Poroshenko’s inauguration speech has sent a message to Novorossiia and Russia:
- No federalization
- No state status for the Russian language
- No recognition of the Novorossian political leadership
- Full and unconditional surrender of the Novorossian Defense Forces
- Crimea will forever belong to the Ukraine.
He could not have been any clearer: that is basically a declaration of war and an ultimatum. This is also a full endorsement of the “Banderastan project”.
Clearly, the US has prevailed over the hoplessly spineless EU leaders like Merkel or Hollande and the AngloZionists will have their way.
I must leave my computer for the next 12 hours and I cannot write a full analysis of Poroshenko’s decision to fully follow the US line, but I will say that two things appear inevitable now: a Russian military intervention in Novorossia followed by the Cold War v2 the AngloZionists wanted so badly. Up until this moment the European colonies still had a chance to avoid a future which will hurt them much more than it will hurt the US or Russia, but they could not even muster the willpower to protect their own vital interests.
I am disgusted beyond words.
The Saker
SOS from Strelkov !!!!!
Slaviansk in dire straits today.
More:
https://crazyivanreport.wordpress.com/2014/06/07/strelkov-report-sos/
Those are just words from Poroshenko. No one would expect him declare that Crimea was no longer part of Ukraine. To this day Georgia has not conceded S. Ossetia and Abkhasia, but we all know that they will never be part of Georgia.
We should wait a see what Poro’s actions will be. Right now he has to put together a new government. If he wants to accomplish anything he will have to get rid of the Svoboda Party and Right Sector people. It is not clear how the neo-nazis will react to that development. One problem Poro has with calling an immediate cease fire is that all of the neo-nazi fighters in eastern Ukraine would return to Kiev. Now that could be a problem. If a peaceful and negotiated solution is his goal he has to worry about the reactions in western Ukraine as well as in the east.
Russia does not wish a hot war with the West. The Russians do not want a proxy war but that is thrust on them. To appease the fascist West and build a sttonger Russia by avoiding hot war by any means necessary entails geostrategic decisions that could see the death of thousands. The West insists this is the minimal death toll for they reckon profits in megadeaths.
As a Finn I very much understand hardline minority language policy. Over here the Swedish-speakers (5.5% of the population)
I am sorry. I thought u to be a swede. But I was wrong. I am sorry again. But, to remind u Do not try to raise ur fang. Do u wish another winter war and ur border re designated/squeezed? Be what you are. Do not jump US vassal else you might be having frostbite sooner as you are 100% gas dependent and/or obliterated. Kindly keep your cool and be an observer please> it does not concern you at this moment.
With regards..
Biswajit
“It is a dialect in the West.”
I think Ukrainian is actually classified as its own language. Over 80% of Ukrainians use it as their first language. Russian is a regional minority language in Ukraine. It should have official status as a regional minority language, not as a national language.
Best wishes
Anonymous in Finland
You are ill informed.
80% of Ukrainians speak Russian.
Even in the Halychina region educated people speak Russian.
The second most prevalent language is Surzhik, which is an intermediate dialect between Russian and literary Ukrainian in the East, South and Central Ukraine and an intermediate dialect between Polish and Ukrainian in the western regions.
Litterary Ukrainian, codified at the end of XIX century, is more prevalent among the young generation born after the collapse of USSR, however even these teenagers and young adults use Russian on a daly basis.
In fact, Russian is not a foreign language in Ukraine.
The only reason why it is not given an official status it is because if it was given such status it would completely dominate and probably even progressivly drive Ukrainian language to extinction.
Think of Gaelic in Ireland which is much less used than English, even if it is the Gaelic and not English which is supposed to be the national language of the Irish.
That would be the fate of Ukainian language if Russian was officially accepted as the second state language of Ukraine.
A couple of thoughts;
1. On the contrary to many commentators’ view, EU is fully supporting the effort to cripple Russia. Look at history, how many of them have tried on their own. They did unite with Russia to fight in WWII only because their own interest were in danger. Then, how about now?
. Putin and his Russia’s goal currently is to win the EU leaders will not work. They should know it. But they had to try it. They should know better that the best American weapon in Europe is EU while Japan in Asia. That’s all the current tension in Asia about.
2. Their another goal is to win European General public by restraining their act while showing their holding higher moral ground. Will it work? Through history, not many Europeans have been particularly fond of them. Shutting off gas certainly will make general European public suffer.
3. No matter how nice of a boy Russia is playing now will not change the plot to wipe them off if such plot exists. It can probably help them amass some but limited support ( at this point, non-hostility is support for them.). Czech and Slovakia’s stance attest to it.
4. I doubt US and EU are willing to clash with Russia directly. Instead, an agent war is most likely.
5. Russian intervention in E. Ukr. or not, either way bears its risk for them.
I agree. At last, its time to admit, Russian intervention will have to be. I suggest it would be wise for Russia to not stop at Novorosia but take back about 85% of Ukraine including Kiev. leave the western-most regions as a rump state, driving its rabid Russophobe pro US populations into it…like a garbage can.
New neocon bill: designed to protect Ukraine or to promote business interests of US fracking firms?
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_06_05/New-neocon-bill-designed-to-protect-Ukraine-or-to-promote-business-interests-of-US-fracking-firms-6121/
New neocon bill: designed to protect Ukraine or to promote business interests of US fracking firms?
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_06_05/New-neocon-bill-designed-to-protect-Ukraine-or-to-promote-business-interests-of-US-fracking-firms-6121/
@Anonymous in Finland
Ukrainian, unlike Russian is lacking vocabulary for technical topics (many Russian tech words are actually ‘borrowed’ from English and other languages.) It used to be that one could purchace for very cheap Ukrainian military maps as they were actively de-Russifying everything they could.
T1
Biswajit
You might need to cool down a bit. I was just reporting on minority language policy over here in Finland and entertaining the possibility that Ukrainians would be a bit smarter than us. That’s not really too much to ask is it?
Where do you come from Biswajit?
I’m glad I’m not the only one seeing that the Imperial behavior follows the pattern established by wars against the Serbs (1991-present); after 15 years of watching for it, it becomes an occupational hazard to see it everywhere (even if it may not be so).
Here’s a thought I haven’t seen anyone mention, though. Could the junta be dumb enough to actually try and assault Crimea? Because that would then be a proper casus belli, it being sovereign Russian territory. And no amount of propaganda in the world could spin it otherwise.
Though they will never admit it, Americans believe they have a God-given right to rule the world.
Like the Zionists who believe Jews are God’s Chosen People, Americanists think that the United States is God’s Chosen Empire.
Thus, Americans dutifully spew patriotic propaganda that they are the “Beacon of Liberty” and “Land of the Free,” which are really just legitimizing deceptions for America’s global yoke.
THIS warped American Mentality is the underlying problem, and why the American Empire is a preeminent threat to peace.
Key to America’s world dominance ambitions is to neutralize all nations that are obstacles to America’s unipolar rule of the planet.
This includes not only Russia but China as well. Hence, you see America’s “Pivot to Asia” which in fact is an anti-China policy based upon playing Asian nations against China–analogous to how America is playing its Eastern European satraps against Russia.
