By Amarynth for the Saker Blog
We start with the broader environment:
It is Zelensky’s decision, says the Chorus of the Great Walkback.
“The people and the government of Ukraine, led by President Zelensky, must decide on their own the issue of the possibility of territorial concessions.” – US Secretary of State Blinken. According to the head of the State Department, the United States does not intend to impose its position.
(You have lost, and you don’t want to say it Blinken!)
We see more and more western statements that Ukraine can end the war, via loss of territories. This is sheer desperation to avoid even an iota of responsibility for the loss of lives that they caused. They don’t know how to get out, they have to get out, they have to save face for their domestic audiences in the face of a spectacular loss of prestige, so again, Zelensky is being thrown under the bus and the Ukraine is an orphan.
Russia in any event says nyet! It will be on our terms, not yours.
A moment of skewed brilliance struck the former commander of NATO forces in Europe, Wesley Clark. He says that without the direct intervention of the Alliance, it will not be possible to end the war in the Ukraine. He is of course wrong, but his calculus is interesting:
“Moreover, if NATO does not intervene in Ukraine, it may dissolve itself. “The idea that Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg is now advocating, and which finds support among other members of the alliance – that NATO can not actively intervene unless it is directly attacked – this idea has remained in the 90s.”
So, he wants to order the Russians to cease fire.
“It’s time to learn the lessons “NATO must intervene. Let’s officially recognize this and order the Russians to cease fire.”
According to this retired US Army general, the alliance must either “go beyond the outlined framework, or stop its activities.” (But .. but, all this time, you said NATO was only a defensive alliance.)
Maybe, at last, he got it! The idea here is to push NATO back to its own borders and if it won’t go, the Russians will make it go!
Maria Zakharova, perfectly on time and topic during the St Petersburg Economic Forum:
“If you’re looking for media objectivity, best not focus on the West’s portrayal of Ukraine.”
Meanwhile in China, Xi Jinping signed a legal framework as to how China’s military forces will operate in a war, that is not a war. Like, as an example, a special military operation. And then, Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation today. “China is ready to continue to support each other with Russia on issues of sovereignty and security” – Xi Jinping in a conversation with Putin. Your guess here is as good as mine, but it looks like the two leaders are expecting more Special Military Operations, or military/technical work.
From there, we again follow Dmitry Medvedev: “I saw a message that Ukraine wants to receive LNG from its overseas owners under Lend-Lease with payment for delivery in 2 years. Otherwise, next winter it will simply freeze.
Just a question.
And who said that in two years Ukraine will even exist on the world map? Although the Americans don’t care anymore – they have invested so much in the “anti-Russia” project that everything else is a trifle for them.”
The Great Walkback is visible to all who care to look!
And he did not stop there and spoke on sanctions: It turned out that the specially gifted characters I wrote about began to realize that Russia is our beloved Motherland. And it also dawned on them that without our country they could not survive.
After all, otherwise they will not receive:
– food for their citizens;
– fertilizers to produce food for their citizens;
– sources of energy for the production of food and heating of their citizens;
– metals and other products for the production of machines and mechanisms for their citizens;
– fuel for European and American nuclear power plants, which provide 20-40% of electricity to their citizens.
The list goes on.
Now we are looking forward to the next package of European sanctions and Grandfather Joe’s great sanctions decisions, about which the authors of these same sanctions immediately begin to come up with circumvention schemes.
I will not remind you about inflation, prices for all types of fuel and forecasts for the fall of economies. All data is publicly available.
And this is only the first month of summer.
We are waiting for autumn… when we will have to collect the main sanctions harvest.
In the meantime, the locomotive of their economy of services and digital currencies is flying into the wall at full steam. Smile, gentlemen, smile!”
https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/110
On the battlefield, it is mostly a replay now.
The work of the humanitarian corridor from the Azot plant in Severodonetsk was disrupted by the Ukrainian side on its first day, 1 person came out, the DPR military reported.
Latest Russian Mod Statement: https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2197
And Military Summary from Rumble is as detailed as possible during another Grind phase. https://rumble.com/v18fye1-ukraine.-military-summary-and-analysis-14.06.2022.html
Some comments say that they still do not understand the small Ukrainian environment vis a vis the SMO and even less of the broader environment viz a viz a move to a multipolar world. Here is a Ukrainian map of the oblasts, and then, we follow with a Readovka map. Simply eyeball the two maps, and you will see the progress.
It is clear from the increasingly shrill calls to ‘buy off’ the Russian Federation with ‘Territory for Peace’, that the Ukrainian military is on the verge of collapse.
It is also clear that the Russian Federation’s operational tempo is not harming Russia, as some have attempted to assert. But rather is absolutely torturing the Empire of Lies.
Zelensky’s ranting and raving are so divorced from reality…. I think he needs to be hospitalized.
Remember kids, Evil makes you Stupid.
yawn. the Ukrainian military has been on the verge of collapse for about 90 days now. we keep hearing about this. ditto the russuan military and economy. it’s all wishful thinking from both sides.
The German Wehrmacht was on the verge of collapse from the Winter of -43 so the Autumn of -45, this is not a movie where it wrap-up in 90 minutes. This is the first(one of the first) salvo in wwIII and all the might of NATO stands behind elensky, as the 404 Barrage battalions stands behind their troops.
War takes time.
The German Generals wrote a memo in 1943 that it was over.
The nutcase in Berlin never listened to the Generals, which is why Gen. von Staufenberg (ironically played by Tom Cruise in the movie) took action. His 1 mistake was to warn the Brits – Churchill wrote in his diary he would not negotiate with Generals – and tipped them off.
Deja vu?
After that betrayal, the kill rate rocketed a factor of 11 higher, even though it was over.
War is like that….
Old politicians, old generals, old ideas. Yes indeedy, war is like that.
“Go Brandon,” keep on blaming everyone for everything and remember Blinking has your back while Washington burns.
Churchill
Whose role across history should be vigorously reframed….
Stauffenberg was only Oberstleutnant/Lieutenant colonel. One should avoid learning history from Hollywood.
The Germans were beaten at Smolensk in 1941, it was downhill from there.
The world is much more interconnected economically, and a lot more people have more to lose. The EU and US cannot weather such a conflict, or else their elites will lose their power and face upheavals. They can’t afford that. This is already costing them resources they don’t have.
Yeah. But the Uke forces are losing men hand over fist – killed, wounded or deserted. Ammo for artillery and fuel for mobility are also now severely limited. The Ukes might last for another four – maybe even six weeks – but after that – FINI. It’s inevitable, just like the Nazi and Japanese regimes lasted for a year or so after they were comprehensively beaten, but eventually they succumbed.
Actually, all we heard in the West was not the Ukraine military about to collapse but the Russian military! Also, I think its very fair to point out that the Ukraine military could easily fall apart [even further] at any time.
To point maybe.
However the Ukies are losing badly and have pretty much maxed out their war-making potential. NATO weapon supplies will stop making any difference soon enough.
Remember in WW2 the Germans were producing more tanks, planes & guns etc than ever in 1944. They ran out of pilots and trained specialists/crew not equipment or even fuel.
Also when an army finally cracks, It can come apart very fast. So I give the VSU a few weeks before it stops functioning as a coherent military force.
I agree, that second map has barely changed since the beginning of the SMO, except for the Russian loss of territory around Kiev and Kharkov. I hear about random villages being captured every so often, but that’s about it. Not so impressive for what Andrei calls “the World’s best military”.
It’s a war of attrition, and the Ukrainian Army is being hollowed out faster than a tree infested with termite colonies.
Only 10% of the Russian army is involved, and you don’t seem to understand the aims and strategy of this operation. This isn’t a US-style mass bombing ‘kill ’em all!’ and occupation campaign.
The Ukie millitary keeps going on due to Zelensky s delusion and the west pumping weapons. The west is desperate now for a way out due to the economic damage imposed to themselves by the sanctions intended to harm Russia. Russia is actually getting stronger by the sanctions. Its showing to the world it is possible to survive without fiat money if you possess commodities. The geniuses of the ’free world’ now start to realize this.
But who do you think is in a worse position? Are Russians talking about having to give up land to end the fighting? No. It’s the other guy.
Russian tempo aids them in a few ways, not just in terms of ability to avoid casualties, civilian and military but also it is adding pain economically to the Wests problems, especially Europes. I think Putin hopes Ukie military doesnt collapse wholesale, the longer we go the nearer to cold weather we get and that will cause chaos in the West, rolling blackouts, limited production for factories, sky high energy bills will destroy service sector economies (UK) as citizens will have little or no disposable income to spend on discretionary services. More likely I see zelensky being dethroned by the Ukie military and either fresh hostilities or negotiations beginning with a new team than any meaningful Zelensky oriented talks.
This widely shared idea that the self-imposed harm to Western economies is somehow determinant of political or military strategies of Western governments is addiction to schadenfreude masquerading as rationality. It buys into the myth that Western polities are democracies not fascistic oligarchies.
War is the health of the state. The internet is a military technology designed by the Pentagon and not akin to books and newspapers. The Age of Enlightenment has been replaced by the Information Age and western societies are conditioned by a self-described “information war.”
If “sanctions don’t work” against the likes of Venezuela or Cuba then why would economic pain condition the structure of decision making by powers that openly worship war and structure human relations with militarism?
I think you put that rather well.
The Donetsk leadership has requested more troops from the Russian army as well as their own troops due to the shelling of their civilians. I would hope the Russians bring in a force that will take out the weapons and troops in the area quickly. I have no doubt the Russian forces are at hand to do it thoroughly and quickly.
This sounds like the horrendous drip-drip Chinese water torture treatment to the West by Russia strategists.
Remember kids, Evil makes you Stupid.
You are so right campion!
Or is it the other way round?
The thesis that ‘ evil makes you stupid’ well, can be proven beyond doubt and milimetrically fits someone to perfection. This time south Rio Grande.
Bolsonaro.
Now, the ukrops are threatening to blow up the Crimean bridge, and retake Crimea using military means. I can only explain this development in one way: zelstein has moved on from cocaine to something worse.
Don’t even comment on General Wesley Clark, he is a complete buffoon. He lost on the battlefield in Kosovo with all the might of NATO on his back. General Pavkovic of the Yugoslav Pristina Corps made a mockery of his military power. Instead of hitting tanks, bridges and armor , NATO was hitting balloon props made by the Yugoslav military. When NATO said they degraded 90 % of the Serbian armor they were shocked to see most tanks and armor fully operational as they went back to Serbia after UN resolution 1244. General Ratko Mladic also ran circles around the so called westpoint graduate. Milosevic also took a few rounds out of Clark in The Hague court as well. Too bad these great Serbian patriots were betrayed.
Clark is now a board member of an Albanian oil company In Kucova with the dirtiest oil in Europe among other endeavors.
Wesley Clark is a tribe member and not a goy-im. This clown blurted out that the USA (Rothschild-Soros-Khazarian Mafia) was going to take down 6 countries after Yugoslavia. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon (?), Iran (?), Afghanistan. I forget the exact countries. Clark also wanted to start World War 3 with the Russians in Serbia. Russia was not as powerful as they are today but Russia was not going to back down.
Don’t forget Dick Cheney is in Genie Oil with Rothschilds and other vermin stealing Syria oil in the Golan Heights. Wesley Clark is scum. These people are so evil like Kolomoisky.
The Wesley Clark interview on American TV:
“Nine days after 9/11 a decision had been made by the US military, on or about 20th September [2001], to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off with Iran”
He went on to say the decision was taken despite there being no evidence of any connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda or even that Al Qaeda was responsible for the 9/11 attack.
Indeed – Wesley Clark was forced to bomb pure civilian targets in a (failed) effort to terror Belgrade into capitulation. Instead, Washington/NATO was forced into abandoning every single of their war aims as part of UNSC 1244.
Clark bombed a bridge in Kosmet 37 times. On the 38th bombing run, they finally scored a hit. And blew up a decoy ! The real bridge was about 500 meters up river. Clark also lost 2/3’s of his vaunted F-117 Stealth Fighter/Bomber fleet. 1 was famously shot down and crashed near Belgrade. The others were hit but managed to crash land in NATO occupied territories putting them out of commission until being ‘remanufactured’. There are dozens of such examples of Clark’s failures.
