Oleg Tsarev
Interviewer: Oleg, let’s begin with Ukraine. You have friends who have stayed there, and you have certain exclusive sources who regularly provide you private information. On that basis, what do you think about the situation with the economy of Ukraine, and what are the strategic prospects for the country in the near future?
Evidently, it was for a good reason that Kerry flew to Moscow on May 12th, and Nuland came there on May 17th. The outlines of the agreements are clear. Russia, the European Union, and now also the USA are forcing Poroshenko to implement the Minsk Accords. In this way, a foundation for political settlement will be laid down. In accordance with the Minsk Accords, the DPR and LPR must re-integrate within Ukraine, and get a special status, similar either to “autonomies” or to subjects in a confederation. The Donbass will have a common economic space with Ukraine, but will preserve the right to make independent decisions on most issues. Kiev’s observance of its obligations to the Donbass will be guaranteed by the armies of the DPR and LPR with all their armament, renamed into “people’s police forces”.
Evidently, in the near future we shall observe the creation of a demilitarized region around Donbass, from which not just heavy artillery but also lightly armed soldiers will be withdrawn. I think that this process will begin as soon as it is tested with the successful example of Shirokino. Clashes and shelling will cease as soon as the soldiers can’t see each other in their rifle sights. The next step will be a general amnesty and lifting the economic blockade of Donbass by Kiev.
The immense numbers of armed paramilitaries consist of radicals, whose life is war and who do not wish to lay down arms. It is also true that the population of Donbass, the majority of them having endured so much at the hands of Kiev during ATO, is not willing to return to Ukraine. From my point of view, the process of reconciling the Donbass with Ukraine can hardly be successful while those who unleashed civil war are still in power. And while people like Poroshenko, Yatseniuk, Turchinov, and Kolomoyskiy are not yet brought to justice for their crimes.
Still unresolved is one of the chief contradictions at the very foundation of the Ukrainian state –a state formed by the Russian and Ukrainian people – that the Russian language is not an official language. Nor it is not possible to call USA a reliable partner. The CIA employees who are controlling the State Security and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not about to return to the USA. No one is about to give actual control of the country back to the people of Ukraine. Hence, of course, we must do everything we can to stop the bloodshed, but at the same time we need to keep the powder dry.
Unfortunately, I think woes and problems will plague my long-suffering homeland for a long time. Not long ago, an acquaintance who is a leader of an NGO in Dnepropetrovsk came to me and told me that they brought him to the Security Service [building], and among many other questions, they asked him questions about me.
The questions were about the period when I was engaged in politics in Dnepropetrovsk. At a meeting there was a man who remained silent and only listened to the answers, but when his phone rang, he began to talk on the phone in pure English. I am convinced that no matter how the conflict in Donbass develops, the Americans will do everything they can to keep Ukraine under their control.
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Jonathan Pollard, Spy for Israel, to Be Released on Parole in November.
Well, Hillary, that’s one thing off your ‘to do’ list…
In case one wonders what the ‘price tag’ to the ‘Iranian deal’ really was…
What a terrible thing for the Tsarev family to have lost their country and their home. I’m glad that at least they have Donbass to fall back on.
It was courageous of Oleg to attempt to defend Ukraine by running for President. It is difficult to be optimistic when the international banking cabal has decided to weaponize Ukraine against Russia. I would guess that the current legislative action is only Public Relations and the US attack upon the well-being of Ukraine, Donbass and Russia will continue.
It’s being reported on a video newscast that US will give money to Donbass militia to convert to a police force. It’s being carried on LiveNews, too.
https://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/for-reasons-best-known-to-himself-uncle-sam-holds-out-a-fistful-of-bloody-dollars-to-the-militia/
(only in Russian)
I don’t buy it.I can’t see Russia permitting NATO involvement with the NAF.And I can’t see the NAF allowing it either.It sounds like more disinformation propaganda.They US might of course try it but I don’t see it happening.
Sounds believable. Maybe the US got tired of waiting for the economy in the Donbass to collapse so the people would overthrow the government there. So now they will just buy up all the assets in the country and leave the Donbass alone. As the country will remain anti-Russian in just about all ways, it will cause so many problems for Russia that no amount of propaganda will do much good.
Unfortunately, this approach by the US might be their best way of going about things. What counter-response could Russia offer?
They will probably also try to use IT gadgetry to make good on efficient corruption proof supply chain. May want to see about that. In the long run, -if there is one,- whoever is more efficient will win.
thanks Saker, very interesting and what a decent man. That was the first shock I experienced..when he was cycling and the mayor of that big city…it starts with a K….got shot…but what also was shocking for me…that mayor who was shot was taken immediately to Israel for surgery…I’ve never heard of that incident again. Then Oleg was beaten and the Maidan happened (maybe other way around)and the Union Trade Building horror…and so it goes on.
Here is a great video on the struggle between Donbass and Russia against the forces of evil in modern Western society.It has quite a few scenes of Donetsk City today:
WHY KILL DONBASS? / WHY THEY ARE KILLING DONBASS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbjcPH-U7g&feature=player_embedded
what a most thought provoking short film.
it covers so much that ails most of the western ‘values’,
and its ‘clash of civilizations’ in reality, unlike the
fake Israeli/neocon Islam and the west’s propaganda
‘clash of civilizations’ which benefit only……guess who.
