Dear friends,
Claude Roddier, the “Godmother” of the entire Saker Community has just returned from a trip to Russia were she participated in the Vday events in Moscow alongside a delegation representing the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation of France during WWII. Initially, Claude had planned to travel to Odessa and because of the risks associated with such a trip, we kept all these plans a secret. Then, after speaking to trusted friends in Moscow, she decided to cancel her trip to Odessa to my immense relief.
Claude and her daughter Mireille
[Sidebar: I refer to Claude as the “Godmother” of the Saker Community because she was the very first person to contact me and suggest that my blog be translated into French. Then, the example of the French Saker blog was followed in other countries and languages, but none of that would have happened without Claude’s suggestion. Claude also stood by me in some truly painful moments and her kindness and support were crucial in my decision not to abandon it all last winter. Honestly, there would be no Saker Community if not for Claude].
I am posting below three texts which are self-explanatory and which will relate to you the events surrounding this historical celebration. At a time when France is yet again under occupation, these testimonies are a beautiful illustration of the fact that, just as during WWII, there still is a French Resistance even if nowadays the mode of resistance is different, instead of shooting at occupying foreign forces the French Resistance today struggles against collaborationist ideas, against a regime which has so clearly abandoned France’s national interests, against an Imperial policy aimed at a maximal confrontation with Russia and which has the very real risk of resulting in another world war.
What is particularly beautiful about this trip is that is is yet another shining example of this “other West” which, far from being hostile to Russia, is her real friend and wants to stand by her in these difficult and dangerous times. To resist the current zombification and to dare defy the official ideology is also an act of great courage: not only was Claude already publicly listed by a pro-Ukronazi website as being a member of some nefarious pro-Putin blogger army, these are also the post Charlie-Hebo times in France when most people would be simply afraid to speak up and dare defy the plutocracy in power.
[Sidebar: while Claude decided to “go public” with her identity, my strictly personal advice to the members of our community is to hide their real identities, especially for Team Leaders]
I am immensely grateful to Claude whose kindness and wisdom have deeply changed my life and, I suspect the lives of many of us. I could not have wished for a better “Godmother”!
The Saker
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CLAUDE RODDIER:
When Lucien Pons (http://lucien-pons.over-blog.com/), the president of the Association CNR06 of Nice, called me on March 12 to tell me that our friends from Odessa were looking for descendants of members of the French Resistance, in order to invite them to the May 9th parade in Moscow, I did not dare to believe it. When he asked me if I could go, of course I immediately agreed. Each invitation being for two descendants, I proposed to participate with one of my children. Another group, the FTPF resistant, Lesou Serge and his daughter Sylvie were also invited.
In 1942, when he was 15 years old, Serge met a group of young “Résistants“ who joined others to form the “United Forces of patriotic youth” in Montargis. Later, he arrived Paris, where he was greeted by Colonel Baudoin, one of the commanders of the FTP networks in Paris. As a militant in the XXth, he took part to the liberation of Paris on a barricade at the corner between Menilmontant and Sorbier street. In Moscow, Serge held up a picture of Colonel Baudoin. His daughter Sylvie had the French flag together with a picture of young FTP fighters from the Var who were murdered by the Germans in 1944.
Born in Odessa in 1911, my father, Gleb Sivirine, arrived in France in 1919. He became part of the Resistance, first with his brother in a network of Marseille before becoming the head of the largest underground group of MUR (Mouvements Unis de la Résistance) in the Var, a group known as the Maquis Vallier (http://maquis-vallier.fr). I had a picture of him that matched our needs, the kind of picture that hundreds of thousands people marched with on May 9. I was planning to enlarge this picture, when I learned that François Hollande was about to become a shame on France. I then realized that this invitation would enable me to somehow save the honor. This is how, together with the French flag, on a picture showing also my father and one of the leaders of the Var Resistance, the General de Gaulle became part of the great march of Victory down the Tverskaya Avenue and through the Red Square, ending in front of the Basilica of St. Basil the Blessed.
Remembering those who gave their lives
We were allowed to show two pictures. For the second I wanted to honor also the memory of Résistants of the networks who lost their lives while being often forgotten. A name became obvious to my mind, that of Vicky Obolensky (http://www.lecourrierderussie.com/2012/06/sainte-genevieve-des-bois-insolite/) a Russian princess who arrived in France aged 9, has been a resistant since the first hour, and was guillotined in Berlin on August 1944. My daughter carried her picture.
From the start of the parade we had lost our group. The two of us found ourselves with two young participants of the “Immortal regiment”, Alik and Nikita, both from Odessa. Instead of quietly walking at the same pace as others, they had took a faster pace. Having no fixed point appointment we did not want to lose them. So we constantly outpaced the others. Hence we could see that other participants in the march were receiving our message as we hoped they would. Both of us have been thanked, photographed, filmed throughout the afternoon. Several times people have spoken longer with us, and had their picture taken with us. Most of the time, the language used was French, with that Russian accent which, of course, was not the “inimitable” accent of my grandmother although, listening well, yes, there was something of that accent.
What struck us most was the gravity of the participants. They look smiling on the pictures. One spontaneously smiles when photographed. In reality, they were serious, worried, determined. There was not the slightest aggressiveness in this huge crowd. Instead, it expressed a feeling of kindliness, although it was hard to understand how. There was virtually no police or security officers. Many young volunteers gave a note of gaiety. People came with their family, often with several pictures carried by the children, grandchildren or even great-grandchildren of those presented. Many photos showed women. Nikita, a young Odessite serving as our guide was proudly holding two photos: one of a grandfather from his mother, the other from a grandfather of his father. The message was clear “what my grandfather / great-grandfather did, I can do it.” I remember my parents talking about the summer of 1939 and the expectation of war, this war which the French did not want and was imposed on them. This is the same expectation that I felt in Moscow on May 9.
