by Jimmie Moglia
It is a property of the past to sink into oblivion, and of unpleasant truths to fade into evanescence. To this past belongs the attack on the USS Liberty.
The annals of US history record that, on Jun 8, 1967, the Israelis mistakenly attacked by air, and torpedoed by sea, an unarmed US intelligence ship, killing 34 sailors and wounding 171 others. 2017 marked the 50th anniversary of that attack.
Following are some details of the ship, of the episode and of its aftermath. For, similar to occasions that perhaps we all have felt, a detail that uncalled returns to mind, rekindles fuller memories of a larger connected event, not otherwise spontaneously recalled. And I think that the attack on the Liberty should not be forgotten.
Here, as in most cases involving Israel, any attempt to give a factual account of an event, fails in its promised impartiality. For in the corrupted currents of the world, the very terms ‘Jew’ or ‘Jewish,’ unless associated with praise or deference, taint their utterer with an invisible halo of anti-Semitism.
That is, there is no neutral use of the words. The issue is very, very old and well explained, for example, by Jewish writer Joshua Trachtenberg in his book “The Devil and the Jews.” Where he documents how there has been a propensity at large, dating back to medieval times, to ascribe a legendary element of a biblical and obscure nature to the word ‘Jew’. That propensity has sunk into what Jung called “collective unconsciousness.”
I should also add that two men observing the same object will describe it differently, according to the point of view from which either beholds it; in the eyes of one it shall be a fair prospect, to the other a barren waste, and neither may see right. Wherefore, truth being the legitimate object of history, it is better that she should be sought-for by many than by few. Lest, for want of seekers, among the mists of prejudice and the false lights of interest, she is lost altogether.
The Liberty was first launched at the end of WW2 in Oregon and named then “Simmons Victor.” It belonged to a fleet of cargo carriers quickly built (one every 10 weeks), to replace the losses to submarine attacks during WW2.
Reconverted into a spy ship in 1964, she was renamed “Liberty”. On May 24, 1967, she was dispatched from the Ivory Coast to the Eastern Mediterranean, to monitor radio signals from both Egyptians and Israeli sources, as tensions grew between Israel and the Arab world.
While it is now acknowledged that Israel started the 1967 war, the only and univocal information channels of the time told the public that Egypt attacked and that Israel “had the right to defend itself” – a sentence now imprinted in the US collective mind, and repeated every time when Israel mounts an aggression, carpet bombs Gaza, demolishes Palestinian homes, builds Jewish “settlements” in Palestinian land, and erects walls to keep the Palestinians out of the way.
In May 1967, McNamara, the famous defense secretary, rendered infamous for his role in the Vietnam war, had informed Israel’s foreign minister that American intelligence showed Egypt did not plan to attack. And Johnson, then US president, had feebly called on Israel not to start a war. A call with as much effect as the “concern” of succeeding US presidents, whenever new massive Jewish colonial settlements are established on Palestinian land.
1967, in my view, is a historical milestone for the US and its vassalage to Israeli interests – for previous administrations were more reserved.
For example and for a time, the Jews hailed Roosevelt as a modern-day Moses, until some of his actions and unofficial records surfaced from the archives. Vice President Henry Wallace annotated in his diary a discussion between Roosevelt and Churchill (May 1943), on how to settle the “Jewish question.”
The notes say, “The President approved a plan to ‘spread the Jews thin’ all over the world. He said he had tried this experiment in the Meriweather County in Georgia (where he lived in the 1920s,) by adding four or five Jewish families at each place. He claimed that the local population would have no objection if there were no more than that.” This was enough for the Jewish community at large to label Roosevelt a ‘traitor.’
In 1948 Truman recognized Israel but did not sell arms to the Jewish state. And in 1956, when Israel seized the Sinai Peninsula and the Suez Canal, Eisenhower threatened intervention and a halt to all foreign aid, if Israel did not withdraw.
But by 1960, President Kennedy had well understood Jewish power and its influence on domestic policies – he delivered sophisticated armaments and strengthened relations with Israel.
