Dear friends,
First, a quick announcement – I have agreed with a Russian speaking reader to have a SITREP about the Russian Special Military Operation (SMO) every 2nd day.
Here is the first one: http://10.16.86.131/sitrep-operation-z/ (make sure to check it out!!!)
Please drop by and give us your feedback, suggestions, criticisms, etc.!
Second, there is a true panic going through the Russian society. It is due to the talk happening in Turkey between Russians and the Ukronazis. This is a sore point with most Russians because in Russian history there have been plenty of examples of Russian diplomats literally wasting away what was acquired by the blood of Russian soldiers. And just to make it worse, Russians remember the infamous Khasaviurt agreements and the two Minsk Agreements. The notion of a “Minsk 3.0” absolutely horrifies many Russians, including myself. So this begs the question – are these fears founded, yes or no?
I think that they both are and are not founded, let me explain. Here are some of the reasons why these negotiations are creating fear, uncertainty and doubts:
- First, if you want to denazify the Ukraine, why negotiate with Nazis in the first place? Does the concept of “denazification” not imply regime change in Kiev?
- Second, what is the notion of dramatically reducing the combat activities around Kiev and Chernigov??? Does that mean that Russia has given up on the notion of liberating these towns?
- Some of the delegates sent by Russia are rather pathetic looking, like the head of the delegation, Vladimir Medinsky.
- What in the world is Abramovich doing anywhere near these negotiations???
I can try to offer a few answers:
- Always remember that Russians always talk to everybody, including their enemies, even in case of war. So by itself the fact that they are sitting and talking is neither good nor bad, at least in the Russian mindset. Furthermore, if negotiating with Nazis can bring about a desirable outcome at a lower price in human lives and destruction of the civilian infrastructure, then to talk to these Nazis does make sense.
- The one aspect which freaked out the most people is this “reduction in military activities around Kiev and Chernigov” and that fear makes no sense whatsoever. The reality on the ground is simple: the Russians are close enough to both cities to keep them under control and nobody on the Russian side has ever claimed that the Russians intended to occupy these cities. In fact, lowering down the force levels around Kiev and Chernogov would free up some very needed forces to finally finish off the operational cauldron in Donbass. Finally, as with any unilateral gesture of goodwill, the side which said “yes” cannot say “no” 30 seconds later, that is the key characteristic of a unilateral “sign of goodwill” and any well trained negotiator will immediately recognize that kind of “gestures of goodwill” as a negotiating technique aimed at creating a specific mental dynamic in which both sides are pushed towards a specific outcome.
- If you think Medinsky is uninspiring, there is even worse. One member of the Russian delegation specifically is a total imbecile and a loudmouth who likes to proffer inanities with a very loud voice. This is Russian State Duma’s Foreign Affairs Committee Leonid Slutsky. To show you how stupid (and probably corrupt) this guy is, read this article where he calls the Houthis “terrorists”! There are some very sharp guys in that delegation too, I think of Boris Gryzlov for example. As for what in the world Abramovich is doing in Turkey, I am as baffled by this as everybody else, especially since the claim that he was kinda poisoned about a month ago, and it must have been by the Russians, since Abramovich survived, like all the other putative previsions victims of Russian poisoning attempts (and, considering that Abramovich survived, this MUST have been “Novichok”, right?!)
So? Is it time to freak out?
Nope, but it is time to make sure to convey to the Kremlin that we are all tense and that the Russian public opinion would be overwhelmingly against any type of Minsk 3.0, Abramovich or not.
Personally, I don’t like any of those talks, I tend to distrust Russian diplomats and I am quite aware that there are plenty of Atlantic Integrationists in the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Duma and Presidential Administration. And, as I have mentioned, the history of Russia is full of examples of civilian diplomats pissing away what was conquered at a great price in blood.
That being said,
It is way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too early to start freaking out. First, if you listened, like I did, to the short statement of the Russian negotiators you will notice that the Russians only repeated the Ukrainian position, they did not say a word about what Russia would or would not do. They presented “reduction in military activity” as a “sign of good will”, but these are empty words, the military activity that really matters today is the one in Mariupol and in the Donbass, and about that the Russians did not say a word.
I also remind you that Russia uses the following technique quite often: appear to make concessions to your enemy knowing full well that your concessions are never going to be acceptable to that enemy, and when that enemy shows that he will not accept your concession, take unilateral actions and blame it on your enemy. That is *exactly* what Russia did, it turns out very successfully, with the two Minsk Agreements.
So this is what the French called a “storm in a glass of water” – lots of rumors and armchair strategists proclaiming with great gravitas that “Putin is about the betray the Donbass”, which has been their mantra for 7 years and which they keep chanting while the Russians liberate town after town in the Ukraine. Frankly, I am personally sick and tired of these second-guessing 6th columnists who are oh-so-certain that if THEY were in the Kremlin they would do so much better than Putin. I wish they would learn to shut up, wait for the facts on the ground to be parsed in sufficient number and care, and then only made conclusions. But I know that this is a vain hope, those who have been saying that “all is lost” for 8 years now won’t shut up no matter what is really going on.
Which brings me to the latest news of the day: Mariupol.
There is some pretty good evidence that Mariupol is basically in Russian hands. Yes, there are still a few scattered Nazis in the city, but they are mostly hiding in basements and in various well-protected locations inside the Azovstal industrial complex. Also, the much-announced Ukronazi counter-offensive from Nikolaev to deblock Mariupol has totally failed, the units were immediately detected by the Russian intelligence service, so they were first hit with missile strikes and then finished off with Russian close air support. Yesterday, a Mi-8 helicopter was seen probably trying to evacuate the commanders of the Nazi force in Mariupol, but it was shot down.
This brings all points to the same reality: Mariupol has fallen and the defenses of Nikolaev have been severely degraded.
