Let’s not confront the eternally innocent West with some facts.
Arr, and btw, if Serbia refused to accept Kosovo these poor cannot join the fabulous “democratic” EU “Peace project”.
Well : 1+1 is sometimes 2 and sometimes it depends on the weather.
None of the western media mentioned in regards to the 1944 ESC song, that the Red Army freed Crimea from 2 years of brutal mass-slaughteruing Nazi occupation (let alone with whom the heroic Tatars sided).
While they blame Putin for being the new Stalin, brutal dictator, what not braintrash they write. I don’t read it because I simply cannot.
This leaves a question: Why wasn’t the wonderful patriotic RT or Sputnik or TASS writing (or at least reposting) something like your 1944 article?
Because they are 5th column _traitors_.
After Putin is aware of that fact plus understands English and German I sincerely (!!!) have to wonder why he let’s them come away with that. This was a uinique chance to teach the pro-russian audiences the truth about the real events. Instead RT is as always full of camitalist ads and reports about the cat on some island which eat some ice cream. That’s why I don’t follow blindly. And that’s why I’m very disappointed and – angry!
So, instead of complaining to this small readership base here maybe you should alert other forces directly in Moscow.
Something is not going well.
By and large our Tatari are not a problem in Krimu and Sevastopol and never have been.
The Mejlis, on the other hand, has been a problem since it’s inception. Mejlis was given a free hand to run the Bachti Sarai region surrounding the Tatar Khanate capitol of the same name.
Restoration of the Khanate Palace in that town started around 2000 and is ongoing today. The huge funds given to Mejlis for that restoration generally disappeared in to Mejlis pockets the moment the monies arrived. Infrastructure funds in that berg for maintenance and repair likewise went missing instantly but in Mejlis defense in regards to that little foible they were no different than the orcs and ethnic Russians on this island who looted everything they could and in many instances this looting is going on to this day, perpetrated not only by local officialdom, many of whom simply changed the lapel pin flag from orc to Russia and continued going about their merry way, but also the hordes of carpetbaggers who arrived from the mainland ten minutes after our little Russian Spring on this island. As an aside Russia immediately stepped in to help finish the palace restoration and now it is almost complete.
All the Tatari we know are still enthused about the change of landlord in Krimu and Sevastopol. At the very beginning of the Russian Spring and even before the coup d’etat in Kiev was successful some we know were getting nervous about the events up north. When it got down to brass tacks and we started blockading the roads to Krimu and our cities on the island it was our local Tatari who provided the heavy trucks, the concrete barricades and the cranes to install them on the T2707 at Belbek, the H06 a couple clicks east of the Simforopol Ring and the H19 just east of the Yalta Ring near Balaklava. I do not know about the rest of the island but it is fact that Tatari arrived shortly after the bovine scatology hit the whirling blades and directly assisted everywhere they could in our area and also helped man the barricades 24/7. Tatari women were well represented in the field kitchens established at the barricades and Tatari helped greatly in supplying the locals at the barricades and field kitchens.
Bachti Sarai itself, the Mejlis tried to stir up some trouble using both local Tatari and some ‘Tatari’ who had arrived since the last war in Chechnya and took up residence in villages and small towns in the Bachti Sarai area. Mejlis was not successful in this endeavor and within days of the referendum and the return of the island and Sevastopol to Russia Mejlis saw the handwriting on the wall and ran to orcland as fast as they could. Their numbers are in the 4500 to 5000 range and about a third of the ‘Tatari’ who ran north were the undocumented ones who arrived from Chechnya. Those with no documents or in most cases false orc documents well knew that Russia was looking for them since that war and took the opportunity to head for greener pastures.
Today Bachti Sarai is calm and peaceful. The roads are still, as of a month ago, dreadful in that berg and actually in Sevastopol also. However, Tatari are generally interested in business and work. They own business ranging from the very largest in this island to tiny roadside kiosks. They raise many of the fresh fruits and vegetables we enjoy year round in their hothouses, they provide fresh meats at the market in Bachti Sarai (and the finest all beef sausage you will have ever had the pleasure of tasting) and the range of other goods that they seem to be able to obtain is quite amazing.
