This one just out.I’m lost.I don’t understand anything anymore.Now ENGIE(former EDF GDF) a french partly state owned big elec/gaz company,just signed a mega LPG contract with Novatek for 23 years.This for one billion tons of russian gaz.
Why do they make so many problems for the Mistral and here ‘it is ok guys’ no problem anymore we can work with Russia.It is not logical…double standard?
It’s a long term contract. The idea is that their “problem” with Russia will have been sold in the next 23 years, probably through war; hence the refusal to deliver the Mistral as it would strengthen Russia in the immediate future. This points to the whole thing picking up speed.
Anonymous, I wd caution the Russians that contracts with a non-sovereign entity cannot be taken seriously. If US can compel them to violate one contract why not also another?
18+ Horrific details of the MH17. The plane that never crashed.
[MOD: sorry, we are not going there AGAIN. MH17 scene was staged, the bodies were fake etc etc we have seen it before and it was nonsense then, too. I am not letting you post the link].
Brilliant interview thank you for posting. Lavrov doesn’t give much away; he is firm and not wishy washy.
Key points for me:
The way he summed up syria that they put the fate of one man above tge threat of isis/l
The proposal for the removal of the iran sanctions was interesting.
The meeting with kerry was more symbolic than substantive.
I don’t understand why Lavrov, Putin & RT all give the evil US moral cover by pretending that they are acting for justifiable reasons.
“The US will have to decide whether Assad is more dangerous than ISIS.”
Lavrov knows perfectly well that the aggression against Syria is about pipelines and about weakening Syrian allies Iran & Russia.
Throughout the interview he pretended to believe that the US wishes to destroy ISIS, when he knows that US supplies ISIS thru Turkey & Jordan.
Surely it is harmful to tell lies publicly which whitewash evil.
I like Lavrov but I do not understand this Russian tactic.
>I don’t understand why Lavrov, Putin & RT all give the evil US moral cover by pretending that they are acting for justifiable reasons.
It the core idea of diplomacy.
When Lavrov stops talking polite with US expect tanks to roll (and quite probably nukes to fall).
It is sad how diplomacy has been destroyed recently by Western block. People talking as the representatives of countries seem to have a patience of 5 year olds. Diplomacy has historically been patient work – talking, talking and talking. Always politely, always pretending that other party is your friend. Lavrov is one of the few great masters of diplomacy in current world and listening to him is always refreshing.
“You know, so many of us are like turkeys convinced that the farmer has their best interests at heart because every day he comes with food and drink. Until one day he shows up with a knife.”
Therein lies the problem – when individuals are elevated to such a pedestal that, no matter how they act, their actions are never considered as anything but good.
I’m afraid Mr Lavrov’s actions do make sense but only as a member of the the World cabal.
@Penelope
What is most important in diplomacy is the end goal: securing your country’s national interests while avoiding war. Making blatant accusations about your interlocutors achieves nothing but makes diplomacy impossible. For example if Lavrov were to make those accusations, the US would just deny them and label him a conspiracy theorist. End of story. Those of us who know these fact would get a warm fuzzy feeling at being vindicated and supported by Lavrov. But those accusations would render diplomacy, and hence the prospect of achieving the end goal, much more difficult.
Notice that Russia as a country does in fact make those accusation outside the diplomatic field. Putin himself has suggested these things. More often lower level figures are brought out to make those points, military and intelligence community leaders, duma deputies etc But the diplomatic arena is left uncontaminated by strong language and accusation, precisiely so that it can efficiently perform its function.
Its true, though, that the US does not take the same approach. Top US “diplomats” are famously arrogant and even abusive towards their interlocutors. But thats rooted in US culture and a belief that the US is the sole superpower and does’nt have to pretend to be nice to anyone.
the whole point of diplomacy is to de-escalate rhetoric. you can start worrying when Russian diplomats fall silent – that’s when things get ominous on their part. As long as they are talking, nukes won’t fly.
In the current situation, Russia vs the Beast, it’s best to give the adversary a way out. Even if the realization occurs after conversation.
Kerry (Kohn) has a long history in Mass., a local radio host – Howie Carr has made fun of this sad clown for decades. I feel bad for this idiot and the choices that his ego has compelled him to take. He is, however, the best diplomat that the USSA has promulgated in quite some time. Pathetic.
Penelope…its a bit frustrating that you are so sure you know best what the Foreign Minister should do. He knows the real deal…just because he doesn’t spill the beans on the favorite news show in the USA doesn’t mean he’s a gangster.
What an annoying ignorant boorish jerk from Bloomberg -always interrupting.
Mindless questions of the ‘how long is a piece of string’ genre.
Don’t you just hate people who ask you a question and then, as you are trying to answer, interrupt and give you ‘your’ answer, twisting it to their spin? They then often switch the subject to another question before you have negated their spin on the previous question.
But Sanctuary, is not the rude behavior of the interviewer there precisely to encourage you to react emotionally, to so polarize your evaluation that you cannot think logically about the view of reality which Lavrov too is espousing?
“It is a ‘mistake’ for US to engage ISIS in Syria w/o govt permission.”
No, it was a strategic US decision to do so in order to aid ISIS in emergencies, and to exclude Syrian troops from certain areas. Since US began air action in Syria, ISIS has gained territory, from the beginning.
Please don’t allow our admiration for Lavrov’s diplomatic, polite mein to blind us to the substantive issues. Precisely because he is such a good wordsmith he could have told more of the truth and have avoided lies w/o being rude.
He could have said at least, “The US air action in Syria has had a negative effect on the ability of the Syrian army to combat ISIS– especially when supplies are accidentally dropped to ISIS.” or “The part of US intelligence in creating ISIS may have had unintended results.” or “As we all know every military requires supply lines. ISIS supply lines come from NATO-member Turkey and from Jordan.
We need to close these supply lines.”
Diplomacy does not require that you join the deception which is destroying entire nations. On the contrary it requires the opposite.
Lavrov’s task there, more than simply negate the view that Bloomberg and his minion want to impress on their viewers, must also be to further his own view on the basis of the (dis)information accessible to those viewers. One cannot expect the same level of acceptance of certain arguments, conclusions from different audiences.
I wouldn’t see these performances as lying or less truthful just for the sake of being polite or “diplomatic”. It is a requirement of pedagogy, of teaching to start and proceed with a basic understanding of an issue which may not be fully coherent with the more complex comprehension one achieves in the end. This is observable in science and is not exclusive to politics where human judgement and degrees of arbitrariness are more prominent.
