Informations have come to light that British Pilots have permission to shoot down Russian aircraft.
“The first thing a British pilot will do is to try to avoid a situation where an air-to-air attack is likely to occur — you avoid an area if there is Russian activity,” an unidentified source from the UK’s Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ) told the Sunday Times. “But if a pilot is fired on or believes he is about to be fired on, he can defend himself. We now have a situation where a single pilot, irrespective of nationality, can have a strategic impact on future events.”
What this means is one man can in the heat of the moment start the next global war. One man. Whilst this has always been possible the fact that this order has, according to the article dated 11 October 2016, been given is a rather dangerous departure from the de facto RoE over Syria if this article is true. In essence the RoE (Rules of Engagement) was that no one threatens no one and the two opposing sides in this Syrian debacle studiously stayed away from each other to the point that missions were scrubbed when it became apparent that airframes from ‘the other side’ were in the area or in transit to the area.
While one can not fathom who in their right mind would give such an order in a clearly tense and intense area of conflict it is my opinion that UK would never dream of issuing such an order without clear and explicit directives from either DC or Langley.
As an aside if hostilities begin to heat up over Syria you can rest assured that Ukraine will attack. It is common knowledge that every semi warm body and piece of equipment that may or may not move on it’s own is now in position in the Ukraine lines, Minsk be damned. If it comes to another all out fight as Debaltysevo last year there will be no stand down this time to allow the golden pheasants to leave, the cauldrons will be reduced with extreme prejudice.
I do not know if this time the North Wind will be needed as in the late summer cauldrons of ’14, Novorossiya seems to have a very well trained and equipped army of roughly three heavy divisions that can be almost instantly expanded to five. Ukraine does not stand a snowball’s chance in hell of victory. If it comes to this there may well be another victory parade in Donetsk and this time there will be a lot of foreigners marching amongst the prisoners.
Auslander
Author, Never The Last One https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGCY8KK
date on IBT article says October 2015 ??
Auslander probably mean this recent article:
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/10/12/488785/UK-attack-Russia-Syria-Mitchell
That article is not the same. Simply an MP looking for 5 mins of fame & possibly WWIII.
Yes this article is a year old, some of the comments under the article are a year old.
Hopefully if it comes to that. This time the opportunity will not be lost to liberate all Donbass,at the minimum.All Novorossia at the middle.And all Ukraine at the maximum.With war coming soon,its not smart to allow a huge and viscous “Trojan Horse” to exist on your most sensitive border.At the least,a buffer of Novorossia (at max) would help stall an attack. As well as secure all the north Black Sea coast from being used by NATO.
NAF cant attack UAF, the UAF of today is not the UAF of 2014 which wouldl run as soon as they saw an NAF soldier, that was shown during the winter counter-offensive when NAF was stopped everywhere by UAF execpt Debaltysevo, and even the battle of Debaltysevo was almost lost, as NAF threw wave after wave of untrained men into UAF fire. Many might not have heard it, but the Debaltysevo was a slaughter, were NAF just sent wave after wave of motivated troops without training and without artillery support into defensive lines of UAF.
I believe NAF can only win if UAF first attacks and fails, and then NAF goes on a counter-offensive. But even then it is not certain, UAF has sooo many troops now, and NATO has been training them and preparing them for two years, and while UAF is awful at offense, any man will stand his ground if shoot back if someone is shooting at him, after all these are Europeans fighting not arabs.
So even if UAF was defeated there would be soo many UAF soldiers for NAF to cut-thru on their counter-offensive and UAF is prepared for a NAF counter-offensive now, it has many layers of defence, after a failed offensive the retreating UAF soldiers would just flee back to their first line of defence, and then second and then third, and all the while NAF would be forced to run over these fortifications and defensive positions.
But even if NAF did go on the offensive and did smash UAF like in 2014, Russia could not allow them to expand their territory, because today – Russia pays for all the people in Donbass and its army, to civilian medicines, food, pensions, most of it comes from the Russian budget(not officially of course), Since Ukraine put a blockade against the civilians of donbass and stolen their pensions, without Russian paying for it all, the people under NAF would die of starvation.
So if NAF was successful, every single person that NAF liberated would be another mouth Russia would need to pay for, imagine if NAF captured Mariupol, half a million people in there that Russia would suddenly need to pay for.
So Russia could not allow NAF to expand, even if NAF could and Russia wanted to.
I know I will be flamed ruthlessly now, but this is how I believe it is.
Your comment is very mistaken. It is Putin’s policy to give the people of Novorussia exactly enough support to maintain a status quo, but not one iota more. Russia is vastly more powerful than any West force imaginable in Ukraine, let alone the force their today. If the puppet leaders of Ukraine are moronic enough to contemplate sucide, Russia will happily serve them this dish- but Novorussia will not be allowed to expand in any significant way despite their ‘victory’- this is Putin’s will.
Russia forces unofficially operated in Novorussia during each of the last significant flare-ups. Next time will be just the same.
The horrible sad thing is that Putin exploits the ‘lesser’ people of Novorussia by letting them form a Human buffer (see the Roman Empire for exactly the same tactic)- a buffer that suffers daily shelling and mass murder of its ordinary citizens, so long as the slaughter is manageable by the Kremlin’s propagandists (yes. they have them just like the West).
The brave fighting forces of Novorussia know they will die defending their homeland, but also know they will never be allowed a permanent peace, since Russia has made it clear it will not exert its might to this end.
The geo-political problem is that Russia itself is massive- far more massive as a landmass than almost any person understands. It simply doesn’t need more land (or even resources, since the Russia landmass is insanely rich in resources). So Russia doesn’t play the game according to rules most of you have been trained to think apply. Novorussia is useful as a buffer, and nothing else (unlike Crimea with its essential port). As I said, cynical empires have treated the people of buffer zones in the most rotten ways- usually with the excuse that if the people there don’t like it, they can always migrate to the empire proper.
Syria is different. Things have happened there almost by accident- yet we are seeing a different sort of old school empire play in motion- something the thinkers of the 18th and 19th century would have recognised in a second. Russia is making its empire ‘reputation’ in this very limited region of warfare, while creeping to the real regional powers of Israel and Saudi Arabia- both of whom are officially ‘anti-Russia’ in Syria. The contradiction will puzzle history illiterates, but not educated people.
The war in Syria also allows Russia to test its weapon systems and tactics, and promote much of its personnel to ‘veteran’ status- and thus is ‘cheap’ at twice the cost.
But Russia makes one fundamental, deadly mistake. The West is in the hands of literal Demons- and they work toward the goal of ending all Human life on the planet. Putin cannot either conceive nor understand this- and thus assumes the West’s ‘bark’ signifies nothing to worry about. The Demons are not allowed to proceed without the consensus of the majority of the sheeple (people must willingly accept their ‘suicide’) which is why so many hundreds of billions of dollars are spent building a 1984 style regime across as much of the planet as possible. Luckily for the Human Race, this propaganda effort has only been partially successful so far- and too many of us are ‘awake’ for the Demons to be allowed to trigger their final nuclear holocaust.
However, the younger generations have been subject to a a level of brainwashing in their schools and upbringing that never existed before- and the percentage of ‘awake’ people in younger age groups is tiny and falling. This is how the Demons intend to claim their final victory.