Failed trip to Odessa
Once our departure to Moscow confirmed and our visas obtained, I thought about extending our travel and stopping at Odessa. I saw this trip as a way to thank the members of the delegation of Leskova Irina, who came to Nice in January 2015, and to show them our support. Personally, it was an opportunity for a homecoming, a return to the house that my father and his family had left for two months, but had never seen again. The city having changed hands, their passports were no longer valid.
The hundred members of our delegation, guests of the “immortal regiment”, were housed in a beautiful hotel in Kosygina street, not far from the State University. Our little CNR06 group was the only French group. The other groups, such as the Polish, Spanish, and Italian ones, were larger than our. Reality and imagination merged when, after the parade, we met in the lounge of the hotel. In the books of the great Russian novelists, I had often read descriptions of meetings and discussions that lasted all night and had found them similarly depicted by Soviet dissidents in their accounts. A beautiful custom to which we were entitled. Among such an international crowd, English was mostly used with asides in the language of the members of the same delegation. We ended up chatting with the Poles met the day before, Alik and two ladies that I thought were russian.
Naturally I spoke to them about my imminent departure to Odessa, explaining the visit of the delegation to Nice and my will to show that we do not forget the massacre of May 2. I also added that my father was from Odessa. To their already warm attitude, complicity was added. Galina, one of the ladies, and Alik told us that they were Odessites and had just arrived in Moscow. A bottle of vodka appeared out of nowhere with a plate of appetizers prepared for us and we toasted to all those born in Odessa. They talked among themselves about the danger that we might run and came to the conclusion that the risks were minimal, the game was worth the candle.
For over a year I had heard about Ukrainians, “pro-Russian” separatists, Odessites that were for or against the current government of Kiev, but anyway Ukrainians, and now I had two people in front of me, a journalist and a police colonel, both proud to be born in Odessa, both in a certainly difficult personal situation in Moscow, who were considering themselves as Russian. They were not pro-Russian. They were Russian. I thought about Marseille, the city where my family settled on its arrival in France; even if politicians succeed in creating a separate Occitan entity, from Aquitaine to Nice, Marseille will still continue to feel French, 25 years after its creation. Galina told us things so passionately that Sylvie filmed her while Monika, a Polish-French, was translating. Several bottles of vodka came one after the other. In short, we were in Moscow as one imagines.
The next day our discussion resumed regarding our trip to Odessa. An Italian woman had been added to the group. More reluctant, she found unreasonable to take a risk. She told us about the arrest, followed by deportation on May 1, of Franco Fracassi, an italian journalist whose writings had displeased the regime. He was traveling to Odessa for the commemoration of the tragedy of May 2, 2014. She testified that journalists, Russian or Ukrainian as well as foreign, faced arrest, or even could disappear. Then Alik told us he had also been under arrest for his writings. He managed to get by and had just finally arrived in Moscow for an indefinite time.
Someone said “they do not risk anything, they are not journalists, their names do not appear on red lists”. However though, as a participant in the Francophone Saker blog, I had the honor, moreover as a member of CNR06, to appear on the infamous “list” (http://lesbrindherbes.org/2015/03 / 19 / call-a-la-delation-of-site-pro-Russian /) last March. I even got a special treatment on the list, with a mini-biography mainly describing my work as an astronomer with my husband. The account of this story changed the tone of our new friends. No more questions about going to Odessa. We changed our tickets and went back directly to Nice.
Back home was a message from Irina, the head of the delegation that came to Nice. Currently in the United States she is attempting to learn the truth about last year events. The message was waiting for me on my computer:
“Dear Claude! Ivan will meet you in airport with your name table, do not worry. How are you? I.”
On May 2, 2016, if no disaster occurs by then, we will meet again Irina, Ivan and especially Elena who lost her son on May 2, 2014.
Claude Roddier-Sivirine
Moscow, May 9th 2015
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SYLVIE PILLE:
In February 2015, Hollande travels to Saudi Arabia to pay tribute to King Abdullah: Saudi Arabia, which condemned to flogging a blogger Raef Badawi, who campaigned for a moral liberalization of his country. Saudi Arabia, which refuses to grant basic freedoms to half of its population – women- and where religious police can practice or force-on excision and infibulation on adulteresses and prostitutes. Saudi Arabia which condemns homosexuals to death.
In May 2015, Hollande goes to Qatar: Qatar, a country which practices kafala (1) a form of forced labor or slavery, according to Human Rights Watch. A country where freedom of expression does not exist, as evidenced by the life sentence of the poet Mohammed Al-Ajami, aka Ibn al-Dhib, arrested in November 2011 for a poem (“poem Jasmin”) criticizing power and defending the revolutions of the “Arab Spring”, a sentence reduced to 15 years’ imprisonment in 2013. A country, some were moved of it, where the mortality rate in preparation for the world football cup was found unusually high.
No matter the rights ….
On January 27, 2015, Holland goes to Auschwitz Birkenau for the celebration of the 70 years of the camp liberation. But, although the camp was liberated by the Soviet army, he is not annoyed that the Russian president was not invited by Poland.
