First, some rather amazing “housekeeping” news. I spoke with our webmaster today and he told me that our traffic is now about 10 MILLION pages served per month. On average, we have between 1’000 and 1’300 users connected to our servers at the same time. So the good news is that the blog is booming. The bad one is that this will pull our IT costs even further. However, thanks to the generous support from our Saker Community, right now we have the funds needed to pay for all this – so, again, a huge THANK YOU to all those who helped!
Now let’s turn to the news of the day.
Yesterday the Ukronazi authorities promised a major counter offensive. It did happen, but only in the virtual space. In real space there were a few very limited attacks which were quickly dealt with by the Russian/LDNR forces. The one success for the Ukrainians is an accurate MLRS strike on a Russian forward airfield near Kherson where at least three helicopters, 2 refueling trucks and 11 automobiles were hit and seen burning (no human losses). Remember that the Ukronazis still have Smerch/Tornado MLRS which have a max range of 90km, which allows them to strike very far away from Ukrainian lines and deep inside/behind Russian lines. The good news is that such MLRS rockets are not too hard to intercept. I don’t know what happened last night, but this incident suggests to me that Russia needs to bring in more air defenses to deal with this threat.
This attack on the airport was, apparently, part of that promised “major counter offensive” which, in spite of that successful strike, did not move forward by an inch.
Remember the Russian Black Sea Fleet ship “sunk” by the Ukie MLRS? Here it is entering the bay of Sevastopol today:
I would say that for a burned, sunken and, then, supposedly salvaged from the bottom of the sea, this ship seems to be in mint condition :-)
In the meantime, the White House is promising to send the Ukraine attack drones, longer-range anti-aircraft systems, 800 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, 9,000 anti-tank missiles and 7,000 small arms – plus 20 million rounds of ammunition.
Wait, did I read that correctly? Eight HUNDRED Stinger missiles sent to Nazis and Wahabis in the Ukraine and nobody in the entire EU has the brains to connect the dots and understand what that means for the EU?
As I said, the Eurorodents are suicidal, maybe I should call them the Eurolemmings?
This also begs the question of where all that hardware will go. My bet? Poland. And then most of it will stay there, and only small parties of hardware will be brought in. Why? Because any major weapons dump or concentration of forces will end up like the massive NATO base in Iavorov 24 hours ago.
Furthermore, 7’000 small arms pumped into a country where the Nazi regime has opened all its weapons stores to anybody who wants it will only make things worse… …for the Ukrainian people.
So, this is again the typical US American “feel good” PSYOPs which serve no other purpose than to obfuscate from the clueless public in Zone A what is really happening on the ground.
The same article brings some interesting statistics: “President Biden is expected to announce an additional $800 million in military aid for Ukraine, which would bring the total US support up to $1 billion in the last week alone, and more than $2 billion since Biden took office“.
Today, I want to conclude (maybe temporarily) with the following thought:
Since the Russian ultimatum late last year, all the Empire of Lies has done is double down, then double down again, then double up some more. Worse, it gave itself absolutely no room for negotiations by declaring that what it seeks is a total victory against Russia and “Putin” personally. Now consider this:
- The clear and unambiguous goal of the Empire of Lies is to “cancel Russia”
- Russia cannot take a single step backward, her back is to the proverbial wall
- No matter what Russia does, the Empire of Lies will double down, over and over again
- Russia has enough nuclear and conventional weapons to wipe out both the EU and the US
- The leaders of the Empire of Lies chose to pretend like they don’t know that or, alternatively, that Russia will never dare strike militarily at NATO and/or the USA
To me, this seems to be headed towards a full-scale military confrontation (conventional and nuclear) between the Empire of Lies and Russia.
Can that be avoided?
You tell me, and if you think it can, please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided.
Not by any action of the Eurolemmings, that is for sure. Then how (if at all)?
Thank you
Andrei
Post 1917: unstable equilibrium of two social systems and also among the big capitalist powers, leading the WW2.
Post 1945: a more stable equilibrium of the two social systems and especially among the big capitalist powers.
Post 1991: an increasingly destabilized equilibrium of all the big capitalist powers, now including Russia and China – leading to the present crisis.
The only stabilizing force in this entire period was a powerful socialist revolution.
All our confrontation is the end came; should not happen.
I have a wild idea. 1. Russia achieves all its objectives in Ukraine. 2. Instead of capitulation, Russia offers the world a better alternative to host the UN v2.0 – a neutral, de-militarised host-country that the whole world helps rebuild. 3. An UN made of of sovereign countries, not winners of a world war. 4. Then the confrontation will be over.
There will be Nothing but this charade of a war.
Putin and Biden have already long agreed on the new border.
Biden’s Oligarchs will be pissed: all those bribes and all Biden is willing to give them in return is Lies and Promises.
This hurts the brain to countenance but is very intriguing in the realm of possibilities.
“You tell me, and if you think it can, please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided.”
To answer your question…it can’t be avoided. Out of room to retreat, out of time to bargain. Zone B has to push through this at all cost, otherwise they’re dead. For some members in Zone B, perhaps dead in very large numbers.
Zone A is clearly in berserker mode. From where I sit, internal restraining forces are grossly unable. I’ll reemphasize. Un-a-ble. Look at regimentation of the public mind against undesirables even at the obvious cost of self-destruction. It’d take a few Hans and Sophie Scholl of White Rose to make themselves known. And like before – many tragic sacrifices.
Russians are the new designated targets for and I expect those of Chinese heritage are the next. Just like ‘the hesitant’ were up to the start of this crises. There’s no ‘let’s start over and make up’ after this. One zone has to decisively and unambiguously win and impose their reality on the other in a way that the losing side understands.
“Zone A is clearly in berserker mode.”
That is what they would want everyone, especially the Kremlin to believe, but their mode is more that of the spoilt child deprived of its sweets. If they were truly in berserker mode they would have attacked Russia militarily along time ago. No, they will not. They do not dare. And what we are seeing is total hysteria – think of it, you have had control over the world for the best part of 500 years, as the combined west, & now, for the first time seriously, that control is being challenged in the most fundamental way. When Russia intervened in Syria in 2015, the initial reaction of the west was a kind of shocked silence, they just couldn’t believe it, the idea that some other part of the world would launch foreign military operations was beyond their ability to grasp, at first. Then, when the reality set it, after a couple of months, the line in the west was what we have been hearing now: Russia will lose, Russia will get another Afghanistan in Syria, we the west will give Russia another Afghanistan, etc. etc. Then, after eight or nine months, when the tide of war had turned in the favour of the Syrian Arab Army, the west began to freak the f***k out. And the talk of no fly zones began. Russia lured them into diplomacy & deescalated the tensions, the war was eventually won. This is not the same, I’m not suggesting that, but the behaviour of the west follows a similar trajectory – they are in the hysteria phase, reality hasn’t set in but it will. Furthermore, when the economic effects of their own actions begin to effect them badly, they will go into melt down. My own feeling is that this will not escalate into a nuclear war but a disintegration of the western political establishment & the beginnings of a huge political & economic crisis in the west.
Yes. Agree. Great post.
According by Michael Baxter from Real Raw News – Brandon administration do not have a nuclear coded ball.. they are mad as hell…
I concur that the hegemon relentlessly continues to double down on its efforts to break Russia and then move in for the plunder. In my opinion, the US Deep State is unable to cease seeking the destruction of Russia; this behavior is deeply embedded in both its psychology and its DNA.
Whitney Webb just wrote a piece on how the CIA is now working to create an insurgency in the Ukraine to be unleashed against Russia. “ As the conflict between Ukraine and Russia continues to escalate and dominate the world’s attention, the increasing evidence that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is and has been working to create and arm an insurgency in the country has received considerably little attention considering its likely consequences. This is particularly true given that former CIA officials and a former Secretary of State are now openly saying that the CIA is following the “models” of past CIA-backed insurgencies in Afghanistan and Syria for its plans in Ukraine. Given that those countries have been ravaged by war as a direct result of those insurgencies, this bodes poorly for Ukraine.”
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/03/investigative-reports/ukraine-and-the-new-al-qaeda/
There is only one option for Russia, it must break the Hegemon and its NATO vassals.
Young mother witness that Azov blew up Dramatheater with civvies inside
https://m.readovka.news/news/91213
Sorry to say but the only way to avoid a confrontation between NATO countries (in primis US and UK) and Russia is a dramatic escalation of Russian military operations with annihilation of any military or civilian resistance in Ukraine.Then diplomatic discussion. Any strategy or tactic prolonging the military confrontation goes in the direction to increase likelihood of a conflict escalation. Outcomes in such case will be terrific for all, including EU and Russia
To prevent a nuclear conflagration, China needs to get involved. It’s because the Anti-Russian hysteria is an expression of a bully mentality towards Russia that exists based on the belief that Russia is fundamentally weak. These bullies think that Russia is just punching above its weight and can be put in its place without endangering themselves. That would change with China getting involved because towards China there is an inferiority complex.