Johnson equaled or bettered Kennedy. After Kennedy’s assassination he said to an Israeli diplomat, “You have lost a very great friend, but you have found a better one.” And he chose and appointed a full cadre of Jewish and pro-Israel advisers to the White House.
On Jun 8, 1967, reconnaissance flights over the Liberty, sailing about 15 miles off the Egyptian coast, began at 5.15 AM, the next round at 8.50 AM and several other Israeli planes and jets circled the ship until 12.45 PM.
At 1.30 PM three Mirage Jets began the attack. Completely taken by surprise, Liberty’s skipper William McGonagle ordered the only two 0.50 mm guns manned and fired – they were quickly taken out by the jets and the gunners pulverized before they could fire the first shots, however ineffective could the shots be anyway.
The attacks continued, one every 45 seconds, as the jets strafed the ship and circled back for another round. They hit with cannon and rockets. Then they aimed at the engine room below the smoke stack. Next came Napalm bombs that turned the deck into an inferno.
Six minutes into the attack, the Liberty, with whatever communication resources were left, radioed for help to the Sixth fleet located further west. “Any station, any station, this is Rockstar, we are under attack” The operator on the aircraft carrier Saratoga could not understand the message. On the Liberty they changed transmitter. After some interminable minutes Saratoga replied “Roger” and Liberty screamed, “We are under attack and need immediate assistance.”
But now the Saratoga operator asked for the identification code. The Liberty’s operator, with cannon from three jets strafing the ship, had to retrieve the code from a book, and finally Saratoga replied reassuringly, “Authentication is correct. I am standing by for further traffic.”
Meanwhile, before the air attack began, the Liberty’s radar operator had spotted three unidentified ships approaching fast, and alerted the captain. In the confusion and carnage that followed, as the dead and wounded piled on deck, no one thought of the approaching ships. Now Captain McGonagle saw through his binoculars that the three boats, maneuvering in attack formation, were Israelis. Up to that moment he and everybody else thought that the attackers were Egyptians.
In the meantime the original mast with the US flag had been hit – and the Liberty sailors raised a new larger American flag.
The forward torpedo boat opened fire on the defenseless ship. This would provide cover for the attacking boats to get close and launch their torpedoes. Though crippled himself and with a crippled ship operating with one engine, McGonagle attempted evasive maneuvers. Of the 5 torpedoes launched by the Israelis, one hit – creating a gash 24 ft high and 39 ft wide. The Liberty listed by 8 degrees; the entire intelligence section was instantly flooded trapping and killing 20 people.
Now the torpedo boats halted fire while remaining at less than 800 yards from the Liberty. Still shocked, amazed and in disbelief, the Liberty signaled repeatedly with a hand-held Aldis lamp, “US Naval Ship.” “
Do you need any help?” signaled the Israelis. A response that, in the circumstances, was almost adding insult to injury. “No” signaled back the Liberty.
The torpedo boats had not yet departed when two oncoming Israeli helicopters circled the ship. Fearful of more attacks, McGonagle had the international flag hoisted signaling “Not Under Command.”
At 6.40 PM another Israeli helicopter arrived and dropped a bag containing a business card from the US Naval Attaché at the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, Ernest Castle. On the back of the card there was a hand-written question, “Have you any casualties?” Which seemed another insult added to injury. The Liberty’s deck was a wreck, still strewn with blood and some dead sailors… impossible to miss.
How about the call for help from the Sixth Fleet? After the signal was authenticated, the Saratoga launched some fighter jets but, moments later they were unexpectedly and inexplicably recalled, waiting for the arrival of another aircraft carrier, the America.
Eventually, the planes from the America took off and the squadron leader, while reassuring the Liberty radio operator, asked a logical question, “We are on the way, who is the enemy?” Good question. For the sailors on the Liberty, as well as Captain McGonagle could not as yet believe their eyes that the enemies were the Israelis.
At that moment, 4.14 PM, both the Saratoga and the America received a message from the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, as follows, “Israeli aircraft erroneously attacked US ship. Israel sends apologies and wants to know which other US ships are near the war zone.” The US carriers immediately recalled all air strikes.