One last comment: all this “storm in a glass of water” proves again how primitive and misguided the Russian public information remains. I mean, seriously, how stupid are the folks in the Kremlin not to realize that ambiguous statements from Russian negotiators will immediately result in 6th column hysterics and a tsunami of rumors, some of them incredibly stupid and some of them very damaging to the Russian side.
Frankly, I would give the Russian PR/PSYOP/Information operations people a “F” for totally mismanaging the CRUCIAL aspect of public communications, especially during a war.
As for negotiating with the Nazis, I totally support such talks, but only if Russia is represented by one civilian, say Boris Gryzlov, and one military or ex-military man, like General Vladimir Shamanov. Second, I would demand a total embargo on the progress of talks until the Russians decide that a major goal has been achieved or until the Russian side gets fed up and leaves (General Shamanov has a short temper and no appreciation for crooks or their bullshit).
As a blogger, I spend way too much time in that frustrating sequence:
- The Russians say something really asinine
- The 6th column freaks out and goes “AHA! Told ‘ya!”
- Then I have to explain that while the comment is, indeed, asinine, it carries no weight at all until and unless the Russians put ink to paper on the top level. Until then, all these declarations and statements are just hot air.
Every time a blogger needs to do that, it is proof that somebody on the Russian side screwed-up (again!) and is not taking his/her job seriously.
Please tell me that over time, and with more of these PR faceplants happening with a steady regularity somebody in Moscow will finally wake up, fire all the clowns who have no idea of what an effective information campaign should have looked like, and replace them with folks who actually understand both the nature and importance of their tasks.
But I am not holding my breath: being appallingly inept at information operations seems to be a Russian specialty.
But if that is really so, they the Russians have to 1) admit it to themselves and to the Russian people and 2) completely rebuilt the public information strategy and hire real professionals to execute it.
But that is wishful thinking: when I look at the faces of Medinsky or Abramovich I feel what many US Americans feel with they look at, say, Blinken or Musk – one is a born loser the other one a born crook. A very uninspiring and depressing sight…
Anyway, that’s from me for today.
“See you” soon
Andrei
PS: and if you wonder what the Nazi crazies are up to, here is a good one: they want to ban the letter “Z”. This tells you that the Ukies MUST be winning, right? If they are down to fighting letters of the alphabet, the war must be going so well for them that I can’t even put it in words, right? :-)
I really hope that the announcement on Kiev is some type of head fake because if it isn’t, I’m officially ‘freaking out’. I’m also NOT concern trolling, honestly, I’m not having a good day here.
1. Russia went in because Kiev did not honor ink and paper, so why, under any circumstances, would Russia leave for more (worthless) ink and paper?
2. How do you ‘de-Nazify’ Ukraine if Zelensky and his puppet government remains in power? “…nobody on the Russian side has ever claimed that the Russian intended to occupy these cities”. With all due respect, this sounds like a healthy serving of cope. Russia moved it’s army into the suburbs of Kiev so, until now, that appeared to be the intention. I guess I’m guilty of high expectations.
3. Why push towards Kiev if you only want the Donbas? Was this to apply pressure for again, more WORTHLESS ink and paper? That only makes sense if Zelensky honors written agreements, he doesn’t and never will.
I’m praying for a head fake. :)
Yes and another very disturbing clause : Ukraine will be free to join EU if she wish so. But if Ukraine becomes a EU member state, how could she maintain neutral status? Today the Swedish prime minister Magdalena Anderson has said that her country will never be neutral and that it will position itself with EU in case of large scale conflict. She added “from the moment we became member of EU we were no more neutral”.
One of the declared goal of the russian SO is that Ukraine declare itself neutral “on the model of Sweden, Austria or Finland”. This is very nice in theory, but in fact, these countries are not neutral. They have obligations toward other EU states that are members of Nato.
There is one way the stupid PR flop may turn out to be very good for Russia. If people in Russia are sufficiently angry and put pressure on Putin to not yield a millimetre, that may free the government’s hands to pursue a full annihilation of the Ukranazi coup regime,. Because the Russian people demands it, you know.
One friend from suisse told me that “neutral suisse” supported Ukronazis with fortifications. My friend was 30 years a high ranking member in the suisse army. His friend was last 3 three years many times in Ukraine to advise the UkroNazis with building up special fortifications in houses and buildings artillery . Suisse has a long tradition to camouflage artillery in houses, buildings and mountains.
Great article from Nightvision!. More of where that came from please!
….but if you send a lackluster mediocre negotiating team to the bargaining table, does that alone not speak volumes??
Putin knows dogs. German Shephards are highly trainable; they only bite when you order them to and they come to heel on command. You can deal with a well-behaved albeit dangerous dog. An unleashed slavering unpredictable rabid dog, not likely.
I trust you all are familiar with the Micheal Jackson “Moonwalk”.
Some videos for today.
A month underground in Mariupol:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/kosarev_mariupol_basement_shelter_29_03:f
Shows a battle to clear out a Banderite base in Mariupol:
https://rutube.ru/video/8af80e269fd598e4d3e14422fb81fec2/
Rally in support of Russia held in Syria’s Latakia:
https://odysee.com/@Ruptly:d8/Syria-rally-in-support-of-Russia:1
Russian helicopter strikes destroy Kiev regime armored vehicles:
https://rutube.ru/video/8cb6722f2a917a52c71757b9029dec3d/
Chernigiv is of interest as it is the first large city when the Russians moved south towards Kiev.
There was an extremely strong resistance there, so the Russians moved on but left troops to encircle the city.
The Twitter link is the main forum for current news about the city.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23chernigiv
What becomes apparent is the strong anti-Russian sentiment portrayed by most who post data.
Many simply re-post unverified data…
But there is one contributor who counters some of the misinfromation and even quotes Mearsheimer.