Unfortunately, the Chinise government does not seem to think along such lines.
Mr. K,
I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion about China stepping up and “walking the talk,” so to speak.
I advocate that China has to make an appropriate military response and involve themselves in the Black Sea Region conflict. I am not saying they should engage in the fight but simply berth one or two of their naval warships in Sevastopol.
They can use the excuse they are on a ‘courtesy visit’ in compliance with Article 17 of the Montreaux Convention of 1936. The presence of China in Crimea will be a visible factor that affects the calculus of Washington DC’s ongoing propaganda campaign that continually harasses Russia.
Russia needs China to show its support beyond smiles and handshakes and tell the west the Dragon has no fear of Washington’s bluster. If the U.S. can sail unabashed through the Taiwan Strait so can China make port in the Crimean Federal District of the Russian Federation.
Excellent idea. They must know if Russia falls then they, and Iran, are next.
However the Chinese government is too cautious I feel.
Since March 12 “Azov” and “legal” government of Mariupol were focring civilian hostages intho the city theatre, full with explosive.
https://t.me/novostldnr/2145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lsoeopuJm8
Today they blasted the explosives and the hostages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFHeGgPo9w
https://tochka.press/2022/03/16/76680/
Discovered this website and others (SF, MoA, ecc..) just at the beginning of conflict, when first reports and MSM infos seemed to me….a little bit “unrealistic” (to be more than fair).
It was a great discover, I thank you Saker and all of contributors/collaborators.
I’m from northern Italy (very close to Ghedi military base…guess you heard about) and I can report that the level of craziness of average joes about the “evil-crazy-stupid-etc Putin” is really skyrocketing in these days, pumped by newspapers/TV that shout only of Russian shelling, economic crises cause by Putin, innocent civilians murdered, refugees and so on….
But I can also say that not ALL the people are in that mood; as many were sick and tired of all Covid restrictions and alarmism, more or less the same “kind” of people are now angry at government and the stupid blind faith on whatever US/EU want us to do.
I heard some questions arising among them: why can’t we decide by ourself, make business and trade with Russia and other countries, stay out of military affairs and think for our interests?
A little improvement of course, unfortunately not heard by our so called politicians; by the way, we don’t have any of them since a long time, just muppets of European banks.
My try about the question “*how* this outcome can be avoided.”
Russia should make long period economic sanctions: export ban, oil/gas cut, no commodities, etc…against EU.
That will lower the living standard, US and EU will not be in position to help the economy of any country.
This will lead to riots and social disorder that will have to be solved internally.
So two ways:
– society cracks, war and who knows…..
– chaos will drive towards a leadership generated by that chaos and supported by that “angry” people which think for primary needs and for the good of their country. In this second case, my hope is that leadership should come before any other US/bank muppet of any kind….
My two euro cents
thanks Saker without you we in the west would have little reliable news.
Stay strong Russian friends, we are working to put the true picture out.
My country is lost, I see no future. Remember you are the victims of lies and evil.
President Putin is a remarkable leader ,trust in him he knows what he is up against.
Victory is not far away.
An excellent interview of Alistair Crooke by Tom Luongo, well worth the listen, here:
https://tomluongo.me/2022/03/15/podcast-episode-100-alistair-crooke-russia-war-independence/
(1hr 20 mins)
The first 30 mins are very good at explaining the Russian point of view. Well worth passing around.
Hello Andrew,
First of all thank you for all you’ve done. Sometimes the amount of information out there is so much, specially of western propaganda, that is difficult to think clear headed, but your insights and those of your guests have helped me cool my head down. I would also like to apologize because even though I’ve been reading from your efforts since 2014, I have not taken the time to thank you properly.
I am not a strategist, but in the past I have been able to draw my own conclusions that have been spot on. I believe that the US is only posturing and likes to posture a lot, I also beleive that the elites will never go in to a full nuclear confrontation with Russia, they are unhinged, yes, but for them the loss of their creature comforts is unbearable and would never settle for mere survival, they do not know “hard times”. They will not be willing to accept such an outcome even if they beleive they could inflict more harm.
I think that the Russian leadership already knows better than any of us what to do, they planned for every scenario, and if you and me could have had some insight or contemplated the actual situation months ago, then I know much more so Putin and all of his advisors. They know who they are dealing with and have taken their measure. They probably have many options left on how to deal with them.
Now from my limited perspective, analytic capabilities etc… I would take this news of the US supplying AA systems to Ukraine and threaten them with unthinkable escalation, stating that you would destroy any site that has such systems even on NATO territory, and if there is retaliation then nuclear exchange would be the next step. As you say you can not back away, it is an existential threat and this might end up in a nuclear war anyway, why not make the play for it under your terms and not theirs? I beleive they would start going in reverse, slowly at first, but it would culminate in their capitulation with some barter from them with Russia under the table so that they do not lose that much face. I know it is a big risk, but the way you have established things are going under your perspective I do not see much choice, the question here is if Putin has the support to make something like that happen in Russia, I don’t know, will his military back him or would they themselves capitulate to the West and do a coupe, after all anyone that negotiates with the West coupe could have a very big bargaining position. I know it sounds insane, but this is taking tacitly the scenario you’ve established.
Like I wrote before, I think that Russia already has this worked out and requires patience and the West will capitulate in the end.
Let me apologize for my redaction but English is my second language.
Thank you for everything.
What if the empire of lies have some ase up their sleeve. I am thinking along the lines of some secret technology, like directed energy weapon, the type used on 9/11. Please see Judy Wood’s book, “Where did the towers go” for more serious info about this.
From what came into the open Russia seems to have bested the empire of lies with their weapons. But if the objective is a population reduction, at a massive scale, then the globalists agenda is being played, probably thinking that they can end it anytime with their secret DEW weapon.
La WW1 & WW2 c’était les juifs derrière, la WW3 sera causée par le deepstate et Israël qui sont des juifs sataniques. Suivez le discours de l’acteur zelensky le juif devant le congres rouge et bleu ( 16.03.2022 ), vous allez peut être comprendre que les vrais causes de l’inévitable Ww3 (du jamais vue) a venir ça sera causée par des juifs sataniques, c’est leur plan.
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WW1 & WW2 were the Jews behind, WW3 will be caused by the deepstate and Israel which are satanic Jews. Follow the speech of the actor zelensky the Jew in front of the red and blue congress ( 16.03.2022 ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNFC7IWXQfo&ab_channel=FoxNews
you will perhaps understand that the real causes of the inevitable Ww3 (never seen before) to come will be caused by satanic Jews, it’s their plan.
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The simple fact that the néo cons want a war when NATO is very far from having an upper hand in this war is exhibiting a very high incompetence.
I think that the Pentagon will not agree with a full war.
Yes the use of the poles as cannon fodder is evident but I am not sure that despise their hatred against Russia the Poles will engage a direct war.
The incompetence is also very evident in the measures taken in the domain of the economic war which not only backfired immediately but gave the opportunity to Russia to leave some néo liberal practices and to restore the control of its money. The Rubble will be used internally under the control of the Central Federal Bank for investments in order to be quite self suffisant.
And externally there is no way that monetary measure could hinder the sell of high needed commodities by Russia
And if the empire of lies want to continue to subdue the UE states a military defeat of NATO in Europe must fully avoided
A question. In this video you can see a flag, in the yellow and blue of the Ukrainian flag, but with a different pattern: a central yellow circle, and yellow and blue “rays”. Could someone provide some cultural background? Thank you.
https://youtu.be/q5MyOwMmnKg
Looks almost like it mixes Donetsk city/oblast flag with some Soviet ukrainian flags
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Donetsk_Oblast
https://www.metroflags.com/regional-provincial-flags/ukrainian-regional-flags/
1) please, mark the time!!! should everyone watch the whole video frame by frame, to find a ingle split moment that got your curiosity?
2) https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0
USSR Air Force
You could deduce where to search for by lot of Soviet red banners around.
Can nuclear war be avoided?
As many have pointed out before me, the longer the operation in Ukraine drags on, the bigger the risk that something/someone will escalate things too far whether by accident or on purpose.
NATO is pumping in both weapons and personell across the border and I would dare to say that the Romanian border is probably even more interesting than the Polish one thanks to the terrain which provides more frequent cloud cover.
Even if Russia would be able to score a quick and decisive victory in the coming weeks it will be very hard to secure this entire border – but if Russia can do those two things; i.e. eliminate Ukrainian armed forces down to the last nazi and hermetically seal the border and destroy anything that sticks its nose across the wire – then there is a good chance that whatever public opinion supporting direct intervention there is will quickly dissipate.
I’m not sure if total economic war against the EU would have the opposite effect or not, but my gut feeling tells me that if Russia could get food and energy prices to double or triple from current levels there would be no one here able to fight any damn war – can’t do that while freezing and starving at the same time. Check mate.
