by Alexander Mercouris
Since Greek was granted a 4 month extension there has been a sustained attempt both within Greece and in the English speaking world to claim that it is Syriza rather than the EU hardliners that came out ahead on points. This is the view of Tsipras but also the view of such Anglophone commentators ranging from Jack Rasmus on the far left to Paul Krugman on the liberal left and to Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on the right.
Supposedly, Syriza won some flexibility on the supposedly key issue of the size of Greece’s primary budget deficit, which was a small but significant victory over the EU hardliners.
Let me say clearly that given the circumstances in which Syriza found itself, I do not think it had any realistic alternative other than to negotiate the 4 month extension on the terms that it did. The alternative would have risked with high probability both a Grexit and a total collapse of the Greek banking system, which the Greek people were at the time of the extension simply not prepared for.
However I have to say that I think claims that Syriza won any sort of victory are overdone. It is clearly the case that Syriza saw off the insane proposal by Schauble and the hardliners that it stick without deviation to the existing bailout plan. However what people who talk of this as a “victory” overlook is that greater flexibility on the size of the primary budget surplus was (1) not what Syriza promised the Greek people during the election. What Syriza promised the Greek people was a reduction in the overall level of Greece’s debt; and (2) that it is highly likely that the outgoing government of Antonios Samaras would also have negotiated greater flexibility on the size of Greece’s primary budget deficit without any of the drama and ill-feeling we have seen over the last few weeks.
The point to understand is that unless there is a restructuring of Greece’s debt, either by a lengthening of the terms of repayment or through an outright debt write-off (surely the most logical option), then flexibility on the size of the primary budget surplus is limited since the whole point of setting it at the ridiculous target of 4.5% of GDP is to generate a sufficient surplus to start paying off the debt. Needless to say, given the size of the debt, on the existing terms of repayment that would mean running such a surplus for decades, something, which would utterly devastate whatever is left of Greece’s economy if it were done, which of course it won’t be.
As it happens, I think it is most unlikely that Greece is actually running a primary budget surplus at all. Output appears to have fallen sharply in the last quarter of 2014 (with the fall beginning before the election was called) whilst tax receipts seem to have fallen off a cliff since the start of the year. Whether Greece ever did run a primary budget surplus for any part of 2014 (and my brother for one believes that claims that it did were smoke and mirrors) I think it is very unlikely that it is doing so now. With the economy in the state it is in, I think that any plan to run a primary budget surplus at whatever level so that Greece can remain in the Eurozone and pay its debts is anyway an utterly fantastic one. I am sure that Yaroufakis at least is clever enough to understand this.
In my opinion the only realistic way forward is for Syriza to use whatever grace period it has got (and it may turn out to be a lot less than 4 months) to prepare the Greek economy and the Greek people for a default and (since the European authorities in their great unwisdom have decided that a default is incompatible with membership of the Eurozone) for a Grexit.
I hope and pray that Syriza realise this since it seems to me the only way forward. The information I am getting from people in Greece (including my parents) is unrelievedly grim, with people now running out of money to pay for even basic necessities and with the economy essentially at a standstill. Support for Syriza remains exceptionally strong but this cannot continue for much longer.
Mistral update.
mar 9
http://tass.ru/en/world/781746
PARIS, March 9. /TASS/. The amphibious assault helicopter carrier of the Mistral class, the Sevastopol, being built at France’s St. Nazaire shipyards for Russia, will undergo the first sea trials on March 16-20, the contractor company DCNS told TASS, adding that the purpose of the checks will be test navigation systems.
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The first ship, the Vladivostok, launched in October 2013, was to be delivered to Russia back in November 2014. At the last moment Paris suspended the handover indefinitely saying the crisis in Ukraine was the reason. The Vladivostok has since remained moored in St. Nazaire. The Sevastopol is to be finalized by the end of this year.
I wonder how it is that Russia can’t build their own ships.
They can, but with a totally new design of vessel, it is often cheaper to get someone else to build the first one or two, then build the follow-ups. The USN LCS-2, while built in the USA was essentially an Australian design, though not something that the RAN would ever build or use.
They can. This has been discussed on this forum before. You can search and inform yourself.
“… I wonder how it is that Russia can’t build their own ships. …”
It can build, of course. That whole “Mistral” idiocy was merely part of Medvedev’s naïve brown-nosing to his “western partners” during his presidency.
BTW, if Putin indeed has such a firm grip on power, how come he still keeps Medvedev? Can’t do without him? If so, why? If not, why keep him?
Sure, the Russians can build their own ships. The whole Mistral deal was cooked up back in 2008 in order to reward France for brokering a cease-fire in the Georgian War that year. It was more a political deal than an economic necessity. Another attempt by Moscow to create goodwill with the western countries. So if Hollande stupidly cancels it, it’ll be France’s loss, not Russia’s. Russia will just build their own.
Buying weapons systems and other technology is buying technology. Saves heaps on R and D.
Big Business = lots of friendly ties
http://tass.ru/en/russia/781724
interesting brazil not on the list, but maduro’s much smaller country is.
According to the company’s rating Russian weapons export last year reached $10 billion, going up by 9% as compared with 2013. The largest importers of Russian weapons were China ($2.3 billion), India, ($1.7 billion), Venezuela and Vietnam ($1 billion each).
Inflation and corruption scandal are doing the destabilizing in Brazil.
The US has had its fist up Brazil’s bottom since the Alliance for Progress.
What we’ve seen the last ten years in Brazil is an anomaly. In the long run, the B in BRICS is on quicksand.
It will be sheer luck if she survives. My hopes are with Brazil. But the US is doing its dirty work in the media and the streets, as usual.
‘Inflation and corruption scandal are doing the destabilizing in Brazil.’