Correct! the Serbs made a big mistake when they pulled out of Kosovo,they should have made those Nato cowards fight a ground war,the fact is the public in those Nato Countries wouldn’t have had the stomach for it,one thing has confused me for years,that is why did the Serbs in Kosovo not start a insurgency?
Well, Serbia put in trust UNSC 1244 but it was a betrayal as the KLA literally walked in and took over Kosovo and cleansed and or killed any supporters of the former Serbian government. NATO and KFOR just watched as churches were burned and opposition leaders were assassinated and killed. Rugova’s party was made to kneel or he would have been assassinated as well. UNSC 1244 has all been breached , only through Russian support it is still alive but many of its clauses have been disregarded and thrown away to the dustbin of history.
At that time, Yugoslavia had close to 120,000 troops in Kosovo and in addition 300,000 other troops in Yugoslavia not including reserves. Not sure if Serbia would have survived the invasion and devastation, but with Wesley Clark leading the charge, they would have inflicted major losses to NATO. Russia was the key and Yeltsin said in so many words back out of Kosovo or Serbia will cease to exist.
I can definitely see Yeltsin being the one to knife the Serbs in the back.
It wasn’t a question of winning a military conflict on the ground … it was more about the destruction of an industrial society being carried out by NATO. Serbia could not allow the latter to happen but, on the other hand, could not prevent the incessant NATO bombing of its infrastructure and industry.
Don’t forget it wasn’t like the citizens of Europe gave NATO carte blanche to bomb the hell out of Yugoslavia. Greece would have no part of it and popular support was waning in Germany, France and Italy. NATO was already running out of sites to bomb in Yugoslavia, the damage was done which compelled them to sign an agreement.
re: 1244
The lesson of the illegal and immoral NATO attack on Serbia is NATO have no honor. They ignore 1244 as if it never existed.
The rest of the world learned from 1244. They learned that Washington and its vassals are agreement incapable.
Serbia had to pull its troops out to stop the bombing, and the bombing had to be stopped to save the civilian infrastructure and give Serbia time to rebuild all the vital infrastructure (electric, gas, water, etc.) – which had been destroyed – before winter. Unfortunately Russian nor any other country helped Serbia to repair and rebuild during that crucial year.
“So, if Milosevic had endured a little longer, this position says, there would certainly have been more civilian casualties, but in the end we would still have received a better peace offer. That is to say, the northern part of Kosovo would be under our control today. How realistic is this view?
The first factor we must keep in mind is the Russian attitude. With strong Russians, Serbia could really win a better peace offer. However, Yeltsin’s Russia at the time was not the current, Putin’s renewed superpower. Russia suffered a financial meltdown in 1998. When the bombing began, Russia was in the middle of negotiations with the United States on a loan worth 11-15 billion dollars. Her army was also rapidly declining, so there was only the illusion of equality between Russia and the United States on the international stage.
When NATO attacked Serbia, Russia showed its anger by withdrawing representatives from the NATO headquarters in Brussels. But she did nothing else. Not only was Serbia not admitted to the military alliance between Russia and Belarus, as Milosevic demanded. It did not receive the expected help with weapons that could inflict greater losses on the attacker (such as the S-300 “Tor”, “Buk” and “Tunguska” anti-aircraft missile systems).
All the Russians offered Milosevic was mediation in negotiations with NATO. But even that Russian mediation was not particularly successful. Milosevic offered to withdraw from Kosovo under the following conditions: that the international military forces that come there be under the UN flag and without soldiers from the attacking countries; to keep 20,000 soldiers and police officers from Serbia in Kosovo; and to stop the bombing immediately.
However, the Americans demanded that the core of the army that came to Kosovo be NATO units, and that all Serbian forces leave. With strong Russians behind it, Serbia could have learned a lot in the negotiations. However, the Russians agreed to extremely unfavorable negotiating conditions. First, that the United States, the EU and Russia first determine the text of the peace proposal together, and then that it be communicated to Serbia on a “take it or leave it” basis.
Therefore, Serbia could not influence the peace plan, but only surrender to the good will and protection of Russia, and hope that the plan will be as favorable as possible for it. And secondly, the Russians have agreed to be a minority in the team preparing the peace proposal.
The American negotiator was Strobe Talbott, the US Deputy Secretary of State. The EU representative was Martti Ahtisaari from Finland, a country that was not a member of NATO, but was a member of the EU. Ahtisaari was a completely American man, so the United States practically had two representatives in the negotiating team. Finally, for Viktor Chernomyrdin, Yeltsin’s prime minister (1993-98) and the Russian representative on the team, he was considered to be “the most beloved Washington Russian”, as Noam Chomsky wrote beautifully for him.
On June 2 1999, at the last tripartite meeting in Petersberg Castle near Bonn, Chernomyrdin accepted all three American conditions for peace for reasons that are not completely clear: NATO in Kosovo, the complete withdrawal of Serbia and the joint “take or leave” of Milosevic.
Then Chernomyrdin and Ahtisaari flew to Belgrade and read a ten-point plan to Milosevic. Milosevic could not negotiate about anything, he only had to say: yes or no. When he asked to see the reading of the agreement, it turned out that they did not even bring him a copy of it! 10. While some Serbs present, such as Milan Milutinovic, were visibly angry, Ahtisaari wrote in his memoirs, Milosevic remained cool.
He had to make a decision that had serious consequences and that is why he must not allow anger to overwhelm him. The advantage of Ahtisaari’s plan in relation to Rambouillet was that there were no more provisions on the walk of NATO soldiers around Serbia.
According to the offered agreement, NATO stayed only in Kosovo. In addition, the agreement contained provisions that could be perceived as somewhat valuable to the previous war. For example, Article 3 puts Kosovo under the protectorate of the UN, not NATO and the EU, as per the Rambouillet agreement. Article 9 even announced some possible financial assistance for “renewal and stabilization of the crisis area”.
So, the offer still contained at least something that one could cling to in order to say that the war was not in vain.”
Da li je trebalo izdržati “još malo”?
Slobodan Antonić
nedelja, 12. april 2009.
http://www.nspm.rs/srbija-i-nato/da-li-je-trebalo-izdrzati-jos-malo.html
A good in depth analysis but your mistaken that there were no addendums to the original UN resolution 1244 text. Milosevic at first rejected the initial draft from Ahtisarri and Chernomyrdin. He then added the guarantee of the territorial integrity of Yugoslavia, Kosovo and Metohija. Further , another clause was added to allow Yugoslav custom guards to return. The initial ultimatum was not accepted and this is when Chernomyrdin turned up the heat and told Milosevic that his country would be erased from the map and Russia could not support militarily or diplomatically. Serbia could have held out, but at what cost? Milosevic got the best deal he could, saved the army and country for that matter only to be ousted later by traitors like Zindjic and Kostunica.
I met him when he gave a talk at Oxford years ago. He was strikingly short and very sharp.
I walked with him from the room and pushed him on US policy. He admitted that the principle he had talked about were often misapplied and that the US deliberately did bad things, because policy prevailed over principles in politics and rules therefore were to be selectively applied. And as instruments of foreign policy and American exceptionalism.
No doubt this was the seeds of the thinking of the rules based international order. In which the US weighs rules only to understand consequences of breaking them and how to justify the breaking, rather than because the rules matter to them.
That was an opportunity to smash his face in missed.
I’d love to be in the same room with one of these war criminal scum; just give me two minutes and I guarantee they would limp severely and have scarred faces for the rest of their miserable lives.
Thanks again to the Saker team for continuing to provide these Sitreps.
The continued sanctions against Russia are really starting to hit the G7 supply chains in terms of parts availability and cost. Nothing spells humiliation like getting beaten with the flat of your own sword! It is an unfortunate fact that the western politicians have no sense of shame or humiliation.
They suffer from Brass Neck Syndrome.
Cheers M
Does Russia push to the Polish border but create two states? A proper Russian Ukraine and a rump of six western oblasts that are Russian controlled and in mental therapy.
There are some serious considerations in the west, most critically retaining and protecting the nuclear power plants in Khmelnytskyi oblast and Rivne oblast. These absolutely must be under Russian control, not a rump state. You don’t want artillery shelling or terrorism around your nuclear plants and you need a good buffer.
Volyn and Ternopil are hostile oblasts adjacent to the oblasts hosting your nuclear power stations. The best treatment for these areas would be to turn them into military districts full of Russian bases on the eternal front line. The hostile inhabitants could either move to the EU or submit to denazification with decades of martial law.
So there is not much left in the west. The best use of the remaining territory would be to barter them away to the former Warsaw Pact nations as rewards for leaving NATO. A neutral Poland could have Lviv oblast. Zakarpattia oblast could be divvied up with Hungary and Slovakia. Chernivtsi oblast could be gifted to a neutral Romania.
Then there is Ivano-Frankivsk oblast, the heart of darkness, home of Bandera. Honestly, perhaps it should be turned into a nature reserve like the Chernobyl exclusion zone, or turned over to the Poles to be denazified with extreme prejudice?
“Zelensky is being thrown under the bus and the Ukraine is an orphan” Success has always father/mother, Failure/defeat is always orphan. Oh, but wait! We have Hollywood and western MSM that can fix it.
A great deal has many fathers; a bad deal is an orphan.
An old saying in the equity world.
Bet $100 that Jeremy Renner is asked to play Elensky in
Neocon-Hollywood version of history.
Are you kidding? It will be Idris Elba.
it will be a black woman, a transgender lesbian, and he (she) will probably be disabled
Gen.Wesley Clark: “Let’s officially order the Russians to cease fire.”
What is the height of the ridiculous? I could give a rude answer but the one above will serve. Officially.
That is an amazing quote from Wesley Clark: ““It’s time to learn the lessons “NATO must intervene. Let’s officially recognize this and order the Russians to cease fire.”
This is truly delusional thinking. Yes, it is humorous in a very dark sort of way, but it so completely out of touch with reality to be scary, too. If this is at all representative of how most top brass and political “leaders” in the West are “thinking” — that the US is in some kind of position to issue orders to Russia “or else” — then we are not far from a direct military conflict between US and Russia.
Congratulations.
Guess you finally realized why this site was /IMO/ created in the first place. It was NOT to “support Russia”. But to stem the delusions of the Western elites which are absolutely capable of sleepwalking us into WW3. The hot one.
1. The west and nato already “ordered “ Russia to cease fire.
Russia replied, when they finally answered the phone that they do not take orders.
2. The west then went away and requested a ceasefire. Please.
Russia said no.
They are now back at step 1.
the illusions of western elites…”
Yes, that’s why I’ve been following this site for about 5 years, to understand and be able to counter such illusions.
Thanks to Great Sake and team!
Before NATO “intervenes” (and “orders” Russia to cease fire), NATO might like to consider how Europe’s largest army, armed, equipped and trained to NATO standards (including using civilians / civilian infrastructure as “human shields”), has already fared against Russia’s fairly small Expeditionary Force (or SMO).
If the “other” NATO forces think they can do better – let them try. They will find the error of their ways soon enough (and this time Russia will NOT be concerned with civilian or infrastructure damage, so far fewer precision strikes, more blitzkrieg style warfare).
Escalate to a “few” battlefield nuclear weapons? Russia has escalation dominance in this arena too, and this is a road best left untrodden if we all wish to see next Christmas.
Loved your post, Phil. I had a good chuckle as I read it. Not because there is anything wrong with what you wrote… more because it is 100% accurate with the RF not worrying too much about a potential blitzkrieg by their military.
I do wish that Russia would take some symbolic scalps like Borrel, Von der Leyen and of course Stoltenberg and persecute them for war crimes.
By then Poland and the Baltics had better learn to play nice…
Thank you Amarynth and the Saker team for all your updates! Much appreciated as always
Seeing through the fog of SMO/war the objective of global south lead by Russia and China is to break the shackles of West, meaning the shackles of Dollars through which the world is enslaved via instrument of Wall Street/IMF.
The Dollar is the blood that supplies the apparatus of evil, the Pentagon/CIA/NATO/IMF/Banks, through which the world is enslaved.
Now the Dollar is breaking between the triangle of debt/interest rate/inflation in USA and Europe.
The final nail in the coffin of that breakage is the death of pseudo prestige of assumed USA military supremacy. The supremacy will come to an end once Ukraine stooge (not Ukraine people) is defeated by Russia and that is a certainty.
Upon that victory Saudi will leave the petrol dollar along with all commodity trading nations.
The Dollar dies.
