If he appoints a “dyed in the wool” zionist -Neo-con Democrat as FBI director he might as well slit he throat at once. It will all be over but the crying for his regime.
Yes, Trump is a zionist too. But they can’t trust him. He’s too independent for them.He says everything they like. But he just isn’t as much of a stooge as they want to have in power.
“… Yes, Trump is a Zionist too. But they can’t trust him. …”
True. And they don’t. Bernard Levy, that notorious Zionist arch-scum, stated in a recent video that “Trump is dangerous”. The same said that other despicable filth from the same tribe, Noam Chomsky. No better “barometers” than those to gauge the attitude of the hyper-organised world Jew wild dog pack. They obviously perceive Trump as unsuitable in their planetary designs.
How deep are you prepared to go to understand the “deep state?” Are you prepared to do more than window shopping in your search? What I mean, is you have to look deeper than the zionists. That’s only the storefront. The warning I leave you with is, following the “deep state” to ground may take you off-planet. Are you ready for that? The hugeness may astound you, but, that’s the way of truth sometimes, it’s not simple, or tidy, and tied up with a neat bow. Still, there is good news because I foresee two things taking place. The first is their huge and nefarious deceit is going to be found out, and then the operation to shut them down is going to succeed, IOW, God didn’t leave us with no allies, and in the end, it’s what God says that goes; it’s His universe after all is said and done.
He wanted to” Make America Great Again”, and that was interpreted as anti Jewish, because the Jewish agenda competes with America’s agenda.
Jews want the border open with endless immigration.
Those who are pro-America want the borders controlled and immigration limited.
Jews wants a free rein for Global Capital, which means outsourcing of jobs etc.
Those who are pro-America want limits on what coporations can do, so that folks can have decent jobs.
Jews want endless wars of interventions to reshape the world’s geography and economies to their liking.
Those who are pro-American want the US to stop being the world’s cop, and focus on the homeland and its infrastructure.
Trump said he wanted to cut US aid to foreign countries and it made jews panicked.
Why?
Israel is the single biggest recepient of US aid, because they receive $billions annually, and if the US starts cutting back on the $1M given to Kenya but cant touch Israel’s $billions, it will just serve to expose the enormity of Jewish power, and this is something they would rather avoid.
Trump says that he wants to build a wall on the border with Mexico and the MSM goes ballistic pointing out all the negatives of such a decision, and what does Trump do?
He points to Israel’s “security barrier” and shows up the hypocrisy of his critics, who have not once said a negative word about what Israel has done, and keeps doing, despite a ruling against it byvthe ICC.
All this makes Israel snd its supporters furious, because it exposes their crimes and hypocrisy and power for all to see.
And I could go on, and on…
So this is not about Trump and his long association with Jews like Roy Cohn, its about Jews feeling that – his pro-Israel credentials notwithstanding – his stated policies run contrary to theirs, and because of that they want him gone.
Yes, it’s simply theatre play of cr-ISIS actors who are all part of the same Nazi establishment. As it clearly was in hindsight from the start. To keep Rand Paul out and to get at all costs (of credibility) Trump, Hitlery, or another Nazi in.
At least Paul Joseph Watson rightly was disgusted by Trump’s idiotic attack on Syria, and now rightly criticizes Trump for not fighting back at all. How often for instance has president Trump been on Infowars? Not once. (no wonder, he’s not at all who he pretended to be)
The situation is a whole lot different that it seems. The stock market is taking a dive because businesses were hoping for less regulation and far lower taxes. These business whether Jewish or not, are beginning to think less regulation and lower taxes are not going to happen after all so the big profits they hoped for are not going materialize. What’s happening with the stock market has nothing to do with the deep state and everything to do with plain old greed. Also, Trump is widely disliked in the USA. Most folks would probably be happy to see him go. Remember, he is not in the White House because he won the popular vote (he didn’t, Hillary did). Trump is an arrogant and selfish old fart and folks of all stripes would be happy to see him out of the White House.
I disagree that he should. But Trump is cutting regulations and he’s working on a tax cut. So that isn’t the problem. As for “most “people hating him. I don’t see that. There are lot of people that support him. Almost 47% of those that voted ,voted for him. That is almost 63 million people. Yes,he is arrogant. But even more so are his enemies. So there isn’t much difference there.Throwing him out isn’t going to bring an improvement ,just the opposite. It will put the smarter,eviler,war mongers in power. And that is a worse thing than having him in power.
“Now he’s being pulled down by democrats and never-trump”
How is he actually being pulled down? Its CNN talking heads going on about click bait.
Trump is busy fulfilling his personal agenda and paying little or no regard to all the babble.
