly for voting for this clown in 2008
Obama can spew that nonsense about MH17 bc he got the Dutch to bury the truth til it makes the back pages of the NYT mention July 4 weekend Summer 2015
@Mohamed. are you the Muslim Nostradamus? Whatever you are smoking I want a hit lol
The US will stage false flag terror attacks in Europe and the US to justify the next phase.
As per Flores’ Syncretic Studies, we are likely to enter a period in which Russia and the US appear to be working together in Syria and Ukraine, with the putative enemies being ‘ISIL’ and ‘Right Sector’.
The socialist revolution will power Novorossia, the capitalist fascist revolution will power Ukraine.
Syria may go down, focus will shift to Iran and Venezuela.
@American Kulak
This is sickening
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140924/193248790/OSCE-Report-from-Ukraine-Mass-Graves-Site-Reveals-Civilians.html
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/7511
Not a peep:
1. New York Times
2. Washington Post
3. Kardashian Post
Hi BTW, great comments!
And also do I feel like Anunnaki.
And to quote Gerald Celente:
“Don’t forget to vote! – why not Charles Manson?!”
How long will this madness continue?
Anon Mongoose said…
The U.S. is more than quite a little acquainted with viruses..
Human Ebola virus species and compositions and methods thereof. Guess who owns it? The CDC /Health & Human Services (HHS) hold the patents on Ebola
At link … Inventors: Jonathan S. Towner …
Applicant: Jonathan S. Towner, … The Government Of The United States Of America As Represented By The Secretary, Department Of Health & Human Services, Center For Disease Control
Well, to be exact, it’s only one Ebola-type virus that (as I understand it) J.S.Towner synthesized, and the DHHS can say, “Well, we just want this so we can develop a vaccine or an antidote — really we have no interest in biowarfare agents (although some of our colleagues at Camp Detrick may be quite interested in this particular strain of Ebola virus; we can’t comment).”
The US has long been interested in viruses as agents of biowarfare, and there have been quite a few suspicions of lab-created viruses in recent years. See
Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Tamiflu and Donald Rumsfeld, with some 2014 Ebola-related links. (Also a 2009 connection to the Ukraine.)
I think we now have to seriously consider the possibility that the current West African Ebola epidemic has been deliberately created with the intention of causing massive fatalities in Africa, Europe and Asia, as part of an attempt to reduce global population. (Note that North America is not included in that list.) Ebola has already spread to Nigeria, and, given the number of people travelling between Nigeria and the UK, it’s likely to reach the UK before long, thence to continental Europe, Russia and the Far East. Of course, there’s also a lot of transatlantic travel. But if there’s a major Ebola outbreak in Europe then the US and Canada can simply ban all flights from Europe. And according to a report by CNN an antidote “known as ZMapp, [has been] developed by the biotech firm Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc., which is based in San Diego”. So if the West African Ebola epidemic is the creation of certain unknown (but evil) psychopaths with the intention of killing off most of the people in Africa, Europe and Asia, then they may be counting on a US-developed antidote to treat cases which occur in the US (and Canada), at least for those people who either can afford to pay for it or are considered essential to the maintenance of government (including, of course, all members of Congress and officials within the Obama administration).
@Mohammed,
I know having followed most of your comments on this blog for the past months that you are a nice guy.But what you say border Blasphemy.How can you as a Muslim decent person continue to propagandize for a World-Criminal” at the head of the Mother-of Terrorism,the USA on this planet from Hiroshima,Vietnam to our days “and here I quote Sayed Hassan Nasrallah in yesterday speech?How dare you compare a miserable assassin to a Statesman who for better or worse is trying to serve its country at his best?Look at the 6 years of presidency of which he is so found.Nigeria,Mali,Algeria,Ukraine,Syria,Iraq,Lebanon,Central Africa,Uganda,Myanmar,Daghestan(RF),Palestine,Yemen,EgyptLybia by way of its proxies,Yemen,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria Lybia by his drones and aircrafts and bombs.I am sure I forgot many other victims in my total revulsion but starting by how many millions of deads are you going to see the truth.By 50 millions?100?
Your denials are horrific and no ,the empire will not resurrect from its ashes as Russia did because the preconditions are totally different,culturally,spiritually,historically,geographically .
So dear Mohammed see the light,God does differentiate between a good man and a Dajjal,so follow what He taught us.