Once the Dollar dies the Pentagon dies, the CIA dies, the NSA dies, NATO dies and Polish the stupid dies along with it.
Global south will rise on a new financial system anchored in Gold/Silver/Commodities, not the fiat shit we had to endure since 1971.
Friends buy gold and silver and prepare for the change and profit from the change and protect your families.
Thank you Saker and wish you all the best
Agree 100%. The dollar is the heart of the Sauron.
Crime is the heart of Sauron, or the The Alphabet agencies, (get it?). Crime deals in any currency. The Taliban practically wiped out poppy production during their first tenure in control of Afghanistan, guess were production was at the height of NATO control. In Mexico poppy production was around 10k ha. about 9 years ago, when the president was pena nieto. At the end of his tenure it was 100k ha. Colombia is in So.America, nevertheless it is a favorite child of NATO and the Empire. What is Colombia known for?
Crime does pay and control of that enterprise is not difficult to guess, guess where around 70% of porn websites are controlled?
Today, Metals and crypto took a beating as the roaring 20´s are about to end, guess who controls Metals and Crypto trade? Well, just about every financial transaction! And they will try to control every currency that becomes dominant.
Ukraine is about lebensraum for the Chosen by God, that is why it is being pumped with weapons, even though it has deflated as a viable opponent for the SMO.
Russia has to block NATO or whoever comes in its place. Today a Military Cartel formed by the Brits and the Baltic Dwarves is taking shape, and Guantanamo -on -the -Potomac has already blessed it. Add up the pseudo vikings and normans and you have another SMO, on steroids.
dominant. Read up what happend to the English Pound in the early 90´s and whodunnit? One of the favorites of the Zionists and the Alphabet companies.
” … NATO dies and Polish the stupid dies …” !?
There is less polonophobia on the Russian site fr.topwar.ru than on this western site thesaker.
I advise readers to consult the original (topwar) rather than the copy and do their own analysis.
the forum on topwar is very instructive and shows the real Russian mentality which is much more respectful than that of our arrogant Westerners.
It’s very simple; no one is holding a gun to your head to come to this site, just do not visit this site and everyone will be happy…you, no longer reading about the stupid poles, and us, no longer reading your stupid comments.
That look of shock on the face of the west when their told there will be no negotiating, complete surrender or be destroyed.
Priceless
Seeing the maps above, and having read a comment yesterday that Russia controlled only about 50% of the Donesk region, I decided to verify/disprove that by overlaying the two maps above. The result is
https://i.imgur.com/RhH8Opu.jpg
As you can see by checking the overlaid maps, the claim is correct. The greenish area in the center of the map is the part of the Donesk region controlled by Ukraine.
Given that after 100+ days of war the Russians still do not control the Donesk region, talk of a Ukrainian ‘defeat’ seems premature, at best.
Territory is the wrong metric. People is what you need to focus on. Kiev is losing / has already lost the most highly trained and most motivated troops. After that armed core is lost, gaining territory can go more quickly.
How did this endeavour go wrong?
Hemingway paraphrased this rather succinctly: first gradually, the suddenly. 8-)
Spot on. The goal is to fix the Ukrainian Army ‘in place’ along the LOC and then gradually reduce it, until it breaks.
This minimizes Russian/Allied casualties as well as reducing danger to civilians and civilian infrastructure.
The Empire of Lies seems to have recognized the strategy and realizes that it spells defeat for them. Thus the almost desperate/empty threat pleading for a cease fire and negotiated settlement.
Are the Ukrainians keeping back good troops in the West for a final stand in front of Odessa and Luov?
I believe they have a few fairly intact Class A(?) units left. These, as best I can tell, are located in the Nikolaev/Odessa/Dnipropetrovsk/Kiev Areas. They may also have something in the Kharkov area, but they may have been chewed up in the recent attempted counter offensive(spoiling attack) north of Kharkov city.
Along the main LOC in the Donbass, Ukraine should still have some partial strength units. Though, I suspect most of those are ‘blocking’ units to keep the cannon fodder from running away.
Obviously information about specific units is often spotty at best, so I wouldn’t take this to the bank.
As for Lvov, I should imagine most of those troops are Support/Logistics along with some surviving Air Defense assets.
2 American mercs captured in Kharkov yesterday, the first of many I expect.
Oh yeah, the other 8 in their group were eliminated.
Cool. Do you have a link WTFD?
https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/152353-us_servicemen_captured/
…and they’re quoting the British Torygraph.
Ok so the 10 man commando unit were on a mission and unfortunately for them were provided wrongful information, walking straight into a Russian ambush.
I keep hearing Ukraine are winning the information war . . . . not on the battlefield. lol
One of the (not NATO honest) American Mercs was a chemical warfare expert. hmmmmm
Given that the Ukrainians have had years to defensively fortify that particular area, I don’t see it as a big surprise the Russians are finding it a tough nut to crack.
Then too, their is also the Russian decision to fight this war with one arm tied behind their back, so to speak, which pretty much guarantees a drawn out series of battles to the end.
Nicely done with the maps, by the way.
I agree with you, Saggy. This war will continue for awhile. The main point to note, though, is that Ukraine is throwing its main forces in the Donbass and suffering daily, unsustainable attrition. 2 It is hiding out in towns that will eventually be part of NovoRussya and the Ukrainians don’t care if hostages are killed and these towns destroyed, Once the main Ukrainian forces are beaten in the Donbass, there will be very little left of the Ukrainian Army and they will not allow their own towns in the West to be destroyed. That’s when the mass surrender will occur. But, it could still be months from now. In the meantime, the economic destruction of the West will have progressed to a very dangerous point.
Saggy, you’re so far off it’s hard to know where to start.
Russia has no reason to hurry. They have every reason to move slowly, methodically, & smartly.
1.The slower it goes, the more the sanctions backfire & cripple their enemy.
2. Nato spent 8 years arming, training & digging bunkers & fortifications. The slower it goes, the better the Russians are able to position themselves, lock the enemy inside their positions & then bomb the bejezus out of them, while reducing their own exposure.
3. In situs like Azov, & now at Azot, they can literally trap them & wait for them to run out of food, water, med supplies, etc., Using minimum # of their own troops supported by drones.
4. The slower they go, the better they are able to avoid civilian casualties.
5. The slower they go, the better they are able to rebuild the territories they have liberated as they go. They may be “losing” the PR war with the west, but rebuilding infrastructure, providing food, water, medical treatment, stability, local political structure & rubles, to restore their economy costs time & resources up front, wins the PR war with the civilians who are their cousins & neighbors. It costs up front, but pays high dividends for the long term.
Bottom line is they are eating our lunch, & breakfast & dinner too.
Cheers. @:Mary and everybody. Bhadrakumar Is saying that usamericans will impose a no-fly zone all over western Ucrania. What can you answer to that? Kindest regards!
A no-fly zone can’t stop stealthy cruise missiles from blowing up weapon dumps, infrastructure, government buildings, etc.
The Russians are still somewhat tip-toeing around in the eastern part as they’re trying to liberate people, not conquer them. They wouldn’t necessarily go so slowly and gently as they headed west.
Scorched Earth, when the Russians cross the Dnieper river!
Somebody mentioned this link so I had a look and changed it from French to English:
Corridor “North – South” and its hidden turns
https://en.topwar.ru/197649-koridor-sever-jug-i-ego-skrytye-povoroty.html
Saggy, they control the Oblast in the main. Percentages are sometimes really confusing.
Btw, did you use same legend in terms of sizing – those two maps are miles different you know. Too many miles to simply overlay.
The maps seem to be to the same scale and fit over each other without resizing.
As for the ‘benefits’ of going slow, I think this is absolute nonsense. I believe the Russians wanted and expected a quick win as they moved immediately on Kiev but then stalled, very odd.
The longer this thing goes on the greater the chance for things to go way south. The west can supply Ukraine with unlimited weapons.
Russia has attacked the legs while leaving the head intact. It makes no sense whatever, they should have gone after the central govt. on day 1, as they appeared to be doing.
Now the Ukrainian govt., given that it is controlled by neocons and the west, does not have a compelling reason to negotiate anything. It will happily watch Ukraine be destroyed. Zelensky is living high on the hog and is being feted around the world.
Be aware that there is a certain group that has anticipated a war between ‘east’ and ‘west’ with great relish for over 200 years …… https://www.bitchute.com/video/7UdnGaIgihwJ/
From a comment on Unz …. this is one angle that I think has validity .. edited with one euphemism to improve ‘readability’ …. .
“The neocons are dumping a shit ton of America’s money into the Ukraine War. Their ya ya squad are pissing themselves in anticipation of some sex perverted payoff.
And all Joe Sixpack can do is sit and watch.”
Saggy, your map sucks! You are at least 200 Kms off. That is all I can say. I said it is good enough for an eyeball. But you think it is real.
Oh boy!
Unless you can impose rule, which Russia has not done yet.
Removal of Zelensky would have likely resulted in new nazi lead government. Not pro Russian government as the nazis would have taken over and declared martial law.
Russia is not in a position to run all Ukraine right now. Nor can it install a pro Russian at this time as they would be killed.
@Saggy: “Russia has attacked the legs while leaving the head intact.”
That’s the humanitarian way for an armed police action: Shoot at the legs, not at the head”.
I know that Yanks and Israelis think this is the wrong way round. That’s why so many Palestinian kids throwing stones wind up dead with head wounds. And why, after a squad of British police went to Israel for anti-terrorist training, the first thing they did on return to London was to gang up on an innocent Brazilian tourist and pump a dozen bullets into his head — leaving the legs intact of course.
The young Jean Charles de Menezes was no random tourist. He was an electrician working on the London Tube.
The cops were a hunter killer team that formed the backbone of Operation Kratos. He was tailed from his home and executed in a train carriage. They killed him publicly as a warning to any others thinking of ‘blowing the whistle’.
Many think the British govt. assassinated him because he may have witnessed MI5/6/MOSSAD skullduggery a week or two earlier on 7/7.
Yep. The woman in charge of the operation (Cressida Dick)…what happened to her?
She was ‘rewarded’ and put in charge of the largest police force in Britain and became Commissioner of the Met Police.
Tony Blair got ‘rewarded’ a few days ago for ‘meritorious service to the Crown’…
England is a f*cking diabolical political cesspit.
The West is mired in deception to the point where it can’t understand that with Putin “you get what you see”. When the Russians said it was a special military operation for the Donbas, then they literally meant that is was about the Donbas. It wasn’t about taking Kyiv. That was a diversion to fix Ukrainian troops around the capital. You just have too look at the numbers. It would have been impossible to take Kyiv with 20k troops.
Moreover, taking Kyiv street by street would have meant a tremendous amount of casualties on both sides. Even though the Russians could have easily bombed Ukrainian infrastructure, they left most of it intact. They didn’t want to destroy the country simply to have to rebuild it afterwards. They might still have to destroy infrastructure and capture more territory if Ukraine keeps on resisting and if Nato keeps on escalating. Then the Russians may actually have to destroy the part of the country they don’t want to capture. That choice is up to Nato and Kyiv. The more Nato weapons, the more destruction.
Very weak analysis by Saggy. It assumes “the West” has a magical ability to put effective weapons in theatre unimpeded and that “neocons” have unlimited and perpetual power. Both reveal his ignorance and his reliance on fear rather than logic. The Ukrainians lack the ability to shelter arms once they enter the country, the “neo-cons” lost control of the Republican party years ago and are in the process of losing their perch in the Democratic party as we speak. Oh, and remember the $40 billion grant from the U.S. last month? Guess how much of that was for weapons? $6 billion. Officially. The reality is far less. Its a scam.
It was common knowledge by 1943 that the Germans had lost the war, yet the Nazi government was not conquered until 1945. Ukraine will fall in about half the time (2 years). And there’s no consequence for people like Saggy to run their mouths and be wrong. At least officially…
The war will end when Russia determines that it has achieved its goals—at least for the time being. There might be some minor face-saving negotiations, but only on peripheral matters.
The bulk of the Ukrainian forces had been dug in in the Donbas in preparation for its assault on Luhansk and Donets. If the Russians had attacked them directly through the two republics, there would have been a Verdun-type battle for months without either side gaining or losing anything.
