Russian Embassy in Kiev under attack – possible chemical attack in the East tonight – situation in Iraq

Thanks a bunch to Sayer – 0300. A cracking article from Ziad Fadel and observations from Sayer.

Here’s a video of a speech on 4 June to the Bundestag by Sahra Wagenknecht about the EU crisis and the civil war in Ukraine (sorry if its already been posted). She is proof that there are people close to power with solid insights into what is going on and who desperately want to change the direction of both EU and German policy. Unfortunately they still wield very little power themselves. A tipping point in public opinion is what is needed but that is precisely what Anglo-US-NATO, with all their propaganda resources, will move heaven and earth to prevent. Much as I too want to see their agenda crumble, frankly I don’t see it happening short of vastly greater hardships being inflicted on Ukraine, Syria, Iraq and elsewhere. They do appear to be desperate in their promotion and defence of the indefensible but that is small consolation set against the vast scale of humanitarian damage they are prepared to countenance.

Saker:
As for the central Europeans a la Poland, Lithuania, Romania or Bulgaria – they picked Uncle Sam as their patron and sold their souls to him for pennies (talk about betting on the wrong horse!).

As a Bulgarian I am ashamed. Problem is we have no choice – both “left” and “right” parties do the same politics, both are controlled by US.

BBC-Newspeak:
“Now Nato has released satellite imagery … which appears to give added weight to assertions from the Ukrainian authorities that the tanks used by separatist forces … were indeed supplied by the Russians.

The evidence shown comes from Nato military sources and is not necessarily conclusive. But, despite Russian denials, it is strongly suggestive of the narrative that Nato is setting out.”

It is not conclusive, but what???
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

“Egypt: US wanted to create a client state. Fail.”

It’s actually worse than that. With Mubarak on the throne, the US already had a firm client state. But Obama’s attempt to make nice with Morsi totally alarmed the Egyptian Army. Now it appears that Sissi wants to make Egypt a free agent. To be continued…

-Seamus Padraig

“Does anyone have any real knowledge about the morale in the Donbass? I look at various Russian/Crimean sites, but these are full of trolls and hard-liners.”

I’m going to voice of dissension here, but I hate everything about this Donbas operation. I honestly think Donbas could have gotten it’s independence using 90% non-violent methods. They drew their guns too early and kept them too prominent so now it’s easy for them to be dismissed as “terrorists” by the West.

Rockerduck,

Take a look at your second paragraph and ask yourself *why* the South was disorganized and lacking the will to fight — and then ask yourself how much money it would have taken to *give* them that will, organization, morale (I’m just using your words here). Then look up how much money we did spend, and how many munitions we did fire — certainly more than enough, IF money had been the defining factor. Which. It. Was. Not. We could have spent every penny on earth and it would have ended the same way. The Right still holds a grudge bc they think the Left “won”. No one won except Uncle Ho. Get over it.

Now as for Ukraine — I will say that you do seem to be applying lessons from our Vietnam debacle (and fwiw I think Putin is too). I.e., what really matters is the will of the people bc without it, ain’t no way. And yeah, propaganda is amazingly powerful, isn’t it. Especially inside Ukraine — the Balts have their own fish to fry, I guess. I’m not so sure Russia won’t step in, but we’re all just surmising as we watch these horrors unfold. Still collecting facts, and praying, hard.

sasy,

So Obama not only sold out to the banksters, he kept all the $%^& Neocons. Lovely.

Lohmann and know the truth,

Yes to all you both said. Except, the UN was specifically set up to preserve American hegemony. The difference is, I think Putin really does believe in International Law. And the contrast in the eyes of the rest of the world between Russia and us (defined loosely as the Empire + EU plus whichever other whores we’re keeping) just keeps growing. We have no historical knowledge or memory and I’m impressed when we think 1-1/2 moves ahead (however diabolical the moves, at least it’s a sign of cognitive activity). Russia, and China and the Shi’a world, otoh, have an ongoing awareness of more than the past thousand years, that view is always connected to their present and informs their future, which stretches out far past the next quarterly profits. So they’re looking WAAYYYY ahead and weighing their ultimate goals while we just keep on destroying. They can’t necessarily stop us, but they can figure out how best to survive our insanity; hopefully, human decency and the rule of law will ultimately prevail.

rob,

I used to think we Westerners had the market cornered on the “hate gene”. Not. No. Mo’.

Dear The Saker,

I feel the USG, Britain and France crossed the line today where we are at a point of no return. Due to them blocking the UN resolution – from today attacking Embassies are therefore ok across the world but especially against those countries who blocked the resolution – this is something they have to bear in mind.