Similar examples of America’s Machiavellian geopolitical ambitions are found in the Middle East where the USA is desperate to weaken or destory Iran and Syria (and Hisbollah) by playing the Sunni states against these Shiites nations.
The United Snakes of America wants to Americanize the world OR ELSE.
As a result, America is driving the world towards World War 3 and a possible nuclear Armageddon.
Off-topc:
Carnival in Rio de Janeiro have much green confetti.
U.S. $ will be chopped into pellets.
In China dragons are green, it’s cheaper than that red cellophane;
India burn as insenço;
Russia will serve to ignite and fire,
In South Africa, to wipe your ass.
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
( by Proftel)
Given that there is a lot of ignorance (and stupidity; I have translated the very emotional
article by Juan into French, and added extra info and vids from Les Crises.
Work in progress so any useful comments welcomed (on the Dahu blog)
http://lepontduhadu.blogspot.fr/2014/06/pour-plus-dinfos-en-francais-sur-la.html
Yours aye
Le Dahu
crazyiivanreport @17:28
The junta death squads are attacking Artemivsk, the town next to the salt mine containing the enormous cache of weapons.
Roshen chocolates come in well designed colourful boxes, the plastic in-tray having plenty of spaces to access the chocolates, which for some unfathomable reason makes the box bigger.
The chocolates themselves typically have less cocoa solids than the opposition, and appear cheaper for the same weight.
There is a current case against Roshen in Russia.
I always prefered Krasni Oktabyr or the bar with the ballerina.
Yes Krasnyi Oktiabr’ is way better than Roshen.
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/Digital-Library/Articles/Detail/?lng=en&id=18035 This is an interesting article on economic warfare from a Pro European-US think tank. I don’t think the leaders in Europe want to allow the horseman of war from the U.S. its heedless rush. When the pedal hits the metal this mindset becomes irrelevant, however. They want to stay fat and rich and cozy and safe. Fools, all!
I agree with those who say Russia should not stop their intervention at the Donbass, why not go all the way to Odessa? There is a silent anger outside Donetsk and Lugansk where local cities have been swamped by Right Sector “defence” units. Thus, it is difficult for them to truly speak out without the fears of some form of punishment. In the case of Odessa, the lack of investigation into the events of May 2 has meant many locals are now resorting to vigilante tactics to gain some justice for their victims.
http://rt.com/news/164076-ukraine-poll-east-west/
Judging by the above results of the Pew poll, my assumption that Ukrainians had now been united due to the Crimean Crisis was unfounded. 45% of respondents of the east and south recognise these results while 25% in these regions don’t. What does this say? Well, the Crimean annexation was the most extreme example of the outright rejection of Ukraine as a country. To think 45% in the south+east agree with this is a good reflection of their hopes (perhaps the wanting of a green men style takeover). I almost forgot, the Pew poll is American… so if the doublespeak Washington poll says almost a half in south+east Ukraine support Crimea’s reunfification, imagine how high the true number is!
Now, take a look at this turnout map for Ukraine’s 2014 election…
http://blogs.ft.com/ftdata/2014/05/25/ukrainian-presidential-election-live-results-and-regional-breakdown/
Odessa and Kharkov had turnouts of about 47& and 49% respectively. If this is the case, then these regions clearly see no hope in beautiful Ukraine for much longer.
Mr Finn,
While I well understand the potential negative issues of designating additional official languages, in this case they don’t apply. Ukrainian is an invented language based on the dialect spoken in rural western Ukraine. Nothing wrong with that, but Russian is understood by >95% of the population so it is not really a ‘minority’ language. Until Ukrainian began to be taught in schools following independence it was not widely spoken. When it was introduced in 1991 it did not have sufficient vocabulary to function in business, academic, or governmental applications so there has been a wealth of new vocabulary added to enable this. It’s designation as the only official language of Ukraine is a cheap and divisive political act that has very little practical utility and is all about promoting the nationalist agenda of a small but powerful minority and it should be viewed for what it is.
the pessimist
I agree with almost everything you write, but I need one important correction: Ukrainian was already taught in the schools in the Soviet times. In fact, communists imposed it as a second official language even in the Rusdian regions that they added to Ukraine. The regions that have been conquered and populated by Russian settlers since the XVII century: Crimea and Novorossia. Another peculiar topic would be the one discussing the Ruthenian language (Rusinsky) which was widely spoken in Halychina, Volyn and Podolie before their active Ukrainization. Strangely enough, Ruthenian is closer to Russian than Ukrainian which has. much more added polonisms. This is mainly due to the fact that Ruthenian and Rusdian both descend from the language of the Kievan Rus, while Ukrainian was heavily altered by Polish and Turkish/Tatar add-ons.
The topic of Ukrainian language and identity is a fascinating one…
Bombing of Libya was start of world war III, the talk has been there for a while, only know I started to understand it. By letting west bombing Libya, the war now has brought to Russia and China’s door step. The $400 B gas deal now looks more and more than that every day, a strategic alliance as Saker stated before.
There is no where to hide any more but push back. It will be too late when war reaches Moscow. Do not allow this to grew any more than you have. Their goal is to create chaos in Russia. If that were to happen, look at Chinese 100 year experience after opium war as your template. Wars, war lords, and extreme poverty and suffering. Whatever cost for actions you take now will be dwarfed by what could happen in a few years down the road.
Strelkov on “Cossacks” (Saker might like this):
Игорь Стрелков о казаках (Igor Strelkov of the Cossacks)
http://rusvesna.su/news/1402166360 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/news/1402166360
“”Cossacks: in our militia is Cossacks and quite a lot of them. But! There is no “pure Cossack” or units. Because as soon as something is formed in conditions of irregular war, more recently, disciplined and efficient soldiers instantly turn into a group of robbers and cowards.
What is the reason? Yes with the psychology of a “exclusivity”: “kazakouski” warrior no reason, no reason begins to consider himself “something higher than all the other”. And since it is “above”, and “valuable” and requires “special approach”. That is to dig trenches he can’t – he ‘ Cossack warrior”. The trenches must dig someone else. and if not, then under fire/attack it (“Cossack warrior”) must first “to protect ourselves for the future”, and position you can throw – not too bad.
But if we throw something that dwell on the details? And it turns out that red Estuary easy reach of Anthracite.
The cure for “Cossack disease” only one thing: to ask the Cossacks exactly the same as all, despite the ambition stripes and statements “and I Kazak! I fought!“ And to be able to take “the nail” those who do not want to perceive realities.
The only problem is that when “the Cossacks” going too much, they become aggressive and uncontrollable. And turn into a gang “batko angel.”
Poroshenko is the best friend Novorossiia could have. “No talks” means its continued existence, and even strengthening.
Ukraine cannot possibly win this conflict.
It simply has no money to keep this campaign going for more than 3 months.
Every time a man who must compromize, takes an uncompromizing position, he loses.
Unfortunately, pro-Rusdian militants are outnumbered and outgunned, and if Russia does not help them with weapons and manpower then they will lose.
