We all saw the pictures coming out of Mariupol today. I won’t re-post them here. Simple people trying to stop a gang of heavily armed thugs who fancy themselves as some kind of “special forces” but whose “specialty” seems to be in shooting unarmed – or very poorly armed – civilians.
It would be wrong to compare these Ukie thugs to the SS, as some have done. For all their wrongs, the Waffen-SS fought well, and not only against defenseless civilians, but also in real combat. But these Ukie “special units” still have not managed in taking over Slaviansk or Kramatorsk! Yes, there even was a Victory Day parade in Slaviansk were Pavel Gubarev, the “people-elected governor” of the Donetsk region spoke at an official rally. Same thing in Kramatorsk where a Victory Day celebration also took place.
Amazing, no? We are, by Kiev’s official count, already in the second phase of the second anti-terrorist operation and the “special” forces have yet to capture a single town!
Pavel Gubarev in Slaviansk |
And then there is Mariupol. What happened there is almost as disgusting as the massacre in Odessa. The main difference is that at least in Odessa the junta did not use uniformed “special forces” but soccer hooligans and specially bused-in neo-Nazi thugs from Kiev. In Mariupol civilians were shot by “official” unifomed personnel. And for what purpose exactly? How many *armed* “terrorists” have been captured or killed in Mariupol?
A single sniper in Slaviansk has “succeeded” in shooting a 12 year old kid in the chest. Something the freaks in Kiev can be proud of, I suppose. The local press is now reporting that the SBU is sending more reinforcements to Slaviansk. It’s pathetic, really.
Also, did you know that he first batch of recalled Ukainian servimen had to be sent home after 45 days of “operations”. It’s even worse then that: all those who did in some way participate in the “combat operations” against the people of the Donbass have been granted the official status of “war veterans” with all the privileges attached to this honor. Truly,
Glory to the Ukraine!
To the heroes, glory!
(Ukie slogan)
This entire mini-civil war is constantly oscillating between being a farce and an abomination.
Oleg Liashko hard at work |
Yesterday I saw a video of Yulia Timoshenko warning Putin that the glorious Ukrainian people will topple his regime, I kid you not. As for Nuland’s favorite Ukie – “Iats” – he was on the “frontlines” somewhere near Slaviansk “encouraging to troops”.
But my all time favorite is a guy called Oleg Liashko, a flamboyant “pedo-cum-homo sexual” (now “married” to a Russian woman) who dresses in fashionable black “kind of combat” fatigues and then interrogates captured “terrorists” like TV producers or, more recently, an “ex minister of Defense” of the Donetsk Republic. Then the videos are uploaded to YouTube, apparently in preparation for the upcoming Presidential election (to bolster Liashko’s macho credentials I suppose).
Liashko is just one particularly colorful specimen from a full gallery of freaks. If you are interested, I can introduce you to some other rather amazing Ukie nationalists like the notorious Irina Farion (an ex-commie turned nationalist) or Valentin Nalivaichenko, probably the highest ranking CIA agent in the current junta.
Liashko in “combat training” |
Several times I have referred to this regime as a “freak show” and I did not mean that as an insult, but as a statement of fact. The folks which have seized power in Kiev are quite literally freaks and so far, they have not succeeded in doing anything at all. Nothing.
I am beginning to suspect that they might even fail in disrupting the upcoming referendum scheduled for Sunday. Frankly, I had – and still have – major doubts about the ability of the pro-Russian forces in the Donbass to organized such a referendum on such short notice and in the midst of a small but ugly mini-civil war, but then when I look at the freaks in Kiev and their “scorecard” so far I have even bigger doubts about their ability to disrupt the upcoming referendum, nevermind preventing it from taking place.
I have to tell you that my own record on predicting the events in the Ukraine has been rather terrible. First, I did not even think that Crimea would join Russia. It did. Then I doubted that the folks in the Donbass would be able to stand up to the regime in Kiev. They “kinda did”. Not all, not too effectively. But apparently effectively enough to bring the entire repressive machine of the neo-Nazi junta to a grinding halt. Frankly, I do not credit Putin or Russia for that success. They did not do nearly as much to destroy the Ukraine as a unitary state as the crazies in Kiev who are now scaring and enraging more and more people in Odessa and in Mariupol. And things are only going to get worse from now on, at least for the junta.
