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This is our open thread for the next +- 24 hours to discuss topical issues.
Moderation policy is in full effect.
20 years to fight 80 militants!! That is an eye-opening statistic that needs to go viral.
https://fivegunswest.blogspot.com/2022/06/lenny-bruce-religions-inc.html
Imagine a meeting at the White House. Biden calls in all his advisors, the CIA, the military, the congressional leaders, and says, “You all told me we’d beat Russia in Ukraine, but they’ve beaten us. What’up with that?” Then one of them answers, “But Big Guy, you’ve been in charge of Ukraine policies since day one, when Obama and you took charge. You told us to do all this!” Oh to be a fly on the wall at times like this!
When obumber obomber Ran for office he had a lovely deep voice, relaxed man.
Soon as he took office it went up several octaves to a whiny howl.
Lies and Arrogance and Empire are ugly.
Obamba started this shit , a CIA asset in office.
Oh wait, has there ever been, other than Carter and dumpster- fire, someone who wasn’t a CIA asset or the son of one in Whitey’s house?
At least dumpster fire wouldn’t have started such a big war, just a small one like, Bangladesh or sri Lanka or mogodishu Instead of the biggest nation in the world…
I just use those nations instead of Rhode island for the size factor, not geography..
Is nuclear war inevitable?
Scratch my underarms¿?
“At least dumpster fire wouldn’t have started such a big war, just a small one like, Bangladesh or sri Lanka or mogodishu Instead of the biggest nation in the world…”
Well, this shit started on his watch back in 2013/2014. As well as the Arab Spring, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Egypt etc.
Traditionally Democrats are the worst war mongers in the World, Repubs seems to prioritize screwing their own.
“Traditionally Democrats are the worst war mongers in the World, Repubs seems to prioritize screwing their own.”
Ah, The Kayfabe.
https://grrrgraphics.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/march_of_tyranny1.jpg
“Obamba started this shit , a CIA asset in office.”
I don’t think they need the president to start this shit. They (deep state or whatever) can start this shit no matter what president is in office.
Obama held back on providing lethal weapons. It was under Trump that the US started to supply heavy weaponry to Ukraine. Even though Trump hated Nato and Ukraine and wanted cozy relations with Putin, the deep state made him supply weapons to Ukraine. That just goes to show who calls the shots in Washington.
By sending weapons to Ukraine, Trump tried to show that he wasn’t Putin’s puppet and that there was no reason for the impeachment. It never was about impeachment, it always was about weapons for Ukraine.
Imagine a meeting at the White House. Biden nods off, the meeting quietly moves to an adjacent room so as not to wake him.
Do you think ScKamala has to change his diapers?
Still waiting to know more about that laptop his son relieved hisself of…
What will happen in world affairs if the military confrontation of NATO and Russia results in a decisive Russian military victory using no nuclear weapons and witnessing NATO use of tactical weapons. What backlash against Western leaders would there be with military targets hit by SLBM’s in the UK, or France, or USA or Canada or Poland or Germany? Would Taiwan be taken by China as a result of the defeat of the West? Korea and Japan becoming Protectorates of China and not the USA. Despite the beginning of the demographic collapse for the country. https://china-underground.com/2022/04/19/the-pandemic-accelerates-decline-in-chinas-birth-rate/
Whilst the risk of NATO using Tactical nuclear weapons at this stage is probably low, I’m unsure of the situation once the Ukraine Army collapses (and collapse it will – with lots of NATO equipment but no-one left to use it). Then what will happen.
Best case might be Polish “takeover” of Galicia, with Russia having full control over the East and South (where industry is, and incidentally the very best farmland). Central Ukraine? no idea, but could be unoccupied / contested territory perhaps?
Russia gets its buffer zone, Poland regains historical territory, everyone’s “sort of happy”: with the outcome.
Problem is, this will be very clearly seen as a major “loss” for NATO – after all they had EIGHT YEARS to arm and train Europe’s largest army to the best of their standards, and look how quickly this very large army has collapsed against what is after all a Russian “Expeditionary force”.
Will NATO (actually, the US) take this defeat “on the chin” and call it a day? NO.
Will NATO continue to foment problems, with the obvious “Pivot to Asia” being their next “War of Choice”? – a resounding YES.
So current “score” might be Russia 1, US 0, and the US is keen to address this loss of face. China might be the next target, and China has far, FAR less concern for destruction of those it regards as opponents than Russia had for fighting what were “closely related to Russians” in Ukraine.
If the US thinks a proxy war against China in the South China Sea area’s going to be like the Ukraine conflict, well, they’ve got one hell of a surprise coming – and not a nice one at that.
The Chinese will take a leaf out of Genghis Khan’s book. They will make the Mongol hordes look like choirboys.
The Chinese, like the Russians with Ukraine, have relatives and fellow Chinese in Taiwan. Their aim will again be the same as Russia/Ukraine – to cut out the cancerous elements, while leaving the population and infrastructure relatively intact.
Phil, what give you the idea that “China has far, FAR less concern for destruction of those it regards as opponents than Russia . . .” ???
Your notion goes up against four hard facts.
1. Taiwan with intact cities and many productive factories is worth a lot more to China than a destroyed Taiwan.
2. The people on Taiwan are more Chinese than the ethnic minorities who flourish in mainland China, so why would Beijing treat them with less care ?
3. China plans have a foundation of soft power and economic strength; a US-style campaign of “shock and awe” would be extremely counter-productive.
4. In its long history, China has never gone in for military campaigns of expansion. The only possible parallels I can think of, the attempted reconquest of Mongol territories in modern Xinjiang and Kazhakistan, and the reunification of Southern and Northern China after the Mongols took over all of China, well, those parallels don’t hold up as possible templates.
Bottom line, you need to ask yourself hard questions, because you might have swallowed some Kool-AId.
Russia and China are committed to not interfering in the domestic affairs of other countries, but they will take steps to ensure that countries they deal with are not or do not become, hostile enemies. They are also committed to the UN being enabled to be a neutral agent which can be trusted in its legitimate spheres of action..
I’ve decided to boycott European products and services until they end their anti-Russian sanctions on oil and gas. All this is doing is enriching the Russians at the expense of consumers all over the planet.
The Europeans aren’t hurting Russians but they’re definitely hurting me.
The European regimes are just vassals obeying orders. Boycott them to your heart’s content. Rest assured they are hurting themselves more than anyone else. A big part of the scheme is a huge boost for the US arms trade as their order books fill up for years to come as the vassals’ military budgets expand massively to meet the “Russian threat”. The military industrial complex could not care less what happens in Ukraine. Even if Russia “wins”, there will be no recognition of the new boundaries as the the new Cold War will be every bit as profitable as the last one. No need for any hot wars for a few years. Then there’s all the American LNG the Europeans are lining up to buy as massively inflated prices. That’s the plan. It won’t work, of course, as the whole house of cards is about to come down as the dollar fiat system keeping them all afloat slowly implodes.
Could not have expressed it better.
But I consider it fair to boycott EU stuff while they’re economically attacking me.
“The Europeans aren’t hurting Russians but they’re definitely hurting me.”
Excellent!
I live in Japan where I work as an analyst. The US is very much like Japan in the last years of WWII. Defeated and using suicidal measures to shore up propaganda. https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/usa-civil-war-2023?s=w
The parallels are truly striking. Both nations considered themselves uniquely chosen by God to help improve the countries they brought into their empire. Both came to be dominated by a militant clique after a major victory in battle, war was glorified and dissenters were attacked as unpatriotic. In both cases, a need to secure energy resources was an unspoken driving force behind their bravado. The main difference I see is that the US is sacrificing one of its satrapies’ citizens to the last man rather than its own, who are mostly too pasty and pudgy to be of much use.
..while Europe is in a class of itself – post everything imaginable, there the hired Zombies are now hitting walls, hit closed doors, fall down stairs on an almost regular basis, undoubtly their heads will soon roll in the streets…
Some videos for today.
US weapons up for sale in the Ukraine’s black market:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/us-weapons-black-market:8
Chechen troops liberating the LPR village of Kamyshevakha:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/OqFrBZHpL5kS/
Ka-52s, in action:
https://rutube.ru/video/23292ec42e79d2894f56490eb0b897ab/
Russian sappers demine Azovstal in Mariupol:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/demining-azovstal:4
In the wrong hands those modern weapons are going to be a significant problem in the future. Ideal for extortion / threats against e.g. major air carriers, rail operators or any other groups really (as well as adding significant “fuel” (with associated bystander casualties) to inter-faction warfare).