It’s time for Putin to travel to Tehran and deliver a modest, unassuming speech that will shake the world.
In it he should say that Russia will never participate in any sanctions not approved by the UN, that Russia views Iran as a strategic partner and an ally, and that Iran is welcome to become a member of any Eurasian grouping, be that EAEU or ODKB, at any time it chooses.
Then he should take a week-long break from answering non-stop calls from Washington, and let Russian guns do all the talking, in Novorossiia.
The zionazi bum bandits continue to target the independent leadership:
В центре Донецка убит Максим Петрухин — помощник председателя Верховного совета ДНР Дениса Пушилина (In the centre of Donetsk killed Maxim Petrukhin – assistant to the Chairman of the Supreme Council DND Denis Putilina)
http://rusvesna.su/tmp/719208304 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/tmp/719208304
“Unknown fired at the car of the Chairman of the Parliament of the Donetsk national Republic Denis Pushilin. His assistant who was in the car, died, reports the press service of DND. The chair of the Supreme Soviet at that time was located in the administrative building.
The incident happened in the center of Donetsk. According to witnesses the assassination, the car was shot at from automatic weapons. The attackers fired at the car in about 15 shots, and then disappeared from the scene.
Lost Maxim Petrukhin was a Deputy of the Parliament of the self-proclaimed Republic. He was engaged in the organization of humanitarian aid to the population of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.
Recall that Denis Pushilin after the proclamation of April 7, Donetsk national Republic became one of its leaders. on may 15 at the session of people’s Council of the Republic, he was elected speaker of the Supreme Council of the Parliament of the self-proclaimed DND. Pushilin is involved in the sanctions list of the European Union. He banned entry to the EU and its assets, if such are detected in European banks, subject to freezing.”
Dear Saker,
There may not be glory in war, but I think there won´t be a lot of glory for Novorossia living under opression either. The truth is that the ukrainian-nationalist and anglo-saxon atrategical radicalization has created a lose-lose situation. I hope Russia defends the Donbas, and in the most moderate and bloodless way possible. Even thought one must recognize that such an option has grievous consequences also.
Warm greetings from Rio, Brasil.
Pete,
“The Americans are willing to fight to the last Ukrainian.”
Says it all, doesn’t it. Any which way you look at it.
I do think Poroshenko ultimatedly stepped in it though. Look ahead: his chances of success are approximately nil, for whatever definition of success you may choose. Right now he’s following the Empire’s party line: So. Did. Saddam. Hussein. He was a useful tool when we set him in office and then later, fighting Iran, remember? Then he outlived his original purpose, we got a whole new set of goals, and he became useful once more, as a demon to destroy. Once a leader sells his soul to us, *he* may think he’s sitting pretty but, ahem, it’s always a Faustian deal. So he’ll be useful to us in this role until either someone else is more useful, or we’ll demonize and destroy him also, whichever is more convenient.
On the other hand, what do you think would happen if he decided (ha ha) to negociate re: Novorossiya — on anying? Who would kill him first, us or Pravy Sektor?
I.e., in the end he’ll get what he’s got coming: one way or another, justice will be served in his case. Not so the utterly innocent citizens of Novorossiya.
Anonymous 14:07
Manson is not out on parole. It was a hoax. The timing was interesting though.
elsi,
“Definitely this man has no respect for anything or anyone.
Making “selfies” at the Nelson Mandela´s funeral, his Nuland sending EU to the hell by telephone, chewing gum in D-Day celebrations…What more?”
Please don’t tempt the fates! Quite frankly, his “red line” throwaway comment about Syria was shocking.
He. Just. Doesn’t. Care.
Predictable. Poroshenko is just reading from the script he has been handed.
So many of you don’t get it yet. The US wants a showdown with Russia. It believes it’s own PR hype about oil/gas fracking and it’s anti-missile defence systems.
It believes that the biggest oil and gas producers in the world can be cut off from world markets with no impact (at least to itself).
It believes it can win a nuclear war.
So it is not going to back down, this is it…
NATO troops will be in the Ukraine (for an ‘exercise’) in July and I’ll bet they will never leave.
And it wont be long until those same troops will be used against the eastern Ukrainians (through some pretext, false flag, whatever).
Hold onto your hats folks it is going to be a wild ride…..but on the plus side all the dust and smoke in the air after a nuclear exchange will cool the earth down…
@Anonymous in Finland
Your country is an appendix to Sweden, always was and always will be. If not for Sweden you’d be a province of Russia and your beloved laguage would not be spoken at all in any official capacity. Thank your lucky stars your parent country is as benevolent as it is, and keep up your swedish language skills since you may come to need them one day.
Anonymous in Sweden
What a surprise!
I always thought exactly the opposite about Finland: it was always an appendix of Russia.
If it was not for Russia, Finland would be just a Swedish province and their beloved language wouldn’t be spoken at all in any official capacity.
Finns should thank their lucky star that Russians are so benevolent that they forgave the role Finnish troops played during the WW2 in the Leningrad region and Karelia.
Finns should practice their Russian language skills, since they might come to need them one day.
Just jocking…
:-)
Well, Russians and Swedes are both crying us rivers because neither was able to hold on to us.
We just don’t need those rivers for anything.
Best wishes
Anonymous in Finland
I don’t know and I can’t tell about Swedes, but Russians certainly ain’t crying rivers over Finland.
The attitude towards Finns is uniformely friendly, they are seen as a successful and reliable neighbouring country.
The majority of young Russians probably don’t even know that Finland was part of Russian Empire or that the major part of Kalevala was first recorded in Karelia from an Orthodox Karelian peculiarly named Arhip Ivanovich Pertunnen and that the first university in Helsinki was named the Alexander Imperial University.
I care about such things because a part of my family is from Saint-Petersburg, because I have made camping on the shores of Ladoga and Onega (did you ever hear about Besov Nos?), have read the Kalevala as a kid and have visited and enjoyed the exhibition of Finno-Ugric artefacts in the Hermitage museum.
Moreover, I know that the town of Old Ladoga is among the oldest Russian towns and that already 1500 years ago the Varangians, the Slavs and the Finns co-existed in these regions.
Besides, there are nearly 30% of Y haplotype N people in Russia, which makes Russia the biggest Finno-Ugric country in the world.
Bottom line is: Finns are considered in Russia as a friendly nation who lived side by side with Slavs for centuries, for the most part peacefully, and have contributed a lot to the build up of Russian nation.
I would even say that for Russians, Finns are foreigners, but they are not aliens.
:-)
@ Nora,
Q: It’s pretty obvious what lies ahead for Ukraine — but what about us? What the hell do we do about this?
R: One doesn’t fight a tumor with band aids. You unseeth your Bowie knife and cut and rip the damned thing out. The DC cesspool has to be drained and cleared of anything that corrupts it… Ahhhhh, yah, money… $$$…
The only solution [imo] wold be to go back to small communities, so I know my money will help to see Grams around the corner get through the winter and check in on her to make sure she doesn’t need anything.
The old adage is ‘divide and rule.’ Look around you, does it still work or not?