Tsarev analysis of the CIA’s total control of what is left of the former Ukraine is spot on. The USA has become so week that they need to sabotage not only their ‘enemies’ – Russia, China, Iran, Syria – but also their ‘friends’ – Japan, Korea, Europe.
A defunct Ukraine, where all kind of virus, bacteria and parasites can quickly multiply and prosper, will be instrumental in further weakening the immune systems of Europe, especially Germany and France. Interesting times ahead. Will Germany eventually turn east?
Zweistein,
Germany is occupied militarily by the US. Some of the extra troops US has brought up to “protect European borders from Russia” have been left further inland. It begins to look like even further US occupation of Europe than already provided for by “NATO” forces at various military installations.
But here’s an optimistic note:
7/27/15 https://bsnews.info/beppe-nationalize-banks-to-throw-off-anti-democratic-straitjacket-of-eurozone/
” Longtime critic of the Eurozone’s destructive commitment to austerity, Italian comedian-turned-political activist Beppe Grillo has launched what one news outlet called a “full-throated attack” on the single currency, saying his country should throw off that “anti-democratic straitjacket” by nationalizing its banks and taking a stronger stance against the demands of elite financial interests.
Grillo, who the Guardian says “transformed Italian politics when he launched his anti-establishment Five Star Movement in 2009,” called for Italy to exit the Euro in order to guard against the threat of bankruptcy and German-imposed austerity.
“impossible to reform the euro from the inside.”
“In his blog post, Grillo also took a broad swipe at the U.S. trade agenda, suggesting the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) “would turn Europe into a subject of the U.S. in the same way Europe had become a subject of Germany,” according to the Guardian.”
@ Penelope,
Q; Germany is occupied militarily by the US + German-imposed austerity.
R: So, who imposes what? on whom Who runs the US? Obombi? Germany, like Japan, runs itself? Did the losers win?
Well, these developments were predictable, has I have warned some time ago. You could look at the longevity of fascist regimes in the Iberian peninsula and South America, to convince yourselves that Ukraine could be kept in this metastable state for years, instead of months, by the use of a military/security apparatus; a device that has been thoroughly tested and applied in South America.
Nevertheless, the Kiev regime in its current configuration — colonial administration — cannot last as much as the Iberian dictatorships of Salazar and Franco did. The Iberian regimes were independent of Germany and, later, of NATO; had an independent foreign policy, and their economies were also run independently. This meant that they could use economic resources to gain the support of many sectors of its middle classes. This is important because a part of the elite necessary to run a modern (industrial) country belongs to the middle class. Due to its European location, Ukraine cannot last long as a third world economy.
Kiev’s Ukraine has become a colony of the West; it has no independent economic and foreign policy. If local economic resources are not allocated to keep the Ukrainian middle classes prosperous, the regime — or, even, the country — will not survive the next global financial crisis. [And, by the way, this same fate awaits the eurozone, because the regimes of the Mediterranean EU countries suffer from the same political problem.]
This is exactly the same political error Nazi Germany did in eastern Europe; that political error prevented Germany from consolidating the empire it conquered in 1935-1942. This similarity is not by chance. There are some supremacist elements in the ideology of the “indispensable nation”; these elements generate points of contact with the nationalist Germanic ideologies [from which the Nazi movement was nothing but a cancerous outgrowth, caused by the costly defeat in WWI].
More generally, nationalistic ideologies are present in all of the Western “developed” nations, and “justify” the economic plundering of entire nations. Under this ideology, the supremacy of the fittest means that “uncompetitive” nations “really” deserve the fate that neoliberal policies offers them.
This might be more of a shock doctrine and depopulation situation. If half of the people flee or die, and then the quasi-corpse is resuscitated a bit, it might work. As for the third world not being possible in Europe, well, why not? Lots of areas of the EU are sinking badly, and will likely be less developed than places like Turkey or Jordan are today within a few years.
The approach of the Kremlin towards the Ukraine over the last 15 years is hard to understand. How can you not show up for the struggle? The history of countries falling from economic problems is normally where a neighbor then funds gangs to take over or destroy the existing system. If Russia refuses to do that, who will? You can’t really expect China or Romania to fund modern revolutionaries. Anyway, it could be a long wait. Ten years wouldn’t seem unreasonable – there is a lot of black dirt and kidneys to sell.
Moving stuff from a brave man. I salute him.
But this war is being fought on a level way above that which can be fully analysed in purely military terms, or political and diplomatic either for that matter. It looks like it will indeed lead to a serious shooting match between Russia and NATO, but if so it will almost certainly be by design and pre-planned intent. Post-facto for mass consumption, that intent will be ascribed to the ‘losing’ side which will suffer accordingly. But just as with the two previous rounds (world wars), the reality will be very, VERY different.
And the thing is this: those with dominant influence at that higher level belong to a single powerful cohort with members on BOTH sides. That cohort is directed by interests with near zero loyalty to either NATO or Russia – and the beauty of it is that nobody gives the matter any serious attention – Now why is that do you suppose?
