Poroshenko’s speech in front of the Imperial Senate (MUST WATCH!)

Are you freaking kidding me? The first two minutes made me gawk slackjawed at my screen. Intense cheering for a man who has done nothing. The next five minutes provided more of the same. And since there was NOTHING of worth I stopped watching after about 15 minutes. What bullshit!

Russia bans jews from owning media.(All jews automatically have citzenship in Israel.)

“The restrictions also apply to residents without citizenship and Russians who have citizenship of other nations. “
http://rt.com/politics/188376-russia-media-foreign-stock/

Only the most vile and disgusting war criminals and mass-murderers are invited to speak to joint sessions of Congress: the last time I was this disgusted was when Tony Blair got all of those standing ovations.

The Congress has an approval rating of 7% despite the world’s most expensive, insidious and pervasive system of misinformation and propaganda in world history.

Living in the Imperial Homeland is sometimes like living in a giant Kafka-esque dystopia. Either that or a giant insane asylum. I think every member of the House and Senate are deranged and mentally ill. Perhaps it is a job requirement.

Mass hysteria on par with any Nazi rally. It makes me hope the inevitable destruction of our planet will happen before space is colonised.

Damn Mark, you’re much too kind. The only question left is which I should despise more. The Kiev Junta or the US Congress. Well I guess I can despise them equally as much.

A false narrative seeded with emotional buzz words, punctuated by empty formalistic ovations. Poroshenko sets out the case that a World War is already engaged, with Ukraine the front line. He pleads for US military assistance and predicts years of militarization and tension, insisting that Crimea will eventually be re-incorporated into the Ukraine.

The speech was likely written by someone from the US, as it follows a style developed by Peggy Noonan in the Reagan years: soaring rhetoric on themes of freedom and democracy, calls for a strong (i.e. military) response to threats to freedom and democracy, brief emotional stories featuring “regular folks”, recitation of atrocities and further calls to “stand up” to aggressors.

Porky used the word “war” several times. Instead of “ATO”.

I guess Ukraine doesn’t need the IMF money anymore. As IMF can’t officially give money to a country at war.

Poro’s speech and the Stalinesque applauding of the congresscritters remind me of this speech from Star Wars where Palpatine declares the Galactic Empire to a thunderous applause of the entire Senate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo4cFViNLes

Very few of the men he was speaking to know anything about Eastern Europe.

He was speaking in a foreign language and pulled it off.

It was a good speech that touched every button that would appeal to an American audience. An American speech writer must have helped his Ukrainian speech writer.

He will succeed in getting some level of aid from Congress. The Neocons will be cheering.

My God, this was really 47 minutes full of lies and propaganda. These congress people must be real brainless zombies.

I’m sorry. Even with a psychological barf bag I found it too difficult to listen to this war criminal whore telling lies to a bunch of war criminal whores. And I’m American.

Then there’s the applause factor. Totally sickening.

Next week the Indian PM will visit the US. But he will not get a chance to address the US congress so hes in the same boat as the Chinese president who could not even get a visit to the white house. He might get a free prostate exam though…

This is what I meant by Russia, China , USA all wants the support of India but none of them are trust worthy and willing to make a commitment. Who ever gets India pretty much gets to control the future. The country needs focus and a strong leader. It still shows “the Soul” sometimes. The soul that seems to have been extinguished from many other countries and what the Europeans have been trying to exterminate for thousands of years.

Saker,
This is O/T, but on April 13, 2010, you wrote about John Marciano’s “Empire as a Way of Life” course, and you posted a zip file of the entire course and notes. None of the three links work anymore. Could you please repost this zip file.

I think the course is just as relevant today.

Thank you so much for your tireless work, and for all you do.

Kate

Will Porky be the central evil figure in a future play featuring the destruction of the Ukraine.

He used the word war and he used the word separatists instead of terrorists. We’re at war. Give us lots of money. The IMF doesn’t give us enough.

He asked for weapons. Would they be the same weapons that could not defeat Afghans and Iraqis?

The Russians will be coming to Canada just because of me.

This was the typical “begging” speech of a foreign leader who wants money or military aid. Originally Congress did not want to do it as they are business with fiscal year end business. But Obama talked them into it.

More on Ukraine:

All this staged soap opera drama about divisions between Novorossiya Government and NAF heads is for the masses.

It’s all spectacle, meant for consumption. If you don’t eat processed sugar and aren’t sick with an internal yeast infection or high on prescription drugs, you’ll remember:

”how many times this script has been used”.