I have no idea what is that agenda because all the media does is bother with these non-stories and I have no idea what is the real story.
Seems a whole lot of non-interventionist action (short of the occasional chocolate fireworks display) with no actual discussion of what he is actually doing.
You got it, these are only fireworks to keep people distracted from the real nitty-gritty, that the jobs will not come and more people will get alineated, isolated from their peers and without education, health and pension, and without I+D+i, environmental protection, subsidies for agriculture and cooperation for development, to transfer all the founds to the buidling industry and MIC.
Of course the rich and corporations will see their taxes reduced.
How Trump is going to MAGA this way is really a mistery….
As the US heads unmistakably towards a coup or Civil War (probably both ,one after the other). I think it might be important to examine the 2016 elections results. As a way of figuring out the background to this,and its future.
In that election almost 139,000,000 Americans voted. Almost 63,000,000 for Trump. And close to 66,000,000 for Clinton. That is 55.4 % of the voting age population. Meaning that the largest number of Americans,almost 45% “didn’t” vote at all for any candidate. Had that 45% seen Trump as a “new Hitler” or,saw “Hillary” as some kind of savior they would have voted in the election. And most likely for her. But they saw neither,Trump wasn’t a monster to them. And certainly Clinton was no savior in their eyes.
There is a strong possibility that the “deep state” of both Parties is hard at work conspiring for a coup.Whether a “legal coup” through Congress. Or an out and out “putsch” to remove Trump. And install the neo-con Pence in his place. Whether they can succeed or not depends on a couple of factors. Mainly,how the military will behave. And also how the masses of armed “deplorables” will react to that.
Today Trump gave a speech at the USCG graduation ceremony. In the speech he mentioned how badly he is being attacked.And attacked his press enemies for it. He got a huge round of applause from that portion of his speech (the rest of the speech got the normal applause from the cadets and their families). From small signs like that. And from reports that the military voted in the majority “for” Trump in the election. I’m not sure that the putsch plotters can count on the military going along with their plotting.And could be risking a “counter-coup” by the military.Which almost certainly would see many of the putsch plotters imprisoned if not executed (as normally happens in those events).
But assuming the military (at least at first) tolerated the coup. The plotters may have underestimated the level of hatred a coup would bring them in the Trump supporting population.
The level of distrust ,even hatred for the deep state among Americans is higher than I’ve ever seen.Some might not like Trump,but they hate the deep state far more. The idea of an elected President being overthrown is certain to horrify not only Trump’s supporters. But many of the 45% that didn’t vote in the election. And as many of those people hold weapons,and believe in the “sanctity” of abiding by the Constitution. There is more than a possibility of a mass uprising. More than likely on the Donbas level. With the seizure of whole regions of states. If not whole states themselves. And if the rising is strong enough,the coup regime would themselves fall,or a Civil War break out.
So what would be the stakes for Russia and China if either of those things happen.I believe if Trump is overthrow by his enemies. And an “outright” deep state regime installed. Within a short period we will be at war with Russia. The “coup” is almost certainly going to be predicated on “Russiagate” and extreme Russophobia. There are already calls to “punish Russia” over the fake Russiagate. So I see no possibility that a neo-con coup regime would not push for war.And probably with China as well. As no “coup regime” can afford to be seen as “weak” against “Communist China”. That situation will present Russia (and China) with a horrible dilemma. She can’t overtly support the Trump regime. That would only feed the Russophobia. But she can’t stand by and allow a coup regime to take power and attack her either. And if a Civil War does break out. She will have to wait and see who wins. Hoping it would be the Trump supporting side. If I was advising Putin,I’d tell him, if his intelligence services see “any” signs of the coup coming. That they find a pro-Trump person that can be trusted (not an easy task) to leak that information to. And let Trump know about it before it happens. Politics in the US today would “shock” even Machiavelli with its divisiveness. A coup,a Civil War, a race war,any or all of them, are possible at any time.Only a spark is needed to set them alight.
An update to the coup possibility. Using the “legal” circumstances that the USAG recused himself from the Russiagate “investigation”. The deputy AG Ron Rosenstein (Jewish zionist) has given the anti-Trump people what they wanted. And appointed a “special counsel to investigate alleged Russian meddling in the US election”. I think we can see where this is heading (the legal coup option). Its interesting that it is Rosenstein who was the one that advised Trump to fire Comey. Which sparked even more Trump hatred. A case could be made that Rosenstein got Trump to get rid of Comey to feed the Trump hatred. And now is moving to the next part of the coup plot by getting a “special counsel”. Its never a good idea to forget the Mossad motto. Which has always been zionist policy since their beginning,””By way of deception, thou shalt do war”.