If Putin would only step up, disown Israel and Saudi Arabia, the world would be saved for at least another Century. But notice how many people make spurious arguments claiming that Putin must never do this?
LOL, NATO trained UAF so that makes them something special?
With no air cover, their NATO training is worthless.
For any toy NATO gave to UAF, Russia gave to NAF something superior. Russia can trust some people in NAF with superior technology. NATO can’t trust anyone in UAF with anything.
I can only imagine that Russia doesn’t need to aim billion dollar satellites to monitor UAF positions. There are plenty of poor traitors and cheap spies for that.
You are sadly mistaken about NAF abilities and tactics. Yes, there were mistakes made in Debaltsyevo just as there were mistakes in the ’14 summer cauldrons and just as there have been mistakes in the war of attrition since Debaltsyevo. However, NAF never threw in ‘waves of untrained soldiers’, for starters they don’t have the manpower to do that nor were they foolish enough to do that. Debalsyevo was won with grueling man to man combat with loses on both sides but significantly more on the Ukraine side. The debacle occurred when NAF cut off Debaltsyevo with its huge logistic supply bases. That little city was to be the base and hinge for a Uke assault to cut off Donetsk from south and east and capture the city.
When Merkel and Golland showed up in Moscow begging for a cease fire NAF did generally stop offensive operations but Debaltsyevo was singularly left out of any mention in the documents. When the Ukes refused to stand down and withdraw they were assisted in this task. The deal was the Ukrainian soldiers would be allowed to leave carrying their personal weapon and one rucksack, transported in trucks, everything else stayed. The first two small groups of Ukrainian troops followed the deal, several others following behind them did not, trying to withdraw with all their equipment and heavy weapons. That is what precipitated the elimination of most of the UAF based in Debaltsyevo and the surrounding area. It will never be known how many losses the Ukes suffered but the fields and glens between Debaltsyevo will be and are yielding remains to this day. Interestingly as the Ukes retreated and tried to scatter in the face of NAF attacks the locals who had put up with Uke occupation for almost a year took their revenge using weapons taken from Uke dead.
You also do not understand the layout and reality of the ‘lines’ stretching from the coast of the Azov to the Russian border east of Lughansk. Neither side has anywhere near enough troops to fully man the lines, there are considerable areas that have virtually no one but patrols.
Auslander
Thursday, October 13, 2016 – 12:47
The attempt to break through the DPR positions by AFU near the villages of Kominternovo and Leninskoye resulted in death of 15 foreign mercenaries, another 25 Kiev’s gunmen got wounded, reported the Vice-Commander of the DPR operative command Eduard Basurin.
“The command of the so-called anti-terrorist operation has made a crazy attempt to break through our defense line in the area near the settlements of Kominternovo and Leninskoye. As a result of the DPR units’ battle confidence, the enemy was forced to give up their hopeless plans, having suffered losses – more than 15 mercenaries were killed and 25 got wounded”, Basurin said.
Two DPR servicemen were killed in the battle, five defenders got wounded. Each enemy’s group consisting of 30 mercenaries tried to bypass the DPR positions twice from different directions. The enemy was covered with mortar fire.
Due to extremely poor training of the AFU units there were used mercenaries from Poland and Georgia.
DONi News Agency
JJ, why don’t you simply put the link up instead of flooding this thread with massive amounts of type some of which is a bit off topic.
Auslander
“What this means is one man can in the heat of the moment start the next global war”.
The next, and LAST global war.
My reaction to this news is that the British authorities had better keep their aircraft out of Syrian air space. Because if they go in, the Russians may see fit to shoot them down – as they are entirely entitled to do. And then the RAF guys may shoot back (in the unlikely case they are still alive)…
I have the highest respect for the people of the RAF and Fleet Air Arm. But I cannot support them in the commission of illegal and immoral acts. In this case the Russians and the Syrians are wholly in the right.
Auslander is so very right on without fail – telling the truth and shooting straight. Thank you Sir, God bless you.
This is an old article from October 12, 2015 ? Here:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/raf-given-green-light-shoot-down-hostile-russian-jets-syria-1523488
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/469414/RAF-Tornados-missile-Putin-Syria-UK-tensions-strikes-Islamic-State
Is the following true? If yes, what to make of it? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833941/Russia-orders-officials-fly-home-relatives-living-abroad-tensions-mount-prospect-global-war.html#ixzz4Ms3uoqWn
Main soruce here: https://www.znak.com/2016-10-11/rossiyskim_chinovnikam_i_deputatam_rekomendovano_vernut_detey_i_roditeley_na_rodinu
“One reason to be cheerful is that any plan to attack Russia is bound to become mired in bureaucracy. Battle plans are developed by mid-rank people within the US military establishment, approved and forwarded up the chain of command by higher-rank people and finally signed off on by the Pentagon’s top brass and their civilian political accomplices. The top brass and the politicians may be delusional, megalomaniacal and inadvertently suicidal, but the mid-rank people who develop the battle plans are rarely suicidal.”
https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/10/oopsa-world-war.html#more
Relax with this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdeCxJmcAo
Regards,
Carmel by the Sea
That Orlov thinks the Pentagon makes the big military decisions needs
reconsideration. The generals didn’t decide to bomb Hiroshima and
Nagasaki, nor order Patton to retreat 100 miles from Berlin so the Russians
could capture the city, nor set up death camps to murder over a million
German POWs after WWII. Those were NWO decisions.
The orders to send French and English soldiers over-the-top to be slaughtered
by German machine guns in WWI originated, not with Generals, but in Brussels.
The Carnegie Foundation minutes not only recorded a 1909 meeting planning how
to get Americas involved in a war, the archive contained a copy of a telegram to
President Woodrow Wilson instructing him not to end the war too quickly.
The Carnegie telegram to President Wilson is heavy reading for me. My uncle
was killed in the Argonne Forest a month before the Armistice was signed.
“nor order Patton to retreat 100 miles from Berlin so the Russians
could capture the city,”
That is the fairy tale pindo’s tell their children. I mean how could stupid incompetent commie russkies beat the super duper exceptional exceptionals to Berlin?
“The orders to send French and English soldiers over-the-top to be slaughtered
by German machine guns in WWI originated, not with Generals, but in Brussels.”
No, it was the generals. They were that unimaginative and backward. Brussels was just the capital of a small, inconsequential European nation then, not the seat of the eu.
“The Carnegie Foundation minutes not only recorded a 1909 meeting planning how to get Americas involved in a war, the archive contained a copy of a telegram to President Woodrow Wilson instructing him not to end the war too quickly.”
Wilson became president in 1913.
There is now a moment of silence, behind the veils everything is brewing. Putin just had a phone-talk with Angela Merkel, the Normandie-format will not meet in the coming weeks, Hollande has made some hideous remarks against Putin vis-a vis Syria days before his planned visit to France. After that, Putin has refused to go in Paris. The french MSM has said ” Putin has asked to postpone the visit” . Russia is to blame every day (with new videos and images on MSM media) on savage bombings on Eastern Aleppo. Even the Pope has trumpeted his voice (as no surprise there). The conclusion is : they are all One against Russia. What kind of deal or peace talks want they to have ? If the war will break out in Donbass, this time will be more ferocious than ever, the West is prepared for the big game of propaganda against the “invading Russian forces” in the “democratic Ukraine”. The white house will sign the law of shipments of lethal weapons to Ukraine, with a big majority in both houses. Ukraine will instate the state of war and call for general mobilization. Most probably the Eu will decree some kind of emergency stage, all over the EU. New American troops will be deployed to Europe, mostly to Germany to keep the pressure on the Germans as being the core of EU. OK, I won’t go further in eventualities which seems by the way logical. With so many insane leaders, everything is possible. Ukraine’s soil will be fertilized again.