The first US ship to reach the Liberty to carry away the dead and wounded arrived at 6.40 AM the next day. It took three days for the crippled vessel to arrive at Malta. 20 corpses had remained unreachable in the area hit by the torpedo, drenching the ship with a smell of death.
The plan was to repair the Liberty, enabling her return to the US. It was the beginning of a tortuous public relations battle.
While the ship was still en route to Malta, some White House advisers in Washington suggested sinking it, to avoid or minimize embarrassment.
In Malta, a large tarpaulin-looking cover hid the gash caused by the torpedoes. All crewmembers, injured and uninjured were ordered, under threat of punishment, not to answer any questions from the press.
Meantime in the US, the Administration struggled to find what to say and what to do. The press was jubilant about Israel’s victory in the Six Day War. The Jews organized a rally in Washington to celebrate it. Placards said “Moses led us out of the land of Egypt, now Moshe Dayan has led us back.” Jewish White House aids Levinson and Wattenberg, in a memo to the President, suggested that he express his full support for Israel. David Ginsburg, a president’s friend and leader of the Jewish community even wrote the encomiastic speech that the President would later deliver at the rally.
In the jubilation for Israel’s victory, the Liberty affair appeared a minor incident. The press completely bought the idea that the Israeli attack was an error. Senator Jacob Javits, the same Jewish senator that a few years before managed to carry through the ‘open immigration’ policy stated, “With Israel we know it was a mistake, a miscalculation could take place in any place in the world.”
In the meantime, Egypt had accepted the cease-fire, but Israel had opened another front in Syria, to occupy the Golan Heights. As for the Liberty, the main interest of the media was not the attack, the dead and the wounded, but why the Navy had a ship in the area. Which shows how often trifles excite an exuberance of interest, while the core of an event receives little or lesser attention.
The first official White House explanation said it was a scientific research ship doing its job, but this did not satisfy the press. If so, why not inform the Israelis of the ship’s presence?
The administration then concocted an even more unbelievable story. The Liberty was verifying if communications exchanged by bouncing signals off the moon were reliable. In scope and absurdity, the explanation parallels the answer given by the head of NIST (National Institute of Research and Technology), Shyam Sunder, while presenting the official NIST report on 9/11.
During the conference, a Physics teacher, David Chandler, had clearly demonstrated with a video, that building 7 had fallen at the acceleration of gravity, the signature of a controlled demolition. Unable to respond to the obvious evidence, the director said, “Gravity is the force that keeps the universe together.” (I am not making it up)
As the number of reported Liberty casualties mounted, one reporter, during a press meeting, asked what was the President’s reaction. The WH spokesman replied that the President was “deeply grieved.”
In the meantime, Israel claimed that the Liberty, when spotted, appeared to escape at high speed toward Egypt, flew no flag and looked like an Egyptian cargo ship, the “El Queseir”, which was actually half the size of the Liberty and designed to carry 400 men and 40 horses.
Though almost incredible today, the Liberty attack stirred little interest or controversy at the time. But we must remember the moment, filled with enthusiasm about Israel’s victory, which, thanks to the Jewish sponsored massive celebrations, made it almost appear as an American victory. And, more ominously, the moment was filled with concerns about the mounting problems in Vietnam.
Besides, the dead and wounded of the Liberty were less than the price paid in one day by America, in life and limb, to ‘defend democracy’ in Vietnam.
The New York Times called the attack one of the “many mistakes that invariably occur in war…. the Israeli, flushed with victory made an error in identification… accident rather than design snuffed out (sic) the lives of some and caused injuries to others of the Liberty’s crew.”
One other striking aspect of the aftermath was the almost total lack of concern for the victims, whose reported number increased each day, while many sailors faced catastrophic injuries and a life of disability, impairment and pain. Proving how everything, on this side of the grave, is regarded rather in consequence of the habit of valuing it, than from any opinion that it deserved value. For the relative indifference to the victims is proof of the relative indifference to their value.
The main objective (inside the White House and notably with Johnson and McNamara), was not to antagonize Israel, along with the fear of not appearing sufficiently pro-Israel with the cadre of Israeli-firsters that comprised advisers, consultants, aids and secretaries within the Administration.
