I think it is a great idea to invite the EU culprits in for a visit and then arrest and prosecute them for encouraging terrorism. This award is a sham. It insults all Russian citizens. It is criminal in its intent to honor a terrorist.
Prosecuting the EU persons involved in this award is the proper thing to pursue. It is completely justified by their actions and words, all of which clearly violate Russian anti-terror criminal law.
Maybe their jury could consist of parents of the children from Beslan.
Or Spetsnaz survivors who rescued the children who weren’t killed.
They have a firm understanding of terrorism and would dutifully come to a just verdict.
(Thank you, Eugenia, for your marvelous work translating and sub-titling Ruslan’s soliloquy).
I would also like to see these EU vermin face justice in Russia but we know how the propaganda organs in the US and EU will be revved up to spin it. Probably better that Russia sanctions them to keep their diseased selves out.
@Larchmonter: Exactly ! At the very least put them up as persona non grata in if possible all of the Russian Federation, China etc. or even better on a wanted list as Terrorism-Supporters all around the globe ! Furthermore there should be a strong statement via the diplomatic channels regarding this.
And by the way – it’s ok if Russia continues to let Ukraine rot and fester at the hands of their Western Friends, but at a point in the future, in order to cripple the whole of Europe eradicate that festering cancer with a single blow and lure the NATO troops into a counter(that is important !) and destroy them, THAT would have a lasting effect. NATO never ever will be resolved from within without a very, very heavy blow from outside – no matter how rotten it is. The ratline it supports is much, much to large to that end.
The idiots provided Russia with the trap it needs to lure the Beast into for utter and total destruction, then NATO will fold IF Russia then threatens Poland and Rumania and the Baltics very hard at the same time, and put heavy pressure on Germany.
Another touching display of ”European values”. Dear Putin, please hand them Crimea now, will you. A Ukro Eurovision ”Song” Contest award and now the Sakharov Prize for ”Freedom of Thought” awarded to a Ukronazi should tell you something is very high up on their wish list.
Seriously, Russia should just unceremoniously drop some well-deserved nukes upon the Euro-trash.
Russia should finally abandon all attempts of reasoning with Kiev nazi gang and their western masters.
It is time to start activities to take all Novorussia from Ukraine. Waiting to Ukros get to their senses is useless. Their minds are poisoned and many are scared.
There is no point to push Minsk agenda any longer. Russia is supposed to take all lands given to Ukraine by lenin and to say good bye to the rest of today Ukraine.
There is just a different opinion of what constitutes terrorism. From a Western point of view, Moscow taking the Crimea was terrorism, and all those involved in that should be prosecuted. From a Russian point of view, people blowing things up or killing civilians are terrorists, no matter where they are.
It isn’t that hard to figure things out once you use the right dictionary. Terrorism is primarily anything that gets in the way of Western geopolitical domination.
No terrorism is western geopolitical domination
Just today the us bombed a market in deir el zorr killing at least 3 children. It also gazed people with banned white phosphorus in syria and bombed yemen and continued the torture of kidnapped men women and children in one of largest torture compound of the us in yemen
terrorism, noun, systematic intimidation as a method of governing or securing political or other ends.
Ergo, Moscow retaking the Crimea cannot in any manner be considered terrorism, but indiscriminate killing of civilians even in war situations, of which there has been no declared war at this time can only be considered as terrorism. As such the indiscriminate bombing of civilians in German industrial areas by the ‘Allies’ (British and American) must be considered as terrorism and ‘War Crimes’, which explains the loathing by many Germans of ‘Bomber Harris’ who was simply following Churchill’s orders.
Andrew, it may seem funny but Polish cinematography made a movie about the “murder of Dresden in 1945”.
The movie was made in 1961, and received some kind of award from the Soviet Union.
I haven’t watched this, but this is supposed to be french language version: https://www.streamfilms.fr/regarder-film-gratuit/dzis-w-nocy-umrze-miasto-1961/
Notice the positive twist on the fact “Rebuilt”, as if it was the West who had to rebuild it.
I visited Dresden in 1970, and it was a wonderfully rebuilt City.