It is obviously not one or two weapons being “diverted”, rather significant quantities, and having these systems circulating around within a disgruntled population is going to make e.g. policing a great deal harder (no-one’s going to be very keen to drive around “rough neighbourhoods” with the added risk of missile warfare as part of the job description!)
Since the clown named Clinton became POTUS, we have all lived in a society dominated by soulless minions proud of their own pettiness, greed, and ignorance. No differences if they called themselves Dem or Rep, same breed of animals.
https://fivegunswest.blogspot.com/2022/06/atomic-rooster-play-it-again-supreme.html
I refer to them as merely two different sides of the same corrupt & vile coin.
I call them two cheeks of the same backside.
The new Australian PM is Labor.
New Zealand PM:
– On 30 January 2008, at 27, Ardern was elected president of the International Union of Socialist Youth (IUSY) at their world congress in the Dominican Republic for a two-year term until 2010
US election:
Ballot Mules Funded by Obama-Linked NGOs Pouring Billions Into ‘Local Insurgencies’: Chief Analyst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoRp9PpiNQE
The Liberals stole the election 2020
There is an important difference between the urban Liberals and the countryside Conservatives.
Urban Liberals will typical be educated, pro-LGBTQ, pro-Solar energy … among others
To All Posters Complaining About Why the Allied Forces Cannot Stop the Shelling of Donetsk
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The explanation is simple.
The shelling comes mostly from Avdiivka, northwest of Donetsk, some from even farther. Avdiivka is a fortified position of the AFU, headquartered in the city’s industrial zone, similar to Mariupol. The city is under the control of the “Right Sector,” another nazi-fascist group like the Azov “battalion.” They also control the Avdiivka Coke Plant, whose sabotage could lead to an environmental catastrophe not only for the Donbass, but for the entire country, according to Eduard Basurin, Deputy Head of the DPR People’s Militia Department.
The shelling of civilians in Donetsk and the surrounding areas is not just a provocation, hoping the Allied forces will bomb them back unleashing a cataclysmic chemical disaster, they are also baiting the Allied forces for a frontal attack. The shelling and killing of civilians is part of a constant psychological war seeking to alienate the civilian population from the Allied forces.
https://readovka.news/news/98932
…«There is an active combat phase, which is mainly concentrated in the north. Plus, coercion is mainly here in the area of Avdiivka and Horlivka. Therefore, residential areas of all settlements are being shelled. On the one hand, they (the Ukrainians – ed.) think that killing a large number of civilians will change the tactics (of the Russian forces and the forces of the LPR and DPR-ed.). The second is to intimidate people so that they start coming out with protests and demand a change in the tactics of conducting a special operation. This is also done to make the military angry. They (representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine – ed.note) believe that if a person in uniform with a weapon is angry, he will do stupid things that will help the whole world to show who the Russian soldieris, ” the speaker said…
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DPR forces have no intentions to enter Avdiivka, Basurin said.
https://ria.ru/20220524/avdeevka-1790412733.html
DPR forces do not plan to enter Avdiivka, Basurin said
Basurin said that the DPR units do not plan to enter Avdiivka
MOSCOW, May 24-RIA Novosti. The forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic are not going to enter Avdiivka, it is planned to block the logistics routes of the Ukrainian forces in this locality and start negotiations, said the official representative of the DPR Eduard Basurin.
“I refute the statement that ours entered the Avdiivka. This is mainly done by Ukrainian representatives, scaring the entire populationUkraine, and the whole world by the fact that we went to Avdiivka. No, we have not visited Avdiivka and do not plan to visit this locality. After it is completely blocked, then we will deal with Avdiivka,”the official representative of the DPR said on Channel One…
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Allied Forces intention is to encircle Avdiivka slowly but surely, a tactic Basurin called “small boilers.”
https://ria.ru/20220525/kotly-1790567756.html
Basurin spoke about the tactics of small boilers in the Avdiivka area
Basurin: DNR near Avdiivka uses small boilers to save the lives of the population
MOSCOW, May 25-RIA Novosti. The official representative of the DPR, Eduard Basurin, said that the tactics of small boilers are used in the Avdiivka direction, including in preserving the civilian population.
During the broadcast on Channel One, he was asked: “will we use the tactics of small boilers in the Avdiivka direction?”. Basurin pointed out: “we use it, small boilers.”
He explained that this means “when you cut off a certain part of the Ukrainian troops from supplies, from the assistance that they can provide to each other, and then methodical work begins with them, both psychological, informational, and military, in different directions.” “Because, I repeat once again, we are interested in saving as many lives as possible, not only for the Ukrainian military, but also for the civilian population, so that we can then live and work with them,” he added…
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The encirclement and isolation of Avdiivka is already in progress, one of the supply routes in the village of Novoselovka II was cut off. The UkroWerhmacht in Avdiivka is left with one supply route, soon to be cut off.
https://ria.ru/20220601/avdeevka-1792277514.html
DPR forces cut off one of the two supply routes for the Avdiivka garrison of the Ukrainian Armed Forces
DPR units cut off the Avdiivka garrison of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from one of the two supply routes
DONETSK, June 1-RIA Novosti. Units of the Donetsk People’s Republic blocked one of the supply channels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Avdiivka, from where artillery strikes are carried out daily on Donetsk and Yasynuvata. People’s Militia of the DPR in Telegram.
“The village of Novoselovka Two has been liberated from the Ukrainian occupation. The DPR People’s Militia forces took control of a section of the highway, finally cutting off the Avdiivka garrison from one of the two available supply routes.
The encirclement of the Ukrainian group in the city continues, the ministry added…
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Based on the Mariupol experience, the Allied Forces have already plans for finishing the Avdiivka resistance ASAP.
https://readovka.news/news/99472
DPR militia commander Avidzba: Avdiivka plant risks becoming a second Azovstal
“We’ll just fill them in with concrete. We won’t wait for them.”
Commander of the Pyatnashka volunteer battalion of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Akhra Avidzba in his interview with RIA Novosti saidthat the Avdiivka coke plant risks becoming the second “Azovstal”. However, in this case, the militia will not wait so long for surrender.
The plant is located in the village of Avdiivka, on the territory controlled by Kiev.
Kombat Avidzba stressed that after the deadline that will be given to Ukrainian militants to lay down their weapons, they will not have a chance to escape.
“We will show them that we are also humane people, but not so much. We’ll just fill them in with concrete. We will not wait for them, ” he said.
If they do not leave the territory, but will dig in at the factory, as was the case with “Azovstal “, then “they will remain there,” the battalion commander stressed. Recall that on May 24, at 6 am, the Allied forces launched an offensive in Avdiivka. On May 29, the APU was shelled broke out in the building of a former coke plant. There were reports of strong explosions, and a fire broke out on the territory of the complex.
Earlier, Readovka wrote about heavy fighting against the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the area of Avdiivka, Horlivka and Marinka.
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That, in not so much of a nutshell, is the situation behind the shelling of Donetsk and surrounding areas under control of the Allied Forces. The time many posters waste whining, complaining, and telling Russia what to do with the war, they should use it for research and understanding of the complexities of the war effort and the reality of the battleground.
The “Right Sector” is holding the civilian population hostage in a different way here, they are killing civilians then hiding behind the Coke Plant chemicals, hoping the Allied Forces won’t shell back. Those chemicals are a double edge weapon, they can also be used as a weapon against the nazi-fascists by way of a controlled explosion.
Lone Wolf
This explanation merits a post by itself.
Well done.
The Military Summary YouTube Channel is by far the best analysis of the Russia/ Ukraine conflict. They say that Ukraine says that they have retaken 80% of Severodonetsk but Russia says that they (Russia) are in control of over 90% of the city and all Ukie soldiers have left or been killed. Military Summary says we will who is correct tomorrow.
Normally, I would say that what Ukraine is saying is total bullshit. but in this case I’ll wait until tomorrow and see what Military Summary says.
Even if Ukraine has “retaken” some of the city, there has to be a good tactical reason why Russia let it happen.
Regardless, Severodonetsk will soon be liberated.
@ Anton Gorbatow on June 05, 2022 · at 1:13 am EST/EDT
Доверяй, но проверяй?
Trust but verify?
Issue is, who do you trust?