On May 9, 2015 Holland does not go to Russia for the commemoration of the victory over Nazism, under the pretext of …. But what excuse can we offer to the Russian people? The Soviet Union bore the brunt of the war effort, the Soviet people paid the price of it: more than 25 million deaths. The fact that the US has delayed the landing as much as possible, in the hope that the Nazis would crush the USSR, did not prevent Holland to celebrate with great pomp the anniversary of the landing (2) – a landing that de Gaulle did not celebrate – a participation to a true revisionist operation of the history of the 2nd World War. It means bending slavishly to a communication operation which legitimizes the current hegemony of the United States over Europe and France – with the European Union and NATO in between.
On May 9, 2015, holding their three color flags, 4 French people – Serge Lesou and her daughter Sylvie Pillé, Claude Roddier and her daughter Mireille – who or whose relatives were involved in the struggle against Nazism, acknowledge the invitation of the “Eternal Regiment” via the « nouveau CNR, an association of the Alpes Maritimes.
These invitations came after meetings with a delegation of Ukrainians who came in January 2015, to bear witness of the assassination of militants by fascists in the house of the Unions of Odessa, on May 2, 2014.
More than 25 million deaths! How many Russian families affected? Today, these events remain engraved in the collective memory. For proof, one has just to look at the gravity with which the combatants grant children or great grand children were participating to the ceremonies. Above all, it suffices to attend this huge mobilization, with young people, hundreds of volunteers, supervising the parade.
But beyond the commemoration, it is the aspiration for peace that was claimed, that showed up in every conversation we had: MIR! Druzhba!
Hence we went on, with our pictures, parading with thousands of participants, some of them coming from the most remote regions of Russia. We met Ouzbecks, Kyrgyz, having all participated to the fight against the Nazis, whose dean was 101 years old. But also people from Spain, Italy, Poland, Ukraine (most of them refugees in Russia, because of the fascist danger that threatens them in their country) …
What a thrill that being mixed together with all these people, serious, aware of the threats posed by the United States on peace, all these people united by the same desire to fight against the resurgence of the extreme right, of fascism and neo-Nazism all over Europe and particularly Ukraine.
Everywhere, the sight of French flags, raised the same warm reactions, “thank you for being here.”
Hopefully, in the mind of these Russians, all four of us have helped cleaning the honor of France.
(1) Kafala: a system that governs the lives of all the foreigners working in Qatar. It requires them being “mentored” by a Qatari, without whom authorization they can neither change jobs, get a driver’s license, rent a house, open a bank account or, especially, leave the country.
(2) By their landing, the US aimed more at occupying France rather than freeing it. They had trumped up a program called AMGOT (Allied Military Government of Occupied Territories) and created an American franc, denounced by de Gaulle as counterfeit money.
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LUCIEN PONS
Presence in Moscow of a delegation of the association “Committee for a New Resistance-CNR” for the 70th anniversary of the victory.
We live in a very dangerous period. But the French, under-informed, are not aware of it.
The cannon thunders in the east of Europe. NATO countries are gradually drawn into a war against Russia. France has always had excellent relations with That country. General de Gaulle even said that he wanted to build Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals.
The association “Committee for a New Resistance” supports the full exercise of our national sovereignty. Its purpose is inspired by the ideals and achievements of the National Council of Resistance created by Jean Moulin on May 27th, 1943 in Paris. True to the ideals of the Resistance, faithful to the words and actions of the leader of the France Libre, General de Gaulle, we refuse to submit to the submission to the policy of the United-States, we want the policy of France to fall in with friendly relations with Russia for a fair balance in Europe and in the world.
The voice of France must serve negotiation and dialogue, not confrontation.
We also believe that we must express to Russia the gratitude due to it, following its essential contribution to the defeat of Nazism. You must remember that this country allowed the destruction of the brown plague in Europe by sacrificing over 25 million Soviets in this merciless war.
Our association has been investigating since September 2014 on the rise of fascism and the war in Ukraine. Our goal is to inform our citizens on other aspects of the conflict.
We hosted on January 29th in Nice a delegation of Ukrainians from Odessa. These people explained to us the ongoing conflict and they also testified about the massacre of May 2nd 2014. On that day more than forty people died, burned alive in the Trade-Unions house. One person of the delegation lost, in these dramatic circumstances, his 27 years son brutally finished off by barbarians after trying to escape the flames by jumping out the window.
Following this meeting we were invited by the leaders of the demonstration on May 9th in Moscow to attend the parade for the 70th anniversary of the victory over Nazism. The Delegation of the “Committee for a New Resistance-CNR”, an association composed of Resistants and children of Resistants, has acquired an important symbolic value.
Here are the four members of our delegation:
– Serge Lesou, resistant FTP and his daughter Sylvie Pillé.
– Claude Roddier, daughter of the commander of a “maquis” MUR of the Var, the maquis Vallier, and her daughter.
A conference to report on the official participation of our association in this event will
Take place in Nice, on Tuesday, June 9th, 2015. The members of the delegation will provide information about it. This will be an opportunity to continue our work for peace in Ukraine and Europe.
Lucien PONS President of the association “Committee for a New strength-CNR
Really appreciate these write-ups, guys. Your actions and words have a positive effect probably far more than you might think.
Danke Claude
The truth about the “Résistance” includes things not told in official France … because they’re not pretty to tell, not at all … but they can be found in Vincent Reynouard’s book about Oradour, Le Massacre d’Oradour. Un demi-siècle de mise en scène. Unfortunately, the book had to be banned in France, and the author had to be sentenced to prison. Massacre d’Algérie anyone? Ah, la grandeur!