I know you would help me out and you know I would help you out… why can’t we enlarge this mutual knowledge so all can live in peace?
I’ll, and this makes a lot of people uncomfortable.
The US totally owns the UK/EU national security (intelligence, counter intelligence, etc) organisations, the military and the top politicians.
They also own a fair proportion of the economic elites.
In all cases their first allegiance is to the US, not their own countries.
So they will totally sell out and make decisions that are totally at odds with their own national security and economic needs.
So don’t be surprised when the EU sanctions Russia and cuts off gas supplies. If you live there, buy warm clothing now… it’s going to be a cold winter…well that is until it gets very, very, very hot.
US Impose Sanctions on Contractor for South Stream Project in Bulgaria
http://www.bta.bg/en/c/ES/id/845516
Never ending bullying.
Saker
Well at least after Poroshenk’s “inauguration”(/installation?), there is one thing that the Kremlin can do in the really short term. They can issue an ultimatum to Poroshenko to stop the use of heavy weaponry in Novorussia.
If he does not they should then freeze all his assets in Russia and announce that they will liquidate any necessary in order to provide for the Novorussian refugees displaced by his (they are now) war crimes, and for Novorussian reconstruction.
As you’ve mentioned before, they should publish the names of all Ukie military officers involved in the actions, and state that they will bring war crimes charges against them. If Russia subsequently captures any of them they should make good on their promise and ask China to conduct the trials, since it would be pointless handing them over to the Hague, the Dutch Government would release them straight away under orders from the Fourth Reich.
If the EU imposes sanctions for Russian actions, Russia should take them to the WTO court, and then cut off the gas supply. I’m sure China would be happy to have some of it, they’ve already intimated that they want more than the initial deal.
If body language is anything to go by, what does one make of the Merkel/Putin angle?’
Any thoughts?
Another development worth noticing is Russia’s re-engagement with North Korea. Couple days ago two countries agreed to conduct mutual trade in roubles.
I believe, Russians will ask North Koreans to supply them with spare parts and components for their military products, the ones that are at constant risk of disruption due to their Ukrainian origins.
North Koreans, who produce vast array of armaments, are more than capable of replicating any item that Russians will want them to, and will ensure supplies at better price and, possibly, better quality.
Win-win for Russia and NK, giant loss for Ukraine.
Interesting interview with Pavel Gubarev.
Многие спорят о том, надо ли делить бывшую Украину или можно оставить, уничтожив бандеро-фашизм? (Many argue about whether it is necessary to divide the former Ukraine or you can leave, destroying bandero-fascism?)
http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1402141589 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1402141589
“Organize a series of questions and I will periodically to respond to the most urgent and widespread.
I want to state the following:
1. I’m not part of the government and are not official in DND.
2. We, people’s militia of Donbass, recruit and send militias in the hero-city of Slavyansk. And collect and deliver assistance there.
3. We, the cap “Party new Russia”, create and bear to the masses the idea of creating an independent Federal state of Novorossia, democracy and social justice.
Many argue about whether it is necessary to divide the former Ukraine or you can leave, destroying bandero-fascism?
My answer is that Ukraine should be divided into Federal Novorossia and the Federal Ukraine. Because most of the residents of the West and centre of the former Ukrainian wish the European future, and South and East – see their future with Russia. And this split is based and civilizational, cultural, ethnic, and eventually economic components. In his same basis of today’s event in Donbas is the clash of the civilizations of the West and Russian civilization. So the only logically consistent form of existence of the population of the former Ukraine is its division into at least two parts: the new Russia and Ukraine.
Question: Mr. Pavel, could you clarify once and for all the question on your connection (or lack thereof) with the RNU. The thing is that too many people fear that you are a supporter of such national-radicals that and PS, but Russian orientation. Thank you.
Answer: I really in his youth was in motion Russian National Unity (A. Barkashov). But that was 12 years ago and I was young and hot. Thank this organization for the military training in the army of Ukraine such do not give. Call themselves Russian nationalist, but with the caveat that a real Russian nationalism is not ethnic, but a spiritual, human. The my views on this day it is better to call national patriotism with left-centrist bias. Ukrainians and Russians are one people, just some Ukrainians forgot about it. The national-radical I am not.
Question: Shooters complains that little replenishment gets it. Tell me approximately how many people you may have sent over the last couple of weeks? At least approximately? Thank you
Answer: With sending militias last week had problems with what to tell yet… Now was adjusted share – today has sent 23 people and humanitarian aid. Tomorrow will ship to 50 people.”
Let’s talk about populations.
Governments have given the inherent rapid response media as hosts.
Populations are not accommodated until they feel the flesh.
Hence, the response can be rapid as in Switzerland or Israel or slow as in Latin America or Africa.
Rest assured, the response of the population comes.
Tarda but not failure.
And it is most often violent.
When it occurs, gentlemen and ladies, no Government to resist.
Maybe that’s why several institutions in the U.S. are buying insane amounts of ordnance, they know that shit is near the fan blades.
He is turning and people are in a pressure cooker without a safety valve.
As the Saker alert frequently, Ukraine’s population is apathetic, Putin will not stick your hand in a hornet’s nest who does not flinch, does not defend himself.
Does not distribute so as lethal weapons do not give pearls to pigs.
Only NATO does.
Sensible people do not.
Populations can accommodate as happened in Latin America in Coups in Chile, Brazil, Argentina and others, that time had dispersed population, there was no internet and all insertion there today.
Populations can be accommodated by historical factors such as in South Africa, but as we see, things can change.
In the 70s where he spent his summer vacation at my uncle (Austrian, my mother’s brother) at the shipyard.
In a conversation about religion, he said thus: – Look nephew, every season has its God and builds temples, was formerly the church with ornate temples, today’s “God” are banks; note well the size of the parent banks.
Each population deserves what does.
If the U.S. has over 180 bases distributed around the world (which is in fact the military power of their money), their population is not innocent.
I have a dream that still may be able to see in this life:
U.S. troops coming home swimming or hitchhiking.
It would be really cool to see this on TV!
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
(by Proftel)
@Anonymous in Finland:
You are full of shit.
83% of Ukrainians prefer Russian over Ukrainian.
Not having Russian be a second official language is just another expression of Ukrainian fascism.
So what are you implying, that Ukrainian is some kind of incomplete language of the bush people?
Or perhaps the bush people don’t realize that their own language actually has its own vocabulary?
Whatever the intention here, the language maps show that Ukrainian is used extensively in the west and most of Ukraine is tje West.
Now I’m getting really scared: just watched a snippet about Ukraine on Fox News today 6-7-14 around 1:45 pm California time, and the “expert” interviewed about the situation said things like: “The Russians attacked …” “Let’s see if Putin will accept a cease-fire …” “Putin is a thug.” So am I dreaming or what? The rhetoric is like we are *already* at war with Russia. It’s a done deal.
I am so upset and incensed and very, very sad. And scared.
I’m praying, please let it be not so. Please deliver us from this folly.
Mr. Saker, Bears repeating. Calm your heart.