Instead of adopting the Ukrainian static warfare, the Russians went for mobile warfare attacking in the South and North so as to gradually surround the Ukrainian forces in one or more cauldrons. Instead of losing 400,000 soldiers for zero territorial gain as in the battle of Verdun, the Russians thus minimized human casualties while making substantial territorial gains. Once the Ukrainian forces are in a cauldron, the Russians can simply wait until they run out of provisions to eliminate the Ukrainian forces and take territory with minimal losses.
Should the Russians have sacrificed the lives of Ukrainians and Russians to satisfy the lust for action of internet generals? I don’t think so.
Saggy——-
Empty fields, forests and flood plains don’t count. Dead Nazis and dead Uki army does.
Its called continental mechanised warfare or whatever you like, but it ain’t Iraq.
That’s why NATO has got the willies. Have a look at the last jet out of Kabul with Ahgan interpreters hanging off wheel bays. If you cannot defeat towel heads running around in seekers forget 500 pound angry bears.
“Given that after 100+ days of war the Russians still do not control the Donesk region, talk of a Ukrainian ‘defeat’ seems premature, at best.”
Yes, Russia is not going after Ukraine strongly enough, and it seems it is mostly up to the Donbass forces to take ground. It is mostly where the Donbass troops are fighting that there is gradual success. Russia does help them but the Donbass forces have to do most of the fighting and capturing territory themselves.
Wesley Clarke’s statement – irrespective of the fact that he is an idiot, no different to the majority of his contemporaries in the US military/political establishment – should not be taken lightly at all. He represents a broad swathe of opinion within the Democratic Party establishment, especially its most virulent Sorosite wing, which is also its most virulent Russophobic wing. Note something else, this is the same Wesley Clarke who apparently thought the GW Bush/Cheney admin plan to invade 7 countries in 5 years was lunacy, but he thinks the US/NATO can “order” Russia to do something. What this represents is a very important split that exists within the US foreign policy establishment which does not receive the commentary/analysis it deserves, that is that there is a general priority difference between the Democrats & Republicans, with the former focusing & prioritizing Eurasia, & the latter the Middle East. This is why, among other reasons Trump was less hawkish on Russia than he was on Iran, where the assassination of Solemani came within a hair’s width of causing a war. The Democrats, who are more representative of Wall St banking interests, are more interested in domination over Europe & the broader Eurasian continental expanse, they are absolutely obsessed with destroying Russia. Also, within this establishment one will find a disproportionate number of Pale of Settlement personalities, who have a personal family grudge to bear against Russia. They claim this is because of Tsarist Russia’s history of pogroms against Jews, but they do not seem to possess the same degree of hostility towards Germany, which going by their own narrative, was responsible for practically eliminating Jewry from Europe as a substantial continent wide community. They hate Russia, but Germany? Not so much. How to square that circle? The Republicans represent the arms & oil sectors more so than the Dems, & so their emphasis is on the Mid East, the Greater Israel project, destroying Iran, etc. etc. That’s why GW Bush found himself at war with Al Qaeda in Iraq following the 2003 invasion, whereas the Dems are usually adept at working with the Salafi Jihadist elements. Again this is something few people talk about, you will still here claims that the CIA created ISIS, when ISIS emerged from the Iraqi insurgency against the US, the Islamic State of Iraq (ISIS direct predecessor, the same organisation) declared itself in occupied Iraq in 2006, after clearing much of al-Anbar province of the US troop presence.
Excellent analysis, thanks
Yes. Outstanding. Just to add that NY Bankers backed the Khazarian Mafia-Bolsheviks who murdered 25 million Christian Russians as well as later 7 million Ukrainians. This was the real Holo-cau-st but you never hear about that one. They edited it out of the English versions of Solzynetsyn’s books.
Both sides are equally evil. dem wants to loot RF natural resources. They did it in 404.
No point to harm germany, its a livelong cashcow for them, paying big sums every month to all the survivors and to isreal. Germany financed alot in isreal over the decades so why would you hurt yourself by hitting the cashcow?
Yes, great comment.
As to your question “ They hate Russia, but Germany? Not so much. How to square that circle?”
The answer I propose is that Germany is completely under their heel while Russia is slipping off their leash. They didn’t hate Russian when their poodle Yeltsin was in charge and Russian was prostrate.
They do not hate Germany because they do have a complete control over Germany. Germany is not an independent country. It has been a puppet state since 1945. So no reason to hate them or any other country in WE, since they control all of them.
To cut to the chase, Democrats are a jew party, Republicans a wasp, slave owning party
Fact. The Democrats were the slave owners. The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) was founded and run by Democrats to attack blacks and republicans
You are wrong, slave owners were mainly democrats,
watch or read what Dinesh D’souza have to say about it (easy to find on youtube)
he had studied the theme quite thoroughly. his books and conferences about this thema (slavery democrats) are
really eye openers.
Don’t talk about something you obviously have no clue about. The democrats were the party of slavery. The republicans freed the slaves. Just wondering what color is your skin when you are so liberating calling WASP the white Christians in the US?
Fascinating thanks. Saker an essential source of reason and on occasion provocation in dark, dark times.
the empire is looking forward to convincing the Russian recognize the statu quo ante, as Kissinger suggested. This is obviously delusional because, for that they would need to inflict serious defeats to the Russians which will only lead to escalation.
Another case scenario would be to accept the independence of the popular republics and the Crimea annexation by Russia which would need to abandon the liberated populations of Kherson, Zapotozhie and Jarkov to a gruesome fate.
Clark is just another corrupt to the bone rotten fascist thirsty for blood. A perfect example of the murdering intelligentsia running Washington. They feel they can do virtually anything they want. Nobody ever investigated how they made their billions killing people and stealing anyway. Hundreds of this pirate billionaires, albeit thousands, need to be neutralised for good
Russia will have to make Ukraine’s external security neutral. Only that.
Just a small clarification, Amarynth, for Pepe followers who may not recognize the referent of your terms:
By ‘Grandfather Joe,’ Amarynth is referring to “the crash test dummy with a microphone in his ear.”
By ‘Blinken,’ she is referring to “Little Blinkie.”
BTW, this tweet appears to support your findings:
Turkey will postpone consideration of the issue of #Sweden and #Finland joining #NATO for a year.
fz-mod: interesting contribution, but off topic. Maybe better suited for The Open Feast Cafe
The Western Media is attacking BABUSHKA “Z” who like many of us my age have lost familly members to the Nazi plaugethat the West is resurecting as “FREEDOM FIGHTERS”. https://www.google.com/search?q=Babushka+z&rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA897CA898&oq=Babushka+z+&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512j0i10i433j46i10i131i433j0i10i433j46i10j0i10l2j46i10j0i10.4602j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I provide some excerpts from a recent letter to ombudsman of CBC . CBC has become the voice of UKRAIN in Canada. I have no problem with that but in any conflict there are two voices and sometimes many voices. CBC has chosen to silence every voice other than their own. The ombudsman wrote back saying that he would send my complaint to CBC. I said to him that is like the chickens sending a complaint to “Coleonel Saunders” the icon of Kentucky Fried Chicken. I asked him what exactly is your job when we are censored by the government and propagandized by CBC. No response to this.
Part of my letter to Ombudsman:
My letter to you concerns CBC and their reporting on world issues. One of the biggest threats to global peace is propaganda, represented as news, regardless of where it comes from. The psychology intrinsic to both rising and declining power can be dangerous, particularly when supported by disinformation, as the CBC is doing in consort with the government. CBC has become a partner in the American and national concept of “containment”.
Our support of such policy can lead to war and the price will be paid by Europe as it was in WWII. It is completely clear to everyone, but CBC, that behind every crisis since WWII are the same Western countries, and everything they do in the world, there is an example that would shame them more than those that they blame for the crisis. These same Western countries prosecuted the victims in kangaroo courts, and found them guilty, while from the outset, knowing that the victims were innocent. Such trials are, not only, crimes against individuals, but also, crimes against all of us.
The propagandized population in Canada has no way to determine the validity of the information presented by the CBC. There is no way for a discerning listener to challenge the bias, inference, fact, and judgment that is claimed by CBC to be authentic and objective, when only one narrative is presented as the facts. Every view has a counterview, and it’s from this principle that truth emerges.
Democracy depends on citizens being informed, and since our media, especially television, reports mostly what the people in power do, and what the people in power want you to know, democracy becomes totalitarianism. The public is badly informed by CBC reporting, where bias is relentless, and the narrative of NATO, and the Ukrainian produced information which could be created using the cell phone, which CBC never verifies but presents to us as news and facts. For example, the government’s political, economic, religious, military, ethnic, or social class point of view predominates in the news. Society is brainwashed, and absolute ignorance prevails on any topic of Russia.
On a recent campaign trail in Ontario, the NDP (supposed socialist) leader Jagmeet Singh was attacked and called a traitor by a hostile crowd. There are several reasons why this could have happened. It could have been racism from the right-wing -Nazi elements in Canadian society. We know racism exists in quantity in every part of Canada, which CBC refuses to expose. It could have been Singh’s betrayal of socialist principles and partnership with Trudeau’s rabid support for NATO militarism. More likely it was, as the truckers will tell you, “Jagmeet Singh’s lapdog compliance with Trudeau in his complete betrayal of the Canadian Trucker’s petition for relief from covid madness.
Truckers tell us that “Most Canadians were finished with Jagmeet after his disgusting performance in Parliament when the truckers were in Ottawa with a very mild petition request as he joined Trudeau to support unleashing completely unlawful force on the truckers.” Or was it Singh’s critic for Foreign Affairs, Heather McPherson (anti coal, anti-oil) who hails from Alberta a predominantly Ukrainian voting block in Edmonton, the same area that Trudeau’s Ukrainian lobbyist Chrystia Freeland the granddaughter of a Nazi Michael Chomiak calls home while calling her grandpa a “freedom fighter”.
This “freedom fighter” took over a newspaper of a Jewish family that was sent to die with some 500 thousand other prisoners, mostly Jews, in a German extermination camp Belzec in Poland. In print Freeland’s grandfather who was a darling of the SS cheered the death of Canadian soldiers as they fell on the beaches of Dieppe and Normandy?
If in fact, this attack was racist which it seems to be, why is Sigh supporting the most racist elements in our society and by extension the racist elements in Ukraine? The crowd also had disillusioned New Democrats who oppose Singh’s recent agreement with Trudeau on future cooperation ad voting strategy and his support for pro-Ukrainian Nazis.
The CBC news is always pre-empted with emotive language, a warning of graphic video which appeals to emotions or oversimplification that attempt to sway the viewer to support a point of view, so he/she can feel anger, fear, patriotism, love or hate. We are fed one or two clips produced in Ukraine, usually portraying Russian soldiers as rapists, war criminals, boozers, or deserters.
The newsreaders on CBC never tell us the SOURCE of the video clip which miraculously appears out of context and in places where the Russians have been and left. In these clips the Ukrainian soldiers buried in mass graves are resurrected as civilians. In one such clip we are told that a Russian soldier was buried with the civilians and the viewer is left with an innuendo that the Russians military lack compassion unlike the Ukrainian Nazis who desecrate the monuments to the millions of Ukrainian and other Soviet soldiers who liberated Europe from Nazism.
In another clip from a safe place in Copenhagen, a woman is interviewed who tells us that she and her mother were strip-searched at a Russian checkpoint, but the Russian guards did not search their backpacks. Another video shows four Russian soldiers breaking into a building where they berate two elderly men, they then leave, and come back and shoot them and then go to the office to have a drink to celebrate.
How quickly the public forgets Kuwait and incubator babies’ hoax, which was filmed with a cell phone by an amateur and became nightly news on CBC. CBC has done this dozen times in Yugoslavia and many more times in Iraq, Syria and in Libya. How fuc—g stupid does CBC think we are? CBC, do you understand what you are doing? You are lying while 400 to 1000 Ukrainian men are being killed each day and you are in part responsible for this.
We are never told how this information was gathered and who was responsible for the hoax. The information is simplified to create an image in the uneducated masses of Canada that have been brought up on Russophobia so that even a Russian person will fear telling someone that they are Russian.
Yesterday, I purchased some paint, from a clerk who is of Russian heritage, third generation Canadian, and in the past like the other day I practiced my poor university Russian with her, and she was hesitant to respond. She said she fears to say that she was Russian. I tell her to be proud of being Russian, and if someone criticizes you tell them that your forefathers saved Europe from the Mongol invasion, Ottoman and English invasion, Catholic crusade invasions, Teutonic knights, Swedes, Poles, Europe under Napoleon, the Nazis under Hitler, and now they are saving us against the evil that they did not finish in 1945.