PS. I know many might not agree but why, for the love of God, did Putin not do this special operation back in 2014? Kept on rolling after Crimea? The Ukrainian army was complete garbage and would have crumbled like stale bread.
The saner elements of the Ukraine army (think Chechnya) will keep the riff raff out. Russia does not have to do it. All those soldiers who laid down their arms and went home, smart fellas, they have a job waiting for them once the Special Military Operation is over and it turns to a Military Police Operation. They will have Russian advisors, get specialized training by Russia but Ukrainians will police Ukraine. Guerrillas will be caged and put on public display…..if they are lucky. More like a cowboy…..shoot, shovel, shut up. Once the de nazify nears completion, most important part of this operation, more Ukrainians will come forward and want to take part in what lies ahead.
Cheers M
It is not the time yet to escalate to that level. First things first.
The operation in Ukraine must proceed, and with changes of plans, if necessary. Important to get to Odessa, and go real hard there. Everyone who should have left, already has. What has remained there, is not to be spared.
The diplomats can continue the peace talks, coming up with as many numerous details as possible. If they can hold it for weeks, and months, it’ll be helpful.
Preparation, economical and strategic inside the country, and with allies. Lots of things to be done here, and silently.
At this stage, and with the way things turned out, it would be stupid to even consider any agreement with the West regarding Ukraine. They had agreements and 8 years of time – now, it should no longer be an option. And prepare for a prolonged stay. Anyone who believes the troops can simply clean up and go home, is naive. That was possible in the past, it is no longer. The West has clearly shown their intentions, and the masks fell. So, what should be the future for Ukraine, what territories will form the new Ukraine and under what status and connection with RF, and what will eventually happen with Galicia – all these need practical consideration. Secure first, what has been taken or what is within reach, before venturing further.
Time is not at the West’s side.
Not sure what China will do, but it is most probable they’ll go for uniting Taipei. They see a lot of malicious activity going on and know they have to act soon to stop it. China has no option here – they’ll go in, perhaps even before June.
There are many stages before a war goes hot. It can be asymmetrical, hybrid, and in many levels. For Europe, it is only a matter of time before the cracks and splits become too much to handle. Eastern Europe is still salvageable, the western part should be forgotten.
I appreciated this post.
Saker, May I ask why we can’t have upvote/ downvote? Just curious. I think It’s good to acknowledge posts. Just curious.
It is a beautiful sight seeing Василий Быков return to home port. Wish they had some pomp to welcome them home.
As for nuclear war, I think it is a possibility. I think if there are Officers like MacGregor in the Pentagon, then it shouldn’t happen. I am sure there are those like him still serving. This leaves me with the hope that they are puffing their chest out and then deflating to take a breath, only to repeat the exercise. There is no way anything, other than what Russia wants will happen in Ukraine.
US made the mistake by pushing for the conflict and refusing diplomacy. They made the mistake of breaking laws with bioweapon labs and making Ukraine defacto NATO and training an army there. They were breaking laws by preparing an offensive on the Donbass. They were the ones supporting a 8 year war on the Donbass. Going nuclear? That’s game over. Very stupid…
I think they’re insane. Did you see the West even came out with Ukro-Fascist Legos. Complete with Molotov petrol bombs. Wonderful. Who the F*** would buy that for their kids? West is lost. Mariupol will fall then the Russian networks will have thousands of people giving testimony against Azov.
The link to the video is not working for me. Here is another one:
“Destroyed and sunk” by Ukrainian propaganda
Mar 16, 2022
yvonne lee
“Destroyed and sunk” by Ukrainian propaganda, the patrol ship “Vasily Bykov” of project 22160 of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy entered Sevastopol today after completing tasks at sea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZKXP5sn0E
Full-scale military confrontation can be avoided. Russia has to show skill and resolve, put whole Ukraine under control as soon as possible. But what if that train has already left the station?
Realistically the only option for Putin, if Nato gets involved, is to send the USA and Europe back to the stone age with the use of 5 strategically detonated 1 megaton nukes that explode 150-300 miles above America and Europe. The EMP would destroy all command and control structures while keeping buildings and infrastructure in place and not immediately kill the general population, but exactly how the civilian population would react to this new reality is another story.
I’m 60ys/o my entire life, every year of it, has been watching the empire destroy that which it could not control, if it can’t control the planet…
God didn’t put us on this earth to live without hope, but I’m an atheist and believe that the battle over good and evil is just the struggle over the communion of our species. If we fail we go extinct.
Hard to believe I’m saying this but if we make it through this crisis it’s because saner minds in the Pentagon prevail. That’s about it, flip a coin.
Eurolemmings could step in but sadly 1) they’re lemmings so we know how that all ends 2) they’ve sold themselves to the US (as usual) so don’t have the backbone to take alternative route 3) They are now completely undone by their own insane and hysterical press, the whole ‘cancel Russia’ that they cannot possibly now turn around and say ‘actually we should help negotiate a resolution to the conflict and create a neutral arena for further deconfliction and negotiation. That is something only big boys can do, wearing big boy pants – diplomats, statesmen etc There are non in Europe – so they are now trapped by their own propaganda and lies. Maybe the Russians will have to demilitarise a couple of Countries in Europe to get them and the US to see how bad things can get for both?
Scott Ritter thinks that the danger lies in NATO Article 4 – that western powers might be used it to create a safe zone for all the refugees fleeing the war.
I also read that the Hungarian minority in Ukraine is preparing a referendum to ask Hungary to annex their home to Hungary – to avoid the dangers of the war. Another opportunity to get NATO in – but also one that would guarantee that Ukraine will continue shrinking. I don’t think the Kiev would be on board with that.
Of course – if Hungary just waits, they can probably pick up that region peacefully. I don’t think Russia would object.
I feel and hope full scale confrontation can be avoided, but I fear moderate scale can’t.
The westerners are very fierce warriors, ready to fight up to the last ukrainian. Even as some of the less stupid globalists (say Macron, for example ) seem to have understood the bear cannot afford to back down.
Right now, the consequences in the west are a very active newsfeed that changes us from the CoviD topics, some anecdotes about fights somewhere in the east that involve evil darkputin guys versus the mighty ghost of Kiev and sneaky Wali (who apparrently was not sneaky enough), an increase in cost of living for deplorables (who commute by car) and a pleasant feeling of smugness and resistance from behind your keyboard for the bourgeois bloc (who charge their Teslas and work on Gmeet). It’s factually true that Russian counter-sanctions are unfortunately hurting the most russophile segments of western society (yellow vest deplorables, people who invested ro create economic links to Russia), while sparing the russian-haters.
I however think that the “social elites” in Brussels, Berlin or Washington will only back down if their hostile behaviors starts carrying a blood price for THEIR social group, the only one they have empathy towards. So far, for western socialites, spitting on Russia is risk free carreer advancing move. This is the parameter that has to (and will) change if some confrontation happens
I can see no solution here, I live in Italy and I tell you all people, everyday, are brought to war, even antiwar people, through a heavy scientific propaganda.
Anytime this happen- I think about 1939- there is no way out.
Europe has just lost any possibility of thinking, they entered a mental tunnel, they are going straight to their suicide, exactly the same as 1939 in Italy.
If we then talk about USA, I just saw a video of a congress standing ovation to mr.ZE, special guest of the congress theatre.
Man, it’s clear.
Nato is gonna attack very soon, maybe through a false flag like in Syria, maybe they even don’t care anymore about false flags, they don’t need it anymore, all western population has been just heavily brainwashed, they really think that peace can only be obtained obliterating Russia.
There is no way back.
And obviously Nato is going to lose and EU has already lost, showing their real face and showing what they are after: suicide.
As a German I would not mind much if Berlin was flattened.
Little good has ever come out of Prussia, and generally they tended to make the rest of Germany suffer for their version of (militaristic) exceptionalism (“Old Fritz” type stories of invincibility).
It would be rather lamentable to lose the Museumsinsel, though.
They say some of the old artifacts in the Egyptology museum are genuine.
The most famous, Nefertiti, however, is a rather obvious fakery. There we go again…
Trigger a wider war in Middle East to quickly spike the price of oil beyond what the western financial system can handle. This would need to be done via carefully staged false flag attacks to create plausible deniability. And would need some agreement among the relevant parties that now is the time to launch all missiles to settle all scores. The Wests weakness is its pocket book, massive debt, unreal asset valuations. Oil is our lifeblood, speed up the economic pain process and political will to attack anyone should fade quickly in favor of battening down the hatches to weather the storm. Yes, it would hurt everyone, many would be killed which is terrible, but it’s better than the alternative of global suicide via nuclear war.
I think it is doable. And I think is beeing considered. May be the very recent tir from the Houthis to Saudi Arabia is the beginning of such a process…who knows?
I don’t think American leadership will hesitate if it’s bad for Ukrainian people or the peoples of Europe – as this will be blamed on Ruseia.