First, Russia has announced that unless Kiev pre-pays for the gas scheduled for delivery in June Russia will turn off the spigot. The junta, of course, refused and is demanding that Moscow reinstate all the previous discounts it had offered the Ukraine.
Second, while I will gladly admit that I have no idea what the outcome of the referendum will be, unless a majority votes against it (which is hard to imagine), I don’t really see how the junta intends to submit giant cities like Donetsk or Kharkov it it cannot event conquer Slaviansk or Kramatorsk. By the way, I am aware of the Pew poll about public opinion in the Ukraine, but I cannot take it seriously as it contradicts everything I hear from local sources. But, hey, if a majority of the people in the Donbass wants to say in a unitary Banderastan run by a junta of freaks – that is fine by me. Who am I to tell them otherwise? Still, I see no reason whatsoever to trust that poll. None.
If we assume that a) the referendum will take place and b) that a majority of the people in the Donbass will vote to declare independence (and these appear to be reasonable assumptions), then I don’t see what the Ukies can do about it.
Third, the economic crisis will begin to bite really hard in June and it will not abate for the foreseeable future. If the Donbass will probably survive with Russian money, the rump Banderastan will truly jump off the economic cliff over the course of the summer. What in the world will the freaks do then to try to regain control of the situation?
Fourth, if the crisis hits as badly as it predicted to do by most experts, this will add a lot of fuel to the discontent in cities like Odessa which, in a sane world, should be rather prosperous. Ditto for Nikolaev or Mariupol. Even Kiev used to be a beautiful and prosperous city.
It would take a genius, assisted by a truly brilliant government having the support and trust of a strong majority of people to tackle such a multi-dimensional disaster as what is about to hit. Instead, the Ukraine is run by a sad and ugly gang of clueless but nasty freaks.
There is simply no way that this will work. Banderastan will implode and the only thing which these neo-Nazis will have the time to do before it all comes down is to turn against each other in a last fit of rage.
There is nothing at all the US/EU can do to prevent this outcome except one thing: to sit down and seriously negotiate with Russia with the full awareness that the US/EU are in an extremely weak negotiating position and that Moscow holds all the cards, including the crucial one: time. If the US/EU really agreed to seriously negotiate with Russia, maybe some kind of “Ukraine” can still be salvaged, but it would have to be much smaller than it is today, it would have to be Nazi-free and it would have to be at the very least truly neutral.
Sadly, that only pragmatic solution would be too humiliating to the pompous clown in the US and EU. For the US, that would be even a far worse humiliation than the disastrous failure of the US policy towards Syria. With very few exceptions, almost all US/EU politicians have put their full political authority and weight behind the freak-parade in Kiev and now to admit that the “Emperor is naked”. So, just as in the original tale,
The Emperor shivered, for he suspected they were right. But he thought, “This procession has got to go on.” So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn’t there at all.
If that is really how this all will end, then the Empire’s days are truly counted and there ain’t much left of them.
It is hard to imagine, isn’t it? If my logic tells me that this is almost inevitable, my gut tells me that somehow, somebody, somewhere will pull out a magic trick out of his/her hat and that, like a cat which falls from a tree branch, the Empire will land back on its paws. Except that all Empires must come to an end and that this one has already outlived its shelf life by several decades at least. Except that by putting its full authority behind a nasty gangs of neo-Nazi freaks the AngloZionists have totally discredited themselves. How could any regime or any Empire survive such a shameful deed?
I honestly don’t know.
The Saker
Espina said
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38466.htm
Espina Scotland
Re: Chatham House link-
James- yes, funny I was coming back here to address that. I was aware of the source at the time but I figured it for a rare piece of honesty coming out of thinktank land. Then I remembered, you can’t ever trust these people. Cleverly disguised is right. Thanks, though. nk
NATO/EU is terrorist organization
I notice that whilst the governor of Ukraine’s southern Kherson region, Yuri Odarchenko, stood up at a Victory Day parade and announced that Hitler was a “liberator”, the terrorist state of America, the Commissars of the EUSSR and our tame poodle government said not a word of condemnation. Then again, the terrorist state of America is still funding and arming Pravy Sektor and Svoboda, the two Nazi organizations that the Kiev junta are now calling their “National Guard”. Moreover, not a word of condemnation from the Americans or any of their tame poodles about the actions of this “National Guard” in Mariupol in gunning down unarmed civilians in the streets.