The armed American population would never stand a chance against the militarized police forces followed by the US national guard and finally the US Northern Command calling in the US Fifth Army to the quell and kind of armed insurrection by the US population or any kind of secessionist groups or even entire cities or regions if necessary.
This has been guaranteed by US laws.
The US population does not stand a chance assuming they have any dignity or independence left in them.
That would be the cause if its “just” the people. But I don’t think it will be. A lot of military,ex-military,and police,voted for him. I think if they were to rebel, the military forces would split.The US is a big country. Lots of places for partisan warfare if needed. And if the military and states split. They will have a lot of that military ,national guard,and police equipment to use. Now as you say the wild card will be if the citizens “do” actually rebel. But there hasn’t been a situation like this in US history. Except maybe the US Civil War period. And we know that people did rebel. And pretty strongly as well.
“The armed American population would never stand a chance…”
You have no idea or clue what you are talking about. To the uninitiated, it’s an “us vs. them” mentality. The reality is that police, national guard have families here, and certainly would not put them at risk by simply and mindlessly carrying out oppression orders at that scale. If then did, their families would be immediate targets and executed.
Also, most US citizens (non-military or police) who legally own firearms are far better trained and able operators than the police and national guard. Just see the “shootings” read: spraying of bullets everywhere but the target (e.g. NYC, etc.), injuring or killing bystanders. I’d also invited you to check out the various pistol, 3 gun matches, etc. held thought the country. None of the top people are police officers.
“…finally the US Northern Command calling in the US Fifth Army…This has been guaranteed by US laws.”
Nowadays US politics are proof that America is not exceptional, but plainly STUPID, incl its citizen. There was no other country that put a show like this worldwide.
The fascist propaganda machine is running a full blown campaign to condemn the Russian Federation.
1. Russia illegally annexed the federal republic of Crimea.
2. Russia undermines the sovereignty of Ukraine by supporting the separatists in the eastern region of Donbass.
3. Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election (i.e., “Russia-gate”).
4. Russia supports President Assad who allegedly gassed his own people and suppresses democratic principles in Syria.
5. Russian operatives have gained mysterious control over President Trump, who is accused of surreptitiously working to undermine American national security by discussing intelligence around terrorist activity in the Middle East with Russian foreign service personnel.
Russia did this, Russia did that, etc. Russia, Russia, Russia. Pile on the compost of lies at every opportunity.
Do the majority of the American people believe the talking heads who broadcast this flimflam on a daily basis to their digital devices? Yes, I believe they do because I know many of the population who think this way. They are too lazy and ignorant to do independent research and use logical and analytical processes to uncover the truth of what is going on in the world today. They have devolved into social media constructs, lifeless of mental energy to discern fact from fiction who live for the meager benefits, subsidies and entitlements provided by the State. They have allowed themselves to become the walking dead of America.
Russia must have a clear understanding there is no hope for diplomacy, statesmanship or the rule of international law with the western hegemony and that military conflict with the beast in inevitable. She cannot be afraid to go to war against the U.S. or its NATO puppet either in Syria, Donbass, Kaliningrad or Crimea. She absolutely cannot back down, not even one meter of territory, ever.
The question becomes not when but what will be the triggering event to bring the full fury and wrath of Mother Russia to bear arms against the U.S? I believe the Saker community should discuss this so we can be prepared and act accordingly.
“Fifty years ago, the streets of Leningrad taught me one thing: If a fight’s inevitable, you must strike first,”
Putin
The US mainland has so far, escaped the ravages of war that its troops deliver to far away places daily.
I do have a sneaking suspicion however, that the ugly beast that has been kept at bay, is now slowly slouching itself to the mainland, dragging behind it 200 years of pent up death and destruction……
This it will unleash with a righteous fury upon the heads those who chose ignorance and .material content over awareness and the pursuit of knowledge.
A hard slap to the face is coming and it will be struck first……
There is a situation in Brazil. After using Temer to destroy the country the Hegemon pretty much send him to the lions.
USA already has the control of Brazil. So, pretty much it’s useless and the super corrupt o Globo was the one that leaked the audio that (Removed MOD, a bit less graphic please.) the already unpopular Temer in the (Removed.MOD).
Trump represented a Revolution before taking office, and still does, though he’s taken advice to be “respectable” and “presidential”. How can Nationalist Trump work with a Congress (and Courts) filled with Internationalists to get legislation through? HE CAN’T. These situations are settled by Coups and purges. There is no other way. Trump appears to have the military behind him; if so, he needs to shut down the Congress until it can be reorganized to better represent the public; the media needs to be broken up; the leaders of the Democratic party and heads of media who promoted sedition need to be arrested and held for trial. Trump can then make frequent reports to the nation on progress. Sadly, I think Trump is too much of a bourgeois. I hope I’m wrong.