Being cynical, I’d suggest rhey’ll wreak havoc to give Russia a real bad name.
Just like oh, youre burning down your neighbour’s house? Wait, I’ll burn down the entire village as everybody saw your arson.
“please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided.”
I. The US plan is to weaken/cripple Russia, NOT to engage in a direct war.
II. Russia can
(a) simply accept this, redraw the map, and redirect its economy towards China/India/etc. This should include a new joint reserve currency and an official alliance with China and others.
AND/OR
(b) raise the stakes to really bring the threat of war home to the citizens of Europe/US by nuclear brinksmanship(i.e. raising the DefCon level to just below the point of actual war)…openly floating nuclear equipped subs off the coast of DC and UK, etc.
Plan A seems the most sound since it accepts that the relationship with West is over and simply moves forward. Plan B is more about attempting to bring the threat home to the peoples of the West who think this is all a game and thereby cause a change in our domestic politics.
Nuclear war is not inevitable…we can just slip into another Cold War.
OK, here’s my two bits. How to prevent a U.S./NATO vs Russia nuclear war. Russia must activate its deadhand switch. That is Posiedon drones with who knows how many megaton nuclear warheads, laying at the bottom of the sea, 100 miles off each major coastal city of the U.S.
Second, fire those nuclear tipped and nuclear powered cruise missiles that are able to stay airborne for 6 weeks. Fly them around Washington D.C., New York, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles, and of course, the London, Berlin, Rome, Paris crowd. One could even put in a line to the Vegas bookies who gets nuked first.
Once the above is accomplished, have Vlad give Joe a friendly call at the White House to advise him of what’s going on.
Third, take out every CNN, MSNBC, CBS, mainstream media satellite. That will have the effect of “quieting” things down. Everyones stress level will immediately go down.
Taking down the satellites would be awesome. Every ass crack among us would be separated from their hive mind. I don’t watch ANY of that crap anyway. I’m sure most here don’t.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/colonel-douglas-macgregor-putin-has-already-defeated-ukraine/
Please give a description about your link and your own comment in future. Any other will go to trash. Mod.
Looking at the past for the future predictor then here is what i see………Crimea population added to the Russian economy and defense, Belarus firmly now added to Russian economy and defense. The greater Donbass (Novorussia) can be added to the Russian economy and defense. Russia has only just begun.
It will take a year or so to stabilise the greater Donbass and then what? I would suggest that all options are on the table. There will not be a nuclear exchange simply stated US/NATO has no options against Russia all they can do is surrender.
The PR war is actually being won by Russia, no one in the West believes a word they are being told. The Empire of lies is over, they have been outsmarted and outgunned by Zone B. This is a reality that Zone A knows very well.
Should Russia just pulverize all along Ukraine’s border with Poland to sever Ukraine from Poland?
Saker said in a previous post that bunker busting bombs were expensive, yet it would also be good opportunity to test some of them, especially if Russia has USSR maps of the bunkers which were built.
I don’t know why Russia would get rid of its chemical weapons when U.S. has not.
Syria was threatened with bombing to destroy its chemical weapons. I believe this was for the U.S. to make Syria safer to war on and bomb for Israel, Turkey, U.S. soldiers, etc.
I think Gonzalo Lira had it down as far as the rather quiet response of Nato to the Russian devastating attack on the Nato base in western Ukraine. No matter how many weapons they send to the Ukies the war is over in the Ukraine & what remains is to finish up getting rid of the Nazis. The more complicated problem for Russia lies in the aftermath, the reorganization of the Ukraine which will require close attention by the RF. I don’t think there will be a confrontation between Russia & the US, each side knows, especially the US, that the result will be total catastrophe. This is a skirmish in the global realignment of centers of military/economic power & spheres of influence.
News from Karkov – false Flag attempt?
ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRJ4umS7dJA
Thanks for the update. Russia’s alternatives to taking the east of Ukraine/Dneper river for a minimum of five years to weed out war criminals are few.
As to global thermonuclear war, apart from a tiny number that think that reducing the earth’s population by a few billion is a good idea, nobody has an incentive to go down that route. As time moves on, stories will appear to flesh out, from Ukranian and other civilian populations, the real stories of the progress of the action.
h ttps://odysee.com/UkraineMercSpeaksOut:81abdb6146542ea262f38e95d8bc65f8cfa590cf?src=embed
Escalation dominance?
Political courtiers, media, MIC lobbyists speak as if and perhaps actually believe NATO (US) has dominance of all kinds (from which escalation dominance must follow).
At some point NATO will either dip a toe in with an accidental missile firing or fighter incursion, or SAMs stationed an inch on the Polish side of the border, or something still more aggressive in response to a false flag.
To help the Western ‘colleagues’ grasp certain strategic realities–a) that Russia would have the nerve to strike; b) that RF has a capability to do so that cannot be countered–after the first RF / NATO incident clearly documented on each side, Russia makes a live statement to worldwide media:
1) Explaining calmly the educational purpose regarding points a & b above, Russia has designated a single target (for example, one of UK QE2 aircraft carrier; Polish ‘defensive’ ABM site; NATO HQ Brussels; Estonian airbase) and gives X interval of time to evacuate the target. Enough time to bring media resources in to film the event, perhaps. 2 hours?
2) Announce that after said interval, RF will punch a Khinzal without warhead through the target, and will consider the matter closed if NATO does not attempt to reciprocate.
More of a limited duelling strategy–property but not blood–than actual exchange of salvos.
Even the most blatant, Russophobic, pro-Ukrainian military news websites are now admitting that Mariupol is going to fall. I won’t state the name of the most blatant, pro-Ukrainian, anti-Russian military analysis site (most of us probably know of it). But it’s NOW acknowledging that Mariupol will follow, possibly in a week.
The pro-Ukrainian, anti-Russian media world is preparing their public following in advance for the pending disaster. They are getting ready for the drop of the axe.
It’s really going to happen: the first large scale Ukrainian Nazi military defeat of the war. Mariupol.
I have two questions. First, does anyone know how many Ukrainian Nazi troops are likely to be captured at Mariupol? 10,000? 5,000? Second, after the liquidation of the Nazi pocket at Mariupol, how many thousands of Russian troops will be freed for use on other fronts?
Had heard up to 14,000 initially; probably many less will be captured.
A few random riffs on some topics hit on here:
On upcoming elections – every year of my life I’ve only seen US presidents go from bad to worse, from stupid to imbecile. Richard Nixon was the last good president the USA had, now think about that, how crazy that is?
Dmitry Orlov stated that he could see Russia abrogating the LNTBT and setting off an above ground ‘test’ soon as a final warning. IMO China and Russia need to form a mutual strategic nuclear defense pact. Terrible idea ostensibly but reality is that USA since Cold War times has always intended to take both out if it ever got into a strategic nuclear exchange with either. China and Russia know this.
From the beginning of this war NATO/USA realized that the Russian army had one real weakness, its determination not to hit civilian targets. The West has been hitting that weakness relentlessly with everything it’s got. That’s what you are seeing develop across the entire theater. Nice people the West, but all is fair in war.
Something’s up behind it all, why at this stage West keeps pumping in weapons even though Ukraine is saturated with them and keep winding up the already hysterical rhetoric even though its obvious this will end soon in Russia’s favor. The Ukrainians are fighting much, much too hard, it can’t just be unbridled courage and Nazi squadron blind hate. I refuse to believe there are that many mindless death cult nazis troops at every encounter, and there are many. Seems Ukrainian army has strict orders to hold out at all cost, that something is coming, that the West is buying time for some bigger plan. Hopefully it’s just Wunderwaffen crap and the Empire of Chaos is just upping the chaos hoping that out of the rubble will come something in their favor. Otherwise it’s WW3.
Nice to find some intelligent discourse here.
Great post.
“USA since Cold War times has always intended to take both out if it ever got into a strategic nuclear exchange with either”.
Daniel Ellsberg saw this with his own eyes in the 1960s:
“Many operations and plan centers and command posts in Okinawa, Formosa, Guam, and Tokyo, and on several carriers and command ships in the Pacific that I visited, had a large map showing nuclear targets. It was their most secret map, usually covered by a screen or curtain when people who lacked authorization (unlike me) were being briefed in the room. These maps, typically, did not demarcate at all between China and Russia. The Sino-Soviet bloc appeared as one giant landmass, with arrows and pins indicating the various targets…
All these factors combined to create a situation in which, if we were under attack, it would be simply physically impossible to retaliate against Russian or Chinese targets alone, even if the president ordered his forces to do so…
“I never found anyone in Washington who had any idea that there was this kind of problem”.