There were multiple meetings and exchanges between Jewish members of White House and the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Cynically, some suggested that the attack on the Liberty could help weaken the accusations of American support for Israel, and gain some credibility with the Arabs.
It was now clear that the Administration had (or for that matter has) no leverage with the Jewish state. The US had urged Israel not to launch a war. Just 20 days before the attack, Johnson had affirmed America’s commitment to the “political independence and territorial integrity of all Middle Eastern nations.” Israel itself had claimed that it had no territorial ambitions. The reader can decide for himself on the value or worth of those words.
But in the fevered exchanges with the Israeli US embassy, the Administration achieved one success. Namely, the Israeli embassy agreed to tone down and backdate an official statement, ready to be released, essentially accusing the US of being responsible for the attack on the Liberty.
The Israeli ambassador had suggested to Tel Aviv to at least hold responsible some of the attackers – suggestion fiercely rejected by Israel. The official Israeli court inquiry was, expectedly, a joke. So, for that matter, was the official inquiry conducted in the US, which mainly centered on discrepancies in the timing of the attacks as reported by the surviving sailors called to depose.
The final transcript mirrors the shallowness of the investigation. Many officers said the court seemed afraid of uncovering information that could prove that Israel deliberately attacked the Liberty. A sailor, Scott, photographed the first reconnaissance plane in the morning of the attack. He thought he had given the court a critical piece of information, but the court was uninterested. They dismissed his testimony stating that reconnaissance flights began much later. Declassified Israeli records show that the plane photographed by Scott, was indeed the first to conduct a reconnaissance flight. Nor the American government even asked Israel to let its pilots, torpedo boat skippers or commanders, testify in the US Court.
In the end, the “conspiracy theorists” of this tragic event are, officially, those who do not believe that the attack on the Liberty was a mistake. In this regard, it was almost a return to the future of 9/11 – when 19 fumbling Arabs scored a checkmate on America, and displayed unbelievable acrobatic maneuvering skills in piloting jumbo jets for the first time in their life.
In 1980 Israel paid 6 m$ to the families of the Liberty’s dead and wounded (in 3 yearly installments of 2 m$/each). This is a fraction of a fraction of what constitutes America’s yearly aid to Israel.
The final telling episode involves the wounded skipper of the Liberty, William McGonagle. He received the Medal of Honor for bravery, but Johnson refused to give it to him in person, which is the tradition. An Admiral commented, “I am surprised they didn’t just hand it to him under the 14th Street Bridge.”
On June 8, 1997, McGonagle met the remaining survivors of the Liberty at the Arlington Cemetery. Through the years he had been publicly silent, though he did not believe in the error of identification. In what was to be his last and only related public address, he told the survivors, “It’s about time that the State of Israel and the US Government tell what happened to the crewmembers of the Liberty and the American people.” He died less than two years later.
The first terrorist attack and burning of a TWA plane on the ground occurred in 1970, when it became clear that Israel would not return the lands occupied in the 1967 war.
That was the beginning of hijackings, terrorist attacks, murders, Intifadas, genocides in Gaza and Lebanon, wars and more wars. During the 1980s the new Israel’s Oded-Yinon’s Plan called for a greater Israel, from the Nile to the Euphrates. In the late 1990s came the call for a “New Pearl Harbor.” In 2001 we had the “New Pearl Harbor”, followed by the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, and countless other wars against sundry “terrorists.”
As far as we can know, the plan for a Greater Israel has not been canceled. During his administration, Obama declared that peace with the Palestinians should be achieved on the basis of returning to Palestine the lands occupied in 1967. Next day, uninvited, the Prime Minister of Israel, flew to Washington to deliver a counter-speech to the joint audience of Congress and the Senate. He received 29 standing ovations.
And how about Jewish influence? Here is a quote from the Los Angeles Times from Joel Stein, “I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.”
I attempted to relate the main events of the attack on the Liberty, the related opinions of some among the victims of the attack, and of some among the managers of its aftermath. To the best of my knowledge the information is correct.