As Russia and/or the NAF liberates Ukraine a short message needs to be sent to NATO countries. If we find you interfering “at all” against us,the missiles will fly. And make sure they are set on targets with a hair-trigger.If the West will not accept negotiated settlements. Then as in most of History,they must be forced to accept peace.Humans know no other way. Thousands,upon thousands of years of our time on this planet,show that to be undeniably true. Its ridiculously stupid to think “this time” is any different.
A perfect employment opportunity for all those young male refugees. One million cannon fodder. Of course the governments of Europe would probably send all their own loyal troops to die just so they don’t have to worry about them staging a coup against themselves.
Donetsk? You mean Russian victory parade in Kiev.
Russian policy is strange to say the least. Taking crimea and partly taking Donbass but abandoning the rest of Ukraine to the EU and neo-Nazis. Bombing some USA backed rebels in some areas in Syria but communicating and negotiating with USA at the same time. Always Russia does enough to get hated by the West, get sanctions and create hysteria about a world war but not enough to actually change the world order.
All through this Putin and his men own big investments in the same Western unipolar lands they claim to be against. Companies from McDonalds to BP are free to work in Russia.
Russia is the national level version of Trump. Its all an act. Trump has no intention of winning. Russia will not challenge US. They are Controlled Opposition. Designed to keep the miiltary machines in West and Russia going and create a reason for mass surveillance and spread of fear. Frightened people are easy to control. Russia and USA are two sides of the same coin.
It was same in USSR times. Revolution in Russia in 1917 and USA after 1913 was the same people
“It was same in USSR times. Revolution in Russia in 1917 and USA after 1913 was the same people”
And Iraq had wmds…
US and RF are two different coin.
East and West may be controlled opposition, but it is not an act, and there will
be war. That’s what Rothschilds do, create wars. Rothschild controlled FDR,
Churchill, Hitler, and Stalin, and up popped WWII. WWIII is a cinch.
VERY STUPID CRAP -MR. ANON
Only an idiot fights on two fronts at once. Hitler is a prime example of being a military idiot.
Thus with Russia committed to Syria and the U.K. liberal racist intelligentsia wanting WW3 starting in Syria, Ukraine will be on permanent hold I’m afraid.
One must bear in mind that the British military Establishment is made up of donkeys, (while the men are veritable lions given enough gin before a battle [Waterloo was won on good old London gin]).
The donkeys to be found in British staff colleges and think tanks (as well as in Parliament), are well fed ‘nancy boys’ who are first rate arm chair generals one and all. With out exception a bunch of mentally retarded bullies more interested with getting on with US p***y that might or might not get in to the White House.
Unfortunately they still think Britain is a world power, and delude themselves that their obsolete and under equipped military is top notch!
Unfortunately it won’t be a donkey flying the British fighter plane that starts WW3!
I approve of your comment, but you mistake the nature of the donkeys, who are actually very intelligent animals. They respond to kindness with almost human expressions of friendship.
Historically I approve Caligola’s election of a horse to the senate, but if he had been wiser, he would have chosen a donkey.
@voltaire 1964,
There is a famous British phrase, “Lions led by donkeys”, used to describe the countless working class cannon fodder led to their deaths by the upper class officers in the carnage of the trenches in WW1.
I think that Richard was referencing this meme, still relevant today in Britain and concerning class and who is considered disposable, rather than intelligence.
Russia’s Central Bank is firmly controlled by Western global Finance. Until this changes, its all nonsense to talk about war between Russia and USA. Russians I work with are materialist, laid back, hedonistic persons. With some Orthodox vague identity which seems hollow and meaningless considering their lifestyles, visitor to Russia is shocked by the number of decaye buildings, drunk persons and women dressing sexually always.
This Russia is visit its not the anti west paradise people in these comments say it is. Russia feels like a version of USA but more raw and elemental. Young Russians dont hate the west really, they eat like the west, watch there films, dress like them, learn english often. Although different from Westerners, they seem from an arab view to be almost the same as any other east europeans.
If there is a Resistance to USA, it will come from Islam, whose Belief system compeletely forbid Usury, Interest, Debt and the other trappings of Western Finance which USA relys on for Power. Ghaddafi was doing change for REAL economic revolution in Africa and Islam, and the USA did its work to stop him. USA made a fake, puppet form of Islam, so ISIS is just a type of western army.
It is sad to read reading your remark, but if you are onsite, you have a better grasp of the situation than we can glean from paid reporters.
Your picture is strikingly different from my impression of the Soviet Union, which I visited at the end of my teens. If I can sum it up in a few words, I saw people I could easily become friends with, being themselves, and not interested in displaying their self-styled superiority, as it often is the case in the West. Opinion confirmed a few years later when work brought me to Moscow. It’s a dramatic change, by reading your comment.
@ Maghreb
“visitor to Russia is shocked by the number of decaye buildings, drunk persons and women dressing sexually always. ”
Totally disagree with this statement. Visited Russia 2 years ago.
Visited Lokot, a rural town south of Bryansk. A mix of apartment blocks (all with individual plots of dirt to grow vegies) and streets of quaint immaculately decorated wooden houses. We stayed with a cousin – the amenities were basic (pit toilet and outside banya- bathhouse). Local women herded the goats to pasture. In the streets not a speck of rubbish. Celebrated Russia Day with a horse racing and a traditional Russian food picnic in the park. Not a fast food outlet or a drunk in sight. At each local train stop, women boarded with baskets of wild berries and arms laden with herbs and flowers returning from their early morning forest pickings. The smell was divine and compensated for the 1930’s bone rattling train.
On to Moscow – wide streets busy with traffic. Fast food outlets near the tourist spots patronised by foreigners, but the Soviet style cafes and canteens were in more demand.
On to Suzdal – the only decaying buildings were 900 years old. Not a fast food outlet in sight.
On to St Petersburg – clean, modern. Celebrated white nights – a grand parade of school leavers party, but not a bit of rubbish – all picked up by cleaners before it hit the ground. Not a drunk in sight. The amazingly beautiful local women looked like dolls and dressed discretely fashionably – (not at all sexual).
So ‘decaying buildings – drunks – women dressed sexually’ …. not in the Russia that I visited.
In fact I was ‘shocked’ surprised by the huge number of Orthodox Churches in every town and hamlet – I though they had been destroyed.
Russia is much morally better in its Foreign Policy than USA but as a country internally it is not a good place. No real spirituallity in the people they dont take Church seriously excpet Easter and Christmas. Most people would not find life in Russia to be any better than the West. The whole culture of drugs, protitution and nightclubs is actually worse in Moscow than many western places. Corruption at local levels is big problem. But these are not relevant to outsiders and Russian policy abroad is good for the word.
good try troll
and you live where????
Anon 5:09
If you would bother to read some of my books or others of the same genre you would see how far off the mark your comments are. While we don’t wear our faith on our sleeves the proof is in observation. Few Christians here, practicing or not, fail to wear their Cross. Churches in this little village are generally packed for services.
