War – for a long time
by Evgeny Norin from the Telegram “Readovka” channel and translated for the Saker Blog
War is too serious a matter to be approached with complacent illusions. Nevertheless, in Russia, it seems, many are still quite seriously convinced that the ongoing operation in Ukraine is just another local conflict that can be quickly ended in the style of the Five-Day War in Georgia, after which everything will be, if not like in 2013 exactly like in 2019.
Will not. The good old world will not be around for a long time.
Russia is at war, at war with a motivated, determined adversary; an adversary who does not have any moral restrictions and is not inclined to compromise. Ukraine has not been pumped up with propaganda, instructors, and now – also with weapons – for eight years, so that it can now easily seize and crumble. At first, the strength of the enemy’s resistance was underestimated, but it’s time to end with complacency. We will have to switch to a war footing now, otherwise the transition will turn into a shock for the whole society, and will happen unexpectedly and later than necessary.
Yes, the very beginning of the war, and its development was completely unexpected for everyone. It seemed to many that now the main thing is to lie low and wait it out. And there the sanctions will be curtailed, Insider will be unblocked, and Spotify will return.
Not curtailed, not unlocked, not returned.
War is for a long time. In February, many were mistaken, believing that a short spectacular operation would come out. Unfortunately, this is not so: the fight will be long, the fight will be difficult. Moreover, the enemy, unlike us, understood this immediately, the enemy’s reality is awake and alive with a bomb on the door, and this is very conducive to understanding some things. And the enemy is now wildly angry and set to war. Yes, as personnel units are knocked out, companies of the defense and mobilized are put on the front – on equipment sent by the good NATO with weapons sent from there. But the enemy has a lot of people. They tirelessly form new brigades to replace the broken ones. Soon a general battle will begin in the Donbass, but the enemy’s troops will not end – more and more brigades are coming from the west. And they just have to be smashed on the battlefield.
For us, all this means that we will have to put aside complacency, gain stamina and continue to act until the diplomats agree to some new reality. And they will agree only after they lose all desire to fight on the other side. Wars don’t usually end with compromise, unfortunately; they end when one of the parties can no longer fight. Yes, it simply means that the enemy’s armed forces will have to be ground down and his cities occupied. Rough, not very humane, but what is the alternative? It was necessary to walk with daisies before the war, and since the end of 2013, the level of violence has only grown; no one wants to bomb Kharkov, but now calls for peace on any terms are calls for Rostov to start receiving bombs instead of Kharkov. If anyone forgot or did not understand, the enemy (and this is by no means only Ukraine) is completely in no mood to bow and go to the corners. The enemy really wants to win the war on the battlefield. And until he is deprived of this illusion, the war will not end.
This also means that Russia will have to make simply titanic efforts to establish the production of everything that we have either never done, or have done before, but stopped. Some of the critical components for the industry can be bought in China, but not all; so localizing production to the maximum is now a super task.
By the way, the attitude towards the people of the nation will also have to be reconsidered. We do not have such crowds of people in general and specialists in particular to scatter them around. Nowhere – not on the battlefield, not in factories, not in the offices of managers. In order to win, Russia will have to abandon the vicious practice of treating people – including rare specialists – as an unfortunate necessity in production processes, in war and in the economy. There aren’t enough of us to think like that. Our forces cannot be called innumerable, and, therefore, we need to use what we have as rationally as possible. Money, people, resources.
This is all very unpleasant to say. All this means the need for exertion of strength, blood and sweat. But war is not a place where you can throw your cards on the table and go home, because now they will come home in our footsteps. Whether it was possible to avoid this war, what is its historical context – all this is interesting.
Will.
For historians after the war. Now, of course, no one interferes with discussing such things, it can be very entertaining, but during the operation, discussing the everyday habits of both the operated and the surgeon is the last thing that will bring real benefits. What matters now are those issues that will allow our country to get out of the current situation with victory and a minimum of losses. Consolidation of society, restructuring of industry, strengthening of the army. Helping others in the broadest sense. In the end, this war is a great chance for each of us personally to become better. We did not choose to live in historical times, history overtook us by itself – and it is better to go through it with dignity.
The Russian state, Russian society, the propaganda machine – everything seems to be running out of the last days of the holidays. The problem is that in reality we no longer have holidays, we already have an exam. The most difficult and terrible, on the country’s ability to cope with the difficulties and troubles of war. No one is to blame for being in the war. But the war has begun, and we need to be ready for it, to be united like never before, we need to get rid of illusions and stop playing spillikins.
This war is for a long time.
We will win.
Just a question. Anybody knows why we see the old Soviet flag used in Ukraina?