I think that much injustice has been done, and much justice left undone by the parties involved after the attack on the Liberty.
However, I am equally aware that when truth intrudes uncalled, and brings unpleasant memories in her train, the passes of the intellect are barred against her by prejudice and passion. If sometimes, she forces her way by undisputable evidence, she seldom keeps possession of her conquests, but is ejected by some favored enemy or, at best, obtains only a nominal sovereignty, without influence and without authority.
You could have summarized it in three words. “Russia did it.”
😁
JM
“However, I am equally aware that when truth intrudes uncalled, and brings unpleasant memories in her train, the passes of the intellect are barred against her by prejudice and passion. If sometimes, she forces her way by undisputable evidence, she seldom keeps possession of her conquests, but is ejected by some favored enemy or, at best, obtains only a nominal sovereignty, without influence and without authority.”
I came to the conclusion some time ago that those who refuse to adjust to factual information and cling to their prejudices instead are best just written off as a hopeless cause.
“This is a fraction of a fraction of what constitutes America’s yearly aid to Israel.”
Now thats an understatement…
Just on the basis of the $38 Billion 10 year aid package that Obama signed off on, Israel gets over $10 million per day.
And there are multiple other aid that gets sent to them that adds up to 100s of millions more.
Senator Lindsey Graham of the US Knesset is on record saying that the aid package was way too small and he vowed to increase it.
http://news.antiwar.com/2016/09/14/senator-38-billion-israel-aid-deal-not-enough/
The senator who was visiting Israel and reporting to his masters at time the deal was signed was so upset, that he reportedly told the Israeli prime minister that Obama could go f… himself.
The US is an Israeli vassal state and it has to pay tribute to Zion and do its bidding.
The Liberty incident is just one of many that proved long ago the power and corrosiveness of Jewish influence in America.
Today Trump’s presidency is being derailed largely because Zion wants it derailed.
No matter now much support the US gives to Israel it never be enough.
Never…
USA gives billion$ to Israel and American politician$ do what Israel want$.
Nifty……
I read only until “…two 0.50 mm guns manned and fired”
Error on this and not credible the rest
Shame on you.
0.50 cal machin gun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_.50_machine_gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDfVMIgzXQ
Typing error. We all do that occasionally.
Kent
“…. And with old woes new-wail my dear time’s waste.
Then can I drown an eye, unused to flow,
For precious friends hid in death’s dateless night …
….. And, heavily, from woe toe tell o’er
The sad account of fore-bemoaned moan
Which I new-pay, as if never paid before. …”
Thank you, Jimmy, for this and for all you have done before.
Good analysis, but a couple points. According to an article I saw on Veterans Today, JFK crossed the Israelis and for that matter elite Jewish circles in several ways. First, he did not back invading Cuba, which meant that Meyer Lansky, casino owner and criminal, couldn’t get back control of his Cuban assets, such as casinos and most likely brothels. Second, JFK wanted to nationalize the central bank, starting with issuing US Treasury $2 bills. Given the Fed’s ties to international (aka Rothschild) bankers, that was a serious offense to those interests. Third, he demanded that Israel not proceed with a nuclear weapons program and demanded to inspect the Dimona complex. So in fact he was not considered a friend of Israel’s from what I have read.
Ask the average Jewish person about a Jewish conspiracy, and they’ll say, “I’m sure not part of it, because I am not benefiting.” Most Jews (and coming from a Jewish background, I was schooled in the official version of Jewish history) have no more idea of what the leadership is doing, than Americans do of US leadership. And they also don’t want to know.
However, it was not always like this. Before Israel was founded, there was significant opposition to Zionism especially as practiced by the extremist elements, such as Irgun, Stern Gang, and military formations, who attacked Jews who opposed their agenda. There was a school of thought for a one state solution in harmony. But that was never the plan of the Rothschilds and Jabotinsky’s and Ben Gurion’s. The failure of the Einstein, Hannah Arendt and Jewish leftist intellectual class in 1948 was reflected in a letter of warning to the NYT, available online, clearly pointing out the fascist, racist nature of those who got control.
