I listened to the full Russian Security Council meeting, then to Putin’s address to the nation, then the signing of the the treaties on cooperation and mutual support.
The first thing which I want to point out is that this was a very carefully orchestrated event, and I don’t just mean today’s live meetings and signing. For those of us who follow Russian politics very closely there can be no doubts that all this was prepared long BEFORE the Russian ultimatum to the West.
This is “the plan” which Putin once openly referred to.
Let me make this clear: this recognition should NOT, repeat, NOT, be seen in isolation. It is just ONE PHASE in a PROCESS which began at least a year ago, or more, and there is much more to come.
Next, that must be repeated again, this is NOT about the LDNR, the Donbass or even the Ukraine, this is about a new security architecture on Europe and, therefore, on our entire planet.
This means that Russia expected exactly the reaction she eventually got (western politicians are fantastically predictable, being both ignorant, stupid and arrogant) and that gave her a legal basis to take the current action (call it R2P, or moral duty, or genocide prevention or whatever else you wish).
I want to use this opportunity to express my deepest gratitude to President Biden and Chancellor Scholz who both played their role to perfection, especially Scholz with his “laughable genocide talk” comment. More generally, a lot of the credit for what just happened today goes to the leaders of the Empire who played their hand exactly as the Kremlin hoped they would.
Next, I immediately want to mention sanctions. Let it be clearly told: whatever sanctions the West now agrees upon will be what they would have done in any case. I repeat: today’s recognition of the LDNR will have exactly ZERO influence on the West’s maniacal determination to destroy Russia and her people. In other words, the coming sanctions were unavoidable. That means that Russia “lost” exactly *nothing* through that move. In fact, both during the RSC meeting and his speech, Putin hinted that, if anything, western sanctions have been mostly beneficial to the Russian economy (especially the real economy, not just the value of Russian stocks or the Ruble).
Sanctions is a topic which only matters to western politicians (and their 5th and 6th column in Russia). Russians 1) remember that during her history both Russia and the USSR were more or less always under some kind of sanctions anyway and 2) that the goal of the West is not to reach an equilibrium with Russia, but to subjugate and destroy her (Putin himself said so many years ago).
In this context, the endless focus on sanctions (from hell or otherwise) is not only immoral, it is plain stupid.
Next, I want to mention four specific threats made by Putin today (note, since the PR folks at the Kremlin are still working at their usual snail’s pace, I will have to make them by memory, please keep that in mind):
- Those responsible for the massacre in Odessa will be punished by Russia.
- Putin is demanding an immediate cessation of the shelling and shooting along the LOC.
- Russia will physically prevent the Ukraine from US/NATO deploying offensive weapons to threaten Russia.
- Russia will show Banderastan how to organize a *real* “decommunization” (after indicating that the Ukraine was created by the CPSU).
Again, I will repeat here what I wrote above: this recognition should NOT, repeat, NOT, be seen in isolation. It is just ONE PHASE in a PROCESS which began at least a year ago, or more, and there is much more to come.
Unless the Ukies get it – and they probably won’t – I fully expect Russia to openly extend here “military umbrella” over the LDNR. That does not mean that she will have to move troops in, though that now is also a possibility, but that any future Ukie ground operation will be countered by the full might of the Russian military. Officially this time. The Ukros along the LOC have heard it from Putin’s own mouth: we got a crosshairs on each one of you. While I wouldn’t put *anything* beyond the Ukros, I believe that today’s clear threat will have a strong deterrent effect, whether the Ukies admit it (not gonna happen) or not.
After listening to it all, I still have a few questions to which I did not get a reply yet:
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Administrative borders of the DNR vs the LOC
In what exact borders does Russia recognize the LNR and DNR? Along the LOC or along their original administrative borders? (see map). I strongly suspect that for a while Russia will keep a flou artistique on this topic, but what Putin meant was a recognition of the LDNR in their original administrative borders. If I am correct, this ALSO means that Russia will not liberate the rest of Banderastan, which I also fully approve of: the Ukrainians need to liberate themselves for once, enough of that constant waiting for the Moskals to liberate them from their “western friends”!
- Putin mentioned the immense sums of money Russia has poured into the Ukraine even after it turned into Banderastan. Will Russia *finally* impose an economic embargo on that Nazi state?