Incomplete sentence: the truth is that fabricated and scandalous reports of inflation (which is one the smallest Brazil has ever had) and corruption (which the government investigates, punishing the culprits – NO GOVERNMENT BEFORE has done this!) are plotted and promoted by the opposition and the local mainstream media, supported by the US, of course. Who else?
The elite are pressing the government to make it impossible to govern while they organize a march (to occur in the middle of March) asking for the impeachment of the president WITH THE SUPPORT of the biggest TV network, Globo. Are they planning a colour revolution? Maybe… The truth is that the opposition in Brazil is filthy and it is much more active now than ever before. And, as always, they do not care about democracy if it is not in their own terms. As they say: if the people choose candidates we do not approve, we will make sure that they will not govern.
http://tass.ru/en/world/781760
LUHANSK, 9 March. /TASS/. Kiev is four days behind the schedule of withdrawal of heavy weapons, envoy to the Contact Group on settlement of the crisis in Ukraine representing the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) Vladislav Deinego told a news conference on Monday.
no wonder india is such a sought after customer for jetplanes & aircraft.
http://tass.ru/en/world/763710
Earlier this week, the Times of India newspaper, citing a defense ministry source, said India has lost 1,100 helicopters and planes since 1970, and 39% of the accidents occurred through pilots’ fault and most of technical malfunctions were caused by improper technical maintenance and aging.
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tass.ru/en/russia/781741
MOSCOW, 9 March. /TASS/. India is ready to seal a big project with Russia for the stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), The Times of India wrote referring to the country’s defense ministry.
“Faced with continuing deadlock in the mega deal to acquire 126 French Rafale fighters, India is now pressing the throttle to seal the even bigger project with Russia for the stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA),” the newspaper wrote.
They ought to stick with su-30,35, etc variants. 5th gen fighters are.overated….in wargames the Indians shot down f22’s with………mig21s. At least the pilots of. Russia’s 5th gen can breathe ;)
You may be interested in this older RT article.
http://rt.com/news/pak-fa-unlimited-oxygen-supply-198/
Given the size of the debt and given the unwillingness of the EU (Germany and France) to take a voluntary and substantial haircut, the best option for Greece is preparation (and negotiating stance) for a default, Grexit and return to the Drachma. The likely consequences of such an action are worse for EU and Euro enthusiasts than for Greece. In any case, it’s a matter of “No Pain – No Gain”. Greece should make overtures to Russia and the sooner, the better! That will put some real pressure on Merkel and Hollande, for starters – and then we’ll see who blinks first.
The Kremlin does not want to support a bankrupt Greek state, see http://johnhelmer.net/?p=12834.
“John Helmer” allright, as we know “him”. Way too many people are reading obvious disinfo and stupidly parroting it all over the net.
It’s not about any failed state or such, but due to the simple fact that Syriza is a part of the Brussels system. There is no greek left, there is only a european left centered in Brussels. Syriza is also in the Matrix.
What Syriza want is just a more socialist-colored version of the EU. They are in no way anti-EU nor are they sincere friends of the people.
And frankly, there is no sincere leftist party in Europe at all, anywhere. They’re all actors.
“They’re all actors.”
BINGO!
Actually, it should be “THEY are all ALIEN actors!” All the world’s a stage and we are now witnessing the “Theater of the Absurd”, aka “The Twilight Zone’ and “1984”. The Sandy Hook Hoax, Boston Marathon Bombing Hoax and Aurora Theater Shooting Hoax were FULL OF Alien Actors. SEE HERE for the complete scene-by-scene play (last scene yet to be staged).
Sorry dude but you are not quite right in your head. I do not want any affiliation or “support” from you, thanks but no thanks.
“The likely consequences of such an action are worse for EU and Euro enthusiasts than for Greece.”
I think the consequences are good for both. The flexibility of the drachma will allow Greece to get back into business, and the rest will be relieved of the burden of financing the Greek deficit.
The Greek debt is probably too much to bear. They should have defaulted on the debt a couple years ago. Instead, our wise German and Frech leaders decided to put our tax payer ass on the line instead of having investors in Greek bonds from all over the planet suffer the losses from the default. It was their investor risk; now it’s the common tax payers’ risk, eh I mean, loss.
Greece is now crying for help insteading of doing the honest thing and helping herself, by leaving the Euro. Who knows, maybe this is the use-once scapegoat government to do the Grexit, and then it’s going back to tried-and-true PASOK or Neo Demokratia. ;)
Je suis Grexit
Jim willie amer ex-pat phd lives in cr since 2006) mar 3
discusses right at start first 5 minutes greece & how it’s close now to his prediction of 3 years ago they will default & leave (gr-exit)
Collapse of the European Union | Jim Willie (Part 2)
34 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyMhyvEUHs8
You know, this is not twitter. You are allowed and highly encouraged to write in proper English sentences with real words! For example, what the hell is “cr”???
PS When it comes to a show-down between the PIIGS and the pigs (Germany and France), I think the PIIGS are more likely to fly and the pigs will just grunt and take that haircut!
Another interesting development regarding Greece is the news that EU suppliers started demanding Cash-In-Advance for exports to Greece. This means that the two major shipment insurance companies worldwide (both French) don’t insure shipments to the country, anymore. This is the second time in a few years that this is happening. As a result, shortages in any kind of products, from food and clothing, to electronics will follow and will be evident very soon.
My bet will be on the scenario that says that the German government is preparing to make an example out of Syriza and the Greek default, with maximum casualties. Let us not forget that due to the EU Common Agriculture Policy, Greece is forbidden to produce it’s own food. I.e. it cannot feed its own population and has to import everything it used to produce before entering the Union. This silent embargo is a new type of economic siege warfare, to ensure that the rest (the Spanish etc) will keep on paying up for the debts of the German and French banks. When this starts, with a default, expect the German MSM to declare that “this is ‘sad’, but the Greeks brought that to themselves”, while showing Greek children dying of hunger to scare everybody off.