At this point, while there is opposition to Israeli policies, and even questioning the whole Jewish narrative and history by people born Jewish and Israeli, they are about as marginalized as the Saker site is. Voices in the Wilderness decrying lies and injustice, for the most part unheard and for that matter, demonized as ‘self hating’.
Some good perceptions, Eric , but a few unfortunate weaknesses:
“And they also don’t want to know.”
Well, “they” be they ordinary Jews in America, ordinary Jews in Israel, or ordinary gentile Americans had better wake up and smell the coffee and get their heads out of the sand pretty f-ing fast!
Willful blindness in order to avoid “stress” is some sort of understandable excuse that humanity in general ought to have some sort of sympathy for???
I don’t think so!
The Empire occultists and pedophiles that deployed Jewish gangsters and killers to terrorize ordinary Jews into mind-controlled slaves did the same to Americans. Unless these “good” (but very little) people get bigger they will be thrown under the bus as scapegoats, in due time. .
These little Americans are not quite so well liked as the used to be, internationally, have you noticed???
And for good reason!!
If they don’t figure that out and act to stop it (like an increasing # of Americans and Jews ARE doing….BTW) can you say they are not complicit in setting themselves up?
I can’t.
ALSO: “….they are about as marginalized as the Saker site is. ”
This is about the limpest formulation I have read in some time.
“Marginalized” compared to WHAT??
Compared to when the idea of starting a blog was just a vague intention not yet on the front burner of Saker’s mind??
Please stop practicing auto-marginalization.
It only serves the Empire and their gangsters who you apparently would (possibly) not wish to side with. If you don’t see ways some others are becoming more effective in waking up their own capacities for resistance and similar capacities in many more they might affect…..perhaps try searching for such stronger examples and building the courage or reassurance that you are not alone and eternally marginalized
Jimmy says little about goal…
I have read a claim that the attck was designed to induce US to either permit Israel to, or to do an attack itself, against Egypt with “special explosives” – if you’ll permit the term..
That smells like an intelop…
And LBJ? They had the stuff on his criminal past and probably, by ’67, on his involvement wit the job in little old Dallas…in short, LBJ by the short hairs…
LZ
Response to Jimmy de Moglia
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Sir … I was disappointed by your article which, for my money, strays too far from the truth. Two years ago I wrote the following account of this event. It’s in French, hopefully a language which you master sufficiently to glean the essential of what I dug up about this joint false flag operation to justify a US attack on Egypt. I go even further than Dean Rusk, or indeed Ray McGovern, both, convinced that this was a deliberate attack.
I believe LBJ and associates, like Mathilde Krim, worked hand in hand with the Israeli operatives. Here’s the URL :
L’USS Liberty et l’Opération Cyanide Par Paul Matthews – Le 16 juin 2015 http://lesakerfrancophone.fr/luss-liberty-et-loperation-cyanide.
Even if you can’t read French there is the BBC documentary USS Liberty Dead in the Water (Full Movie) Americans Murdered by Israel. Documentaire produced and directed by Christopher Mitchell, research by Peter Hounam © 2002 BBC http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/uss-liberty-dead-in-the-water/.
It was researched by journalist, Peter Hounam (famous for his rôle in the Mordechai Vanunu affair) and was made and broadcast at a time before the BBC got ‘totally nobbled’ to become a mouthpiece for the sayanim.
It helped me form my opinion and is still available on youtube :
“USS Liberty: Dead In The Water” (BBC Documentary 2002) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOH1XMAwZA.
USS Liberty Dead In The Water BBC Documentary 2002 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNEPXJz0J38.
I provide a lot more background material and also think you are seriously wrong about JFK and recommend you read the relevant chapter 26 (page 253) ‘La culture israélienne et la terreur sous fausse bannière’ here :
JFK/11 Septembre – 50 ans de manipulations 2017 Laurent Guyénot 16,95 € Editions Blanche Kontre Kulture.
http://www.kontrekulture.com/produit/jfk11-septembre-50-ans-de-manipulations
If you’re skint you can read this excellently researched work as an ebook :
http://www.histoireebook.com/index.php?post/Guyenot-Laurent-JFK-11-septembre.