BCH
What were the reactions of those who were attending the speech at the UN?
Anonomous (TR) said:
“Well, I see one truth in this speech :
“Against the will of the government in Kiev, Crimea was annexed”
Is it not true? Of course the “government in Kiev” was a mere junta of his administration’s puppet, with even less rights in Crimea than in Kiev; and the “annexion” was the free will and the legal right of the Crimeans but these are “details”…
“
Even that is not truth.
Definition of “annexation” is to take territory _against_ the will of the local people.
In Crimea the local people voted.
So there were no annexation.
One could rather say that ukraine have annexed Crimea atleast once.
When The Sovjet union collpased, Crimea declared independence.
Crimea had its own Constitution and own president.
One year or so afterwards Ukraine invaded Crimea and forced Crimea to be part of Ukraine. Threw away Crimea constitution and presidency.
(Some time later Crimea was allowed to have autonomy, under ukraine).
Btw, Sovjetunion did not dissolve itself. Gorbasjov was the leader of Sovjet.
The leaders of 4(?) of the sovjet-countries decided to revolt and declare sovjetunion dissolved. (It was the russian president Yeltsin, ukranian president and some others).
So IF ukraine were allowed to illegally brake free… Why shouldnt others be allowed to brake free from ukraine again?).
Dear Brother Mohamed:
As usual your “predictions” are always ones highest sense of good. It’s what you see when others see the greatest evil. You always invert evil into good. That’s true metaphysics. And its why I admire you so very, very much.
I’ve been watching Obama lately. I didn’t vote for him. And I have lots of issues with him. But if I ignore the optics and what he says — and only watch what he does (like him blowing-off meetings and playing golf constantly and saluting the military with a cup in his hand — LOL) I see someone who is signaling those who are watching as if to say “SEE, I am totally disgusted with this whole charade, I have no way to alter or change ANY of this, so I won’t be part of it and I’ll go play golf.” He’s passive-aggressive about everything these days. He’s telling us that the zogs won’t let him make decisions — so he’s letting them deal with it — and showing us what he thinks of their policies. I read he exploded during a meeting with senior pentagon officials who were describing all Muslims as evil — and he told them to stop lumping all of Islam as evil ISIS. This hatred of Islam is the zionification of US military — and the public. I bought-in to all that rubbish after 9-11 too. But its been several years since I woke-up to the BS and stopped being mesmerized by mossad-hasbara-foxnews crap.
I don’t know if all your predictions will unfold. But I hope so. And because I know God is in control. So good is the only possible outcome.
I have missed you brother. I love Saker — but this site gets a bit rough at times. Not sure its just the trolls at work. Maybe its deep cultural differences that make it difficult to see things from a similar view. Americans — by their nature — tend to be optimistic. Although lately — I have not been very optimistic about the world — and particularly about America. But we tend not to think or carry the past so heavily. And that makes us quite different from our Russian friends.
Sending you and yours floodtides of love! AGS
Der Saker,
Do you know if Assad has asked Russia for help?
Frances
I wonder.
In what kind of audience is Obama addressing?
Doesnt he know that the masses are starting to wake up slowly?
In a few years nobody will believe them.
There is a old speech here in Greece which says” The thief and the lier are happy only for a year”
Ok in USA isnt one year but the case is the same.
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/106920.html
Ukis to resort to sabotage and terrorism in Russia against Russians
Saker:
I had read somewhere the military Voertong store had been closed.
Thankfully conformation from Col. cassad confirms that is not the case
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/106586.html
Please add:
1. Invasions to NIcaragua.
2. War in El Salvador
3, genocide of the Guatemala Mayans funded by the proxies of USA.
4, coup d’etat in Central America, Dominicana, Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Peru, Colombia, etc.
5 funding of fascists AND leftists terrorist groups in several Latin American countries to promote civil wars.
6 financial terrorism.
7 last but not least, policies of eugenics in Peru, Brazil, protection for the Fuhrer who lived in Argentinian Patagonia, support of peronist fascists,
And
8 promotion of junk mc donalds, destruction of educational systems such as in Argentina,
Etc etc
RE: O’buttbandit’s rant against Russia.
Well this is what happens when a country threatens the zio-bankster’s extortion racket monopoly and passes laws preventing Israelis from dominating one’s media. The sods become irrationally upset and are bound to say anything about one.