The European Parliament should be damned to hell for many reasons, and its support of both its own and USA-sponsored terrorism is in its marrow, but I am also struck that none of the comments so far pays any attention to the particulars of the case and what Oleg Sentsov has and has not done. Perhaps to them it doesn’t matter in times of war and this stupid bastard deserves to rot in prison for public protest and dissent as a “loyal Ukrainian” whose land and citizenship have been stripped from him. But I’m old-fashioned enough to think that the head that the state severs and puts on the post best serves its function if it was at least once connected to the crimes alleged against it—and in this case Sentsov’s probably wasn’t. The results is a martyr for Western civilization that serves as a sharp reminder of the “freedom and democracy” enjoyed by citizens of such enlightened countries as the USA, Israel, and Europe.
It is difficult to find an account of the case not generated by Western intelligence propaganda mills and their media representatives, here, for example, Wikipedia, Meduza, and The Guardian. Of course, these sources embrace the truth whenever it happens to serve their interests, as I strongly suspect it does here. The charges against Sentsov were very likely exaggerated or trumped up if not entirely fabricated—the FBI does this routinely in political cases—and thereby created a political saint from whole cloth. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/jailed-ukrainian-film-maker-oleg-sentsov-wins-sakharov-prize The Russian Federation should be more discriminating in severing the right head for the demonstrably right reasons before putting it on the post. This serves the gods of both justice and propaganda.
Michael, you have not provided factual information, but you question other commenters for not addressing the facts.
Sentsov may be a sap, used, abused. Who cares about the victims in such a “transaction”?
We have seen the lineup of similars for years who are swept away to be used as “murder victims”, imprisoned protestors, abused resistors, etc. They are the saints of the Fifth Column and the West’s Intel services.
There is no severed head in this case. A prison sentence. Highly likely, Putin will truncate the prison term as he has for other scum in a gesture of Russian compassion.
A good use of a justice system is as deterrent. At the time of Sentsov’s transgression there were numerous attacks and plots (some from the Tartars, some from SBU, some backed by Turkey, some from other enemies of Russia) centered in Crimea. Sentsov in prison sends the brightest picture to other “plotters” that punishment awaits. A few other saps were eliminated by FSB in their attempts to bring harm to Crimea. Justice served in those cases and in Sentsov’s case.
He is a symbol. That’s not his Head on a post. That’s his ass in a cell. Big difference, but symbolic none the less.
I am sorry that you did not understand that “head on a post” is a metaphor for public terror meant to deter others. The three sources I cited summarize the facts of the case, which include allegations of torture by Sentsov to extract a confession for deeds that he before and after always denied, a recantation during the trial by the chief witness against him who stated that he was tortured to inculpate Sentsov, and the kind of principled painful defiant prolonged hunger-fasting that guilty-as-charged prisoners don’t often undertake. Of course a good use of the justice system is to deter others, but it works best doing that by convicting the demonstrably guilty rather than the (actually or likely) innocent; otherwise, it’s a lynching followed by a resurrection of a Fifth-column saint.
His major support comes from far away places and non-Russian persons.
We aren’t about to shed a tear.
Have you researched the war crimes against Donbass?
I haven’t seen your prior posts in behalf of the murdered and tortured women and children and civilians of Donbass. The same was intended for Crimea. And Sentsov is a man who stands with the war criminals and nazis. In fact, Porky and his friends in Kiev are always threatening the same for Crimea, including blow the Kerch Bridge, destroying the water supply, etc. All war crimes.
The Euros and the West think administrative borders created by Communists are “eternal” for all time. If that is the case then East Germany is illegal. West Germany should be considered a terrorist nation for taking over East Germany. NATO/US violated Communist administrative borders in Yugoslavia by taking away Kosovo from the Serbian Communist created borders. If the west keeps pushing the “eternal” borders for generations theme then the Soviet Union should be rejoined altogether again and Yugoslavia too. The Soviet Union and Yugoslavia made a huge mistake with the republics theme. Western wolves prowled at the borders when both governments were in trouble, demanding that the republic administrative borders are “eternal” borders for all generations. This “for all generations” theme is also found with US Zion fanatics who revive the worst aspects of the Old testament. It is called “no heg l’doros” ( for all generations). These theme is commonly used by the US and friends in all the wars in middle east and other places. Seven nations to destroy theme comes Deut. 7.1-2. is the main theme these days. Purim is also a big one. 2003 war on Iraq started on Purim. 2011 war on Libya started on Purim.
I think it is a great idea to invite the EU culprits in for a visit and then arrest and prosecute them for encouraging terrorism. This award is a sham. It insults all Russian citizens. It is criminal in its intent to honor a terrorist.
Prosecuting the EU persons involved in this award is the proper thing to pursue. It is completely justified by their actions and words, all of which clearly violate Russian anti-terror criminal law.