This has set a very destructive political precedent.

Their credibility and showing their true colours are truly on display now.

Laurent Fabius telling Lavrov that France is going to send out a statement is not going to cut the mustard. And don’t forget the State Department and McFaul etc. had already condemed. You can’t block at the UNSC – which is supposed to be a peace keeping body and then condem the attack later with a statement.

Why are they so scared to condem the Kiev junta? We know they support it but Embassies is opening a can of worms.

Rgds,

Veritas

Ukraine = “Hotel Rwanda” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBIuGHO66gs

Another interpretation of the war in Iraq and of the spectacular progression of Isis/Isil:
http://www.europesolidaire.eu/article.php?article_id=1384&r_id=
(French)

Hello everyone! Long time reader, first time poster here.
First of all, Saker, thank you so much for the fantastic work you are doing! Thanks to all the posters, too, for your valuable input!
I am Russian-Ukrainian (although as my mum says, not Ukrainian anymore). Anyways, I’ve been following the situation closely for a few months – lost sleep and faith in humanity. What’s more I started over analyzing things I read and see.
What I want to share, though, is probably me becoming paranoid. Have you watched the new movie “The Edge of tomorrow”? I watched it today and was shocked. It basically is about an alien attack on Earth – the action takes place in Europe, headquarters in London. A US major arrives in London to help. Continental Europe is occupied and they are planning on saving it. The major goes to the office of the general and this is when the fun begins. The general has a huge screen on the wall which shows a map of the occupied areas of Europe and the location of the ally’s forces. After some time the map disappears and we see a test card. Random colourful blocks. Not so random in some cases – you can see the flag of Russia on the right, and the flag of Ukraine on the left. The western powers’ army is called United Defense something. The general mentions the forces of Russia and China that are heading to Europe too to help with the invaders. After some time the US major realizes that what he needs to do is to destroy the “OMEGA” – the brain of the aliens. He’s helped by a woman whose name sounds Polish to me. They first think the omega is in Germany but after that find out that it is in Paris. They go to Paris and destroy the omega. They destroy it, so do they need Russia and China in Europe now? I would say no, but what we hear at the end is that it’s said that now that the aliens are destroyed, Russia and China can move through Europe without any resistance. End of the movie.
Tell me now, please, is my place at the psychiatrist?

RMG said :

“A fourth difference is that a much higher percentage of the fighting-age men (and women) of ‘North Vietnam’ were engaged in the Vietnam war than are engaged in Novorossia”.

You are missing out one very important fifth difference. In Vietnam you had free reporting. The press was not as beholden to the establishment in Vietnam as they have been since then. Vietnam was awash with free lance correspondents and photographers and there was none of this “embedding” of press with selected military units as we now have. In Vietnam a war correspondent could go wherever he wanted according to how brave or crazy he was. The American public got the full gruesomeness of the Vietnam war every evening right in their front rooms on TV, and this contributed in a large part to turning the public against the war. The “exceptionals” took full note of this and have made darned sure the same mistake was never repeated.

Espina says
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38812.htm

France, Germany urge quick cease-fire in Ukraine

PARIS, June 14 (Xinhua) — French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Saturday pointed to the necessity to quickly reach a cease-fire in Ukraine, a pillar stone in the diplomatic process to de-escalate violence in Kiev.

During phone talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the two European leaders “expressed their deep concern over the continuing fighting in east of Ukraine.”

“… They have emphasized the importance of reaching an early cease-fire … to create effective conditions of a de-escalation, mainly by avoiding fighters and weapons transfer and calling on separatists to end combat,” a statement released by Hollande’s office said.

Hollande and Merkel, who brokered a meeting between Russian and Ukrainian leaders on the sidelines of D-Day landings on June 6, “stressed the need to reach an agreement on how to continue the supply of gas from Russia to Ukraine,” the communique added.

On Saturday morning, a Ukrainian military transport plane was shot down by anti-government militants in the eastern city of Lugansk, killing 49 Ukrainian troops.

In a separate phone conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart Petro Porechenko, Hollande expressed his condolences over the fatal militants’ attack, adding that “those responsible for this crime should be identified and brought to justice.”

The French president reiterated Paris “full support” to succeed negotiations between Moscow and Kiev to find diplomatic alternative to the crisis.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/special/2014-06/15/c_133407784.htm

Translation: Please, we beg of you Vladimir Vladimirovich, ignore the acts of war of our allies … you are the only one who can save us from our weakness in the face of evil.

