Thank you Messrs (are we still allowed to use the term in this age of LBTQ++ and wokeness nonsense?) Escobar and Brown. And thank you The Saker for putting this engrossing conversation up.
An hour well spent listening to two personalities, two well-travelled clear-eyed observers of the state of the world. Great insights about events in the ME right up to Asia and China.
After the Alaska debacle the likes of Blinken, Sullivan, their advisers and a host of ‘Asia experts’ or ‘old Asia hands’ from assorted think tanks should invite these two men, pay them well and give them a good listen. Maybe they’ll learn something *true* about Asia. Unfortunately that will only happen when pigs fly.
Where does “LBTQ++” come in? Are you insinuating that Pepe and Brown are in a homosexual relationship? Cannot two men have a good, even intimate relationship without being suspected of having a homosexual relationship?
Look at the relationship between David and Jonathan in the Bible. There was not even a hint of homosexuality between them despite their very close relationship.
Simon, respectfully, I think maybe a little off the mark here? The poster is just half-joking about using the term ‘Messrs’ in our upside-down ‘multiculti’ world. No harm was intended.
i saw a AAP article about biden reversing trumps everything and blinken utterly scolding pompeo for his pandering to the christian right. wtf the zionist neocons awaiting rapture and the world court in Jerusalem? anyway blinken claims to be fairer and working with allies. it was way to ridiculous to read. him himself being one of the many zionists appointed in bidens inner circle
many thanks to saker for a full diet of healthy information on a day many media sought to prank with jokes
not only sanctioning! they, literally, rob other nations´ treasury, public bullion & monetary reserves (Iraq, Libya & the newest one, Lebanon, where the Judeo-Zionist banksters took away the clients’ deposits in the banks). “globalist” gangsterism is on play all over the world.
America & its electoral “democratic” process generated all those Judeo-Zionist monsters who have enslaved the West by the financial & monetary means they create from thin air. Where are the so-called US Patriots who are about to lose their country, their currency, their pride, their honor, & in the bottom fringe of the moral matrix? Wanting to live at the expense of the rest of humanity is so dearly paid!
Whenever Pepe writes or converses with others, we get good vibes. Clarity, detailed historic context and up-to-date information from the human sources Pepe knows or newly meets.
I don’t want to change the vibes, but Ukraine is glowing red hot of late.
The two big militaries of Russia and the US have talked about the situation. Meanwhile, the Russians are preparing calmly for war. They are moving very heavy equipment and elite forces to defend the border of Crimea.
This is extremely serious preparation. If Zelensky’s proclamation to retake the Crimea establishes a cause of war imminent. Russia has ever reason to believe the Ukies will do the unthinkable and impale their forces on the Russian defense. Specifically, Zelensky indicates the prime target is Sevastopol (the US/NATO goal that was denied by the vote of the people and the actions of the polite green men in 2014.)
Sevastopol, historically and legally, is and always continued throughout Ukraine’s unconstitutional administration of Crimea as a federal city of Russia. To declare, as Zelensky has done by his proclamation, that the Ukies will attack Sevastopol is the same as if he decreed the target is St.Petersburg or Moscow.
Everyone of the age of reason with a modicum of knowledge about Russian history knows that every Russian in Crimea peninsula will fight to the death in its defense. And, tens of millions of Russians will join the fight.
So, we see the stakes are total on the Russian side. When General Gerasimov throws his men into this defense, it is impossible to know the result. He might do what Putin indicated and end the nation-statehood of Ukraine. Certainly, the present government in Kiev will be killed or captured and tried as war criminals. The Ukie military will totally surrender to the Russians. The NATO advisers will likely be publicly marched as prisoners of the Russians.
And many cities in Novorossiya may be left to chose new leaders.
One thing certain, if the Ukies begin a war action, they will never begin another.
Joe Biden in that last hours has had a phone conversation cheering on the Zelenky action.