Maghreb
You are absolutely correct in your observations of Russia. It is terrible here, especially in my city. Drugs, prostitutes, unbelievable corruption, filth, buildings falling apart, etc etc. I strongly advise not to come here, stay as far away from Russia and Krimu as you can. Food is way overpriced and of terrible quality, don’t drink the water, the wine is roughly akin to vinegar. Militsiya are only here to steal from you, even the dogs are vicious. Yes, by all means, stay as far away as possible from this cesspit.
Now, the question is what do we do with all those dolts and fools who did come here and won’t leave?
Auslander
Cheers Auslander… well said.
Germany can have then as Refugees.
Maybe it makes you feel good killing Syrians. Killing Iraqi made George Bush feel good. Russia is hated in the whole middle east. Only Alawites and Syrian Orthodox love Russia. Russia is (or appears to be) at war with Islam symoltaniously with the West. This is the problem you will have, as your population is 15 percent muslim and by 2070 will be a big majority Muslim.
Alawite = hybrid of Shiia and Greek Orthodox religion mixed with paganism.
Lol, Russophobe much?
Maghreb
If you have an ax to grind go grind it somewhere else, if not then try to enter the conversations in an erudite manner. No one said anything about killing anyone.
Our local Muslim population get along with us quite well. We don’t live apart in separate neighborhoods, everyone is mixed in with everyone else. Our local Muslims were also shoulder to shoulder with us in our revolution in February-March of ’14. The men stood on the barricades with us and helped dramatically in the construction of the block posts at Belbek Aerodrome, Yalta Ring and on the H06 near Verkhnosadove. The women all helped with cooking for and feeding the men on the barricades and making sure everyone had the necessities of life in the cold and damp of winter, gloves, warm and dry socks, smokes and lighters, water and such.
If you are alluding to trouble if and when the day comes when the Muslim population is a majority in Russia, why would that be?
Auslander
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This is quite a generalization of all Russians. I teach and work with young muslims – Arabs, Pakistanis, Iranis, they dress like westerners, speak English (what else to speak here), some go to mosque on Friday and have a pack of beer on Saturday, many women wear headscarfs, but you can see the midriff above the tight pants… What conclusion one can make based on this?
R
that West and USA in particular is in control of the world and it wont change soon. Except North Korea.
There is a story on RT right now.That if true,”should” be the straw that breaks the camels back of Syrian and Russian tolerance for the US actions.The US ans Saudis have make a “deal” to allow 9,000 armed ISIS fighters to relocate from Mosul in Iraq,to Syria. Those “hyena’s” have dared to make a deal to move more ISIS head choppers into Syria to do murder. To me that is a total deal breaker.
https://www.rt.com/news/362559-syria-iraq-mosul-isis/
If the article is true, then Russia and Syria should have the opportunity to intercept and destroy any gathering of 9.000 hostile troops headed to Syria..
perhaps that is why USA was opening up the route possibly at Deir Al-Zour………….?
Uncle Bob, why so mean and insulting to hyenas?
With respect and thanks for the shocking story, I have a few remarks.
The war began in 2014 at Kiev. War? Yes WW3 between Russia and, ah, a “powerful and bankrupt state”. It is irrelevant that now a lone pilot can make it worse. Of course it’s going to get worse. Some poor schmuck, pilot, gunner, or cook, will oblige sooner or later. And comrade President Putin has made it clear how it may be resolved – the US pays reparations and so forth, that and acts according to law. That’s an ultimatum. Surely the States are now are war, even if they were not in the past…a risible position.
Since the US is broke, and, assuming it loses the war, will have no position to bargain, Putin may be persuaded to accept Alaska… But maybe the deal goes the other way…, wait, no, it can’t…not possible.
In the Syrian “theater” of war3 it is obvious that there will be combat and aerial attacks on Russian aviation. It is obvious that Syria will be attacked by air. Obvious that the attackers will be resisted, and that pilots will probably die. Naval forces projecting air to Syria may well be sunk – and not only near Syria, but Yemen too – all obvious… It’s war, after all.
But to the business in Ukraine… Obviously the fascists will attack in a way coordinated with the affairs in Syria. That the Donbass and Lugansk will counter to a draw is essential for Putin, but this is a minimum. matters will, probably, go full throttle and seize the moment. My opinion is that they will liberate the entire country. This is in accord with what I see as the natural current of history.
I am very interested in discovering the moment when Comrade President is perceived as having defeated the hegemon…then we shall have, as has been strongly implied, trials…and see our ; entire vile history. This moment is, I expect, near…months; but may not come. I think, but may be mistaken, that he has already taken the initiative. It’s subtle, but it’s there…
The perception may occur if the fleet is sunk and the fascist state does nothing but drool…
And, of course, the fleet may well be sunk…
People see and form opinions, and then may assert their own interests…that’s the idea…
And I am waiting to learn the nature of the Russian Strategy to Defeat State “X”. Liddell Hart, and many experts, all teach that the indirect attack, the indirect method, the indirect Strategy, is the way to Victory… This implies that the master-stroke of strategy that brings victory will probably be a surprise…well, that’s the idea…
Gee whiz, I wonder where and what and how… ( and I can’t help recalling Dr Strangelove – and how much Primer Kissoff loves surprises…)
Of course there’s the inevitable counter-attack headed his way….
He might lose. This is possible.
But whatever brief future remains for the monster, it’s about washed up.
I hope we get to keep our law, the Common Law, and our customs and traditions…
Pax
Hey Auslander, Scott, Saker, translator girl et al here is a website of some interest to same people I just found. Anti new cold war, pro the good guys
https://www.sott.net/
Sucks. Do not go.
A Fundy End Times site
The zio-gay public skool brit freakshow has been running about pounding their hairless sunken chests lately, no doubt their zionazi masters have given them their orders in order to take the heat off the zionazi’s pindo colonial ravings.
With these statements it proves russians are just like Anglo. Same insults against each other. Anglo call Russians ignorant poor communist drunk and Russian call anglo imperial gay fat zionists. If you realised how similar russians and anglo are you would see the futility of your sentiments.
Go and vomit into another toilet please! No one here interested in your fu*king “wisdom”, ok? Let us live here in our ignorance and don’t bother to enlighten us anymore, you lollipop su*ker…
“anglo imperial gay fat zionists”
As the Germans say: Klasse!
A twist of irony it was you, Maghreb, who came up with that brilliant gem. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Now, please do go somewhere else — The Guardian would suit your anti-Russian sentiments far better.
good news – did you see this Auslander ? Its Russell Bentley explaining to the world the best way to come and join the revolution in Donbass –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji3blK3JnGw
Ann
I am aware of Russel and his efforts although I have not met him personally. One of our nearest and dearest has met him. He is good people.
Auslander
Auslander, don’t know who you are referring to, but I met Russell in Donetsk last October. Wish I could go back again; soon as I can.
Not to be outdone by their Anglo cousins across the Atlantic, British seek to prove that they are just as mentally unhinged as the Americans:
From: House of Commons ‘Debates’ a Nuclear War To ‘Protect Civilians’
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2016/161011_commons_debate.html
“At the initiative of Tory Member of Parliament Andrew Mitchell, the British House of Commons today staged an “Emergency Parliamentary Debate,” allegedly on Syria, as a forum for promoting war with Russia.