The so-called experts that CBC uses to comment on Russia are Russian haters like William “Bill” Browder who has been a figure of some prominence on the world scene for the past decade. A few months back, Der Spiegel published a major exposé on him and the case of Sergei Magnitsky but the mainstream media completely ignored this report and so aside from Germany few people are aware of Browder’s background and the Magnitsky issue which resulted in sanctions on Russia.” https://www.unz.com/article/bill-browder-a-billionaire-accused-of-being-a-fraud-and-liar/
The REPUTATION – of the expert like Browder is ignored, the information is never from a respected historian. The experts are mostly unknown or connected to some NATO or government agency. The real experts are sanctioned and never interviewed. Chomsky writes that any debate on this issue that provides a Russian position comes under attack as just another “communist and Putin lover”.
The most blatant propaganda on CBC is their use of women and children, which affect objectivity. Gender, age, sexual or political affiliation or orientation, religion, ethnic group, or religious group is used by CBC to solicit sympathy. CBC writers compare the Ukrainian subject to something pleasant while the Russian position is always unpleasant, and the words used sway the viewer to think positively or negatively about the subject.
They ignore the Ukrainian history of Nazism, homophobia, racism and defend the Azov battalion with sympathetic photograph of wounded Nazi soldiers in the steel plant tunnels and portray them as victims rather than individuals whose policies denied the Russian people in Ukraine the right to speak their own language, killed police officer in the Maidan, and burned people in buildings in Odessa and killed some 14,000 people in the Donbass. The USA government looks at the Cpital riots as terrorism ahile Maidan was a fight for democracy.
What sells in the Canadian media is lies by omission. Only those who agree with the CBC narrative are viewed as experts, on international issues. Any educated person knows that 80% of all the fighting in W.W.II was on the Russian Front, yet school textbooks devote about 10% of space to this fact.
CBC reporting about Russia is even worse, they never, never provide a Russian perspective, and if they do they pre-empt the presentation that this is Russian propaganda. CBC never draws any conclusions from the fact that NATO wars and our participation in them has killed some seven million people in Vietnam, Cambodia, South America, Africa, Yugoslavia, and the Middle East. They never present the reason why Russia does not trust NATO locating in their backyard.
FACTS or events that are verifiable and are known to be true are ignored, and made-up events replace evidence. An anti-Kremlin journalist that dies in Russia, the death is automatically linked to the Kremlin while the death of 15 Aljazeera journalists who died in the last 20 years in targeted assassinations, and like the Middle East refugees, these journalists are unworthy of consideration or protection.
The journalists who expose lies and tell the truth languish in exile or in a UK jail. This is never reported, and if facts should contradict the dominant narrative they are quickly removed, and any evidence that is presented and found to be false is never updated.
Sorry to continue a bit of topic, but then again, not really:
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https://www.palestinechronicle.com/stand-on-guard-for-whom-a-peoples-history-of-the-canadian-military-book-review/
Yves Engler.is a great writer. His book “A Propaganda System” is a great expose of “How Canada’s government, corporations, media and academics sell war and exploitation”. As an educator, I have observed that every segment of society wants more for less. Every parent wants little Jhonnu and Alice to be a Tesla or Einstein, and if they fail to achieve their goal, it’s the teacher’s fault, and to some extent it is. The parents fail to see the elephant in the room, the corporatization of education. It takes energy to think and verify, it is much simpler to hand out worksheets and sit on your ass rather than teach critical thinking.
“This degeneration has produced an infantilized society, as is clearly visible from the level of politicians and journalists in particular, but it is everywhere visible in the illiteracy and innumeracy of contemporary Western societies. Little wonder that we have come to the Nazism of ‘Cancel Russia’, meaning cancel Pushkin, cancel Dostoyevsky, cancel Tchaikovsky, that is, cancel culture.” Being a team player means you don’t question, you cheer. The cheerleaders are promoted, they are the experts, who sell us the idea we are a peace loving country when this is told to us by the Canadian military that controls the largest PR in the country. This PR is repeated by a CBC panel of 4 stooges conducted by “generals” Barton and Kapelos newsreaders, who skew questions so that the public will accept our violations of international law and expenditure of billions of tax dollars to tell us that a swastika on an Azov soldier represents Canada’as values.
Lack of Media objectivity (from above) is a major problem which is fueling this conflict. ” Maria Zakharova, perfectly on time and topic during the St Petersburg Economic Forum:
“If you’re looking for media objectivity, best not focus on the West’s portrayal of Ukraine.”
Next election, make sure you support the candidate who adamantly supports defunding the CBC. Small potatos to address the real problem, but every lick counts.
Well, the answer to the ‘Why’ of it has been presented to the world by the Five-Eyes themselves: They finally came out of the closet as Fascist-loving tyrants, and control of the media is one of their levers of control..
The good news is Pepe’s 88/12% formula, and the 88% of the world are not buying the pro-fascist narrative, and will probably never do so..
When the Five-Eyes only solution is More Weapons & more UA bodies littering the landscape, we know that they are a victim of their own delusions..
Gonzalo Lira the other day said he thinks Russia will bypass Odessa and go straight to Transitiria from roughly Kherson-Myroslav area. Pretty much put Odessa in a siege or semi-cauldron. It sounds like a smart strategy to me.
U.S. Sec of State Blinken (relative of Soros) is calling for Ukrainie to start considering giving up land. NATO is getting beaten and U.S. defense contractors are worried that their overpriced crap is getting exposed as worthless junk. If Russia beats NATO again like they did in Syria, there will be panic in the US State Dept-Pentagram.
Had to give some thought to the plight of the surrendering Ukrainian soldiers assassinated by their own side. Sure hope the RF MOD takes some time to think it over. They need to offer surrendering troops some type of assurance that Russia will set up fire positions to cover them. As niffty artty with its guided munitions exists, what an opportune time to whack the nastiest of the Banderites when they roll up in their APCs.
Cheers M
The President of Mexico this morning said a lot in a short sentence.
“How easy it is to say: ‘There I send so much money for weapons, I provide the weapons and you provide the dead.’ It is immoral,”
https://www.rt.com/news/557177-mexico-ukraine-policies-immoral/
I tkink the concept of morality the President of Mexico refers to is not part of the Anglo-Saxon mindset. The main talking point of Washington is the “rule based” international order. This refers to some sort of world run by lawyers and technocrats from Washington. This is an amoral world where atrocities such as those committed by the “freedom fighters” working for Zelensky are legit as long as the thugs work for US interests. In a very childish way the opponent is pictured as a violator of human rights. Hopefully the US will make some fatal mistake in her quest for hegemony.
The world of Gas ..
European Gas Prices Exceed $1,200 Per 1,000 Cubic Meters for First Time Since May 12 – RIA Novosti
That comes on the back of the news that Nord Stream is operating at only 40% capacity.
This was apparently because Siemens did not return some equipment in time .. sanctions you know!
Russia chooses its times wisely. As the news filter in this morning, I can only think of The Pain Dial!
Yes amarynth . Few know recently as last week suburbs of Sydney, Aaustralia suffered blackouts due to price caps on gas electricity generation. Who could think the other side of the world (and a huge gas exporting nation) would show stress signs from European sanctions. Stupid australians let foreign national companies exports gas without building in any domestic supply mechanism. So the nation that owns the gas field buys at current market price. Crazy
That is how the capitalist system is constructed to extract the wealth of it’s colonies!
Siemens sent the parts to Canada and Canada refused to return them as “it breaks sanctions”. Sighs.
The moment before victory is also the most dangerous.
Since the 2014 coup d’état, the people of Donbass have organized themselves into armed militias to fight for their sovereignty against the pro-US/NATO Kiev government.
Teachers, drivers, electricians, mechanics, and all kinds of workers became soldiers, and were able to impose decisive defeats on the Ukrainian army.
However, before Mariupol was liberated (which was about to happen) and a security perimeter around the capital Donetsk was established, the diplomatic route prevailed with support from Moscow.
The Minsk Accords were signed in 2015, but have never been strictly adhered to. Donetsk continues to be bombed to this day.
At the time Russia had started to suffer sanctions (from 2014 onwards). Its economy was not yet ready to face the escalation of them, something certain in case Russia militarily supported DPR and LPR. Thus, the diplomatic route opened up as the viable option.
Now once again victory looms. What are the dangers that accompany it?
Still troubles me – a relatively ill-informed lay person many thousands of miles away from the conflict – that communities such as donetsk is being shelled with such intense impunity right now; must be an explanation for why advivka has yet to be suppressed; naturally, the west are deliberately blind to these war crimes
From @Lone Wolf: the reasons why the Allied forces will not take on Fortress Avdiivka
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Reasons why Donetsk continues to be hit by Ukrainian artillery:
– Mobile artillery devices move immediately after firing, making it difficult to locate them and immediately retaliate.
– Often Ukrainian artillery is positioned amidst housing estates, schools, hospitals, and toxic chemical stores, making counterattack impossible.
– Much of the attacks come from Ukrainian artillery positioned in Avdiivka, just 15km from Donetsk.
Avdiivka has become a fortified position occupied by neo-Nazis, and there is a chemical industry in the town which lends itself to terrorist sabotage.
To Tony Davis
There was a clear and intelligent explanation from a Russian military analyst as to why the shelling of Donbass has intensified. In his opinion that is being done on the orders from NATO and Washington, and the reason for it is simple – an attempt to disrupt Russia’s grinding, relentless advance on the front lines. Not going to happen. Ukies shelling of maternity hospitals and kindergardens there is also done out of desperation, in blind fury of defeat. They know their days are numbered and nothing left to lose, just their hate-filled, soul-less lives. Very soon they will be put out of their misery.
UK secret services claim to have arrested a “Russian spy” leaving UK
….such a coincidence…
needed go trade for the mercs?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/15/russian-spy-arrested-gatwick-airport/
maybe the game continues
woman named as Ekaterina Zavalishina was arrested in Moscow on charges of high treason. She will remain in custody until August 13 for handing over information that constituted a state secret to a citizen of another country, Interfax reports.
See more at https://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/152323-woman_moscow/
“Robert Mendick” casually inserts: “after expelling diplomats following the attempted assassination of Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in 2018 using nerve agent.” into his story. Those words alone scream “fakery”. The Skripal – Novichok story is a towering inferno of lies and impossibilities. Do any Brits actually believe it?
Yes, if you live in the West you can´t help but notice that the hard-working and thoughtful people of just 20 years ago got replaced by over-medicated Consoomers that willingly eat the slop that the corporate state throws on the floor.
And we shouldn´t forget the utter cowardice on display either, they really think that if they show how obedient they are the State in turn will feel some loyalty vs them…
When a war is run by P R voyeurs from New York and London contracted by Cyber warfare specialists and propagandists from the CIA and MI6 what do you expect? Always knowing that Ukraine would succumb to Russia militarily they were seduced by their totalitarian control of the western infosphere into imagining they could craft a reality of war that defied logic and reason. Their promethean task was to subvert the reality of defeat into a PR victory for war.
Their aim was to sanitise a European population to the horrors of war by deliberately inflaming ultra nationalistic sentiment in the masses and inculcating the white European psyche with fear by demonising the savagery and bestiality of a Slavic Eurasian enemy Russia. With little concern for the suffering inflicted on Ukraine this was viewed as essential prep work for future imperialist wars to be waged against the multipolarists Russia and China.
‘ saw President Joe Biden on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night. He was looking really, really tired. He could not finish the sentances he was talking. With the leader of the west in a state of burn out, I surmise one would not expect much change in the course the West is taking on the Ukraine, or any other matter; i.e. the West is in senility mode. (Biden’s wife looked like she was in pretty good shape though.)
So while the ‘leader of the free world’ is all well and peachy the western mockingbird media mob for weeks have declared that Mr Putin has cancer, tumours, dementia, chicken pox, monkey pox, Ebola, covid, ingrown toe nails, a runny nose, a bad hair day etc etc.
BoJo doesn’t look too well either lately…
(Mrs Biden is a bit tasty, I admit)
The White House is expected as soon as Wednesday to announce around $1 billion dollars worth of new weapons aid for Ukraine, including anti-ship rocket systems, artillery rockets, and rounds for howitzers, people familiar with the packages said,” Reuters reports Wednesday morning.