Thank you for your insights. Your blog’s focus is on the military aspect of the nearing all-out Civil War in the Ukraine. However, the larger war is economic. Some will posit economic collapse is followed by war replete with atrocities.
In my post up-thread I stated the Ukraine is where the US$ went to die. As it unfolds, international trade priced in US$ is no longer a given. “It is long term with grave implications for the US economy.”
Keep an eye on the money because the winner is already declared. In unison, it’s China and Russia.
Over at Zerohedge today: 90% of Gazprom Clients Have De-Dollarized, Will Transact in Euro & Renminbi
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-07/90-gazprom-clients-have-de-dollarized-will-transact-euro-renminbi
Following Obama and Putin’s “caught on tape” meeting Vine’d by the French President, we can’t help but wonder if the Russian leaders comments were something akin to “this is not over yet.” With “De-Dollarization” efforts already broadly under discussion, ITAR-TASS reports that Gazprom had signed additional agreements for clients to switch from dollars to euros and renminbi, “nine of ten consumer had agreed to switch.”
[.]
As we concluded previously,
And as we have explained repeatedly in the past, the further the west antagonizes Russia, and the more economic sanctions it lobs at it, the more Russia will be forced away from a USD-denominated trading system and into one which faces China and India.”
And, more critical it is on the home turf
FT.com Renminbi use surges in home of US dollar –fast displacing greenback in US home market sign-in required
http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2014/06/04/renminbi-fast-displacing-greenback-in-us-home-market/?Authorised=false
“It is the monetary equivalent of what Chairman Mao called “bombarding the headquarters”. China’s renminbi is rapidly displacing the US dollar as a trading currency not only in Asia and Europe but now also in the US home market.
The value of renminbi payments between the US and the rest of the world rose by 327 per cent in April this year from the same month a year ago (see chart) as more US corporations switched to using the Chinese currency to pay for imports from China, according to data from SWIFT, the international currency settlement firm.
The reasons driving the upsurge are structural and long-term, said Debra Lodge, a managing director at HSBC in New York.
First, US importers can slash the cost of imports from China by agreeing to trade in renminbi rather than US dollars, Lodge said. Second, a recent surge in the popularity of a host of renminbi-denominated financial market instruments are making it easier for US corporates both to hedge currency risk and to earn an investment return from the renminbi they hold.
(H/T JSmineset.com)
Be patient.
Anon Mongoose
Anonymous in Finland:
The Swedish speaking minority n Finland is 5,4 % of the population, but the Swedish language is the second official language of Finland.Not regional, national.
Why not the language of 18% of the population cannot have the same national status in Ukraine?
Z
Because having a regional language (Swedish) as a national language is idiocy in the first place.
It’s the same with Russian in Ukraine.
Saker,
I disagree about the West wanting the new Cold War. I just don’t see how it could be possible.
The West would love to backpedal on Ukraine, but it simply cannot do so without admitting defeat and losing face. So, it’s stuck.
The new Cold War is the war that the West cannot possibly win. It didn’t even win the first edition. The Soviets have destroyed their own country by their own stupidity and naivety. The West couldn’t believe its own luck until Soviets were done ruining themselves.
Putin holds all the aces here. He just needs to aquire a bit more menacing posture, and start applying a real economic pressure – and a stench of soiled adult diapers emanating from Brussels will reach all the way to Moscow.
Ukraine is a geopolitical disaster for the West. By messing with China and Russia simultaneously, it already lost Mongolia and Central Asia – a monumental setback in resourse-scarce world.
If Russia and China can fasten Iran to their fledgling alliance, then Ukraine will become the West’s diplomatic Waterloo, and a textbook example of hubris and failure.
Banner for latest new from Ukraine on Rt is gone
Anon in Finland:
I think Ukrainian is actually classified as its own language. Over 80% of Ukrainians use it as their first language. Russian is a regional minority language in Ukraine. It should have official status as a regional minority language, not as a national language.
These are the languages spoken at home in Ukraine and Crimea:
Russian – 47.5%
Surzhyk – 11.8% (Surzhyk is a Russian/Ukrainian mix)
Ukrainian – 40.7%
But half the Ukrainian speakers are in Galacia and Volyn, and almost no Russian speakers. So if you look at the rest of Ukraine and Crimea outside the west, you see the following:
Russian – 58.9%
Surzhyk – 14.1%
Ukrainian – 27.0%
In Novorossiya its:
Russian – 84.6%
Surzhyk – 10.9%
Ukrainian – 4.4%
Just because people say something is their native language or mother tongue doesn’t mean its what they use in day to day life. Ukrainians like to think of themselves as such even if they don’t actually use the language.
As far as it being a language, its a language in West Ukraine, where it is essentially a very heavily Polonized form of Russian. As you move east, the Polish loanwords and grammatical structure drops off and Russian loanwords and grammtical structure pick up, creating Surzhyk. And in any case as you move east, most people simply use Russian. More telling is that most mass media and culture in Ukraine is in Russian, and when you go into stores in most of Ukraine to shop, people greet you in Russian.
What is far more interesting is that up until around 100 years ago, people all over Ukraine said they spoke Rusyn and called themselves Russkij. People in Russia said they spoke Rossian and called themselves Rosskij. This is like people in Germany saying they are and speak Deutsch and people in Netherlands saying they are and speak Deitsch. They are one people divided by a border. In reality, there is a very high degree of mutual intelligibility across all East Slavic languages, and the differences primarily come from outside influences like Polish, Romanian, and Tatar.
Interesting information
Thanks and best wishes
Anonymous in Finland
“Banner for latest new from Ukraine on Rt is gone”
The page is still there, just no banner. Bookmark this.
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
Anonymous in Finland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As a Finn I very much understand hardline minority language policy.Over here the Swedish-speakers (5.5% of the population) have managed to lobby for Swedish to be a compulsory language in schools and universities. Reflect on the latter especially – how appropriate is it for a nuclear physicist to waste their time learning a language? In case you still don’t get it, imagine a situation where welsh were compulsory for all university students in the UK. And not only university students – all public servants too. That’s what we have in Finland and that’s what they should want to avoid in the Ukraine.
The irony here is that the minority language in UKR is Ukrainian. Though they don’t want to admit it, for political or sentimental reasons, most Ukrainians prefer Russian. And those who do speak Ukrainian do not speak it properly. My friend from Volin, who is very pro-EU and very anti-Russian, admits that hardly anybody speaks proper Ukrainian. Having to learn the Ukrainian language is the imposition, not learning the Russian.
Beginning to sound like Ukrainian is some kind of incomplete language of the Eastern European Bushman isn’t it?
Well, complete the job of formalisation of grammar and vocabulary then so that people are able to use it so that they won’t have to resort to a language that does have formal grammar and vocabulary.
And then just butt out.
Comparing Ukrainian language to Bushman language is quite insulting.
For the Bushman language of course.
The language of the San and Khoisan tribes is probably the oldest in the world and has a lot of very intetesting features.
Ukrainian language on the other hand, is simply a kind of Russo-Polish creole with a lot of Turkish and some Hungarian and Romanian (Vlakh) admixture.
