I Omar Ossama Binladin and my brothers the lawful children and heirs of the Ossama Binladin (OBL) have noted wide coverage of the news of the death of our father, but we are not convinced on the available evidence in the absence of dead body, photographs, and video evidence that our natural father is dead. Therefore, with this press statement, we seek such conclusive evidence to believe the stories published in relation to 2 May 2011 operation Geronimo as declared by the President of United States Barrack Hussein Obama in his speech that he authorized the said operation and killing of OBL and later confirmed his death.
If OBL has been killed in that operation as President of United States has claimed then we are just in questioning as per media reports that why an unarmed man was not arrested and tried in a court of law so that truth is revealed to the people of the world. If he has been summarily executed then, we question the propriety of such assassination where not only international law has been blatantly violated but USA has set a very different example whereby right to have a fair trial, and presumption of innocence until proven guilty by a court of law has been sacrificed on which western society is built and is standing when a trial of OBL was possible for any wrongdoing as that of Iraqi President Sadam Hussein and Serbian President Slobodan Miloševic’. We maintain that arbitrary killing is not a solution to political problems and crime’s adjudication as Justice must be seen to be done.
It is also unworthy of the special forces to shoot unarmed female family members of Binladen killing a female and that of one of his son.
Most importantly, when it is a common knowledge that OBL’s family is residing at one place outside KSA, why they were not contacted to receive his dead body. His sudden and un witnessed burial at sea has deprived the family of performing religious rights of a Muslim man.
Finally, now that the operation is concluded we wish the Government of Pakistan to release and hand over all minors of the family and all the family members are reunited at one place and are repatriated to their country of origin, especially female members of the family to avoid further oppression and we seek international support to that effect.
Without agreeing to the ways of OBL as to how he professed, believed and operated, We Omar Ossama Binladin, and my brothers, the lawful children of the Ossama Binladin (OBL) herewith demand an inquiry under UNO to reach to the accuracy of the facts as stated by United States into the fundamental question as to why our father was not arrested and tried but summarily executed without a court of law. We are putting these questions to the United Nations, OIC, President of United States that a necessary evidence is presented to the family in private and or public to make us believe what they claim, and all the remaining family members are repatriated and united after necessary initial investigation.
In making this statement, we want to remind the world that Omar Ossam Binladin, the fourth-born son of our father, always disagreed with our father regarding any violence and always sent messages to our father, that he must change his ways and that no civilians should be attacked under any circumstances. Despite the difficulty of publicly disagreeing with our father, he never hesitated to condemn any violent attacks made by anyone, and expressed sorrow for the victims of any and all attacks. As he condemned our father, we now condemn the president of the United States for ordering the execution of unarmed men and women.
Failure to answer these questions will force us to go to International forum for justice such as International Criminal Court and International Court of Justice and UN must take notice of the violation of international law and assist us to have answers for which we are lawful in seeking them. A panel of eminent British and international lawyers is being constituted and a necessary action may be taken if no answers are furnished within 30 days of this statement.
@jack: sorry Jack, but your latest comment was so stupid that I will not post it. Try a little harder next time, ok?
The Saker
With all ideological, criminal, and emotional considerations placed in context, this is a rational and reasonable statement.
OTOH, most people will fall back on ideological, criminal, and emotional considerations in evaluating it.
Wherever his spirit has gone, OBL can congratulate himself that he has brought the US down into the gutter. Well, it was always in the gutter but any facade of civilization has been thrown away and the face of the beast is bare for all to see. The US had an opportunity after 9/11 to show an example of humanity to the world and F’d it up big time (and that’s “F” as in “Failure” O ye with dirty minds ;-) )
Extra-judicial assassination — and that’s what it was –; throwing the body into the ocean etc; each is just a manifestation of state terrorism, even if the target is the worst terrorist. [In any case it is clear that killing him was more about protecting state secrets than sending a message; a live OBL in custody was too great a wild card to fathom].
Add to this the continual drone attacks on civilians, the slaughter of untold numbers of innocent children in Afghanistan by US helicopters in the name of the unholy and satanic principle that the live of soldiers in war are worth than those of civilians … Libyan bombings … Bahrain silence … etc … and you have — in this Empire — the world’s greatest terrorist.