It’s both embarrassing and revolting to be on the same planet with these freaks.
вот так
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-24/top-us-consitutional-expert-obama-more-extreme-warmonger-bush-or-nixon
Turley was a mainstay on the Obama Channel (MSNBC) until he lost the plot on Obama’ the “constitutional scholar” crimes against the Constitution
Obama is resentful, jealous, vindictive, because basically President Putin got what he wanted, Crimea and freedom for the eastern provinces. Besides “not having control on Russia”, creates for the neocons a bigger problem than Ebola or ISIS: it hits their very existence, and that it is why US will fight to the death the multipolar world, and this NWO.
The Heroes Behind Kiev Cease Fire
New Eastern Outlook
Published time: 23 September, 2014
The Kiev government of President Petro Poroshenko has suddenly agreed to, of all things, a ceasefire proposal based almost identically on a proposal unveiled by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The ceasefire, which seems to be more or less holding after several days, has caught Washington completely by surprise and forced the Obama Administration hawks to pressure the EU at their recent summit to agree new sanctions on Russia anyway. It all underscores the hypocritical nature of the war in Ukraine as a move by Washington warhawks to split Russia from the EU, especially from Germany and make a new Cold War with Russia again the “Empire of Evil.” It’s not working out as planned, however… “—- Interesting perspective.
Oh come-on you America bashers and Obama bashers! Actions speak louder than words. Sure Obama engages is ridiculous and bombast filled rhetoric, but his actions convey a completely different mindset:
From what I’ve observed President Obama has run interference against direct war as much as possible given his precarious circumstances. Some may attribute this to incompetence, while the less bitter and more mature amongst us would attribute it subtle interference.
-on Libya Obama forced those slimey Brits (the elite, not the average guy) into putting up their own airfarce to do the bombing; same for the Neocon owned French state. The US only provided back end support, this time the dirty work (killing and indiscriminate bombing) was done by the instigating Europeans themselves for a change.
-On Syria Obama took the first chance to ‘escape’ having to carry out airstrikes (being forced on by the Neocon and Anglophile/Europhile factions of the US establishment). As soon as Vladmir Putin sent in his Navy to block and simultaneously offered Obama the Olive branch, Obama took the Olive branch and backed the US off. Romney would have attacked.
-On the Ukraine debacle it was the slimebag Gemany intelligence agency, the BND, and those Eurofascists in Brussels and Berlin that were main instigators of this latest illegal, bloody murderous attempt at further EU expansion, not Obama. The Americans were sucked in to another conflict by the seething European establishment (remember the American “Fuck the EU” comment?). Europe chafes at the fact that they are under American domination; they don’t hesitate to suck America into one draining conflict after another. This time the US screwed the EU back by using this EU land grab to really drive a wedge between Russia’s industrialists and those of the EU. Obama actions have exposed to the Russian masses the true vicious nature of the European establishment, this has driven home the point into the Russian public that the Europeans can never be trusted and this has destroyed the Russian “Atlantic Integrationist’s” argument and support base. Meanwhile the US and Obama throw an insulting trinket of only $50-Million to that fat shit-head Poroshenko last week; $50-Million is a drop in the bucket, a bad joke. If this had been Bush, McCain, or that idiot Romney, US would have gone in full bore to support the Ukrainian Junta ($5-10 Billion in miltary support, not 1/100th that amount as Obama did). Meanwhile the EU has to bear the full consequences of their dirty and greedy attempt to subsume Ukraine while America walks away financially undamaged. The EU and Germany finally get to pay a real financial cost for their expansionism.
-on ISIS, despite this bogeyman being a creation of the CIA, State Dept. and the various lackeys of the US in the region (Turkey, Saudi, the Gulf states, Israel, etc.), Obama has been able to use the Neocon/Anglophile failure in Ukraine to sideline those fools and bomb their creation (over the howls of the Anglophiles and the Neocons). Meanwhile the rest of the Syria opposition is in disarray.
So far compared to Bush, Romney, Hitlery, McMoron, Blair, etc.. Obama is looking pretty good..
Zero Hedge is bringing the knowledge with their Foreign Affairs stories
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-24/afghan-president-hamid-karzai-slams-us-foreign-policy-farewell-speech
Well Obamas speech is straight out of the book (1984) :)
@Mohamed. are you the Muslim Nostradamus?
He is a jester, like Nasreddin Hodja, like the majzub Abu Said. He teaches us making us laugh.