Of course. Biden and the Dems have used Ukraine as a money laundering-black money machine and he will do what he can to save this cesspool of corruption. The Dems depend on the money that they turn around in Kiev for their corrupt election efforts, as well as for personal aggrandizement.
We are prepared for war, intellectually. We see it could happen.
Knowing why it will happen is just as important.
Biden needs Ukraine, wants the money from Ukraine and thinks (as best his addled mind can) he will bloody Putin and Russia.
What he cannot see is there will be no Ukraine after they start this insanity.
The Russians will crush whatever is in Ukraine that threatens them, or Crimea, Donbass or the borders.
Yes, of course. I’m no military analyst but it seems to me that this will be so fast that we will blink and it is over. It has to be, because of the very scary consequences downstream. I have no hesitation that Russia and General Gerasimov will do what is necessary if and when they deem the time right – and the stakes are total as you say.
I have a terrible feeling for afterward – the real losers ya know, and their actions – the ones that Andrei Martyanov’s speaks about. http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2021/04/they-neocons-may-have-anger-issues.html
We’re at that point Larchmonter, where we may turn into glass.
You know, I just started to calm myself after I read Zelensky’s proclamation about preparing to invade Crimea. I truly wanted to get back to Holy Week given that today we mourn the memory of Christ’s crucifixion.
But no, those Ukrainian cretins have to start up some nonsense and puts me in a different frame of mind. I have three questions for you since I value your knowledge and expertise on tactical matters.
Q1. I have not read the Kremlin is proactively asking the UN Security Council to convene and call for Ukraine to retract its declaration to engage in military hostilities against the Russian Federation. Shouldn’t Russia do this first and denounce Ukraine’s intentions to invade another sovereign country that is a nuclear power?
Q2. Kaliningrad oblast has been shadowed lately by NATO dung flies harassing Russian Aerospace Forces. Do you believe NATO would coordinate a military attack with the Baltic States, Poland and the Ukraine Nazis and fight the Russians on two fronts (Crimea and Kaliningrad)?
Q3. This is a tough one. What will Russia do if the U.S. sails its warships into the Black Sea claiming to be an “observer” but becomes drawn into a combat scenario by a “fog-of-war” false flag?
I had the thought recently that all this hardening of diplomatic language from both China and Russia in concert may indicate that they are actually preparing their own people for true military action. We often talk about the US doing this with its own population (which I personally somewhat doubt, actually) – but we’ve never had cause, until now, to think that this might be something the other countries could do.
We theorized in recent years that the US had a serious “slap” coming to it – and then Iran administered that slap back in January 2020.
After this, the next thing would seem to be an actual military defeat in some way, in some theater. Could be China in its sea, could be Russia in Syria or Ukraine. Those are just the most obvious candidates at the moment, but it could be anywhere.
But it has to be an actual military action that may perhaps even kill US soldiers – that old red line would finally get crossed. It would force a retreat and perhaps even force the US to sue for ceasefire.
I suspect both Russia and China have worked to harden their populations, and this wasn’t difficult as the US has given multiple provocations for natural patriotism to rise in both countries, and domestic media has shown the truly contemptible nature of the enemy in irrefutable clarity.
Alternately, I suppose the diplomats themselves could be getting carried along on this tide of patriotism, but either way both countries seem finally ready to hurt the US in an unmistakable way.
It may be that we are about to see the US get the defeat that we have theorized for some time. If this happens, it will be because Russia/China have calculated the outcome to many decimal places, and so my only prediction here would be that the US will take it.
Just as it took the slap from Iran, it will take this military defeat in public – raising hell in bluster, but not escalating in real terms.