Laurent Guyénot admits, as we all do, his debt of gratitude to Michael Collins Piper.
Michael Collins Piper: FINAL JUDGEMENT lecture [Mossad connection to JFK Conspiracy] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2utTWSdq8YY.
Paul,
I read your interesting article. Criticism is welcome, especially if it corrects errors, clarifies obscurities and rectifies distortions. Besides … criticism is the salt of literature, or – should we say – of anything written with the purpose to inform readers, refresh memories or stimulate debate.
After reading your article I found nothing of substance that would disprove the content of what written here.
Any controversial historical event produces in its train an immensity of documentation, testimonies and statements, often contradictory.
Far from me to claim completeness of narrative or resolution of contradictions. My humble objective was (is), to help keep alive the memory of a tragic event, and to inform without overinforming those who may not have the time or the opportunity to explore the subject beyond the headlines.
Second response to Jimmy de Moglia 17 August 2017 on August 17, 2017 · at 8:44 pm UTC
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Jimmy … Your articles are good, often entertaining, well researched. You say you wanted to help keep alive the memory of a tragic event. Fair enough, You claim that after reading my article you found nothing of substance that would disprove the content of what you had written.
I drafted my piece two years ago. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since then. In your 2017 piece on the USS Liberty you write : «I attempted to relate the main events of the attack on the Liberty, the related opinions of some among the victims of the attack, and of some among the managers of its aftermath. To the best of my knowledge the information is correct».
It is correct, but incomplete and occasionally tendentious. For example you also write : “But by 1960, President Kennedy had well understood Jewish power and its influence on domestic policies – he delivered sophisticated armaments and strengthened relations with Israel. Johnson equaled or bettered Kennedy. After Kennedy’s assassination he said to an Israeli diplomat,“You have lost a very great friend, but you have found a better one.” And he chose and appointed a full cadre of Jewish and pro-Israel advisers to the White House”.
Your prose clumsily appears to put LBJ and JFK on an equal footing. I can’t let you get away with that :
LBJ was a power hungry, congenital liar, with possible Jewish ancestry, shady business deals and a past implicating him in murders. This in testimony from his brother RFK and others and which shows that JFK was planning to ditch his vice president. We cannot overlook LBJ’s close association with a Zionist woman – a convert to Judaism who had been married to an Irgun member. She worked ‘on cancer cures’ for the Weizmann Institute in Rehovat south of Tel Aviv, whose medical and scientific research has both military and civilian applications. Cf, the neighboring facility, the Institute for Biological Research, in Ness-Ziona, where Israel develops biological and chemical weapons. None of the implications of this information are available here :
https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/krim-matilde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathilde_Krim
JFK, was a staunch Catholic of Irish ancestry. The 35th US President was in office for a mere 2 years, 10 months et 2 days – half of his mandate. He had fired CIA director Allen Dulles, had compromised and disrupted casino owner and mobster Meyer Lansky’s business interests in Cuba, was endeavouring to strengthen ties with Nikita Khrushchev, despite the fact that his hands were tied over Vietnam (NB Martin Luther King was shot and killed because of his public opposition to the Vietnam War). JFK was clearly beginning to seriously undermine the interests of the militaro-industrial complex. Then there’s the correspondence with David Ben Gurion over Dimona. Ensconced in the White Office with a fiend like J Edgar Hoover on your back you simply cannot turn around a Titanic in 2 years, 10 months and 2 days. Trump may not even have that much time left !
FYI : 10 juin 2017 Un agent de la CIA se confesse sur son lit de mort : «Je faisais partie de l’équipe chargée d’assassiner John F. Kennedy » http://reseauinternational.net/un-agent-de-la-cia-se-confesse-sur-son-lit-de-mort-je-faisais-partie-de-lequipe-chargee-dassassiner-john-f-kennedy/.
Finally after reading /remembering-the-liberty/ I didn’t come away with the impression that this was a false flag operation which failed to deliver for a number of reasons, two of them being the heroic resistance of the crew of the USS Liberty and the presence of a Soviet warship in the vicinity of the attack.