So here in Greece we’ve already started to think the unthinkable: The Germans are back and Death follows! If this happens, don’t make no mistake: With God’s help, we will survive them once more.
@Anax
Thanks so much for the precious ‘news’ which can be rarely got from media.
As Mr. Hallinan beautifully brings to light in his recent article Greece: A Whisper of Battles Past, I also strongly believe the greatest Greek will survive them!!!
With ocean’s solidarity from Vietnam
Time to plant crops.And figure on grain imports (if needed) from Russia.The 3rd largest grain exporter in the world.The first priority of an “independent” state, I would think ,is to be able to feed yourself.Its different of course in having the fancy foods from worldwide.But the essentials to survive should always be produced in your own nation if possible.
They can somehow stop enterprises from large-scale food production. But they can’t stop YOU planting food crops in YOUR garden.
Greece urgently needs to start a campaign for everyone to GROW FOOD. Even if they get bad yields, if they get the one type only and bored to tears eating the same, it is better than starving. Neighbors can swap. Villages can have tiny markets.
You can’t grow wheat in a back yard, but vegetables you can. Potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, beans…. in towns public areas can be divided into plots.
This is how Donbass will survive 2015. This is what Russia is doing to reduce the impact of fewer food imports. Americans need to start doing it too.
My thoughts exactly.
Already more and more people here (Ireland) are moving to small, local suppliers – butchers with their own herds, dairy – big industry here – and vegetables – roots, brassicas, toms. Blue and red berries are also making a comeback.
Russian grain will go up in price as they are known to be GMO- free. There is deep distrust of American foods as they won’t label them. British beef is still distrusted.
A friend who works in the Dept of Agriculture. My friend told me that they had to pull American strawberries out of circulation as they were GM – had some unwittingly myself, and they tasted terrible, though they looked great.
The good news is…we DO produce our own food & CAN be self-sufficient minus imported luxuries.
A “highly agitated” Secretary Nuland contacted Minister Lavrov yesterday demanding that Russia immediately order Iran to return to US custody the 4 CIA agents arrested and detained for directing ISIS terror forces in Iraq.
Secretary Nuland, also, this report continues, “bluntly warned” Minister Lavrov that should Moscow ever again provide to France, or any other NATO nation, superior “electronic-technology”, and for the Russian air force to continue disabling US warships, she would further order the American military to “aggressively respond”.
Equally as disturbing to Secretary Nuland’s destruction of Ukraine, which STRATFOR (aka The Shadow CIA) head George Friedman recently called “the most blatant coup in history”, this report further notes, has been her “coordinated actions” with her former lover and current NATO commander General Philip Breedlove whose continued lies about Russian involvement in this conflict has left Germany “stunned” and led their government this past weekend to label his words as “dangerous propaganda”.
What appeared to be most concerning to Secretary Nuland, however, MoFA experts in this report say, was Moscow allowing the French navy earlier last month to equip their nuclear attack submarine Saphir with one of Russia’s revolutionary electronic warfare systems weapons, and which allowed this submarine to sink an entire US navy carrier group, including the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, in war games conducted off the coast of Florida.
To how greatly feared by Secretary Nuland, and her Bush-Clinton criminal masters, this new Russian weapons system is, this report says, can be read, in part, as related by top US defense experts who stated last year after its first use:
“Russian Sukhoi Su -24 with the newest jamming complex paralyzed in the Black Sea the most modern American combat management system “Aegis” installed on the destroyer “USS Donald Cook”. Pavel Zolotarev, Deputy Director, Institute of USA and Canada, shares details about this version which is being actively discussed in the Russian media and by bloggers.
US destroyer “Donald Cook” with cruise missiles “Tomahawk” entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10. The purpose was a demonstration of force and intimidation in connection with the position of Russia in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters is in contradiction of the Montreux Convention about the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea by the military ships of countries not washed by this sea.
In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, “Aegis” spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. “Aegis” was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.
Apparently, all efforts to revive the “Aegis” and provide target information for the defence failed.”
Where do you get this? Sounds crazy. Any verification? An original I found says it was published by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Where?
Is this made up by crazy people for fools to believe? If not, where is that official published document?
sounds like u pasted an excerpt of disinfo & delusion by that fulford disinfotard.
he is notorious for taking a few recent big events, & inventing a complete fairy tale web of imagination and weaving them into a supposed timeline.
the montreaux convention in no way prohibits us warships–it simply limits the size each & combined gross tonnage any one time.
if one warship is entering, another is to immediately leave to not exceed that limit.
worse, how would russia be that stupid to allow any supersecret technology aboard a nato member ship of all things, one which they never trust anyway & is holding up their mistral ship(s)?
all russia would do is put it onboard their own subs, & with just 2 near to the dardanelles/bosporus they could bottleneck them into the black sea bathtub & disable them all, not just 1.
LOL! Sounds like a Sorcha Faal report, replete with lurid tales of “experts” & “reports” sucked directly out of her thumb.
Nice copy and paste from “Sorcha Faal” (aka Such a Fool) actually David Booth, an American computer programmer-cum-agency asset. “Sorcha Faal” was (I guess still is) a very old disinfo project, throughly exposed and utterly discredited over a decade ago. I can’t believe that someone is still reading Booth’s (or a successor using the same silly byline?) juvenile nonsense in 2015. Give it up already!
I have to wonder if this was really the latest and greatest Russian electronic warfare devices — if they would reveal the existence of their best stuff.
It’s the ‘unknown unknowns’ that worries the US the most, of course.
It’s funny to think Nuland thinks the US can order Russia around. Some people never learn…
I’d take that with a grain of salt.It smacks a bit of propaganda.Though,from another view if true.Russia show stop talking about her new military equipment.That is something that should come as a deadly surprise to an enemy when, or if,its needed to be used.
Lavrov is being ‘ordered’ to ‘order’ Iran to release US citizens up to criminal activities by Nuland?
