I friend just sent me this in an email and I thought that the best thing to do what to reply with a post. Here is what he wrote:
I’ve been wondering something for some time now regarding the “war” in Ukraine and Novorossiya. Occasionally I hear mutterings from the NAF about “going on the offensive” sometime soon (supposedly when a certain turning point has been reached or some unnamed goal accomplished). However, it has surprised me that there has as of yet been no small operations or maneuvers in greater Ukraine and specifically in Kiev itself. It would seem to me that a targeted covert campaign would be within the scope of the abilities of the NAF, no? Planned incidents and/or hit and run strikes within the city that would lessen the taste for war among the (it would appear) mostly indifferent people. Or is it thought that this might actually add some resolve to continue the fighting? History shows such actions to be the pattern, though the overall effectiveness of such tactics can be fairly questioned in most cases, I think. Curious as to your thoughts.
This is a very interesting question and a fairly complex one. In reality, there are two distinct issues here:
a) why is there no apparent resistance in the rest of the Ukraine?
b) where is the Novorussian counter-offensive?
The two issues are linked by a common denominoator, but they are qualitatively different. I suggest we take them one by one:
Why is there no apparent resistance in the rest of the Ukraine?
The first thing to admit here is that not all Ukrainians are opposed to the new junta. Well, by now probably most are, but not with the kind of determination which would make you join a protest movement or, even less so, an insurgency. For one thing, most Ukrainians have been raised under various degrees of russophobia, from the more-or-less nationalistic and russophobic Soviet Ukraine, to the rabidly nationalistic and russophobic Ukraine after 1991, to the insanely nationalistic and russophobic Ukraine after 2013, the official ideology and political climate in Banderastan is hysterically anti-Russian. So even those Ukies who might not be neo-Nazis of Bandera-groupies are not at all necessarily pro-Russian at all.
Second, there is an information blackout in the state and even “independent” media. We have all seen how even directors of major TV channels get beat up by Ukie nationalists if the don’t broadcast “comme il faut” programs. You can imagine what happens to smaller media outlets! So the population is told that the Ukie army is fighting, I kid you not, a Russian invasion! They are truly told that the Donbass if chock full of Russian Spetsnaz forces and tanks. I have even seen a report about 30 Russian T-90 MBTs attacking a Ukie defended village. So the level of propaganda and, frankly, zombification is simply unimaginable and while many Ukrainians might not like the junta in power, that does not mean that they would like a Russian invasion of the Ukraine.
Third, while this is practically not covered in the western media or blogosphere, most Ukrainian exiles agree that there is real terror in rump-Ukraine, especially in the cities of Kharkov, Kiev and Odessa: hundred of people have been kidnapped, disappeared, tortured, beaten, threatened or otherwise abused. The police and SBU dungeons are full of suspected “terrorists” “traitors” and “separatists”. People get threatening telephone calls, family members are threatened on the streets, at work, in school, etc. The moral heir to Stepan Bandera are very, very good at that kind of stuff and since the world media, human rights organizations and governments are more than happy to look away, the Nazi death-squads in Ukieland don’t have to be shy about their terror.
Fourth, and this is the painful part to admit. Just like in Novorussia, most Ukrainians prefer to just sit, wait and see what will happen. These types are almost exclusively interested in material goods and to them Russian or Ukrainian, Nazi or democratic, Orthodox or Uniat – does not matter. What matters are the contents of their fridge, the car they drive, the TV set in their dining room. If they were told to become Zimbabwean Anarchist Hare-Krishnas to get a better income they would. I don’t feel comfortable going into the “why” this is the case, but let’s just say that Ukrainian passivity is not a myth.
For all these reasons combined, there is no insurgency, no uprising, no sabotage in Banderastan. Or, if there is, it is minor. Most Ukrainians are confused, frightened, partially brain-washing and have to rely on rumors. All this will make a population very passive. From that point of view, Crimea was the ultimate counter-example and the Donbass in somewhere in the middle, hence all the difficulties faced by the Kremlin (and the Novorussian resistance) to somehow solve this problem.