Writers like Maurice Bardèche (Cf. Nuremberg I (1948) and II (1950) are vital to keep the flame of truth alive.
But we have more important fish to fry than arguing the toss over 1967 as pretexts for global war grow :
/the-neocons-are-pushing-the-usa-and-the-rest-of-the-world-towards-a-dangerous-crisis/.
/syrian-war-report-august-17-2017-iran-builds-long-range-missile-factory-in-syria/.
/abby-martin-speaks-the-plain-truth-about-the-zionist-regime-in-palestine/.
Littered with so many unnecessary profanities Abby Martin’s bleeding heart testimony over her belated visit to Palestine will possibly open a few more eyes and ears. In the meantime the dismissal of senior white males with a relatively developed level of political culture in France from authoritative mainstream media positions (and I suspect everywhere else under Talmudic control) and their replacement with politically illiterate bimbos and assorted airheads with androgynous demeanours, bodes ill for social cohesion and sanity. All the best … Paul
A pivotal moment – when Israel learned it could murder Americans with impunity. Something that they have fully exploited ever since.
This quote below is self explanatory.
Jim Ennes, who was a watch standing officer on the USS Liberty asked me for a statement as to what I knew of the transcripts of Israeil conversations and the ship. This is what I sent him. I was quoted about this in the Chicago Tribune and Baltimore Sun on Monday. pl
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“Dear Jim I was a student in the Military Intelligence Officer Advanced Course at Ft. Holabird, Maryland (Baltimore) in 1967-1968. The course lasted about ten months. We students were required to take several electives from a group offered and I took a course in Cryptology. This was taught by people from the NSA School at nearby Ft. Meade. This course was taught in the winter or early spring of 1967-1968. There were several sub-courses, one of which had to do with voice intercepts. In the course of this, the instructor introduced a booklet produced at Ft. Meade as material for the course. It contained various course materials. Among them were transcripts of the translated intercepts of radio conversations between the Israeli strike commander and his base before and during the attacks on USS Liberty. The instructor, a retired cryptologic warrant officer or NCO identified the transcript as being of the Liberty incident. It was also so marked in the booklet. In the transcript, the flight leader spoke to his base to report that he had the ship in view, that it was the same ship that he had been briefed on and that it was clearly marked with the US flag. I think he said that the ship was displaying the US flag on an upper deck, but my memory of that might be inexact. He asked for confirmation of his orders to attack the ship and seemed reluctant (understandably) to attack the ship. He asked more than once and was told to carry out his orders and attack the ship. There was some further discussion of damage to the ship. That is all I remember. Regards W. Patrick Lang Colonel (Ret.) US Army”
Several years ago I read a book by John Loftus and Mark Aarons which had a chapter on the Liberty. They said that an Hebrew/Arabic speaking person was brought aboard the ship and sent to a special room in the ship. As indicated, the Liberty was a spy ship and according to Loftus this person listened to Israeli chatter in the field and then transmitted the information to a British base in Malta, who then sent it to united Arab forces in the field.
This chatter pinpointed Israeli positions and they were getting systematically attacked. Nothing is said on whether or not the US was contacted about this before or after the raid on the Liberty, but we can conclude that they were aware after the raid.
This is why the Liberty was attacked and why LBJ did nothing to help the ship. This is why the whole thing got covered up.
Moglia is such a great writer that I enjoy reading whatever he writes, regardless of the content.
As usual I appreciate very much Moglia writings. I’d like to highlight the difference between two incident involving american sailors and ship:
-“to pay back” the gulf of tonkin incident thousand of america lives have been broken
-no pay back for the Liberty incident
It was no mistake.
The Israeli army in Sinai had captured a vast number of Egyptian prisoners. The Israeli invasion was predicated on rapid advance and the killing of all Egyptian prisoners who may hinder such an advance.
USS Liberty was a spy ship and in a position to observe what was happening – the massacres. The Israelis chose to destroy this ship so as to destroy the evidence of that which they were doing.
After the war, the Egyptian government decided not to tell their populace what had happened – because they would have been overthrown.
http://egyptianpows.net/