Just to make matters worse, the American terrorist state is now supplying missiles to the terrorists in Syria, which includes Al Qaeda, as part of their ongoing attempt at overthrowing a legitimate government in a sovereign state; with the tame poodles in the EUSSR and our government cheering them on.
On the other hand, the American terrorist state, under the orders of the war criminal Obama and his war criminal cabinet, continue to denounce the Russian speaking population of the Ukraine as “terrorists”. This blatant hypocrisy, as well as the blatant breaches of international law perpetrated by the Americans, illustrates how much the Americans have developed into a corrupt, lying, hypocritical, war-mongering state, and why it has become probably the most despised country in the world.
To make matters worse, our incompetent Prime Monster, Camoron, and his little worm of a Foreign Secretary Hague, continue to do as they are told, by the Americans, and fully support the American actions and policies. Not only are they going to drag us into another expensive, in terms of money and lives, war but they are once again going to cause untold damage to the UK’s economy.
So, all you people that fall for the blatant lies and propaganda of the terrorist state of America, the undemocratic and unelected Commissars of the EUSSR, and the tame American poodles we have for a government, remember, when your direct and indirect taxes rise again, and fuel and energy prices start to skyrocket, you know who to blame.
It’s snowing hard here in Wyoming. Acts like a big one. Not good for baby calves but anything for moisture.
Out there, noting the huge queues
around all of the polling places even in Mariupol, you know that this referendum is going to be a big deal indeed. I’ll be astonished if the yes vote is less than 80%. The organizers rejection of Putin’s “plea” to postpone the vote adds to the credibility of the results.
What happens now? The vote in Donetsk & Luhansk will create huge popular pressure in Kharkov and other eastern oblasts for similar referendums. How does Kiev stop the infection from spreading?
I have been on target most of time. I was sure conscripts from the East wouldn’t shoot people from their own communities; I couldn’t imagine the activists being dumb enough to postpone their vote nor that Putin expected them to. But the feebleness of the assault on Slovyansk baffles me. I expected Kiev would find western units at least ‘sort of’ willing to fight, and by bolstering them with mercenaries and “national guard” would launch a serious enough attack to run the resisters out of ammunition.
Maybe the Americans (though it’s a rare week when they don’t murder at least that many people themselves) noticed that word of massacres in Odessa and Mariupol had leaked out and are creating a ‘PR problem’. Or maybe the Germans are saying “If this keeps up we’re bailing out. Or maybe the Russians are are saying “Our patience isn’t infinite.”
Or maybe it’s not outside pressure, just bad morale. Maybe Kiev–despite the oligarchs–is writing off the outermost oblasts to concentrate on holding the rest. I doubt it but I certainly hope so.
Well I need to get on my overshoes and join the storm. Good luck out there!
Tom
Whoops, I just noticed–while buckling my overshoes–something of considerable significance in ITAR TASS. Industrialists in Mariupol are organizing workers to police the city along with police and telling the Ukrainian military to get the hell out. Done in honest conviction or to get in good with the resistance (It’s said that the coal miners are determined to nationalize the mines and create cooperatives) this move by Metinvest is a good sign sign for Donetsk and a bad one for Kiev and the arch criminal Kolomoiski. Tom
In the Apocalyptic vision seen by the prophet Dan 7:3-7
The first beast is a Lion. The Lion is the heraldic figure for Britain. The Eagle’s wing is America. So the Lion with Eagle’s wings is the Anglo-American empire. The Eagle’s wings are plucked off and the now wingless Lion is made to stand up as a man and receives a human heart. The Anglo-American empire is set up for a humbling. This is good because there is hope for mercy in humility.
The Bear is Russia. It has three ribs in the mouth. These are three occasions in which the will of the Most High will be for the Bear to win. Every time the number three is repeated in scripture it represents the will of the Most High. Who knows whether it could be that Georgia war win was first, then Syria’s war win and then Crimea’s return to the Russian sphere. It is hard to say. But the Bear is told to eat much flesh in the vision.
Note how the Operation “Eagle” Guardian was organized within NATO and defined to defend the three Baltic Nations plus Poland from a hypothetical Russian attack.
The Leopard is the heraldic figure for France. Note how France is continuing on with the military ship building contract on behalf of Russia. Note also that France has a $50 billion exposure to the Russian economy.