The acts perpetrated at that village presaged the Odessa massacre–which essentially copied it. I’d imagine most French know about their village, but few know the parallel at Odessa. I wonder what de Gaulle would think of Hollande’s behavior–perhaps he’s illiterate as to his country’s history. It appears given your comment and Wiki’s page on Reynouard, Lumi, that you’re an apologist for Naziism.
Not entirety fair to accuse him of being an apologist for Nazism! Partisan movements have always sheltered among the civilians they claim they fight for. After Reinhard Heydrich’s murder, the assassins hid in Lidice rather than protect the civilians from reprisals by avoiding the town. With Oradour, the resistance chose to store weapons in the church rather than a less convenient, uninhabited location. Of course if there is an all-out war on women and children, resistance is certainly excused from these discrepancies, exhibited by Donvass. However the children of Oradour were left in peace by their occupiers until the Resistance, in essence, tripped the lever of the guillotine and released the blade.
Except the killers of the “Hangman of Prague” Heydrich, didn’t hide out in Lidice.That was a false claim by the nazis.The nazis suspected that Lidice had harbored local resistance people in the past.And accused them of harboring those men as well.They then made an example to terrorize the rest of Bohemia into obedience.
With Oradour, the resistance chose to store weapons in the church rather than a less convenient, uninhabited location.
Sorry,
But in the the village of “Oradour ” the “résistance” no detain weapons locted in the Church…
Becanot detain
So what are you, an apologist for democracy = Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Hamburg and other massacres, absolutely dwarfing any crimes (real ones, not hoaxes) committed by Germany? The abject hypocrisy of the “Western” (= Anglozionist) mind somehow manages to delude itself into thinking of itself as somehow noble, righteous, just, fair … when in fact, the crimes committed by Western Democracy against not only Germany and Japan, but many other countries such as Korea, Vietnam, India, Algeria, are an order of magnitude above anything Germany managed to perpetrate. The democratic nuclear holocaust (and here, the word applies) against Hiroshima was such huge fun for the democrats that they repeated it only three days later on Nagasaki. These democrats were so sad this fun war had ended they had to immediately start trouble in Korea, and then Vietnam, which were democratically napalmed, agent oranged, and quite generally bombed the hell out of. They slagged down a bit in the 80ies, preferring to pit Iran against Iraq, and making lots of money from it. But then in the 90ies, democracy is back in Iraq to bomb them back to the Stone Age, systematically destroying their water facilities in order for national health to break down, because the plutionium dust from DU ammu alone wasn’t doing enough of a kill job.
And then Democracy gets rolling, right over Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq again, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, just to name the major ones.
And what are our noble democrats doing about it? Right … exactly nothing. Oh, wait … their lips are moving … What is it they’re saying? … Can you believe it? They’re still talking about how bad fascism is.
You got to be kidding, my friend.
Yes, there’s a lot of bad things that can be said about the Third Reich, and they should not be swept under the rug. But in the presence of such mind-boggling democratic hypocrisy and double standards, I’m absolutely and 100 % unwilling to refrain from pointing out what’s wrong with the self-complacent and self-serving democratic propaganda about, for example, “la Résistance”, whose acts in 1944 would, by any standards, qualify as terrorist atrocities, and be met with fierce reprisal by any occupation army, whether it be German, English, American, Russian, or what have you. And it could have been much harsher than what “evil Nazis” did.
Case in point, on 8 May, 1945, the people of Algeria felt there was Freedom in the Air … and they tried to peacefully express their desire to free their nation from French occupation. Oh, what a misunderstanding … Freedom, unfortunately, did not apply to these “bougnoules” … And the French made that very clear to them. Now you look it up what they did. It was much worse than what “evil Nazis” did in France.
In fact, the conduct of German soldiers in France was very good. American soldiers, when they invaded France, were informed of that fact, and were exhorted to behave accordingly … a pious wish by their superiors that the men on the ground showed unable or unwilling to live up to.
The legal situation wrt “la Résistance” is clear. France had declared war on Germany, then lost that war, then had to agree to an armistice. “La Résistance” violated that armistice. They also violated the Hague convention by not wearing uniforms, by being indistinguishable from the civilian population, which is a nightmare for any occupation army. And they also violated the Geneva convention by murdering prisoners. They violated other things as well, which are too disgusting to describe here.
It has to be said that the illegal combattants found in Oradour were by no means only French. It was rather a kind of international “communist” brigade. And these people were not at all the same as honest French patriots. Read about the atrocities they committed before taking their party. What caused the explosives in the church, where “la Résistance” had their arms cache, to go off is unknown (as far as I know). Certainly not the SS. Rather, the SS rescued survivors from the burning church. Witness statements can be found in Reynouard’s book.
As for Heydrich (which Uncle Bob mentions below), he was murdered by Czech terrorists airlifted into Bohemia by MI6 (Operation Anthropoid). The resulting reprisal was a crime, no question. German authorities reacted exactly as the Brits had hoped they would. Terrorism has been one of Albion’s (and Uncle Sam’s) favourite tools for a long time.