Lavrov is just adapting to his expected audience and “flexing” just enough so that what he has to say is not edited out as much as possible. Imo it is exacly here where he shines most and where he earns his credit.
He dealt with the “US boots on the ground in Syria” perfectly.
Penelope,
Putin perhaps said it best during one of his open press conferences when describing diplomats -something to the effect that “their tongues hide what their heads are thinking” . That’s what they practice to achieve the discussions, compromises, Intel, trades, and understanding when discussing another country’s views and strategy.
In essence they are schooled in practiced insincerities and often portray patrician arrogance.
Lavrov is an exception in that he never loses it, he is adept at only lettting out sufficient information to cover the question without giving anything away that could harm Russia or its interests and he can couch the message he wants to convey is a non-inflammatory and highly articulate manner. He is never arrogant.
You have to listen to and analyse very carefully his understated responses and if they are not what you want him to say there is probably a very good reason for it.
Diplomacy mostly happens behind the scenes and frequently does not reflect what is publicly stated.
America needs a new Constitution that really spells out the need for a strong central government run by elitist busybodies to tell both Americans and the entire world what to do.
Well it looks like 4th place UK is already having headlines that they will host the 2018 World Cup and Blatter resigning (even though he will still be there until EGM) already shows Russia and Qatar will be stripped:
wishful thinking by Western zombies.
I think they would not be that stupid. But they would be more sneaky: simply change the hosting of the 2018 and 2022 world cup to some other countries, just to “poke you in the eye”.
I just felt like…as soon as I saw the headline…those Zios’…they did this…because they probably are funding Blatter et al…..and I have heard…that the whole of FIFA is crooked….and now here I go doing a Penelope…..Putin stands behind that crook Blatter because of what Russia might get out of it in the end…and obviously didn’t….
Mr.Lavrov is a gentleman and the example how the diplomacy should be done. In this interview we can clearly see who is the gentleman and who is the /sorry /asshole
I encourage all Russians brothers to boycot ALL countries which are involing in destruction of Russian economy. On the one hand, those nations are happy that Russian tourists contribute to their prosperity, on the other hand, they weaken Russian economy, for they fear its power. What’s a hypocrisy! We must keep in mind that the U.S.A. are behind all the mess which happen in the world. Western Europe and other of their allies in the world are just their puppets. USA target Ukraine which remains a very important source of Russian imports. They hope of leading Russia back to its former situation after the collapse of the U.S.S.R. Therefore, beyond their national pride, all Russians must show their resistance, bocoytting all NATO countries, if they want to avoid their children a harsh life, like in the time of the Soviet Union collapse. Russians, it’s your duty!
The Krellin propaganda machine of new Boris Berezovsky in full action like was with former presidend Boris Jeltsin ,and puppets of oligharhs former Minister of Foreign Affairs Igor Ivanov and UN abassador Sergey Lavrov.
Antiwar.com’s article was merely a beginning of the Empire’s shout from the rooftops, following the Kerry-Lavrov meeting in Moscow on Syria: “Russians left Syria!”
It is now clear that antiwar.com’s article on Syria, which I highlighted and critiqued yesterday, was but an early start of a new propaganda, political and military offensive led by the US and all al Qaeda wings and branches trained, armed, and thrown by the US/Empire-led coalition against Syria.
For, in content and message, nearly identical articles are showing up today in the Western “mainstream” corporate media, as exemplified here by the International Business Times, prominently featured today on Yahoo news feed. This start of this new big offensive, which is backed by large ISIS offensives on the ground, comes just several days after Kerry met Lavrov in Moscow last week and after Lavrov and Kerry both boasted and bragged how positive the meeting was and how they “began to agree” with each other.
While Donbass is being strangled by Minsk phony ceasefire, the US and al Qaeda armies are trying hard to knock out Syria and reduce Russia to “partnership” in her self-effacement and isolation.
In terms of the political message, both antiwar.com and the Western corporate media are now triumphantly claiming that “the Russians left Syria.”
Those who followed me for some time do know by now that, it has been already some time since I started thinking of not quite few Lavrov’s pronouncements and positions as lame.
In the face of the US-led new great push against Syria with the help of all the al Qaedas and their variously coded and fancifully named brigades, Russia can (of course?) duck and avoid taking any public and principled stance, but one can have no doubt that the destruction of Syria and the regime change there is the sole objective of the Empire. The other strategic objective is creating the best possible conditions for a destruction and regime change in Russia as well and Syria and creating an image of Russia as an unreliable ally and friend is a major objective for which Syria itself is but a means and prerequisite.
The Empire is systematic and its foreign policy is well planned. Russia matches this with appeals to “partnership,” which the West does not even bother to pay attention to for the West is content to paint Putin as a “new Hitler” and Russia as an Ebola virus, the “aggressor” who happens to be a state and who also happens to sit over the largest land real estate in the world.
I feel certain that one day we’ll wake up to hear of a targeted assassination in Russia of you know who – and what will we be told? That it was Islamic terrorists.
Maybe it will be Islamic terrorists – but we all know who will be standing behind them and spinning such a scenario to their own ends.
If this scenario will happen /we just have to hope it will never happen / he has a much stronger substitute for himself as he have already mentioned.
Russia at this time is very well prepared for the attack, and before all of the lies will be revealed to the world with the concrete evidence, let the earth to shake and clean up from these evil parasites
Just an idea here – Russians should just sale to the Syrian coast with a few warships and give Isis some serious beating with rockets etc. on their command/logistics bases and fuel storage. Just because USA doesn’t really do any of that right now despite all their “we bomb isis” propaganda nonsense. Noone could say a word against that move in the west, they would simply have no viable way to make bad PR with that.
But such a bold move would only be viable if they exactly knew where to hit and those strikes would really change the situation on the ground for the better, from the syrian/iraqi POV.
I guess columns of white Toyota Hilux should be rather easy to spot ;)
Lavrov should have been firmer in stating that Russia wants the best outcome for the Greek people. A real solution, not piling more debt onto the Greek people by “kicking the can down the road”.
A little disappointed to not hear Lavrov outline that Russia would be very willing to help Greece find a productive solution that increases the welfare and prosperity of the Greek people. ie, Russia is not the slightest bit interested in placing more burdens on the Greek people.
He could have and should have said something along those lines – in his usual diplomatic way of course.