As for the Novorussian forces, they simply don’t have the luxury to prepare sabotage operation deep behind enemy lines. Right now, what the Novorussian Resistance Forces are doing is “playing the fire brigade” – they are rushing from one point to another to “extinguish” various Ukie penetrations into Novorussian held territory. Let’s look at that a little closer:
Where is the Novorussian counter-offensive?
The rumors of a Novorussian counter-offensive have been circulating for weeks, and yet no counter-offensive is materializing? Why?
The key here is the numerical and technological superiority of the Ukie side. Let me try to explain.
For the Novorussian the equation is simple: the shorter the line of contact (or, if you want, “frontline”) with the enemy is, the better. The longer it is, the worse. Think of the scene in The Matrix were Neo is fighting a horde of Agents Smith: even though Neo is surrounded by hundreds or, possibly, thousands of Agents Smith , the only fight 1-5 at the same time simply because you can only fit so many Agents Smith into the immediate perimeter around Neo. Real warfare is not that simple, of course, but the underlying idea is the same and this is one of the reasons Strelkov gave up Slaviansk.
The second thing which a lot of readers ask is: excuse me, but if the Ukies are losing, why are they constantly advancing? There is no contradiction here. What the Resistance does is regularly retreat to let the Ukies enter into Resistance territory which they turns into a pocket or “cauldron” for them. At which point the Ukies either die or retreat. Please keep in mind that in most cases the Ukie advance is reported, but the subsequent retreat is not. Finally, the western media feeds the public “approximate” maps which are, in reality, simply false. This is one taken today from the BBC website:
Compare that with with this one of the same period:
The contrast could not have been bigger. The western presstitutes make two crucial mistakes: first they assume that if unit X moved from point A to point B that means that point A still remains in friendly hands. This is not so. Most of the time as soon as unit X moves from point A to point B, the other side retakes A and unit X is surrounded. Second, the presstitutes also think that all the Russian or Novorussia info is “propaganda” whereas what comes out of western sources is reliable. Hence, you get maps like the one above: worse than useless – actually misleading.
By the way, there is a guy on YouTube called Dima Svets who makes pretty good commented reviews of combat maps (like this one). He speaks in Russian, but if you want to just get a feel for what the real maps looks like he is a good resource.
As I said above, most of what the Novorussians are doing right now is “playing the fire brigade”: the Ukies attack on all fronts, as soon as they begin to punch through the Novorussian positions, the central command sends in reinforcements who stop the advance, and try envelop the Ukie force before it can move back. The reason why this basic maneuver works is twofold: the distances are very short and the Novorussians are vastly superior on a tactical level.
But a counter-offensive is en entirely different business. For one thing you need to concentrate your forces at the point you want to achieve a breakthrough. Furthermore, you probably want to fake an attack elsewhere, which also requires more forces. How could the Novorussians concentrate their forces without risking a Ukie breakthrough in their rear?
Also, assuming it is successful, a Novorussian counter-attack would imply a lengthening of the line of contact and an increase in the risk of being enveloped and surrounded. True, the Ukies suffer the disadvantage of having a huge territory in their rear so it is hard for them to predict where to place their reserves, but they have enough motorized and mechanized units to move in fast, and they also have artillery and airpower. So for the Novorussian forces a breakthrough in the depth of the Ukie territory could become very very dangerous.
The two sides have not fought themselves into a standstill yet, but they did fight themselves into a draw in which neither side can do very much. The size of the Resistance-controlled territory has been reduced to a level which is manageable for the Resistance and too tough to crack for the Ukies. Now it becomes a willpower game.