Great people.I am happy they are on the side of justice and right.To add to the disgrace of Hollande’s journey to Saudi Arabia is word that their bloody regime intends to execute the Shia religious leader there Sheikh al-Nimr ,”Al-Nimr was not just condemned to death, he was sentenced to be beheaded, then crucified in a public square; his body to be paraded before all, as one would do a hunting trophy”. His murder is expected to provoke a mass uprising of the Shia population.
http://rt.com/op-edge/260133-sheikh-al-nimr-execution-saudi/
I have a question that maybe some of our French readers can answer for me? One little known fact about the resistance movements in WW2 Europe was the giant part the Communist parties in those countries played in them.In some of them their part was totally dominant.Beyond question in France and Italy they had a huge roll.In Greece and Yugoslavia,they were dominant.In all the others they also had a large or dominant part.Post-war Western Europe, in France and Italy we also saw large Communist parties active in politics there.With again France and Italy in particular,having the largest.Now with the rise of fascism coming again in Ukraine.With the out and out anti-Communism shown by the junta.Including the actual banning of the party there,and imprisonment of pro-Communist activists.Yet we don’t see the European Communist parties in their countries outraged and demanding their regimes not support fascism.Why is it that parties that could turn out thousands for labor disputes, can’t or won’t, rally to stop fascism from rearing its ugly head again.Surely they must realize that the victory of fascism in Ukraine would mean they themselves could/would be next.
The communist party is legal, but it is becoming marginal in France. Since the beginning of the war in Ukraine, French Communist Party had stood in favor of the Donbass resistance, but it has not a loud voice (around 10% in the elections, but only with the help of the Mélenchon’s Front de Gauche, an alliance of leftist parties. Alone, it is around 2%, but with a large and motivated militant base.). I have a friend whom is a militant (I am not), who told me that they are (militants of the French Communist Party) in contact with their comrades in Ukraine, and he said to me that since the beginning of the Maïdan coup, communists in Ukraine has been forced to go underground.
For now, there is no reasons nor propositions to forbid communist party in France. They are not very dangerous for the “system”. Mélenchon is far more dangerous, and on him are focused most of the critics. One can say that, yes, if Mélenchon is considered as the heir of what was the communist party in France, he has speak (and continues to speak) loudly against Maïdan’s fascists and in favour of Donbass resistance.
Because I am here, I have to said that I have been a bit chocked to read the Saker writing some things in favor of the Front National. There is absolutely nothing good to wait from this party, that I call “Front Familial”. It’s a far right party, which only wants money (JM Le Pen is reputed for his greed, and his political movement has made him a rich man), which is politically closer to Maïdan than Donbass. They have said some things in favour of the Donbass people only to polish their image as an “antisystem” party, and to get some votes (and some money by the way). But they have said the contrary in other occasions. Keep in mind that the Front National is also a mean to keep people away from “antisystem” movements, because they often stand for them, and is (indeed) a fascist movement. A good way to discourage good people to endorse some non conventionnal ideas is that a known fascist party is also endorsing them… This is true about what is happening in Donbass, but also on others subjects.
If the Saker wants some sincere supports, he will not find it in the Front National. This party is a decoy which is rotting french political debate. And to support Front National is a way to turn away good french people from his blog. And a good way to attract some bad ones (like this awfull Lumy above… this comment is so digusting… and I really don’t know why Lumy has posted it there… this has nothing to do with the subject, except to spit on French Resistance and excusing Das Reich SS division.)
Sorry for my globish…
Nice pile of rubbish you just wrote there SlipEnTitane aka Titanium Briefs for those who don’t understand french.
As you said you can be sorry indeed for your globbish…shall we say verbal diarrhea.
Your diatribe against the Front National is nothing more than whatever is staining the bottom of your titanium briefs at the moment.
Votre texte est un ramassis de tous les fonds de poubelles des salons parisiens d’intellectuels de gauche prétentieux comme on n’en trouve qu’à Paris ou dans les textes des journalistes presstituées de Libération, du Monde, du Parisien ou de la radio et télévision française.
Saker a raison d’avoir un minimum de sympathie pour Marine Le Pen. In the present context, she is the leader of the only party whose political platform calls for resistance to the policies advocated by Washington and its minions, GB, Germany and the Brussel Commission. Actually the actual french government looks more and more like Vichy with François Hollande in the role of Maréchal Pétain.
Mieux que quiconque, MP incarne la République. Et plus de 25% des français lui donnent raison. .
It is very likely that Marine LePen will be the next president of France, ne vous en déplaise SlipEnTitane. As she said once: I’m neither from the left, nor from the right, I’m from France. And the french people understands this.
So The Saker may be right on this.
Thank you.I appreciate your reply.I think in the case of the Front National.That many see them in the setting of “the enemy of my enemy…….”.In Russia we even see the Communists siding with Putin,and sharing a stage with the LDP over the Ukraine issue.Strange bedfellows,but sometimes the times call for that.
Uncle Bob 1
Yet we don’t see the European Communist parties in their countries outraged and demanding their regimes not support fascism.Why is it that parties that could turn out thousands for labor disputes, can’t or won’t, rally to stop fascism from rearing its ugly head again.
The leadership of these parties has been coopted, essentially. Look at Hollande, for example, a supposed “socialist”. He’s about as socialist as George Bush.
True for Hollande.I think the “Socialists” in many European countries because subverted after 1989 (in some cases even before).They took the bribes given out by the Empire.
Neoconservatism – Where Trotsky meets Stalin and Hitler
By Srdja Trifkovic
https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/neoconservatism-where-trotsky-meets-stalin-and-hitler/
All the leftists are no more, or at least only by name. Currently they are more Atlantists than the right wing and the Far Right (Le Pen), Their newspapers and magazines are either own by the Rothschilds or by Rupert Murdoch. Le Nouvel Observateur became the loudest mouthpiece of the Zionist Empire, I would say the same thing about Le Monde. The Communists and the Socialists are now the biggest Europeists, Europeists are 100% Atlantists read NATOists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lib%C3%A9ration#.C3.89douard_de_Rothschild.27s_involvement
You have a point. Le Monde was an excellent paper in the 1970s and early 1980s. Now I never read it. I heard the Rothschilds bought a part of Liberation and was disgusted.