The position of Chernigov needs explaining:
Being situated geographically close to Russia and Byelorussia, it does appear that NATO focused quite heavily on positioning a large force there. The presence of such a large contingent of western mercenaries holed up in the Hotel Ukraina certainly indicates just how important this area was, to NATO
Then also, the population appears to have been particularly strongly brainwashed into supporting Ukie Nationalism / being anti-Russian…
Some major incidents need explaining>
33 killed in a housing estate: This was attributed by everyone within the city as a missile attack by Russia (but the Russians later denied that they were active inside the city)…
12 shoppers killed when queuing for bread: This was attributed to the Russians, again at a time when there were no Russians inside the city.
Various reports from 47 to 200 killed at unspecified locations however the biggest single Russian activity was to hit the Hotel Ukraina which had been the main gathering place for mercenaries, so the reports on high numbers killed, are not verified but could be attributed to this biggest single attack. The Russians used a jet to deliver the weapon.
Reports by the Mayor that “the whole city has been destroyed” again at a time when the Russians were simply encircling the city to keep the Ukrainian troops locked in. From 21st March however there were many reports that the Russians had entered the city from the Southern suburbs and gradually working their way in…
What is not mentioned is the reality that because the Russians are encircling the city and there have been dwindling food supplies available to the Ukrainian Army, the Ukies started to enter the centre of the city, raiding shops and attacking civilians. This remains the single biggest threat for local citizens (who it appears, cannot distinguish a Ukie soldier from a Russian one. The brainwashing by the Ukie government has been so thorough that everyone is terrified of Kadyrovs men…many Chernigiv citizens were attacked by Chechen fundamentalists who were placed in Hotel Ukraina and the citizens of Chernigiv are unable to tell the difference between Kadyrovs men and the extremist mercenaries)
The BBC and Sky reported major artillery bombardment ‘started by the Russians’ from the 25th.
Since 8 days there has been no news from friends inside the city.
I now understand thanks to Nightvisions excellent report that the Internet has been shut down deliberately.
This ties in with my own communications with Chernigiv, whereby from 24th Feb to 25th March, the Russians enabled internet communications – the locals then making intense use, to contact friends and family – but this was then cut on the 25th March.
Thank you for the insight! I had read a report whereby territorial defenders were fighting with members of the AFU but no explanation was given as to why. No I understand the reason.
We must understand the anarchy going on inside Ukrainian cities. Additional reason why it makes little sense to occupy them. Suddenly, you are responsibility for everything.
The brainwashing really puzzles me. Ukraine has become the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe, yet these rabid people praise it like it some sort of ancient Carthage. All the abuse and exploitation they have endured for 8 years and yet with the regimes hold over them slipping each and every day, they still stay loyal. Stockholm Syndrome?
The work of Mr. Kadyrov’s men and The Naval Marines of the Russian Federation
https://southfront.org/pile-of-azov-fighters-corpses-amid-appeal-of-dpr-marine-video-18/
The US, GB & Israel constitute the axis of evil. My hope is for Russia to accept no compromises. The evil west needs to be taken down!
Please, please let there not be another Debaltsavo.
The way I see (a kind of joke) :
Russia: real sh*t!
West: delusional PR winning War Propaganda BS!
Talks in Turkey between Russia and Ukronazis = Oscar’s staged/Fake slap! (Will Smith = Putin; Chris Rock = Zelensky)
6th column’s view = Inside Edition’s Will Smith Shows Fan How to Fake Slap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuDoav2eTiI
In my mind it’s impossible to think that Putin, Lavrov, Russian Secret Service, General Staff etc are silly. They don’t believe in the West. Zero reliability. None! They’re buying time, playing the BS PR/diplomacy game while moving on the real stage: the real war… achieving real goals…
Pepe is right! He is not optimistic he’s realist!
How Mariupol will become a key hub of Eurasian integration
Mariupol was battered by Ukraine’s right-wing Azov battalion well before Moscow launched its military ops. In Russian hands, this strategic steelworks port can transform into a hub of Eurasian connectivity.
By Pepe Escobar
March 29 2022
https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/8480
Several days ago i read Slutski’s stupid comment about the Houthis. At a time when russia is at war in ukraine his main concern is attacking the houthis simply because they are defending themselves from Saudi agresssion by hitting sauid oil storage facilities. Maybe thats what set him off. destruction of the oil storage facilites probably increased the price of oil and that is not good for uncle shamuel. That’s when i knew for certain that the Kremlin has traitors amongst its midst. I remember the politician’s name because how can anyone ever forget a traitor like that “SLUTski”
I will never understand how Putin can allow him to remain in his job. Russia needs to weed out these traitors quickly and effectively. But no, they get to remain in power and apointment like minded people like them, which makes the problem exponentially worse. Now i hear he is part of the negotiating team. OMG. I can tell you right now that the slut will work for the interests of the nazi’s, zelenski, and the west.
You are right, these guys are going to piss away the huge sacrifice the russian armed forces have given towards liberating Ukraine. im very disappointed. Yes i understand that we should wait and see….but thats the problem…we shouldnt have to…any good leadership would have recognised traitors and removed them…would have not needed to negotiate with nazi’s…would have gone for full regime change in ukraine. Enough of negotitations and let the russian army finish off the ukronazisluts once and for all.
But that is wishful thinking: when I look at the faces of Medinskii or Abramovich I feel what many US Americans feel with they look at, say, Blinken or Musk – one is a born loser the other one a born crook. A very uninspiring and depressing sight…
Andrei
But who else would you send to negotiations with with Nazis and Clowns?
Personally I think it’s a perfect communication of exactly what Russia thinks of the level of negotiations.
Saker,
There is a new war front built up.
‘Negotiations’ in Instanbul are mostly optics. The war in Ukraine has been lost for US, and they’re fully aware of it. Talk, talk, talk, but the operation will proceed into Odessa, and into Donetsk during phase 2. Putin probably has to put up with lots of fuss right now, until various issues internally are sorted out, mostly having to do with businesses and manners of operation, but all these are an ongoing process.