You said normally you distrust Ukraine, well, it is about time you start questioning the Military Summary. This morning I checked the news and the Allied Forces were in control of 80% of Severodonetsk. Then the UkroWerhmacht pushed 50 foreign rats into Lisichansk, who took Severodonetsk for assault, and kicked the Allied forces out in less than 24 hours, and are now in control of 90% of Severodonetsk.
Was Rambo fighting with them, I wonder.
We have to verify our information against a diverse and different sources of info. I can’t judge Military Summary because I never watch it, but in my experience all news sources are questionable, their information has be to be corroborated again and again.
This is war, remember, and the first casualty is truth.
I totally trust Gen. Konashenkov, but I confront the info from Military Chronicle, which I read every day and is one of my main sources of info, against many other news outlets, Readovka, Rusvesna, Vzglyad, RÍA Novosti, TASS, etc., even nauseous RT.
Watch your sources.
Lone Wolf
Thank you for that much needed explanation. I have looked at this – https://t.me/vladlentatarsky/14105 The guy says: — “The main difficulty in conducting offensive operations in Ukraine is that in fact our troops have to rise to the attack when the enemy’s artillery is not suppressed. Reasons why we failed to suppress the artillery:
– The absence or critically small number of artillery radars.
– Lack of effective reconnaissance of enemy artillery positions.
– The absence or meager number of attack UAVs or kamikaze drones to destroy enemy artillery, immediately after detection.
– Lack of organization of counter-battery warfare.
– After the detection of an enemy mortar or artillery position, it took a long time when our artillery could begin to suppress it. This was influenced by two factors: communication and, in fact, the qualification of the servants of the guns.
– Lack of a sufficient number of reconnaissance UAVs for round-the-clock hunting for enemy artillery.
Enough infantry can be thrown into battle, even with AK-12s, or with “mosinkas”, but neither of them will be able to reach the enemy’s positions if enemy artillery is not suppressed. Almost all fighters of assault groups, from different parts of the front, note that the enemy, in 90% of cases, cannot withstand close combat, especially newly formed units, and retreats. But due to the fact that the enemy’s artillery is not suppressed, it is not possible to hold the positions already occupied.
You can gather as many infantry and equipment as you want, but the lack of an effective counter-battery struggle will simply turn any, the bravest army, into “cannon fodder” and interfere with the solution of GEOPOLITICAL TASKS.
It is not the Masonic conspiracy that will stop our troops, but the specific shortcomings in the combat work of each commander.”
Is or was this true in April? Is it partly true depending on which unit is concerned? Thank you.
It is simply relatively unimportant whether to hold the western (industrial) part of Severodonetzk or not, much, much more important is Lytschiansk just west of the river, lying on high ground it commands the surrounding area. It is thus a wise choice to advance slowly further into the industrial (relatively open) western Severodonetzk. The real key regarding the finishing off of the cauldron is the control of Seversk highway (atleast under firecontrol) to seal off the caultdron, and that is what the army is trying to achieve of course for the last week.
Excellent! Best posting I’ve read here in a while. You’ve got the facts down in detail — a knowledgeable picture of the battle zone and you even identified Right Sector.
Very excellent report. Thanks. So basically the Azov militants use terrorist tactics in their battles. Hide in residential areas, take cover around dangerous chemical/nuclear industrial plants, take civilian hostages as shield…
All that is I believe is true. And yet it is certain disappointment to see that even artillery fire from Avdiivka cannot be supressed effectively. In 100 days of war. I am Russian supporter as any. But there are certain deficiencies in Russian military capability that even good Russian Telegram channels like Rybar and Kotenok speak about openly. This is one of them. And yes, I do think Russia will win this war.
Thank you Lone Wolf, excellent explanation.
I was frustrated that the Ukies can cause this kind of damage this far into the operation, but now I see why.
Appreciate your posts thank you
The UkroWerhmacht in Avdiivka is left with one supply route, soon to be cut off.
This suggests that there are still supplies and transport from the west. Since the Ukraine is as big as Texas (or France), it must be a long supply line. Also, the depots must still be well stocked. But of course, we armchair generals keep forgetting that NATO has been digging in for this conflict for 8 years. The Alamo was not a great success for Texas, when its population was 1/100 that of present day Ukraine. However, the eventual outcome was never in doubt.
Great summary, Lone Wolf, and keep up the good work!
Seriously was Iga Swiatek told to make a political speech at the trophy presentation of the women’s French Open?
Do the French not know that the reason for Russia’s special operation was the genocide of millions of Russian Ukrainians? Does Polish Iga not know, herself?
It was a disgrace to hear such continued anti-Russian propaganda particularly at sporting events.
That’s all they have left. Fat western boomers will no doubt nod in agreement with the tennis player, but the grey matter between their ears is the only place left their delusions can coexist with reality.
In time actual facts on the ground will silence all these craven misinformed fruit of the bad tree of neoliberalism.
Let the dead preach to the dead.
“Let the dead preach to the dead.”
😆Perfect! I’m going to have to borrow that!
The genocide of the people of Donbas was about 14,000, with over a million refugees fleeing to Russia..
Glad this report came before going to sleep.
Hope Anton Gorbatow takes a look at it.
Severodonetsk is firmly in control of the Allied Forces, minus minor changes.
‘Nite.
https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/ukraina_utro_5_ijunja_ukrainskie_soldaty_v_uzhase_i_shoke_ot_rossijskogo_solncepeka_unichtozhaet_dazhe_v_okope_12_video/60-1-0-12273
Ukraine – morning of June 5. Ukrainian soldiers in HORROR and SHOCK from the Russian “Solntsepek”, destroys even in the trench! (12 videos)
The morning began with kalibr strikes on Kiev, explosions in the Darnytskyi and Dniprovskyi districts of Kyiv.
Severodonetsk, situation by the end of June 4, 2022. While individual units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the territorial defense are leaving Severodonetsk, withdrawing in small groups to the high bank of the Seversky Donets in Lisichansk, reinforcements from foreign mercenaries and nationalists are being transferred to the city. The counterattack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Metelkino from the industrial zone, the purpose of which was to prevent the creation of a cauldron for the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine holding Borovskoye, was organized and led personally by a deputy from the Servant of the People party Maryana Bezuglaya, one of the main pro-American functionaries in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
During the counterattack, the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered significant losses, the Ukrainian units managed to oust the Russian Armed Forces from the western outskirts of Sirotino and from the village of Lesnaya Dacha, after which the counteroffensive stalled. Reports about the occupation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Metelkino do not correspond to reality.
In the city behind the Armed Forces of Ukraine remains residential buildings in the administration area, south of Gvardeysky Prospekt and the territory of the Azot plant. The rest of the city is controlled by Allied forces.
Correspondents of The Washington Post told about the plight of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area. The Russian military is an order of magnitude superior to the Armed Forces of Ukraine in firepower. Of particular horror are the heavy flamethrower systems TOS-1A “Solntsepek”, which destroy them even in the trenches and the Russian military prefers not to enter into a direct collision, grinding the Armed Forces of Ukraine with artillery. The journalists’ summary is that the defense of the Ukrainian army at Severodonetsk is on the verge of collapse, and their morale is lower than ever.
Our people are pressing on the positions of the VSUshniki in Stary Saltov – the situation in this direction is changing dramatically. The front again returned to Kharkov, all night the volleys and explosions of howitzer shells and MLRS thundered.
Izyum front. Yesterday, Ukropapliks excitedly dispersed the fake that the 35th Army of the Russian Federation was “destroyed” near Izyum. The “destroyed” army in response asked to convey that for the first time they heard about it, and even an expert on multiple deaths from assassination attempts Babchenko with a checkmate notified the author of the fake and its distributors that they did not even know closely what an “army” was.
Meanwhile, in the Krasnolimansky district, ours occupied Sosnovoye (near Svyatogorsk) and Brusovka (near Raygorodok). The offensive in the direction of Slavyansk continues.
There are no changes in Svyatogorsk – the “fiery” retreat from the hermitage does not mean that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are leaving the Lavra altogether. Apparently the fighting will continue here.
“Ukraine may have to give land to Russia as part of a negotiated settlement,” said U.S. President Joe Biden.
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Lone Wolf
Any ideas about the identity of the “foreign mercenaries”? Also any news of the numbers and fate of those captured? All I’ve seen recently are the reports of a couple of low level British mercenaries being charged by the Donetsk PR. I can’t believe they are the only ones. And were all those reported to be in Mariupol just a myth? They seem to have disappeared into thin air. Was a deal done for the return of Russian POWs?