Maybe their jury could consist of parents of the children from Beslan.
Or Spetsnaz survivors who rescued the children who weren’t killed.
They have a firm understanding of terrorism and would dutifully come to a just verdict.
(Thank you, Eugenia, for your marvelous work translating and sub-titling Ruslan’s soliloquy).
I would also like to see these EU vermin face justice in Russia but we know how the propaganda organs in the US and EU will be revved up to spin it. Probably better that Russia sanctions them to keep their diseased selves out.
@Larchmonter: Exactly ! At the very least put them up as persona non grata in if possible all of the Russian Federation, China etc. or even better on a wanted list as Terrorism-Supporters all around the globe ! Furthermore there should be a strong statement via the diplomatic channels regarding this.
And by the way – it’s ok if Russia continues to let Ukraine rot and fester at the hands of their Western Friends, but at a point in the future, in order to cripple the whole of Europe eradicate that festering cancer with a single blow and lure the NATO troops into a counter(that is important !) and destroy them, THAT would have a lasting effect. NATO never ever will be resolved from within without a very, very heavy blow from outside – no matter how rotten it is. The ratline it supports is much, much to large to that end.
The idiots provided Russia with the trap it needs to lure the Beast into for utter and total destruction, then NATO will fold IF Russia then threatens Poland and Rumania and the Baltics very hard at the same time, and put heavy pressure on Germany.
Another touching display of ”European values”. Dear Putin, please hand them Crimea now, will you. A Ukro Eurovision ”Song” Contest award and now the Sakharov Prize for ”Freedom of Thought” awarded to a Ukronazi should tell you something is very high up on their wish list.
Seriously, Russia should just unceremoniously drop some well-deserved nukes upon the Euro-trash.
Russia should finally abandon all attempts of reasoning with Kiev nazi gang and their western masters.
It is time to start activities to take all Novorussia from Ukraine. Waiting to Ukros get to their senses is useless. Their minds are poisoned and many are scared.
There is no point to push Minsk agenda any longer. Russia is supposed to take all lands given to Ukraine by lenin and to say good bye to the rest of today Ukraine.
There is just a different opinion of what constitutes terrorism. From a Western point of view, Moscow taking the Crimea was terrorism, and all those involved in that should be prosecuted. From a Russian point of view, people blowing things up or killing civilians are terrorists, no matter where they are.
It isn’t that hard to figure things out once you use the right dictionary. Terrorism is primarily anything that gets in the way of Western geopolitical domination.
No terrorism is western geopolitical domination
Just today the us bombed a market in deir el zorr killing at least 3 children. It also gazed people with banned white phosphorus in syria and bombed yemen and continued the torture of kidnapped men women and children in one of largest torture compound of the us in yemen
From the Oxford Pocket Dictionary:
terrorism, noun, systematic intimidation as a method of governing or securing political or other ends.
Ergo, Moscow retaking the Crimea cannot in any manner be considered terrorism, but indiscriminate killing of civilians even in war situations, of which there has been no declared war at this time can only be considered as terrorism. As such the indiscriminate bombing of civilians in German industrial areas by the ‘Allies’ (British and American) must be considered as terrorism and ‘War Crimes’, which explains the loathing by many Germans of ‘Bomber Harris’ who was simply following Churchill’s orders.
Andrew, it may seem funny but Polish cinematography made a movie about the “murder of Dresden in 1945”.
The movie was made in 1961, and received some kind of award from the Soviet Union.
I haven’t watched this, but this is supposed to be french language version:
https://www.streamfilms.fr/regarder-film-gratuit/dzis-w-nocy-umrze-miasto-1961/
Another short one is “Dresden 1945 Das Ende”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph8lyPyPIhQ
More “BEAUTIFUL DRESDEN – BOMBED AND REBUILT”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry9Imm47Xus
Notice the positive twist on the fact “Rebuilt”, as if it was the West who had to rebuild it.
I visited Dresden in 1970, and it was a wonderfully rebuilt City.
Some very valid comments from Ruslan, but I doubt ‘partners’ supporting this ukro retard will be prosecuted by Russia. Sadly.