The fourth beast is actually a composite of the first three beasts. Let’s look at it from Revelation:
John’s vision in Revelation 13:1-4
Once more, the beast described is a composite beast. It looks like a leopard (France), feet of the bear (Russia), mouth of a lion (anglo-american empire), the dragon (China) gave him his power.
Here is a pic of the flags of the composite beast described in Daniel and in Revelation….with an Eagle winged Lion (Anglo-American), Leopard (France), Bear (Russia), Red dragon (China)
http://www.worldpolicy.org/sites/default/files/node_img/shutterstock_72942211.jpg
Note how Revelation 17:12-13 records the vision of the ten horns while Daniel 2:41-42 records the vision of the ten toes. Look here at the ten non-permanent members of the UN-SC
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42268000/gif/_42268868_un_table203x223.gif
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/businessinsider/~3/hhDXfWENRxc/yes-ballots-ukraine-2014-5 sorry if someone posted this already…pre-checked ballots seized in Ukraine? The psy-op begins…
Maedhros said… on 11 May, 2014 09:52
„Next step: the open persecution of the Church and the Christians!
https://mospat.ru/ru/2014/05/10/news102195/“
Careful now! It all depends on which Church and which Christians.
I already asked some days ago, when I read this on the internet:
“Since the early 1990s, Ukraine has become not just the “Bible Belt” of the region, but a hub of evangelical church life (such as Sunday Adelaja’s Pentecostal megachurch), education, and missions”.
Or here:
“The Protestant Festival of Hope, with the participation of evangelist Franklin Graham, was held on July 6–8, 2007, and gathered more than 40,000 Ukrainians at the Olympic National Stadium in Kiev. Guests of the festival were able to hear testimonies of faith by well-known athletes, evangelical activists, and civil leaders. There were musical groups of various genres from Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Moldova, and the United States.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_in_Ukraine
Does anybody know more about this evangelical business and their political involvement in Ukraine?”
Maybe I should have put it more bluntly: Since dozens of years quite a lot of evangelical organizations have been accused of working together with the CIA, mostly in Latin America (in Guatemala and Chile even the torture was outsourced to evangelical sects). Here are just two reports of many:
http://www.coha.org/evangelical-protestants-in-venezuela-robertson-only-the-latest-controversy-in-a-long-and-bizarre-history/
Or this by Wayne Madsen: http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=618620
And lots of books like: Gerard Colby and Charlotte Dennett: Thy Will Be Done. (About Wycliffe Bible Translator’s (also known as the Summer Institute of Linguistic -SIL)).
http://www.finalcall.com/perspectives/sudan_cia05-15-2001.htm
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-05-14/books/bk-273_1_nelson-rockefeller
So, please, what do I think when reading, that Oleksandr Turchynov is a „Leading elder of the Word of Life Church“?
First I google and find two churches of this name, one not better than the other:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Life_Church
1. http://www.abpnews.com/culture/politics/item/28398-ukrainian-leader-puts-spotlight-on-baptists
2. http://risu.org.ua/en/index/expert_thought/analytic/51507/
And I ask again: Does anybody know more about these very special two evangelical churches and their political involvement in Ukraine?”
http://www.standartnews.com/english/read/bild_am_sonntag_400_elite_us_commandos_help_kiev_in_ukraine-3612.html
About 400 elite commandos of a notorious US private security firm, Academi, are involved in a punitive operation mounted by Ukraine’s new government against federalization supporters in eastern Ukraine, the German Bild am Sonntag newspaper reported on Sunday.
According to the newspaper, Academi mercenaries participate in attacks against federalization supporters near Slavyansk. So far, it’s unclear who hired them.
In April 29, Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service (BND) informed the Angela Merkel government about Academi commandos’ involvement in Kiev’s military operations in eastern Ukraine.
Academi, former Blackwater (renamed in 2009), gained notoriety for killings of civilians in Iraq, arms smuggling and other crimes, TASS reports.
Media reports claiming that the Ukrainian leadership wants to recruit personnel from private foreign military companies “in order to maintain law and order” may suggest that the Kiev regime wants to suppress civil protest and discontent, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.
Private military company will be in charge of suppressing protest movements in Eastern Ukraine, said a source in the country’s Security Service. According to him, the name of the company is Greystone Limited.