Straw in the wind re Russia: Recently posted video of Tran-Siberian RR trip on Facebook, regretting I had nobody to go with, in contrast to 2014, when a buddy went with me on tour of Moscow, St. Pete, and Golden Circle. (Our wives were both seriously ill, his has since recovered, mine now in assisted living.) Another friend, old hunting partner, very conservative, religious, NRA type, commented it sounded like a great trip, but he was sure we’d be followed closely by the KGB/FSB. (!) I tried to assure him in 2014 there was no evidence of it, went everywhere freely, rode metro to bridge across from Gorky Park (I read/speak Russian well enough to get around), took lunch-time boat rip on Moskva river, no sign of anybody around in wide-open spaces. Also, ruling party (United Russia) describes itself as conservative, Putin/Medvedev publicly religious (and mocked for it), flat 13% tax (which conservatives like), Moscow seemed normal, modern city, much like New York, new churches going up everywhere, etc., etc. But my friend wouldn’t buy any of it. Was sure we were followed closely wherever we went by KGB/FSB (he conflated the two), but they were so good we didn’t realize it, etc., etc.
The significance, as I see it, is that my old, very conservative, religious, hunting partner, who would normally look favorably and be sympathetic to Russia and Russians, especially with Mr. Putin as an outdoors man. has been convinced by the incessant propaganda in the media that the Russians really are coming and we’ve got to be on their guard against them. Small sample size, but striking.
Campains can be dirty, but more so in the US than in some other countries I can name. The strange thing is that Trump was demonized after winning the election. He never got his hundred days of peace as other presidents did. I see Americans attacking the head of the country and that is dangerous. Trump is an angry man now and that affects his judgement. He tried to distance himself from Russia by ordering the strike in Syria, though I think he is a peaceful man. His twitter messages show his state of mind. He is not young. What are they trying to do to him? He has a big workload and the country needs him to make good decisions. Paul said we should pray for our leaders. Instead I see some spreading lies a la Machiavelli.
Uncle Bob 1 on May 17, 2017 · at 11:07 pm UTC wrote:
“There is more than a possibility of a mass uprising. More than likely on the Donbas level. With the seizure of whole regions of states. If not whole states themselves. And if the rising is strong enough,the coup regime would themselves fall,or a Civil War break out.”
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Dear Uncle Bob, I think you underestimate the certified, 100% certain, horrific brutality with which the state would react to any attempt of uprising like you are describing. Be certain they would not hesitate to turn entire neighborhoods or even entire towns into rubble. Do you remember what they did in Phladelphia on May 13 1985? Please look at the pics of how the neighborhood looked afterwards http://mashable.com/2016/01/10/1985-move-bombing/#v8qt5z1N8kqh
Do you remember the Waco siege and massacre in the Spring of 1993?
Keep in mind that in retrsopect those were relatively sweet times compared to the present level of darkness and tyrany, let me remind you. You cannot gauge the level of depravity that rules the US. I would not put it past them to experiment with droping a few MOABs right in the “homeland”, the better to instill a “lively terror” in the native population, like Churchill used to say.
… ain’t happening. ( to finish the sentence )
Dow Jones posting very negative numbers, politicians see Russians lurking in every corner and the MSM seethe with rage about impeachment.
All three:
Wall Street
US politicians
The MSM
are under the complete and total control of jews.
A coup against the will of the American people is afoot!
Now I see where Trump is actively considering (((Joe Liberman))) for the post of FBI Director.
He has yet to realize that pandering to Zion will not save him.
If he appoints a “dyed in the wool” zionist -Neo-con Democrat as FBI director he might as well slit he throat at once. It will all be over but the crying for his regime.
Trump has surrounded himself since the days of Roy Cohn. What gives? Seems like one faction of scum (no offence to scum) against another.
Yes, Trump is a zionist too. But they can’t trust him. He’s too independent for them.He says everything they like. But he just isn’t as much of a stooge as they want to have in power.
“… Yes, Trump is a Zionist too. But they can’t trust him. …”
True. And they don’t. Bernard Levy, that notorious Zionist arch-scum, stated in a recent video that “Trump is dangerous”. The same said that other despicable filth from the same tribe, Noam Chomsky. No better “barometers” than those to gauge the attitude of the hyper-organised world Jew wild dog pack. They obviously perceive Trump as unsuitable in their planetary designs.