The reality is Mejlis never had more than 10% or less of support from the Tatar populace. That support dwindled rapidly after the referendum when information became available of the extent of both Turk and Kiev monetary support for the Tatari and the crumbs of that support which actually went to the ordinary Tatari. The icing on the cake was when Mejlis took down the electric supply system from orcland which the peninsula paid handsomely for and in advance (the December payment was made in November and you guessed it, the towers came down the next day). Suddenly hundreds of Tatari had no electric to heat and pump water to their extensive greenhouse growing operations and thousands of their businesses could not operate with no electric for lighting and heat. The economic affects of the energy blockade was devastating for them but Russia instantly began to provide generators to them so at least the agricultural parts of their economy could continue. For non agricultural businesses the Tatari were treated the same as everyone else, they had to buy their own generators. Hospitals, clinics and schools were provided with generators by the Krim government and in most cases the very large units needed for hospitals and schools were supplied by the army using mobile field generators, exactly as was done in Sevastopol.
All the Tatari we know, and two families are living right on our block in this little village, are still in agreement with what we did in early ’14. Of course there is grumbling from time to time but then the ethnic Russian populace also grumbles and much more often than the Tatari. We go to Bachti Sarai every two weeks or so for the fresh meats and foods and of course my charming bride always has to go in the fabric shops, nose around for choice fabrics and yarns she wants but mainly to talk to the Tatar women in the shops. The Tatar women are the bell weather of the Tatari in general and she clearly states that before and during our revolution in ’14 Tatar women were worried and in many cases frightened. By early summer of ’14 this worry was gone, the women knew there would be no deportations and no repercussions for anyone for the infinitesimal support given to the orcs by Tatari. How does my wife get along so well with Tatari? She is half Tatar and looks it and speaks Tatar. Her family is something that is not rare for Tatari in that the family has been Orthodox Christian since before the revolution of 1917. The shop keepers in Bachti Sarai and Sevastopol know she is married to a foreigner, we do not keep that a secret.
Bottom line, peace reigns on this island and especially in Bachti Sarai Region regardless of the breathless wails from The West Media and governments.
Just you wait. Very soon, the western narrative will shift to something like “Because we kept the pressure on, Putin had to continue providing for the Tatars and Crimeans in general. Had we not applied sanctions and EFFECTIVE diplomatic pressure from all sides, it would have been another 1944 style Tatar expulsion from Crimea”. Stay tuned, they’re going to do/say it, I can assure you. Now that most of the attentive world can plainly see that Crimea and ALL of its inhabitants are doing much better than they were under kiev, I’d even say vastly better, the US/EU/Kiev axis will try to save face and take credit for it. They’re going try to convince the rest of the world that it’s because of them, I’m telling you. There is no way they are going to allow Russia/Putin to receive credit for a job well done, without throwing some last jabs, as the slink back in their sinking pits. Within two years Russia/Putin has made Crimea power independent from ukraine, started building the first of two new local electrical power producing plants and are well underway building a vehicular as well as a rail bridge to Russia proper, so Crimeans don’t have to engage kiev-ukraine for anything, not even water. Does anyone here truly believe the US/EU/Kiev axis WILL NOT try claiming that their continued and uncompromising economic and diplomatic pressure forced Russia/Putin into doing what they are doing? You know they will. LOL-LOL-LOL.
I have been meeting up to date Scott previous spot re tatars….ie Rus human rights person is to visit tatars to ensure they are not being violated…..sighs!
Rt is also funding at what seems to be at first glance a balanced article from 19th under the Open edge tab……..huzzah interpretative test not ######## up this time…..yes it did I wrote text and it change it to test.
Monday, May 23, 2016 – 10:51
In the near future not Ukraine, but Russia will be acting on the international scene as a speaker of the Crimean Tatars’ opinion.
In particular, this tendency is highlighted by The Ukrajinsky Tyzhden (UT) magazine which calls the issue brought up in article ‘troubling and painful’.
So, in the publication it is noted that the mufti of Spiritual Directorate of the Muslims of the Crimea and Sevastopol (SDMCS) Emirali Ablayev condemned the initiators of the blockade of the Crimea.
‘Former connections with Turkey were succeeded by the new ones – with the Islamic organizations in the Russian Federation: only at the Russian Islamic Institute there are now studying more than 70 Crimean Tatars. Even the recent participation of the mufti Emirali Ablayev in the congress of the interregional movement Kjyrym, which the invaders try to develop as an alternative to the forbidden Mejlis, eloquently demonstrates formation of the pro-Russian vector among the Crimean Tatars. In the statement of January 7, 2016 the Council of SDMCS urged representatives of the ethnos not to enter the ‘armed groups’ of Ukraine though it hasn’t reacted to the call-out to the ranks of the Russian army in any way,’ takes on the magazine.
The forecast for supporters of the Ukrainian Crimea is unfavourable, underlines the periodical.
