Paul Joseph Watson clearly knows as much about Communism as he knows about Islam: nothing. But in his observations of what is going on in the US society, he is spot on. Having lived in the USA for over 20 years total (5+16) I can confirm that he is not exaggerating at all and that there is this “war on men” going on. Sadly, the typical alternative to what PJW calls “soy boys” is not real, normal, manly men, but stupid macho brutes (as shown in the photos contrasting a skinny soy-boy with what looks to me like homosexual body builders). The West is really sexually dysfunctional to the extreme, hence this kind of caricatures in the Russian press:
So there is also an evident war on women and femininity going on.
And with homosexual couples having the right to adopt children combined a school system designed to produce semi-literate and minimally skilled slaves for the rich, I would argue that there is also a war in children going on. The result? We all saw what West Point produces nowadays:
The truth is that this war is no a war on any one gender, but a war against the human family as such, against nature itself and, of course, against God.
Here is what PJW has to say about that:
It’s only a war against those among the 99% who are not serving the needs of the 1%. Against the “useless mouths” in “elite” parlance.
It looks like “someone” is trying to weaken its host to better control and exploit it, but still expect this host to be powerful enough to conquire the world. It is so absurd, I can foresee a massive collapse.
As a father and grandfather, with children and grandchildren I am proud of, yes – – –
Nice presentation. The Jews, Hollywood Weinstein, & Senator Franken are innocent, until charged with some crime and found guilty in a – court of law.
Nice Paul Joseph Watson video.
Imagine: Men enjoying women, and vice versa. As a teenager, was I ever guilty of stuff!!! And I’d do it again!!! Wait!!! I’m still doing it. Uh Oh! Here come the homo-policemen.
Is one of the goals of the Hate Men effort, besides the creation of a worldwide totalitarian society (as described by Orwell), Population control? No children?
I love children. They are great for slapping around, and slave labor. Uh Oh! more queer policemen. Must resign my Senate Seat, give up making more Hollywood movies. Matt Damon: keep your mouth shut. No more common sense from you.
I keep thinking of those terrible Men, at Lexington and Concord, at Bunker’s Hill. They were just acting out their Male Chauvinistic attitudes. Y la Gente de Playa Giron? Poor Che Guevara, and Fidel. My mother loved men (Thank God).
I would keep writing, but I see a gorgeous chick (loaded), walking down the street. I must grope.
Durruti
For the Anarchist Collective
*Oh! And while you’re at it; Restore the Republic!
Welcome back Durruti ! sorry, I saw you were here a few days ago but just in a hurry.
This article I am posting had a title though it is no longer visible.
Weinstein is not innocent and no, I am not a feminist. Powerful wealthy people ( men and women) many times never get to see a court of law even when they are guilty.
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/246724/the-specifically-jewy-perviness-of-harvey-weinstein
Carmel by the Sea:
Thanks for reading my comment. The real reason- the Zionist Oligarchs, who like Sauron, ‘see all and control all,’ or at least determine most of the information we receive – through their Mainstream Media, attacked and Took-Down (as we say in Brooklyn), Harvey Weinstein, is this…
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/harvey-weinstein-miral-critics-are-167548
Weinstein supports/ed a movie that treats the Palestinian People with a touch of sympathy. Weinstein even had the temerity to criticize the Israeli/Zionist Bigwigs in quite strong terms.
His support for this Movie, and Weinstein is/was a powerful Yid, (he has partied with the top Rothschilds),
is the cause for his public Hanging.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/David+de+Rothschild+Kon+Tiki+Celebration+Luncheon+odw4Pi2oD_Ul.jpg
My Anarchist Collective is the only organized (there is a joke there somewhere), political group on the planet that is defending Weinstein. Listen: no man can rape, and or molest 850+ women in one lifetime. And Senator Franken? Lost his Senate seat for a Joke???
Yes, the Anarchist Collective almost expelled me when I suggest we defend a Yid. But, they, Weinstein & Franken, are innocent [As-Charged]. Modern day Dreyfus material.