“On May 29, 2015, Ukraine’s official delegation to the United Nations informed the world that Ukraine recognized its sea and land borders with the Republic of Crimea”.
““On May 29, 2015, Ukraine’s official delegation to the United Nations informed the world that Ukraine recognized its sea and land borders with the Republic of Crimea”.
I can not find any confirmation for this news. Neither on http://mfa.gov.ua/en nor Ukrainian embassy web site in my country (as the note claim).
The interviewer couldn’t help himself and let his sheer arrogance go on a binge stampede, across whatever neutral lines were still left intact.
Lavrov’s command of the English language should have impressed the hell out of this nitwit [any idea how this interview would have gone down the pipeline, had FM Lavrov demanded it be held in Russian?], but you can’t be a tool and a shed.
BTW, it is my guess that Lavrov only agreed to this interview on the condition that he/his personnel receive a complete copy… otherwise the “just and fair” MSM will pick and choose snippets just to paint a dirty picture!
There is no new evidence from him, and the rest of the story covers the 2-day-old report from the BUK manufacturer that it could not have been one of theirs.
They don’t put out something like this to waste time. They do it to remind people they might know something.
Here also is translation of a recent interview by a Dutch journalist with a real witness, a guy in one of the villages the plane fell onto. He’s been saying he saw it ever since about July 18 and everyone ignores him. BUT he was watching through a telescope (and chances are he was doing so on purpose, ie not for fun but to warn of approaching fighters). With VIDEO but in Russian only. http://7mei.nl/2015/05/30/lev/
All smoke and mirrors – all talking about FIFA whilst all the evidence from Russia about MH17 is coming out…..yesterday BUK manufacturer today eyewitness….all MSM talking about today is FIFA….
Those two witness stories gave me an idea. Put together what the two witnesses said in those two stories. Lev saying he saw 3 Ukrainian jets, one attacked the air liner, while the other 2 were shot down while attacking ground targets. The Ukrainian air force armorer saying the pilot of the Su-25 said on his return something about the wrong plane was hit. Could it mean the 2 Ukrainian jets shot down were accidentally hit by Ukrainian Buks that were intended for the air liner? The Buks being “insurance” in case the Su-25’s 2 A-A missiles failed to do the job?
I’ve long suspected the same thing. That this was no accident. The relentless focus by the MSM on the ‘Russian’ BUK stemmed from the Ukrainian side. As that increasingly no longer flies, they’ve been ‘burying’ the air-to-air fighter jet evidence – witnesses, satellite pictures – with the BUK-as-Ukie-‘mistake’ narrative.
The Strait Times reported eye-witness accounts by two OSCE observers, one of them Canadian who were on the scene while the wreckage was still smoking. The Canadian noted the cockpit was riddled with the kind of holes consistent with machine-gun fire. That was back in 2014.
It was almost entirely buried by UK/US media.
The exclusion of the Malaysians from the investigation using the most flimsy of legal pretexts just confirms the suspicions.
The Malaysians online I’ve read all believe the plane was deliberately targeted by UAF.
Throwing in other elements – motivation, opportunity, logistics, makes me all but certain Kolomoisky is the main ingredient in the filthy stew.
Minister Lavrov should refuse to meet with unbearably arrogant creatures of nothingness such as Bloomberg’s Ryan Chilcote. I am sure that decent man of stature has much more important issues to attend than to waste twenty minutes (even one minute!…) of his precious time with anyone that obnoxious.
Lavrov: Nitty gritty stuff to use his words and he gave tit for tat with the moderator. I think I am in love again! His coup of the whole interview was when the moderator asked about the head of Russian soccer being a “person of interest” and blank faced Lavrov snaps back, ” Interest? I didn’t know he was interested?” Love it. What a master of cool and then when the moderator started cutting him off, he firmly took him on without raising his voice at all.
KAT KAN, thank you for the link; the text was most interesting.
I remember this man, and have wondered why we did not hear from him again. Within a day or two of the shootdown there was a very brief clip of him. All the clip showed was him saying that he saw the wreckage falling, and that he saw 2 parachutes– one which opened and one which fell w/o opening. I was intensely interested in the mention of parachutes and I posted several times trying to find out more.
Thank you again. Good work. I hope Russia will take him & his wife in & make a full investigation.
On the other hand there is much talk of this being a tactical Neutron bomb -not a conventional nuke.
Not only that but that, visually, neutron bombs are indistinguishable from thermobaric bombs and the former reportedly have been used many times before??
You’d think that simple radiation testing plus radiation type injuries and following deaths from cancer would reveal the truth, plus data from infra-red and ionizing radiation detecting satellites?
Veritas, I advise against disseminating this story. It originates w a confessedly disinfo site– Veterans Today. From there, Global Research picked it up as “unconfirmed” & “possible”, citing no new evidence. Then nsnbc picked up the globalresearch story. The only evidence cited is a video of the explosion– a video of unknown provenance.
Today’s Veteran’s Today follow-up story tells at least 2 lies:
-It says the story has been picked up by RT. Lie #1
-It says it has been picked up by Sputnik. Lie #2
Further, it depicts a “demonstration video” of a “neutron bomb”.
It repeatedly says the bomb in question was dropped by Israel, w/o evidence.
The news outlet “Pravda” is not reliable. There was once a reliable outlet by the same name. This “pravda” is unreliable.
Neither PressTV, Fars News, nor al monitor nor aydinlik daily have picked this up. They are reliable regional sources who would have picked it up if it were real. Unless they do, it’s probably not real.
One use of phoney stories is to cry wolf so that later truthful stories are disbelieved.
This is a cheeky attack by Russia in the “information war”, a raid deep inside the citadel – since presumably even with editing this is broadcast in the US.
I’m grateful that Lavrov chose to give his time and effort to it. Russia has never seriously fought the information war in details, on terms set by the opponent, but rather by the demonstration of alternatives and by challenging and changing paradigms. Sometimes we see examples of this.
When you own most of the media, you can afford to publish unintelligent muck, and drown the world in it. But when it comes to the point of true pitched battle, if all this ease of propaganda means you’ve weakened your own ability to fight – and it does – then you lose.
This could be said for every realm in which the struggle continues, military, economic and political – and even sports, as we see. The cheapness of the US moves in the world of football, for example, compared with Russia’s honestly deserved attainments in sporting contests, are not lost on the world.