While this commentary is about the quisling freakshow in the Ukraine (really, former Ukraine, since the current region with that name no longer resembles the Ukraine), much of what is said here could apply equally to their fellow quislings among the capitalist “western” colonies of the ZPC/NWO. And most definitely, it describes the mentality of the Israeli-American scum sitting at the top of the manure pile.
The Yandex translation is understandable in most of the piece, but this really deserves a better translation as it is a class of work. This is how it begins…
Жидкий стул фашизма (Liquid stool fascism)
http://amfora.livejournal.com/126944.html (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/amfora.livejournal.com/126944.html
“Nothing of Ukrainian politics. Ordered them to organize in Ukraine fascism – and it failed.
Over the past 20 years, five billion Dali, Dali in the hands of the leashes from nationalist groups, who ten years somewhere in camps near lwów trained to hate the Russians. All of them gave only build fascism.
The CIA for them Maidan organized, was brought to power, Barack Obama acknowledged Poroshenko as soon as the last ballot in the ballot box fell even wait count did not. All for them. If only fascism in Ukraine was built. Normal anti-fascism.
Drones have given them dry rations, loan, another credit, the American special forces, the Polish special forces – everything your heart desires. Only aircraft carrier in the Black sea is not set, everything else is provided.
At Odessa, eyes closed, Boeing under the shooting drove, sanctions against Russia introduced – what else you need?
Everything for them was. And they are what?
Slavyansk took-took, took only when the Shooters went out. Donetsk took-took – took. Lugansk took-took – took. Half the army lost half of the tanks lost. The nation does not want to fight, mobilization is not.
Poroshenko flies to Canada to beg assistance in the construction of fascism. Poroshenko is flying to Washington to beg the assistance in the construction of fascism. Poroshenko sends in Minsk Kholui, which dropped more pose-past President for nesootvetstvie position – and for what? In order to beg a truce.
Dear anti-fascists, let’s take some time to stop the fire because we, fascists, end tanks and cannon fodder and we can’t them you more throw. We need at least a month to collect a couple of new teams fascists instead of those whom you broke up pissing rags somewhere in the fields near the city of Lugansk. And still we need time to beg at least a hundred American tanks and armored vehicles, because to fight on the scooters we can’t, you are scootering again rags will dissolve. Let you some time will not shoot at us because our punitive very scared. And when we will gather his iron Armada, if we collect, we will come again and say that the truce is over and then you will give up, and we’re going to destroy you, as it should be real fascists. Agreed?
And after this they even not reached Smolensk!
Well that’s it for fascism really?
Nobody would not disgrace the cause of Hitler for all 70 years, as it managed to do Poroshenko and the team…”
вот так
WizOz said…
@Mohamed. are you the Muslim Nostradamus?
He is a jester, like Nasreddin Hodja, like the majzub Abu Said. He teaches us making us laugh.
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I see him more like Juha
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/101986.Tales_of_Juha
So far compared to Bush, Romney, Hitlery, McMoron, Blair, etc.. Obama is looking pretty good..
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Tell that to the bugsplat dead in the 7 countries he has bombed
1. Iraq
2. Afghanistan
3. Pakistan
4. Yemen
5. Libya
6. Somalia
7. Syria
The deaths of Eastern Ukrainians should be added to this Butcher’s Bill as well
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Butcher%27s%20Bill
Outrageous defense of a mass murderer
@Annunaki,
What do you think McMoron (aka McInsane), Romney or Bush Jr. Would have done instead of Obama? A Hot War! (or have you forgotten the Tie-chewing Neocon criminal, sackofshitvili, cheney’s Georgian sock-puppet; you know, the flaming idiot that attacked Russia head on?)
Look, my view is that large states are run/controlled/influenced by varying coalitions of factions (US, Russia, China, India, etc.). In these superstates, the leader does not have final say, he often has to negotiate or even take orders from the powerbrokers they’re dependent on (even the Chinese leader). I believe the US president is relatively weak (the institution); i.e. The US President has very little maneuverability to carry out his own agenda especially if that agenda is opposed to the objectives of the latest ascendant faction. The last US president that tried to actually “lead” directly and carry out his own vision, John F. Kennedy was murdered by the factions of the US power structure whose interests Kennedy’s decisions endangered. Obama fully understands this (I believe he once said so in an outburst when an ex-supporter was badgering him over reneging on some of his socialist promises.)