‘Already soon Russia will be acting on the international scene (using SDMCS) as a defender and speaker of the Crimean Muslims and it will be more difficult for our state (Ukraine) to convince the world community in the opposite,’ summarizes UT.
DONi News Agency
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Original: Komsomolskaya Pravda
The Moscow city court upheld a ban on the entry of the leader of the Mejlis Mustafa Dzhemilev into Crimea. He will now appeal the Moscow city court’s decision in the Supreme court of the Russian Federation.
As is known, the court cannot consider questions of foreign territories. That is, by referring to the courts of Russia, Dzhemilev recognized de facto that Crimea is under the jurisdiction of the judicial system of Russia, and therefore Russia itself.
If the Supreme court does not lift the ban on visits of the leader of the Crimean Tatar people to the Peninsula, he is going to seek justice at the European court of human rights. In fact, Dzhemilev will put the Europeans in an uncomfortable position. By acknowledging the existence of his appeal at the judicial system of the Russian Federation, the European court also recognizes that Crimea is territory in the jurisdiction of Russia, and we are not talking about any occupation.
If he thinks Crimea is occupied – he should not go to the Russian court, he should go to Kiev. But by appealing to the judicial system of Russia, then, he recognizes Crimea as being Russian.
Dzhemilev is almost a separatist. He acknowledged that Crimea belongs to Russia. Let’s see if the personal data of Dzhemilev will be on the “Peacemaker” website…”http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/05/mustafa-dzhemilev-admits-that-crimea.html
Let’s not confront the eternally innocent West with some facts.
Arr, and btw, if Serbia refused to accept Kosovo these poor cannot join the fabulous “democratic” EU “Peace project”.
Well : 1+1 is sometimes 2 and sometimes it depends on the weather.
None of the western media mentioned in regards to the 1944 ESC song, that the Red Army freed Crimea from 2 years of brutal mass-slaughteruing Nazi occupation (let alone with whom the heroic Tatars sided).
While they blame Putin for being the new Stalin, brutal dictator, what not braintrash they write. I don’t read it because I simply cannot.
This leaves a question: Why wasn’t the wonderful patriotic RT or Sputnik or TASS writing (or at least reposting) something like your 1944 article?
Because they are 5th column _traitors_.
After Putin is aware of that fact plus understands English and German I sincerely (!!!) have to wonder why he let’s them come away with that. This was a uinique chance to teach the pro-russian audiences the truth about the real events. Instead RT is as always full of camitalist ads and reports about the cat on some island which eat some ice cream. That’s why I don’t follow blindly. And that’s why I’m very disappointed and – angry!
So, instead of complaining to this small readership base here maybe you should alert other forces directly in Moscow.
Something is not going well.
More ‘forbidden’ facts about the Crimean Tartars from Anatoly Karlin: Trigger Warning: Crimean Tatars Support Russia.
Great post hoping for more news from Crimea
By and large our Tatari are not a problem in Krimu and Sevastopol and never have been.
The Mejlis, on the other hand, has been a problem since it’s inception. Mejlis was given a free hand to run the Bachti Sarai region surrounding the Tatar Khanate capitol of the same name.
Restoration of the Khanate Palace in that town started around 2000 and is ongoing today. The huge funds given to Mejlis for that restoration generally disappeared in to Mejlis pockets the moment the monies arrived. Infrastructure funds in that berg for maintenance and repair likewise went missing instantly but in Mejlis defense in regards to that little foible they were no different than the orcs and ethnic Russians on this island who looted everything they could and in many instances this looting is going on to this day, perpetrated not only by local officialdom, many of whom simply changed the lapel pin flag from orc to Russia and continued going about their merry way, but also the hordes of carpetbaggers who arrived from the mainland ten minutes after our little Russian Spring on this island. As an aside Russia immediately stepped in to help finish the palace restoration and now it is almost complete.
All the Tatari we know are still enthused about the change of landlord in Krimu and Sevastopol. At the very beginning of the Russian Spring and even before the coup d’etat in Kiev was successful some we know were getting nervous about the events up north. When it got down to brass tacks and we started blockading the roads to Krimu and our cities on the island it was our local Tatari who provided the heavy trucks, the concrete barricades and the cranes to install them on the T2707 at Belbek, the H06 a couple clicks east of the Simforopol Ring and the H19 just east of the Yalta Ring near Balaklava. I do not know about the rest of the island but it is fact that Tatari arrived shortly after the bovine scatology hit the whirling blades and directly assisted everywhere they could in our area and also helped man the barricades 24/7. Tatari women were well represented in the field kitchens established at the barricades and Tatari helped greatly in supplying the locals at the barricades and field kitchens.