The fate of the left in Europe is sad. From north to south it seems to be controlled by the elite. The leaders of the French socialist movement of 1968 moved to Frankfurt, Germany, och they love big brother Brusselles. Barroso started as an extreme leftist and so did Joschka Fischer in Germany. Look at them now! Strauss Kahn, Hollande and Segolene Royal are the sort of leaders the left produces nowadays. In Sweden, the social democrats attacked the pension system and they serve big banks. What has become of British Labour? The party gave us Tony Blair, who contributed to bombing former Yugoslavia to pieces. Oscar la Fontaine in Germany was so fed up with the socialdemocrats that he helped start Die Linke.
What does the left talk about nowadays? Modern feminism, not the old kind in which there was some light, extreme environmentalism och so many sexual groups I cant count them.
When my father was young, the Swedish socialdemocrats had a vision of “folkhemmet” (Volksheim, peoples homeland) and it was sound, peaceful and peoplefriendly, not like the extreme German version or the present extreme US version. In my youth, they honoured work and the workers and built up the country. Christianity was still honoured. Today they administer the decay and take orders from Brusselles and Washington.
Well, what to expect? Our conservatives have become liberals (in the European sense of the word). Our Christian party has given up its former ideals. Our liberals want more surveillance, which for them was a no-no 30 years ago. The ideologies are dead. Those who try to shake fascism into life in Ukraine will fail.
I think it was an Indian historian/economist, who said he could see four stages in all past civilizations. When there is chaos, a strong man appears and creates order. After a while, he is outsmarted by the intellectuals, priests for example (the enlightenment in the 18th century is another example). They in turn are corrupted by the capitalists and start loving money. Chaos returns and a new strong man appears. If the theory is correct, king-like leaders or emperors are about to come back in our time. Vladimir Putin did save his country from chaos as Charles de Gaulle saved France. We in western Europe need men like them, but I dont see them yet..
Correct, it was an Indian author and the book was called ‘Human Society’ but for the life of me, I can’t trace the author or the book. As I recall, he used the allegory of the rat/pig (accummulator) replaced by the wolf (militant/authoritarian)whose power is eroded by the monkey (liberal press) allowing the rat/pig to re-emerge in a perpetuating cycle of revolution and counterrevolution. If anyone can name the author, I would very much appreciate it as I would like to write my thesis on how a simple Islamic device called Zakaah, properly understood and implemented, can stop this vicious cycle through asset taxation (under the threat of nationalization)! The only way to neutralize the oligarchs!!!
Dear Claude, Sylvie and Lucien,
Thank you so much for going to Moscow and sharing your time and thoughts with us here. It is much appreciated. It is good to hear of other people from other European countries coming together for such a special occasion.
We must never forget.
Rgds,
Veritas
French presidential candidate François Asselineau and his delegation visited Crimea during the Vday, he also did not hide his disgust with the French government failing to attend the great day in Russia. François Asselineau is a sworn anti-Altantist whose primary goal is for France to gain back her sovereignty by getting out of the EU and the Euro which he proves beyond any doubt that it is an American project since 1956. Obviously he’s sabotaged by the mainstream media and even French Wikipedia keeps deleting articles about him and his political party.
His long conferences are very fascinating even for non-French people.
http://www.upr.fr/actualite/nombreuses-repercussions-mediatiques-en-russie-de-la-visite-officielle-de-la-delegation-de-lupr-en-crimee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Asselineau
Inspiring women
Vicki (Vera Apollonovna) Obolensky, nee Makarova, was indeed a beauty in addition to being “une héroïne de la résistance française”.
Great name Obolensky.
Two names stand out in my esteem.
Sir Dimitri Dimitrievich Obolensky, the distinguished academic, Professor of Russian and Balkan History at the University of Oxford, whose seminal book “The Byzantine commonwealth (1971)”, has not yet been surpassed. He was the son of Dimitri Alexandrovich Obolensky (1882–1964), the stereotypical “Russian emigre” who after the revolution became a night watchman and a taxi driver in Paris.
Prince Alexis Obolensky (1915–1986) `Mr. Backgammon’, playboy, US intelligence officer and professional gambler, the “father of modern backgammon”. Co-founder of the International Backgammon Association, he is credited with having invented the first systematic method of teaching the game. He wrote a manual in association with Ted James. He died as president of the World Backgammon Club.
That was one of the best overviews of the Eastern Roman Empire.And countries in its orbit I have ever read (and one of the first I read).
so, what is your point, Lumi?
That the western, american brutals surpassed their german, nazi predecessors in violence, terror, crimes against humanity in ALL aspects adding Time+intensity+geographical spreading +deliberate planning an exercise of crude power over the victims?
Yes, I agree: they been doing it on purpose for 70 years whereas the nazis lasted only 12 and had no time… to pursue further on.
I HAVE no information on the resistance being expert on ‘decimation’ techiques and further have never found an info about the uniforms of the CIA bandits on any of the dozen areas of the world they have been operating. starting from Gladio to those of macedonia today.
My points are numerous; some of them can be gleaned from my post above. Not sure what’s unclear about it.