Every time Russia looks like a victim, the US loses points by exposing the shoddy quality of its attacks, and its own lack of substance. That’s what’s happening here. This is how you bring down a giant. You wear out his energy, and stay strong yourself. One day, almost from kindness, the killing blow.
But we know that the coalition is providing training, supplies, medical care, and hosting recruitment sites, and the Saudis pay them as mercenaries.
Now look at who Sputnik is:
Sputnik is an international multimedia news service launched on 10 November 2014 by Rossiya Segodnya, an agency wholly owned and operated by the Russian government, which was created by a Decree of the President of Russia on 9 December 2013.[1] Sputnik replaces the RIA Novosti news agency on an international stage (which remains active in Russia)[2] and Voice of Russia.
Radio Sputnik is the audio element of the platform and aims to “operate in 30 languages in 2015, for a total of over 800 hours a day, covering over 130 cities and 34 countries on “FM, digital DAB/DAB+ (Digital Radio Broadcasting), HD-Radio, as well as mobile phones and the Internet.”[
I noticed that he was downplaying the expectations that the sanctions would be canceled this coming July. He clearly said that this regime could last decades… He also clearly said that they are focused on developing new partnerships with Latin America and Asia.
We should kiss goodbye to the rapprochement with Europe and their institutions. Europe will lose big time over the long term, specially Germany.
Morally and common-sense- wise you are absolutely right. It is so frustrating to listen to these diplomatic euphemisms/evasions..
makes me, for one, wanna scream..
But. The Game of Thrones is being played, and those who play it assume everyone on the board is also a player In order to stay on the board everyone is forced to give the impression of being a ‘player’ too. To respond to in ways that are honest and transparent is to forget this and assume the audience is The Decider. It isn’t.
Geopolitical games are being played totally outside of nation-states. Those are the realities. Most politics is theatre, including – probably especially – diplomacy.
That’s why I see what is presented through US MSM as being relevant mainly to image, not substance. Lavrov is urbane, cosmopolitan, multi-lingual, assured, confident. That’s all that’s needed – the real business is behind scenes.
Just as well his handlers cleaned the borscht stains off his shirt, and hid the Smirnoff empties..o :
Lauris, Ngoyo & eimar– I thank all of you for trying to educate me as to the requirements of diplomacy. Only a short while ago I would have agreed w you. But I have come to believe that Russia is losing the information war because she restates their lies.
Lavrov:
“We are not against what this [Arab & Western] coalition is doing, of course, because they are trying to weaken a very bad group of terrorists”
This is a flat lie, which gives cover to evil. He volunteered this comment, didn’t have to say it. IF he had had to say it he could have substituted “if” for “because.”.
Penelope if Lavrov had talked like you want him to talk…on USA favorite news it would have been edited…you can see at the end of the talk…that Lavrov is grateful for the interview.
Note that the interviewer constantly interrupts Lavrov before he is finished. He is to polite to start screaming let me finish the way so many rude American personalities do. Still Lavrov didn’t miss a beat and got everything in there, including the statement that the reporter had the American disease of thinking that they had the right to tell everyone what to do. Clear, frank, honest, SANE.
Thank You Mr. Lavrov.
RR
This one just out.I’m lost.I don’t understand anything anymore.Now ENGIE(former EDF GDF) a french partly state owned big elec/gaz company,just signed a mega LPG contract with Novatek for 23 years.This for one billion tons of russian gaz.
Why do they make so many problems for the Mistral and here ‘it is ok guys’ no problem anymore we can work with Russia.It is not logical…double standard?
http://fr.sputniknews.com/economie/20150602/1016372781.html
It’s a long term contract. The idea is that their “problem” with Russia will have been sold in the next 23 years, probably through war; hence the refusal to deliver the Mistral as it would strengthen Russia in the immediate future. This points to the whole thing picking up speed.
Anonymous, I wd caution the Russians that contracts with a non-sovereign entity cannot be taken seriously. If US can compel them to violate one contract why not also another?
MH 17
Is it a fake or?
18+ Horrific details of the MH17. The plane that never crashed.
[MOD: sorry, we are not going there AGAIN. MH17 scene was staged, the bodies were fake etc etc we have seen it before and it was nonsense then, too. I am not letting you post the link].
Can I make that decision for myself if its nonsense or not?
I said enough about it for you to be able to google it, if you really want.This blog finished with it 10 months ago.
While the conversation starts measured and deliberate, the last five minutes show Lavrov’s flair for politely putting others in their place!!
Mr. Lavrov is a master diplomat.
Brilliant interview thank you for posting. Lavrov doesn’t give much away; he is firm and not wishy washy.
Key points for me:
The way he summed up syria that they put the fate of one man above tge threat of isis/l
The proposal for the removal of the iran sanctions was interesting.
The meeting with kerry was more symbolic than substantive.
I don’t understand why Lavrov, Putin & RT all give the evil US moral cover by pretending that they are acting for justifiable reasons.
“The US will have to decide whether Assad is more dangerous than ISIS.”
Lavrov knows perfectly well that the aggression against Syria is about pipelines and about weakening Syrian allies Iran & Russia.
Throughout the interview he pretended to believe that the US wishes to destroy ISIS, when he knows that US supplies ISIS thru Turkey & Jordan.
Surely it is harmful to tell lies publicly which whitewash evil.
I like Lavrov but I do not understand this Russian tactic.
>I don’t understand why Lavrov, Putin & RT all give the evil US moral cover by pretending that they are acting for justifiable reasons.
It the core idea of diplomacy.
When Lavrov stops talking polite with US expect tanks to roll (and quite probably nukes to fall).
It is sad how diplomacy has been destroyed recently by Western block. People talking as the representatives of countries seem to have a patience of 5 year olds. Diplomacy has historically been patient work – talking, talking and talking. Always politely, always pretending that other party is your friend. Lavrov is one of the few great masters of diplomacy in current world and listening to him is always refreshing.
Absolutely! a bit like this perhaps……
“You know, so many of us are like turkeys convinced that the farmer has their best interests at heart because every day he comes with food and drink. Until one day he shows up with a knife.”
Sergei Lavrov is good value.
Therein lies the problem – when individuals are elevated to such a pedestal that, no matter how they act, their actions are never considered as anything but good.
I’m afraid Mr Lavrov’s actions do make sense but only as a member of the the World cabal.
What do you know about the ancient Roman approach to ‘diplomacy’?