Seriously, this script was used about 4 times between December and today. Starting with Tsarev being some sell out. Then he was back in. Then out. Then in.

Then it was the militia. Then they were losing. Pushilin, Gubarev, Strelkov and on and on

Oh Russia selling us out. yada yada yada. We’re weak, confused losing … then BAM BAM BAM rope a dope, Russia makes its move

Truth is this: FSB controls Russia and Novorossiya – and that’s good. To hell with illusion of pluralism and ‘democratic theory. That is not how the world functions, remove the liberal illusion. Surviving states are run by deep states.

All this talk about Novorossiya and Russia having different aims. Sure, maybe in the abstract. But not in any meaningful way in the leadership

I’m sorry that I don’t have the wherewithal to write up another piece on this KEY part of what’s going on, so get it from me here, if you like.

Basically all this talk about Russia ‘punishing Ukraine’ and ‘turning off the gas” is a big no no.

This is basically what the US wants. Just like it wanted Russia to over-commit and officially engage on the ground.

Russian official commitment and overengagement would have led to the Pravy Sektor coup at an earlier stage.

Russia will want to keep Poroshenko in power and have him do a Karzai/Saddam/Assad maneuver, go from being pro-west to pro-east.

This is connected to a realist geopolitical theory as opposed to the idealists like Suchan and the gang of idiots. In realism: that the situation makes the man more than the man makes the situation.

If Porky wants to stay in power, he needs Russian support.

He needs Russian support in a lot of things, from using the Russian FSB to root out the CIA from the levers that control him, to sending in Pravy Sektor fighters into dead zones.

Russia may be wise to come back with another deal. 250 euros per unit of gas.

Statements – “we love Ukraine, we are brothers. Give billions for reconstruction. Get the Chinese to bail out that 15 billion that it already offered in December. “

Autonomy for Novorossiya in a federal Ukraine. Staunchly pro-Russian government in Kiev.

That is a workable scenario.

NATO will do everything to stop that.

Center for Syncretic Studies

This doesn’t just *feel* like watching a bad movie — it’s more like living in one. Or being trapped in an alternate reality. And we’re lucky: we’re just watching this performance in comfort and security, not living the reality behind his vile, vile words.

Anonymous 18:50,

“It makes me hope the inevitable destruction of our planet will happen before space is colonised.”

Yes. But don’t worry — it will.

Blue,

It’s rough, really rough. But we’ve all got to go on and build our own hope, learn how to face the horrors, the absolute awfulness of what our (formerly beloved) country is doing. Bc everyone everywhere is pretty much stuck living with it until either it stops, or we do. And I’d really like to live long enough to see this nonsense over, and done with, and replaced with something decent. Wouldn’t you?

And the more we learn what’s really going on, and the more we talk about what we really want instead (real details, I mean), the better equipped we are to figure out how to get there from here.

I’ll tell you though: Mr. Nora is a pretty easygoing guy and he bellowed once or twice, said, “I will not listen to another word of this!” and stormed out of the room. So yeah, there’s knowing what’s going on, and then there’s this bit of theatre.

The former Foreign Minister in Germany Hans-Dietrich Genscher (FDP) spoke with TV station Phoenix among others on the sanctions against Russia. In this context, it is perhaps interesting that Mr Genscher for two years intensively committed to the release of Michail Chodorkowski and then also right away brought him to Berlin. Now he joins the ranks of former politicians, seeking a more moderate policy towards Russia.

http://www.phoenix.de/content/phoenix/die_sendungen/diskussionen/873278

Hans-Dietrich Genscher (FDP) criticized the current sanction policy of the European Union and the United States against Russia. “I have my doubts whether we will say at the end, which was a very successful operation,” said the former Foreign Minister in the Phoenix series “In the Dialog” with Alfred Schier (Sa. 20.09.14, 00:00 ). “Sanctions are like a ladder, always a stage higher, and at once it is at the end. Then they are faced with the question whether they climb down or jump down. This I would like to spare us.”

NATO has violated promises to Russia

The indignation of Putin over deployments of troops and weapons systems on the Russian western border Genscher deems legitimate: “Of course Russia accepted also, that the newly independent states became members of the European Union. If but then, in addition to the NATO membership, something no more complied with what it had said to, as in the NATO declaration of 1997, indicating that you want to make non-permanent deployments in the new member states, and then missile defense positions are built, then this means a change.” This has caused reactions in Russia. “It is certainly not the case that they, as is prescribed, are built up against Iran, but they are naturally also effective in a different direction.” The “mutual offsetting” should not continue so Genscher. We have arrived at a point, where an open word among few is required in order to find out how we can’t get to the wear our forces in the conflict, but as we make progress.”