Confirmed by “Der Spiegel”:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-400-us-soeldner-von-academi-kaempfen-gegen-separatisten-a-968745.html
cheers from serbia!
http://ruskline.ru/politnews/2014/05/10/serbiya_podderzhivaet_russkij_donbass/
Ukrainian mining and steel group of companies Metinvest of Rinat Achmetow „urged Ukrainian leadership “to admit irreparable errors” and to stop a punitive operation in Donetsk Region“
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/731131
Kiev is not amused: “Die Forderung der Metallgruppe Metinvest des reichsten Ukrainers Rinat Achmetow, mit der Gewaltanwendung in der ostukrainischen Region Donezk Schluss zu machen, trägt nicht zur Beilegung der Ukraine-Krise bei, so der amtierende Leiter der ukrainischen Präsidentenadministration, Sergej Paschinski (Serhiy Pashinski?), bei einem Briefing am Sonntag.”
http://www.russland.ru/minutenprotokoll-des-tages-11-5-2014-aktualisiert-0921/
Does someone here know more?
So, 1/3 of Ukraine’s industrial output is gone…probabbly same share of hard currency earnings. IMF will have to reduce its loan accordingly.
As for Donetsk-Lugansk duo, now they have to quickly build up their military and liberate the rest of Novorossiya. Odessa needs only a tiny spark to start butchering Nazis in droves.
MS in Kiev,
Please keep posting whatever you find noticeable.
Being the witness on the ground, your input is invaluable, and is highly appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to write about all the deatils.
@Old Auntie
I understand and welcome your remarks, but you see, for us there is only One Church, the Orthodox, and a miriad of sects, the most important and numerous being the Roman Catholic one.
So we sometimes forget that it may be confusing for outsiders.
Does someone here know more?
Metinvest is a major employer in Donbass, and its owner, Rinat Akhmetov is the major power broker in the region, being the money behind the Party of Regions. Rinat is not at all amused by Euromaidan, and being a billionaire, he is wealthy enough to have his own well armed security service, which will apparently soon be deployed openly in Donbass. It would not surprise me in the least that he has been funding the uprising and is behind everything going on in Donbass aside from the stupidity of Kiev in sending in armor and helicopter gunships..
tom garrett:
But the feebleness of the assault on Slovyansk baffles me. I expected Kiev would find western units at least ‘sort of’ willing to fight, and by bolstering them with mercenaries and “national guard” would launch a serious enough attack to run the resisters out of ammunition.
The rebels admitted yesterday they had a deal with the Ukrainian Army to not shoot each other or to shoot civilians.
All of the shooting has been National Guard/Right Sector type units, which being newly formed are ill-disciplined and lack operational knowledge. Just bunch of goons in heavy equipment. This explains their inability to accomplish the simplest military objectives – they lack any military training or experience beyond firing a gun and how to drive the equipment they have been given (or that they took from the Army). On the other hand, the rebels in Slavyansk are being lead by a 50 year old former Soviet Spetsnaz commander (I think a Lt. Colonel, or a Colonel) with experience fighting in Afghanistan, and many of the men are former comrades in arms of the commander or veterans of the Russian and Ukrainian armies.
This is a total mismatch of tactical skill and operational experience in favor of the rebels.
It just so happens my unused link to this site linked to the 10/13/13 post here.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2013/10/1993-2013-is-twenty-years-long-pas-de.html
1993-2013: is the twenty years long “pas de deux” of Russia and the USA coming to an end?
Obviously the answer is yes. However I think the enmity goes beyond the Arctic or Syria. It goes to the very heart of dollar hegemony in world finance which in turn cannot be separated from oil and gas.
The further strengthening of links with China and Iran involving energy not traded in dollars is an existential threat to the US. Seen in that light the absurd Ukraine situation makes sense in that it set in motion what I call the ‘We have always been at war with North Asia’ ad campaign.
It’s bad enough that Russia which sees itself as a world power is trying to bring America down a notch, or ten, by disrupting the international monetary/financial status quo but they are partnering with China. (Iran too but they are a bit player)
The battle lines for the 21st century are now set. Of course what the empire managers think the century will be about isn’t what it will be about. The energy/monetary/financial status quo is dying of its own accord.
So we are getting read to fight a war over things war cannot resolve. It’s all late stage empire stuff one might think and is stupendously troubling.
Colinjames said, “Then I remembered, you can’t ever trust these people.”
Exactly. Well said!