Tuesday in The Hague….leaders of seven member states ahead of the NATO summit scheduled for the end of June.
“In terms of weaponry, we stand united here that it is crucial for Russia to lose the war,” said Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, who hosted the meeting. “And as we cannot have a direct confrontation between NATO troops and Russia, what we need to do is make sure that Ukraine can fight that war, that it has access to all the necessary weaponry.”
Romanian President Klaus Johannis, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, Belgian PM Alexander De Croo, Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki, Portuguese PM Antonio Costa, and Latvian PM Krisjanis Karins also attended the meeting in the Netherlands.
via rt.
So expect more of the same at the main meeting?
@JJ: “said Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, “As we dare not have direct confrontation between NATO and Russia, we make sure that Ukraine can fight that war, has access to all our weaponry.”
Like Amarynth said at 10.40 above, “We provide the weapons, Ukraine provides the dead”. Immoral.
Also I seem to not read that anyone in EU has stated that the Polish guy saying Ukraine should have nukes is wrong irresponsible or a nutcase..it is not EU policy. If they cannot do that…maybe they tacitly agree or least think it is possible. Or recused themselves as usual from any sense of moral let alone political responsibility.
Scary.
… cannot have a direct confrontation between NATO troops and Russia, what we need to do is make sure that Ukraine can fight that war,
So. NATO fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian is official policy now.
Joe wrote to the oil companies saying “… in a time of war…… and Liz Truss said Brits captured fighting were “prisoners of war…”, so the proxy war is becoming less “proxy” by the day.
Wesley Clark, was the NATO war criminal responsible for Serbia.
So of course he’d like to see a direct engagement with Russia.
Fool.
looks like Gazprom is cutting gas exports to Germany through Nordstream 1 from 167 million cubic meters to 67 cubic meters because of a failure by the German company Siemens to repair equipment. see for example https://www.dw.com/en/gazprom-to-further-cut-gas-supplies-to-germany-via-nord-stream/a-62143155
I find a danger in all this. Russia must take big cities and there are a lot of them – Odessa, Kharkov, etc.
This seems to be based on the idea of almost total Ukraine army collapse. Think of it as building up a big debt and hoping a big future paycheck covers it. If becomes too onerous, backing out politically would be difficult for the Kremlin. And Transnistria gets stranded.
Ukraine forces could devolve into local defenses of cities and drag everything on indefinitely. And US/EU will keep pouring in weapons and $ even if their citizens freeze and starve ( look at homeless veterans in US)
If army collapse is hypothesized, how does that work? Are there historical narratives to support this in detail?
LOL ………. the maps say it all!! Thank you Amarynth.
Read that Medvedev quote again if you happened to miss it, “their *owners*”, be still my heart;)
Seems that we(or I at least) missed what a Russian Chad Dima is.
I love the statement by Medvedev,now just make it happen. Here are a few points to bring up:
1. There is an interesting story on RT that isn’t getting the play it needs to. Because of the German company Siemens not sending repaired gas pumps to an important gas pumping plant in Russia. The gas flow to Europe is being cut by 60% starting tomorrow. Gas prices have gone up 25% on that news. That cut should give the EU the idea of what can happen during the winter. If “somehow” the other 40% was to be turned off too.Not even to mention losing 60% of their gas now should be a colossal problem for the EU today.
I do think I need to add this is a problem that should not be happening . It’s 2022 now, why is Russia needing to have gas pumping equipment repaired by Siemans outside the RF. I see that as an unneeded reliance on a foreign supplier. Russia has the talented people to create and fabricate equipment like that in Russia. That they haven’t is a failure of the economic planning,that quickly needs to be remedied.
https://www.rt.com/business/557223-europe-gas-prices-surge/
2. As the article stated the Ukie’s haven’t implemented the evacuation of civilians that was promised (not a surprise to me). They are trying the same “Azovstal playbook” for this situation too. So the Russians should probably use the same playbook here too. Except this time,how about telling them if they don’t surrender (name a time) at a certain time ,after that time they can’t be assured of being considered as POW’s. But might be sent to face terrorism charges instead. That might light a fire under them.
3. Since Zelensky is now (once again) saying they won’t stop the war until they regain all their pre-2014 territory,including Crimea. Isn’t it about time to recognize that there can never be an agreement to end the war made with his regime. And a new government formed by pro-Russian Ukrainians in liberated territory. And Russia recognize that government as the official Ukrainian government.Just as the Soviets did during the liberation of the countries they drove the Germans out of in Eastern Europe (i.e. see Lublin committee in Poland).
Regarding item 1: Is this really a problem for Russia? If Europe fails to return equipment that Russia needs to deliver gas to Europe, and that drives up the price of gas, wouldn’t that just result in more income for Russia, as with all of the other sanctions?
I think it is much better, from a public relations viewpoint, for Russia to let the west shoot itself in the foot (or maybe legs/chest or head), than for Russia to have to do it itself.
Right. If it is on a German company it is also a German problem. Using German devices and services on this segment looks like a good chess move.
You’ll find that Americans like Tim Holt and the CIA gang run Siemens Energy.
“Dmitry Medvedev: “I saw a message that Ukraine wants to receive LNG from its overseas owners under Lend-Lease with payment for delivery in 2 years. Otherwise, next winter it will simply freeze.
Just a question.
And who said that in two years Ukraine will even exist on the world map? Although the Americans don’t care anymore – they have invested so much in the “anti-Russia” project that everything else is a trifle for them.””
Things changed so much in less than one year. Trump will blame Biden in one way or another. He will say Biden is weak…
@ arkx Brasil on June 15, 2022 · at 11:03 am EST/EDT
“The moment before victory is also the most dangerous…
…Now once again victory looms. What are the dangers that accompany it?”
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War is a dangerous business, all parties at war can do is to stay one step ahead of the looming dangers.
Re: the current war, there is always the danger of escalation to a war of cataclysmic proportions (even if not nuclear) beyond the confines of Ukraine, involving Eurostan plus other regions, and that depends on several factors.
1) US elections. To get a majority in the house/senate, both parties will skirt around the Ukraine file. Once either party has a defined majority, the dogs of war at the War Party will unleash their offensive for an all-out war against Russia. Their voices have been in the background so far, with a few exceptions, now Wesley Clark is coming to the fore, and when a man of his weight speaks, is not only voicing his opinion, he is representing a sector of the military establishment now in retirement, well cushioned by the MIC.
2) Eurostan economy. The more sanctions the CW applies to Russia, the more the economy of Eurostan moves in a downward direction, inversely to the Russian economy. Europe is now entering a war economy, and historically, all wars in Europe have erupted out of an economic crisis, including the Crusades. An escalation to total war will very much depend on Western Europe, mainly France and Germany, but the UK is itching for a total war with Russia, BoJo and la Truss are barking 24/7 for war. So far, many European countries are skirting around the sanctions, finding loopholes to continue to get the basic goods they need to function. There might be a point where even those exceptions will be shut down, and Europe will face an economic crisis unseen in modern times.
War will follow.
3) China. If the Pacific region heats up to a boiling point, WW3 is not that far ahead. China is already pre-empting a major conflict by issuing preparations for a Special Military Operation (SMO) against Taiwan, and we don’t know exactly what “security factors” will trigger China to unleash its power. The dogs of war inside the Beltway, however, seem to be hellbent on opening another front on the Pacific, one that would also threaten Russia’s backyard.
A diversion?
Whatever.
Issue is, we are talking about nuclear giants entering conflicts, whose deterrent from full war is, ironically, their nuclear weapons.
(A parenthesis here, SMO seem to be the modality for future conflicts in the 2020s, short of total war, as “Counter-Insurgency Wars” were in the 1960s, “Low Intensity Conflicts” in the 1970s and 1980s.)
There are plenty more factors that can enter the “dangerous equation,” and European history is full of idiotic wars that were triggered by idiotic factors. And idiotic actors.
The lapdogs that surround Russia P+R+3B keep on barking loudly for more weapons, more NATO intervention, more war, until their delusion of seeing Russia on her knees is fulfilled. Poland is now legally ready to join the fray in Ukraine, the 3B yappy dogs keep on barking as if they were Bulldogs or Rotties, they are all ready to jump on Russia at any time, or be used as a false flag or a launchpad for NATO’s further intervention into the conflict.
So, the dangers are ever present, but they were there before, all Russia did with the SMO was to bring them out into the open.
Russia is moving forward to the creation of a new paradigm, regardless of dangers.
“All we need to fear, is fear itself.”
(And we know who said that.)
Lone Wolf
Important thing to note.
None of these wars is on America’s borders or in their backyard.
They see lightning these fires so close to Russ and China as wins.
The question therefore, is if and when those they tormented will bring the war where it needs to be. America. UK. France.
@Truth Seeker.
When indeed? Reminds me of an old Saker article by Joe Humor: The Russian army say they were invited by France to visit Paris, and by Germany to visit Berlin. Now they are waiting for the invitations to visit London and Washington.
@ A.Deplorable on June 15, 2022 · at 2:56 pm EST/EDT
When indeed? Reminds me of an old Saker article by Joe Humor: The Russian army say they were invited by France to visit Paris, and by Germany to visit Berlin. Now they are waiting for the invitations to visit London and Washington.
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Russians already announced their willingness to send Comrade Sarmat to the UK on a courtesy visit, accompanied by a sightseeing tour for a few MIRV warheads or Avangard HGVs, for which the British lack a reception committee. That is not a problem, issue is, after that visit, there will be no UK for Russians to come, no Londongrad for Russian oligarchs, no one to play soccer matches with.
BTW, Comrade Sarmat does not need an invitation, he’s a gatecrasher, no pun intended.
Lone Wolf
Seems to me that Russia and China don’t have to bring their armies to the continental US to foment war in America’s living room. The weapons and ammunition, the people, the logistics are all in place – in plain sight. For the most part the war machine is targeted against those outside the borders. But the same war machine could easily be tasked inward with the right pressures (or a grossly ill-advised policy) and then things become very messy very quickly. Envision the breakup of Yugoslavia at it’s most brutal. Instead of a war being fought along ethnic lines, it’s fought instead on ideological grounds. Ideological in type of the relationship between a government and the people. More likely regional though.
I think this particular US administration (congress,senate included) is extremely capable of turning the war machine loose on the US mainland in a final grasp. Exhibits equal parts ignorance, delusion, spite, aristocrat-elite complex. Add to that a marked intolerance for dissenting views. The ‘very messy very quickly’ part and the fact that a ‘win’ is by no means 100% assured – for now – is why the US is so hellbent on starting fires on the European Asian continent. To prevent a collapse here in the US (up to a revolution), it has to make revolution happen to some other major bloc – the more the better – to make the US the least ugliest in comparison. The EU happily volunteered for the role, but the US will need more to join – by force if necessary.
So the question [rhetorical] becomes: in a US breakup scenario, does Russia/China return the favor of supplying weapons to one side(s) or the other? As France did in the US Revolutionary war to spite England. Or does Russia help push a latent breakup along.
still, washington must be incandescent with rage to hear of the new announcement of russian military ‘involvement’ in nicaragua….
Without doubt, the greatest of the ever-present dangers is “escalation to a war of cataclysmic proportions (even if not nuclear)”.
Russia has been wise in managing the step of the conflict to avoid this possibility. Its (and our) enemies have not!
Proof of this is the intention of the NATO warlords to issue an ultimatum of unconditional surrender to Russia.
When the vain illusions dissipate in the shock of reality, for some the solution is to delude themselves even more. And at that moment dementia assumes cataclysmic proportions.
Besides this, there are other serious dangers lurking around. One of them is the absence of interlocutors with whom Russia can engage in dialogue.
If in 2015 (Minsk Agreements) it was a mistake to assume that diplomacy could do without the military route, now it is also disastrous to consider the opposite.
Military Summary announced at the very end of his YT video that Russia will call a mobilization at the beginning of July in order to capture the leftover of UA very fast. The reason for this speeding up & enlarging the SMO has to do with the SMO that China will be starting against Taiwan. The ‘world’ will quickly jump to the Pacific region and Russia can finish the job and eliminate the UA state.