@Penelope
What is most important in diplomacy is the end goal: securing your country’s national interests while avoiding war. Making blatant accusations about your interlocutors achieves nothing but makes diplomacy impossible. For example if Lavrov were to make those accusations, the US would just deny them and label him a conspiracy theorist. End of story. Those of us who know these fact would get a warm fuzzy feeling at being vindicated and supported by Lavrov. But those accusations would render diplomacy, and hence the prospect of achieving the end goal, much more difficult.
Notice that Russia as a country does in fact make those accusation outside the diplomatic field. Putin himself has suggested these things. More often lower level figures are brought out to make those points, military and intelligence community leaders, duma deputies etc But the diplomatic arena is left uncontaminated by strong language and accusation, precisiely so that it can efficiently perform its function.
Its true, though, that the US does not take the same approach. Top US “diplomats” are famously arrogant and even abusive towards their interlocutors. But thats rooted in US culture and a belief that the US is the sole superpower and does’nt have to pretend to be nice to anyone.
the whole point of diplomacy is to de-escalate rhetoric. you can start worrying when Russian diplomats fall silent – that’s when things get ominous on their part. As long as they are talking, nukes won’t fly.
In the current situation, Russia vs the Beast, it’s best to give the adversary a way out. Even if the realization occurs after conversation.
Kerry (Kohn) has a long history in Mass., a local radio host – Howie Carr has made fun of this sad clown for decades. I feel bad for this idiot and the choices that his ego has compelled him to take. He is, however, the best diplomat that the USSA has promulgated in quite some time. Pathetic.
Ngoyo, this is THE definitive statement about diplomacy and how Russia uses it, and how we should feel about it. Thank you.
There should be a number of comments permanently pinned on the bulletin board in the Saker kitchen, and this should be one of them :)
God, if we only had a statesman like Lavrov in the US.
Elect one.
Find one.
Mike: “God, if we only had a statesman like Lavrov in the US.”
Mike, far more than a statesman to put a good face on it we need actual good intentions.
I am sure that you agree that we need to replace the gangsters who have gotten control of our govt & media & monetary policy.
Penelope…its a bit frustrating that you are so sure you know best what the Foreign Minister should do. He knows the real deal…just because he doesn’t spill the beans on the favorite news show in the USA doesn’t mean he’s a gangster.
The bloomberg zio-queen doing the interview was pathetic. But, you know this is the “free press” in the “free world”.
What an annoying ignorant boorish jerk from Bloomberg -always interrupting.
Mindless questions of the ‘how long is a piece of string’ genre.
Don’t you just hate people who ask you a question and then, as you are trying to answer, interrupt and give you ‘your’ answer, twisting it to their spin? They then often switch the subject to another question before you have negated their spin on the previous question.
Lavrov never fails to impress.
All of Henry Meyer’s propaganda journalism is anti-Putin, all of it. I’m amazed that Lavrov’s people granted this creep an interview with their boss.
Yes Sanctuary One…when dear Mr Lavrov gives the ‘wrong’ answer the boorish interviewer quickly changes the question by interrupting.
But Sanctuary, is not the rude behavior of the interviewer there precisely to encourage you to react emotionally, to so polarize your evaluation that you cannot think logically about the view of reality which Lavrov too is espousing?
“It is a ‘mistake’ for US to engage ISIS in Syria w/o govt permission.”
No, it was a strategic US decision to do so in order to aid ISIS in emergencies, and to exclude Syrian troops from certain areas. Since US began air action in Syria, ISIS has gained territory, from the beginning.
Please don’t allow our admiration for Lavrov’s diplomatic, polite mein to blind us to the substantive issues. Precisely because he is such a good wordsmith he could have told more of the truth and have avoided lies w/o being rude.
He could have said at least, “The US air action in Syria has had a negative effect on the ability of the Syrian army to combat ISIS– especially when supplies are accidentally dropped to ISIS.” or “The part of US intelligence in creating ISIS may have had unintended results.” or “As we all know every military requires supply lines. ISIS supply lines come from NATO-member Turkey and from Jordan.
We need to close these supply lines.”
Diplomacy does not require that you join the deception which is destroying entire nations. On the contrary it requires the opposite.
Penelope, don’t you realise bloomberg is part of the Establishment; what did you (realistically) expect?
Ralph, pay attention before responding, dear. I am not uselessly criticizing Bloomberg. I am criticizing Lavrov. Check the thread.
Regards
Lavrov’s task there, more than simply negate the view that Bloomberg and his minion want to impress on their viewers, must also be to further his own view on the basis of the (dis)information accessible to those viewers. One cannot expect the same level of acceptance of certain arguments, conclusions from different audiences.
I wouldn’t see these performances as lying or less truthful just for the sake of being polite or “diplomatic”. It is a requirement of pedagogy, of teaching to start and proceed with a basic understanding of an issue which may not be fully coherent with the more complex comprehension one achieves in the end. This is observable in science and is not exclusive to politics where human judgement and degrees of arbitrariness are more prominent.
Lavrov is just adapting to his expected audience and “flexing” just enough so that what he has to say is not edited out as much as possible. Imo it is exacly here where he shines most and where he earns his credit.
He dealt with the “US boots on the ground in Syria” perfectly.
Penelope,
Putin perhaps said it best during one of his open press conferences when describing diplomats -something to the effect that “their tongues hide what their heads are thinking” . That’s what they practice to achieve the discussions, compromises, Intel, trades, and understanding when discussing another country’s views and strategy.
In essence they are schooled in practiced insincerities and often portray patrician arrogance.
Lavrov is an exception in that he never loses it, he is adept at only lettting out sufficient information to cover the question without giving anything away that could harm Russia or its interests and he can couch the message he wants to convey is a non-inflammatory and highly articulate manner. He is never arrogant.
You have to listen to and analyse very carefully his understated responses and if they are not what you want him to say there is probably a very good reason for it.
Diplomacy mostly happens behind the scenes and frequently does not reflect what is publicly stated.
“you americans ,always want to tell people what to do”…….lol,how true Mr.Lavrov.Nice dig there.
America needs a new Constitution that really spells out the need for a strong central government run by elitist busybodies to tell both Americans and the entire world what to do.
Actually, that is in fact what we do have, and that is at the root of my country’s reckless and destructive rampages over the decades.
Just take a look at this —
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42029.htm
what a dear wizard Minister Lavrov is.