@ ManntheMoon on June 05, 2022 · at 4:07 am EST/EDT
Any ideas about the identity of the “foreign mercenaries”? Also any news of the numbers and fate of those captured?…
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Foreign merc’s identities remain unknown, my best guess, most of them are from the US, UK, and Canada, with an assorted group from other nationalities, Eurobastards, Latin Americans, some Africans (white merc’s from S.A.?). No information is given about how many of them have been captured, in Mariupol or anywhere else, some info on the killed ones for propaganda effect. Allied forces declared no prisoner exchange will be done with merc’s, they will be tried as invaders from foreign land, some of them probably shot.
Hope so. :-)
Lone Wolf
Why is Russia not using bomber aviation with ordinary bombs?
Why expensive TOS-1A?
How is it possible thet ukr. soldiers still fight against TOS-1A?
I would run away.
@mario2:”How is it possible thet ukr. soldiers still fight against TOS-1A?”
Reason is simply. Ukrainian forces as military forces generally in modern warfare are much more decentralized than most people are thinking. If there once were 500 soldiers per combat zone km2, there are now likely just 5-10.
That’s also the main reason why losses of both UaF and RAF are not as high as claimed by Ukie and Russian MoD. Both are claiming around 30,000 enemy soldiers killed. Real numbers are much lower. Many in social media believe than Russian military are publishing “only confirmed” Ukie losses. In reality they are just partly confirmed but most just guesses.
One of the main reasons why RF/DPR/LPR are so slowly pushing Ukies out from Donbas is actually Ukie losses have not been as staggering as Russian military has claimed. When it comes to Ukie claims their numbers (30,000 Russian military deaths) are mostly pure fantasies.
DPR has admitted to have lost some 2,000 killed and over 8,000 wounded/sick cases. LPR losses likely half of those figures. RF official figures are outdated (over 1,300 killed until early April).
Lone Wolf, Thanks for your commentary and updates.
Regarding world events and commentary about world events, I am extremely skeptical and distrustful. I even distrust some well known analysts who appear to be pro Russian. (Of course, Saker and Andrei Martynov excluded).
In this case, I think I didn’t reject the assertion by Military Summary that it is POSSIBLE that Ukraine has retaken some of Severodonetsk because The Saker Team, in the next to last Sitrep, linked a Military Summary video, which, in my mind, gave them some credibility. Secondly, I must admit that I was impressed by their detailed analysis of battles other than the one in Severodonetsk.
If it turns out that Military Summary is “unreliable”, I will unhesitatingly admit that I misjudged them.
Were not the Kalibur strikes in Kiev a warning/retribution for the shelling of Donbas yesterday?
Many thanks for breakdown,of course the filth in the MSM here are saying the Ukrainian counter offensive is gaining ground,i hope the Russians continue to pursue the retreating Ukrainians and stop them from crossing the river to the West side,they should be encircled or destroyed.
The Ukrainian Forces are not retreating, they are ‘Advancing towards the rear’.
ukies used mlrs on donetsk and somewhere else. there was kaliber returns. not sure but didnt take long for ukies to use them on civilians. and to raise stakes .
This briefing by an Autrian army colonle is the best propaganda-free sitrep I’ve seen from the western side.
It gave me the clearest view I’ve had so far of the situation in the Donbass and the significance of the Russians’ failed river crossings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpC1kXhW2Lw. I’d be interested in any comments.
The river crossing photos have been proven to be an embellishment by the habitually lying Ukrainians. All those damaged vehicles were a collection of Ukrainian and Russian equipment. And the dead bodies in the photos were mostly Ukrainians. Typical Ukrainian PSYOP, projection of its nightmare.
Reposting this from MoA :
Allow me to play the contrarian once again here. I like being pessimistic, as it means the future can only reserve good surprises.
I do not totally buy the story about the Ukie army being in shambles. Yes, it’s likely the Territorial Defense Forces are just cannon fodder. But the regular army and elite brigades, like the 79th airmobile, it’s a different story. They are holding the line everywhere, at Sviatogorsk across the Seversky Donets, at Lisichansk, they are fighting for control of the Artemovsk-Lisichanks highway, which is still contested at this moment, and down there in the south Avdeevka remains solidly in control.
I am defiant both against wildly optimistic views (western MSM) which depicts the Ukies as nimble tacticians, and against premature triumphalistic calls which see the Ukie army as about to crumble.
The resistance I see everywhere tells me that 1) the core command and control structure of the UAF still exists 2) there is still fighting spirit 3) supplies (fuel, lubricant, ammo) are still flowing unimpeded up to the Severodonetsk corniche.
Remember when people, end of March, were claiming the Ukies would soon run out of fuel ? Or of ammo ? Even the respectable DPA fell for it. I do not see signs of that, the Ukie artillery is working as fine as ever. When an army has enough Grad rockets to spend to terrorize a city center, it’s not a sign to me that they have to act sparingly.
And after the fall of Mariupol, when people were speculating that it would break the morale of the UAF and we would see massive surrenders ? Hasn’t happened. Even in Severodonetsk, whose situation is nearly hopeless, Ukies are still clinging to part of the city. Only Krasny Liman as a notable example.
My assessment at the moment : the UAF still has a significant fighting capacity. Somehow, they do retain a working artillery, and the supply lines from western Ukraine are working in full, which means that the Russian air force is unable to effectively suppress them. I suspect that the VKS is greatly limited by MANPADS and other anti-air capability. On the Russian side there are worrying signs, the engagement of PMCs and Wagner, weird news like this Botashev guy. I do not yet see a decisive breakdown in the will to fight of the Ukrainians.
Negotiations, Cease Fire, Ceding land…….what may look like Orcs in defiance is really an attempt to hold ground at any cost. The further west Russia moves the smaller the Ukraine gets.
Cheers M
Good comments, except for one misunderstanding: “When an army has enough Grad rockets to spend to terrorize a city center, it’s not a sign to me that they have to act sparingly.”
As for wasting resources on a civilian target, the Ukies have been doing that since 2014, and it got far worse in 2022.
But there’s another reason. Grads spread their rocket warheads over at least 200 meters, as I saw from a video in 2014 where a rural bus stop and checkpoint was attacked. So one salvo would not extinguish an artillery battery. The UkroNazis may not know exactly where Russian artillery is located, or may not be able to control the Grads closely enough. But a target the size of Donetsk, well, even idiots high on drugs could hit that target.
I am a little surprised that the thermobaric weapons don’t get used more. They are effective against troops in dug in positions, which are common in the Ukraine.
Beyond that, a strategy that involves killing as many of the Ukrainian troops as possible would seem to be the best result for Russia. A nasty business, but Ukraine is not going to run out of weapons supplied by the other side, and so it is necessary for them to run out of troops. Thinking along those lines, letting some war materials in might be a good plan, if enough of those doing the transport get killed.
@ Theophilus on June 05, 2022 · at 5:08 am EST/EDT
“…Is or was this true in April? Is it partly true depending on which unit is concerned? Thank you.”
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Thanks for that well thought out report pointing out critical aspects of Russia’s offensive/defensive capabilities.
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@ Igor Vuksanovic on June 05, 2022 · at 3:33 am EST/EDT
All that is I believe is true. And yet it is certain disappointment to see that even artillery fire from Avdiivka cannot be supressed effectively. In 100 days of war. I am Russian supporter as any. But there are certain deficiencies in Russian military capability that even good Russian Telegram channels like Rybar and Kotenok speak about openly. This is one of them. And yes, I do think Russia will win this war.
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I share your sense of disappointment, seeing women, children being killed on the streets of Donetsk.
These are my two pennies in response to both of you.
1) Russia learns from its mistakes, sometimes not at the speed we’d like to, but it does.
Remember good old CCCP catching up with the nazi German war machine, one of the best armies in history ever, it took the blood of a few million Russians for them to learn and turn their multiple defeats into victory.
2) Russian army is playing conservatively, and Putin has declared preserving the lives of soldiers a priority over rapid advance or fast gains.
I do not know whether the report from Theophilus was valid back in April or now, I am not privy to the Russian Army materiel or operational capabilities. However, I have seen many criticisms along the same line, and though I agree with them in principle, I cannot judge whether or how much they are valid.