Bachti Sarai itself, the Mejlis tried to stir up some trouble using both local Tatari and some ‘Tatari’ who had arrived since the last war in Chechnya and took up residence in villages and small towns in the Bachti Sarai area. Mejlis was not successful in this endeavor and within days of the referendum and the return of the island and Sevastopol to Russia Mejlis saw the handwriting on the wall and ran to orcland as fast as they could. Their numbers are in the 4500 to 5000 range and about a third of the ‘Tatari’ who ran north were the undocumented ones who arrived from Chechnya. Those with no documents or in most cases false orc documents well knew that Russia was looking for them since that war and took the opportunity to head for greener pastures.
Today Bachti Sarai is calm and peaceful. The roads are still, as of a month ago, dreadful in that berg and actually in Sevastopol also. However, Tatari are generally interested in business and work. They own business ranging from the very largest in this island to tiny roadside kiosks. They raise many of the fresh fruits and vegetables we enjoy year round in their hothouses, they provide fresh meats at the market in Bachti Sarai (and the finest all beef sausage you will have ever had the pleasure of tasting) and the range of other goods that they seem to be able to obtain is quite amazing.
The reality is Mejlis never had more than 10% or less of support from the Tatar populace. That support dwindled rapidly after the referendum when information became available of the extent of both Turk and Kiev monetary support for the Tatari and the crumbs of that support which actually went to the ordinary Tatari. The icing on the cake was when Mejlis took down the electric supply system from orcland which the peninsula paid handsomely for and in advance (the December payment was made in November and you guessed it, the towers came down the next day). Suddenly hundreds of Tatari had no electric to heat and pump water to their extensive greenhouse growing operations and thousands of their businesses could not operate with no electric for lighting and heat. The economic affects of the energy blockade was devastating for them but Russia instantly began to provide generators to them so at least the agricultural parts of their economy could continue. For non agricultural businesses the Tatari were treated the same as everyone else, they had to buy their own generators. Hospitals, clinics and schools were provided with generators by the Krim government and in most cases the very large units needed for hospitals and schools were supplied by the army using mobile field generators, exactly as was done in Sevastopol.
All the Tatari we know, and two families are living right on our block in this little village, are still in agreement with what we did in early ’14. Of course there is grumbling from time to time but then the ethnic Russian populace also grumbles and much more often than the Tatari. We go to Bachti Sarai every two weeks or so for the fresh meats and foods and of course my charming bride always has to go in the fabric shops, nose around for choice fabrics and yarns she wants but mainly to talk to the Tatar women in the shops. The Tatar women are the bell weather of the Tatari in general and she clearly states that before and during our revolution in ’14 Tatar women were worried and in many cases frightened. By early summer of ’14 this worry was gone, the women knew there would be no deportations and no repercussions for anyone for the infinitesimal support given to the orcs by Tatari. How does my wife get along so well with Tatari? She is half Tatar and looks it and speaks Tatar. Her family is something that is not rare for Tatari in that the family has been Orthodox Christian since before the revolution of 1917. The shop keepers in Bachti Sarai and Sevastopol know she is married to a foreigner, we do not keep that a secret.
Bottom line, peace reigns on this island and especially in Bachti Sarai Region regardless of the breathless wails from The West Media and governments.
Auslander
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You will be able to check out the new memorial to the deportations………..
Just you wait. Very soon, the western narrative will shift to something like “Because we kept the pressure on, Putin had to continue providing for the Tatars and Crimeans in general. Had we not applied sanctions and EFFECTIVE diplomatic pressure from all sides, it would have been another 1944 style Tatar expulsion from Crimea”. Stay tuned, they’re going to do/say it, I can assure you. Now that most of the attentive world can plainly see that Crimea and ALL of its inhabitants are doing much better than they were under kiev, I’d even say vastly better, the US/EU/Kiev axis will try to save face and take credit for it. They’re going try to convince the rest of the world that it’s because of them, I’m telling you. There is no way they are going to allow Russia/Putin to receive credit for a job well done, without throwing some last jabs, as the slink back in their sinking pits. Within two years Russia/Putin has made Crimea power independent from ukraine, started building the first of two new local electrical power producing plants and are well underway building a vehicular as well as a rail bridge to Russia proper, so Crimeans don’t have to engage kiev-ukraine for anything, not even water. Does anyone here truly believe the US/EU/Kiev axis WILL NOT try claiming that their continued and uncompromising economic and diplomatic pressure forced Russia/Putin into doing what they are doing? You know they will. LOL-LOL-LOL.