If it was not for the Bolshevik policies, it would’ve never become a state language anywhere, not even in Kalahari…
;-)
And now I’m wondering about an option no one seems to consider: what if the separatists actually laid their arms down?
Isn’t that what the Anglo/Zionists would fear the most?
вот так :
Você falou sobre cossacos… .
Temos alguns do tipo aqui no Brasil, no Rio Grande do Sul (Estado – fica na divisa com Uruguai e Argentina).
Ouça uma música:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fM8cmynfxM
:-)
(by Proftel)
Putin seeming to want to cooperate with Porkoshenko in Normandy was a skillful chess move I think. This must have infuriated both Obomba and his Bots on the one hand and the Kiev neo-Nazis on the other. Porkoshenko “might should” ( as they say in some parts of the US south) watch his back. He may really want to negotiate with Russia (for several reasons, including continuing to sell his chocolate in Russia), but the CIA and the neo-Nazi freaks in Kiev may off the pudgy chocolate bunny if he does (ding dong, another wicked witch is dead, and I would not mourn). So, I don’t think he had a choice about the content of his inauguration speech. He may or may not be able or willing to deviate from the moves dictated by his US and Kiev puppet masters.
Inna Kukurudza, presente.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flq0W4UzR00
3 days ago – Uploaded by Fedor Slava
Le 2 juin 2014, une frappe aérienne de l’armé Ukrainienne sur la ville de Lugansk a fait 8 morts …
IMPORTANT – Igor Strelkov (Girkin) gave a new interview to Lifenews. Strelkov, as you may know, is Donbass Commander In Chief and Commander of Slavyansk garrison, a key figure in the uprising.
The interview is in Russian, you can find it here:
http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1849598.html
I have taken the liberty to prepare an English-language transcript of Strelkov’s interview. You can find it here:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s226ia
Strelkov’s interview is critical to understanding the potential impact of a continuing slow-burning civil war conflict in Donbass. He summed it best himself: “Humanitarian Catastrophe of a Regional, if Not World Dimension.”
I hope it is of use to you. As I have recommended to my audience, the interview should be made public and introduced to mass media, as possible.
We are in the process of preparing English subtitles for the youtube video. I will post once ready.
Kind thanks and regards,
Gleb Bazov (Canada)
Twitter: @gbazov
Email: gbazov@gmail.com
Daniel Rich,
I absolutely agree.
But how? Our state governments are bigger cesspools than D.C. — every bit as corrupt and maybe even stupider.
It’s always easy to see solutions, or at least optimal ways of doing things. But the problem is always getting there from here. This whole country needs to be roto-rooted, at the very least, but We The People are too busy fighting amongst ourselves (really, just endlessly putting each other down, and sometimes with good reason, but still…) to even get around to finding the totally new kinds of leaders who, you know, Won’t. Sell. Us. Out. and Will. Vote. For. Genuine. Things. That. Genuinely. Can. Solve. Our. Structural. Problems.
I don’t see much chance of that happening soon enough to matter — and Lordy, do I hope I’m wrong!
America is the Fourth Reich,
But Americans *do* believe we have not just a God-given right, but a divinely imposed obligation to “help” the rest of you become as elevated, if not as exceptional, as we are. (choke). It’s just an unthinking (hey, we’re Americans) that has been carefully-cultivated by our oligarchical leaders since the first colonists set foot on these shores. City on the Hill, we were — Beacon of Democracy, Leader of the Free World, World’s Greatest Hegemon. Ad nauseum. But it’s not the attitude, shared as it is by most Americans most everywhere, that is the problem — it’s the fact that these exceptional beings are so incurious and uncaring and busy leading their own lives that it’s nigh unto impossible to get them to think about *anything*, much less begin to recognize that their unchallenged and outrageously erroneous assumptions are leading directly to the misery and deaths of millions and may end up making the entire planet glow in the dark.
BREAKING DEFENSE NEWSLETTER
A Finnish strategist looks at Russia’s Information War
By Sydney J. Freedberg Jr. on June 06, 2014
An Invisible Red Army
Putin has one asset that Stalin didn’t: cyberspace. “Russia is much more powerful and more skillful in the cyber arena than we know here in the western world,” said Jarno Limnell, a former Finnish military officer who’s now director of cybersecurity for Intel Security (formerly the independent firm McAfee). While their campaign against Ukraine has kept a lower profile than the so-called “cyber war” against Estonia in 2007, they’ve been “much more active” that most people realize, Limnell told me over coffee during a recent visit to Washington.
Consider the “Snake” spyware program found a few months ago in Ukrainian government systems. According to a BAE study, Snake, aka “Turla,” has hit Ukraine more than any other country, with attacks increasing 14-fold since 2010. (Incidentally, the second most-targeted country is Lithuania, Estonia’s other Baltic neighbor). No one can prove Snake comes from Russia, but the match-up between the malware’s target list and the Kremlin’s is awfully suggestive — as is the fact that no Russian system has ever reported being compromised by Snake.
“It’s been called the most sophisticated spying malware that’s ever created,” Limnell said. But if we started getting reports on Snake in 2010, then, allowing for development time before that, “it’s five to six years old,” he said: Russia’s current cutting-edge software must be much more sophisticated — and we probably haven’t seen it yet.
Limnell’s best guess — “This is estimation and speculation, I have to emphasize that,” he said — is that Russian malware is “sleeping” in all sorts of Ukrainian critical infrastructure, ready to wake up on command and wreak havoc with the electrical grid, financial system, and so on. “I believe preparations for these kinds of strategic cyber attacks are being made,” he told me. But the Russians have held back because they don’t want to escalate the conflict in such a blatant, uncontrollable, and precedent-setting way. They’ve savvy strategists as well as skilled technologists, Limnell said, and know full well “it would open Pandora’s box.”
So instead of resorting to scorched-cyberspace tactics, Russia is using the Internet in subtler ways.
“First of all, the Russians — or perhaps it’s best to say some ‘patriotic hacker’ groups — are launching DDOS [distributed denial of service] attacks [and] some cyber espionage,” Limnell said. “Those activities I would call business as usual,” he added: They’re the kind of things Russian hackers with unclear links to the Kremlin do all the time, it’s just that Ukraine’s now experiencing them at a much higher rate.
Second and more important is the “information war,” a central tenet of modern Russian military doctrine. “When we think about cyber in the western countries, we usually think about DDOS attacks or cyber attacks on our critical infrastructure,” Limnell told me. “Cybersecurity is too often treated only as a technological problem…. but from the Russian point of view cyber is primarily the information sphere” — what the Soviets would have called propaganda.
Crossvader said…
“I disagree about the West wanting the new Cold War. I just don’t see how it could be possible.”
They don’t want a new cold war, they want a hot one.
Ideally, for them, a period of crippling economic sanctions on Russia first to weaken it (as per Iraq, etc). A nasty regional war first, again to weaken them would also be good.
But make no mistake, they are going to go all the way in the end.
But the longer it takes them to get to that state, the more time the internal opposition in their own countries (mostly UK,US and Germany) will have time to change direction. Plus Russia and China have time to get their counter game into action.