Also unsure why you’re seeing “the nazis” as “predecessors” of Anglozionism? Yes, Hitler was brought to power by Anglozionism (against the Soviet Union), but then he refused to march to their tune. He (his advisors) knew some better tunes for Germany.
The Anglozionist strategic objective was to destroy both Germany and Russia as autonomous power centers. (And a part of the French elite shared the first objective.) The method to destroy them was to have them clash – simple and elegant. Germany was to be their geopolitical hammer against Russia.
This didn’t work directly, so they conspired in Moscow (from April to August 1939) with Stalin to destroy Germany (triple alliance talks). Didn’t work either because they were expecting the Soviet Union to do all the fighting and dying, to which uncle Joe understandably couldn’t agree.
They finally succeeded in their strategic objective wrt Germany only because Stalin, who thought he could outsmart everyone else, tried to exploit Germany’s difficult situation, difficult both strategically (already at war, unable to make peace with Britain) and geostrategically (dependent on ore from Sweden and, crucially, oil from Romania).
The horrible war with the Soviet Union is overwhelmingly Stalin’s fault, who, eager to outsmart the Anglozionists in their ruthless power game, arrogantly and catastrophically miscalculated, drowning both the German and the Russian people in blood.
This is the truth about the origin of the Great Patriotic War – even if President Putin, understandably, cannot admit it. Certainly not now. By force of raison d’État. Mais l’État, ce n’est pas moi – as a free individual, I can say what I want.
For pragmatic reasons, in the current situation, however, this Russian raison d’État should be respected.
Thanks for sharing.
I needed a good laugh today.
Bye Bye
History is written down by the victors (and they usually lie – big time). What is wrong with revisting the past and investigated it? What is wrong with revision? In science, scientists always repeat and revisit prior theories and experiments and this is how Mankind comes to a more accurate understanding of the the natural world. Why cannot people do the same with History?
The apportioning of guilt for the war is a tricky endeavor. It generally disregards the larger historical context. The truth is that WWII was the continuation of WWI. Especially on the Eastern Front, it was a resumption of hostilities interrupted by the Revolutions in Russia and Germany and a period of what looks rather like a prolonged armistice.
Some excerpts from a remarkable book by John Wheeler-Bennett, Brest-Litovsk, The Forgotten Peace, March 1918, written in 1938, would give us a clearer picture.
“The Old Bolsheviks, believing that the principles of Lenin and the ideals of November Revolution had been betrayed by Stalin, and convinced that the U.S.S.R. could not resist an attack by both Germany and Japan, appear to have reverted to the pre-revolutionary strategy of sabotage and subversion in order to overthrow the Stalinist regime, and to the Leninist policy of defeatism and national immolation in order to placate for the moment the aggressive policies of the two Imperialist-Fascist Powers.
The crimes of which they were accused, and to which they pleaded guilty, were none other than those very principles of destruction and disintegration on which Lenin based his fight against the Liberal Government of Prince Lvov and
the Socialist regime of Kerensky, while the policy of defeatism was exactly that followed by him in regard to Brest-Litovsk.
This latter doctrine had been established by Lenin again and again. ” It is impossible to attain this end [the Revolution] without wishing for the defeat of one’s own government and without working for such a defeat “, he wrote in Against the Current ; and, again, he warned American workers that ” he is no Socialist who will not sacrifice his fatherland for the triumph of the Social Revolution “. Nor was he content merely to preach the doctrine. Against
the bitter opposition of the Left Communists, particularly Bukharin and Radek, within his own party, he pursued just this same policy in regard to Brest-Litovsk.
What then would be more natural than for the Old Bolsheviks to fall back on these original principles ? Both Radek and Bukharin had publicly declared that in following the doctrine of defeatism Lenin had been right and they wrong. Is it not possible that the psychology of Brest- Litovsk reasserted itself and that, in negotiating with Germany and Japan for the cession of the Ukraine and the
Maritime Province, they were reverting to the principle of the ” breathing-space ” in order to safeguard themselves from external aggression, while setting about the destruction of the Stalin regime which they regarded as having betrayed the Revolution? Moreover, had not Lenin himself accepted the facilities offered by Imperialist Germany on his return to Russia ? Was he not always prepared to spoil the Egyptians if by so doing he could strengthen or advance the
Revolution?
How these strange new allies were ultimately to be disposed of is not clear, but presumably it was hoped to regain all territory lost at some later date, either by the extension of the world revolution or by some revolutionary war. The
wisdom of such a course is, of course, clearly questionable. If it is possible to find an explanation of the Moscow mystery in terms of guilt of the accused, this appears to be the only possible clue to a solution. But so complex is the problem that it has even been suggested that Stalin revived the defeatist doctrine of Brest-Litovsk in order to fasten the responsibility for it upon his political rivals and opponents, and to father on these people, very crudely, his
own Leninist policy of 1918.
This consideration, however, is of but academic interest, compared with the very practical application of the principles of Brest-Litovsk now obtaining in Germany, since the advent to power of the National Socialist regime. The Weimar Republic, with the support of the majority opinion on the German General Staff, represented by General von Seeckt, sought to reach a rapprochement with the Soviet Union, and largely succeeded in doing so by the Treaty of Rapallo and the Military Agreement of April 3, 1922, and the German-Russian Non-Aggression Treaty of 1926. There remained, however, a minority who followed in the Hoffmann tradition, regarding Bolshevism as the root of all evil, and dreaming of the ultimate realization of those far reaching plans for German expansion in Eastern Europe which so sadly eluded them after Brest-Litovsk.