Peace
@Ishamid:With all ideological, criminal, and emotional considerations placed in context, this is a rational and reasonable statement. OTOH, most people will fall back on ideological, criminal, and emotional considerations in evaluating it.
Exactly. Anybody reading this blog will not that I detest Wahabism probably more than any other ideology out there, and that I have no sympathy for OBL at all, but what his family is saying is nevertheless absolutely true. And shooting an unarmed, sick and non resisting man in front of his family is a barbaric act which really says it all about the killers and those who sent them.
Needless to say, getting him alive was never an option since OBL could have told the real story of 9/11 at least as much as himself knew it.
Milosevic was killed in his jail, Saddam was hanged for a single crime and neither of them were ever interrogated about their contacts and collaboration with the CIA. With OBL the risks were too high and he had to be killed immediately.
@VINEYARDSAKER:
How was it stupid?
It was a comical statement saying that Bin Ladin was probably dead for years and being used in videos of questionable authenticity to promote the war on terror just like Bernie in the movie.
Of course this is coming from someone who claims to be a Christian and an Orthodox one at that who states that despite there being an International Islamic insurgency movement around the world engaged in terrorism and conflict they have no connection to Islam despite being promoted, financed and recruited from Islamic countries, mosques, global organisations, billion businessmen, etc into a multi-billion dollar global terrorism-organised crime network in which their terrorist organisations and theology is based on Islamic doctrine.
“Bin Ladin was probably dead for years and being used in videos of questionable authenticity to promote the war on terror”
After I read that Iran is also claiming this (and I guess they have a good intelligence service), I think it is a likely hypothesis.
I am also convinced that Osama was killed in 2001.
He was a big threat for the War on Terror, as he had stated on Al Jazeera on 24 sept. 2001 that he was not involved in 911 and indeed disapproved of it.(1)
Suppose he would keep repeating this message !
For the War on Terror it was essential that he was dead, but perceived to be still a threat (= alive).
Probably he was killed by these thermobaric explosives. (2)
David Ray Griffin gave a lot of evidence that it was very probable that Osama was dead. (3)
So far I have not seen proof that Osama was alive in this house in Abbotabad. It could all be faked.
Even the young wife of Osama who joined up with him again and is now wounded in a hospital may be a ‘bought witness’. Remember the incubater witness before Congress.
I am very curious what D R Griffins comment will be.
(Due to circumstances I had very little time to reads the news. I may have missed some convincing proof. Please let me know if this is so.)
1)http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/10/gordon-duff-classified-cia-transcript-counters-bin-laden-terror-role/
(2) http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17194
(3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI5b3Ir012k
@Jan Verheul: thanks for the interesting comments and links. From what I understand there are THREE Bin Laden wives out there, right? I wonder what they will say. But it could be, of course, that his wives were living in Bilal near Abbotabad but that he was not. In which case God only knows whom the super-dooper DEVGRU SEAL Team 6 shot…
But there is also a daughter involved and she says her dad was killed in front of everybody.
It’s one thing to get a Kuwaiti diplomat’s daughter to lie after being carefully trained and under the careful gaze of her parents, and quite another to have one (or several) wives lying long after the Yanks have left, nevermind the daughter, don’t you think?
My gut feeling is that OBL was living there is a safehouse, protected by the Pakis and with unofficial “security guarantees” from the CIA (the CIA, by the way, has their own direct action units, yet the Navy was used; ever wonder why?). He lived their, getting his dialysis on a regular basis, and carefully cut-off from the rest of the world (the house had neither phone nor Internet). And the “Obama decided to off Osama” to improve his ratings (that worked) and because OBL had outlived his useful shelf-life. So they send in a few killers, dumped his body at sea (an autopsy would have shown both how he was killed and how sick he was) and with that the regime in Washington can hope to close the lid forever on the 9/11 inside job.
Just my take, my gut feeling, nothing more.
Cheers!
My gut feeling on this operation agrees with yours Saker…..and in regards to Hezbollah’s silence on this matter and others concerning US supported Gulf supported, Salafi terrorism, I also would like to know the logic behind it, as I would like to be convinced it is a logical decision and not ideological…
Thanks for the compliment, Saker.
Let’s try by way of reasoning what might be true and what might be false…
(And use as many hard facts as available on the way.)
Indeed, the Kuweit-girl had a clear goal for her lie to Congress: ‘please throw out Saddam and give me my country back.’