I was a child living in AK, before it was a State. Father was profoundly devastated when the “Global War On Terror” was begun. I found it very interesting a meeting was held there. Alaska was in essence a gift via Russia, and clearly is not appreciated. China, Russia, Et Al, do not choose to be the “evildoers'” vassals. No matter what the Grand Chessboard players attempt, to checkmate, the enlightened diplomats … game over resoundingly in heaven & earth. How to prepare for a potential nuclear winter? Is the rumor Galactic Federation worth investigating/signaling SOS?! Safe shelter/s, Food, H20, Off Grid?!! Thank You Again Saker, am to send you an important read, once I finish the copytyping.
Could that not be somehow a coordinated “action” between US and Ukraine in order that when Russia is attacked at Crimea, Border at Ukraine and Sevastopol the USA attacks at any other point, for example at the borders on the Pacific, maybe with some underwater equipment or something like this (I don’t understand military actions therefore my humble explanation). I think that USA maybe think if Russia is involved on the European side USA has a free ride on the Pacific side. And eventually even so in Middle East.
So. Brown is a communist. Charming.
Anyway, don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. I appreciate resisting the empire. But last part of this was a bit silly.
What a pleasure! I love to listen to Pepe—his knowledge is so broad and deep, and also based on human observations and exchanges. And that laugh! Alternating with very serious observations. It ‘s like Pepe has been around so many countries, so many different kinds of people, that his awareness of the human tragicomedy is the context of all of his observations.
Jeff is not a bad partner for him. Not as brilliant, but he tossed plenty of balls to Pepe that Pepe easily caught and ran with and dribbled and dropped a few baskets.
Thank you Messrs (are we still allowed to use the term in this age of LBTQ++ and wokeness nonsense?) Escobar and Brown. And thank you The Saker for putting this engrossing conversation up.
An hour well spent listening to two personalities, two well-travelled clear-eyed observers of the state of the world. Great insights about events in the ME right up to Asia and China.
After the Alaska debacle the likes of Blinken, Sullivan, their advisers and a host of ‘Asia experts’ or ‘old Asia hands’ from assorted think tanks should invite these two men, pay them well and give them a good listen. Maybe they’ll learn something *true* about Asia. Unfortunately that will only happen when pigs fly.
Where does “LBTQ++” come in? Are you insinuating that Pepe and Brown are in a homosexual relationship? Cannot two men have a good, even intimate relationship without being suspected of having a homosexual relationship?
Look at the relationship between David and Jonathan in the Bible. There was not even a hint of homosexuality between them despite their very close relationship.
Simon, respectfully, I think maybe a little off the mark here? The poster is just half-joking about using the term ‘Messrs’ in our upside-down ‘multiculti’ world. No harm was intended.
Thank you Amarynth.
Yes, I was taking a pot-shot at the rainbow crowd actually. Meant no harm to Jeff and Pepe obviously.
Glad to know that my comments are read by somebody though ;)
Cheers.
I cannot get enough of Pepe Escobar.
I hope Saker and Pepe will do a video hookup.
Larchmonter445, my God did you see this breaking news??
Zelensky has signed an order to retake Crimea and Ukrainian battle tanks are being shipped on flatbed rail cars moving to the east.
https://www.president.gov.ua/documents/1172021-37533
I cannot believe this is actually happening. I pray for Auslander and his family and hope they can seek refuge someplace safe.
Perfect! This helps Russia establish that the war is Ukraine’s initiative and proves Russia is not an aggressor.
The Russian Southern District will utterly destroy the Ukies.
If NATO joins in, they will be utterly destroyed, also.
As for Auslander, he and his wife and the collies are safer in Sevastopol than anywhere.
It is the most heavily defended place on Earth.
Zelenski will be dead or prosecuted as a war criminal if somehow he is not killed.
i saw a AAP article about biden reversing trumps everything and blinken utterly scolding pompeo for his pandering to the christian right. wtf the zionist neocons awaiting rapture and the world court in Jerusalem? anyway blinken claims to be fairer and working with allies. it was way to ridiculous to read. him himself being one of the many zionists appointed in bidens inner circle
many thanks to saker for a full diet of healthy information on a day many media sought to prank with jokes
not only sanctioning! they, literally, rob other nations´ treasury, public bullion & monetary reserves (Iraq, Libya & the newest one, Lebanon, where the Judeo-Zionist banksters took away the clients’ deposits in the banks). “globalist” gangsterism is on play all over the world.