- The DNR/LNR having just been recognized, they are not members of the CSTO. Not only that, but I very much doubt that all the members of the CSTO will recognize the LDNR anytime soon. So if there is the need to launch a “coercion to peace” operation, will Russia act unilaterally, maybe with Belarus, or will she try to get some kind of joint operation with other countries? This just in: the Russian MoD has announced that it received the order to provide/ensure the safety/security of the LDNR! That means a peace enforcement (coercion to peace) has been ordered!
Some will be tempted to focus on what the western politicians will say or do next. I sure have no idea which they might or might not do next, but I would advise them to be extremely careful, because the mood in Russia is determined. If anybody still believes that Putin is bluffing, then wish them good luck because the best they can hope for is a quick, painless, death.
For the US Americans everything is measured in Dollars. For Europeans, everything is measured by Euros. During WWII Russia lost 27 million of her own people, two thirds of them civilians, as for the Chinese, they lost a whopping 35 million. These are countries and nations which will not be broken, or purchased, by Dollars or Euros.
Then there is this: if the West slaps “sanctions from hell” on Russia, what will the leaders of the West do the day AFTER they impose such sanctions? The truth that the West is already “out-sanctioned”. But let’s assume that there will be even more sanctions. From hell, no less. Then what?
Nothing, of course.
Russia has already long turned away from the West, not only culturally but also economically (Mishustin confirmed that today). If the EU wants to commit economic seppuku – that’s fine by Russia. The Kremlin is quite willing to turn up the pain dial, but if western leaders want to increase the pain dial on each other (the US dialing up economic pain for the EU), by all means, Russia won’t object.
As always, I suggest that we not jump to any further conclusions too quickly: let’s wait for the full, official transcripts, then the statements of key politicians (who will be tasked with implementing/interpreting these statements). In this situation, words matter (at least those of Russian officials).
I will conclude by a warning: I fully expect the CIA/MI6 agents in Russia (5th column: liberals; 6th column: emo-Marxists and pseudo-patriots) to unleash a MAJOR PSYOP offensive against Putin personally and this decision. Arguments will include anything and everything in between “not enough” and “too much” including the inevitable “too little too late”. If there is one thing you need to know about both the 5th and 6th columns in Russia is that for them any success by Putin (or even while Putin is in power) is categorically unacceptable and must be denied at all costs. So while they claim to hate each other, they really hate Putin much more. In fact, they hate Putin much, much more than they love Russia. I strongly urge all the readers to always think cui bono when you will hear their endless defeatist wailing!
Okay, I will end it here: let’s see what happens next.
Andrei
Dont forget to liberate Slavljansk, Mariopol, dont forget Odessa!
Eta radost sa slizami na glazah..
Viva Doneck! Na zapad!
Lets drink one for mother Russia!
We will raise Doneck flag today,here in east Ljubljana.
Lets remember Givi, Motorola all fallen comrades!
Mozgovvoy, Zakharshenko too.
Dear Saker
The articles here are almost always brilliant.
I was thinking about your 6th column theory, which I really like. In Islam we have a special term ‘Munafiq’, often mentioned in the Blessed Quran, which means more or less ‘Hypocrite’. The real meaning goes beyond and can also mean “hypocrisy to a degree which destroys the community”. So your suggestion to ask ‘who benefits’ when 6th column people speak is a good one to wake people up, it is surely not the Russian people, but it is exactly a tool to inherently divide (‘low’ and ‘high’ level people) the community/country.
The real cure for 6th column people is spirituality, I mean people should always hold a posture which puts the community forward as a whole, not only that but also keep firmly away from jumping on the boat of division.
I pray that 6th column people will be recognized – by Russian people and abroad – as what they are.
Mohamed
About LDNR borders: they should be those of Luhansk & Donetsk oblasts.
May be phone calls to Ukranians HQ in Donbass will be enough to persuade them to withdraw to these lines?
Unless they do it themselves…
What will it follow? –
Nato in Lviv? – Uprising in Odessa and Karkhow?
– Start of arrests, flight of ukro to Lviv.
– Extension of the Russian peacekeeping operation in Kiev which quickly gives way to a UN force = neutralization of central Ukraine.