– Daniel Ellsberg, “THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE: CONFESSIONS OF A NUCLEAR WAR PLANNER”
I heard a lot of the Nazi troops initially escaped up to Volnovakha (which was also subsequently captured) when the northern evac route still existed. I’m sure in Volnovakha many of them died but many still escaped further north towards their Donetsk groupings. How many remain in Mariupol hard to say and not sure if they’ll surrender or all be killed. If most of them are killed then you likely won’t hear much about it because as you probably have noticed Russia doesn’t do much in the way of showing off corpses as trophies. So even if the remaining thousands all die, you will likely simply hear of the Mariupol capture and nothing more, and it will leave us with questions as to how many escaped/died. That is the down side to Russia’s ethical decision not to overtly showcase enemy troop deaths. If a mass amount of them surrender though, then we might see some video of that.
I too have heard 14,000 but not sure if that was BEFORE a large amount of them evac’d to Volnovakha. It doesn’t feel like there’s a lot left from what I’ve seen. If I had to guess I’d say only a few thousand or less but I could be completely wrong. I’m just going by the fact that there doesn’t appear to be huge large scale combat going on in the city but small groupings of urban warfare on certain streets / districts. It doesn’t FEEL like an entire division going up against another division which would be the case if there was 15-20k on each side. It feels more like brigade vs. brigade from the footage I’ve seen, but that could be misleading as the footage released doesn’t show everything, and could be showing just a fraction of the real action.
In short, you tell me that we are heading towards a time when inhaling air is problematic and dangerous. Eating will be optional then. You eat and you die from poisoning and cancer. You don’t eat, you die later from hunger. I forgot water. Of course, nasty chemicals and disseminated bio weapons will make sure that the fun won’t stop there.
I wish I were living in a nuclear bomb target and a that moment, I’ll be standing on a roof. Sudden death is better than going through the above mentioned difficulties.
A way to avoid that hell would be much welcome for me.
I wish I knew a way to wake up people from the idea that reality is created in our minds. I wish I knew a way to tell people the difference between a lie and a truth. That art has been lost in the west. I wish I could make insanity only a painful state of mind not the proof that one is the vanguard of humanity on the path towards utopia on Earth. In the West, we are being told and our kids being taught that the mad, the fool, the stupid, the junkie, the lazy and so on is the star we all should follow to attain the better future they’re building for us. Our place is to admit how much guilty of being logic, hard working, rigorous, friendly, reliable and so on we should feel. The grand prize is the ability to create together reality, the belief that we can mold the world into the potential that the fools, the mad, the crazies see for us in their nightmares. The end result is supposed to be perfection on Earth, each human lives in harmony with each human. A junkie telling me how to have a healthy lifestyle would make more sense to me.
I do not have any idea out of that thing. I only can describe what we are up to.
I cling to an idea: “Love yourself as much as you love others”. I feel it to be a way out. Alas, it is here, in the bad spot we are, completely meaningless. I do not even know for sure that my description of this madness is relevant.
Reformulating your question: “Any idea ? Anybody ?” I need help on that one.
China has a lot of financial pull with Israel and India is the largest importer of Israeli military equipment. All three have excellent commercial and diplomatic relations. China is headed for economic supremacy, and does not want its economic momentum slowed down by war on the Euro continent, and India and Israel have no desire to be caught in the middle of a full-blown war between Russia and the U.S. How about if China decided to draw up a U.N. Resolution with Israel and India recognizing Crimea as Russian Territory, the Donbass as Independent and Ukraine as having the same status as Switzerland?
Then all three could go about selling it to their respective allies at the UNGA. These three working together might make something happen.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/3951 – reportedly, first days of Mariupol storm, Azov destroys Donetsk’s T-64 tank, one of the crea is seen escaping, but perhaps only one
https://t.me/zheltyeslivy/41121 – reportedly Ukrainian refugee in Rome subway proudly proclaiming being fascist is not delighted to see people from Bangladesh in Europe.
The attacker speaks Russian but with some errors in both grammar and pronunciation consistent with “Ukrainian” version. Example, “what are you swinging [your arms] at me” should be “что ты тут мне мAшешь?” (caps syllable – the stressed vowel) despite initial verb form is “махAть” not “мAшaть”. Badly speaking Russian would synthesize ad hoc “что ты мне тут мaхAешь”?
Yet the attacker, probably disconnected from normal spoken Russian, instead says “мАхаешь” which is very unnatural for Russian ear.
They guy is not vey coherent, nor is his spelling clean, so can’t translate more.
Can’t stop remembering another video from Berlin subway.
Dear Europeans, for years you were professing your love to them, so take ALL of them please.
And, surely, waiting Italian “Free” media bursting with reports of Rome citizens terrorized by bloody Putin’s Russian barbarians.
“Can that be avoided?”
Yes. I believe it can. And will be.
First, whatever American politicians say or do is always aimed at a domestic audience, even if the subject is one of a clearly foreign policy nature. In this case, the Biden administration is desperate to be seen to be strong and decisive in order to shore up those crippling approval ratings, so their PR people have come up with a script that they believe will go down well with the US public. That’s who these statements are aimed at first and foremost.
With the crucial congressional elections later this year, everyone else in US politics is weighing in, according to what their spin doctors told them to say. It’s largely just domestic posturing.
They say they will provide so much of this and so much of that. I’ll believe it when I see it. Remember the moldy and unsafe Igla’s the Germans sent? I don’t see any of this leading us closer to WW3 as none of these have a significant battlefield impact, even if they are sent.
Then there’s the time issue. Just as the people on this board do, the decision makers in the west know just how badly things are going for the Ukrainians. Mitt Romney may believe the Russians are bogged down, but I seriously doubt that that is the prevailing opinion in the Pentagon. By the time those weapons Biden talked about could make it to the front in meaningful quantities (if they are sent at all), it will be blatantly obvious to everyone that Ukraine has lost and that whatever fighting is still going on will be the mopping up kind.
I believe that the White House and the rest of NATO are playing for time. They’ve become victims of their own propaganda regarding Ukraine’s successes and Russia’s alleged defeats and setbacks. Their domestic audiences can’t fully rhyme that narrative with NATO’s apparent inaction and Zelensky’s ever more desperate pleas for help. So western leaders talk a lot but its mostly just empty air. They DON’T want to intervene but need a clear and decisive reason not to which they can sell to their own constituents (like a fait accompli). In the end, it’s all about poll numbers and reelections for these western politicians, even when WW3 is in play.
So no, I’m no longer that concerned about the risk that this will spill out of control.
And regarding the Eurolemmings in particular, over the last week they have come to realize that without Russian grain products and fertilizer, Europe will starve. So even if they believe that they can beat Russia militarily, and even if they believe they can keep a conflict from going nuclear, they know that even then, they will still lose because Europe will starve. That doesn’t even take all the other Russian commodities that Europe’s economy needs to stay alive into account.
Russia holds a non-military gun to Europe’s head and they know it.
The joker in the deck is the imminent end of the petrodollar. It’s hard to predict how the US will react to losing their main source of income. As its demise is likely to be gradual, my money is on increasing infighting within the US for the remaining scraps and not with a big nuclear bang.
Wise choice to avoid war would beTulsi Gabbard, she seems to be aware of the danger but would the war party MIC allow her to candidate?-
In a word, no.
All USA presidets win electons calling for peace. Obama, Trump, all.
Then they sit onto the throne and start as many wars as they can.
Regardless the reasons of their turncoatism, what makes you think Tulsi would act other way?
Even Zelensky got elected calling for peace. Not being a Trump fan, but in his defence it must be said he did not start any new wars. The martyring of Soleiman on his watch actually ended the EoL.
First of all: Lira has pointed out that after the Reddit mercenary bombing the NATO got suspicious quiet about sending MIGs from Poland over there. He suspects that NATO Command saw none of the Kalibrs coming. Like they was absolute BLIND and so all the Redditors had no warning time whatsoever, before the real world Bannhammer hits them. And that has makes the NATO command quite sober how a actual hot conflict with Russia would fare.
And therefore: Hot WW III will not happen, pretty easy actually: Before NATO will be able to assemble enough Troops to actual DO something meaningful to the Special operation force. Russia AND China will go full Sanction on the West. Like “You got NOTHING, not even hot air” sanctions. This will cause so sever disruption inside the US and especially the EU that they plain would not be able to assemble even a token force to do anything in Ukraine.
And i don’t mean that they have no Gasoline or Food for the Troops anymore, i meant that the total sanctions will crater the economic and essential commodities (i don’t mean the stock gambler term here, i mean REAL commodities like: medicine, food, Gasoline, Energy, toilet paper, Cooking oil you name it) in Europe so drastically that public order will break and Riots will take place all over Europe. that will make the Euro elite rodents unable to assemble anything but their bug out Cashgrab and let them flee to the Holy land of America, where things might not THAT bad.
And if any EU Force insane enough to actually try something, they will be Bannhammerd too and nobody would care, because they are to occupied by running away from the Lynchmob.
The US will be then impose more Sanctions from Hell and will do nothing else. Any attempt to launch Missiles on Russia will be sabotaged by the sane officers inside of the US armed forces.