There is a new war front built up.
NATO (Norwegians & Americans) are already in northern Finland. Mind you, this is serious. Agreements were broken by the whatever swedish-led stooges pass for government in Finland these days. Others, old-timers in politics are not happy about it. The public has no idea what has happened.
They’re being told by the media 24/7 that “Putin is about to invade” that Finland must join NATO asap.
Obviously, a done deal behind the scenes.
It is serious. Back in ’19, things got so tense in the Arctic, that war was almost about to break out. Lavrov visited Norway to “meet with his counterpart”, only some people from the military accompanied him. Things calmed down shortly after that.
Now, something really ugly has happened. No way, there won’t be a conflict with NATO being right in the northern Finnish-Russian border.
Would appreciate h/t.
We are all better than the media in the West, right?
Let us support truth at all levels.
The Russian negotiators should drag one of the Azov participants, preferably a higher-up, to the talks and demonstrate the swastika tattoos. . .
I did not see in those talking points any acknowledgement that Kiev has been bombarding the LDNR every day since Minsk, in direct violation of that agreement.
A while back I posted that once Russia had liberated Ukraine fully things would settle down. Cut of the hate-Russia propaganda ,get people into jobs,with hope for the future and Ukrainians will return to normal again. This interview helps confirm my point. This soldier cares about returning to a peaceful life.And doesn’t care about Ukraine:
We are interrogating the Ukrainian captive commando A. Popadyuk.
Under what circumstances were you taken prisoner?
– I did not want to die, because we were thrown on a stupid task – to stop the column.
– What will happen to Ukraine?
– There will be no Ukraine, it will become part of the Russian Federation.
– What do you think about it?
– I just want to live a peaceful life.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/37594
Subverted states like Ukraine are like zombies with a brain parasite. Having talks with them is a total waste of time. They can’t be deterred or reasoned with and they only respond to the command of the brain parasite. (ie the NATO handlers of their regime)
You can’t cure Ukraine. You can only completely neuter it so it can’t be further used as a weapon against you. It’s akin to cutting off the arms and legs of the zombie and crushing it’s jaw so it can’t bite. Ukraine needs to be totally neutralized like that and the only way that to do it is to kill their military(already in progress) and total regime change.
Anything less than that would be a long term disaster for Russia. Biden has already made NATO intention of making Ukraine a long term thorn in Russia’s side clear. If Russia allows Ukraine to exist in any kind of rump state form it will simply be used as a launching platform for future terrorist NATO incursions.
“they want to ban the letter ‘Z’.”
What about this Baseball Z hat? It has nothing to do with anything else. The problem with such reactions is that they promote the idea. They should at least wait for one huge demonstration with Zs everywhere before speaking so. If no such thing happened anywhere, it’s Z promotion!
https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Structured-Baseball-Cutstom-Initial/dp/B07HCTBCRT/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hat+Z&qid=1648611051&sr=8-1
Oi, whatever words you can’t use, don’t deploy a ‘z/Z’ in any of them okay?
Russell Brand has the voiding of ‘t’ sound down to a fine art. Should hear him say ‘entity’, like en-ih-ee. So much tee sipping has leached the tees out of the poor tea deficient chap.
Unz art I just read sugs that low level dips are going in due to no expectations from any talkies. Rather reasonable angle I’d say. Vent some Russian abuse in the bargain.
Has been said, even with Bri ish Tavis[]ock level PR, having no access to west minds (all/any media form) would have zeroed it all anyway. Access is primary. Maybe Kremlin has thought this up, and just fights, as all words get ground out in battle anyway.
But yeah, like I’ve seen n said, words are dusty dry, few emojis in em. West thinks in emojis. Beasts demand Bea$tviZion and only Jews have the holy Hachewood. Does Mr Lavrov ever use images to illustrate words. Images convey instant emotional input/output. The diff between hearing about a battle and seeing it play out. Or reading about your team winning/losing and seeing it.
Has it ever occurred to Lav or UN dips to put images to words? On the spot.
Make a cylindrical screen, project using fisheye lens onto inner surface. Have it so compact and instantly ready it’s no hassle at all. Unlike the F for javelins. Seems like dip is old skool, dry, A4s, folders, fountain pens, yacketty yack yack yack, breakable words = soldiers die.
Why no new? Why only boring old? Why no change, no upgrade, no restrategising? At the dip level. Is current methodogy perfected?
Then I surmise, we are there yet. Mountain top flagged. Quill stuck in.
Chuck it.
If you want to get rid of Nazism, it is necessary to understand why Nazism still appeals to anybody. These problems all need to be fixed.
https://steemit.com/politics/@gungasnake/why-the-continuing-appeal-of-nazism
The statement of 29.03.2022 on the Kiev-Moscow negotiations caused an avalanche of emotional reactions of anger at the “traitors” on the Russian Internet.
I think that the study of public opinion by the provocative “Medinsky Test” shows that the residents of Russia support the operation in Ukraine.
A problem with Moscow’s approach towards the Ukraine has been that pro-Russian folks can reasonably feel that they will not get adequate support from Russia, and thus will lose their jobs or perhaps teeth if they do anything that the anti-Russians oppose. Only the Crimea won out of their opposition to the coup.
So, for decades, supporting Russia has come with the risk of going out on a limb simply to find there is no support. Moscow was saddling up, but that could be when you are dead.
This is an issue with the talks. People inside the Ukraine may not feel that they can trust the Kremlin. Would you? In this invasion, Moscow has seemed to be relatively unprepared to set up civil administration; perhaps they were counting on some neutrality or even support from the political/oligarchical leadership in these cities and provinces. This idea is discussed a bit by Yurasumy, for those who know of him.