– Proces of the ukies. This will keep the empire busy for a while.
– Military-technical measures in Syria, Yemen, Libya, South America, collapse of the French presence in Africa, end of the CFA franc.
– Cascading revelation about 9/11 and the crimes of the globalists.
– Taiwan joins China peacefully.
– Dedollarization implies the collapse of the US army for lack of funding.
– Progressive purging of the UN of globalist rot. The ICC launches procedures for all non prescribed war crimes.
– Putin’s last intervention at the UN earned him a standing ovation. Russia is to peace what Nazism is to war.
Thank you….
have listened to some but not all so still have work to do… before its banned on your tube, Google etc etc …and ”unavaible”
The direct and indirect effects of the sanctions imposed by the US will be devastating, to cite but two:
no American investments in Donbas and a**es freezing in Germany next winter.
Alexander Mercoursis stated in a recent video that he has heard reports that Ukraine is effectively moving its capitol from Kiev to Lviv, with not only officials but also governmental departments moving there.
In effect, this might portend the creation of a rump Ukraine with a capitol in Lviv.
With the formal secession of the Donbass republics, would this enable Ukraine to apply for NATO membership and allow such things as the stationing of American missiles (including eventually US hypersonic missiles) in this rump Ukraine that can threaten Russia?
Even worse, Ukraine has suggested that it will reject the Budapest Memorandum and look to develop nuclear weapons.
Putin is sitting in his mansion pondering the fact that he is no Hitler.
While a bit closer to the mark (I disagree that putin will “protect” anyone inside the ukraine (the “new poland”), this little take on the matter is like 99% of them – ignores the important stuff, even the nordstream economic take that unz is pushing is off the mark but it is a small facet.
For some level headed analysis read kaminski. Ukraine is Poland just before WW2- same tribal perps, just russians instead of ethnic germans this time.
At the same time senile U.S. president Joe Biden has been warning the world through corrupt Western press reports that Russia is preparing to invade Ukraine, the U.S.-backed Ukraine government itself, augmented by squads of Western terrorist mercenaries, has been bombing the breakaway provinces of Donetsk and Luhantz and forcing thousands of Russian-speaking residents to flee their homes.
A steady stream of Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine’s embattled eastern provinces have hastily evacuated their homes as Ukraine artillery continues to batter with terror rockets the region’s urban areas whose occupants try to escape with at least their lives across the border into Russia where they are warmly welcomed as kindred refugees.
This is clearly the fulfillment of Russia’s greatest fear ever since American neocons triggered the 2014 Maidan revolution that brought CIA control to the Ukrainian capital in Kiev. Ever since then, the warmongering NATO countries have put pressure on Russia, whose capital Moscow lies only 300 miles northea……
https://northerntruthseekersblog.wordpress.com/
The first of Sakers question in the article got answered (partially?): Russia will recognize “Within the borders that DPR and LPR leadership implements its power authority and jurisdiction,”
https://tass.com/politics/1408295
But then it might beg another question in relation to the date…right now or when the two republics were proclaimed.
There is no question – at the time of recognition of independence by the republics after the national referendum in 2014 before the Minsk agreement.
@Andrew
Yes, exactly that has now been confirmed by Putin himself. LOC has to move and that will be interesting to follow.
Thank you
@ Saker,
You say: …this is about a new security architecture on Europe and, therefore, on our entire planet.
I ask: what about coups d’etat, infiltrations to corrupt politicians, and other acts of sabotage against weaker countries? Is there any hope that this will end SOON?
Question for the Saker:
Putin says that he will punish those responsible for Odessa.
Am I wrong to assume that this would entail some sort of physical operation in that general area to apprehend or neutralize these individuals?
If my assumption is right, then this would at the very least be a quite large special forces operation, if not backed up by the regular army/navy/air force as well.
I know you have written many times that Russia has no interest to occupy the rest of Banderstan (and shouldn’t, let them sort themselves out) but would it be outlandish to think that IF there is a push to Odessa for a temporary occupation that Russia would (if the opportunity arises) also take out as much as possible of the Ukrainian armed forces “on their way there” so to speak?
Perhaps even organize a little re-run of Operation 333?
Putin: “We (LDNR) recognized them, which means we recognized all their main documents, including the Constitution.