The European Parliament should be damned to hell for many reasons, and its support of both its own and USA-sponsored terrorism is in its marrow, but I am also struck that none of the comments so far pays any attention to the particulars of the case and what Oleg Sentsov has and has not done. Perhaps to them it doesn’t matter in times of war and this stupid bastard deserves to rot in prison for public protest and dissent as a “loyal Ukrainian” whose land and citizenship have been stripped from him. But I’m old-fashioned enough to think that the head that the state severs and puts on the post best serves its function if it was at least once connected to the crimes alleged against it—and in this case Sentsov’s probably wasn’t. The results is a martyr for Western civilization that serves as a sharp reminder of the “freedom and democracy” enjoyed by citizens of such enlightened countries as the USA, Israel, and Europe.
It is difficult to find an account of the case not generated by Western intelligence propaganda mills and their media representatives, here, for example, Wikipedia, Meduza, and The Guardian. Of course, these sources embrace the truth whenever it happens to serve their interests, as I strongly suspect it does here. The charges against Sentsov were very likely exaggerated or trumped up if not entirely fabricated—the FBI does this routinely in political cases—and thereby created a political saint from whole cloth. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/jailed-ukrainian-film-maker-oleg-sentsov-wins-sakharov-prize The Russian Federation should be more discriminating in severing the right head for the demonstrably right reasons before putting it on the post. This serves the gods of both justice and propaganda.
Michael, you have not provided factual information, but you question other commenters for not addressing the facts.
Sentsov may be a sap, used, abused. Who cares about the victims in such a “transaction”?
We have seen the lineup of similars for years who are swept away to be used as “murder victims”, imprisoned protestors, abused resistors, etc. They are the saints of the Fifth Column and the West’s Intel services.
There is no severed head in this case. A prison sentence. Highly likely, Putin will truncate the prison term as he has for other scum in a gesture of Russian compassion.
A good use of a justice system is as deterrent. At the time of Sentsov’s transgression there were numerous attacks and plots (some from the Tartars, some from SBU, some backed by Turkey, some from other enemies of Russia) centered in Crimea. Sentsov in prison sends the brightest picture to other “plotters” that punishment awaits. A few other saps were eliminated by FSB in their attempts to bring harm to Crimea. Justice served in those cases and in Sentsov’s case.
He is a symbol. That’s not his Head on a post. That’s his ass in a cell. Big difference, but symbolic none the less.
To Larchmonter445:
I am sorry that you did not understand that “head on a post” is a metaphor for public terror meant to deter others. The three sources I cited summarize the facts of the case, which include allegations of torture by Sentsov to extract a confession for deeds that he before and after always denied, a recantation during the trial by the chief witness against him who stated that he was tortured to inculpate Sentsov, and the kind of principled painful defiant prolonged hunger-fasting that guilty-as-charged prisoners don’t often undertake. Of course a good use of the justice system is to deter others, but it works best doing that by convicting the demonstrably guilty rather than the (actually or likely) innocent; otherwise, it’s a lynching followed by a resurrection of a Fifth-column saint.
Nothing exculpatory exists for this miscreant.
If you find something significant, let us know.
Meanwhile, he’s a useful fool.
His major support comes from far away places and non-Russian persons.
We aren’t about to shed a tear.
Have you researched the war crimes against Donbass?
I haven’t seen your prior posts in behalf of the murdered and tortured women and children and civilians of Donbass. The same was intended for Crimea. And Sentsov is a man who stands with the war criminals and nazis. In fact, Porky and his friends in Kiev are always threatening the same for Crimea, including blow the Kerch Bridge, destroying the water supply, etc. All war crimes.
You defend some really evil people.
That’s what really matters.
He’s fortunate the FSB didn’t liquidate him.
The Euros and the West think administrative borders created by Communists are “eternal” for all time. If that is the case then East Germany is illegal. West Germany should be considered a terrorist nation for taking over East Germany. NATO/US violated Communist administrative borders in Yugoslavia by taking away Kosovo from the Serbian Communist created borders. If the west keeps pushing the “eternal” borders for generations theme then the Soviet Union should be rejoined altogether again and Yugoslavia too. The Soviet Union and Yugoslavia made a huge mistake with the republics theme. Western wolves prowled at the borders when both governments were in trouble, demanding that the republic administrative borders are “eternal” borders for all generations. This “for all generations” theme is also found with US Zion fanatics who revive the worst aspects of the Old testament. It is called “no heg l’doros” ( for all generations). These theme is commonly used by the US and friends in all the wars in middle east and other places. Seven nations to destroy theme comes Deut. 7.1-2. is the main theme these days. Purim is also a big one. 2003 war on Iraq started on Purim. 2011 war on Libya started on Purim.