The business of the US is war, and winning a war is measured by how much profit is generated. Accordingly Iraq and Afghanistan were huge wins.
As long as the wars are fought somewhere else, of course. Europe as a battleground would be just fine as it would eat up Russian resources (one of the many ideas behind actions in Ukraine) and provide additional profit for US arms sales to NATO as well as “justification” for ever more rapidly escalating “defense” budgets.
It is not the politicos who are running things in the US, it is Hudson’s oligarchies (MIC, energy, and finance). US politicians just obey orders. Between the three oligarchies (beacuse of the focus on foreign policy I am ignoring the “health” insurance / pharmaceutical oligarchy), as well as the various components within each, there is both cooperation and competiton. For example Boeing competes with Lockheed and McDonnell, but all share a common interest in producing military goods, so all support military action. It should be noted that these corpoartions (and many others) that are part of the MIC are also part of the unelected, black-budget, oversight-free intelligence complex (the deep state or shadow government). Most of the people in the intellignce “community” are civilian contractors supplied by corporations.
With the profit motive clear the question becomes how far will they go? Clearly, the business model is both highly profitable and suicidially stupid. While Russia’s military abilities appear to have been underestimated, I think the US military knows all too well that direct war with Russia is at best a no-win scenario. Accordingly the goal is a long-term quagmire type engagement (that the US is so fond of) to economically bleed Russia to death. Indirect economic attrition (the Cold War) killed the USSR, and the US brass probably thinks they can do it again (while making huge bank).
What the US seems not to have anticipated is the rapidly accelerating economic fallout. Then again this may be part of the strategy as pump and dump is a fundamental capitalist tactic. Destroying the market (nuclear war) is not good for business. Edging right up to nuclear war is.
I think (and hope!) that the idiots don’t push to far. Their complete failure to recognize the national heritage of Russia (the Great Patriotic War) is worrysome but I do think there are cooler heads in the US military. What I see as the primary risk is an accident that sparks a much wider conflict, and the deliberate exacerbation of the Ukraine action by the west increases that probability dramatically.
NATO has to die, preferably by internal collapse. The citizens of Europe will be instrumental in making that happen, despite the best efforts of the CIA to prevent it.
The longer the fighting in Ukraine lasts, the greater the opportunity the rest of the World has to compare and contrast the cost and efficiency of Russian weapon systems with those of the West.
The US MIC is cutting its own throat by prolonging the war in Ukraine.
Wen Sharafmal zitiert ist nicht Adolf Eichmann, „die Banalität des Bösen“, sondern Heinrich Himmler, Reichsführer SS, Posener Rede. Ohne Kommentar, da es dafür keine passenden Worte gibt.
TV 24 live Ukraine:
Yandex-Übersetzung:
Whom Sharafmal quotes is not Adolf Eichmann, “the banality of evil”, but Heinrich Himmler, Reichsführer SS, “Posener Rede“. Without comment, because there are no suitable words for this.
TV 24 live Ukraine:
– RT-DE – translated:
Ukraine: TV presenter quotes Eichmann and calls to kill Russian children
“We need the victory, and if you have to slaughter all your families for it, then I will be one of the first to do it. Glory to the nation! And hopefully, there will never be such a nation as Russians on this planet again. The Russians are dirt that litter the planet. And if the Ukrainians have the opportunity – and they are already doing so now – to shoot, stab, strangle Russians, I hope that everyone will do their part and kill at least one Russian.”
https://de.rt.com/europa/133913-ukraine-tv-moderator-zitiert-eichmann/
– SRBIN-INFO:
RUSSIAN CHILDREN KILLED: Ukrainian presenter calls for genocide in live program VIDEO
Fahrudin Sharafmal, the host of the Ukrainian “Channel 24”, called for the murder of Russian children in the program, quoting the Nazi criminal Adolf Eichmann on that occasion.
“I know that as a journalist I have to be objective, I have to be calm in order to communicate information with a cold heart. But, honestly, it is very difficult to hold on now, especially at a time like this. Since we are called Nazis, fascists and so on in Russia – I will allow myself to quote the words of Adolf Eichmann, who said that in order to destroy one nation, it is necessary to destroy, above all, children. Because if you kill your parents’ children, they will definitely grow up and will surely take revenge on you.
By killing children – she will never grow up and the nation will disappear. The armed forces of Ukraine cannot exterminate Russian children, because that is prohibited by the rules of war and various conventions, including the Geneva Convention. But I am not from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And when I have the opportunity to deal with the Russians, I will definitely do that.”
“We need a victory. And if we have to butcher all your families for this, I will be one of the first to do so. Glory to the nation!“
https://srbin.info/en/svet/rusku-decu-iskasapiti-ukrajinski-voditelj-u-programu-uzivo-pozvao-na-genocid-video/
Rede des Reichsführers SS bei der SS-Gruppenführertagung in Posen am 4. Oktober 1943
https://www.1000dokumente.de/pdf/dok_0008_pos_de.pdf
Can it be avoided?
Truth commisions with immunity for telling the truth – Media/mind, Economic and ABC wars.
Collective understanding that humanity is doomed to fail unless we stop 1) killing each other / making destructive ABC + media/mind – technology 2) making our goal quantification (numbers, money, “value”) instead of love, nature, art, friendship.
We have trodded a loooong way on the path to destruction. A major point here is the laughable and ridiculous emphasis and hypostatization of such funny ideas as “nation…” / “race….” / “gender/sexuality….” / and even “environment”
– if we had the common sense to stop at “oblast” / “Landschaft” / “state” / “fylke” – level of administration, drop every “””””global””””” or “””national””” bullshit- and all (propagandic) requests for “loyalty” for these abstract yet expensive entities, we could – in my humble opinoin – live in peace.
Better stop using screens and reading “news” as well!
Greatings from yet wintery Norway and all the best to Saker & Crew – you are incredible . every day!!
Ketil
I think this is going to go nuclear because the bowls of wrath for the Anglo-American civilization appear to be ready to overflow.
The blood debt for the USA and London is well above 100 million souls since 1970. That debt is overdue and it is going to be paid in blood.
No, as stated previoisly in this space, it can’t be avoided. Just 5 minutes ago I read from a Belarussian website that loud explosions are being heard at multiple sites thruout Belarus. CIA starting a flanking operation maybe/probably? Russia is, long overdue, acting and won’t back down. Washington is the enemy and thinks it can ‘win’. Pathetic buffoons.
Has anyone seen anything about PIPELINES or pipeline infrastructure being destroyed so for? If not, this will be a very unusual war between the Empire of Lies and Russia. I have not heard anything about the pipelines, but maybe that is because I am following the whole thing through the Russian language media, I have ZERO INTEREST in anything the United States, the West or Zelensky has to say about any of it. The way the United States runs itself and the World is exactly how Jim Jones ran Jonestown in Guyana. (watch the documentaries and you will see what I mean). I have not seen anything in the Russia media that suggests a scale-up of tensions.
From what I can see the Russians have all of the CIA trained paramilitaries bottled up and it is only a matter of time before they surrender, if they had any sense. So, maybe the whole Washington show is to keep them going? And then, in my opinion, there will be a lot of human-hostage shield drama that could cause a horrible amount of unnecessary deaths.
I hate to be cynical, but probably whatever Biden is doing it is all intended to get his Build Back Better bill passed, that will cost 1000s of unnecessary Ukrainian deaths. You have to remember that Washington is totally focused on itself and had no problem running a phony RussiaGate Investigation and Special Council for four years. The rest of the world is just a prop for the Washington, DC kabuki show. IMHO
I this is going to get serious, it will be when as stops flowing across Ukraine, otherwise it is all just US corporate media froth to recover its waning COVID19 audience. IMHO
The risk of nuclear all out war might not be zero, but very close to zero.
The use of singular or several nuclear bombs on european Nato countries however has increased vastly. That s also the reason for the panic in the EU, e.g the comical hot potato ply with the Polish MiGs. They all know, that while Russia might (?) after a long and for both sides very bloody conventional war be beeten by combined NATO, Russia might as well go ALL INN immediately and send some few tactical nukes on the assembly/staging areas AND capitals, ONLY on those NATO countries which take part in the attack on Russia and allow assembly/staging of NATO attack forces in their countries (e.g. Poland). Russia must make clear, that if US or Britain/France answer nuclear on russian cities, then it inevitable would lead to ALL OUT nuclear war and the nuclear annihilation of US/Britain/France. A singular bomb (or a few) on Poland (in the above example) would make that threat VERY clear and credible.
I find it quite hard to believe, that anyone in the pentagon really would “revenge” the Poles in Poland/Warsaw, for the unavoidable price of their own lives all of their loved ones and their whole country. Even if they really hated Russians and died in the safe feeling that the Russians would mostly die too.
This is a theoretical problem of moral hazard (not with money, but with nukes).
The Poles know this, thus they would rather not give the MIGs themselves to Selensky. The Hungarians know this as well, thus they wont allow more NATO forces into Hungary currently.