I don’t think this is the moderate Zionists – this is deep state – deeper than Israel –
By way of metaphor, think ‘parasitoid’ …
e.g., Jewel Wasp
https://youtu.be/qN2XMyxAs5o
Alas, once the Soviet host was consumed it moved onto its American options.
Want to know how far along the reproduction cycle things are?
Just watch US cops implement their Israeli training on the local US ‘Palestinian’ populations.
Expect to see the lava burrow out of Trump’s neck sometime mid-term (Clinton 2.0 would have been little different).
@ not the roach …
Excellent, accurate observation.
@ Ann
” … Zionists … Israel … …”
But they are the Deep State.
How deep are you prepared to go to understand the “deep state?” Are you prepared to do more than window shopping in your search? What I mean, is you have to look deeper than the zionists. That’s only the storefront. The warning I leave you with is, following the “deep state” to ground may take you off-planet. Are you ready for that? The hugeness may astound you, but, that’s the way of truth sometimes, it’s not simple, or tidy, and tied up with a neat bow. Still, there is good news because I foresee two things taking place. The first is their huge and nefarious deceit is going to be found out, and then the operation to shut them down is going to succeed, IOW, God didn’t leave us with no allies, and in the end, it’s what God says that goes; it’s His universe after all is said and done.
@ MsLiberty
“… God …” (!), etc…
No facts, no arguments.
@MsLiberty. I know exactly what you mean but I’m not sure this community is ready for that :)
What gives?
He wanted to” Make America Great Again”, and that was interpreted as anti Jewish, because the Jewish agenda competes with America’s agenda.
Jews want the border open with endless immigration.
Those who are pro-America want the borders controlled and immigration limited.
Jews wants a free rein for Global Capital, which means outsourcing of jobs etc.
Those who are pro-America want limits on what coporations can do, so that folks can have decent jobs.
Jews want endless wars of interventions to reshape the world’s geography and economies to their liking.
Those who are pro-American want the US to stop being the world’s cop, and focus on the homeland and its infrastructure.
Trump said he wanted to cut US aid to foreign countries and it made jews panicked.
Why?
Israel is the single biggest recepient of US aid, because they receive $billions annually, and if the US starts cutting back on the $1M given to Kenya but cant touch Israel’s $billions, it will just serve to expose the enormity of Jewish power, and this is something they would rather avoid.
Trump says that he wants to build a wall on the border with Mexico and the MSM goes ballistic pointing out all the negatives of such a decision, and what does Trump do?
He points to Israel’s “security barrier” and shows up the hypocrisy of his critics, who have not once said a negative word about what Israel has done, and keeps doing, despite a ruling against it byvthe ICC.
All this makes Israel snd its supporters furious, because it exposes their crimes and hypocrisy and power for all to see.
And I could go on, and on…
So this is not about Trump and his long association with Jews like Roy Cohn, its about Jews feeling that – his pro-Israel credentials notwithstanding – his stated policies run contrary to theirs, and because of that they want him gone.
Its that simple.
Yes, it’s simply theatre play of cr-ISIS actors who are all part of the same Nazi establishment. As it clearly was in hindsight from the start. To keep Rand Paul out and to get at all costs (of credibility) Trump, Hitlery, or another Nazi in.
At least Paul Joseph Watson rightly was disgusted by Trump’s idiotic attack on Syria, and now rightly criticizes Trump for not fighting back at all. How often for instance has president Trump been on Infowars? Not once. (no wonder, he’s not at all who he pretended to be)
The situation is a whole lot different that it seems. The stock market is taking a dive because businesses were hoping for less regulation and far lower taxes. These business whether Jewish or not, are beginning to think less regulation and lower taxes are not going to happen after all so the big profits they hoped for are not going materialize. What’s happening with the stock market has nothing to do with the deep state and everything to do with plain old greed. Also, Trump is widely disliked in the USA. Most folks would probably be happy to see him go. Remember, he is not in the White House because he won the popular vote (he didn’t, Hillary did). Trump is an arrogant and selfish old fart and folks of all stripes would be happy to see him out of the White House.
I disagree that he should. But Trump is cutting regulations and he’s working on a tax cut. So that isn’t the problem. As for “most “people hating him. I don’t see that. There are lot of people that support him. Almost 47% of those that voted ,voted for him. That is almost 63 million people. Yes,he is arrogant. But even more so are his enemies. So there isn’t much difference there.Throwing him out isn’t going to bring an improvement ,just the opposite. It will put the smarter,eviler,war mongers in power. And that is a worse thing than having him in power.
Separating talk from action,
Talk:
blah blah blah
Facts:
Zero evidence for collusion in six months of trying
Zero evidence for revealing state secrets despite testimony and the offer of transcripts
Action:
zero effort towards impeachment.