Must have been news to Lavrov that a) Iran is part of the Russian Federation and b) he is supposed to take orders from the US.
Beyond satire..
However, I do believe the Russians have the means to disable radar/GPS.
The SF programme uses the old trick of wrapping a kernel of truth in a tissue of hyperbole, some of it nonsense. I use probability/motivation/known facts to discern the elements that are likely to be true.
Remember, disinfo is put out for a reason.
I’m surprised so many saker supporters are so disbelieving. Shouldn’t you guys trust your own sources ?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
Let’s face it. Greece was (and still is) the Achilles Heel of the EU. Specifically, Greece was targeted by the Yankees to destroy the rising euro. The plan has worked to perfection and then some. If you don’t believe me, search online for something that William Engdahl wrote concerning this evil plot.
Having said that, it’s time for Greece to do what Argentina did in 2001/2. I wasn’t here then but Argentina defaulted on around $100 Billion. It was bad. The IMF-instigated medicine or resultant of our financial default was very painful. Many children died of malnutrition. Some women sold their bodies to live. But we survived.
What doesn’t kill you DOES make you stronger.
Fast forward to 2015, Argentina, despite the relentless and monolithic Presstitute media campaign against our current President and government, has a vibrant economy, Yankee financial terrorism aka Paul Singer, King Griesa et al. notwithstanding.
This prolonged slow-dying that Greece is going through is just plain stupid. The quicker they do what Argentina did, i.e., tell the IMF, the Troika and the EU to Fu*k Off, the quicker they will recover financially and economically. Especially, if they align themselves with Russia, China, etc.
Instead of
” tell the IMF, the Troika and the EU to Fu*k Off,…”
use more pertinent
“tell the IMF, the Troika and the EU to Nuland themselves”
A little off the topic, but, what the heck.
Britain’s Scotland Yard Chief wants CCTV cameras in everyone’s home.
If you have a really asinine idea, please submit it directly to any European capital. Or Brussels HQ.
Apparently, you can’t be laughed at by these a**holes running things in Europe. A bad or ludicrous idea delights them like a feather tickler on their bare bottom.
God Save the Queens
Not as bad as it sounds.
See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2985202/Scotland-Yard-chief-Hogan-Howe-calls-DIY-surveillance-help-police.html
The idea is for homeowners to use these cameras to catch thieves, and they would be under control by the homeowner.
China Completes SWIFT Alternative, May Launch “De-Dollarization Axis” As Soon As September
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-09/de-dollarization-encircles-globe-china-completes-swift-alternative-may-launch-soon-s
Eurogroup Humiliation Of Greece Complete: The Troika Is Coming Back To Athens.
Having been shamed what seems like numerous times now by the Eurogroup in recent weeks, Greece suffered its greatest humiliation today. First, the farcical renaming of ‘Troika’ to ‘Institutions’ was summarily dismissed as “semantics,” as France played good cop (asking for the group not to call it Troika) while Germany’s bad-cop Schaeuble used the T-word four times in one interview. And second, Eurogroup chairman Dijsselbloem stated that “technical teams will begin considering Greek reform plans on Wednesday,” adding that some of the negotiations will have to take place “in situ in Athens.” So instead of discussing reforms with institutions in Brussels, the Varoufakis-defined “cabal of technocrats” Troika will be back on Greek soil to straighten out the nation
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-09/eurogroup-humiliation-greece-complete-troika-coming-back-athens
When Syriza had won the Greek election, everyone was holding their breath ! Except I !
I’m really disappointed that I was right !
Mr. Mercouris’ instincts are dead on in regards to this matter. There ultimately is no alternative to a Grexit given that the entire Eurozone experiment was flawed at its inception. Prof Bill Mitchell explains further…
Michael Hudson also really likes the Greek party…. realnews.com
Wood is measured in inches, but you can’t build a house from inches, and you can’t build an economy from money. Basic MMT, as well as other established economic thinking.
What Greece needs is utilization, employment, production — a tangible economy. That can even be used for trade through a ‘bartering’ system: goods for goods.
Money can be handy, but it’s also the best way to manipulate others, people or nations, and control the world, which is what the empire is using it for now. So build your houses and economy from centimeters instead of inches.
A well-known Finnish journalist and politician Antero Eerola was beaten in Ukraine after registering ceasefire violation by Kiev forces, Vantaan Sanomat reports.
During his trip to Ukraine in February, Eerola witnessed that the Ukrainian Forces positioned at Svitlodarsk, a government-controlled town, shelled Donbas self-defense troops despite the recently signed ceasefire agreement.
“There, the government forces fired cannon fire on the rebel positions just 12 hours after the start of the ceasefire”, Eerola said.
Later in the evening, Eerola and his photographer moved to the frontline from another direction and were just 10 miles away from Horlivka, controlled by independence supporters.
Kiev Court Releases Suspect in Attack on LifeNews Journalist
After returning to Kiev-controlled Slaviansk, the two went to a local restaurant. Suddenly, a group of young men speaking Ukrainian in an aggressive tone, approached the reporters. Eerola answered he did not understand Ukrainian and spoke only Russian. The presence of foreign journalists in the area was undesired, Eerola concluded from what he could understand from the men’s words.
One of the men hit the journalist in the face tearing his lower lip.
The reporter said the freedom of speech was deteriorating in Ukraine. Moreover, he said Finland did not provide the complete picture of the Ukrainian conflict. The press and politicians instilled the idea that external interference was the source of the crisis, which was not objective.
“It is easy to cast the blame for everything on Russia”, Eerola said.
Maidan activists are deeply disappointed with the results of the regime change in the country, Eerola said.
Moreover, the Finnish journalist criticized Ukraine for oppressing opposition.
“I have never seen such a circus in the courtroom: complete chaos, name calling and threats,” Eerola commented on two right-wing parties’ attempt to get the Ukrainian Communist Party prohibited.