Added to this is the very definite view which Adolf Hitler himself holds regarding the treaty, and which the National Socialist Party has sedulously fostered into a legend and an attainable ideal. For the ideology which actuated the dictation of the treaty has not been replaced by any other set of ideas, and has become the conviction of a large part of the German people. The present German generation the generation of Nazi Germany regards the principles of Brest-Litovsk and the motives lying behind it as an actual political programme. None has been more eloquent in this view than the Fuehrer himself, in his comparison of the treaty with the Peace of Versailles. ” I placed the two Treaties side by side, compared them point by point, showed the positively boundless humanity of the one in contrast to the inhuman cruelty of the other “, he wrote
in Mein Kampf. ” In those days I spoke on this subject before audiences of 2000 at which I was often exposed to the gaze of 3600 hostile eyes. And three hours later I had before me a surging mass filled with righteous indignation and boundless wrath.” With this as a pointer it is not surprising to find Hitler stating somewhat later in his work :
” We [the National Socialists] stop the perpetual migration towards the south and west of Europe and fix our gaze on the land in the East . . . when we talk of new lands in Europe, we are bound to think first of Russia and her border States”. And again: “We must not forget that the international Jew, who continues to dominate Russia, does not regard Germany as an ally, but as a State destined to undergo a similar fate. The menace which Russia suffered under is one which perpetually hangs over Germany; Germany is the next great objective of Bolshevism….
With the Drang nach Siid-Osten well under way, the first steps have already been taken to direct the political thought of Germany towards the possible advantages of expansion into Russia. German ” colonization ” in Russia
was proposed by Dr. Schacht at a conference in Rome in November 1932, even before the advent of Hitler to power, and the subject was revived in Herr Hugenberg’s famous memorandum to the World Economic Conference in June
1933. The Fuehrer himself made plain reference to it during his speeches against Communism at the Nurnberg Parteifest of 1936. ” If the Urals with their incalculable wealth of raw materials, the rich forests of Siberia, and theunending
cornfields of the Ukraine lay within Germany, under National Socialist leadership the country would swim in plenty. We would produce, and every single German would have enough to live on “, he told representatives of the Arbeitsfront on September 12. No purer example of Brest- Litovsk psychology could be required than this virtual incitement to plunder. The speech might well have been
inspired by the Press Department of the Great General Staff in the early weeks of 1918.”
The secret Anglo-Zionist pushing for sabotaging a possible alliance between Russia and Germany and provoking a major clash between them found an all to willing executioner in the old Germanic dream of “Drang nach Osten”, conveniently wrapped in the gard of the moral fight against Communism.
Thanks, WizOz. I cannot, however, see how Bennett-Wheeler in this case gives us a clearer picture. Hitler evoked the vast lands owned by the British Empire, the United States or the Soviet Union on a regular basis. Germany was densely populated and didn’t have this luxury of excess land. This was a significant problem after WW1 when people were starving in Germany. As Bennett-Wheeler didn’t have a time machine in 1938, he was unable to foresee that in 1940/41, it would be aggressive Soviet demands and military build-up that would prompt Hitler to prepare and then execute Barbarossa. Germany had the war with Britain to worry about and was not eager to open a second front. But the gigantic Red Army build-up could not be ignored. It threatened vital supplies and the Silesian industrial region.
On a more general note, I can’t make sense of what B-W writes. He doesn’t seem to like straight talk. It’s more like innuendo, like an interpretation. I mean:
»No purer example of Brest-Litovsk psychology could be required than this virtual incitement to plunder. The speech might well have been inspired by the Press Department of the Great General Staff in the early weeks of 1918.«
This is a speech, and nothing more. He reads intentions (»psychology«), and makes a very strong interpretation (»incitement to plunder«). And then »inspiration« by Brest-Litovsk.
Essentially, this is all talk, nothing more. There’s nothing concrete. On the other hand, there’s a wealth of material evidence in Wehrmacht reports and Suvorov’s (and others’) books on Soviet military equipment and deployment. That was material reality, not just words and ideas. That’s the kind of proof I find convincing.
There might be a protocol of some Stalin speech or whatnot, fine; but it’s just a piece of paper, it could be whatever. The massive deployment he ordered, however, became physical reality, weighing much heavier than all talks he could ever give. It’s actions that count, not words.
The catastrophic collapse of the Red Army is the strongest indictment they were not lined up for defense, but riskily exposed in forward deployments, set to perform a massive strike against Germany.
Interesting that Stalin agreed to give Germany like a lot of gold to placate Hitler more than a month before Germany attacked the ussr…. Of course Stalin did not care about anyone’s blood, he even let his own son die let alone some Russians who were nothing to him. Also interesting that Stalin would get oil from Romania when it was allied with Germany.
You can say what you want free or not, but it has to at least make sense. Although the AZ empire and the USSR were enemies going back many hundreds of years, I don’t see any indication that Stalin who was pretty much a coward wanted war with any great power, he could not even defeat Finland let alone Japan or Germany. Why he would purge the officer core responsible for their victory against Japan if he was going to war with Germany since those were the same people who talked about attacking Germany first and they showed they could defeat another power like Japan..
»I don’t see any indication that Stalin who was pretty much a coward wanted war with any great power …«
Read Suvorov’s Icebreaker, then you’ll see indication he had prepared for a massive attack for years, and was now anxious not to miss the best moment. Also, it’ll occur to you that such a bold man cannot possibly have been a coward.