Conclusion:
DOW to 40 000!
Don’t get stuck in a fixed $/hr job.
Pension you say?
:(
Impeachment?
They always get minorities to do the dirty work. Maxine what’s her name and now this guy Al Green.
As for Trump he surrounded himself with swamp creatures instead of draining the swamp like he said.
Now he’s being pulled down by democrats and never-trump
It’s actually what the CIA do very well colour revolution tactics
“Now he’s being pulled down by democrats and never-trump”
How is he actually being pulled down? Its CNN talking heads going on about click bait.
Trump is busy fulfilling his personal agenda and paying little or no regard to all the babble.
I have no idea what is that agenda because all the media does is bother with these non-stories and I have no idea what is the real story.
Seems a whole lot of non-interventionist action (short of the occasional chocolate fireworks display) with no actual discussion of what he is actually doing.
You got it, these are only fireworks to keep people distracted from the real nitty-gritty, that the jobs will not come and more people will get alineated, isolated from their peers and without education, health and pension, and without I+D+i, environmental protection, subsidies for agriculture and cooperation for development, to transfer all the founds to the buidling industry and MIC.
Of course the rich and corporations will see their taxes reduced.
How Trump is going to MAGA this way is really a mistery….
http://www.publico.es/internacional/recortes-prepara-trump.html
To see if this is published here.
This you will not read/ hear about it anywhere in the US, the least at InfoWars.
As the US heads unmistakably towards a coup or Civil War (probably both ,one after the other). I think it might be important to examine the 2016 elections results. As a way of figuring out the background to this,and its future.
In that election almost 139,000,000 Americans voted. Almost 63,000,000 for Trump. And close to 66,000,000 for Clinton. That is 55.4 % of the voting age population. Meaning that the largest number of Americans,almost 45% “didn’t” vote at all for any candidate. Had that 45% seen Trump as a “new Hitler” or,saw “Hillary” as some kind of savior they would have voted in the election. And most likely for her. But they saw neither,Trump wasn’t a monster to them. And certainly Clinton was no savior in their eyes.
There is a strong possibility that the “deep state” of both Parties is hard at work conspiring for a coup.Whether a “legal coup” through Congress. Or an out and out “putsch” to remove Trump. And install the neo-con Pence in his place. Whether they can succeed or not depends on a couple of factors. Mainly,how the military will behave. And also how the masses of armed “deplorables” will react to that.
Today Trump gave a speech at the USCG graduation ceremony. In the speech he mentioned how badly he is being attacked.And attacked his press enemies for it. He got a huge round of applause from that portion of his speech (the rest of the speech got the normal applause from the cadets and their families). From small signs like that. And from reports that the military voted in the majority “for” Trump in the election. I’m not sure that the putsch plotters can count on the military going along with their plotting.And could be risking a “counter-coup” by the military.Which almost certainly would see many of the putsch plotters imprisoned if not executed (as normally happens in those events).
But assuming the military (at least at first) tolerated the coup. The plotters may have underestimated the level of hatred a coup would bring them in the Trump supporting population.
The level of distrust ,even hatred for the deep state among Americans is higher than I’ve ever seen.Some might not like Trump,but they hate the deep state far more. The idea of an elected President being overthrown is certain to horrify not only Trump’s supporters. But many of the 45% that didn’t vote in the election. And as many of those people hold weapons,and believe in the “sanctity” of abiding by the Constitution. There is more than a possibility of a mass uprising. More than likely on the Donbas level. With the seizure of whole regions of states. If not whole states themselves. And if the rising is strong enough,the coup regime would themselves fall,or a Civil War break out.
So what would be the stakes for Russia and China if either of those things happen.I believe if Trump is overthrow by his enemies. And an “outright” deep state regime installed. Within a short period we will be at war with Russia. The “coup” is almost certainly going to be predicated on “Russiagate” and extreme Russophobia. There are already calls to “punish Russia” over the fake Russiagate. So I see no possibility that a neo-con coup regime would not push for war.And probably with China as well. As no “coup regime” can afford to be seen as “weak” against “Communist China”. That situation will present Russia (and China) with a horrible dilemma. She can’t overtly support the Trump regime. That would only feed the Russophobia. But she can’t stand by and allow a coup regime to take power and attack her either. And if a Civil War does break out. She will have to wait and see who wins. Hoping it would be the Trump supporting side. If I was advising Putin,I’d tell him, if his intelligence services see “any” signs of the coup coming. That they find a pro-Trump person that can be trusted (not an easy task) to leak that information to. And let Trump know about it before it happens. Politics in the US today would “shock” even Machiavelli with its divisiveness. A coup,a Civil War, a race war,any or all of them, are possible at any time.Only a spark is needed to set them alight.