A couple of different sites with some great articles.
https://m.facebook.com/pages/Russia-Truth/714016298647274
https://m.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTruthfromUkraine
Hopefully his reports if broadcast in Finland will wake people up to the “real” junta in Ukraine.And that they aren’t the “freedom loving democrats” the EU’s MSM is feeding to Europeans.
here’s a link to the original Finnish story.
http://www.helsinginuutiset.fi/artikkeli/270400-vasemmistoliiton-antero-eerola-pahoinpideltiin-ita-ukrainassa
One thing is certain. Should Greece give the zionazi banksters the finger, the full weight of the ZPC/NWO closet queen club will come down on them. As it is on Russia and on Venezuela.
Obama’s Sanctions Seek to Topple Venezuelan Government – Maduro
Greece Threatens to Send Islamic Terrorists to Europe
Greece’s defense minister threatened to “flood Europe with migrants,” including potential members of the so-called Islamic State, unless Athens receives debt crisis support. Panos Kammenos said Greece will unleash a “wave of millions of economic migrants” on Europe unless the eurozone backs down on austerity demands. If Greece is unable to convince the eurozone and International Monetary Fund to continue payments on a £172billion bailout, the country will go bust later this month, forcing it out of the European Union’s single currency.
Greece’s border with Turkey is the EU’s frontline against illegal immigration and European measures to stop extremists travelling to and from IS bases in Iraq and Syria. If the eurozone allowed Greece to go bust, Greece would grant EU travel papers to illegal immigrants crossing its borders or to the 10,000 currently held in detention centers, Kammenos warned.
“If they deal a blow to Greece, then they should know the migrants will get papers to go to Berlin,” he said. “If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State too.” Kammenos said the EU’s passport-free “Schengen” travel zone left the eurozone vulnerable. The Schengen area is an area comprising 26 European countries – excluding Britain – that have abolished passport controls at their common borders, allowing travelers to move freely between countries. “If they strike us, we will strike them. We will give to migrants from everywhere the documents they need to travel in the Schengen area, so that the human wave could go straight to Berlin,” Kammenos said.
Last week, Nikos Kotzias, the Greek foreign minister, told a meeting of his EU colleagues that if Greece was forced out of the euro “there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists.” EU officials have taken the threats seriously, and have sought assurances that no measures were being taken to open detention centers. Greece and its creditors agreed two weeks ago to extend the bailout, but troubled negotiations with the new government have caused creditors to threaten to cut Athens off from funds by the end of March.
I suppose this is a sort of blowback – playing on the carefully zionazi crafted fears of Muslims in Europe. I wonder if the zionist Jewish-supremacists planners thought about this angle when they started their campaign to genocide Muslims and get everybody to hate and fear Muslims?
Interesting bit of political judo at work here, and so soon after the meet. The lessons are already being put into practice… ;D
Such asinine statements by Kammenos and Kotzias, in my view, only add to the notion that Greece cannot be trusted, and cannot even be taken seriously.
A lot of Islamic terrorists already are in Europe, many of them disguised as Turkish businessmen. There has been a trickle of them for years, via Turkey-Bulgaria-Romania-Hungary and congregating in Germany. They run drug rings and prostitution rings (including minors), and they are in cahoots with many from the police of those countries who are protecting them, especially in Romania.
Pro-Russian militia say Ukraine’s army continue shelling Donetsk Airport.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=QDARWCuaocU
This article was one of the best analyses I’ve encountered since the Greek election: it gets right to the point.
Probably the most helpful thing Mr. Tsipras could do now would be to encourage the Greek people to create self-help communities, stocking up on essentials for the next year.
If history is any teacher, however, we might rather expect Mr. Tsipras, et al., to be bought off by well-heeled interests, thereby continuing the journey of Greece into Hades.
Whatever decision and whatever the outcome, I hope that the Greeks get to choose their fate for themselves through a national referendum.
Nearly At “Full Employment”? 10 Reasons Why The Unemployment Numbers Are A Massive Lie –
So what in the world is going on? How can the government be telling us that we are nearly at “full employment” when so many people can’t find work? Could it be possible that the government numbers are misleading?
The primary reason for the decline in the official “unemployment rate” is the fact that the government now considers millions upon millions of long-term unemployed workers to “no longer be in the labor force”.
Read more here:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-09/nearly-full-employment-10-reasons-why-unemployment-numbers-are-massive-lie
Grexit is the only way to end this misery. Greece didn’t qualify for the Euro, yet was included, and not against the wishes of the majority of its people (as in Germany, where the people weren’t asked, as usual). Greece then didn’t handle the Euro well, drawing too much money from the spigot to be burnt in consumption of imports and raising wages. Now, how can they hope to compete with Turkey while keeping the Euro and the current price level? They keep complaining about their misery … and yet they seem to want to keep the Euro. Grexit should have happened long ago. Grexit is the only way to get Greece back on track.
Also, it is beyond me why other Euro country tax payers should subsidize them when they fail to collect taxes from their own people, especially from their hyper billionaires.
And another thing, it’s always easy to blame others, especially us evil Germans.
Problem is, people here don’t buy it. Okay, wrong, certain leftie Germans do buy it … because they’ll buy every single BS on this planet provided it is argued that “it’s the Germans’ fault”, where “Germans” is defined as “non-leftie Germans” (evil, unrepentant, potential fascists), whereas these lefties tend to think of themselves as “Europeans” … even if the only foreign language they speak is English, what a joke.
Maybe not.
There are other explanations I’ve heard from economists I trust.