Unless some external factor freezes the conflict “as is”, both sides will continue to move back and forth with minor tactical successes until finally one side reaches its breaking point. At that point, the breaking side will not gradually retreat, but will rapidly collapse. I am at this point unable to guess which side is closer to that breaking point. The Ukies have been butchered in absolutely fantastic numbers by the Resistance, but they keep throwing more and more men, equipment and units into the battle, over and over and over again. I don’t have a way to gauge how long the regime can keep doing that. I know that there is a growing movement of “mothers of servicemen” who are protesting and that especially in the western Ukraine there is a movement to say “we don’t want to die fighting the Russians over the Donbass”. Corpses of dead Ukie serviceman are brought literally by the trainload but the junta does not have the money to pay for the refrigeration, nevermind a decent burial. So families are forced to pay to get their loved one, often they are told to transport the corpse in any way they want, they have to pay for the refrigerations, they have to pay for a new uniform in which to bury the solider, and they have to pay for the funeral. Can you imagine the horror and despair of these families? And the number of thus affected families is going through the roof, especially in the western Ukraine because the junta believes that these western Ukrainians are less likely to desert or switch side.
I think that it is important for us not to solely focus on the horror of the Novorussian civilians being massacred by the Ukie forces, but also on the horror of Ukie forcibly conscripted (up to age 60! And since the begging of the year already 3 partial mobilizations have been ordered and executed by the junta) and sent as cannon-fodder to be killed by the Resistance forces.
If Novorussia can hold another couple of week or so, then the tide will definitely turn against the junta. Right now there is nobody to negotiate with, and nothing to negotiate about. But as Novorussian politician Oleg Tsarev recently said, as soon as the junta forces feel their first major defeat the Europeans will suddenly demand all sorts of negotiations and then, maybe, will it become possible to negotiate something. But until the Novorussian forces convincingly show that they cannot be crushed (and so far they have not shown that), the junta and it US bosses will never negotiate for real. They might pretend, like they did many times, but not in earnest. As long as the USA and the junta can have to hope of winning purely militarily, by crushing the Resistance, they will never negotiate.
The Resistance looks pretty good right now. What they need now a a solid and undeniable success. Until then, the situation will remain frozen.
The Saker
PS: I am under huge time pressure again, so I wrote the above “as is”. I might proofread and correct it tomorrow. But today I really cannot. Sorry.
Now I must go to bed, it is very late here:
Good night!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzRfdFRX1Y8
Dearest Mohamed — I agree that culture and religion form very important “human constructs”. Arguably our most important. To me — religion forms a structure which guides and guards human life. For many — the absence of religion means flailing around in the dark.
Years ago one of my children asked why the prophets were so special. My answer — from my own experience — was that they allowed us to stand on their shoulders — giving us a perspective of God that took mankind thousands of years to develop. Like standing on the shoulders of great mathematicians — so we didn’t have to re-discover the principles of algebra or calculus. Yet, everyone has to PROVE these formulas for themselves. And we are only good through the PRACTISE — through the practical application of these principles in our daily lives. Their “proof” of God is the starting point for our own work. That’s the way religion is supposed to work. At least as I understand it.
Some days are harder than others. Today — I read about Israel bombing huge buildings in Gaza. Some interesting and comments on ZeroHedge. Israel should know — as well as Ziofied-Americans — that the hatred they are engendering will bite them in the azz. Amongst their neighbors and countrymen they are increasingly seen as pariah. This is self-inflicted punishment. Evil destroying itself one Zionist shill at a time. You are awakening many, many good and decent folks — who will not tolerate evil.
Greetings @Saker and @Friends,
We took some time over the past several hours to do a bit ‘o follow up with regards to the CBC reports via The National from yesterdays evening edition. In addition to a video, we also begun compiling a summary draft article.
Please feel free to use and abuse the video and info as you see fit and give some critique, comments, feedback and/or suggestions if ya can spare a few moments. If you are from Canada, please consider sharing this with the politicos and MSM in order to eliminate their usual plausible deniability defense… :)
#Harper’s Minister Alexander, #Ukraine, #RightSector. Ignorance is #cdnpoli Bliss:
https://dumpharper.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/harpers-minister-alexander-ukraine-rightsector-ignorance-is-cdnpoli-bliss/
#Harper’s @MinChrisA, #Ukraine, #RightSector. Ignorance is #cdnpoli Bliss [Video]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNgsIoa0RK8
DumpHarper!