Brian

Sayer,

I hear you. Not sure about “Old-Anglos” but I know the State Department used to be chock-full of educated, knowledgeable types who really did care despite unwittingly having bought the party line. Really, we all did, more or less. But between Cheney and the Neocons humiliating and deliberately pushing them out and bunches of others having reached retirement age, I sure don’t envy the rest of them one single bit. It’s got to be hideously frustrating for anybody who really understands this stuff and has a modicum of decency.

And yes, learning the truth is a hideously painful process — and even if you get kind of used to having had just about all of your assumptions being turned upside down, it’s still almost as rough the next time it happens. So the good guys there sure have my blessings (big whup, huh?), because they may be the only people *anywhere* who really can do anything at all about *any* of this. And now I’m sitting here wondering exactly how… ;~)

Lia,

What the Anglo-Zionist Empire, Warsaw, Kiev and EU are doing is utterly horrifying to people without the ties of blood and culture you have; I can only imagine what you and your mum must be going through. But any shrink worth his or her salt (to the extent there are any) would be a lot more worried if you weren’t feeling what you are! How could you not?

That movie, otoh, sure sounds like it was designed to scare people at a (conveniently?) scary time, right? So there’s some manipulation there even if it wasn’t deliberately designed as yet one more piece of propaganda. But it sure sounds like it was, doesn’t it? Also, try looking at it this way: after what we now know, just since Odessa if not before, both Russia and China would have to try REAL HARD to be worse than we are. And it’s quite likely they’ve got other, better fish to fry and would prefer doing so in conditions other than ongoing horror and chaos. (I.e., both of them do seem to care about their own people. But with all this austerity business deliberately impoverishing everyone but oligarchs, we clearly don’t. So even if this propaganda/fantasy came true — and I don’t believe it for a minute — we all might end up WAAY better off! ;~)

I really feel for what you must be going through; it’s just got to be hell. And we here have got, somehow, to get people into power who understand that we have *no right whatever* to impose ourselves and our supposed values on anyone else anywhere. We must stop ourselves; it’s the only moral thing to do. The question is, how.

http://lepontduhadu.blogspot.fr/2014/06/video-un-homme-parle-des-brutes-fr-russe.html

Video in Russian and French translation.

+++=
this video needs to round as widely as possible:

(outline of neonazis in Ukr}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UaaiTZk6Dig

Brian_J wrote on 15 June, 2014 17:57:

[citing Xinhua]

In a separate phone conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart Petro Porechenko, Hollande expressed his condolences over the fatal militants’ attack, adding that “those responsible for this crime should be identified and brought to justice.

The illegitimate junta sends its stormtroopers, consisting of mercenaries and Nazi thugs, to slaughter their own population. There is a civil war going on, but none of that is worth mentioning for Mr. Hollande. Since these thugs are the West’s thugs, they are worthy victims and have to be mourned for. Further, the combat action is magically turned into a crime that has to be “brought to justice”. Who will be the judge? The unelected junta, perhaps?

Contrast that with the Donbass resistance, who is not only branded terrorists, but also an unworthy victim for the media. No condolence whatsoever for the massacres in Odessa or Mariupol. Neither are there demands for bringing those atrocities to justice – after all the “government” demonstrates its restraint and appreciation for Western values. Instead, the victims are either ignored or blamed themselves for their deaths.

Mr. Hollande seems to genuinely endorse the notion, like his Ukrainian “colleagues”, that ethnic Russians are merely Untermenschen that need to be exterminated.

B.

Q: Where was the CIA when Crimea was annexed?

R: At the same place they were when 9/11, 7/7 and the shoe-bombing/underwear clusterfuck unfolded. La-la-land, where the bucks are green and the bock more hopped than ale…

What is that you say?

Doesn’t make any sense?

As much sense as all those governmental ‘conspiracy theories,’ I’d say…

Nora,
you are obviously right, people with weapons but lacking a will to fight will loose. The problem is that people with a will to fight without weapons will also loose. Voltaire was already saying in his time that God is always on the side of the big battalions and, cynical as the old Frenchman was, he was not far from the truth. By now, imho, NAF needs long range weapons for counterbattery, a lot of mines (not for Slayansk or Donetsk, but to shield less defended places like Marjupol and the approach roads), night vision equipment, encrypted communication and satellite help. Russia can’t provide most of this without “intervening”. The Western are already acting as if Russian troops were on the outskirts of Kiev, so I don’t understand what Russia would loose in doing so. And without this (or more, according to the judgement of people there, like Juan) Donbass people will simply keep on being battered.