Osama’s daughter who said she saw him being murdered does not have such a clear self-interest, so she may be speaking the truth.
But so far we did not see her photo, nor hear her speaking. We do not know her name, nor have any corroboration about her existence from other siblings, if I am well informed.
In fact, the first news from the raid said that all people in the house were killed. And then a few days later came up the wounded wife, the daughter and another ten (young) people.
So far only one name: of the wounded wife.
How can the US invade a complete country in search of one man, and forget to closely watch his young wife and follow her to the hiding-place?
When I get to see a lengthy and detailed interview with the wounded young wife about life in the ‘hidingplace’ I may be convinced. I am waiting for that. Will it come?
If Osama was indeed living in the safehouse with knowledge of Pakistan ànd CIA, then all the accusations now, from Osama towards Pakistan are acted. And the Pakistani are acting their defense.
Political careers may be broken and yet no-one betrays the conspiracy…?
More probable would be: Osama was helped by sections from the Pakistan army, and nobody else was informed. But the CIA found out and killed Osama.
That could be.
But it would imply that these Osama-symphatisers, who rightfully hate the US and Israel ( for what these did and do to the arab world), had the enormous self-controle of hearing and seeing one fake Osama tape after another ( from SITE Intelligence) and seeing Bush re-elected thanks to these tapes, and NEVER go to the real Osama and have him make a real video to once and for all make an end to this huge betrayal of truth….. To this slowly destroying muslim dignity. Muslim selfrespect.
Imagine the real Osama in a lengthy interview with Alan Hart or Fisk or Pilger, explaining why he could not have done 911 (as he already said on 24 sept 2001)as it was destroying the arab world, and explaining that the terrorism he had done before had turned out to be counter-productive and that the only way to go was the Ghandi way and the Balanced Media Reports way.
Just before the American elections that kept Bush in power.
It would have changed the world.
All this was in the hands of a few Pakistani army-people.
But they did not do it, because it would be too dangerous for Osama?
Yet they allowed a wife and several children to enter the secret compound where every visitor was controlled by army men over and over again as we see on The Sakers Al Jazeera video of Jahangir Khan: http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2011/05/two-interesting-reports.html
Jahangir says, at minute 3: “to be honest: it is not true…. maybe some other people [live there] but Osama …. it is not like a bird who can fly inside, because this is a restricted area… when we came here from outside, all this army will say [= all the soldiers asked every time:] “hey, where is your ID card ?” So it is not believable….”
Getting wives and children in is a liability.
Making one world-changing video and smuggling it out is worth the risk a million times.
Saker,
I had a few comments here, but they were gone after the blogger-breakdown.
On my own blog I put Osama in a bigger context and give arguments why I believe he was dead for years. I wrote it all in English: http://xevolutie.blogspot.com/2011/05/140-osama.html
@Jan Verheul: very good article! I basically agree with almost all of what you said. I would just add that besides the US, Israeli or Pakistani government there are semi-independent players INSIDE these government structures which can act largely on their own, in particular if they are protected by a layer of secrecy. It is well known that secrecy tends to breed corruption and, in a similar manner, it breads “rogue agendas”. So rather than looking at “the Pakistanis” you could also make a thought experiment and think about “some high level Pakistanis of the ISI”.
In the USA for example, there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that 9/11 was an inside job, but I don’t think that all (or even most) of the government knew about it.
My 2cts.
Thanks for the great pointer, kind regards,
The Saker
The JFK assasination
The moon landings
9/11
Death of Osama
There are some interesting studies out there on why people insist on believing in a conspiracy when faced with momentous historical events – it’s a coping mechanism.
That aside, I believe they got Osama (why would the Taliban come out and confirm an American lie?) But I don’t believe for a second that they killed him. The intelligence value of an alive Osama in a secret CIA prison is much greater than a dead Osama in the ocean.
Ziggy,
also the official explanations for JFK and for 911 take a conspiracy (Russians and islamic men) as an explanation. Not only a conspiracy, also a miracle: the magic bullet (JFK) , and a building (WTC7) collapsing at the speed of free fall (911).
So the difference is not: do you need a conspiracy for your explanation, but: do you need a miracle for your explanation.
Ziggy, you are not so much better than most of us: you also do not believe the official story. Why do you want us to believe people that you do not believe yourself ?