America & its electoral “democratic” process generated all those Judeo-Zionist monsters who have enslaved the West by the financial & monetary means they create from thin air. Where are the so-called US Patriots who are about to lose their country, their currency, their pride, their honor, & in the bottom fringe of the moral matrix? Wanting to live at the expense of the rest of humanity is so dearly paid!
Whenever Pepe writes or converses with others, we get good vibes. Clarity, detailed historic context and up-to-date information from the human sources Pepe knows or newly meets.
I don’t want to change the vibes, but Ukraine is glowing red hot of late.
The two big militaries of Russia and the US have talked about the situation. Meanwhile, the Russians are preparing calmly for war. They are moving very heavy equipment and elite forces to defend the border of Crimea.
This is extremely serious preparation. If Zelensky’s proclamation to retake the Crimea establishes a cause of war imminent. Russia has ever reason to believe the Ukies will do the unthinkable and impale their forces on the Russian defense. Specifically, Zelensky indicates the prime target is Sevastopol (the US/NATO goal that was denied by the vote of the people and the actions of the polite green men in 2014.)
Sevastopol, historically and legally, is and always continued throughout Ukraine’s unconstitutional administration of Crimea as a federal city of Russia. To declare, as Zelensky has done by his proclamation, that the Ukies will attack Sevastopol is the same as if he decreed the target is St.Petersburg or Moscow.
Everyone of the age of reason with a modicum of knowledge about Russian history knows that every Russian in Crimea peninsula will fight to the death in its defense. And, tens of millions of Russians will join the fight.
So, we see the stakes are total on the Russian side. When General Gerasimov throws his men into this defense, it is impossible to know the result. He might do what Putin indicated and end the nation-statehood of Ukraine. Certainly, the present government in Kiev will be killed or captured and tried as war criminals. The Ukie military will totally surrender to the Russians. The NATO advisers will likely be publicly marched as prisoners of the Russians.
And many cities in Novorossiya may be left to chose new leaders.
One thing certain, if the Ukies begin a war action, they will never begin another.
Joe Biden in that last hours has had a phone conversation cheering on the Zelenky action.
Of course. Biden and the Dems have used Ukraine as a money laundering-black money machine and he will do what he can to save this cesspool of corruption. The Dems depend on the money that they turn around in Kiev for their corrupt election efforts, as well as for personal aggrandizement.
We are prepared for war, intellectually. We see it could happen.
Knowing why it will happen is just as important.
Biden needs Ukraine, wants the money from Ukraine and thinks (as best his addled mind can) he will bloody Putin and Russia.
What he cannot see is there will be no Ukraine after they start this insanity.
The Russians will crush whatever is in Ukraine that threatens them, or Crimea, Donbass or the borders.
And the devil can have the remains.
Yes, of course. I’m no military analyst but it seems to me that this will be so fast that we will blink and it is over. It has to be, because of the very scary consequences downstream. I have no hesitation that Russia and General Gerasimov will do what is necessary if and when they deem the time right – and the stakes are total as you say.
I have a terrible feeling for afterward – the real losers ya know, and their actions – the ones that Andrei Martyanov’s speaks about.
http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2021/04/they-neocons-may-have-anger-issues.html
We’re at that point Larchmonter, where we may turn into glass.
And yes, Pepe absolutely rocks!
You know, I just started to calm myself after I read Zelensky’s proclamation about preparing to invade Crimea. I truly wanted to get back to Holy Week given that today we mourn the memory of Christ’s crucifixion.
But no, those Ukrainian cretins have to start up some nonsense and puts me in a different frame of mind. I have three questions for you since I value your knowledge and expertise on tactical matters.