@Nora: If people so worried about the Donbass and unconcerned about Ferguson could only understand that We The People, everywhere, are all in this together, bc we’re all being oppressed by the SOS — then maybe, just maybe, we could start doing something about it.
Dear AGS and Nora,
Nora, just sweet! Yes, Ferguson, Gaza, Donbass, Sanford (Da George Zimmerman) are same and one. In every case the victim is demonized and blamed, which is more hurtful than than original crimes committed by SOS.
AGS, yes we are right about One Tribe (One God), both Jesus and Mohammad empathized that. Different cultures but one tribe (community). I like your reference to “dual-citizens” in the spiritual sense, because our first loyalty is to God then to men-made borders. God and all His Creations are One in Existence.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
@AGS: Years ago one of my children asked why the prophets were so special. My answer — from my own experience — was that they allowed us to stand on their shoulders — giving us a perspective of God that took mankind thousands of years to develop. Like standing on the shoulders of great mathematicians — so we didn’t have to re-discover the principles of algebra or calculus.
Dearest Sister,
Love the analogy. God Bless all His Creations and all His Children, so that we can live in harmony with each other.
God Bless you sister and your entire family,
Mohamed.
Larchmonter,
You’re citing a book from 1951??? Might your extensive library perhaps have anything more recent?
And while I’ll agree with you that the DSM is a committee affair, hence hardly apolitical, the field has advanced just a twee in the past 63 years. In fact, one whole hell of a lot. Is any part of it perfect? Of course not, there are many complaints and problems — it just helps to have some actual facts under one’s belt to make them rather than just spouting off angry, condescending words when you don’t even know what they mean, and then slippy-sliding away with yet other pompous pronouncements.
I would also point out that, without advanced training, you are hardly in any kind of position to make any judgments on what is or is not “the end-all” of psychology, psychiatry or psychoanalysis. You may certainly ignore all three, but you haven’t a shred of the knowledge or experience to discount them on any other basis than your own visceral emotions. Aka, ignorance. And as for your father, I assume he was a wonderful man, but his position back then doesn’t necessarily correlate with either up-to-date knowledge or training; knowledge does advance, you know. That’s the beauty of science. ;~)
And no, dear, this is not a matter of opinion. It’s a matter of fact. I can’t force you to pay more attention to sourcing what you say, I can merely point out the incredible bloopers you make when you don’t. You’re a Christian, right? Try some humility; it would serve you well. So would being able to admit when you’re wrong — that’s the only way any adult learns, actually. And you really stepped in it here. Sorry.
@elsi: And the hummingbird says:
“I WILL DO MY PART”
Dearest Sister,
Most Beautiful! ~:)
Yes, Good Night! It is very late here in my abode too.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Aoife,
You’re even more data-driven than I am! ;~) And yes, it helps to know where a source is coming from, check out all opposing views and collect as much data as possible before coming to even a tentative conclusion. Mr. Nora and I don’t even bother with the MSM anymore, except maybe to check out if they’ve changed their tack on something. But despite Saker’s obvious loyalties, beliefs and positions — which he makes no attempt to hide, I see this blog as having far less bias than any other source I’ve found. YMMV, of course, but why not try asking Saker again, bc it would be nice to know and hopefully he won’t burn any sources in responding.
elsi,
It’s just such a shame that we have to experience suffering directly rather than learn from that imposed by the same oppressors on others. I would like to learn more about Professor Monedero but my Spanish is not up to the task; is there any of his work in translation and, if so, where would you recommend that I start?
Also, the passage you quoted about the hummingbird is so very much like one of my children’s favorite books, only it was a horrible drought and all the corn was dying and one little raindrop I believe said the very same words and then (America, land of happy endings however false) they all pitched in. But not too long after we’d darned near worn the pages thin, one or another local election was won by five votes, and they understood. And Momma was beyond delighted. ;~)
Larchmonter445 said…24 August, 2014 13:45
“BotTak
Your link http://vk.com/video81256624_168420012
was terrific.
It was like Robert Palmer reborn as Russian. At least, his spirit influenced the staging of the ensemble.”