Obviously risking even a “small” nuclear exchange, as above, increases the risk of all out nuclear war dramatically, thus even the small exchange will be avoided, unless some suicidal sociopath takes the control over the buttons somewhere.
We are safe people! Biden needs the biscuit and football to launch an nuclear attack. He forgot where he put them a while ago.
The Pentagon also will be required to enter codes. They will not, as long as Russia sticks to a conventional engagement.
It will be avoided, because the morons in Washington still want to live…
Having millions has a congressman is good, having time to spend them is better.
Even if Russia had to invade the baltics and even Poland Nato would reinforce but not launch nukes, the American wouldn’t and the brits and french dare not.
As long as it remains conventional Russia could go as far as Germany not included.
“To me, this seems to be headed towards a full-scale military confrontation (conventional and nuclear) between the Empire of Lies and Russia.”
The only way to avoid a full-scale military confrontation I see is that Russia backs down and accepts its destruction which I strongly guess will not happen. The other possibility would be that Nato attacks Russian forces and Russia hits back that hard that Nato immediately backs down which I also assess to be extremely unlikely.
In any other development I assess the dynamics created by those powers holding Western mass media, etc. will quickly be too strong for those weak political figures leading Western countries to oppose them. Just remember the war in Yugoslavia at the beginning of the 90s: Here in Germany the political leadership e.g. foreign minister Genscher spoke out against destroying the country but had to change course due to the immense pressure via German media.
I looks like a similiar scenario taking place during spring 2022.
The Western media is screaming about Russia bombing the Mariupol Drama Theater with 1200 women and children inside. No proof has however been provided that anyone was inside the building at the time of the explosion. No photos or video of victims or rescue work are shown, just one daytime photo of the bombed-out building. It is now at least 6 hours from the bombing, so some photos or at least claims of the number of victims should be available.
The explanation offered by a “Mariupol City Council” is that 1) the explosion destroyed and blocked the only entrance to the underground shelter were the women and children were hiding and 2) rescue work is impossible because of the shelling in the area.
My fear is that if the civilians really were in the theater, we will soon learn that Putin killed them all with chlorine gas.
I have started collecting sources here:
This is a situation where cool head and calculation is essential. A nuclear war is what nobody wants. But NATO is testing the limits. Sending weapons to NATO countries in Europe, especially Poland, is a high stakes. If our gaze focuses on Europe’s position, we can see that they are in a cold sweat. The most important thing for Russia now is to make a neutrality agreement with Ukraine and to diminish the importance of this country in the world arena. Obviously, a rapprochement for the future is not ruled out. Once this problem is solved, the problem with Europe is the old cold war policy. Russia cannot rule out a complete halt to Russian exports to Europe. What worries me most is the talk of banning cargo ships from docking in Russian ports. An important step for the Russian economy would be a economic setup based on statization and ending the olighargs´era.
“……….please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided”…………” Then how (if at all)?”
IMHO, Zone A political and corporate high brass is so smug, corrupted and supportive of NWO agenda that they do not have any interest in standing up against the overlords residing in Washington, London and Vatican. From their perspective propping up this global house of cards is the best option. Ergo, they have supported every ‘whatever it takes’ initiative to maintain the status quo. At least until now. Unfortunately, the history might repeat itself because the bulk of people do not have a slightest clue about the true geopolitical world setup. Yesterday I alluded to ‘wanderers’ (Russian special military operation in the Ukraine – Day 19). I guess the further explanation and visualisation of my thoughts is embedded in Jerry22 post who provided the link to the video on the subject while I was typing (15min time interval between our posts and we are strangers, so pure coincidence / telepathy). You may like it or not, but this is hard practical reality. Until now they have pretty much run the global show from the backseats. What is happening now (as Gonzalo Lira aptly pointed in his video), first cracks have started to emerge on the surface of their empire (de-dollarization threat). The system we all live in is rigged big time! Regardless of which Zone A or B you live, because it is intertwined (at least economically). At the same time, it is corrupted to its core and only simultaneous global uprising, dethroning these guys in one universal democratic blow could do the job. However, quote, ‘If voting could change anything it would be illegal’. Assuming election do can change something indeed, another problem arises. Global election calendar synchronisation is far from perfect, so one cannot conduct it in parallel in all major strategic countries. Other options are of bellicose nature only. So let the people know who they elected & unelected officials really are = all masks off! In summary, if we really want to change this world for better place to live and thrive, we need education, education and once more education! Genuine one with full disclosure of the world history regardless how painful one might be for many. And this should be universal knowledge = history of the humankind vs. history of respective nations. Then, in the aftermath of this catharsis, perhaps in few generations ahead the world will finally be a better place to live. Otherwise we will annihilate ourselves through vanity and madness of the few at the expense of so many. ‘Big wheels keep on turnin’…….’ Apologies for not being of help too much
The Eurolemmings politicians and powerbrokers will never understand that the Anglo-Zionists, by provoking conflicts in EUROPE (and elsewhere) are knowingly tricking the dumb Europeans into deadly traps, into being missiles fodder, getting their infrastructure, livelihood, houses destroyed, and loved ones killed. It happened under WW II. It is happening now. The Anglo-Zionist conglomerate does not give a dime about the people who live in Europe or about their wellbeing. A weak and war ravaged Europe-Ukraine-Russia-China is a Bonanza for the Conglomerate: War far away from their shores, cheap real estate to be bought, when the war is over, and at last the conglomerate can TOTALLY implement the reset it wants, dictates the rules, chips mark, enslave the Eurolemmings, who will then do anything the conglomerate asks them to do, if they want food on the table for those who survive the slaughter…
My opinion is that all-out war will be avoided. Forget the politicians, the financial and military establishment calls the shots and will not allow it.
I actually don’t mind the media delusion in the west, in fact in a way it’s a good thing. It’s the west’s way of letting itself down easy.
The west is way overextended financially and psychologically. This is maintained by a combination of ignorance of and confidence in the system by the masses. All the MSM rubbish is the western way of coping with the ever accelerating decline of their power. The west isn’t ready for a crisis of confidence and all the upheaval of the establishment that would bring.
The expected false flag seems to have taken place in a theatre, downtown Marioupol. Same kind of bombing as in Aleppo few years ago, just for one example amongst a lot.
I am much worried about Biden’s comment that “Putin is a war criminal”. That means that USA does not plan any negotiations with Russia in future, just escalation.
Isn’t that crazy?
Joe Biden has big family, he has grandchildren, and yet he is ready to offer them for some Banderist Nazis that have nothing to do with real American interests. That is outside a normal human logic. What happened to that people, why are their words so cheap?
And all that army of western “journalists”. They are all trained, so good controlled. How do they manage to control them all so good?
Since the assassination of JFK, the USA has had only deranged, psychopaths or both as only in name puppet Presidents serving the Deep State. Not long ago, Biden called President Putin “a killer without soul”. I knew then that the Anglo-Zionist conglomerate had already decided to go to war against Russia and …China. It was only a matter of time when they will go for it, either by direct provocative actions or false flag ops. The gamble from the conglomerate is that the coming WW III will be fought by conventional weaponry, not atomic bombs. The encirclement of both Russia and China by US-NATO bases is part of it.
> Putin is a war criminal
Biden is nothing more an Irish thug from Scranton, PA. They all talk tough till they are punched in the mouth
Para a nato e os eeuu cairem na realidade a sede da nato em bruxelas algum dia tem de ser alvo de um míssil que a desfaça. Então stoltenberg e os generais que mandam nele vão pensar, se estiverem em condições de o fazer.
Yandex translation. Mod:
For nato and the US to fall into reality, nato headquarters in Brussels must one day be targeted by a missile that destroys it. Then stoltenberg and the generals who command him will think, if they are in a position to do so.
I don’t have a solution only a further possible scenario posed by Scott Ritter that might be a cause of NATO coming in not direct war with Russia:
Ritter tweets here:
https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1504018275503689729?t=Wzcp3zufD2w_RizIT2avzg&s=19
And he links to his article here.
‘The US, NATO & the Article IV Trap in Ukraine.’
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/15/the-us-nato-the-article-iv-trap-in-ukraine/
“Sport is above politics!” they preached….
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2022/03/15/daniil-medvedev-told-will-banned-wimbledon-unless-denounces/
Daniil Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players face being banned from Wimbledon unless they publicly denounce the Ukraine invasion, the Government has confirmed….
I think Gonzalo Lira is right. In order to grasp what’s really going on behind the curtains, I always read the Financial Times, which I consider to be the unofficial voice of the City of London, aka, the epicentre of the murderous Empire of lies. In their today’s cover they spread the news of ongoing negotiations at top level concerning the neutrality status of Ukraine. So I think they are trying to sign with the Russians another shit paper they will never comply to and gain time in the meantime. I dont think I am wrong if I say that NATO commandment is as we speak desperately trying to put a paper on the table for the Russians to sign. But on what terms? They have pushed Russia so back on the ropes that they dont have any negotiating margin to offer any more.