Remember:
*If you do one good deed in your life, you still have a chance to enter heaven.
It is all about the Palestinians. The crime being committed against them is the worst single crime currently being committed. All the other imperialist crimes are related to this one.
God Bless!
Durruti
Exactly how do you propose to resolve the problem?
A princess AND a cowboy?
Now that’s revolutionary!
German Politician Mocks and Addresses Parliament in 60 Different Genders
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sR4uyMjUnDI
Hysterical: —
There is hope for humanity.
Christian values in Europe and the US have been under attack by so-called liberals, and others, ever since the end of the Second World War. The intention was to destroy the family. You destroy the family, you destroy the state. Now I wonder who benefits from this.
In Russia, on the other hand, Christianity is seeing a revival, and so are traditional family values. Putin has rebuilt more than 30.000 churches. One of the reasons the Western liberals and elites hate him.
to me as an atheist (who grew up in Serbia in 70s when religious ‘education ‘ did not exist…) – it always seemed as if it was has always been religion who actually wanted to destroy or hijack the institution and benefit of having a family.
It’s like outsourcing in a way – they trick you into calling a priest “father” (but he is not your father – you already have one – a unique one – and that’s the one you should love, respect and collaborate with – he is the one who should ideally pass on to you important lessons about objective reality, how to meaningfully achieve something – through interaction with others on equal terms – without any kind of glorified submission and Stockholm Syndrome.
They really want you to respect, fear etc an abstract ‘father’ much more so than your own father – this is kind of similar to the current degeneracy described in this article.
Also I always thought those sculptures of Madonna (I am not sure if I spell it right – the mother of God) look so perfect, wealthy, pretty etc as if to make real mothers feel inadequate (…also – her claim to have given birth without actual sex – I always thought that performed the same purpose – kind of like what celebrities – or saints – were invented for – to make you fell that you can never be as good as them – so it’s better to just give up and submit…
I agree with the article 100% – but I think the original elephant in the room (bigger than both Jews, Banksters and their bribed puppets) is religion . I always thought all the fraud, totalitarian tricks etc we are subjected to were inspired with organized religion – how to fear-monger, divide and rule.
Really enjoyed reading that. Seems so genuine.
thank you – the main problem we have nowadays is enforcing fraud and unreality in all its many forms
I agree with you a 100%.
What you are missing in your understanding is the purpose of religion and the growth of human beings as both physical and spiritual beings. The mythology of the priest is that he represents in physical form God. He shares stories and acts as a guide for the spiritual realm. These are moral values that make us more then just physical animals. Your actual physical father, teaches you how to survive as a physical human being, what to eat, to be courageous, who to trust, ect . Both are necessary for long term survival. The idea of the perfection the spiritual realm is to leave you searching for something more then just what you find in the physical world. You should be disappointed. That is the objective. You reject religion because it message has been lost. But it is not untrue, it is simply now misunderstood. For more on this read Joseph Campbell “The Hero with a Thousand faces.”
re Russian conception of American ladies, I think the Taiwanese Tomo News has a much better idea of what Americans look like.
Sheer lunacy. And not only lunacy but filth. The devil has been unchained in the West, and people have become so stupid and supine they can’t even see what’s in front of their faces.
Both Europe and the US are being destroyed, morally, culturally, financially and ethnically. And the reaction ? Pretty meek. Have the elites been that successful in controlling peoples minds ?
yes they have.
but it’s culturally specific. It’s much worse in socially disconnected cultures where the social contact has been lost and people are very materialistic, easy and cheap to bribe by numerous predatory psychopaths and psychopathic ‘cultures’ (i.e. UK/US).
In more socially connected cultures – their influence has been much weaker. Socially connective rituals, dependencies, traditions etc which evolved over centuries are still working and these robust societies are able to repair themselves. Not so the psychopath-worshiping disoriented western societies.