Bot Tak….and all..look at this headline :: http://rt.com/news/264397-fifa-blatter-resigns-elections/
Well it looks like 4th place UK is already having headlines that they will host the 2018 World Cup and Blatter resigning (even though he will still be there until EGM) already shows Russia and Qatar will be stripped:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/england-favourites-to-host-2018-world-cup-following-sepp-blatter-resignation/ar-BBkB9KV?ocid=mailsignoutmd
This is truly appalling. Football as a sport is now dead.
Now Greg D is talking about USA getting 2022:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/england-will-not-bid-for-2022-world-cup-if-qatar-is-stripped-of-hosting-rights–greg-dyke-10293552.html
Frankly neither US or UK should host as they both have a conflict of interest as “investigators”. Sour, sour grapes.
V
wishful thinking by Western zombies.
I think they would not be that stupid. But they would be more sneaky: simply change the hosting of the 2018 and 2022 world cup to some other countries, just to “poke you in the eye”.
Ann
Alexander Mercouris has an interesting article on the 2018 and 2022 WCs aspect:
West Forces Sepp Blatter Out
My guess is this obvious attempt of manipulation will further distance many in the world away from the anglozionist colonies.
I just felt like…as soon as I saw the headline…those Zios’…they did this…because they probably are funding Blatter et al…..and I have heard…that the whole of FIFA is crooked….and now here I go doing a Penelope…..Putin stands behind that crook Blatter because of what Russia might get out of it in the end…and obviously didn’t….
Read Mike King’s piece on his view why FIFA is under investigation at http://tomatobubble.com/id841.html
“WHY ARE THE GLOBO-ZIONISTS ATTACKING FIFA?”
It seems someone does not like Russia. I wonder who?
Mr.Lavrov is a gentleman and the example how the diplomacy should be done. In this interview we can clearly see who is the gentleman and who is the /sorry /asshole
I encourage all Russians brothers to boycot ALL countries which are involing in destruction of Russian economy. On the one hand, those nations are happy that Russian tourists contribute to their prosperity, on the other hand, they weaken Russian economy, for they fear its power. What’s a hypocrisy! We must keep in mind that the U.S.A. are behind all the mess which happen in the world. Western Europe and other of their allies in the world are just their puppets. USA target Ukraine which remains a very important source of Russian imports. They hope of leading Russia back to its former situation after the collapse of the U.S.S.R. Therefore, beyond their national pride, all Russians must show their resistance, bocoytting all NATO countries, if they want to avoid their children a harsh life, like in the time of the Soviet Union collapse. Russians, it’s your duty!
The Krellin propaganda machine of new Boris Berezovsky in full action like was with former presidend Boris Jeltsin ,and puppets of oligharhs former Minister of Foreign Affairs Igor Ivanov and UN abassador Sergey Lavrov.
Antiwar.com’s article was merely a beginning of the Empire’s shout from the rooftops, following the Kerry-Lavrov meeting in Moscow on Syria: “Russians left Syria!”
It is now clear that antiwar.com’s article on Syria, which I highlighted and critiqued yesterday, was but an early start of a new propaganda, political and military offensive led by the US and all al Qaeda wings and branches trained, armed, and thrown by the US/Empire-led coalition against Syria.
For, in content and message, nearly identical articles are showing up today in the Western “mainstream” corporate media, as exemplified here by the International Business Times, prominently featured today on Yahoo news feed. This start of this new big offensive, which is backed by large ISIS offensives on the ground, comes just several days after Kerry met Lavrov in Moscow last week and after Lavrov and Kerry both boasted and bragged how positive the meeting was and how they “began to agree” with each other.
While Donbass is being strangled by Minsk phony ceasefire, the US and al Qaeda armies are trying hard to knock out Syria and reduce Russia to “partnership” in her self-effacement and isolation.
In terms of the political message, both antiwar.com and the Western corporate media are now triumphantly claiming that “the Russians left Syria.”
Those who followed me for some time do know by now that, it has been already some time since I started thinking of not quite few Lavrov’s pronouncements and positions as lame.
In the face of the US-led new great push against Syria with the help of all the al Qaedas and their variously coded and fancifully named brigades, Russia can (of course?) duck and avoid taking any public and principled stance, but one can have no doubt that the destruction of Syria and the regime change there is the sole objective of the Empire. The other strategic objective is creating the best possible conditions for a destruction and regime change in Russia as well and Syria and creating an image of Russia as an unreliable ally and friend is a major objective for which Syria itself is but a means and prerequisite.
The Empire is systematic and its foreign policy is well planned. Russia matches this with appeals to “partnership,” which the West does not even bother to pay attention to for the West is content to paint Putin as a “new Hitler” and Russia as an Ebola virus, the “aggressor” who happens to be a state and who also happens to sit over the largest land real estate in the world.
I feel certain that one day we’ll wake up to hear of a targeted assassination in Russia of you know who – and what will we be told? That it was Islamic terrorists.
Maybe it will be Islamic terrorists – but we all know who will be standing behind them and spinning such a scenario to their own ends.
If this scenario will happen /we just have to hope it will never happen / he has a much stronger substitute for himself as he have already mentioned.
Russia at this time is very well prepared for the attack, and before all of the lies will be revealed to the world with the concrete evidence, let the earth to shake and clean up from these evil parasites
Julian…that will never happen….the Kremlin is very good at protecting its people. Saker discussed this a few months ago…
The Empire is systematic and its foreign policy is well planned”.
If the opponents believe this to be the case, this is another strategic advantage.
The opponents don’t believe this to be the case. This is mis-information from the enemy.
Things are not always as they seem: Pt 1
http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/seccatpage.php?frid=31&seccatid=269
eimar, thank you for the link. Looks like a good source for Zionist wrong-doing.
It is to me even better than presstv ,syrper or even farsnews…
Just an idea here – Russians should just sale to the Syrian coast with a few warships and give Isis some serious beating with rockets etc. on their command/logistics bases and fuel storage. Just because USA doesn’t really do any of that right now despite all their “we bomb isis” propaganda nonsense. Noone could say a word against that move in the west, they would simply have no viable way to make bad PR with that.
But such a bold move would only be viable if they exactly knew where to hit and those strikes would really change the situation on the ground for the better, from the syrian/iraqi POV.
I guess columns of white Toyota Hilux should be rather easy to spot ;)
In regards to Greece.
Lavrov should have been firmer in stating that Russia wants the best outcome for the Greek people. A real solution, not piling more debt onto the Greek people by “kicking the can down the road”.