At some point during the Azovstal/Mariupol campaign, the absence of UAVs was so pernicious for the Chechen brothers, Ramzan Kadyrov bought a bunch of them bypassing the Russian army bureaucracy, which seems to be as bad as any other. I have seen complaints of people trying to deliver so much needed aid to the Donbass, getting bog down in Russia’s border bureaucracy, a real drag.
We all sure hope for the better…
Lone Wolf
It’s a pity that Patrick Lancaster himself doesn’t seem to be aware of the poetic quality of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGeBtl7eHvM that reminds one of the beginning of the film Gladiator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLVQn6jG04
German “Victory”.
German Economy Minister boasts that Germany has cut its exports to Russia by 60%.
http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/06/some-headlines-from-my-friends.html
German exports were the crutch that stopped the EU from falling flat on its face. How many Companies have been bankrupted and jobs destroyed to achieve that “Victory”?
CitizenSmith:”How many Companies have been bankrupted and jobs destroyed to achieve that “Victory”?”
I do understand that many friends of Russia are fantasizing economic destruction of EU but most likely result would be same to EU than to Russia: both suffers heavily but don’t collapse. There is serious demographic decline in both Russia and EU. Aging slowly moving population, less entrepreneurs when boomers retirement, less consumers, less producers, more old women behind wheelchairs. Stagnation is destiny of Russia and EU. Winners are China and especially India with better demographic future.
If what you say is true, Russia begins to look like the Arab oil states: lots of money and a small population. And don’t say “demographic future” until you’ve visited India.
In states like Germany and Sweden a company may put all workers on unemployment benefits for a year or two = cutting wages completely. Then restart production.
Below are two examples (quotes) of Churchill’s doublespeak from his “Iron Curtain” speech given in Fulton, Missouri in 1946, and a couple of observations on the second quote:
“I have a strong admiration and regard for the valiant Russian people and for my wartime comrade, Marshal Stalin. There is deep sympathy and goodwill in Britain — and I doubt not here also — toward the peoples of all the Russias and a resolve to persevere through many differences and rebuffs in establishing lasting friendships.
It is my duty, however, to place before you certain facts about the present position in Europe.
From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic an iron curtain…”
“From what I have seen of our Russian friends and allies during the war, I am convinced that there is nothing they admire so much as strength, and there is nothing for which they have less respect than for weakness, especially military weakness. For that reason the old doctrine of a balance of power is unsound. We cannot afford, if we can help it, to work on narrow margins, offering temptations to a trial of strength…”
In this second quote, one can see how easily the transition from “communism” being the enemy to “Russia” being the enemy was made by Churchill-admiring politicians.
Also, this second quote opens room for reflection about who started the Cold War. This statement was made on March 5, 1946. It advocates Western superiority over a balance of power.
The cold War was started in earnest with the introduction of the german mark not informing and not planning it with the soviet controlled sector, leading to a run to get rid of the old money in the soviet controlled sector, which necessiated absolutly the erection of the ‘wall’ then leading to the blockade – as always a dirty scam trick was used. NATO was formed several years before the forming of the Warsaw Pact, the joining of Germany being a further (low) tipping point.
Hopefully the Russians will be in a position to lay claim to eastern Germany once more IF the US insists on it’s Bases in western Germany – (Germany becoming a neutral de-militarized zone would be an alternative) the Russians gave away eastern Germany for exactly nothing in return back then and gave it for a scam-frenzy scheme to the West worth hundreds of billions in ‘privatization’ benefits !!
@ Micron on June 05, 2022 · at 5:43 am EST/EDT
Reposting this from MoA :
Allow me to play the contrarian once again here. I like being pessimistic, as it means the future can only reserve good surprises.
I do not totally buy the story about the Ukie army being in shambles…
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I don’t believe the Russian Army buys it either. Neither do military experts, commentators, and journalists in Russia. I don’t include the West because most of what they produce is manure for the PSYOPS.
“Military Chronicle” (https://voenhronika.ru/) is falling on a pattern of announcing the UkroWerhmacht has been routed in every other post. I appreciate their updates, but their triumphalism calls me to be cautious with their info, and double check it.
Here is an article about the dangers of underestimating the UkroWehrmacht.
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https://en.topwar.ru/197045-ne-nado-dumat-chto-vsu-demoralizovany-i-skoro-prosto-ubegut-s-peredovoj.html
Do not think that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are demoralized and will soon simply run away from the front line
Recently I watched a video shot by our drone after our artillery worked on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This is a symphony, not a video. Mozart, Tchaikovsky and all the other greats in one video. Fabulous. Grandiose.
It was not the soldiers and officers who did this, but the brilliant artists. Here you have heavy artillery with excellent hits on concrete fortifications. And more modest calibers to completely remove enemy anti-tankers. And mortars to disperse the infantry from the field fortifications. In a word – a symphony … It’s beautiful how the sewing machine went through the fabric …
And I remembered the numerous videos filmed by the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Troops, in which they complain about their commanders and chiefs, who did not fully provide the units with weapons, ammunition, food … They complain that they were not prepared for the database. And, by the way, the fighters are the same teroborontsy, most of them veterans of the ATO. Today they are rowing on the streets of everyone in a row.
Of course, it’s nice to watch such videos. The enemy is defeated!.. Well, almost… Soon all Ukrainian units will scatter like cockroaches, and the operation will end. Only reports from the fronts cool the head a little. The military of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are snapping. The fights are getting serious.
Our units and subunits are fighting not with demoralized and incapable of resistance formations, but with a serious, well-motivated enemy. Yes, and all these “Degtyarevs” and “Maxims” that our TV channels talk about are more exceptions than the rule. The flow of Western aid has not yet stopped.
Then the question arises of why such videos appear, and whether the tears of the Ukrainian military should be believed. Especially in light of the fact that these, frankly, panicky materials have already appeared in the foreign press.
Heroes whose death the West is to blame
The fact that such materials from the allegedly indignant military will appear soon became clear already during the operation to liberate Mariupol. Remember Zelensky’s bravura statements that it is impossible to take Mariupol? Many today gossip about a bluff on the part of Kyiv. But the facts say otherwise.
After the liberation and especially the capture of Azovstal, it became clear that the defense was being prepared there for many months. Armament, ammunition, food, the composition of the garrison – all this is striking in scale. Yes, and equipped positions too. Today it is already safe to say that the NM DPR is one of the most well-armed in Europe. Moreover, armed with the most modern European and American captured samples.
But what did they talk about in the president’s office after Mariupol was taken, and Azov and others were driven into holes under Azovstal? According to Zelensky, the helicopter pilots who broke through to Azov deliberately went to their death on their own initiative. Such an interesting army, where the officers themselves decide whether to fly them on a combat mission or sit at the airfield in a smoking room, because there is strong air defense.
And the prisoners surrendered not because living in the dungeons and waiting for the next shell or bomb to cover you, while not even being able to get to the surface without the risk of being killed, became unbearable. They surrendered because, according to Zelensky, the West did not fulfill its promises and did not provide the defenders of Mariupol with heavy weapons. And any street boy knows that “there is no reception against scrap.”
Even then it became clear that the Ukrainian authorities would do everything to relieve themselves of responsibility. Both the president and the military command. And the choice of those to whom this responsibility can be shifted is rather limited. Either Russia or the West. Attempts to blame everything on the Russians no longer impress Ukrainians, Europeans, or Americans.
It is clear that the task of the enemy cannot be to help Kyiv. So the company began to accuse NATO of insufficient supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There are a lot of materials in the media on this topic. The meaning of the articles is quite simple. Huge, well-armed and motivated Russia is killing ordinary Ukrainian lads, who, apart from “clubs and slings”, have practically nothing. And NATO calmly looks at it.
We have nothing to fight again …
Simply put, Ukraine cannot defend the West without arms supplies. But how do panic videos relate to deliveries? A very indicative example is the famous video of the fighters of the 115th Troop Brigade (Cherkassy), where the company commander Sergey Lapko tells how hard it is for them in the war.
“They already know where we are, and when a Ukrainian tank fires from our side, it gives away our position. And they begin to shoot back at everyone – “Grads”, mortars. And you just pray to survive.”
What follows is a story about how little they prepared. As there was not enough ammunition to carry out firing practice, as there was not enough time for tactical training. The resulting weapons also leave much to be desired. In short, a company of those sentenced to death.