An update to the coup possibility. Using the “legal” circumstances that the USAG recused himself from the Russiagate “investigation”. The deputy AG Ron Rosenstein (Jewish zionist) has given the anti-Trump people what they wanted. And appointed a “special counsel to investigate alleged Russian meddling in the US election”. I think we can see where this is heading (the legal coup option). Its interesting that it is Rosenstein who was the one that advised Trump to fire Comey. Which sparked even more Trump hatred. A case could be made that Rosenstein got Trump to get rid of Comey to feed the Trump hatred. And now is moving to the next part of the coup plot by getting a “special counsel”. Its never a good idea to forget the Mossad motto. Which has always been zionist policy since their beginning,””By way of deception, thou shalt do war”.
https://www.rt.com/usa/388757-robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation/
Uncle Bob :
Here’s a claim on how a civil war redux would likely play out, according to a ‘Mr. Wheeler’ :
http://taxicabdepressions.com/?p=1193
He was a fare for the cab driver during the Obama years.
Ex military.
Interesting that he claims that roughly 100 people across the political, government and media spectrum were the nucleus of the problem.
That taking them out and shooting them would prevent civil war.
No names.
The armed American population would never stand a chance against the militarized police forces followed by the US national guard and finally the US Northern Command calling in the US Fifth Army to the quell and kind of armed insurrection by the US population or any kind of secessionist groups or even entire cities or regions if necessary.
This has been guaranteed by US laws.
The US population does not stand a chance assuming they have any dignity or independence left in them.
That would be the cause if its “just” the people. But I don’t think it will be. A lot of military,ex-military,and police,voted for him. I think if they were to rebel, the military forces would split.The US is a big country. Lots of places for partisan warfare if needed. And if the military and states split. They will have a lot of that military ,national guard,and police equipment to use. Now as you say the wild card will be if the citizens “do” actually rebel. But there hasn’t been a situation like this in US history. Except maybe the US Civil War period. And we know that people did rebel. And pretty strongly as well.
“The armed American population would never stand a chance…”
You have no idea or clue what you are talking about. To the uninitiated, it’s an “us vs. them” mentality. The reality is that police, national guard have families here, and certainly would not put them at risk by simply and mindlessly carrying out oppression orders at that scale. If then did, their families would be immediate targets and executed.
Also, most US citizens (non-military or police) who legally own firearms are far better trained and able operators than the police and national guard. Just see the “shootings” read: spraying of bullets everywhere but the target (e.g. NYC, etc.), injuring or killing bystanders. I’d also invited you to check out the various pistol, 3 gun matches, etc. held thought the country. None of the top people are police officers.
“…finally the US Northern Command calling in the US Fifth Army…This has been guaranteed by US laws.”
Complete nonsense. See the Posse Comitatus Act.
Nowadays US politics are proof that America is not exceptional, but plainly STUPID, incl its citizen. There was no other country that put a show like this worldwide.
The fascist propaganda machine is running a full blown campaign to condemn the Russian Federation.
1. Russia illegally annexed the federal republic of Crimea.
2. Russia undermines the sovereignty of Ukraine by supporting the separatists in the eastern region of Donbass.
3. Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election (i.e., “Russia-gate”).
4. Russia supports President Assad who allegedly gassed his own people and suppresses democratic principles in Syria.
5. Russian operatives have gained mysterious control over President Trump, who is accused of surreptitiously working to undermine American national security by discussing intelligence around terrorist activity in the Middle East with Russian foreign service personnel.
Russia did this, Russia did that, etc. Russia, Russia, Russia. Pile on the compost of lies at every opportunity.
Do the majority of the American people believe the talking heads who broadcast this flimflam on a daily basis to their digital devices? Yes, I believe they do because I know many of the population who think this way. They are too lazy and ignorant to do independent research and use logical and analytical processes to uncover the truth of what is going on in the world today. They have devolved into social media constructs, lifeless of mental energy to discern fact from fiction who live for the meager benefits, subsidies and entitlements provided by the State. They have allowed themselves to become the walking dead of America.
Russia must have a clear understanding there is no hope for diplomacy, statesmanship or the rule of international law with the western hegemony and that military conflict with the beast in inevitable. She cannot be afraid to go to war against the U.S. or its NATO puppet either in Syria, Donbass, Kaliningrad or Crimea. She absolutely cannot back down, not even one meter of territory, ever.
The question becomes not when but what will be the triggering event to bring the full fury and wrath of Mother Russia to bear arms against the U.S? I believe the Saker community should discuss this so we can be prepared and act accordingly.