I have been meeting up to date Scott previous spot re tatars….ie Rus human rights person is to visit tatars to ensure they are not being violated…..sighs!
Anna news has a link today to a spurious discusion about the tatars
Apologies I did not mean spurious the interpretative test thingy is meeting me up. I mean studio discussion with a learned person…….
Rt is also funding at what seems to be at first glance a balanced article from 19th under the Open edge tab……..huzzah interpretative test not ######## up this time…..yes it did I wrote text and it change it to test.
Monday, May 23, 2016 – 10:51
In the near future not Ukraine, but Russia will be acting on the international scene as a speaker of the Crimean Tatars’ opinion.
In particular, this tendency is highlighted by The Ukrajinsky Tyzhden (UT) magazine which calls the issue brought up in article ‘troubling and painful’.
So, in the publication it is noted that the mufti of Spiritual Directorate of the Muslims of the Crimea and Sevastopol (SDMCS) Emirali Ablayev condemned the initiators of the blockade of the Crimea.
‘Former connections with Turkey were succeeded by the new ones – with the Islamic organizations in the Russian Federation: only at the Russian Islamic Institute there are now studying more than 70 Crimean Tatars. Even the recent participation of the mufti Emirali Ablayev in the congress of the interregional movement Kjyrym, which the invaders try to develop as an alternative to the forbidden Mejlis, eloquently demonstrates formation of the pro-Russian vector among the Crimean Tatars. In the statement of January 7, 2016 the Council of SDMCS urged representatives of the ethnos not to enter the ‘armed groups’ of Ukraine though it hasn’t reacted to the call-out to the ranks of the Russian army in any way,’ takes on the magazine.
The forecast for supporters of the Ukrainian Crimea is unfavourable, underlines the periodical.
‘Already soon Russia will be acting on the international scene (using SDMCS) as a defender and speaker of the Crimean Muslims and it will be more difficult for our state (Ukraine) to convince the world community in the opposite,’ summarizes UT.
DONi News Agency
might be worth following up
COLUMNISTS
MAP OF HOSTILITIES – 25/01/2015
VOLUNTEERS
MILITARY BRIEFINGS
INTERVIEWS & OPINIONS
EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS
CRIMEA, GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR, RUSSIA, USSR
Why does the truth about the war create a conflict between us and the Crimean Tatars? Part 2
POSTED BY EF19450509 ⋅ MAY 22, 2016 ⋅ LEAVE A COMMENT
FILED UNDER BERIA, CRIMEA, CRIMEAN TATARS, GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR, RUSSIA, STALIN
Original: Komsomolskaya Pravda
https://slavyangrad.org/2016/05/22/why-is-the-truth-about-the-war-creates-a-conflict-between-us-and-the-crimean-tatars-part-2/
article. video here in russian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6w7Gs-s6UU
part 1 here
https://slavyangrad.org/2016/05/22/why-does-the-truth-about-the-war-still-cause-us-to-quarrel-with-the-crimean-tatars-part-1/
A short cartoon (no need to know Russian), very funny, depicting what *really* happened between the Tatars and Navalny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0D4YjvLOcQ
The Moscow city court upheld a ban on the entry of the leader of the Mejlis Mustafa Dzhemilev into Crimea. He will now appeal the Moscow city court’s decision in the Supreme court of the Russian Federation.
As is known, the court cannot consider questions of foreign territories. That is, by referring to the courts of Russia, Dzhemilev recognized de facto that Crimea is under the jurisdiction of the judicial system of Russia, and therefore Russia itself.
If the Supreme court does not lift the ban on visits of the leader of the Crimean Tatar people to the Peninsula, he is going to seek justice at the European court of human rights. In fact, Dzhemilev will put the Europeans in an uncomfortable position. By acknowledging the existence of his appeal at the judicial system of the Russian Federation, the European court also recognizes that Crimea is territory in the jurisdiction of Russia, and we are not talking about any occupation.
If he thinks Crimea is occupied – he should not go to the Russian court, he should go to Kiev. But by appealing to the judicial system of Russia, then, he recognizes Crimea as being Russian.
Dzhemilev is almost a separatist. He acknowledged that Crimea belongs to Russia. Let’s see if the personal data of Dzhemilev will be on the “Peacemaker” website…”http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/05/mustafa-dzhemilev-admits-that-crimea.html