Free trade zone with Russia

Further Genscher calls, to pursue the idea of a common free trade zone including Russia which Putin positively evaluated in his speech in the Bundestag in 2001. “It would be nice if this had happen. Then the question of Association of Ukraine with the EU would possibly assessed differently.”

Take Putin and his position seriously

To understand Putin, it is important to deal with his motivations: “Putin is a man who has a clear target to create a position that has nothing to do with the weak position of Yeltsin. It is worth when you make policy with this great country. There is no stability in Europe without Russia, and certainly not against Russia. Of course it is worth, also to take seriously the positions of the representatives of the Government.”

Verbal disarmament towards Russia

Genscher deems the current language in the confrontation with Russia and Putin dangerous and calls for restraint: “In my opinion we should disarm first in the language as a whole.” He thinks the role of the Federal Government is positive. Genscher says the Chancellor and the Foreign Minister were attempting to go forward as a “referee” in the West-to-East relationship. “Strong words have never led us further. I can only say military upgrade has often started with the upgrade of the words. Each nation expects respect from its neighbors. This also applies to the Russian people.”

Porkie is lucky he isn’t dealing with Rome in her day. By now, the Legions would have entered Kiev, order would have been restored (in the Roman manner) and Porkie would have been crucified. There is something to be said for the old ways.

The controllers of Western media are very powerful and rely on the human instinct to conform, to not stand outside the herd, or to look for personal advantage. But has humanity sufficient regard for values, for responsibility to the community, to say “No, we will not accept personal advantage over the good of the general population”?

We want a society that is not based on pretence, on hypocrisy, on evil masquerading as virtue.

We won’t find that in America or in its’ puppets, spouting – to tumultuous applause – pure unadulterated claptrap!

ЕС осудил обыск в фонде «Крым» в Симферополе (The EU condemned the search in the Foundation of Crimea in Simferopol)

http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/9/18/706389.html (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/www.vz.ru/news/2014/9/18/706389.html

“…”We are concerned by the continued intimidation of the Crimean Tatar Mejlis in the Crimea, including raids in their headquarters in Simferopol, searches and interrogations of some activists of Majlis, as well as intimidation of journalists covering these events,” said the representative of the EMU, RIA “Novosti”…”

Translated from the ziofascese language, that means an asset of the ZPC/NWO 5th element has been neutralised and they are doing their usual grrrrly whinging. :)

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Now, understand that Lubos Motl is a typical Eastern European cheerleader of American mythology, “free markets” and the whole package. He has been coming around, though. For him to say something like the following, is very remarkable.

“After I completed watching this 43-minute speech of Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko in front of the U.S. Congress, you will probably believe me that in my whole life so far, I have never considered the overwhelming majority of the Americans to be this breathtakingly stupid – dangerously stupid and pretty much uniformly stupid, in a very bipartisan way.”

http://motls.blogspot.co.at/2014/09/poroshenko-in-us-congress.html

very professionally made video: “why does the us need a big war in europe?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7PpdYil-7Y

german version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqZfMMt_6B8

Kate,
It’s not zipped, but it’s all at http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/03/364938.html

links to other 3 parts are further down on the page.

_Blue

Shock: YES vote conclusively ahead in Scotland on exit polls

http://www.theliberal.ie/shock-yes-vote-conclusively-ahead-in-scotland-on-exit-polls/

tick tock

Yes, it’s always the “AIPAC” controlled Congress Zionists aka Jews run the world conspiracists on board.

Meanwhile, America’s most powerful oligarchs he Koch Brothers who are purchasing State Legislatures around the country and fronting various rightwing inititaitves are virtually invisible on this website.

This website really works for those who don’t know history. But for those that DO, Hearst Press, Ford Motor Company, Prescott, Reader’s Digest, just a vew few of the corporate Christian American fascists who actively supported the Nazi regime in Germany which cost Russia 20 million deaths. It was Ford, with a factory inside Nazi Germany, who supplied the trucks which carried the Nazi German soldiers to the USSR to murder millions of Russian citizens, Jews and Christians alike. 3 million Russian Jews fought in WWII. After the war Ford actually demanded compensation from the US Christian government and Congress for it’s factories that were bombed inside Nazi Germany.

Today we have Boeing Corporation in Seattle WA which extorts tax refunds from local government.