So there is a trade-off; it makes sense to keep everyone guessing and to try to divide the Ukrainian opposition into radicals and more rational Ukrainians, but the risk is making it even more unclear what the future holds for those in places like Kharkov or Kherson. Being sold out by the elite class in Russia is an old story.
You are telling us that Russia can’t handle its own PR during negotiations and war,
but they are able to install a president in the US?
It seems that these negotiations are only hurting Russia. The west will spin them in
a particular way and Russian ineptitude is not helping. Negotiations are obviously
helpful, but maybe they should be done behind closed doors.
How is possible that ukro nazis still have Donjeck in range? After 30 days they are still shelling like crazy killing civilians? I do not understand why RF can not eliminate those artillery lines and pushed them back? Is it possible that they are so well fortified, camouflaged etc that Russian can not eliminate them from sky or with kalibar or wtahever?
“Is it possible that they are so well fortified, camouflaged etc that Russian can not eliminate them from sky or with kalibar or wtahever”
If you have been paying attention you would not need to ask that. Why do people want to be spoon fed info and clog up threads with infantile questions?
Hamas still fires rockets into Israel despite decades of apartheid style domination of Gaza by Israel. Everything Gaza imports is vetted by Israeli customs even nails and bags of cement are limited by quotas to avoid bunker and tunnel building by Hamas. But the rockets still fly in and are getting more sophisticated with time. Yet all of mossad and tsahal are focused on the problem for decades. Cut RF forces some slack. This artillery issue isn’t as controversial as you think.
To the Saker: l love your insights, based on knowledge & on the ground facts which gives others hope, in a world of mass hypnosis and fiction is truth. The only thing I was ever worried about is exactly what you described above.
I always knew that Russian firepower is unmatched, but the economic war unleashed & the propaganda, in unison just shows how big this evil is. The initial Putin was a quiet person, that the hegemony accepted, but then he started to take back Russia for Russian people. Never forgiving for that.
The Russian people will come to understand that, even though Putin got rid of many of the Zionist raping Russia, they still have many left, as you correctly pointed out. They, by their still influence in Democratic Russia need to be weeded out, and they expose themselves as per their subservient recommendations. I wondered why Putin kept that bought woman in the Russian central Bank, instead of a justifiable bullet to the head.
Maybe, it’s to let show them show their true colours and weed them out. In my humble estimation, the Russians never intended to take over the entire Ukraine. Why would they fix the west part, completely dessimated. That is for the Zion USA to fix, but since they can’t even begin to fix the utter chaos that they are all; and like Afghanistan their modus operandi is ” thief and run”. Putin will be remembered for centuries as a force against evil. The Western Jewish Nazi controlled Ukraine will go the way they most truly deserve, and hopefully the Russians will take Odessa. Then it’s on to phase 2 or things might change.
“The Russians say something really asinine”
Deutungshoheit!
( see this “greater catastrophe” vs “greatest catastrophe” translation of that Putin quip.)
This is difficult. control over media presentation
in the west is tight. ( not forced but by unchecked
reuse of helpfully provided translation via aggregator output.
Today the majority of articles are copy/paste from reuters …
There isn’t all that much that Russia can do to route around this mechanism?
So far the Russian mission has achieved most of its objectives. By clearing Mariupole the Donbas -Crimean peninsula will be connected by land. Bearing in mind that this is going to be a long term battle not only against the Nazis but in reality a big war against the entire West/NATO, therefore it makes sense that Russia concentrates more on the financial aspects of this war which is the successful implementation of trade in Rubles. Given all the support Zeliniski and the neonazis receive from the NATO, it would be impossible to get rid of all the gangsters. It’s just futile and waste of time and resources. Anyway the West got the message and if they’re going to continue making trouble, Russia will have the freedom of hitting them using much bigger bombs.
was minsk realy “appear to make concessions to your enemy knowing full well that your concessions are never going to be acceptable to that enemy” ? i was thinking minsk was the not implemented solution…
and the i think, its not fundamental what russia is talking whit ukraine, its about what russia talks whit the US. are there any talks?
Dear Andrei,
I am a first time commenter, even though I’ve been following your blog for some time. The reason is that I have been pondering an issue lately and your reaction made me to confront it to your information and sagacity.
This course of thought got vivid when I saw the shooting of President Putin and his security service representative, that had been presented to me as “look they are scared of him”. This got me started on wondering about why that happened, just in case Pr. Putin was more than an absolute tyran loving to terrorize those who work with him.
While I won’t debate with the points you make in this blog, I started realizing that similar thoughts on my side were relying on the assumption that Pr. Putin was in absolute control of the entire Russian political system.
Now, if I change my model to thinking about Pr. Putin as an highly intelligent politician, with a fair deal of power, but also having to deal with juggling many different groups of influence, some additional explanations start showing their nose.
While this doesn’t mean that you are wrong when you see incompetence, it might also mean that someone else might be aware of it and let it unfold to its own doom, as part of his plan. Often people use the image of a game of chess. I intimately think that this image is flawed in that it doesn’t take into account the fact that sometimes your Horse, Bishop or even Tower has plans of its own, that could very well be against the best good of the King, or of the pawns for that matter. In that case, the gambit of a tower, which in a game you fully control would be completely stupid, becomes a move that, while still risky, has deeper grounds.
Now, I am absolutely open to being shoot down for thinking astray, but that intriguing though has been running in my mind, and I thought I’d run it through this crowd of educated thinkers.
With my best
Seb
Never had my Horse, Bishop, or Castle move on its own, sounds like ‘black magic’, at that point I’d flip the board and destroy the possessed piece.
The Castle fuel/ammo dumps are gone, the Bishops of wheels and wings are molten spent. There are still Knights at play with many Pawns afoot still, and more join the fray. A cure will be found.
Cheers M
A seafaring uncle taught me an opening strategy when I was young. It can confuse the best of players. Open the game on several fronts at once. Put the opponent immediately on the defensive. Won me my share of trophies. He always claimed he learned it from Russians….