And here is a report about this company and an interview with the commander in a strange way, and we are already used to how the Western media publish materials in the conditions of “freedom of speech”, published in the American The Washington Post. American correspondents accidentally ended up in the same Druzhkovka, where Lapko and his deputy Vitaly Khrus brought the deserted company.
And the tearful interview of the Ukrainian officer ends with a story about the terrible losses that the company suffered during the three months of being on the front line. Of the 120 fighters who left Uzhgorod, 54 remained in the unit! The rest were killed, wounded and … deserted.
Imagine the reaction of an American brought up in the wars in the Hollywood version. Those are the heroes. Three months without Coca-Cola and sauna. And, accordingly, a question for President Biden – why does America help such heroes so little?
Basically, well thought out. In the style of film directors. Heroes who can take on the Russian war machine with little or no weapons, with the most powerful American weapons, the Russian hordes will easily defeat. Hence the simple conclusion – it is necessary to increase supplies to Ukraine! I even think that on Bankovaya they rubbed their hands with pleasure while reading The Washington Post.
But war is not theater or cinema. And the “heroes” from the 115th brigade are not the only teroborontsy who were sent to the front line.
No need to throw snowballs at the snow peak hanging over the valley
And here we move on to the events that began to happen next. Today, 32 territorial defense brigades have been formed on the territory of Ukraine. Of these, 25 were sent to the combat zone. And they are in approximately the same position as the 115th brigade.
The personnel of the brigades, for objective reasons, does not consist of ATO veterans who participated in a completely different war, but is made up of civilians who had little idea of what military operations were. But most importantly, in the post-Maidan years, both of them got used to the fact that any problem can be solved by taking power by the throat.
So Kyiv got a “surprise” almost childish. Even the highly publicized arrest of the “rioters” has not stopped other complaints videos from appearing online. Moreover, there were videos from the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. For example, from the 71st Jaeger Brigade, 14th OBMr. True, the military, unlike the defencemen, are much less radical, because they know what such videos threaten. The avalanche, which was caused by another operation of the information troops, began …
For example, I was very pleased with the situation that happened to a well-known Maidan activist and propagandist Yuri Butusov, editor-in-chief of the scandalous publication Censor.net (banned in the Russian Federation). Butusov called to save Ukrainian soldiers and withdraw them from Severodonetsk and Lysichansk. Let me remind you that Serhiy Gaidai, the head of the Luhansk Regional State Administration, proposed exactly the same thing.
This was enough to forget all “the merits of Butusov as a fighter against Russia.” Almost on the day of publication, he was accused of “information playing along with Russia”, and the people’s deputy Maryana Bezuglaya directly called on the SBU to arrest the journalist Butusov!
But even more surprised was former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. It is absolutely impossible to accuse someone of someone, but this person of pro-Russian sentiments. However, he also called on Zelensky to sit down at the negotiating table with Moscow. And, accordingly, he got his own page on the “Peacemaker”.
That’s how it happens, you can, it turns out, be in the same company with the enemy, without even realizing it. Probably, this situation caused laughter from many worthy people from this list. 90-year-old politician suddenly became pro-Russian…
Will there be a continuation?
This question interests many. Is this really a downfall or one of the many unsuccessful operations of Ukrainian politicians? In my opinion, there will definitely be a sequel. But not in the form in which readers think, far from the real war.
The army exists according to special laws. Especially during the fighting. One of these laws says that you can not send an unfired unit into battle. This threatens to panic not only among the soldiers, but also among the commanders. What, in principle, is happening in the divisions of the TRO. They are not ready for modern combat.
That is why, as I think, in the near future these units will be removed from the front line and disbanded. The personnel will go in parts to replenish the combat units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is not for nothing that Zelensky has already signed an order to extend all the benefits for soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Teroboronets. The experiment with the “type of soldiers”, I think, is over.
Now about spontaneous performances in the troops. I believe that Ukraine has not forgotten the wording “according to the laws of war.” Yes, such a proposal has not yet passed in the Rada, but I am almost sure that in one interpretation or another it will soon be accepted. Will it be another law or an order in the style of Marshal Stalin’s famous order number 227 “Not a step back!” – It’s not clear yet. It is incomprehensible simply because the Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief is too cowardly …
Well, the last. In my telegram channel, I often read comments that UkroSMI publish staged videos about how good things happen somewhere in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I agree, these are often staged videos. Nobody canceled the propaganda. But the way the Ukrainian units are fighting shows that there is no collapse and demoralization there. There is also fighting going on. Common to any war.
So – to be continued, as they say at the end of some series …
Author: Alexander Staver
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There is also a video from infamous Igor Strelkov, who despite the bad emotions he awaken, I respect. Regardless, I take his opinions with a grain of salt. “Military Chronicle” has a short transcript of his video, on the subject of the UkroWerhmacht, which I find very human, and accurate.
https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/silnaja_i_slabaja_storony_soldata_vsu_chestno_i_pravdivo_vot_kak_est_2022/60-1-0-12271
Strengths and weaknesses of an APU soldier. Honest and True – That’s How It Is (2022)
In defense, they are very persistent, a strong sense of camaraderie is developed and there is all the classic set of Russian soldiers. Most of them come from small towns and villages, where the community spirit and sense of elbow have been preserved.
All the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are deceived – they really think that by destroying the Donbass they will make the future of their country happy. They fight to ensure that their children do not speak Russian, which they speak and their ancestors have always spoken.
They have good Western communications (better than the Russian Armed Forces), good and very accurate artillery, and fairly good training – they spent 8 years preparing for war, driving as many people as possible through the ATO zone.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces have almost no aviation and have lost many drones. In the main areas, our troops have more artillery, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces shoot more accurately thanks to intelligence and training, but they have fewer barrels.
After strong blows, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are less stable – large losses quickly knock Bandera out of their heads.
Says Igor Strelkov.
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Lone Wolf
PS: There is no “small” enemy, my father used to say, to teach one never should underestimate one’s enemies. Triumphalism is an enemy we have to watch for.
And they are practicing their maneuvers as if it is a collective west vs Russia from here to some, as yet to be determined, end.
The largest of our transport aircraft have been spotted landing, turning around, and quickly leaving as they concurrently drop off said equipment’s during takeoff, this is during the day.
No doubt this method could be used in the ukraine to quickly rearm whomever, and get the hell out of harms way, if you are going in the right direction.
The German main politicians, much like the MSM, live in some sort of Ivory Tower that is as far removed from reality as it gets. Politicians they might be called, but they are sure no statesmen with even half a brain for real diplomacy. Hünxe they get along so well with the acting-president in Kiew.
DPR published their military losses from 24 Feb to 3 June 2020: 1,988 soldiers and officers killed and 8,199 wounded (medical treatment) . Total losses 10,185. Dead vs wounded ratio 1 to 4.13.
Last week losses: 74 killed and 280 wounded.
Report from Severodonetsk
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Western media manipulation has an effect, and many “reliable” news outlets fell on the fake and phony news coming from the Ukronazis PSYOPS machine.
https://en.topwar.ru/197265-srazu-posle-pribytija-na-okrainu-severodonecka-boeviki-inostrannogo-legiona-ponesli-poteri.html
Immediately after arriving on the outskirts of Severodonetsk, the militants of the “foreign legion” suffered losses
Once again, inconsistencies in the presentation of information by the General Staff of Ukraine, Ukrainian military correspondents and the so-called head of the “Luhansk Regional Military Administration” manifest themselves. The situation has come down to the fact that the contradictions have become frankly conspicuous.
The Ukrainian media published a map a few days ago showing Severodonetsk in red colors – without exception, all city blocks came under the control of Russian troops and the People’s Militia of the LPR. Ukrainian armed formations settled in the industrial zone – on the territory of the Severodonetsk thermal power plant, where the fighting took place.
The day before, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced a “successful operation” of Ukrainian troops in the area of Severodonetsk. It was stated that Russian troops were “thrown back from the village of Metelkino.” This statement was questioned in Ukraine itself, pointing out that Russian troops from Metelkino, with the current disposition, can only be thrown back to Severodonetsk itself … At the same time, the “head of the Lugansk OVA” – a protege of Kyiv – did not confirm the information about the “thrown” of the RF Armed Forces.
In order to somehow smooth out frank contradictions and, as they say, play along with the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, Ukrainian and Western media published a map on which the disposition was at least a week old – the line of contact along the Central Avenue of Severodonetsk. Then, realizing that it looks ridiculous and cannot correspond to reality, the line of contact was nevertheless moved to the west, which once again speaks of attempts to manipulate information.