North Stream 1 has been put out of function due to necessary repairs to Siemens centrifuges which are produced in Canada. Now Canada is sanctioning Germany. Perhaps this lunatic situation of one NATO member sanctioning another NATO member will force Germany to open North Stream II. Keep your beer cool and popcorn ready…
Meanwhile the beyond barter economy exists of people selling the goods out of the trunks of their cars, probably not at $4 a gallon either, no one could afford that.
Today’s Military Summary in his own words is a Gamechanger. 3 new cauldrons updated.
Love that channel
He says 200k Ukraine soilders, killed, wounded or missing in action.
Says mobilisation in July.
Which means Ritter was right all along.
Ritter said Putin would have to do that.
I hope mobilization does occur, this would mean a shorter war and less suffering in the long run. I wonder what would all the sycophants that brag around repeating the mantra of “slow is good” say when the Kremlin itself starts a mobilization with the goal of accelerating things. At the end of the day, there’s a narrative on both sides. Hopefully we are in fact less delusional than the West in the end.
Russian military captured American mercenaries near Kharkov
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Russian servicemen captured two mercenaries from the United States in the suburbs of Kharkov. This is reported by the British newspaper The Telegraph.
According to the publication, two former American soldiers were captured – 39-year-old Robert Druke , who served in Iraq, and 27-year-old Andy Hyun .
An acquaintance of the captured Americans, quoted by The Telegraph, said that the mercenaries were captured on June 9 during a clash with more numerous Russian forces.
“We were on a mission, and everything went completely wrong, with unreliable data. We were told that the city had been liberated when it turned out that the Russians were already storming it, ”the newspaper quoted the American fighter as saying.
The material indicates that Dryuke and Hyun served as volunteers in one of the regular units of the Ukrainian army. As the publication clarifies, they became the first American soldiers who were captured by the Russians.
American mercenaries have joined the ranks of foreign fighters captured by Russian forces, including two British and one Moroccan Aiden Aslin , Sean Pinner and Saadoun Brahim , who were sentenced to death in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
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Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/06/15/rossiyskie-voennye-vzyali-v-plen-amerikanskih-naemnikov-pod-harkovom
Sad. These two idiots got used and abused in American fake wars from Victoria Nuland aka Nudemal – the Khazarian mafia NeoCon. They get beaten up in these other wars, Dryuke’s mom said he had PTSD and could not hold a job. Hey the eariler Nuland wars really f’u*ked me up so I want to go to a real war against a real army and really get my a*s kicked by Russians, DPR/LPR and Chechens. Morons decided to fight for the criminal Khazarian Mafia also for Obam-a because he started this in 2014. He is a non-American part Kenyan puppet of Soros & Rothschilds. .
These two sad sacks found out when you fight against the Russians it is not Tour of Duty 2. The Russians don’t play around.
This ain’t no party
This ain’t no disco
This ain’t no fooling around . . . . .
‘Heard about Houston?
Heard about Detroit?
Heard about Pittsburgh PA?’
The great Talking Heads of course and what a prescient song (Life during wartime); anyone, even David Byrne, paying attention over there?
Cheers WTFUD
Not OT – Ukraine has declared war on 100 million books, and even those in foreign libraries!
https://interfax.com.ua/news/interview/834181.html?fbclid=IwAR3bdcPVui3_seI2VPJ3YWPoUh4YEhJOtQ6uGp9NQfnInV-U4H8Nt3zeeqQ%20Interfax%20Ukraine,%2023%20%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8F%202022%20%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83.
“Unfortunately, it is very difficult for us from here, from Ukraine, to find out what Russian books are in each library of some small European town, but they definitely are. If local residents of Ukrainian origin did not apply to local libraries and did not demand that Ukrainian literature be purchased for them, then it did not appear there. Therefore, as for foreign libraries, I believe that only the persistence of the Ukrainian diaspora and our social movements can lead to the fact that there will be fewer Russian books there, and more Ukrainian ones.”
Diaspora? Millions of UA refugees abroad should demand removal of Russian literature? I”ll bet this will start before the locals notice….
The Russians publicly announced a planned withdraw from Kiev to “Fully focus on Donbass”. Come to think of it, how sure are we that the Russian plan was not also to lure Ukraine to send a bulk of their forces in the Donbass too?
Taking Donbass at a steady, boring and slow pace forces the Ukrainian army to reinforce all of their forces from Western, Southern and Central Ukraine to the East
Hence the Russians turning Eastern Ukraine into a black hole for the Ukranian army so that they don’t have to fully advance further to crush them entirely. Imagine after the battle in the East the Russian Army would advance with almost little to stop it..
I might be wrong but think about it sakerites, it’s just my personal opinion. Thank you Saker
yup good thoughts there.
Russia is about to finish the war and Ukraine soon. The whole current outcome of the fight is that the Ukrainian force was ground to dust (plus depleting the military reserves of NATO and weakening economically, politically, and militarily the whole West). SMO was never about the control of territory but about the destruction of resistance. Once resistance is gone, control on territory and other achievements are more straightforward. Ukraine conveniently sent the vast majority of its forces in the grinder, without Russia needing to over-expand and needing to maintain a too large of a contact line. Ammunition, supply and support were destroyed, some staging areas suffered heavy losses. The country is disarmed and defanged, and all that with a relatively small Russian force.
Now, Russia can mobilize a larger force under much lower risk for that force to establish control over territories and the majority (if not whole) of Ukraine, since you need a volume in force to control a large land. At the same time, zones of intense clashes will continue to be under the special operation mandate, avoiding any large risk for mobilized forces.
The weakness and over overexpansion of the West creates conditions for an asymmetric response from China in Taiwan, leading to an escalation. The situation will get really bad for the economy. The logic of war is that if someone seeks to build forces and obtain support next to your territory, they plan to attack you and/or suppress you militarily and thus politically and economically. The situation in Taiwan is fundamentally similar to the one in Ukraine and if Ukraine lead to a war, Taiwan will also. It is also a logical time and a logical situation. West is weak and will be comprehensively humiliated and squeezed, the West lacks any competent leadership. The main issue is that this will lead to a crash of the global economy, or worse to a WMD escalation by the desperate West.
Another tremendous post on a site which just gets more and more essential as a comfort and guide in our apocalyptic era.
Today’s Military Summary in his own words at the end of his latest video.
200k Ukraine soldiers either killed, wounded , missing in action
Since the start of the special operations Russia has taken over 800 in total towns, villages.
Russia is going to mobilise in July – If true Makes Ritter right in his analysis last month.
Billy, bringing you up to speed. Most of the infantry fighting in the LDNR is being done by the LDNR Militias, urban combat mainly done by Chechens and PMCs. Very little Russian infantry. Most Russians are commandos, spec opps, and all the mobile armour personnel and logistics. The LDNR have already done several mobilizations reflected in their loses to date. Once the LDNR is cleared, the men and women of the LDNR will have fulfilled their duties. To ask them to fight on, across the Ukraine would not be ‘fair’ should such a thing exist in war.
Cheers M
If the rumours are true that Russia will mobilise in July.
I want to see how Gonzo walks it back. After saying it was complete nonsense when Ritter said that is what needs to be done.
Billy makes me laugh. If which rumors are true? The ones that you push here? People are truly desperate to be right and have their horse win – they are so desperate that they only hear what they want to hear.
He says this would be as a result of the situation between China and Taiwan, and the WHOLE WORLD would be involved – he is talking about world war, and not a mythical million-man army in Europe. And he presents some information that came his way, in the best non-inflammatory language at his disposal given English is really not his first language. He really should not be reporting non-open source – it may be planted rumors.
If you say this is what Ritter said, you are talking complete nonsense. I’ve been on record reporting the situation in China for a period of time now – as we all are worried about the possibility of a larger war. But a mythical million man army in Europe? I’m not not really worried about that and neither am I worried about the wunderwaffen weapons.
One has to try if you want to skew the very simple message at the end of today’s Military Summary video. And you really tried.
Here it is for everyone: https://t.me/militarysummary/585
Btw, can anyone remember the timing of Russia taking in new recruits?
Hi amarynth,
Hope you are well.
Military Summary said it not me.
I’m just being balanced and not skewing anything in.
military summary said mobilisation was to speed things up and get things over with and achieve all objectives.Also In case escalation elsewhere and used China and Taiwan as example.
Exactly like Ritter and Mark Sleboda said apart from Ritter used Finland and Sweden as the examples. Not China and Taiwan.
Of course it is a rumour and not been verified. Which I pointed out.
If it happens I want to see how Gonzo walks it back after all the fuss he made over Ritters and Mark Sleboda’s comments that weren’t even offensive in my opinion.
For the record here are Mark Sledoba’s comments
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkSleboda1/status/1527402281930575872
Please let me have my own opinions. Please let’s see if what Military Summary was saying is true. Instead of acting like the thought police.
Thank you.
Haha — I have my opinions as well you know.
And my opinion is you skewed it and further Ritter does not have a clue what he is talking about.
Let me add this: https://rumble.com/v18f4bb-ukraine-war-report-scott-ritter-takes-issue-with-andrei-martyanov.html
Besides not having a clue, he also is a NATO man through and through and this is coming through stronger and stronger as he works his way back up to MSM.
China/Taiwan, vs Finland/Sweden as ‘examples’. This is laughable. These were not examples in either case.
I guess my opinion tends to be anti-idiot. I guess, despite invites to speak to his peers, Ritter did not do that, because he knows he is out of his league.
Thank the heavens ..!
Scott Ritter, [6/15/22 9:57 PM]
A discussion on the state of play in Ukraine today with former CIA officer Larry Johnson. We shall hash out our differences of opinion and underscore our points of agreement.
Intel Slava Z on Telegram showed captured beige colored “NATO” helmets for the Ukrainians. A Russia or DPR/LPR guy pulled out a Beretta FS92 9 mm pistol and shot a hole right threw the top. The helment looked fancy but it was cheap plastic or fiberglass offering no protection.
This is the junk that the USA, NATO, Ukraine leaders, Kolomoisky and others are profiting from Jao Bei-Dung and his son Hunter get 10% of the deal.
“The Chorus of The great Walkbalk!”
Thank you, Amarynth
I am chortling with glee.
We’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran. Retired General Wesley Clark
March 2, 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark
Is it me or Russian MOD labelled the SMO after Volodymyr Oleksandrovitch Zelensky (V,O,Z)?
Pretty sure it’s you.
I am guessing after the shooting stops, the Chinese will send to Donbass construction crews with a token military force for security. Building is the forte of the Chinese
The NYT did not cover Dmitry Medvedev’s statement about Ukraine maybe disappearing from the map within two years. The msn news stream did not either. I can’t find it on CNN. They know the story. They know it’s a front-page story. The story was briefly on MSNBC’s The ReidOut, but it was done too fast to read the quote.
The Chinese are indeed copying the SMO idea; it’s a “special military operations” order. The order has 59 articles and 6 chapters; it’s effective starting today or Wednesday. (This copying is kind of funny, somehow.)
The Russian official who once said Kanye West is a music genius (he must like the modern culture) says that all the talk about Russia using nuclear weapons is fake news. Many believed it was real news, eh? The Russian official was giving an interview on Russian television. I don’t know if they asked him or if he just said it. Peskov was the one to give the news about a nuclear policy in the context of Ukraine, though, so it was real news. Then, I think Lavrov confirmed the nuclear policy-protocol. It was fake news in the sense that they just wanted to make the “West” think about it but had no plan to actually use them. This official, anyway, is contradicting Medvedev, Peskov and some other top officials who were ambiguous with respect to weapons. It was fake news only insofar as a use of nuclear weapons is concerned; that’s what this official affirmed on Russian television (msn and Newsweek magazine story). Their explicit warnings, which he also refers to, were as real as warnings can be.
From his own standpoint, why say it? Why clarify by himself what others chose to leave ambiguous? Normally, it should be for those who raised the issue – not for him – to clarify this. Who knows? Once you think Kanye West is a music genius, I think it shows a judgment problem, and it sure was poor judgment to even talk about Kanye West when the issue were the two Russian proposals.
“Russian Official Ignores State TV’s Nuclear War Threats: ‘Fake News'”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-official-ignores-state-tv-s-nuclear-war-threats-fake-news/ar-AAYvASv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1af6a1d421f94b1c8522595c5089e78f
Some videos for today.