I do not know this, but could the theatrics be a ploy to smoke out remaining “Stay Behind” Journos/Intellectuals/NGO puppets, let them out themselves yet more in the public eyes? You always read about this “Russian nesting doll” type of old KGB schemes, where there always is a plot within a plot, wrapped in a riddle et cetera.
I have a hard time believing that the Information Soldiers of Russia suddenly have gotten stupid.
Excellent 👍 Strongly agree with almost everything that you say Andrei. My 2 cents in 6 words: There should be NO negotiations whatsoever.
Talks make sense before hostilities begin. Any such excercise is a counter strategy – leaves troops wondering about the long term effects of their efforts + ALWAYS has this danger of coming across as some sort of attempt to strike peace bcoz of some ‘inherent weakness’.
Eastern philosophies recommend strongly against the talks & wars going side by side. In all historical wars recorded, efforts were made to avoid breakout of hostilities (even by Gods) but once the war/s broke out as destined, it was the side that ‘came across’ as strong, ruthless & uncompromising was the winner. Without exceptions.
Wishing Russia all the best. May it continue to rise, shine and prevail.
Russia should learn from eastern philosophies and their approach to statecraft and art of war. There is no better school.
You mention yesterday Shougu said that first part of the operation is completed.
Apparently it was about pinning Kiev force in place, detect and destroy weapons, ammunitions and fuel supplies..
The worry was more to make sense of Ukraine territory occupation. Now that worry is gone as Russian hint at only occupying / liberating Donbass territory. That makes a lot more sense that way..
Second part of the operation is probably exactly that: liberating Donbass.. but now, all military capability of Ukraine is destroyed, they almost cant even move their military.. so it looks very bright on the Russian side.
If the really look this cauldron in Donbass, 100 000 prisoners can be their bargaining chip to make sure UKraine wont join Nato and will give up on nuclear weapon.
At that point, except for spared Odessa Nazi grouping, all Russian objective have been reached
https://t.me/vicktop55/2579
Well, my forecast for refugees – 10 million, is already justified. But I change this forecast upwards to 15 million. And I think that everyone who is not going to fight should flee from Ukraine. Because there the whole war is still ahead: European authorities do not exclude that the number of refugees who left Ukraine could reach eight or even ten million in the coming months. According to the El Pais newspaper, such an assessment is given by European sources, citing UN data.
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https://t.me/vicktop55/2576
hey say that the Russians stopped the offensive, they are negotiating with Bandera. Here is what they write from Ukraine:
“You know, the worst nightmare of normal/decent Ukrainians (and there are many of us, they just chase us out with executions and torture) is the signing of a peace treaty with a gang of Nazis and drug addicts – we wake up in horror with the thought that we will remain under the rule of Zelensky, that we will be shot one by one, drowned, burned alive, cut out …”
“Many accuse us of inaction, that we are not fighting and have not taken up arms. But what makes your blood run cold now, we have seen all eight years, we lived with it.”
“If I shoot at an Azov man in self-defense, they will give me 15 years and rot in the press hut, the cops, the SBU, the Nazis will hunt for me. For the murder of a disloyal citizen, there will be absolutely nothing for the Azovites. We were slaughtered, kidnapped and shot, and no one answered for it…”
Original (Russian) of the above comments in italics https://t.me/vicktop55/2577
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https://t.me/vicktop55/2578
What can I tell you about the fact that they say “the Russians have withdrawn troops from Kyiv and Chernigov. The offensive will be limited by the Donbass. They are negotiating peace with Bandera,” I will say what I have said a hundred times already – Russia has no choice. Putin started this war because, as he said: “They didn’t leave us no choice.” I have said many times what this means. Therefore, I will not explain. I can only say that absolutely nothing has changed for Russia today – it has no choice. Because the goal, because of which the war was started, has never been achieved. So the war will continue. Because the fact that “there is no choice” means that there are no intermediate solutions, no compromises. I keep my prediction that this war, at best, will end within a year. I will not write about the possible number of victims, because you are afraid. Yes, I still see no reason why Russia may not end this war with a victory. The situation is getting worse, right, but I foresaw it, that’s why my forecast about the timing and victims was so cruel. However, this is the best option and it can only change for the worse. Looks like I didn’t reassure you very much…
And the weakness continues …
Ruble for gas delayed. And Pskov feels the need to defend the fact Crimea is part of Russia – after 8 years. And please no justifications like 4 dimensional chess or similar crap.
Like I said in the other thread where you posted a similar misdirection, reading comprehension needs work and these comments are worthless.
The Vatican bank, fwiw, just exchanged 10B Euros for Rubles from the Russian Central Bank, in order to pay for gas.
Peskov is absolutely correct. Let’s look at the quote again:
“New mechanisms on ruble payments for gas will not start operating from Thursday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says, adding that this process is lengthy.
“No, absolutely. Payment and deliveries are a time-consuming process,” Peskov told reporters when asked if new rules apply from March 31.”
So, one by one those that want to buy gas for Rubles must decide whether it is a contract, whether it is spot, how to do their agreement and it is a time-consuming process.
People must learn how the world works.
As not Russian, I think Russia must win this war, not in 5 years, not in 1 year, not in one month, it´s must be won by yesterday.
Any peace talks, and “reorganization” of troops and so on, is driving to strategic defeat for Russia.
Once you hurt your enemy with a knife, you must finish it. Any doubt in this moment is fatal.
You’re spot on, Andrei. “PR/PSYOP/Information operations” are not Russians’ forte. Just take a look at the so-called Russian’ state media outlets in English: RT and Sputniknews you would wonder what really is the purpose of those media. I have called attention to the Global Times as a comparison, the difference is so clear. But it’s probably a cultural thing. It’s good that Russia has a first-rate military and technology. Maybe that is enough. Although I doubt it.
The Saker describes this presser and ‘results’ of negotiations as a ‘faceplant’.