According to one of the Western media reports, it becomes clear that there is no talk of any “positions recaptured from the RF Armed Forces” in Severodonetsk.
It turns out that militants of the so-called foreign legion have arrived on the territory of the industrial zone of Severodonetsk.” In fact, this is a bandit formation in which citizens of various countries are gathered. For example, these are militants from Georgia and Australia. They communicate with each other in English. Among the weapons are American Javelin anti-tank systems.
It is noteworthy that within a few minutes after arriving on the outskirts of Severodonetsk, the foreign “legion” suffered its first losses. A Georgian mercenary was wounded, who was loaded into an army armored vehicle for evacuation. After the shelling – a few more “three hundredths”. Further “successes” of foreign mercenaries, who immediately came under attack after arriving on the outskirts of the city, are not reported:
Radio Liberty video (in the Russian Federation it has the status of a media-foreign agent):
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Lone Wolf
@Matias” 24 Feb to 3 June 2020: 1,988 soldiers and officers killed and 8,199 wounded (medical treatment) ”
24 Feb – 3″ June 2022: 1,986 killed DPR military and police.
LPR published in 4 April to have lost 500-600 soldiers killed. There losses until early June might be that’s why around 1,000 killed and likely around 4,000 wounded.
So both allies have lost 3,000 killed and over 12,000 wounded/injured.
If RF have lost as much the total losses of RF/DPR/LPR be around 6,000 killed and 24,000 wounded/injured.
During Jom Kippur War there were 4 to 6 soldiers killed per lost one tank. (Israel forces could reduce their tank losses to less than 500 by evacuating and repairing almost 400 damaged AFV).
“In Kiev, a large concentration of T-72 tanks was DESTROYED! HARD VIDEOS of fighting from the fronts of Ukraine – noon June 5 (17 videos)”
https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/v_kieve_unichtozheno_bolshoe_skoplenie_tankov_t_72_zhestkie_video_boev_s_frontov_ukrainy_polden_5_ijunja_17_video/60-1-0-12274
Second video from the link above is quite interesting, Russia TOS-1 Heavy Flamethrower launcher firing a close range salvo, flat trajectory in the Mykolaiv-Kherson region…
Z+
I found this, which might explain Phase II, and the withdrawal from the Kharkov / Kiev areas:
The Great Commanders – 106 – Georgy Zhukov
https://youtu.be/9RNmz8ARKc8?t=1265
Zhukov: approx: “It is easier to fight them in an open field than a city and the more troops they pour in here the easier it will be to take Berlin later”.
So, there it is. Invite battle in the open fields, let the enemy pour in weapons and reinforcements, once that is done, go for the cities. Thus they chose the Donetsk and Luhansk republics to fight in and allowed them to be reinforced, then withdrew from Kharkov and Kiev, luring the Ukrainian defenders out into the open.
*Also, another thing from the above video I did not know: The West allowed the Russians to take Berlin because such an assault would result in a high number of casualties for the Russians, not the Allies. (sounds familiar, no?)
Commander of the Strategic Missile Forces: The second regiment of ICBMs with the Avangard hypersonic unit is preparing to take up combat duty
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A regiment of UR-100N UTTKh ICBMs with the Avangard hypersonic warhead is preparing to take up combat duty. ICBMs in mine installations are deployed as part of the Yasnenskaya division of the Strategic Missile Forces, deployed on the territory of the Orenburg region. This was announced by the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces Sergei Karakaev on the air of the Military Acceptance program.
According to the colonel-general, this is already the second regiment of ICBMs with the Avangard hypersonic unit deployed as part of the Yasnenskaya division, the first regiment took up combat duty in 2019, when the first two UR-100N UTTKh intercontinental ballistic missiles equipped with combat block. In December 2020, two more ICBMs with Avangards joined them. The number of missiles in the second regiment has not yet been disclosed. The approximate date for the second regiment to take up combat duty is December 2022. In total, at the first stage, the Strategic Missile Forces will deploy two regiments with Avangards, each of which will have 6 silo-based ICBMs.
As Karakaev stressed, today the missile defense of no country is capable of intercepting the hypersonic blocks of Russian ICBMs.
In general, according to the plans of the Strategic Missile Forces, this year four new regiments should be deployed, of which two are on the Yars mobile ground missile systems in the Kirov and Tver regions, one regiment with the Avangard hypersonic complex in the Orenburg region and a regiment with the latest Sarmat ICBMs “in the Uzhur missile formation.
It should be noted that Sarmat ICBMs will later become carriers of Avangard hypersonic units, today they are UR-100N UTTKh ICBMs.
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https://topwar.ru/197299-komandujuschij-rvsn-vtoroj-polk-mbr-s-giperzvukovym-blokom-avangard-gotovitsja-k-zastupleniju-na-boevoe-dezhurstvo.html
Pucará: Armed Forces of Ukraine complain about the large-scale deployment of electronic warfare equipment by the RF Armed Forces in Donbass
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The tactics of the Ukrainian army began to falter. They acted in small groups, consisting of regular military personnel, fought hasty battles, relying on good equipment and UAVs . Drones were used to organize ambushes and to aim artillery.
However, due to the loss of armored vehicles and a significant reduction in personnel, the maneuvers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have become less successful, writes Pucará Defensa . In addition, the UAVs also did not live up to expectations:
“The Armed Forces of Ukraine rely heavily on UAVs for tactical reconnaissance, especially in the Donbass (where the battlefield is too far away for real-time NATO surveillance). Now the situation has changed and requires urgent solutions: the Ukrainian military complains about the massive deployment of the RF Armed Forces of electronic warfare in Donbass”.
Russian electronic warfare systems block any signals, preventing enemy UAVs from transmitting information and controlling them. The strategy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass has failed.
Читайте больше на https://military.pravda.ru/news/1715811-sredstva_reb/
Der Spiegel is reporting that German intel (BND) has seen the future, and it doesn’t look good for Ukraine,
https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/rossija_oderzhit_pobedu_na_donbasse_v_blizhajshie_nedeli_der_spiegel_vechernie_svodki_s_ukrainy_5_ijunja_20_video/60-1-0-12275
“Russia WILL WIN in Donbas in the coming weeks” — Der Spiegel. Evening reports from Ukraine on June 5 (16 videos)
Germany’s foreign intelligence believes that ukrainian resistance could be broken in the next four to five weeks. In a series of secret briefings in recent days, BND analysts have noted that the Russians are capable of conquering small swaths of territory every day. The BND believes that Russian troops can take control of the entire Donbas by August.
The Artemovsk-Lisichansk highway is under very tight fire control of the Russian Armed Forces. It is possible to move along it only with great risk and almost 100 percent guarantee that the car will come under fire. Only small groups jump in there. In fact, this is a recognition that the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply cannot restore full control over the road. Accordingly, the preservation of fire control over the Artemovsk-Lisichansk highway, coupled with strikes on secondary supply lines, will lead to a further deterioration in the supply of the entire Severodonetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, both in the Severodonetsk industrial zone and in Lisichansk itself.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have a shortage of freight transport – the main equipment of the Ukrainian army in this direction for the supply and transfer of troops.
In Kharkiv region. Since yesterday, there has been fighting in Tsupovka. According to very bold statements of local residents, the Armed Forces of Ukraine already control Tsupovka and are about to continue the offensive on Cossack Lopan. There is no actual confirmation of this, artillery strikes are being carried out on Cossack Lopan.
The second direction of impact is the Great Passages. Despite the withdrawal of Ukrainian units from the vicinity of the Nursery, today the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to regain the initiative.
On the eastern flank there are battles in the area of Ternovaya and on the border of Rubezhnoye – Stary Saltov. The Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred armored vehicles and reinforcements from the National Guard. Grad MLRS launchers were transferred in Zolochiv, and the active work of foreign MANPADS was noted in Chernoglazovka and Cherkassky Tishka. The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to be strengthened on the eastern bank of the Seversky Donets. Fortified areas are equipped in the vicinity of the Pecheneg reservoir and Khotomli. The section of the road from Hotomli to Primorskoye is under the actual control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The Russian Armed Forces struck at the Korotych airfield in the suburbs of Kharkiv, where, according to preliminary information, Ukrainian MiG-29s were transferred.