Q1. I have not read the Kremlin is proactively asking the UN Security Council to convene and call for Ukraine to retract its declaration to engage in military hostilities against the Russian Federation. Shouldn’t Russia do this first and denounce Ukraine’s intentions to invade another sovereign country that is a nuclear power?
Q2. Kaliningrad oblast has been shadowed lately by NATO dung flies harassing Russian Aerospace Forces. Do you believe NATO would coordinate a military attack with the Baltic States, Poland and the Ukraine Nazis and fight the Russians on two fronts (Crimea and Kaliningrad)?
Q3. This is a tough one. What will Russia do if the U.S. sails its warships into the Black Sea claiming to be an “observer” but becomes drawn into a combat scenario by a “fog-of-war” false flag?
Hi Larch
I had the thought recently that all this hardening of diplomatic language from both China and Russia in concert may indicate that they are actually preparing their own people for true military action. We often talk about the US doing this with its own population (which I personally somewhat doubt, actually) – but we’ve never had cause, until now, to think that this might be something the other countries could do.
We theorized in recent years that the US had a serious “slap” coming to it – and then Iran administered that slap back in January 2020.
After this, the next thing would seem to be an actual military defeat in some way, in some theater. Could be China in its sea, could be Russia in Syria or Ukraine. Those are just the most obvious candidates at the moment, but it could be anywhere.
But it has to be an actual military action that may perhaps even kill US soldiers – that old red line would finally get crossed. It would force a retreat and perhaps even force the US to sue for ceasefire.
I suspect both Russia and China have worked to harden their populations, and this wasn’t difficult as the US has given multiple provocations for natural patriotism to rise in both countries, and domestic media has shown the truly contemptible nature of the enemy in irrefutable clarity.
Alternately, I suppose the diplomats themselves could be getting carried along on this tide of patriotism, but either way both countries seem finally ready to hurt the US in an unmistakable way.
It may be that we are about to see the US get the defeat that we have theorized for some time. If this happens, it will be because Russia/China have calculated the outcome to many decimal places, and so my only prediction here would be that the US will take it.
Just as it took the slap from Iran, it will take this military defeat in public – raising hell in bluster, but not escalating in real terms.
We shall see.
Saker, brilliant sharing, deepest gratitude.
I was a child living in AK, before it was a State. Father was profoundly devastated when the “Global War On Terror” was begun. I found it very interesting a meeting was held there. Alaska was in essence a gift via Russia, and clearly is not appreciated. China, Russia, Et Al, do not choose to be the “evildoers'” vassals. No matter what the Grand Chessboard players attempt, to checkmate, the enlightened diplomats … game over resoundingly in heaven & earth. How to prepare for a potential nuclear winter? Is the rumor Galactic Federation worth investigating/signaling SOS?! Safe shelter/s, Food, H20, Off Grid?!! Thank You Again Saker, am to send you an important read, once I finish the copytyping.
Could that not be somehow a coordinated “action” between US and Ukraine in order that when Russia is attacked at Crimea, Border at Ukraine and Sevastopol the USA attacks at any other point, for example at the borders on the Pacific, maybe with some underwater equipment or something like this (I don’t understand military actions therefore my humble explanation). I think that USA maybe think if Russia is involved on the European side USA has a free ride on the Pacific side. And eventually even so in Middle East.
So. Brown is a communist. Charming.
Anyway, don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. I appreciate resisting the empire. But last part of this was a bit silly.
What a pleasure! I love to listen to Pepe—his knowledge is so broad and deep, and also based on human observations and exchanges. And that laugh! Alternating with very serious observations. It ‘s like Pepe has been around so many countries, so many different kinds of people, that his awareness of the human tragicomedy is the context of all of his observations.
Jeff is not a bad partner for him. Not as brilliant, but he tossed plenty of balls to Pepe that Pepe easily caught and ran with and dribbled and dropped a few baskets.
Katherine