I’m going to take a different tack here – but hopefully not spend too much time on it.
Those negotiators have to talk to the dregs of the dregs. You don’t send your best to such a situation. You simply send the one that can recognize the situation and understand give and take of such situations. But, you do send somebody! I’ve done negotiations. Sometimes the other side deliberately dress in rags and don’t bath and stink, just to physically express disdain for your side. You don’t send your best for these kinds of meetings. You send someone that can close their nose.
Then, when these negotiators, good or bad, after excruciating meetings with dregs, actually received a proposal for real, something with some structure, they felt good. This is what negotiators live for .. something that they can take back home and discuss.
The faceplant in this instance I think is the overreaction from the wide Russia supporting community. In our thread here about this, the very first post described the nature .. From the Turkish presser:
📍 In no case are these provisions of the agreement, but only proposals from Kyiv. 👀
The very first two sentences in a fairly bumbling presser from the Russian side, clarified that they were putting forward the Ukrainian proposals. (Of course, we know that these Ukrainians are finger puppets so, we have to say the proposal from Washington). At no stage did those Russian negotiators say that this is good, bad or indifferent – they said they have something, it is good to have something, and will take it to their President.
But this did not stop the overreactive faceplant from the Russia supporting community and here on this blog, we had reams of ‘Russia Bad’ or ‘Russia lost the war’, or other inane comments, in some cases setting requirements that Russia never set, i.e., living in Disneyland.
So, while those Russian negotiators were pretty bumbling – the reaction from the wider community was even more telling.
Despite the nature of diplomats (and I fully accept that as a species they’ve done much harm), I think that if the commentators were in this war, with all the defeatist talk, and lack of reading comprehension, and lack of even trying to understand what was put in front of them, we would have lost this war.
I’ve said that since Russia demanded security guarantees back at the end of last year, the issue that surprised and shocked me most, was to understand the depth of Nazi philosophy and how inculcated that still is. I was shocked – I thought this was edge case and had to become aware that this is much wider than what I first thought.
Now, I’ve had my second shock and this is how very thin support is for Russia, even in our own communities. Our own communities turned on a dime. That to me is the shocking thing, and way more important than bumbling negotiators who have no agency when nothing is signed.
I want to again thank the very few commentators that saw this clearly from the outset and I’m talking about the first Sitrep on this issue.
Abramovich? He is protecting his assets, both in the Ukraine and in Turkey. Why else would a super rich fellow that has just been sanctioned (and Zelenski begged the US State not to sanction him), be there. This fellow is protecting assets. What can I say, its a dirty game and he propably has his hands on goolies in both countries.
Something like this is by no means up to diplomats at least on the Russian side. They are more like a waiter or a cook in a restaurant; they might do their job badly but won’t determine which dish you ordered. Any decision or outcome is Putin’s. These Russians also have a “plan” that they, starting with Putin, keep referring to strikingly (because they don’t have to say “plan” all the time). Their plan has given them a great tranquility which you see in their faces even. Anyone who tries to steer away from it might even get arrested (for sure).
“Now, I’ve had my second shock and this is how very thin support is for Russia, even in our own communities. Our own communities turned on a dime.” I suppose Russian communities, don’t know where – everywhere? Also, where is this very thin support for Russia that was a second shock?
auch, the comma got me. Thin support in your communities, got it.
If they ban the letter “z” what is their “president” going to call himself? Not being familiar with Cyrillic I don’t know how is name would be spelled, so this may be a mote point.
Enjoying this conversation. Thought I’d add a bit more on the topic of don’t freak out and the public information and state propaganda from the Five Eyes side.
First and foremost, I think it’s calming to step back and continually remember that the primary reason “Ukraine” has become an issue in Zone A in early 2022 is because “COVID” as a narrative and rallying cry for undermining traditional human rights and limited government within Zone A needed to be displaced from the front page of the “news”. It’s not, paradoxically, about Russia (or Russians or Russian culture or anything). From RFK Jr’s book to Pfizer’s safety data to Canadian Truckers the decentralized rebellion against the ruling class was just getting too big. So, the good professionals in the psyop world switched from ignoring/smearing dissent to changing the subject.
The second key objective is making the vassalage of the Eurolemmings more overt. With the plunder of wealth in America largely complete, the next logical place where there is still some broadly shared prosperity for the transnational western oligarchs to take is in the EU. Will Germany, Scandinavia, Italy, etc. eventually decide to be sovereign nations again? Or won’t they? Who knows, but fortunately for Russians (and Chinese) is that decision either way does not constrain Russia’s choice of whether or not to be a sovereign nation.
The third key western objective is to keep conflict going. Sure, if Putin called up Biden and said “we surrender, please come build bases in Russia” would the neocons be happy? Is the long term dream to occupy/balkanize Russia? Of course. But like a toddler, the present empire is just testing limits. The overarching goal is to keep the money flowing to the national security state actors within the West, not to defeat the non-West. That requires an adversary, not a victory. Victory is actually quite bad because it quite directly implies that 90% of the Five Eyes armaments/intel/banking/media/etc. expenditures should end.
M8 please, if you are not polite and not able to provide any answer please stop writing stupid comments. Saker blog do not deserve such low level comments as yours. Thanks in advance.
Worse than Z promotion is “Russia promotion” by the Western media. It’s becoming like promotion again. Before, it was all about how the Russians had determined Trump’s victory – that’s promotion. Then it was that their hacking could only be commented on afterwards. It was like admitted that it could not be stopped, maybe even admitted openly (don’t remember). You get the image? It’s beginning to get into the same embarrassing type of thing, and it’s a matter of “accumulation” too. Today’s New York Times headline is: “Russia Plays Down Talks and Keeps Up Attack in North.” There’s a column titled, “What if Putin didn’t Miscalculate?” They could have an advertisement on the side asking what will happen tomorrow. “Do not miss it!” How to avoid a promotion situation? The U.S. should be in a different position. We should not be “adversaries.” From an adversary’s standpoint, I think telling such stories and promotion become intertangled as we have seen already.