From what I’ve observed, Obama has shown a penchant for dragging his feet, stalling & incrementalism while blowing hot-air (for the consumption of NeoIdiots and war-mongers), whether this is his deliberate interference against the Neocons & the Anglophiles or due to real fear of an out of control war with Russia, or due to incompetence is for you to decide.
The facts are that both in Ukraine and in Syria, Obama never supplied enough material & financial support to ensure a victory; hot-air, incremental increases, symbolic and laughably tiny increases of Nato ground forces in the Baltics, etc., but nothing substantive). Same for Syria. For a country that prints money out of thin air, money the rest of us are forced to use, (fiat money with real buying power), it shouldn’t have been a problem for Obama to throw $5-Billion to $10-Billion in pure military aid and personnel to the Ukie Junta, but he didn’t. Same with Syria.
The US is not evil, but some of the fascistic factions that have usurped power and manipulated the public can be characterized as evil. At the same time you have decent and truly American power factions (for instance within the Executive, the Pentagon and Intelligence community) that are opposed to these interventions. Let’s not forget the increasing number of Americans themselves that are openly voicing opposition to their country being usurped by these same factions.
For all of you piling manure onto Obama due to his teleprompter driven hot-air, imagine how much worse the situation will be when the NeoLiberal fascists like Brzinski &co manage to get a Hitlery Clinton or equivalent into the whitehouse. Or those equally bonkered Neocon freaks of the Republican party supply us with another Bush or Romney type.
The American people, and many of their people in their defense and security institutions are basically good people, demonizing them will solve nothing, on the contrary it helps distract us from the real miscreants that are supporting war, chaos and global blackmail.
The Destiny of Humankind didnt face greater danger than now with an empire in decline, but so desperate and evil, that prefer to take the whole World down with it. Is insane. Comparing with the demise of Soviet Union, we could see that the soviets were much much more sane and human.
Thanks, Johann Schickeneder.
Obama’s barrage of lies to the entire assembly of mankind really sickened me. Then, on top of it, we got Mohamed’s great prophecies right out of la-la land, so I put together some more interesting ones to add to the list. I guess the point is to keep one’s sense of humor alive even as the world looks like it is going mad.
— BTW
I”m not an Obamabot. But while saying the usual platitudes about supporting democracy and freedom everywhere (which by the way all Presidents and their puppets say unless some haven’t been paying attention for the last century), there definitely was a change in tone.
For some the only issue is Novorossiya–the nationalists. For others, the issue is broader-world peace. This speech in spite of the American Exceptionalist rhetoric represents a very real political shift back to talking about detente and in joint cooperation in averting nuclear war. This is the most central issue basic to every human being on the planet. Everything else after that is secondary and unimportant.
For those who cannot see past the Ukraine, you are missing the forest for the trees.
And while Russia can upgrade its nuclear capabilities, it’s people will pay a huge price for this. Likewise, Americans as well as the American pricetag is $1 trillion dollars.
All this wasted monies and efforts that do not go to address human needs and for a more advanced nuclear capacity that only serves for deterrence but can never be used if human beings can continue existing on planet Earth.
“Mohamed said…
Dearest Saker,
Thank you for posting Obama’s Speech at UN.
My predictions:
01. Before Obama leaves his presidency, the war against terrorism will be won and over.
[…]
11. Obama and Putin will be great friends.
And, not the least and this one is hard one:
12. Hopefully, there will be peace between Israel and Palestine.”
More predictons that have just as much validity:
13. Santa Claus will be proved to be a real person.
14. The Easter Bunny will win a Nobel Peace Prize.
15. The Tooth Fairy will be elected President of the USA and go down in history as one of the greatest and most beloved rulers in US history.
16. Justin Bieber’s face will be added to Mount Rushmore.
Here are the TRUE facts Obama – the legally and democratically elected president was chased out of the country by fascist thugs, cheered on by the American State Department who then decided on the formation of the UNdemocratic junta that took over and attacked East Ukraine, slaughtering civilians and hoping to incite Russia to invade. The list of Yankee lies is endless – they really ARE shameless warmongers.
Obama’s speech is the proof of who’s calling the shots in US. The Kaganate of Nuland! The hatred they have for Russia is palpable. Jews hate Russia, that’s an incontrovertible fact.