Where is the peace movement in Seattle and America. Nonexistent. Instead, the Fifth columnists are actually those who think the war should be fought solely inside Ukraine with more Russian blood instead of building another nuclear freeze and antiimperialist movement in the US linked to Europe’s anti-NATO group.

But guess what? This is actually happening. There is an anti-imperialist antiwar peace movement composed of those pacifists like American friends and the nonZionists like Jewish Voice for Peace, Unitarians who gave sanctuary to US Veterans during the Vietnam war, and Physicians for Social responsibility. Yes, the 5th columnists in America are interesting, indeed.

Blessed Be the Peacemongers and Warriors in America today.

As for the rest, you ARE in such a hurry for armed confrontation leading to nuclear war. Yes, beat the 5th column war drums a little louder if you can. But I sincerely doubt many are listening to you armchair generals who believe although you cannot build your own peace movement and work in your OWN country, that somehow you imagine you are all Putin’s advisors. Yes, such is the middle class armchair army, delusional and grandiose in their own imaginations, only.

Anonymous 19:02,

Please provide some data to substantiate what looks like just garden-variety Putin-bashing, however “sincerely” stated.

Where-Wolf,

There’s a lot to unpack in what you’re saying. Defending Poroshenko may be a big part of it — though I’m thinking Putin might prefer him to anyone else currently available — but the Neocons seem to be firmly in control of all of Congress, so who in NATO would be behind Pravy Sektor? (Actually, do you think that anyone else in NATO counts except our MIC?) But then, do you think the Old Hands and the banksters are aligned on this? Every time I think I finally see all this a bit clearly, it all fogs up again!

And finally, an old piece of doggerel that just seems a propos:

The Goose and the Common

The law locks up the hapless felon
Who steals the goose from off the common
But leaves the greater felon loose
Who steals the common from the goose.

The law demands that we atone
When we take things we do not own
But leaves the lords and ladies fine
Who take things that are yours and mine.

The poor and wretched don’t escape
If they conspire the law to break;
This must be so but they endure
Those who conspire to make the law.

The law locks up the hapless felon
Who steals the goose from off the common
And geese will still a common lack
Until they go and steal it back.

Top Canadian National lobbying groups 2014:

Oil and mining. Royal Bank in 3rd place.

Gee, how did the Ukrainians become so prominent in Canada?

Canada, always an imperialist subsidiary of the US corporate class.

Alien Tech 20:32

This is what I meant by Russia, China , USA all wants the support of India but none of them are trust worthy and willing to make a commitment. Who ever gets India pretty much gets to control the future.

Some positive reports are coming out of India regarding Xi’s meeting today with Modi.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-09/19/c_133653925.htm

NEW DELHI, Sept. 18 (Xinhua) — Visiting Chinese President Xi Jinping met Thursday here with his Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee, pledging to deepen cooperation and build strategic trust between the two Asian giants.

Xi, who arrived in India Wednesday for a state visit, said that China and India, both emerging economies, are vital forces in the increasingly multi-polar world.

Developing relations between the two countries not only concerns bilateral relations, but is also of strategic importance to Asia and the world, he said.

Xi noted the two countries need to deepen strategic trust, enhance pragmatic cooperation and promote friendship between the two peoples, while properly managing their differences, so that the relationship can be developed healthily along a right track.

Mukherjee highlighted the outcome of the day’s meeting between Xi and Prime Minister Narendra Modi, especially the cooperation agreements signed by the two sides.

Mukherjee said the Indian side is willing to deepen cooperation with China, respect the interests and concerns of one another, and appropriately resolve the undecided issues.

The Indian president said China’s investment is welcome in India’s information technology, manufacturing sectors as well as infrastructure such as railways, roads and harbors. …

Several related items are linked on Xinhua’s Xi Jinping index.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/cnleaders/xjp20140911/index.htm

From the Indian side we have this by M K Bhadrakumar who I have never seen show so much enthusiasm in his commentaries. “What draws Modi to China?” http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/SOU-02-160914.html

… China has shrewdly assessed Modi’s national priorities and sees in them a window of opportunity to transform the relationship with India into one of genuine partnership.

In comparison, Japan stalks China wherever the latter goes, but its actual capacity to match China is in serious doubt. Also, in the ultimate analysis, Japanese businessmen go only when conditions are perfect – unlike his Chinese or South Korean counterparts.

As for the US and the European countries, they are yet to figure out a way to catch Modi’s attention span with an idea that is attuned to his development agenda.