It can be avoided, but only by a mass awakening. People need to understand what is at stake (the lives of hundreds of millions of poor/working class people), and who is to blame (the elite banker/political/corporate class).
People would need t:
1. Protest in a way that makes the status quo untenable
2. Refuse to sign up for war. No meat for the grinder, no conflict.
3. Remove the people at fault. By voting them out, boycotting them, or if that doesn’t work the real war is at home against the elites.
“Can that be avoided?
You tell me, and if you think it can, please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided.
Not by any action of the Eurolemmings, that is for sure. ”
Looks like Putin knows what he is doing is more precise dealing with his own emergency than I am, along with. Paul Craig Roberts>
To avoid a full confrontation with all on the table? I don’t see how. Rentier capitalism can’t win and they are prepared to do whatever they can in trying to win and if not take the planet with them. We have experienced them for more than a millennia running the planet and experience that has proven who they are, what they want and what they are capable of off.
There can be no doubt about them at all because that historical experience proves them out. I was stunned at how easy it has been for them to have convinced the people of the world to have confidence in the Covid vaccines given what we have suffered at their hands for so long
Only regime change can possibly avoid human elimination. The ordinary people over the planet never rose up when the consequences were less terminal. But only their rise now can possibly save it. The popular rise must be total, overwhelming a rise the size of the American trucker movement tends to portend. But there is no news of that. I don’t even know where it is at this point. But hopefully that triggers revolutionary regime change in the USA, successfully removing the rentier class and their minions.
If not the truckers maybe just spontaneously! for god knows there is enough of all that is required to spur the American people to collective action building for generations, to create the social change in America essential to saving the USA and in the process the world at the same time
Perhaps it would be possible to organize a citizens’ initiative on a global scale, and give a voice to all those people who are directly or indirectly affected by the conflict and who today do not have the right to express themselves. You have Russians and Chinese, South Americans and Africans, Asians and people of the Middle-East… In Europe you will have a large part of the European populations, even the American population does not want this war. Give them the possibility to express their position against extension of war, without media filter.
There are almost 8 billion people on this planet. Give them a way to express themselves on this conflict via a simple voting site with one or 2 simple questions:
Do you want the country of which you are a citizen to participate in this conflict?
Do you condemn any ingerance by a foreign country in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine?
Two questions that can even be reduced to one. No possibility of inflating the figures for propagandists. Every vote is an opposition to the extension of the war. No division possible that would move the debates on the so-called interests of nations, races, colors, cultures, history… No possibility of censure. No bias in responsibility for the conflict.
Ask the people of the world and not their leaders to take a stand against the ingerence of their country which could provoke an escalation of the conflict.
This is not a war between citizens. When were the peoples solicited or were they able to express themselves? There is a minority fighting against a majority. Seek to show that this minority is isolated and acts against the will of the whole world. As a reminder, the majority of the globe will not be involved in this conflict and will suffer, or even already suffer, the consequences. For the rest, the populations are in “democracies” where their voice has not been heard for a long time.
The point is not to know i
Only Russia can de-escalate this situation
By pulling out of Ukraine or by making escalation futile for the west
Pulling out is not really an option as the sanctions will remain and with the loss of prestige
They will be worse off than if they never took action
Which of course was the outcome of the western strategy
So that leaves making escalation futile
Best option in that regard is to achieve military objective quickly
The managers of the empire of lies dont care if the garbage they ship to the Ukraine gets blown up – some of them maybe prefer that option, because the whole point is massively subsidizing the “defense” industry with public money. Poland and the other NATO stooges have learned to play this game. They would have been happy to blow up thier old Migs themselves, so ling as Washington sends newer F16’s (notice no one was willing to risk a strike o=against thier own territory howe ver) Israel is the global grandmaster of this US policy.fraud…This is the whole point of the “democracy” industry
I have idea. Putin should say that captured Stingers etc. will be split between countries like Venezuela, Iran and Syria. This should cause some panic.
I’d like to say that I am fairly disgusted with some of the cowardly entries made on this thread. Russia had no other choice but to confront the enemy as was previously mentioned. Prolonging this situation does no good to anyone civilized. The red line has finally been crossed. Cowering and kicking the can down the road is what brought us here in the first place! It’s pure selfishness. What about the younger generations? They have already been sold out by weakness. It’s disgusting and shameful.
Russia is certainly capable of winning this fight and should be supported in every way. This is not only about Russia and the Ukraine, it’s truly about good vs. evil. Russia will be Victorious and we should all be eternally grateful. I know I am. May God Bless Russia.
The so-called “leaders” of the Empire of Lies are children of the devil – liars and murderers, as defined in John 8:44, Jesus speaking.
How do you deal with a devil that is consumed by his own lies, and who sees Russians not only as sub-human, but who must be also extensively tortured all the way down to the grave ?
How do you deal with a devil if, no matter what you do, he will NEVER allow you to have peace ?
You can’t deal with it, and you cannot compromise with it… because if you don’t defeat it entirely, it will always come back for more.
In fact, it will even harm ITSELF to keep its horror on you !
There is no doubt in my mind that the “intelligence agencies” behind the US and UK are going to keep poking and prodding for escalation, even to the point of nuclear war, unconcerned for their own citizens or anyone else… and the rich will flee away to their safe places with plenty of food on hand.
So how do you defeat that ?
Pray to God, that’s how. For only God can defeat the devil.
And please pray to God also to give the Russians the wisdom to asymmetrically destroy their oppressors, and to save as many relatively innocent lives as possible.
As I see it, this conflict can only be properly understood from a Biblical perspective.
What we have is a cult of demon-possessed, theistic Satanists, known in the Bible as the first beast of Rev 13, aka the beast from the sea, apparently comprised of the spiritual heirs of the Pharisees). This cult has by now completely taken over the U.S. “government” (and apparently those of several other states). This cult presumably made the deal with Satan that Jesus rejected (Luke 4:5-8) “and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority,” accordingly (Rev 13:2).
All of the descriptive features given by John seem to fit, i.e., it’s “mouth, as the mouth of a lion” refers to the beast’s monopolistic control over modern mass communications; “feet…as the feet of a bear” refers to the Bolshevik revolution in Russia; deadly head wound that healed apparently refers to WW2 on the European continent, where Germany’s success, had it continued, would’ve been the end of Jewish influence in Europe, but Germany did evil (e.g. attacked Russia) and the tide turned against it and it lost and was subsumed into the evil empire; thus the beast’s head wound – which was made with a sword (Rev 13:14) – was “healed.”
The first beast has consolidated power into the executive branch of the U.S. “government” thus creating the most powerful and unaccountable political office the world has ever seen. And it has installed into this office a series of ever-more-corrupt and easily manipulable “men,” who’re willing to take personal responsibility for carrying out great acts of evil on behalf of the beast.
This confluence of great power and great evil is apparently known in the Bible as the second beast of Rev 13, i.e. the beast from the earth (Rev 13:11). The prophet Daniel apparently saw the same end-times scenario unfolding, but he described it a little differently. I believe Daniel’s “little horn” (Daniel 7:8) is the same entity as John’s second beast (Rev 13:11); i.e. the “little horn” represents the end-times U.S. “government” whose eyes and mouth are those of the president of the U.S. Whereas in John’s description, the second beast seems to represent the office of the super-executive whose two horns are symbolic of the legislative and judicial power which have been de facto ceded to it. John tells us that the second beast has created an “image of the (first) beast” which I take to mean that the balance of the U.S. “government” (over which the second beast presides) no longer has any moral or constitutional legitimacy and exists only to do the Satanic dirty work of the first beast (e.g. Congress doesn’t care that Americans are broke, inflation is out of control, health care is unaffordable, crime is out of control, etc., yet they are willing to make matters worse and squander everything of value to destroy Russia and China).
The second beast and the corrupt “government” it presides over amounts to only 545 people; so the worldly power these people wield comes only from the masses of corrupt/morally incompetent people i.e. “order followers” who are willing to do any and all manner of evil for a lie and a paycheck. I believe the nation(s) that host and enable this evil are known in the Bible as “Mystery Babylon.”
Anyway, this Satanic cult is waging a spiritual war against all humanity, seeking to do to everyone in the world what Satan did to Eve, i.e. to deceive, corrupt and manipulate everyone into “giving worth to evil” (worshiping Satan).
Only by corrupting all the people and all the institutions in the world i.e. proselytizing for Satan – and by destroying whoever or whatever they can’t corrupt – can they achieve the Satanic goal set forth in Isaiah 14:13,14.
And along comes mighty Russia, which is now backed into a corner and threatened by the beast, but Russia will not surrender to the demonic evil. And the evil will not compromise on its agenda. So the Bible seems to predict that there will be a nuclear war which will result in the complete destruction of “Mystery Babylon.”