“Fifty years ago, the streets of Leningrad taught me one thing: If a fight’s inevitable, you must strike first,”
Putin
The US mainland has so far, escaped the ravages of war that its troops deliver to far away places daily.
I do have a sneaking suspicion however, that the ugly beast that has been kept at bay, is now slowly slouching itself to the mainland, dragging behind it 200 years of pent up death and destruction……
This it will unleash with a righteous fury upon the heads those who chose ignorance and .material content over awareness and the pursuit of knowledge.
A hard slap to the face is coming and it will be struck first……
There is a situation in Brazil. After using Temer to destroy the country the Hegemon pretty much send him to the lions.
USA already has the control of Brazil. So, pretty much it’s useless and the super corrupt o Globo was the one that leaked the audio that (Removed MOD, a bit less graphic please.) the already unpopular Temer in the (Removed.MOD).
it could be that Israel – moderate Israel defends Trump – he’s bent over backwards for Israeal so far –
Trump represented a Revolution before taking office, and still does, though he’s taken advice to be “respectable” and “presidential”. How can Nationalist Trump work with a Congress (and Courts) filled with Internationalists to get legislation through? HE CAN’T. These situations are settled by Coups and purges. There is no other way. Trump appears to have the military behind him; if so, he needs to shut down the Congress until it can be reorganized to better represent the public; the media needs to be broken up; the leaders of the Democratic party and heads of media who promoted sedition need to be arrested and held for trial. Trump can then make frequent reports to the nation on progress. Sadly, I think Trump is too much of a bourgeois. I hope I’m wrong.
Straw in the wind re Russia: Recently posted video of Tran-Siberian RR trip on Facebook, regretting I had nobody to go with, in contrast to 2014, when a buddy went with me on tour of Moscow, St. Pete, and Golden Circle. (Our wives were both seriously ill, his has since recovered, mine now in assisted living.) Another friend, old hunting partner, very conservative, religious, NRA type, commented it sounded like a great trip, but he was sure we’d be followed closely by the KGB/FSB. (!) I tried to assure him in 2014 there was no evidence of it, went everywhere freely, rode metro to bridge across from Gorky Park (I read/speak Russian well enough to get around), took lunch-time boat rip on Moskva river, no sign of anybody around in wide-open spaces. Also, ruling party (United Russia) describes itself as conservative, Putin/Medvedev publicly religious (and mocked for it), flat 13% tax (which conservatives like), Moscow seemed normal, modern city, much like New York, new churches going up everywhere, etc., etc. But my friend wouldn’t buy any of it. Was sure we were followed closely wherever we went by KGB/FSB (he conflated the two), but they were so good we didn’t realize it, etc., etc.
The significance, as I see it, is that my old, very conservative, religious, hunting partner, who would normally look favorably and be sympathetic to Russia and Russians, especially with Mr. Putin as an outdoors man. has been convinced by the incessant propaganda in the media that the Russians really are coming and we’ve got to be on their guard against them. Small sample size, but striking.
Campains can be dirty, but more so in the US than in some other countries I can name. The strange thing is that Trump was demonized after winning the election. He never got his hundred days of peace as other presidents did. I see Americans attacking the head of the country and that is dangerous. Trump is an angry man now and that affects his judgement. He tried to distance himself from Russia by ordering the strike in Syria, though I think he is a peaceful man. His twitter messages show his state of mind. He is not young. What are they trying to do to him? He has a big workload and the country needs him to make good decisions. Paul said we should pray for our leaders. Instead I see some spreading lies a la Machiavelli.
Uncle Bob 1 on May 17, 2017 · at 11:07 pm UTC wrote:
“There is more than a possibility of a mass uprising. More than likely on the Donbas level. With the seizure of whole regions of states. If not whole states themselves. And if the rising is strong enough,the coup regime would themselves fall,or a Civil War break out.”
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Dear Uncle Bob, I think you underestimate the certified, 100% certain, horrific brutality with which the state would react to any attempt of uprising like you are describing. Be certain they would not hesitate to turn entire neighborhoods or even entire towns into rubble. Do you remember what they did in Phladelphia on May 13 1985? Please look at the pics of how the neighborhood looked afterwards
http://mashable.com/2016/01/10/1985-move-bombing/#v8qt5z1N8kqh
Do you remember the Waco siege and massacre in the Spring of 1993?
Keep in mind that in retrsopect those were relatively sweet times compared to the present level of darkness and tyrany, let me remind you. You cannot gauge the level of depravity that rules the US. I would not put it past them to experiment with droping a few MOABs right in the “homeland”, the better to instill a “lively terror” in the native population, like Churchill used to say.