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The debate was quite a show. The 43 parliamentarians from various parties who spoke were speaking to each other; the rest of the seats were empty. The scene was dominated by wild diatribes against Russia, and calls for the House of Commons to make up for its “mistake” of 2013, when it voted against military strikes on Syria, by imposing a no-fly zone (NFZ) now.”
OMG-actually embarressing to watch, only idiots there, such a lack of brains and intelligence that our taxes pay for…………….I wonder if Russia has had a reply yet from BJ the village idiot-ban him from Russian territory, send all uk diplomats home please!
The clown in office is not betraying himself, Till the Big Bang Tower Clock hits the Twelve
extract from latest on anna-news
“At the initiative of German Chancellor Angela Merkel held a telephone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Hollande. “The leaders exchanged views on the Syrian issue. The importance of coordinating the efforts of the international community in the fight against the terrorist threat “, – stated on the website of the Kremlin.
Yesterday, the Kremlin said they did not plan to meet with French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel on the Syrian issue. This was stated by presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov.
French President Francois Hollande said that there should be an open dialogue with Russia on Syria and that he is always ready to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin. “I believe that there should be primarily the dialogue with Russia, but the dialogue must be honest and open, otherwise it is simply impossible to be just an illusion. I am always ready to meet with President Putin, “- he said.
United States expects to resume work with Russia on Syria, said State Department spokesman John Kirby. “The Secretary of State said it is clear that we have suspended the work, but that does not mean that we stop it forever.” – He said Kirby.
State Department spokesman John Kirby argues that the FSI Russian and Syrian Air Force deliberately inflict strikes on civilian targets. Kirby also pointed out that in cases where the US and its allies mistakenly strike somewhere in the world in terms of civil, then it is always carried out an investigation.
The responsibility for the failure of the agreements on Syria lies with Washington, said Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov. “We have done the maximum possible to establish cooperation with the United States in the fight against terrorism in Syria. They offered a number of promising and important areas of cooperation, including in terms of ensuring the security of Russia and countries of the military the US-led coalition antiigilovskoy. However, a full understanding not found “, – he said. “From these destructive actions of Washington terrorists win. That is why it is important to discard emotions, and once again to weigh the “pros” and “cons” joint fight against terrorism. Word – for Washington, “- he stressed. Russia will continue to consistently fight against international terrorism and to prevent the escalation in Syria. “We do not reject dialogue with the US, but we are ready to build it on an equal mutually respectful basis. We will continue to cooperate with the international community, the UN, the Security Council of this organization, “- said the deputy minister.
According to him, the supporters of military action in Washington, won a” Pyrrhic victory “, interrupting October 3 bilateral dialogue with Russia on the settlement in Syria. “Such a move is unfortunate and disappointing. I do not want to believe that Washington finally abandoned diplomacy and headed for a military solution to the conflict in Syria. From these destructive actions of Washington terrorists win. That is why it is important to discard emotions, and once again to weigh the “pros” and “cons” joint fight against terrorism. Word – for Washington “, – concluded the Antonov.
Permanent Representative of France to the UN Security Council, François Delattre on the results of the voting on the two resolutions on Syria, said that “the true result – is to isolate Russia great support French-Spanish resolution, as well as the lack of support from the Russian resolution demonstrates that Moscow is isolated in question. Syria and Aleppo. ”
British Foreign Minister Boris Johnson threatened to isolate Russia because of its actions in Syria. “If Russia continues to go the same way, I think this a great country risks becoming a pariah state”, – said Johnson. He stressed that “all available evidence points to the fact that for this crime is responsible Russia.” He added that “personally would like to see those responsible for these crimes before the International Criminal Court.”
According to the newspaper The Wall Street Journal as soon as next week, the head of EU governments will hold a meeting, one of the issues which will be the introduction of new sanctions against Russia because of the situation in Aleppo.
British military aircraft may enter into an international coalition to enforce the “no-fly zone” mode in an attempt to stop the Russian from committing war crimes in Syria, said the former British cabinet minister. Andrew Mitchell, who will conduct an emergency session of the House of Commons on the situation in Syria, said that, perhaps, there is a need to counter Russian aircraft in order to prevent further air strikes against Syrian civilians. He said: “What we say is quite obvious. However, nobody wants to get involved in an armed conflict with Russia, no one wants to shoot down Russian planes. Nevertheless, we want to say that the international community has generally accepted the responsibility to protect the civilian population, and that assistance should be provided. If it means a confrontation with Russian military space forces to protect innocent people, for whom we are responsible, we have to go to such a confrontation. ”
The United States at this stage, do not try to revive the agreement on Syria, signed with Russia in Geneva on the night of September 10. This was announced by press secretary of the White House Joshua Ernest, commenting on multilateral talks on Syria. As Ernest recalled the Geneva agreements provided an opportunity to establish “military cooperation with the Russians” in Syria with a view to the joint fight against terrorism. “It is no longer that the agreement that we are trying to agree on”, – the official representative of the US President said. “But of course we are working through a series of diplomatic channels in an attempt to lower the level of violence in Syria and this will inevitably include Russian participation.”, – He admitted.
However, he continued Ernest, such diplomatic efforts “are no longer in attempts context to agree on an agreement, the implementation of which has been the prospect of US military cooperation with Russia “in Syria. “Russia, frankly, lost credibility” in this direction, said the representative of the head of the American administration.
The number of settlements that have joined the reconciliation process has increased to 764. The number of armed groups that have declared their commitment to the terms of a cessation of hostilities, has not changed – 69.
During the day recorded 46 attacks by illegal armed groups in the provinces of Aleppo (23) Damascus (15), Hama (5), Latakia (2) and Durham (1). For days earlier – 47.
The Russian Air Force FSI and Syrian opposition by armed groups, have declared a cessation of hostilities and to report to the Russian or American centers reconciliation information about their location, strikes are not applied.
Successful promotion of the Syrian army in Aleppo caused numerous conflicts among the terrorists, said a source in the Ministry of Defense of Syria. According to the source RIA “News”, “the Syrian army is determined to establish full control over Aleppo and moving forward on a daily basis.” “The situation in Aleppo terrorists heavy, and moreover they will meet even greater challenges. Evidence of this was the beginning of the losses conflicts between terrorist groups in Aleppo, Idlib and Hama, “- said the source. According to the military, the differences in the camp of the militants began because of accusations against them on the part of countries sponsoring terrorism. “Because they will request a report for the selected fighters a lot of money and weapons provided. And there is no result, “- said the officer of the Syrian army.
Special services of the USA and Saudi Arabia agreed to provide the militants “Islamic state” it is safe to exit Iraq Mosul prior to his assault on the forces of the international coalition, said a military-diplomatic source in Moscow. “In preparation for the operation in Mosul between US intelligence agencies and Saudi Arabia agreed that before the assault all militants will offer a safe route to leave the city with their families. And during the time of the assault coalition aircraft would strike only on a pre-agreed with the fighters detached building in the city, who are empty “, – RIA” Novosti “a source word. According to him, US President Barack Obama has decided to carry out the operation to liberate Mosul in October. Washington’s plan and Riyadh also provides that militants from Mosul move to Syria.
“More than 9 thousand. Militants LIH of Mosul will be deployed in Syria eastern regions for subsequent large-scale offensive, which provides for the capture of Deir ez-Zor and Palmyra” – the source added.