The danger is that it all happens much faster than think (ah lah a 1914), because they are overconfident idiots (yes they really do believe they have nuclear primacy and can stare down Russia) and they stumble into a full conflict much faster.
One scenario is NATO troops slaughtering eastern Ukrainians or even attacking Crimea in July/August, at that point Russia will move in and frankly wipe out any NATO forces there so fast it is not funny. Then NATO launches its tactical nukes… then it is all over.
Some variant of that scenario could quite easily happen this year, even within a few months.
This is shaping up to be the most dangerous time for the human race since 1983 or 1962.
I have not seen in Portuguese or Spanish TV presenters say the name of Porkoshenco.
Maybe because “pork” = pig in English.
Porkoshenco sounds more like a dirty pig still in Romance language kkkkkkkkkkkkk.
(by Proftel).
Thank you Gleb! The translation work you are doing is critical!
Regards from south of the [U.S.-Canada] border,
American Kulak
@ Gleb Bazov 07 June, 2014 22:37
Kiev junta does not have enough weapons for the military operation
http://crazyivanreport.wordpress.com/2014/06/07/poroshenko-wants-us-weapons/
Thanks for your transcript and translation.
I’ve just finished translating text in which author provided data and suggestions proving the US is not going to aid Ukraine in such a range of weapons Strelkov is afraid of.
I’m missing what has changed that made intervention a bad idea last week and a necessity this week. Chocodile’s speech can’t be it, because hot air from wind bags is a given. He may demand X, Y and Z from the east, but it doesn’t mean he can get it.
As far as I can see, the only thing that should force a Russian intervention is an impending collapse of the Eastern resistance. So long as Russia can help them fight and win covertly, that is what it should keep doing. From what I’m seeing, the Nazi wannabes are no closer to taking the east today than last week.
Now if the situation changes and Right sector is about to enter the big cities in force, then it may be in Russia’s best interests to intervene. God forbid that ever happening.
Celabelle DeCadix said…07 June, 2014 22:11
“And now I’m wondering about an option no one seems to consider: what if the separatists actually laid their arms down?
Isn’t that what the Anglo/Zionists would fear the most?”
From:
June 6th combat SITREP update by “Juan”
“7. Krasni Liman. All males ages 18-40 being arrested by right sector. Those arrested are being taken out of town. Fates unknown. Photos. Militsiya (police) car with right sector.”
That is what would happen throughout the region. Is that what you want?
This report from the South Front Facebook page could be a case of “shrouded” support (to use Afterthought’s phrase). Even if Russian fighters take things one step further there seems to be enough ambiguity about violated airspace e.g. by both sides in the non-war between Syria and Turkey.
Russian planes which passed along the border of the Republic of Luhansk near the village Luhanskaya stopped Ukrainian punitive airstrike on the base of the militia in the area of pansion “Dubrava”.
Brian
07 June, 2014 23:21 Yep, as our Founding Fathers said, Join or Die. There won’t be any sitting this one out if you’re a military age male in much of the Donbass except in Russia or inside a concentration camp, which is basically a British invention and is how they broke the Boer resistance after 2-3 bloody years for the British Army sponsored in part by Kaiser Wilhelm II.
My primary interest in the SE Ukraine conflict is how in many respects it is a proving ground for the tactics and information warfare/control techniques (confiscating all cell phones, computers and cameras door to door, rounding up the males) that would be used in a second round of the 1861-1865 unpleasant events here in the States. And no, a second round would not be drawn up according to the Mason Dixon line, it would in all probability be the BosWash and a few other corridors against the rest of flyover country. Seeing how the people of Boston laid down to martial law when the Boston Bombing became a test case tells me they figure everything from the District of Criminals to Logan Airport can be locked down in one big federal zone without much in the way of problems. It’s Appalachia, Texas and the interMountain west all the way to the Cascades that’s going to be hell to subdue if we get a Kiev style fascist gubm’t here with our own version of the Nazi Guard/Right Sector, maybe FEMA Corps…
American Kulak
So many people here are reacting emotionally over superficial events:
1) Putin is not deviating from his plan, he has NOT given one inch on de-dollarization of energy trade, on the contrary, he’s accelerating it. That’s the financial nuclear bomb for Western Banksters.
2) He did his duty to his people and military by feeling out his enemy at the Normandy event. He laid out his case to the European serf (voters?, proles?) and now has returned home.
3) He will now evaluate, along with his team, the actions of Parashitko (aka meathead) and those puppets we call leaders here in the West. He’ll compare what was committed to him in private to what they actually do. Based on that, his team will activate a preplanned course of action.
4)Poroshenko’s bombastic nationalist statements need to be evaluated in light of the physical threat to his life and the threat to his power posed by Right-Sector and the Natzi-Guard. Until he can get his OWN praetorian guard (not one provided by that faery, Yarosh), Parashchenko cannot make changes to the attacks in the East – he’ll be killed by one of the Neonazis or a member of the death-squads controlled by Brennan. Does chocolate boy strike you as a brave man? He’s about as brave as that running coward Yuschenko.
5) Putin maybe waiting for Chocolate boy to consolidate power, replacing members of the maidan junta with his own people. In the mean time i can’t see Putin reducing covert support to the East.
6) until we see a substantive drop on support for the Donbass Liberation Forces (covert weapons, etc.), no one should jump to conclusions that Putin has sold out, or that a direct Russian invasion is imminent, etc.
7) Putin seems to have (notice i said ‘seems to have’) shown himself to have class (once again) by enduring the humiliation, arrogance and stupidity of those chimpanzee EU ‘leaders’ and royalty at the Normandy event – in order to serve his people’s interests. It may be sickening to watch that inferior clique of vacuous shallow egotistical bigots (the EU and North Altlantic ‘leaders’) shove the President of Russia to the side, but Putin had to let it happen to achieve his objectives.
7) I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions, let’s see how events unfold over the next 3 weeks before we get an indication of the real policy being followed (barring a sudden blitzkrieg or cataclysmic event.)
@ gleb bazov
thx for this translation.
Just spotted this at the Jewish Moon of Alabama site:
“вот так over at the Saker posted some Slavophile nonsense:
Many argue about whether it is necessary to divide the former Ukraine, or whether it can be preserved, provided that Bandero-fascism is destroyed
Ukraine should be divided into Federal Novorossia and the Federal Ukraine. Because most of the residents of the West and centre of the former Ukrainian wish the European future, and South and East – see their future with Russia. And this split is based on civilizational, cultural, ethnic, and eventually economic components. The basis of today’s events in Donbas is the clash of the civilizations of the West and Russian civilization.
What utter rubbish. European civilization is a continuum: from the Anglo-Saxons, to the French, to the Germans, and finally ending with the Russians (to mention just the most significant elements). Russia is part of European civilization; the US is not.
Most of us know that “the basis of today’s event in Donbas” is Russia’s refusal to submit to the Empire. And if there is a “civilizational clash” here, it is not between Europe and Russia, but between continental Europe and Anglo-American imperialism. The “West” does not signify Europe; it is a euphemism for Atlanticism (i.e., the Empire).