Here’s one article,
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-causes-of-the-catastrophic-crisis-in-greece-and-the-left/5365013
The Real Causes of the Catastrophic Crisis in Greece and the “Left”
By Takis Fotopoulos
Global Research, January 16, 2014
1. The integration of Greece into the EU is the real cause of its catastrophic crisis
The almost complete destruction of the lower classes in Greece is not due to the causes usually attributed to it by the “Left”.[1] In fact, contrary to the misleading “explanations” provided by this Left and the Right alike, the actual cause is the full integration of the Greek economy into neoliberal globalization, through its accession into the EU. This has meant the complete transformation of Greece into an economic and political protectorate of the Transnational Elite.[2]
The catalyst for this crisis was Greece’s unofficial default, which, however, was merely the consequence of the destruction of its production structure, as a result of the opening, and liberalization of markets imposed the EU, following Greece’s entry in 1981. It is therefore no wonder that both the Left (apart from the Communist Left) and the Right––in fact, the entire Greek establishment––are fully united in not challenging the main cause of the present economic destruction: Greece’s membership in the EU.
In other words, contrary to the deceptive pre-election promises of SYRIZA, (which is an organic part of the Euro-left that has just chosen its leader, A. Tsipras, as its candidate for president of the EU Commission), there is no way that an EU/EMU Member State could refuse to apply the policies imposed by neoliberal globalization, as borne out by History with Mitterrand, Lafontaine, Hollande, et. al. It is equally disorienting to state, as SYRIZA does, that, if elected to power, it would revert the catastrophic legislation imposed by the well known ‘Troika’ (representing the IMF, the EU and the ECB) in the past three years or so.
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Also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis
The Greek government-debt crisis (also known as the Greek Depression[3][4][5] in reference to the Great Depression) is part of the ongoing European debt crisis, being triggered by the turmoil of the Great Recession, and believed to have been directly caused locally in Greece by a combination of structural weaknesses of the Greek economy along with a decade long pre-existence of overly high structural deficits and debt-to-GDP levels on public accounts. In late 2009, fears of a sovereign debt crisis developed among investors concerning Greece’s ability to meet its debt obligations, due to a reported strong increase in government debt levels along with continued existence of high structural deficits.[6][7][8] This led to a crisis of confidence, indicated by a widening of bond yield spreads and the cost of risk insurance on credit default swaps compared to the other countries in the Eurozone, most importantly Germany.[9][10]
In April 2010, on top of the news about the recorded adverse deficit and debt data for 2008 and 2009, the national account data revealed the Greek economy had also been hit by three distinct recessions (Q3-Q4 2007, Q2-2008 until Q1-2009, and a third starting in Q3-2009). When this negative news package was received by credit rating agencies, in particular the onset of a third ongoing recession in Q3-2009, causing a further rise of the debt-to-GDP ratio to 127% in 2009 and 146% in 2010, they responded by downgrading the Greek government debt to junk bond status (below investment grade), and the traded bond yields rose so high that private capital markets were practically no longer available for Greece as a funding source.
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And
http://www.thepressproject.net/article/58136/Ignoring-the-data-about-Greeces-debt-why-austerity-is-based-on-a-myth-and-will-not-work
Busting the myths of what caused the Greek crisis and why austerity won΄t work
During the early 2000’s with the launch of the euro, low interest rates on borrowing allowed Greece to live way beyond its means, racking up huge debts to fund excessive social spending and a bloated state apparatus. So goes the dominant narrative as to what caused Greece’s sovereign debt crisis. The only problem is that it isn΄t true, argues author and political economist Zoltan Pogatsa.
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Mythbusting – The social aspect
One of the myths Mr. Pogatsa is at pains to debunk is that of ‘Greek exceptionalism,’ the idea that Greece amounts to a special case that is somehow hardwired to be a free-spending basket case of a country.
“Greece is more of a case study than an exception,” he told TPPi. “I think it is a case study of how a middle income country that is trying to converge with the core of the global economy runs into all kinds of difficulties.”
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The ‘standard’ explanation is similar to how neolibs and conservatives blame the people in the US, and elsewhere, for being poor. Yet, as Parenti says in the talks I linked to last night, there is a causal relationship between the creation of the very rich and poverty for the rest of the people. That’s easy to see in the crisis of 2008, etc., where the wealthy grew much wealthier while the working class ended up bailing them out.
The Global Class Warfare you describe (1% vs 99%) is part of the ALIEN AGENDA. The Ultimate Objective is destruction of the human habitat (Fukushima, GMO, engineered diseases, technology tyranny, etc.) and human ENSLAVEMENT. THEY LIVE and THEY are Control Freaks (NSA Mass Surveillance, Domestic Drones, FEMA Camps, Gun Control legislation, NDAA, etc.).
Germany is part of the Western Zionist (ALIEN) Empire of Deception and Lies! Frau Ferkel (PIG) is a Netanyahu ass-kisser who also kissed Sharon’s and Olmert’s ass before Netanyahu came along. She just LOVES it when those Israeli Zionist Slimeballs shower Palestininas in the GAZA GULAG with phosphor shells and cluster bombs. She also gives them nuclear-capable subs on the cheap – what for?! Germany primarily (also France) enticed Greece with Billions to go down the slippery slope of self-gratification and easy money. It could never work, it didn’t work and it won’t work – ever. It was not designed to work! The Western Zionist Empire is in the business of economic destruction, human misery and death! If the Greeks don’t get off that slippery slope and take the painful meds of living within their means, they will be doomed – like the rest of the PIIGS and everyone else (goyim) on the planet.
@ Lumi: pretty much noone really qualified for the Euro, not even Germany or France.
But that is not an issue, you obviously fail to recognize what it’s all about – this is simply economic warfare, the takeover of everything of value by the “money masters”.
Noone is subsidizing anyone, that money is being created out of thin air. German “money elites” made a fortune with this, greeks have to pay it back with real money. It’s a double win for the vampires.
As for the german issue, just insert “german Anglo-Vassals” there instead of Germans as a whole, then it will fit better.
I may be a bit late,but thank you mods for ‘putin’ time stamp in.GMT=UTC.I’m quite old fashioned .
Varoufakis: “Why don’t you treat us as a going concern?”