I think it was Voltaire who said something like “if you want to know who your rulers really are, just find out who you are not allowed to criticize”.
In a nutshell, Zionism is not the problem, it is Global Talmudic Judaism – or in esoteric terminolgy, The Cryptocracy – whose single-minded driving hatred, as a matter of historical fact, is of everything Christian (and to a lesser extent, Muslim). It intends to remain on the winning side.
We must not reciprocate that hatred, but we should, at the very least, be aware of it and discuss it; instead of which it remains a steadfastly verboden subject – on both sides.
IMHO, there is way to much focus on ‘NAZI’ here, which I’m afraid serves The Cryptocracy – albeit entirely unwittingly as I judge it – rather well.
There is apparently a second part to this interview of Tsarev at:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1437407481
I think this is the most interesting part:
Quote: “At the meeting, there was a man who remained silent and only listened to the answers, but when his phone rang, he began to talk on the phone in pure English”
Russia vetoed a United Nations Security Council draft resolution set up tribunal for downed flight MH17 on Wednesday
Three countries abstained: China, Angola and Venezuela
http://webtv.un.org/live-now/watch/security-council-ukraine/1686152121001
Yes Scott, Russia did exactly as it said it would.
Funny how the SC has 4 EU countries at the mo – plus NZ and Jordan – very NATO/US heavy. Looks like Chile and Nigeria are in the back pocket too.
Malaysia is a disgrace politicising this esp. as Russia tried to help them:
http://www.rt.com/news/311109-russia-veto-un-tribunal-mh17/
Just another excuse to bash the country trying to get to the truth. S Power is an absolute piece of work using the grieving families as an excuse to bash Russia – how about the US give us all the info they have for a start along with ACT and black boxes recordings etc.- then the families will have something to help them! How about the investigation and facts.
These are astonishingly prophetic words written by a Polish politician in 1931, about how a Russia-less Ukraine would be like It really is amazing how precisely this man, Roman Dmowski, described 84 years ago what is happening now in Ukraine.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/07/hands-off-ukraine-warning-from-past.html
“Hands off Ukraine!”
Published in Mysl Polska [Polish Thought], one of the oldest Polish political weeklies.
By Roman Dmowski
Translated from Polish by J.Hawk
Preface: We are watching what Roman Dmowski warned the Poles against come true. He wrote about this over 80 years ago in a very different political environment. However, his observations and conclusions are unusually relevant to our own time. It’s useful to relate his words one more time, may they prompt reflection among those who succumbed to emotions and false suggestions:
“There is no human force capable of preventing Ukraine, once it is torn away from Russia and transformed into an independent country, from becoming a destination for con-men from all over the world who are unwelcome in their own countries, capitalists, capital-seekers, business organizers, technicians and merchants, speculators and schemers, thugs and pimps: Germans, French, Belgians, Italians and Americans would find assistance by local or nearby Russians, Poles, Armenians, Greeks, and the most numerous and important of all, the Jews. It would be a veritable League of Nations of sorts. This elemental force, with the participation of the cleverest and most business-savvy Ukrainians, will become the country’s leadership elite. It would be a a most remarkable elite, since no other country could boast such a rich collection of international low-life.
Ukraine would become an abscess on Europe’s body; and people who dream of establishing a cultured, healthy, and powerful Ukrainian nation that could mature in its own state would quickly realize that, instead of a state of their own they have gotten an international corporation and instead of healthy development only rapidly progressing rot and decay.
Those who believe that, given Ukraine’s geographic location, its size, and the state of the Ukrainian element, its spiritual and material resources, and the role the Ukrainian question plays in the global economy and politics, it could be otherwise has no imagination whatsoever.
The Ukrainian question has various promoters, both in Ukraine and abroad. There are many among the latter who know perfectly well what they are aiming at. But they are also those who view the question of tearing Ukraine away from Russia in a most optimistic manner. Those naive ones would be best served by keeping their hands off Ukraine.”
Roman Dmowski,
Post-War World and Poland (1931)
J.Hawk’s Comment: Dmowski, being a card-carrying Polish nationalist, understood perfectly well what real nationalism looks like and how Ukraine’s version thereof falls well short of that ideal. The “Ukrainian element” is still not quite up to the task of running the state–if it were, post-Maidan Ukraine would not have become a state that boasts such “a rich collection of international low-life” in top government positions!
Original in Polish:
http://mysl-polska.pl/node/164
Interesting interview. Tsarev obviously knows the zionazis/nazis will not relent, and that the Ukraine will never be human again until those queens and their handlers are gone.
Judging by the fact that Victoria Nuland personally traveled to Kiev to ensure a vote in the Verkhovna Rada to introduce changes to the Constitution of Ukraine, and that due to her arrival the special status of the “separate regions of Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts” is included in the primary text of the Constitution, we may infer that in the negotiations between Russia and USA on Iran, they also discussed Ukraine. On that basis, what do you think about the situation with the economy of Ukraine, and what are the strategic prospects for the country in the near future?