Tomorrow is the big piece meal for Russian response to the Sordid West / former partners. Tomorrow, 31st March, is when Hostile nations to Russia have to pay for energy in Rubles/Gold or BitCoin.
I hope energy flows stop if the hostile nations refuse.
Also it seems others in the world are selling off US Treasuries. Another front in the liberation of the planet from Wall St/City of London and their cronies in the fraudulent US$ Fractional Reserve Debt based Casino Capitalism. There is much pain ahead for the West but Empire has to die and may no other Empire rise to take it’s place.
Time for a better existence for humanity and this planet and it starts with sovereign people and respect.
I support the peace talks. Even if the Russian eliminate all ukroos, fascism will continue it is part of the human inferior nature unless a total spiritual awakening comes about and the deep roots of this evil is undone fascism will return in one way or the other.
Ukrainian secret services took hostages workers of civil nuclear industry of Russian Federation.
This would probably mean impossibility to deliver nuclear fuel for Ukrainian NPPs, which those very services would blame on Russia, not on their taking hostages.
Additionally, those workers now (depite being only logistics personnel) can be coerced to make any lunatic claims about “russian nuclear agression” or anything.
http://atominfo.ru/newsz04/a0786.htm
https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1087973
“US intel believes Putin’s advisers misleading him about Ukraine invasion” headline:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-intel-believes-putins-advisers-misleading-him-about-ukraine-invasion/
“US intelligence officials have determined that Russian President Vladimir Putin is being misinformed by his advisers about Russian forces’ performance in Ukraine, according to a US official.”
They should not tell it to the media, but to the President – this oddity alone may make the Russians laugh. And if the information is wrong, it gives them too much information about capabilities and inner workings, the other reason for telling it just to the man in charge and not to all of us.
It ends in worse than promotion: “The findings demonstrate a ‘clear breakdown in the flow of accurate information’ to Putin, and show that Putin’s senior advisers are ‘afraid to tell him the truth,’ the official says.”
What, is it about helping Putin to fix this problem? Why is it like a consulting company working for Putin to make things more efficient? Do their Russian colleagues or any colleagues file such news reports? (I have not seen them give a single news scoop like that in TASS.)
Promotions, counseling the “adversary” – why not get another job?
Okay, so here is the evil plan of Victoria Nuland and the neocons: exclude Russia and it seems China from UN and international fora. We already see how everything Russian is eradicated in Western countries. But is this not too late now?
Meyssan correctly points out that the fact that Ukraine attacked first on Ferbruary 17 has been eradicated from the conscience of people in the West.
This plan has been heard of before, of course. It will hurt EU/Europe immensely.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article216293.html
Mr. Saker, thank you for the very frank and truthful assessment. I wish all news was as sincere and honest.
Je ne comprends pas votre crainte de la communication russe sur les évènements actuels en Ukraine vers l’Europe.
Je suis un Français, tout ce qu’il y a de plus banal, mais vous vous attendiez à quoi de la part des médias ou politiques Français ou européens. Nous vivons dans une idiocratie, qui ne dit pas son nom, et le peuple rassurez vous, dans son ensemble, est à l’image des ses médias et représentants : des abrutis ou des lâches au choix.
Alors quelque soit la forme qu’aurait pu prendre la communication, du gouvernement russe, à propos de cette “guerre” de libération cela n’aurait pas changer grand choses pour des gens serviles et content de l’être, souvent…
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I don’t understand your fear of Russian communication about the current events in Ukraine towards Europe.
I am a Frenchman, all that there is of more banal, but you expected what on behalf of the media or French or European politicians. We live in an idiocracy, which does not say its name, and the people reassure you, as a whole, is in the image of its media and representatives: morons or cowards in the choice.
So whatever form the Russian government’s communication about this “war” of liberation might have taken, it wouldn’t have changed much for people who are servile and happy to be so, often…
Dear Andrei,
why do you assume unprofessionalism in the Russian public information strategy as the cause for this debacle, instead of just treason?
I see this very skilled move by upper pro-russian players: show the people that Putin´s talks about traitors is not theoretical. To substantiate this picture, put Abramovich in there.
Fact is, the degree of treason inside the Russian Ministries (Finance, ForeignA., Defense, Health, Education, even Presidential!) is not at all recognised by the Russian public – not even by you, Andrei. Putin seems to be trying to avoid the path of some predesessors – the instruments of repressions, which every time are tragically turned against the people – instead he seems to be going for evolutionary house cleaning. The only way to do this is to synchronise the masses – keyword is Public Opinion.
You identify columns (5th, 6th, etc.), but you seem to overlook the systemic nature and coordination between all the columns. Categorically differentiating between them would be reasonable if they had different goals. But they all act as if conducted by a single entity from outside Russia – they all have the same goal. It`s one column in different professions (Entertainment/Information, Military, Foreign Affairs, etc.). I mean to identify those professions and their specific instruments is one thing – but you never would think of, say, the Ukranian propaganda outlets as self-contained entities who act on their own on their own goals and motivations, would you?
With regards
siggi
I would say to me it seems like the Russian government is United, knows the what the why the how and doesn’t give a shit about the rest.
At its simplest which is still not good this will damage public perception and morale, but then again maybe it’s good. Weed out the easily misled and let the ones who are dying to westernize do so.
But then we have the Ramzan video….ramzan strikes me as the wise but still young and gung ho good cop bad cop bad cop guy. So maybe that was all a part of their scheme.
I have faith in Putin, but I do often worry about his closest circle cause no one man can do it all alone. And boy unlimited USD probably is tempting to some short minded people.
Time will tell, and I think God is on russias side because if not she would have been destroyed long ago ;)