Schäuble: “Because you aren’t.”
The Greek state is to be liquidated. And not just the Greek state. It’s not even a secret.
China’s mega international payment system is ready, will launch this year – report
The China International Payment System (CIPS) is due to kick off this year, bringing the yuan a step closer to becoming a global trading currency, as the new system will make payment transfers just as easy as in dollars and euro.
The launch is expected in September or October, depending on how tests go, a source told Reuters. Another person with direct knowledge of the matter said the goal is to start the first phase before December, Reuters reported.
“The CIPS is ready now and China has selected 20 banks to do the testing, among which 13 banks are Chinese banks and the rest are subsidiaries of foreign banks,” one of the sources told the agency.
The Greek people must take a stand, as they did at Thermopylae.
Their only road to freedom and prosperity is by restoring their independence from the IMF/EU/American/Zionist Banker Oligarchs.
The debt is owed the Greek people, not by the Greek people.
Former American President and architect of American freedom, Thomas Jefferson, insisted: in his letter to James Madison:
“I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self evident, ‘that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living’:”
“Then I say the earth belongs to each of these generations, during it’s course, fully, and in their own right. The 2d. Generation receives it clear of the debts and incumberances of the 1st. The 3d of the 2d. and so on. For if the 1st. Could charge it with a debt, then the earth would belong to the dead and not the living generation.”
It is the socialist and liberal leaderships that strongly support the Bankers and the Bankers’ states. The Nazis and fascists do their bidding (while pretending to be an opposition). The government in Kiev is the prime example of this pattern of Left Imperialists working with fascist imperialists, and all “working for the man” as we say in Brooklyn.
Syriza is not part of the solution, but part of the problem. Syriza are the latest mis-direction force
in Greece; unfortunately, there will be more. The Golden dawn is waiting in the wings.
But all is not dark. The Novorossian Militia, supported by the Russian people, have shown the way forward.
A people in arms, a people in motion, a people free of the imperialist chains. Do we need a verb?
The liberating road forward necessitates new leadership, with some new and some old ideas. There are no shortcuts.
You get what you wish for.
So wish well.
For the Democratic Republics!
Respect for Nations, Religions, Cultures, Ideas, all free of Oligarch Banker control.
Nationalize the banks, and, otherwise, let the people run their economies as they wish. The fewer rules the better. Only must not destroy the earth, or exploit other humans.
No passing down of chains of debts from generation to generation.
We Anarchists did quite well in Catalonia for two years. We have some answers. We are not afraid. Orwell’s “Homage to Catalonia” is recommended reading.
Hell! We can’t do worse than the US/NATO/Anglo/Zionists. They are destroying the world. We promise to rebuild.
IMAGINE
If we are to win the FINAL BATTLE and war, we must heed the words of Harold Wallace Rosenthal (former Zionist Slimeball, “done in” by the Mossad in their typical fashion), revealed in “The Hidden Tyranny” interview: “We will never defeated by words – only FORCE”. Like the Novorossians, we must defend our freedom and future with our blood. Thomas Jefferson said: “The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.” Hand-wringing and blogging just will NOT DO IT! Appeasement will NOT work, either! OCCUPYING Wall ST will also NOT DO IT!
Well then, what are you waiting for? Grab a gun and go soldier, go for it. Lead by example.
Although I have no idea who you want to fight against, since aliens only exist in your fantasy and there is no “final battle” coming either.
Let alone the fact that zionists you’re talking about are brits or british masonic puppets and no Jews to begin with.
One thing for you to think about – the meek will inherit the world, as Jesus said.
POA
Jesus was referring to the New Earth, after the Second Coming. All the Beatitudes are about being the children of God and inheriting His kingdom, not an earthly kingdom.
I won’t say the fewer rules the better because that let’s the wealthy and crooks off the hook; you need a strong and comprehensive government, but the key is that government must be run by the people — of, by, and for. That’s how you keep the psychos and greedy in check so they don’t use their money to bugger the system. You can’t allow an oligarchy or tyrants to develop, and that’s where truly democratic social anarchy comes in.
Not easy to implement, but the alternative is some kind of warlord system, state capitalism, fascism, or something else that grabs the money and power from the people.
Small government, active informed, well armed, citizenry.
Right to a job (where private enterprise – capitalism leaves off). No one need go without employment, or without a home.
Those refusing to work, of preferring life on the streets should be respected & helped where possible. Mentally ill must be helped, not abused.
Let the market rule – with the above – job right.
Banks – insurance – single payer medical coverage – through the gov’t.
Control of natural resources – vested in the people.
Militia, disarmed police, NO standing army.
Few rules, but not no rules. A Democratic Republic. Restore our Republic!
Read “Homage to Catalonia” – Orwell
No sectarianism. Respect for all.
Let the next generation put it all together & let us all vote on it.
IMAGINE
You know, while we’re quoting Jefferson:
The Redcoats didn’t even need to win the war. Just killing thousands of Americans, burning down the White House, and other thuggery was enough to make the US flip from refusing to recharter the 1st Bank of the US five months before the war to chartering the 2nd Bank of the US one year after the war.
Any leadership “pretending to be an opposition” is a flimsy facade. Chaining the economy to bankster money and sinking the people’s standard of living to slave conditions will be a dead giveaway – same with doing the opposite. However, if people lack the military, socioeconomic, and political fortitude to resist the banking cartel, then they will fall to the cartel. Simple as that.
All War Are Bankers’ Wars
The Leadership of SYRIZA are well informed about the situation. They also follow Mr Dimitris Kazakis and his writings since 2010 at least.
One of them Mr. Panagiotis Lafazanis knows Kazakis personally.
So!! IGNORANCE IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
Stathakis , Milios, Dragassakis and several other top decision makers have sold out and their motives are not noble for the sake of Greece.