A little disappointed to not hear Lavrov outline that Russia would be very willing to help Greece find a productive solution that increases the welfare and prosperity of the Greek people. ie, Russia is not the slightest bit interested in placing more burdens on the Greek people.
He could have and should have said something along those lines – in his usual diplomatic way of course.
Quite impressive, I think, was Lavrov’s answer that Americans are “contaminated with the ideology of telling people what to do”. Excellent!
Breaking:
“On May 29, 2015, Ukraine’s official delegation to the United Nations informed the world that Ukraine recognized its sea and land borders with the Republic of Crimea”.
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/ukraine-notified-un-it-recognizes.html
Be careful here. Others say it is not true. What seems to have happened is that the embassies used a map where Crimea was not part of UIkraine.
@ Anonymous on June 03, 2015 · at 9:03 am UTC
““On May 29, 2015, Ukraine’s official delegation to the United Nations informed the world that Ukraine recognized its sea and land borders with the Republic of Crimea”.
I can not find any confirmation for this news. Neither on http://mfa.gov.ua/en nor Ukrainian embassy web site in my country (as the note claim).
The YT transcript looks like some machine translation to me, it’s completely incomprehensible.
what language are you reading it in? the video is in ENGLISH which Lavrov speaks perfectly. If you want a transcript, RT got a good one http://rt.com/politics/official-word/264325-lavrov-interview-bloomberg-russia/
Streaming is blocked at work…
Thanks for the transcript.
The interviewer couldn’t help himself and let his sheer arrogance go on a binge stampede, across whatever neutral lines were still left intact.
Lavrov’s command of the English language should have impressed the hell out of this nitwit [any idea how this interview would have gone down the pipeline, had FM Lavrov demanded it be held in Russian?], but you can’t be a tool and a shed.
BTW, it is my guess that Lavrov only agreed to this interview on the condition that he/his personnel receive a complete copy… otherwise the “just and fair” MSM will pick and choose snippets just to paint a dirty picture!
OT but Russia is hinting again.
They’ve released the name of the “secret witness” who said a Ukrainian pilot shot down MH17.
http://rt.com/news/264545-mh17-investigators-key-witness/
There is no new evidence from him, and the rest of the story covers the 2-day-old report from the BUK manufacturer that it could not have been one of theirs.
They don’t put out something like this to waste time. They do it to remind people they might know something.
Here also is translation of a recent interview by a Dutch journalist with a real witness, a guy in one of the villages the plane fell onto. He’s been saying he saw it ever since about July 18 and everyone ignores him. BUT he was watching through a telescope (and chances are he was doing so on purpose, ie not for fun but to warn of approaching fighters). With VIDEO but in Russian only.
http://7mei.nl/2015/05/30/lev/
STUCKWITHBUK if it wants a password.
Thanks KK.
All smoke and mirrors – all talking about FIFA whilst all the evidence from Russia about MH17 is coming out…..yesterday BUK manufacturer today eyewitness….all MSM talking about today is FIFA….
Veritas
I think this further confirms that the Russian government believes the air liner was shot down by a Su-25.
Those two witness stories gave me an idea. Put together what the two witnesses said in those two stories. Lev saying he saw 3 Ukrainian jets, one attacked the air liner, while the other 2 were shot down while attacking ground targets. The Ukrainian air force armorer saying the pilot of the Su-25 said on his return something about the wrong plane was hit. Could it mean the 2 Ukrainian jets shot down were accidentally hit by Ukrainian Buks that were intended for the air liner? The Buks being “insurance” in case the Su-25’s 2 A-A missiles failed to do the job?
OMG. If I understood your comment correctly…what a gong show….poor Malaysian Airlines, one of the best in the world…is bankrupt….
@Bot Tak
I’ve long suspected the same thing. That this was no accident. The relentless focus by the MSM on the ‘Russian’ BUK stemmed from the Ukrainian side. As that increasingly no longer flies, they’ve been ‘burying’ the air-to-air fighter jet evidence – witnesses, satellite pictures – with the BUK-as-Ukie-‘mistake’ narrative.
The Strait Times reported eye-witness accounts by two OSCE observers, one of them Canadian who were on the scene while the wreckage was still smoking. The Canadian noted the cockpit was riddled with the kind of holes consistent with machine-gun fire. That was back in 2014.
It was almost entirely buried by UK/US media.
The exclusion of the Malaysians from the investigation using the most flimsy of legal pretexts just confirms the suspicions.
The Malaysians online I’ve read all believe the plane was deliberately targeted by UAF.
Throwing in other elements – motivation, opportunity, logistics, makes me all but certain Kolomoisky is the main ingredient in the filthy stew.
Minister Lavrov should refuse to meet with unbearably arrogant creatures of nothingness such as Bloomberg’s Ryan Chilcote. I am sure that decent man of stature has much more important issues to attend than to waste twenty minutes (even one minute!…) of his precious time with anyone that obnoxious.
Lavrov: Nitty gritty stuff to use his words and he gave tit for tat with the moderator. I think I am in love again! His coup of the whole interview was when the moderator asked about the head of Russian soccer being a “person of interest” and blank faced Lavrov snaps back, ” Interest? I didn’t know he was interested?” Love it. What a master of cool and then when the moderator started cutting him off, he firmly took him on without raising his voice at all.
Well, there are good guys and bad guys.
We can nuke the Japanese’s people to oblivion…after all there are sub-humans.
We can put the africans into slavery…after all there are sub-humans.
We can kill the native’s inhabitants of the new world…after all there are sub-humans.
And so on and so worth..
WII viewed from another angle :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMCOKNCwHmQ&feature=youtu.be
Site : http://www.hellstormdocumentary.com/
comments welcome !
Dear The Saker,
http://nsnbc.me/2015/06/03/the-war-on-yemen-americas-plans-to-use-nuclear-weapons-against-the-middle-east/
Could the US use/have used tactical nukes in Yemen?
Rgds,
Veritas
KAT KAN, thank you for the link; the text was most interesting.
I remember this man, and have wondered why we did not hear from him again. Within a day or two of the shootdown there was a very brief clip of him. All the clip showed was him saying that he saw the wreckage falling, and that he saw 2 parachutes– one which opened and one which fell w/o opening. I was intensely interested in the mention of parachutes and I posted several times trying to find out more.