And the Constitution spells out the borders within the Donetsk and Lugansk borders at the time when they were part of Ukraine (UkrSSR).”
Parliamentary newspaper https://www.pnp.ru/politics/putin-utochnil-granicy-priznaniya-dnr-i-lnr.html
“For those of us who follow Russian politics very closely there can be no doubts that all this was prepared long BEFORE the Russian ultimatum to the West.”
I can’t see it that way. Firstly, Putin and Lovrov are not like Oscar-winning actors. Their expressed lingering hopes and frustrations after the two proposals were like sidestepped, were sincere and genuine – or they “belong in Hollywood.” I doubt that they even though about it prior to noticing that none of their three major proposals was accepted. (Shoot, the West didn’t think about it not even after the Duma’s recent vote about it. They were caught completely by surprise, like they were by the two proposals, and at some point they have to review their surprises.) Secondly, it’s hard to visualize this having been prepared prior to the recent Normandy (format) meetings regarding the Minsk agreements.
RT has reported that Putin recognises the Donesk and Lugansk borders as in the Ukrainian boundaries in answer to your question Saker, which makes things a lot more interesting.
Let us remember that NATO bombed Serbia into the Stone Age in order to take its historic province of Kosovo away and give it to Albania. And, I might add violated the UN Charter in doing so !!!!!! Yes, It was a war crime!
So, I don’t want to hear about Russia violating International Law.
Russia is just going to do their own “Kosovo” in Ukraine, but with less violence, to protect fellow Russians there. It will be limited just to the Russian speaking areas in the East.
Auch Deutschlands ist und war mit der große Verlierer im 2.Weltkrieg, Hitler war der Mann der BIZ, heute Davos als Ableger der City of London, das deutsche Volk wurde wirksam mir Hilfe der Propaganda Gehirn gewaschen, damit das funktioniert hat man es in Armut und Schuldzuweisung zurückgelassen, von wegen alleinige Kriegsschuld am WK 1., danach hat man es ausgeplündert und gezwungen 7000 Tonnen Gold an die Angelsachsen und Zionisten zu zahlen, wegen eines Krieges den dieselben angezettelt haben, Lord Milner Kindergarden ,Cecil Rhodes und der engl.König. Nur durch den 1.Weltkrieg war der 2.möglich, ein stolzes, friedliches Volk, das gerade mal knapp 50 jähre ihr eigenes Vaterland hatten und immer mit den Russen kulturell verbunden war, Wolgadeutsche, Katharina die Große, Deutsche im Dienst des Zaren, krieg gegen Napoleon etc. Die 3 Länder, die für die Eurasiche Integration unverzichtbar sind, sind die Länder mit den meisten Toten und zerstörten Industrieanlagen und Infrastruktur, China-Rußland und Deutschland. Fällt Euch da was auf ? Mein Opa kam aus dem Krieg nicht zurück, meine Oma wurde vergewaltigt, wie fast alle deutschen Frauen, egal von wem ! 400000 verbrannte Menschen in 3 Tagen in Dresden 1945, egal, waren scheiß Deutsche, wenn juckt das schon. mich ! 13 Millionen Tote Deutsche nach dem Krieg, wie geht das wenn alle so gut zu uns waren, nach der Kapitulation ?
Ich mag die Russen, sie sind mir viel näher und artverwandter als irgendwelche englischen Snobs und amerikanischen Massenmörder, ich denke die Engländer haben Milliarden Menschen getötet und verhungern lassen, dafür werden Sie bezahlen, wenn ich Jünger wäre, würde ich als Deutscher für Russland,Syrien und allen unterdrückten Völkern kämpfen, es ist jetzt die Zeit wo sich ein jeder entscheiden muß, weggucken gilt als mitmachen, nieder mit dem Bösen. Lang lebe die Wahrheit, die niemand subjektiv bewerten darf. Danke Andrei
ANDREI – AN ELEGANT workmanlike piece of wordflow describing the tactics
employed by rossiya in executing this brilliant, strategic avoidance of U.S. ALLIED
strive to destroy one nation at the expense of . destruction of another. Immorality evilness
loses another Syria-Afghanistan maneuver. what is this madness dispensed by
the WhiteHouse DeepState arseholes. WHY? CUI BONO?