In any case, the Western economies are still on recovery path and their interest in the Indian market has traditionally devolved upon boosting their own civil or military exports, rather than help India build its manufacturing industry or develop its infrastructure.

In sum, neither the Western countries nor Japan can hope to match the scale of involvement that China is offering – setting up industrial parks, making the creaking Indian railway system work and so on.

The Chinese offer to invest US$50 billion in the first instance for the upgrade of the Indian railways speaks for itself.

Put differently, Modi has redefined India’s strategic autonomy. …

Brian

No way could I watch more than about five minutes of the same mob who gave standing ovations for Nutty Yahoo and that Julia Gillard creature from my speck on the globe, with a population far less than the Ukraine … yeah that big land mass called Australia and over-populated at 22m.

Why the Netanyahu treatment of standing ovations? Kosher Nostra congratulating herself:

“Forbes lists Petro Poroshenko as the 130th richest Jew in the world with 1, 6 billion dollars. The would-be President of Ukraine Poroshenko was born Waltzman. Poroshenko is his mother’s name, she was also a Jew”. (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/05/24/weapons-prostitutes-drugs-things-poroshenko-associated-with.html

“According to the popular Russian television channel Russia-1, Poroshenko’s father was a Jew named Alexei Valtsman from the Odessa region who in 1956 took on the last name of his wife, Yevgenya Poroshenko. Poroshenko’s media team did not reply to JTA requests for comment, but they are not indifferent about the subject. Last year, Poroshenko’s spokeswoman asked Forbes Israel to remove her boss’ name from a list of the world’s richest Jews, a magazine source confirmed. Moshe Azman, a chief rabbi of Ukraine, said he asked Poroshenko directly about the rumors. “He told me he wasn’t Jewish,” Azman said”.(http://forward.com/articles/198758/ukraine-presidential-frontrunner-petro-poroshenko/)

It’s Looking very good for Gazprom.

Russia’s 30 year gas delivery deal with China on the faster track:

Russia, China to sign new 30 year gas deal via 2nd route

Russia plans to sign a 30-year gas supply contract with China via the western route, Russian energy giant Gazprom’s CEO Alexei Miller told President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday. The route to supply gas to China via western Siberia may be implemented faster than the eastern route, through which Moscow has agreed to ship the fuel to its Asian neighbor in May.

“Gazprom plans to sign a contract to supply China with 30 billion cubic meters of natural gas via western route over thirty years,” Miller said.

The China-Russia West Route natural gas pipeline project connects gas deposits in Western Siberia and the northwestern part of China via Russia’s Altai region, securing the world’s top energy user a major source of cleaner fuel.
The potential of this route is “enormous”, the Gazprom CEO told the Russian President.
“It is even greater than in Eastern Siberia and, without a doubt, we can increase the volume of gas supplies very quickly via the western route, depending on the growth in demand in the Chinese market,” said Miller.
Gazprom is to sign the 30-year contract with China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) in November. The deal will directly link Russia’s huge gas fields to Asia’s booming market for the first time.

Miller also said Gazprom might consider more than doubling the volume of supply.

Arggh.

“…the only logical conclusion is that the US population is under chemically controlled.“

And as you can see by my diction, I am chemically influenced.

If only I had more.

Standing ovations in the US mean zilch/ nothing / stuff all.

Have attended several Conventions there and at each one – the person introducing the introducer of the speaker – received a standing ovation.

In other words, in the US anyone who stands up to speak gets a standing ovation. You could be telling the audience where the toilets are located and get a standing ovation.

So Porky’s standing ovations were automatic responses – just an opportunity for the audience to relieve their numb bums.. or minds.

WH Auden comments from the grave:

Perfection, of a kind, was what he was after,
And the poetry he invented was easy to understand;
He knew human folly like the back of his hand,
And was greatly interested in armies and fleets;
When he laughed, respectable senators burst with laughter,
And when he cried the little children died in the streets.

@ Anon,

Q: Putin ‘privately threatened to invade Poland, Romania and the Baltic states’

R: Too bad Mr. Putin did it in sign language and only the blind were watching…

Porky was just like a circus dog, every time he uttered a word the hysterical congress jumped up with sighs of astonishment; “Look, this doggy can speaks…and he does it in English…WOW…give him a candy.”

@ Bot Tak,

Q: …as they would not be able to sell it any longer.

R: But they sure as hell would be able to blame Mr. Putin for it.

Oh, and my ‘John Deer’ cap is still seriously pi**** off, bc of your [earlier] snide remarks :o)