@ Sol
That’s the victorious CCCP flag that flew over the nazi German Reichstag after Germany’s defeat in WW2. That flag, along with the Russian flag, follows the Russian army everywhere it goes to fight for the defense of Russia.
Lone Wolf
Hello, Here is explained oficially:
https://en.topwar.ru/195122-peskov-pojasnil-smysl-ispolzovanija-rossijskimi-voennymi-krasnogo-znameni-v-specoperacii-na-ukraine.html
Thanks guys, of course a symbol of the victory over Nazism (Khazar mafia)
We did not choose to live in historical times, history overtook us by itself – and it is better to go through it with dignity.
In fact, I would have chosen to be alive at this time if I had had the choice.
From a philosophical point of view, I believe that this is a wonderful time to be alive because of its importance for humanity. We are all historical beings. It is now that we have the chance to remove from power those malignant forces that have made peoples around the world suffer over time, namely the belief in exceptionalism and ‘manifest destiny’, which have not been only dominant in the US but have with different names been the belief of generations of elites in control of people in many places around the world. Additionally, ignorance will be also wiped out at this time as there will be opportunity for knowledge of the real truth along the way (schools and universities won’t be missed). This is a war against the real enemies of humanity, and all of us will have the opportunity to make a contribution for we have a new world to win.
If Russia now needs to move the same amount of oil not to Europe but China, the first logistical problem it faces is that it can’t load Urals onto VLCCs in Primorsk or Ust Luga because those ports aren’t deep enough to dock VLCCs. Russia will first have to sail Aframax vessels to a port for STS crude transfer (ship -to -ship crude transfer) onto VLCCs according Zoltan Pozsar.
The STS transfer takes weeks, and after the transfer is done, the VLCC will sail two months east, discharge, and go back to the Baltics, which is another two months.
“Conservatively, Russian crude traveled about a week or two before it fueled economic activity (the time it took to sail smaller Aframax carriers from Primorsk to Hamburg) and now will have to travel at least four months before it fuels economic activity,” Credit Suisse’s Pozsar notes.
“Worse, it’s not just the time to market that’s getting worse, but we also end up with a ship shortage and a corresponding surge in shipping freight rates,” he added.
According to OPEC’s analysis in its latest Monthly Oil Market Report published this week, “Tanker markets are being broadly impacted by uncertainties related to the conflict in Eastern Europe, which is expected to affect trade patterns.”
Yes Russia is at war. It’s a Civil War similar to that in 1918-1921. During this war, conditions will not be good,but less bad than in the other war . And once the war is over Russia will see relations with the West almost non-existent,as it was at the end of the other war. But unlike during that war the damage in most of the Russian world will not be extensive. So it will be much easier to repair. And there are massive areas of the world that will still have good relations with Russia.
The biggest problems will be internal. Russians will have to decide the path they will follow. Are they going to continue to allow oligarchs and other 5th column elements to have the influence they do today.Or will they make the needed reforms to move to a more state capitalist system. Much closer to the meritocratic system we see in China. Make no mistake its that question that will determine Russia’s future,and place in the world.
But in the mean time the war continues and must be won. Reports that officials in the Russian government are saying they won’t change the Ukrainian regime in power only undermine the victory in the war. Today in the liberated areas thousands of people have come out to support Russia. Had Russia proclaimed that they intended to replace the regime in power,there would have been hundreds of thousands openly supporting Russia by now. But thinking that after the war is over the same murderous regime that is committing Bucha’s is still going to be in power over them,prevents people from putting their lives and their families lives on the line for supporting Russia. And if Russia deserts those thousands that have sided with them.and leaves them to the mercy of the Zelensky regime. Then Russia will have been unworthy of that support.
Well I think that the great leaders after WW2 were Stalin and Mao Zedong! Stalin defeated Hitler and the Communist Chinese punished Japan.
Mao Zedong and communism in China lifted nearly 800 million people out of poverty.
Stalin and the USSR smashed the Fascist NAZI’s and it occupied and brought Communism to Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania! And the people in these countries rejoiced and welcomed their Communist Comrades as liberators.
Yes the USA provided the USSR with many supplies, but only to save its self; The Battle of the Atlantic was very important as the US supplied the USSR with 500,000 troop trucks, 35,000 Tanks (Not as good as the T34 but any tank is better than no tank); 1,000,000 field telephones as communication was important! 35,000 aircraft and heaps of food clothing and ammunition)
Why … self interest
When D Day happened Germany had 196 Divisions facing the Soviet Union (Communists USSR) and only 65 facing the West!
Poland Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania! And the people in these countries rejoiced and welcomed their Communist Comrades as liberators! Lest we forget!
It is not about democracy, democracy is a myth, it is about empire…. we just aren’t allowed to call it empire anymore!