The source also suggested that the idea for the transfer of militants from Mosul in the United States to Syria prompted the results that Russia has made in the SAR. “Apart from the purely political dividends for another purpose of this operation, obviously, will be to discredit the Russian VKS success, and, of course, is an attempt to undermine the position of President Assad. Washington needs something to counter the results of Russia in Syria, to try to minimize their importance “, – he said.
Private intelligence and analytical company Stratfor predicts the beginning of a direct clash between the armed forces of the Russian Federation and the United States in Syria in the coming months. Expert opinion: Now the White House and the Kremlin are not configured to solve the Syrian conflict by diplomatic means. In the near future the United States while stepping up attacks on the positions of the terrorists in the northern territories of the country, and to cooperate in the fields of battles with the Russian party States are not going to.
Analysts Stratfor believe that Washington would support Sunni insurgents in Syria, as well as to cover the Turkish troops who are torn south of the country . The Russian side will continue to support government forces. It is possible that it is because of a conflict of interest the armed forces of both nations will be able to enter into direct conflict on Syrian territory.
“The so-called” proxy wars “have an end. Their limit has long expired in Syria, and if the “proxy war” will continue, then the business can reach a clash between Russia and the United States. The case went before the large regional or even global war “, – he said in a broadcast Kurmultush Turkish TV channel. According Kurmultusha, the situation in Syria has escalated greatly after the failure of the ceasefire agreement in Syria concluded the United States and Russia.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had a telephone conversation with his Iranian counterpart, Javad Zarif. It was initiated by Moscow. “The focus of the talks was paid to the current situation in Syria on both sides confirmed no alternative to a political settlement of the Syrian crisis and the importance of intensifying international efforts to create the necessary conditions for it.”, – Stated in the comments of the Russian dipvedomstva.
Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu announced the US offer to participate in a joint operation against terrorists in Raqqa IG group. Cavusoglu reiterated Ankara’s position on the participation of the Kurds, saying that the country would support the operation only if the forces of the Kurdish “Democratic Alliance” will not participate in it.
The Russian authorities are considering the possibility of sending to Syria Party antiaircraft missile and gun complexes “Carapace”. In addition, with the “armor” in Syria should send command posts and additional radar stations that will use ZRPK “pobatareyno” and thereby increase the effectiveness of their application in the case of massive attacks.
The Swedish government does not exclude that may impose a range of sanctions against Russia because of the situation in Syria. This was stated by the Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, in an interview with German weekly Spiegel.
Federation Council ratifies agreement on the indefinite deployment of the Russian air base in Syria.
UN sees no prerequisites for the improvement of the humanitarian situation in Aleppo, spokesman Stephane Ban Dyuzharrik. The UN estimates that in eastern Aleppo, there are about 270 thousand. Man, the last UN humanitarian convoy arrived in this part of the city in early July.”
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MILITARY TRIUMPH FOR SYRIAN ARMY AT KAWKAB; TERRORIST MORALE SHAKEN TO THE BONE; 58 RODENTS KILLED ALONG WITH LEADERS; AL-MUHAYSINI PROMISING SWIFT JUSTICE AGAINST INCOMPETENT RAT COMMANDERS
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5 kms northeast of Sooraan, Kawkab is the latest disaster for the misled apes of the British Empire.
HAMA:
Kawkab Village: This village can be seen clearly if you scroll up to enlarge the area northeast of Sooraan Town. The terrorist shaman and notorious pedophile, and, even worse, the Saudi Arabian nimrod, ‘Abdullah Al-Muhaysini, ordered a ferocious assault on this village in the hope it would open the door to further expansion giving the Jaysh Al-Fath the opportunity to expand its control over northern Hama Province eventually leading to the capture of another Syrian capital, to wit: Hama City. He and his British/American/Zionist/Turkish/Saudi pimps desperately needed to undertake this gambit in order to break the siege of Aleppo by forcing the SAA to reduce troops there and forward them southwest to the Hama theater. This is a British-concocted plan. Make no mistake about it. While Al-Muhaysini will not take direct orders from “dhimmis” or infidel/non-Muslim commanders, he is fully aware that British agents in Gaziantep are conducting his operations for him but using Turks and Saudi heretics as conduits for the detailed instructions. The Turk Army has been severely disabled by prosecutions of its best officers and there is a disconnect between the military and the government. In the case of the Saudis, well, you can see how brilliantly they are performing in Yemen. It has, thus, been left to the British to mishandle the entire front in the north.
Since early September, Jaysh Al-Fath has fortified effectively in areas like Hilfaayaa, Ma’ardass and Teebat Al-Imaam. But, they have faltered in moving out of their fixed positions. They have failed also to protect their fortifications which are being assailed every hour by the SAAF and RuAF. All along the battle lines, at the above-mentioned towns, fires are blazing and rodents are dying. Convoys carrying weapons and medicine to the crazed jihadists are being destroyed.
Now, at Kawkab Village, yesterday, between 1,500 and 2,000 rodents marched behind a wall of armored cars and over 20 pickups armed with 23mm Doschka anti-aircraft guns modified for anti-personnel and anti-armor purposes. The Hama Plain is flat and the rodents are able to move across short distances with some ease. The other side of the coin is that they are exposed to very accurate artillery and aerial attacks even at night since the Syrian Armed Forces have received thousands of night-vision instruments from both Russia and Iran. As they moved to the south, ostensibly to establish a position allowing them to move even more southward to Qamhaana, they ran afoul of a tempest of fire whose source was the SAAF and SAA artillery units. I have discussed before the tactics used by the Canaanite/Punic General, Hannibal, at Canae. The Syrian military has been very adept at applying those kinds of tactics to battles with the seemingly empty-headed degenerates who infest the rank-and-file of terrorist organizations in Syria.
Once the artillery and air bombardment ceased, the rodents continued forward as the very mechanized Syrian armor withdrew giving the terrorists the impression that there was not going to be a confrontation. As they withdrew more and more, they allowed the terrorists to enter a killing zone with SAA armor moving on the fringes forming a pincer. Once the rodents were inside the pincer, crack SAA infantrymen in APCs, trucks and atop T-72 tanks rolled into the mass of confused vermin firing their weapons, mostly AK47s, RPGs and Kornets. The net result was a catastrophic defeat.
A leader of Jaysh Al-Fath, Hannaan Abu-Al-Layth was blown into pieces along with his 3 bodyguards. The scene was one of pandemonium with remnant commanders ordering a terribly executed withdrawal back toward Kawkaba. But, SAA officers would have none of that. The order was to pursue the fleeing scum and scores were either killed or wounded. In the aftermath, the SAA counted 58 carcasses and arrested 89 wounded rodents. And the army continued its pursuit under cover of the SAAF until it reached the surrounding areas of Kawkaba which we expect the army to take any hour now.
Intercepted communications from the area between Idlib and Aleppo recorded Al-Muhaysini lamenting the terrible losses and promising prosecution for the way the attack was handled. He was also heard responding to a comment about “morale dropping” and said that the Mujaahideen should remember that their defeat was “God’s will”. I mean, can anyone believe this imbecile?