They have invested in Hedge Fund Hyenas, like Blackrock (Mr Stathakis’ own admission)
ΕΠΑΜ or EPAM is a movement to inform the Greeks of any former ideological background to wake up about the current Catastrophic situation that Greece is in, as well as that of the Euro.
I myself run to cut off all banking payment to all Services apart from the Water Service, I shall not give those bastards one Drachma, let alone one Cent of a Euro.
I am positive that SYRIZA is just the last defence for the current Rotten STATUS QUO in Greece,
Most Greeks have had enough for the betrayal of the so called Allies in NATO, (That comes from me that used to be pro-American till 20th July 1974, when our “Ally” Turkey invaded Cyprus).
Now they want our land and our bodies, dead I may add.
I do not understand the Baltic countries and Poland what do they think they are going to get out of the NATO and The EU? seing Greece that fought faithfully and tenaciously for the West for over 100 years and treat us like whores.
Isn’t it really the elephant in the room – in this Greek case as in with many others – the ridiculous concept of debt repayment as being sacrosanct? Who came up with this?
Of course we know! It’s just a rhetorical question – but non the less; why close to no-one, and I do mean: no-one, from the bottom minimum wage earner and all the way up to the top; no-one is challenging this concept?
My reasoning might be simplistic but it is as follows; I don’t see loans as anything more than a bet. The lender lends some money to someone they judge will be able to repay plus yield some interests on top of it. You can collateralize all you want and create all sorts of fancy financial hocus-pocus to create assurances for the lender, but at the end of the day: it’s still a bet!
As Dr. Hudson says: “A debt that can’t be paid, won’t get paid,” hence; if you bet on something and lose, you lost the bet!
This is what happened in the so-called banking crisis at the end of 2007; a bunch of US banks handed-out mortgages like candy mints to people that weren’t able to repay, the housing-bubble burst and this, in turn; created a domino effect in the equally inflated derivatives market, triggering the ‘crisis’ everybody was hysterical about back then.
We can cut through the mumbo-jumbo just by simply saying: they placed a bet and lost.
They should have been allowed to go down and collapse (as-per the very foundation of true Capitalism: non-competitive businesses go down, making room for competitive and innovative businesses to flourish).
But noooo, their buddies in government had to intervene! Because *eye-roll* this would have irreparably damaged the “credibility” of the US financial system and more importantly: the US Dollar.
So, as we see in the above example, debt repayment is sacrosanct, only when it isn’t (!?).
It goes like this: (1) You’re bankrupt? Well… give us a pound of flesh (austerity, bail-ins, sequestering of pensions and savings, wholesale of national assets, etc.) before we hand you any cash.
Or (2) Oh! You’re bankrupt but you’re a bank? Here, let me print some cash for you (euphemistically called quantitative easing) and pay me back when you get back on your feet, or not, it doesn’t matter, we can always transfer the bill to the taxpayers.
Further… there are ‘sacrosanct’ debts and ‘un-sacrostanct’ (if you will :-) ) debts…
[via-Russia-Insider] Will the IMF try to stiff Russia for Ukraine Billions?
“US diplomats have been openly talking about how to try and prevent Moscow from collecting the $3 billion it is owed by Kiev”
“[..] It has stated that private-sector creditors must take a haircut, given that Kiev can’t pay the money its oligarchs have either stolen or spent on war.
But what of the €3 billion that Russia’s sovereign wealth fund loaned Ukraine, under London rules that prevent such haircuts?
Russia has complained that Ukraine’s budget makes no provision for payment. Will the IMF accept this budget as qualifying for a bailout, treating Russia as an odious creditor? If so, what kind of legal precedent would this set for sovereign debt negotiations in years to come?
International debt settlement rules were thrown into a turmoil last year when U.S. Judge Griesa gave a highly idiosyncratic interpretation of thepari passu clause with regard to Argentina’s sovereign debts. The clause states that all creditors must be treated equally [..]”
More at the link> http://russia-insider.com/en/ukraine/2015/02/16/3558
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So as we can see; debt repayment is an unavoidable “must,” but only… when it isn’t.
Who decides what’s the difference? Well… I’m sure you clever folks can figure it out.
Meanwhile, the whole thing is nothing else but a racket, a mafia style shake-out. Where the in-crowd has free access to zero, or near zero interest-rates credit, and everybody else has to pay a hefty premium for the same.
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-TL2Q
“Hands up, this is a debt!”
very interesting last edition of Fort Apache.
( I do not know if Mr. Mercouris understand Spanish but if not, maybe some friend can make a simultaneous translation ).
http://hispantv.com/showepisode/Fort-Apache/137Fort-Apache—Manos-arriba,-esto-es-una-deuda/137
*Boaventura da Sousa Santos:
*Manolo Monereo:
( ie lateral strategy; friend senior strategist: Where are you?)
Wednesday 11 March 2015
Greece sours German relations further with demand for war reparations
Alexis Tspiras, the Greek prime mininster, says Berlin has ‘a moral obligation’ to make amends for years of Nazi occupation
Saker
it is a pleasure to read in the comments of this post a partisan of EPAM and of the venerable Mr Kazakis in person.
The above mentioned ex leader of a quasi non existing party , keeper of all wisdoms and grand master of all sciences , first economist and strategist of the universe is THE example of nonsense verbosity as all the “fools of the village” we have in abundance here in Greece . It is really amusing for me to meet again with those “Hurray patriot” theories . ( Yes my saker , we have some of them in Greece ) …!
For the rest : Those negociations are very complicated a game for the majority of the Greek people to understand . Maybe too complicated even for the operators themselves to handle . The next few months will be decisive for Greece and for the Eurozone and after years of reading and thinking , most of alerted and knowfull people here cannot be sure that a Grexit in 2015 could be a longterm viable solution , the way it was in 2010 .
A reorientation of the geopolitical stance of Greece is also a dire question and if chosen , should be effected in a very cautious pace .
The Greek supporter of Novorussia you already kow
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