Alexander Dugin’s point, that Europe west of Russia is hopelessly decadent and a mere colony of the US, so that only Russia can save European civilization, is an entirely different matter.
Posted by: Demian | Jun 7, 2014 5:53:59 PM | 34″
Rather chickenshit of the zio-queen, posting that at MOA instead of here, as the he knows I was banned from MOA last year for discussing zionist influence in the NWO plutocracy, so cant reply. This is the same pathetic little queen who helped the zionazis on that site gang up on Kalithea and demand she be banned from there for also discussing zionist influence (naturally). I’ve seen this same sayanim likes to ridicule Saker’s religious beliefs at MOA.
“The people have to send out photos and videos of the carnage and suffering. Putin needs to make sure there is satellite web service, wireless service in Donbass. Communication and streaming live will win the Media War.”
Totally agree with this.
‘hacked’ document from Cyber Berkut/hackers claims that reputed CIA asset SBU chairman VA Nalivaychenko sent a lettet to Derek Chollet, the US Assistant Secretary of Defense, with his condolences over the deaths of two ‘agents’ (unknown if CIA, the context suggests DIA) in the helicopter shootdown that killed Ukrainian general and 13 other people on board:
http://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/6254358.html
http://rt.com/usa/white-house-confirms-cia-ukraine-448/
“On Monday, Aleksandr Yakimenko, the head of Ukraine’s security service, the SBU, during Yanukovich’s term went one step further, and said that his successor, Valentin Nalivaychenko, is a double agent working for the CIA.”
“Nalivaychenko was recruited by the US when he was Ukraine’s Consul General in Washington [2001-2003],” said Yakimenko, for whom an arrest warrant has been issued in Kiev since he left the country last month, while speaking to Russia’s Channel One.”
This is huge if it can be confirmed. No way in hell to confirm it for now unless CIA/DIA suddenly announce the deaths of two operatives ‘in Afghanistan’ — that actually died in Ukraine. At the very least as with the ‘I’m an American citizen’ grunt video, Russia is warning the US it can expose much of the ‘covert’ ops underway in SE Ukraine at any time, creating more political headaches for the Obama Administration and GOP neocon backers of its policies in Ukraine.
American Kulak
A Poster going by the name of “Hardcore” submitted a video of Poroshenkos swearing in….this pathetic pig walked right by a guard in distress as if nothing was going on….if that would have been Putin(a human)im sure he would have reached out to the individual and prevented his fall…but not this clown….he most likely views his subjects with equal distain!!!! the video speaks volumes on the character of this man….Ukraine is Damned!!!!
Old Skeptic (22.52)
It seems to me that you and I are looking at the same thing and interpreting them in nearly opposite ways.
You are seeing the world of geopolitical Harry Potter tale, inhabited by omnipotent super-villains who will engage in any irrational action to get their way.
I see a bunch of cowards who couldn’t even attack North Korea and Iran (resorting instead to empty threats), and who are about to sign an act of unconditional surrender to Tehran.
Only time will tell, I guess…
Crazy Ivan @ 07 June, 2014 23:16
“I’ve just finished translating text in which author provided data and suggestions proving the US is not going to aid Ukraine in such a range of weapons Strelkov is afraid of.”
Seems like what concerns Strelkov is that the UKR will finally get what they’ve wanted the most — stealthy or at least small drones with Hellfire missiles capable of launching decap strikes against Strelkov himself and other DNR/LNR commanders with NSA SIGINT help.
More than likely with the border wide open this weekend in many areas Strelkov and his men will start receiving encrypted radios of the type the polite men in green had in Crimea, that the NSA shills tried to blame Ft. Meade’s inability to crack on Edward Snowden. As if radio silence and encryption in the Russian armed forces were invented shortly after Snowden landed at SVO. Without serious encrypted comms being overnighted to Kiev…plus massive NSA help including from Kiev embassy crew, offshore in the Black Sea on those ships and possibly on Joint Rivet type aircraft hovering over the Polish/W. Ukraine borders…the Ukrainians are clearly getting their arses kicked in the SIGINT game.
American Kulak
Celabelle DeCadix said…07 June, 2014 22:11
“And now I’m wondering about an option no one seems to consider: what if the separatists actually laid their arms down?
Isn’t that what the Anglo/Zionists would fear the most?”
This comments is not even funny.
Spoke with a Korean a few days ago, he told me that he recently found out quite a few of the suicide pilots (he did not say how many) that crashed their plane on US Carriers in Hawaii were Korean, Japaneses sent them to die, in a way, one stone killed two birds. In case you did not know,Korea was occupied by Japaneses for over 50 years, many of their male population were killed off in that time.
Why in the world you can be content to be second class citizen on your own land?
I’m not going Ｔｏ predict anything, but woudl like to extend the line of thought I think Putin has been following.
Putin has a black belt [judo]. He does not threaten anyone openly, what he does is act when it is necessary [Crimea]. The entire Ukraine would be occupied territory with a large segment of the population against said occupation. With Crimea secured [port] Putin can sit back and watch the Ukie vaudeville unfold. I’m still not convinced the Russian army will invade the Ukraine, because from a strategic point of view that’s stepping on a pressurized APM; you can’t move, because when you do, it’ll blow up in your face.
There’s something going on between Russia [Putin] and Germany [Merkel], but to what extent?
Anyway, WWIII will not start come August or September, because it’s written in the stars.
more puzzle pieces…
http://qz.com/217234/the-us-and-russia-may-be-headed-for-a-gas-war-in-asia/
True or false?
http://dg-media.ru/news/2014-06-02/novaya-zapis-227?_utl_t=fb
To вот так:
You seem to have a dislike for Hasbaras posting disinfo. Are you Incogman?
http://incogman.net/
@ BOT TAK,
Q: …”Most of us know…”
R: When the can with fallacies is opened, the worms will dance…
How cowardly, to attack you in a place/on a web site where you can’t defend yourself.
Says it all, really.
Chernigov ancient town’ womenfolk, at the gates of the garrison.
“Heavy clouds over Slavyansk, edge of Ukraine is engulfed by fire
We allowed idiots to power. How it’s possible – to shoot at own Motherland?
With you, brothers, are Kharkov and Odessa, Zaporozhje and Kirovograd!
For the sake of lowly foreign interest – a brother won’t go with war at a brother!
Washington gives order to our thieves :o) – to kill babushka-s and children!
You, soldier, don’t obey the stupid orders – enough of deaths in our Motherland!
Never mind that in Lvov it’s a tsardom of Bandera – we will not allow to offend Kievans!
You were shooting at Kharkov city mayor – but Big People of the Land – you won’t defeat!
You will answer country for Slavyansk! For Odessa – whole country will stand up against you!
New Year you will have to celebrate in prizon
A war is declared to you by the country!
Kolomoysky, Poroshenko and Julia – this is our common misfortune,
At Maidan – you fooled Kiev
As to the East – they don’t believe the masters!
Shame on you, Officers, you kill peaceful citizens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2TZ3N27n7w