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ALEPPO: Extremely heavy fighting now at Bustaan Al-Baashaa, Sulaymaan Al-Halabi and Al-Shaykh Sa’eed. The Republican Guard’s 102 Armored Brigade supported by the Palestinian Liwaa` Al-Quds is fighting an Al-Qaeda-linked group call Harakat Fath Halab at Bustaan Al-Baashaa with reports of hand-to-hand combat and substantial terrorist losses. The Army has also moved south to the Harakat Nooredden Al-Zangi-controlled water station with inconclusive reports coming in of tenacious terrorist defense.
At Al-Shaykh Sa’eed, the army’s crack 800th Regiment, Hizbollah and the Iraqi Harakat Al-Nujabaa` is locked in combat with Jaysh Al-Fath at the Tal Al-Shaykh Sa’eed hilltop.
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Read more at http://syrianperspective.com/2016/10/military-triumph-for-syrian-army-at-kawkab-terrorist-morale-shaken-to-the-bone-58-rodents-killed-along-with-leaders-al-muhaysini-promising-swift-justice-against-incompetent-rat-commanders.html#qaAQRzD8PpMib9We.99
same old rubbish from PACE
BRUSSELS (QHA) –
The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe adopted two resolutions with the amendments proposed by the Ukrainian delegates, according to Facebook page of the Ukrainian MP Vladimir Aryev.
“I am proud of the team work of the delegation to the PACE! Once we have reached all the most important references in the two resolutions on Ukraine, namely the extension of sanctions against Russia to restore full sovereignty of Ukraine, the condemnation of the illegal elections in Crimea as well as ban Mejlis, the refuse the call to take the Russian Federation to the Assembly in spite of anything, to release prisoners and many more. Even the title “the conflict in Ukraine” was replaced by “Russia’s aggression in Ukraine”,” he wrote.
He noted that even those speakers who were supportive of Russia, in fact acknowledged that the Russian Federation has brought trouble upon Ukraine.
“We know this, of course, but in Europe they are methodically polished by the generously funded Russian propaganda. And our team will continue to do everything possible to combat the influence of the Russian lobby in PACE. The word of truth against manipulation. And we win. Together.” Aryev concluded.
Photo: Internet
Sweden calls for more sanctions, EU to consider this, Rus was? going to reconsider its position re attending PACE, but I suggest that is shut off now…………especially as VP said byebye to Holland………ukr “confirms” Minsk is deceased…………..
New Russian delegation at PACE to be formed soon
Russian Politics & Diplomacy October 06, 14:02 UTC+3
Russia’s delegation at PACE was deprived of its key rights in April 2014 over developments in Ukraine and Crimea’s reunification with Russia
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MOSCOW, October 6. /TASS/. Russia’s new delegation at the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) will be formed in the near future, head of the State Duma (lower house of parliament) International Affairs Committee, Leonid Slutsky, told reporters on Thursday.
“I think the State Duma part of the delegation will meet literally within a month, as the part of the Federation Council (upper house of parliament) has already been formed,” he said.
Slutsky added that for the time being the process of forming the delegation will be a sheer formality, since Russia is not involved in the current work of PACE. “Therefore, there is no hurry, but I think we will hold a meeting of the new delegation in the coming weeks,” he said.
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The parliamentarian emphasized that Russia had not stopped its work with the assembly’s political groups. “The PACE Presidential Committee was in Moscow in full force on September 6-7, and this indicates that Strasbourg needs Russia and is frantically looking for ways to bring the Russian delegation back,” he said.
Slutsky noted though that the Russian delegation will return to PACE only if guarantees are provided that its powers will not be challenged again. “If the very possibility of making discriminatory decisions on national delegations’ powers persists, we will not be prepared to return to full-fledged work in PACE,” he said. He admitted that, if this is the case, the delegation could go to Strasbourg in a narrow format.
Russia’s delegation at PACE was deprived of its key rights in April 2014 over developments in Ukraine and Crimea’s reunification with Russia. In 2015, PACE voted twice on a possibility of restoring the Russian delegation’s powers but the restrictions remain in force. Russia is stripped of the right to vote and take part in the PACE governing bodies and its monitoring activities.
Owing to these restrictions, the Russian delegation suspended its participation in the PACE work until late 2015. The leadership of the Russian delegation has repeatedly said it would return to PACE only if all the sanctions were lifted. In January 2016, Russia refused to bid for confirming its powers this year.”
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http://tass.com/politics/904533
but then
Non-recognition of Crimea election may complicate Russia’s return to PACE — lawmaker
Russian Politics & Diplomacy October 13, 6:40 UTC+3
“It is highly likely that the resolution was adopted on the initiative of our strategic opponents in the West,” Leonid Slutsky said
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Russian parliamentary elections in Sevastopol, Crimea
Russian official sees no legal grounds not to recognize elections in Crimea
MOSCOW, October 12. /TASS/. The resolution on non-recognition of elections to the State Duma in Crimea adopted by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) may complicate the return of the Russian delegation to PACE in 2017, Leonid Slutsky, chairman of the Russian State Duma’s Committee on International Affairs, told reporters.
“The adoption of PACE resolution on non-recognition of State Duma elections in Crimea may complicate the Russian delegation’s return to the Assembly in 2017,” Slutsky said.
“It is highly likely that the resolution was adopted on the initiative of our strategic opponents in the West who do not want Russia to have an opportunity at the widest European platform, PACE, to explain its position and tell the truth about modern realities and Crimea’s accession to Russia,” he added.
PACE adopted a resolution on the political situation in Ukraine on Wednesday. Upon the initiative of the Ukrainian delegation, an amendment was made to the resolution on non-recognition of elections to the Russian State Duma in Crimea.
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http://tass.com/politics/906185
From that it appears Russia is “still in denial” of what is happening. Its a shame there isn’t a Dr Freud around that can help them come to terms with reality.I would suggest a double slap to the face,followed by a bucket of ice water dumped on the head. And then shouting very loud “get over it,they hate you. Stop making a fool of yourself by crawling around them begging “acceptance”.Geez,have they got no shame.Just deal with the facts and “move on”,its embarrassing reading that dribble..
Uncle B, I think you are reading the situation in Moskau a little wrong. Russia is strengthening more every day but two things appear to be paramount in Mr. Putin’s mind.
He is buying as much time as he possibly can before the confrontation comes to a head regardless of how insulting the other side is and how much they try to provoke him in to action before he is ready and he is doing everything he can to avoid war.
Two, he has very clearly stated some few months ago in a live interview to the effect of growing up on the streets of St. Pete taught him one thing. If you feel you must fight get in the first blow. If the other side does not stop this foolishness and provocations they may get something they don’t want…..when VVP is ready. I’m quite sure Mr. Putin is well aware of what the adversary thinks of him and this country and has no illusions concerning their intentions.
Do you remember the shock in The West when that little fleet of river boats in the Caspian fired a spread of Kalibr missiles at Brand X in Syria? They all hit within 3 meters of their target and the range was very long. Those little boats can go up the waterways feeding the Caspian to very much within range of Europe and numerous capitols thereof. However, they don’t have to sail up the rivers, it is my understanding a Kalibr system will fit in a standard railroad container car. I think there’s more than one of those floating around the RF rail system. Europe was aghast at the Kalibr system. Seems there’s not much defense against it.
The other side of the Kalibr system is how many shipping containers are afloat on various ships at this moment? Think US east and west coast, many kilometers inland from the coasts, as in Pittsburg is very much within range from well out to sea.