Today, in the course of performing the tasks of a special military operation, Major General Roman Vladimirovich Kutuzov, call sign “Tuman”, was killed. The tragedy occurred in the village of Nikolaevka, Popasna district of the LPR. A real combat general, a patriot of his motherland, died at the front, defending it.
US President Biden can organize the Korean scenario of dividing Ukraine into two different states. The American authorities became the reason for the division of Korea into northern and southern. A similar thing can happen to Ukraine, according to an article by the most influential US newspaper, The Washington Post.
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Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf: The Washington Post is a mouth piece of the US State Department, they send out DOS trial balloons of policy options to test global reactions. Some reporters are literally in governmental payrolls.
Influential? Not really. They function as one PSYOPS channel for the US government. WP has behaved the same under Democratic and Republican administrations.
Most people would not consider a tail-wagging dog, hoping for juicy tips, influential, wouldn’t they?
Sorry, WaPo is CIA/Intel community, NY Times is the State Department leak of choice.
@ KitaySupporter on June 05, 2022 · at 6:29 pm EST/EDT
Lone Wolf: The Washington Post is a mouth piece of the US State Department, they send out DOS trial balloons of policy options to test global reactions. Some reporters are literally in governmental payrolls.
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I agree with you, a hundred per cent.
I didn’t post the article for what the WaPo has to say, but for what Der Spiegel reported about German intel forecasting for Ukraine. Describing the WaPo as “the most influential US newspaper” is not only ridiculous, it is laughable. Its influence can be barely felt outside the Beltway, it was already a newspaper in decline before Bezos bought it, and all pretenses of “independent” journalism died with the purchase.
I can see your point, I don’t understand what you’re trying to make with it. In other words, you’re preaching to the converted.
Lone Wolf
Hear! Hear! Appreciate Saker team’s work. Good hunting.
Military expert Boris Rozhin with a brief summary of the results of the operation for denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine in the area of the settlement. Severodonetsk at 22.30 June 05, 2022 specially for the channel Voenkor Kotenok Z @voenkorKotenok :
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Fighting continues in the area of the industrial zone of the Azot plant. The enemy also maintains communication with Lisichansk through one of the damaged bridges – heavy equipment passes there with great difficulty, but vehicles pass.
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The transfer of reinforcements from Lysichansk to Severodonetsk, after the Armed Forces surrendered almost the entire city, made it possible to stay in the Azot area and start fighting in the adjacent residential area, while the Ukrainian sources themselves admit that there is no ambition to recapture Severodonetsk.
Fighting will accordingly continue in the industrial area, and part of Severodonetsk will soon turn into an analogue of Mariupol in terms of the destruction of high-rise buildings and other residential buildings, taking into account the active work of the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Severodonetsk.
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It is unlikely that the command of the RF Armed Forces planned to storm Lisichansk head-on after taking the industrial zone of Severodonetsk. The real assault on Lisichansk will begin when they break through the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Privolye and Ustinovka, advancing to the outskirts of the city, regardless of what happens in the industrial complex.
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Of key importance for all these battles is the struggle for the Artemovsk-Lysichansk highway, since control over it devalues any efforts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to hold Lisichansk and Severodonetsk, unless, of course, there is a plan to sacrifice the entire grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as all foreign mercenaries who were thrown on hold Azot industrial zone.
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So far, the RF Armed Forces have ensured complete fire control over the route, which has already affected the supply of Severodonetsk and Lisichansk. But there is no complete block on the highway yet, so individual vehicles and groups are still passing, but full-fledged supply, which was possible back in the first half of May, can no longer be ensured, despite all efforts to push the RF Armed Forces away from the Belogorovka and Berestovoye area. The current task of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in this direction is to grind the enemy’s reserves in oncoming battles and cross the Artemovsk-Lysichansk highway.
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Naturally, the activity of the RF Armed Forces in the direction of Seversk is also expected, since the taking under fire control (which is not yet available) of the Artemovsk-Seversk-Lysichansk highway will lead to the notorious operational encirclement of the Severodonetsk grouping, which will simply lose the ability to supply through Artemovsk, and any retreat will be associated with serious losses.
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Therefore, in the near future, on the one hand, we will observe positional battles in the area of the Severodonetsk industrial zone and high-intensity battles north of Soledar.
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@ Thomas Turk on June 05, 2022 · at 7:27 am EST/EDT
Were not the Kalibur strikes in Kiev a warning/retribution for the shelling of Donbas yesterday?
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Correct, yes, they were. And Putin announced more to come, if Ukraine gets long-range missiles.
https://en.topwar.ru/197284-rossijskie-vs-nanesli-seriju-udarov-vysokotochnymi-raketami-po-kievu.html
Russian armed forces launched a series of strikes with precision-guided missiles on Kyiv
A series of explosions this morning thundered in Kyiv, the Russian Armed Forces launched strikes with high-precision missiles on the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Ukrainian capital. According to a number of Russian TG channels, Russia launched retaliatory strikes on Kyiv for yesterday’s shelling of Donetsk.
According to Ukrainian sources, this morning Kyiv was awakened by a series of powerful explosions that thundered in two districts of the Ukrainian capital. Eyewitnesses report Russian cruise missiles flying over the city, explosions, fires and large plumes of black smoke rising from the missile impact sites.
The shelling of the city was also confirmed by the mayor of Kyiv, Klitschko, who reported several explosions in the Darnitsky and Dneprovsky districts of the capital. According to him, emergency services are working on the spot, Klitschko promises to provide detailed information later. Podolyak, an adviser to Zelensky’s office, has already stated that the target of the strike was the civilian population of Kyiv, but Klitschko emphasized that there were no casualties as a result of Russian strikes. Again, the Ukrainian authorities could not agree on what to tell the people about.
Later, an adviser to the head of the office of the Ukrainian president, Sergei Leshchenko, said that the targets of the Russian missiles were objects of Ukrzaliznytsia, i.e. railroad. We cannot confirm or deny this information, there is no official information from the Russian Ministry of Defense on the impact, perhaps it will be announced in the daily report. The attacks on Kyiv were carried out by high-precision air-launched missiles.
Meanwhile, yesterday the Russian Armed Forces inflicted a series of strikes on Nikolaev, flying both through the territory of the city itself and the seaport. Local websites reported a series of strong explosions in the port, according to available information, there were ammunition depots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fire that broke out in the port, firefighters could not put out until the evening.
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Lone Wolf
“Podolyak, […] stated that the target of the strike was the civilian population of Kyiv”
Now how could he possibly know that? He’s lying.
I want one of those Bmp-1/2’s I’d want the gun replaced with some gear off an excavator and a big claw for civilian operations of course…
Many people have had their access to the Strategic Culture website cut. You are great at reposting Pepe Escobar’s articles published there but not others. One writer Pepe often cites is Alastair Crooke, who also has his essays published by Strategic Culture. I hope you’ll allow my copy/pasting of Crooke’s outstanding essay from today to be placed onto this open thread so people can read what they’re being kept in the dark about. I usually can do this at the MoA blog but this time the software won’t allow me to do so. As you can see, I took pains to properly format it and add the links Crooke provided. If you do allow this, please erase this header. Thanks!!
Today’s Crooke Essay, “The World Doesn’t Work That Way Anymore”. All emphasis is original.
karlof1, let me correct a perception. We don’t cross-post without permission. In addition, Strategic Culture is censored by the US Department of State so, we don’t usually post their links, not by our choice but by coercion.
You will see on top of any of Pepe’s articles that he expressly allowed us to post his work as well as the terms under which he allows us.
Thanks for your clarification. I will say that thousands/millions have had their access cut. As I noted, I’m usually able to copy/paste similar items at the Moon of Alabama web site at the end of a dead thread so it doesn’t interrupt discourse. It may have been a certain hyperlink that was disallowed (Saker and other websites have been blocked by MoA’s site’s software thus preventing the comment from posting and forcing its removal if the commentator goes through that effort). I trust this will be a one-off thing. But in the current Information War, IMO we need to provide writers of Truths platforms where they can be read, a position in which I know you concur.
Thanks again,
Karl Sanchez aka karlof1
Hi Karl, at some stage we resort to samizdat, i.e., guerilla warfare.
Take a look at what is happening over at Consortium News: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/06/02/us-state-affiliated-newsguard-targets-consortium-news/
Thanks for your reply! I already use what I call electronic samizdat–my VK space. I was amazed by David Korten’s predictions in his When Corporations Rule the World, but he was correct in too many cases.