Ah:
Robert Palmer – Addicted To Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE
One of the better musical moments from a rather musically anal (backward) decade. I didn’t make the connection, but, yeah. Definitely. Thanks for pointing that out.
The Russian band, Jane Air, I’ve been a fan of for a number of years. Quite versatile artists.
“He [Crosby] was notorious about money”
And also an extremely warped control freak. I feel sorry for his kids for what he subjected then too.
And thanks for the compliments. I enjoy comments, as well.
Anonymous said…24 August, 2014 15:38
“Unless they changed the song, it was Perry Como singing Magic Moments – the first “hit” composed by Burt Bacharach from the Eisenhower years in the “hegemon” – of an “easy listening” variety.”
It sounded like Bing Crosby to me, but to be honest, I cant tell one of those generic ami pop singers from another from that artistically backward time period. They all sound the same to my prejudiced ears. IE: anally inspired rubbish. ;)
вот так
Anonymous @ 25 August, 2014 02:08
On the merits it doesn’t matter what either of us thinks, but what the target audience thinks.
Underestimating the power and significance of “popular culture” is a strategic error.
When subverting it is always best to be specific.
Crosby was almost used once in South Africa in the 1980s – “White christmas, just like the one we used to know” but given the specifics, the situation didn’t call for further escalation.
Nora,
As far as I know, there is nothing of him translated into English. I guess he is more focused on the Spanish and Latin American public.
The professor speaks German because he ended his studies in political science in Germany, but I do not know if he speaks English. He has advised the Bolivarian Government of Venezuela.
The book is already 9 editions and, as presented in Latin America, I guess they should translate it into English. Perhaps I will suggest it. I think it would be useful. I do not know if there are so many books aimed at ordinary people to bring them back to be interested in politics…..
I follow him for some time, and although I do not always agree with him, I consider him a very interesting and brilliant person. You should see him in action on a political talk, that way to argue…He is very educational also.
I put the link to his own page so that you take a look:
http://www.juancarlosmonedero.org/
@Nora, and Larchmonter445,
Dearest brothers ( I borrow Mohammed style),
May there be peace between us…
In the end it’s about sharing knowledge with one another, and follow the path of truth and light.
On the issue in dispute, I have to say I am no expert, just a self-taught amateur. Very ugly stuff, but very useful, for life, to survive.
Among my sources there is an old but very good book, since declassified, but available online in PDF “The Mask of Sanity” by Hervey M.Cleckley. Dr. Cleckley´s descriptions of the cases studied are so precise in details that I consider an essential book. Strongly Hare line, IMHO.
I also find very good and interesting webpage of Dr. Hugo Marietan (Argentine). It has a course available online on Psychopathy (at least it was before) and then you can do the test.
If you are interested I could put the link and the PDF of the book.
A hug to you both.
elsi,
Professor Mondero’s work really does interest me enough to Yandez/Google Translate an article — just not a book, I don’t think! ;~) Perhaps there’s one that you would recommend and I’ll give it a try?
As far as larchmonter is concerned, uh, actually I do have advanced training and spent many years utilizing it with precisely the population in question. So yeah, I’m not one to pull rank but I really do know what I’m talking about and the facts I presented are just… facts.
Larchmonter appears surprisingly good at presenting and analyzing facts on the ground in the Donbass — though, if you will notice, almost always with the angle that Russia needs to get more involved — but an awful lot of everything else he says is just pure bunkum. I’ve cautioned him repeatedly to source his material better, which doesn’t take education, just the time to do it. But all he does is get more disdainful, cite conveniently-employed family members (which, of course, no one can question) and spout even more, um, glaring inaccuracies. And I kind of get a kick out of it bc, trust me, I’m no Renaissance Woman but this guy’s got almost unerring radar for the particular couple of areas in which I just happen to have training, knowledge and/or experience. It’s amazing, really.
And this time I just couldn’t stop laughing. I don’t know if you know much about American baseball, but between giggles I said to Mr. Nora: “Bottom of the ninth, bases loaded, full house and he lobs a slow ball right into the sweet spot!”