Fighting continues in the Lugansk People’s Republic:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/luhansk_corridor_15:0
Mexico denounces NATO’s policy on Ukraine conflict:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Immoral_policy_1506:6
Russian Black Sea Fleet frigate launches salvo of Kalibr missiles:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Kalibr_1506:8
Russia’s OSA missile system deployed amid Ukraine hostilities:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/OSA-1506:2
Fears oil could rise to $175 per barrel amid Russia sanctions:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/caleb_biden_1506:6
One more reason (of so many) that the criminal regime in Ukraine must disappear from history:
The Ukrainian servicemen, who occupied a stronghold in the area of the Animal Farm, appealed by radio to the command of the Russian unit to cease fire and provide a corridor for exit. At about 10 p.m., servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with white flags began to advance towards the Russian positions.
At that moment, a detachment of Ukrainian nationalists, who arrived at the strong point on armored vehicles, opened crossfire at the servicemen of the 54th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the back.
As a result of this execution, 32 Ukrainian servicemen were fatally wounded and killed.
This incident, like many others like it, clearly shows that against the backdrop of growing military failures and the demoralization of Ukrainian troops, the Kyiv nationalist regime is trying to stop the retreat and surrender of its units by punitive actions of detachments.
The lives of Ukrainian servicemen and mobilized fighters of territorial defense units mean nothing to the current leadership of Ukraine. https://t.me/mod_russia/16750
I saw several comments today that Russia is (wisely) focusing on destroying Ukraine military and less so on capturing territory. Russia has chosen to destroy Ukraine military in eastern Ukraine where Russia has tactical advantages. The Ukies are dumb enough to continue sending their troops there. This fully explains why Russia is not capturing territory at a greater rate! The Russians are truly chess masters. The Ukies, not so much.
Russian methods of warfare are very strange to the Western world. Probably one would need to start with the Mongolian General Subutai and work your way forward to understand the concept of Russian maneuver warfare and deep operation. Please consider this wiki page as an outline:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_operation
Do you see something similar in the SMO in Ukraine?
As for NATO, Bulat Okudzhava had something to say about these soldiers long ago….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUO-quXA9Ts
“Russian methods of warfare are very strange to the Western world. Probably one would need to start with the Mongolian General Subutai and work your way forward to understand the concept of Russian maneuver warfare and deep operation.”
Not true historically in terms of the warfare point you make. They lost in WWI against Germany. In WWII, they were defeated by the Germans in 1941 and mainly the Winter stopped the enemy from taking Moscow then. They improved as the war advanced, their soldiers were as brave as they get, but still their victories were decided mostly on numerical and material superiority, with Germany fighting many nations at once. Russia has not had such war experiences until now. In 1954, the German General Erich von Manstein wrote his book “Lost Victories”, and his main point was that victory consists not in gaining territories but in destroying the enemy army (something Hitler would not understand). He wrote that his army was never cauldroned even though Russia had every advantage to do so. They have more war experience than the U.S., don’t they, especially now. The experiences of Iraq, Vietnam or Afghanistan can’t compare with their WWII and present experience. The U.S. came in mostly in 1944 when the best German forces had been lost in Russia. I guess only the Germans have more experience, but their army doesn’t count now. Your point is more true when it comes to spying on the enemy. Otto Skorzeny wrote that they knew all the German battle plans, and also that they were great in “camouflage.” This aspect is not much mentioned today, but they must be having effective spying in Ukraine too and better. It’s the untold story, and yet when we read about what they’re doing, some of it seems to be due to foreknowledge or spy information.
“Russian methods of warfare are very strange to…”
It may be true too. Could the SMO itself be a new war method? Also, the methods of warfare must be in their infancy with all the new weapons of war that exist. Even with the old weapons, it was still something open to new knowledge and strategies. The Russians must have invented new methods in WWII, that we (some of us) don’t know because of the language barrier and ‘ownership’ or just ignorance. For instance, the German “blitzkrieg” was something new devised by Heinz Guderian: “…based on the concept that victory in battle could be achieved with the rapid movement of concentrated mechanized forces supported by close air support as a surrogate for fixed artillery” (Wikipedia). We can see that it was something caused by the new weaponry. The military strategies field must remain open for a lot of new things. The word “race” is not used for it but only for new weapons; I think it’s a race too (why not).
A few pieces of news:
Davyd Arakhamia, who leads Ukraine’s negotiations with Russia, said today in DC 200-500 Ukrainian soldiers are dying each day in Donbas and total daily casualties can reach 1,000
In the same interview, Arakhamia admitted that Ukraine’s negotiating position was too weak to even talk.
From the German Der Tagesspiegel in the theme of walk back:
“Vladimir Zelensky’s statements about the “return” of Crimea to Ukraine are extremely far from reality”,
“Has the person lost his sense of reality? The Ukrainian army is retreating in the Donbass”,
This was on the eve of the visit of the leaders of Germany, France and Italy to Kiev.
According to Der Tagesspiegel, it is likely that Zelensky, when talking about the return of Crimea, is trying to test how far the West is willing to go in order to support Kiev. At the same time, according to the authors, Western leaders are also indulging in dreams in a difficult global environment – that a path to negotiations will be found and none of them will have to make hard decisions.
And then I picked up this:
Inside information about the purpose of the visit of British Defense Minister Ben Wallace to Kyiv
It turns out that Zelensky was very much looking forward (https://t.me/EurasianChoice/15059) to meeting Ben Wallace and his delegation, while the defence minister arrived light and did not hold any talks with the president.
The purpose of the visit was only one:
to demand the recall of all British mercenaries from their positions. London had had enough of the scandal with the two Britons sentenced to death in Donetsk. They do not want another incident like this to happen.
The British did not even start any talk about weapons, and even more so about money. When Zelensky tried to complain about the lack of assistance, he was abruptly cut off by Wallace and once again repeated: to withdraw all British citizens from their positions and ensure they were sent home.
Interesting huh? Visions of Afghanistan coming with Brits hanging on helicopters …
And from Volodin, Chairman of the State Duma .. Zelensky should rename Kiev:
“The neo-Nazi regime, having destroyed the history of its people, turned Ukraine into a US colony. The next step for Zelensky should be to rename Kiev to Nuland,” he wrote.
@ amarynth on June 16, 2022 · at 7:46 am EST/EDT
And from Volodin, Chairman of the State Duma .. Zelensky should rename Kiev:
“The neo-Nazi regime, having destroyed the history of its people, turned Ukraine into a US colony. The next step for Zelensky should be to rename Kiev to Nuland,” he wrote.
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Indispensable Pepe Escobar already did for the entire country, renamed it the “Nuland Khanate.” As for Kiev, soon can be renamed, “No-land,” if we follow Medvedev’s forecast on the existence of Ukraine.
Lone Wolf
The time is ripe for them to watch the dance video produced just five years before his presidency: “This is not Churchill!”
Wow! If this is even half true it’s indicative of a saigon moment unfolding in slow motion before; slowly at first (as per hemingway) then much, much quicker
Operation Z: Military Correspondents of the Russian Spring
‼️🇬🇧Sergey Lavrov’s main statements:
▪️The West is “ready to hurt its citizens” in order to realize its geopolitical ambitions, Lavrov said;
▪️Threats from Ukraine, such as plans to attack the Crimean Bridge, will fail completely;
▪️The “stingers” and “javelins” supplied to Ukraine by the West are already being sold on the black market;
▪️The EU will show its readiness to turn a blind eye to all its admission criteria by providing Ukraine with a roadmap for entry;
▪️They are trying to make a second Ukraine out of Moldova;
▪️The inclusion of Germany and Japan in the UN Security Council will not add any value to this body;
▪️Contacts with Europe have disappeared from Russia’s priorities.
t.me/RVvoenkor
The two American mercenaries were captured alive. Photo recently posted:
https://t.me/supertima/412
By the way, whatever happened to all those rumored high placed American, British, French, operatives that were supposedly captured at Avozstal? Anyone hear anything?
I’ve been trying to figure out why in the world Wesley Clark has repeatedly been so hostile towards the Russians, up to almost starting a firefight at an airfield in Yugoslavia which was delegated to the Russian peacekeeping force but which he absolutely refused to move from until Clinton personally chewed his ass over the phone.
Turns out he’s Zionist/Jewish.
Just a few words from Mr Mazis told to Al Jazeera.
By autumn, it’ll all be over
Crimea and a whole region that will include Odesa will essentially be ceded to Russia. If Odesa falls, it won’t be through attacks. Mykolaiv will fall first, then there will be an easy [Russian] advance to Transnistria. Ukraine will become landlocked, referenda will happen in the autumn, and there will be annexations to Russia … Russia will predominate in the region,” he said.
I fully agree although my bet is on Dnipro River border line all up to Kiev to make East and West Ukraine in the sunrise of new world order cold war.
It would be hilarious if it was not tragical that the western Alliance fought against Nazi Germany is fighting with German copycat Ukraine against another allie that’s not Nazi or democratic enough to be considered equal to their own?
Am I missing something here or that’s how western friends are?
As for 3elensky that I’d never considered to be a friend with just a friendly advice.
Stop using and start talking some sense if you really really want to save Ukraine. For starters stop the slaughter of your boys in Donbas.
As if no fly zone and an embargo on the weapon imports to the sides in conflict upon dissolution of SFRJ.
Over a period of just over 10 years the west didn’t save 130,000 and around 3,000,000 refugees gone elsewhere to live.
Ukraine is beating all the numbers in only four months.
By the end of the year there will be no one left to defend anything if anything is left to defend.
I may be mistaken, however, I believe the Chatham House breakdown of Ukraine from 1994 is the end goal for RFAF Original Chatham House link seems to have been removed, the wayback machine, might be an option. However, the post from Paul Craig Roberts from 2014 with a screenshot of the British Deep State site, reveals the cultural and political affiliation of east/west Ukraine. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Kiev-Ukrain-Map.jpg
I would also like to draw attention to PCRs article from July 2014 where he puts forward a very strong argument that the shooting down of Malaysian Airlines 134 was in fact an attempt to assassinate The Russian President, Vladimir Putin. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/19/happened-malaysian-airliner-paul-craig-roberts/
Forecast – the 2024 map of the Ukrainian/Russia border will look like the 1933 map of the Polish Russian border.
To envision this, in your mind just draw a line from the Northeasternmost corner of Transnitria/Moldova due north to about Minsk.
Or look at it here https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/gallery/poland-maps.
The rational will be that Russia can not allow a US/NATO armed hostile entity on its border, so Eastern Ukraine will become a Russian protectorate or part of Russia. Western Ukraine will be returned to Polish control/oversight, with the understanding it will not be militarized or become part of NATO or Poland – a Polish protectorate if you will. Internally, western Ukraine can be left to its own devices to clean up the banderistas/nazis if it is willing. If not, Poland and Russia will agree a methodology/governance for them.
Poland will get the return of lands which historicallly have been part of them (at times) and normalized relations with Russian and through them Asia. As doorkeeper between Europe and Russia/Asia, this could be a very advantageous position. A giant shipping hub – they might even change the railroad gauges within Poland so they could transship to the western Polish border all the way from China.
Western Ukraine internally will be left
Telling the truth to the empire of lies: from an article by Douglas McGregor…
“The Western media did everything in its power to give the Ukrainian defense the appearance of far greater strength than it really possessed. Careful observers noted that the same video clips of Russian tanks under attack were shown repeatedly. Local counterattacks were reported as though they were operational maneuvers.”
“…The result has been the piecemeal annihilation of Ukrainian forces. Only the episodic infusion of U.S. and allied weapons kept Kiev’s battered legions in the field; legions that are now dying in great numbers thanks to Washington’s proxy war….”
“Whether the fighting stops in the early fall will depend on two key factors. The first involves the leadership in Kiev. Will the Zelensky government consent to the Biden program for perpetual conflict with Russia?
If the Biden administration has its way, Kiev will continue to operate as a base for the buildup of new forces poised to threaten Moscow.”
The article continues. I daresay that after running against JIMMY CARTER for 45 years, the Republicans can now run against Biden. Oh happy day!
The US, EU, and NATO banked on the economic and financial sanctions to collapse Russia and weaken its military, which then would be more susceptible to the limited amounts of foreign weaponry given to ukraine. This plan failed, since the economic and financial sanctions backfired. Now, the only options they have are to continue pumping weapons into ukraine and keep this going-using whatever fools they can find (ukrops, foreign mercs, Moldavians).This is supposed to be NATO’s panacea for being unable to intervene directly. Second option is to end this and make a deal with Russia.