RMG, you got the point. Manpower is also a resource. Kiev can impress thousands of draftees into service, badly motivated cannon fodder, I agree, but still able to pull a trigger. Then again, they can form units like the Azovs in Marjupol with fanatics, get mercenaries from the US and, what is worse, get volunteers from all over Europe, thanks to the hurricane of lies unleashed on the Continent. In Eastern Europe it is taken for granted that a good lot of Poles and Lithuanians are already serving with the Ukris. Without a substantial contribution from men in green (=North Vietnamese), again, Donbass defenders won’t ever be able to take the initiative.

Know the truth, your fifth difference was included in the second. And it makes for the most bitter part of the problem. People like the Pierre Allard quoted by GV wait for an anti-american feeling to develop through Europe in truth and justice. Best wishes. In normal conditions it would take years, with the MSM we have it will take even longer, and longer yet before something effective comes out of that. Donbass doesn’t have all this time.
Rockerduck

Nora, thank you for the Chelsea Manning link. No surprise for anyone, I guess.
There is something even worse, however. Many European mainstream channels don’t bother to send reporters, they just have a correspondent in Kiev, some even handle the matter from Moscow. Still, even without moving from your office, the internet is redundant with information. And still nevertheless they offer their public the BS cooked in Washington. Hopeless.
Rockerduck

Nora/Sayer,

As a “old-Anglo” its been a bumpy ride. No one warned me to strap-on a seat-belt when I started this journey. One day it “all” began to make sense. The pattern of the last 20-40-50-100 years is Empire and hegemony vs. humanity and liberty.

I had an interesting exchange with Saker months ago about American Exceptionalism. I said that I still wanted to believe in it. He almost laughed me off the page. Rather than be offended I began to think about my concept of “exceptional”. My mental list of those American qualities of exceptionalism –openness, hard work, loyalty, decency, kindness, sacrifice — were human qualities which Christ exampled and taught. To be honest — I don’t recall when this notion of “exceptionalism” became part of the vernacular. In my family bragging was discouraged. It was discourteous and ill-mannered and boorish to discuss ones “greatness” vis-à-vis another. Those who talked about their own “exceptionalism” were people one would avoid at all costs. Today, they’re everywhere. In those days they were better hidden.

In the 1960’s my sister-in-law grew up in Beriut — the Paris of the middle east. Her father was a career diplomat. One of the “old-Anglo” types who no longer exist at DOS. He was not CIA. He thought neo-cons were crazy. He was smart and introspective and nuanced. He didn’t miss anything. And he was in the thick of it all during his career. I don’t see anyone at DOS which is this man’s equal. Lavrov reminds me of him. Churkin looks like him. Which is one reason I tend to think of the Russians as the new “old-Anglo’s”. They have similar qualities.

To be honest — being “exceptional” is a burden. Particularly when you have to PROVE it to others. When you must force others to see you as exceptional — versus doing those small deeds every day which demonstrates your WORTHINESS.

One more illusion left in the dust. I don’t put up the US flag anymore. Silly I suppose. I didn’t have it out on Memorial Day — and my ancestors have fought and died in every war since the French and Indian one. I do not support any more dying for Zionist Oligarchs. The ones who have ALWAYS seen themselves as “exceptional” to everyone else. And tell you so — over and over again.

BTW — I did fly the US flag on June 8th. It was the anniversary of the bombing of the USS Liberty. Thank you Russia for sending help which “exceptional” Americans didn’t do for their countrymen. This “old-Anglo” is wearing her hair-shirt, doing her penance and is praying to God for forgiveness and redemption. And the ZIOs are terrified that there are LOTS more like me around.

AGS

The old Anglos used to be called the WASPS, white Anglo Saxon protestants. I am one myself, but the non influential kind. Note the euphemism of influential for powerful. The USA was never overtly an empire. It was only the far left who would use the word imperialism. A different world. Baby Bush was the last WASP president. New England prep school, Harvard and Yale, ancestral pedigree, the lot.

The NSA scandal shows that now the USA is ruled by secret people whose identities and activities are classified.Whether they are WASPS or Neocons or something else can only be inferred.

Incompetent stooges are front men for people who are afraid to show their faces.

Nora said…16 June, 2014 01:16

American exceptionalism might be a recently made popular term for it, but what it describes has been around since the slavocracy called America began. Older terms for it are nationalist chauvinism, nationalist bigotry and similar. The American variety of the mental disease has been well known since that time, as well, since the Americans, true to form, have exhibited one of the more extreme infections of it.

This American debilitation is so pronounced in historical studies as to render American historical sources mostly useless, literally being at the same level as German goebellsian nazi era “history” material. In short, if it’s an American source, it’s useless as history. Even the US Naval Institute had to go to European sources mostly for their historical books on maritime/naval history because the material published in the USA was complete rubbish.