@Nora, sorry I haven’t gotten back to you sooner. The trouble is that these Chatham House type people use truth as bait to hook readers with. Even when they report an event that is true, they usually distort its meaning.
Can you say that a drink containing poison is still mostly good?
Dear Saker,
Please find a link to the website of Donetsk Rupublic, some posts are in English
http://rusvesna.su/english
Kindest regards,
Irina
james,
Just saw a photograph the other week of some food product being labeled “Half Organic” !! So yes, I almost didn’t read that piece precisely bc of where it was from. But it still struck me as true, and I still don’t understand why they ran it — unless they were even stupider and more arrogant than usual and thought they were being slick? Or, more probably, they were too blinded by their arrogance and stupidity to recognize the truth when it was sitting right in front of them?
Hi Nora,
“Half Organic”! Amazing.
The piece in question is aimed at “the suits” – people who are middle class and higher and consider themselves intelligent and, more precisely, superior because of that intelligence (and their money, of course). So the lies have to be below the surface but present never-the-less.
Their positions of privilege are dependent on them not acknowledging the truth so they need convenient rationalizations to prop up their intellectual positions and the system that feeds them. Hence, the publications that come from organs like Chattering House.
@Anonymous (Russian apology to Ukraine):
Russia suffered at least as much from the Soviet “experiment” as anyone else. It’s culture and religion were largely destroyed. The best men and women emigrated or were killed. And everyone (except psychopaths) suffered. Russia did not even gain new territories; Russia of 1991 was much smaller than Russia of 1917.
The above has been said enough times by Russia political elite. (See President Putin’s historic Crimea address, for example.) Also see the article by Sergei Karaganov below. (Karaganov is one of the top political elite in Russia.)
All the above can probably be said for Nazism too, with respect to Germany. I do not wish, however, for Russia to go to the German extremes of theatrical apologies. That is more so, as it serves no purpose — does the feeling of German “guilt” makes the German elite any less willing to serve the US empire?
http://eng.globalaffairs.ru/pubcol/A-Russian-Katyn-14949
Greetings from India, everyone!
However I think the enmity goes beyond the Arctic or Syria.
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WAY beyond……
http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/the-big-picture-beyond-the-ukraine/
james,
YES! Now that makes sense! Thank you. At some point, someone is going to have to summarize Leo Strauss’ effect on, well, everything. I find it terminally depressing to even think about the creep but maybe I’ll delve back in. Unless you’d like to, of course… :~)
Nora said, “At some point, someone is going to have to summarize Leo Strauss’ effect on, well, everything.’
Yes, Nora, “your mission, should you choose to accept it …. Maybe you could do a guest post for Saker :)
And behind Strauss is Rockefellers’ University of Chicago – the home of Milton Friedman, too (who cannot be dead enough for me!)
@ Anonymous 10 May, 2014 00:09
Is this true?
“The five marks of the Roman decaying culture:¨
The last 50 years of the W Roman empire, after Constantine converted to christianity.
I´m no historian, but to me it seems the perversions occurred mostly during the 1st and 2nd century, not from 350 – 400.
And many of those activities happened many hundreds of years before, not as provocative, in Greece and other countries of the classical and ancient world.
Thank’s for your blog and for all these comments so intelligent.
Here, in France, we are interested too in all what is happened in Ukraine, we are involved emotionally in this murderous acts and massacre. We try to protest in the differents ways, even by petition to president of Republik francais Hollande : Stop supporter nacizm in Ukraine!
https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/petition/Monsieur_le_President_de_la_Republique_Francaise_LA_FRANCE_NE_DOIT_PAS_SOUTENIR_LE_NAZISME_EN_UKRAINE/edit
please, help us to collect more voices and sign for that petition
Sorry, for my bad english that is much to be desired :-(
Thank’s for your blog and for all these comments so intelligent.
Here, in France, we are interested too in all what is happened in Ukraine, we are involved emotionally in this murderous acts and massacre. We try to protest in the differents ways, even by petition to president of Republik francais Hollande : Stop supporter nacizm in Ukraine!
https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/petition/Monsieur_le_President_de_la_Republique_Francaise_LA_FRANCE_NE_DOIT_PAS_SOUTENIR_LE_NAZISME_EN_UKRAINE/edit
please, help us to collect more voices and sign for that petition
Sorry, for my bad english that is much to be desired :-(