Auslander
Auslander, I understand and agree, Russia needs more time – alas, there is never enough time to prepare for war. Russia also does everything to avoid it. Russia wasted time and failed to some degree to prepare in the previous years and I do not want to comment now why. The situation is distressingly similar to 1940-41. Before the previous war, the Soviet government also did everything to postpone and avoid the war, never mind idiotic theories how Stalin prepared to attack first. To avoid panick and provocations, they also kept issuing calming messages to the people. I do not put blaim, it is easy to analyze from the distance of time, but I think that this mental unpreparedness of the people (and I mean on every level) played a huge role in the disastrous first days and months. I think that the human factor was the main factor in this first days and was the main factor later leading to victory. We should never undermine human factor and I think that although much better than “yesterday”, the Russian society is not well prepared for what is coming.
R
oh the irony
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Russia should be present in PACE, organization’s president says
World October 14, 5:35 UTC+3
“As the president of the Assembly I want all the states to participate in the work of our organization,” Agramunt said
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Pedro Agramunt © EPA/PATRICK SEEGER
STRASBOURG, October 14. /TASS/. Russia’s representatives should take part in the work of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and the absence of any country harms the organization’s interests, PACE President Pedro Agramunt said in an interview with TASS.
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Lawmaker calls to restore Russia’s rights at PACE and modernize its work
“I don’t know if Russian parliamentarians come to the upcoming PACE session in January. But as the president of the Assembly I want all the states to participate in the work of our organization,” Agramunt said summing up the debate of the autumn session in Strasbourg.
“There may be differences and even confrontation between the member-states of the organization. But the solution may be found only based on a dialogue and for this the presence of Russia’s representatives is needed,” he said.
Ukraine’s position in PACE
PACE adopted a resolution on the political situation in Ukraine on Wednesday. Upon the initiative of the Ukrainian delegation, an amendment was made to the resolution on non-recognition of September 18 elections to the Russian State Duma in Crimea. Some parliamentarians voiced their disagreement with the maneuver during the debate.
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“I can personally dislike something but as the president of PACE I must defend all the decisions and resolutions taken at a plenary session,” Agramunt said.
“Another thing is important for me: it is necessary to resolve the conflict. But now there are obstacles that prevent us from doing this. The main obstacle is the lack of dialogue between Ukraine and Russia,” he explained.
Agramunt criticized the recent statement of Ukraine’s Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin who threatened that Kiev could halt its work in PACE if the rights of Russia’s delegation in the organization were restored.
“I would like to say again: the absence of any country does not meet its own interests and the interests of the organization. Ukraine won’t earn anything if Russia is not represented in PACE. It won’t earn anything if it is not represented in PACE itself,” Agramunt said.
New State Duma speaker
Agramunt expressed wish to meet with the new speaker of Russia’s State Duma (lower house of parliament) Vyacheslav Volodin.
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“I’m sure that we will have good relations like with previous speakers of the Russian parliament,” he said. “I would like to have an opportunity to meet with him personally.”
Volodin, first deputy chief of staff of Russia’s presidential administration, was elected the State Duma speaker on October 5. He replaced Sergey Naryshkin who was appointed director of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service.
Russia’s delegation at PACE was deprived of its key rights in April 2014 over developments in Ukraine and Crimea’s reunification with Russia. In 2015, PACE voted twice on a possibility of restoring the Russian delegation’s powers but the restrictions remain in force. Russia is stripped of the right to vote and take part in the PACE governing bodies and its monitoring activities.
Owing to these restrictions, the Russian delegation suspended its participation in the PACE work until late 2015. The leadership of the Russian delegation has repeatedly said it would return to PACE only if all the sanctions were lifted. In January 2016, Russia refused to bid for confirming its powers this year.
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Boris Johnson says UK should consider military options in Syria
https://www.rt.com/uk/362606-boris-military-options-syria/
BJ lives down to what his initials commonly mean and proves yet again he is still a public skool boi servicing others on bended knee.
ha,ha…good one
Just posted to my FB page: https://southfront.org/uk-air-force-pilots-ordered-to-shoot-down-hostile-russian-jets-over-syria/ mod PS
It looks like Clinton has found her British “Tony Blair” for war against Russia in Syria. Boris Johnson,the half-Jewish “Kibbutznik” who went to work on a Kibbutz in Israel as a student is calling for “a Western coalition” to invade Syria to destroy Assad and “save Aleppo”.The drumbeat has started now. Its going to take war to stop NATO aggression in Syria. I just hope Russia and Iran can recognize the “handwriting on the wall”. Its clear as the nose on Kerry’s face to an American that has seen this game played,over and over again.Now is the time to preempt it. To publicly let it be known that any attack on Syria means war with Russia and Iran.Only the public knowledge that the missiles will fly for certain,can deter NATO aggression. Half-measures aren’t good enough anymore.They will be seen by Americans as weakness.Once the war drums start up.The West won’t listen to anything else except plain talking.
Under the Nuremberg precedent, it is incumbent on RAF pilots to arrest the officers ordering them to fly over Syrian skies. They have no legal authority to be there in the first place.
With regards the article, maybe it’s over already?
The RAF will fire back if attacked but in the meantime will avoid RuAF and any possible confrontation. N
Not quite so threatening.
How does this go with the reported Lufwaffe ‘technical faults@ that have grounded 6 recon aircraft?
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update on the wider picture in the middle east
yemen
the american have shelled radar posts overlooking the red sea, in response to a ” attack” upon it’s vessels “supposedly” coming from areas under houthi control. LOL
looks like the american will be intervening directly in yemen to save the arse of their wahhabi dog who is getting his ass kicked by one of the poorest nations on earth.
the americans have not learnt from vietnam, iraq and afganistan, it is worth to note here that the yemeni landscape is a lot like afganistan, rocky hills and mountains, harsh terrain and an AK under every rock and behind every corner. good luck with that.
iraq
turkish traitor and ego maniac erdogan has been trading insults with iraqi president over mousl. the iraqis asked him nicely to leave iraq, erdo would not comply, blabbering about how the PMU forces must not attack mousl and that his forces are the ones that must take it, this is quit funny given that ISIS is a turkish/zionist/america invention to start with and all of the stolen oil in both iraq ans syria somehow made its way to turkey. the man is positively insane.
other interesting news
the egyptians and saudis have been trading insults over the past 2 days. the saudis calling al-sisi a traitor because he is not following saudi demands that egypt fight in yemen and syria for the wahhabi cause. the egyptians are among the most talented of arabs at cursing and using foul language which has been directed at salman and his oily kingdom. the saudi have recalled their ambassador in egypt for “consultation” , they have also cut off oil export to egypt.
the best thing for the arabs would be if the egyptians collide with the saudis, this will move egypt even closer to russia, syria, iraq and iran.
Read more at http://syrianperspective.com/2016/10/bone-crushing-assault-by-saa-liberates-all-maaan-town-in-hama-saakhoor-and-hanaanu-collapsing-under-weight-of-army-assault-residents-coming-by-the-hundreds-to-help-exterminate-rodents.html#oiCt9lY58MtQq176.99
It seems you are idiots!!!! It Is USA against Russia, and Obama/Clinton against Putin. You want to force western “democracy” and they resist!!! Well are you really “democratic”????