Thank you again. Good work. I hope Russia will take him & his wife in & make a full investigation.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/06/breaking-maryinka-captured-naf.html?m=1
Heavy casualties DPR forces capture several towns attempting to prevent UAF shelling
This is not looking good!
http://www.silverdoctors.com/did-the-saudis-or-israelis-just-detonate-a-tactical-nuke-in-yemen/#more-54241
Any comments on the veracity?
Certainly does not look like conventional weapons.
Definitely not nuclear. Likely thermobaric and/or ammunition/fuel on ground.
On the other hand there is much talk of this being a tactical Neutron bomb -not a conventional nuke.
Not only that but that, visually, neutron bombs are indistinguishable from thermobaric bombs and the former reportedly have been used many times before??
You’d think that simple radiation testing plus radiation type injuries and following deaths from cancer would reveal the truth, plus data from infra-red and ionizing radiation detecting satellites?
I am not sure what to make of it all.
Veritas, I advise against disseminating this story. It originates w a confessedly disinfo site– Veterans Today. From there, Global Research picked it up as “unconfirmed” & “possible”, citing no new evidence. Then nsnbc picked up the globalresearch story. The only evidence cited is a video of the explosion– a video of unknown provenance.
Today’s Veteran’s Today follow-up story tells at least 2 lies:
-It says the story has been picked up by RT. Lie #1
-It says it has been picked up by Sputnik. Lie #2
Further, it depicts a “demonstration video” of a “neutron bomb”.
It repeatedly says the bomb in question was dropped by Israel, w/o evidence.
The news outlet “Pravda” is not reliable. There was once a reliable outlet by the same name. This “pravda” is unreliable.
Neither PressTV, Fars News, nor al monitor nor aydinlik daily have picked this up. They are reliable regional sources who would have picked it up if it were real. Unless they do, it’s probably not real.
One use of phoney stories is to cry wolf so that later truthful stories are disbelieved.
This is a cheeky attack by Russia in the “information war”, a raid deep inside the citadel – since presumably even with editing this is broadcast in the US.
I’m grateful that Lavrov chose to give his time and effort to it. Russia has never seriously fought the information war in details, on terms set by the opponent, but rather by the demonstration of alternatives and by challenging and changing paradigms. Sometimes we see examples of this.
When you own most of the media, you can afford to publish unintelligent muck, and drown the world in it. But when it comes to the point of true pitched battle, if all this ease of propaganda means you’ve weakened your own ability to fight – and it does – then you lose.
This could be said for every realm in which the struggle continues, military, economic and political – and even sports, as we see. The cheapness of the US moves in the world of football, for example, compared with Russia’s honestly deserved attainments in sporting contests, are not lost on the world.
Every time Russia looks like a victim, the US loses points by exposing the shoddy quality of its attacks, and its own lack of substance. That’s what’s happening here. This is how you bring down a giant. You wear out his energy, and stay strong yourself. One day, almost from kindness, the killing blow.
This lie appeared on Sputnik this morning:
“Other topics on the agenda are expected to include the Ebola epidemic and the rise of the Islamic State, a brutal Sunni group which a US-led coalition cannot destroy for nearly a year.” http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150603/1022903201.html#ixzz3c0zhcNdJ
But we know that the coalition is providing training, supplies, medical care, and hosting recruitment sites, and the Saudis pay them as mercenaries.
Now look at who Sputnik is:
Sputnik is an international multimedia news service launched on 10 November 2014 by Rossiya Segodnya, an agency wholly owned and operated by the Russian government, which was created by a Decree of the President of Russia on 9 December 2013.[1] Sputnik replaces the RIA Novosti news agency on an international stage (which remains active in Russia)[2] and Voice of Russia.
Radio Sputnik is the audio element of the platform and aims to “operate in 30 languages in 2015, for a total of over 800 hours a day, covering over 130 cities and 34 countries on “FM, digital DAB/DAB+ (Digital Radio Broadcasting), HD-Radio, as well as mobile phones and the Internet.”[
Thanks for making this interview available.
A great man. No bullshit.
I noticed that he was downplaying the expectations that the sanctions would be canceled this coming July. He clearly said that this regime could last decades… He also clearly said that they are focused on developing new partnerships with Latin America and Asia.
We should kiss goodbye to the rapprochement with Europe and their institutions. Europe will lose big time over the long term, specially Germany.
@Penelope
Morally and common-sense- wise you are absolutely right. It is so frustrating to listen to these diplomatic euphemisms/evasions..
makes me, for one, wanna scream..
But. The Game of Thrones is being played, and those who play it assume everyone on the board is also a player In order to stay on the board everyone is forced to give the impression of being a ‘player’ too. To respond to in ways that are honest and transparent is to forget this and assume the audience is The Decider. It isn’t.
Geopolitical games are being played totally outside of nation-states. Those are the realities. Most politics is theatre, including – probably especially – diplomacy.
That’s why I see what is presented through US MSM as being relevant mainly to image, not substance. Lavrov is urbane, cosmopolitan, multi-lingual, assured, confident. That’s all that’s needed – the real business is behind scenes.
Just as well his handlers cleaned the borscht stains off his shirt, and hid the Smirnoff empties..o :
Lauris, Ngoyo & eimar– I thank all of you for trying to educate me as to the requirements of diplomacy. Only a short while ago I would have agreed w you. But I have come to believe that Russia is losing the information war because she restates their lies.
Lavrov:
“We are not against what this [Arab & Western] coalition is doing, of course, because they are trying to weaken a very bad group of terrorists”
This is a flat lie, which gives cover to evil. He volunteered this comment, didn’t have to say it. IF he had had to say it he could have substituted “if” for “because.”.
Penelope if Lavrov had talked like you want him to talk…on USA favorite news it would have been edited…you can see at the end of the talk…that Lavrov is grateful for the interview.
In Russia he probably talks differently.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.
The world needs a long, long vacation from the Americans.
Sitrep 6./3/15 . Well, well, well…look what crawled out from under a rock and is coupling?
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/kolomoisky-just-created-new-political-party-ukrop/ri7708.
Still, on this Saashkashvili appointment to Odessa , something smells off like is this a Nemsov II in the making?
Here’s a link to the transcript, http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/315292F2299BC1E943257E580055F3ED
Note that the interviewer constantly interrupts Lavrov before he is finished. He is to polite to start screaming let me finish the way so many rude American personalities do. Still Lavrov didn’t miss a beat and got everything in there, including the statement that the reporter had the American disease of thinking that they had the right to tell everyone what to do. Clear, frank, honest, SANE.
Thank You Mr. Lavrov.
RR