When I first came to Japan some 33 years ago, I could not see the value of this point. People feel tied down by obligations, which can be inflexible enough to make them neurotic, but social cohesion is valuable at any time. The elite don’t feel like they could get away with egregious displays of inequality; there is hope that in a crisis people will cooperate to everyone’s benefit. My heart grieves when I see what has happened to America.
When I look at my holiday photos – I look the happiest by far in Japan. I wondered why and I think it’s to do with the feeling that instead of pretty much everyone competing against you and trying to block you or use you in some way (as I have learned to feel in America after 12 or so years there) – in Japan i feel that everyone is actually trying to help not just you – but the society in general.
I stayed there 3 months last time I went there and had a chance to go to parties organized by locals (on an island close to Hiroshima) . There were hundreds of people and after most guest left the host and 10 or so of Japanese friends did everything they could to make life easier for everyone else – someone was washing dishes, another one was cleaning, the third one was making up futons for us to sleep, the girls were very sweet and had a great sense of humor… (there was nothing for me to do so I fixed a giant white bear skin hanging on the wall – it was starting to fall off) ..in LA, SF, DC etc – very few people would help – and everyone would be posing and forever irrationally competing against everyone else…focusing mostly on themselves and plotting how to use others in desperation.
I find Japanese culture the exact opposite of the American ‘culture’ (not really a culture but a greedy, fearful worshiping of psychopaths by confused, depressed, fearful slaves)
a good article on this subject from Zerohedge:
…”A predatory society doesn’t just mean oligarchs ripping people off financially. In a truer way, it means people nodding and smiling and going about their everyday business as their neighbours, friends, and colleagues die early deaths in shallow graves. The predator in American society isn’t just its super-rich — but an invisible and insatiable force: the normalization of what in the rest of the world would be seen as shameful, historic, generational moral failures, if not crimes, as a mundane everyday affairs not to be too worried by or troubled about…”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-25/why-were-underestimating-american-collapse
I think you under-state the case immensely. Lunacy is a euphemism. Mass psychosis better states the case.
It’s global.
I remember when I saw this originally.
Despite my fondness for novelty, kitsch and other forms of harmless, ‘arty’ individualism, the word in my head was ‘weird’.
And not in a comic/odd way.
https://youtu.be/GP5YOhQZtlA
Never thought my vague uneasiness/distaste was an early warning signal…
Elmear,
That performance is a soundtrack to the opening chapters of national psychotic trauma and breakdown into madness and violence. If Modris Eksteins had been watching he would have shaken his head and whispered “here we go again”. Mutant clowns can appear amusing from a distance. Up close is another matter. Chilling given what followed.
Merchants of Despair: Radical Environmentalists, Criminal Pseudo-Scientists, and the Fatal Cult of Antihumanism (New Atlantis Books)
A must read: from Malthus via Darwinism and fascism to climate change neoconservative.
Two quotations from David Rockefeller
“The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
“…we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States… If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
Rich narcissists are the root of much evil in the world.
I would love Bronfman, the heir of Seagrams who gave up her inheritance and who studied the pathologies of the rich, to do a case study on Rockefeller..
rockefeller is working for – and was married into – the Rothschild family – its them that are the top
2 Rockefeller google searches everyone should investigate.
rockefeller dumbing down educational system
rockefeller the chemical industry and the fda
@Azorka1861: I detest David Rockefeller’s beliefs. Nonetheless, out of fairness, that second quote is not complete and is misleading as presented. (I don’t have time now to find the original quote and provide it here. Nonetheless, it should be easily accessible.)
Lean back, wait and then see if the intellectual elite and bankers are able to hit a nail with a hammer. Without the help Nannies they can’t even raise their own children.
Well, OK.
But I wish this subject was covered in – depth.
Rants – accurate and entertaining as they may be – are simply preaching to the peanut gallery.
The seriousness of the issue deserves better.
You are absolutely correct. I posted this short stuff really because I like to “rattle the cages” of the doubleplusgoodthinking drones who consider this crimethink. But in reality you are 100% right. This is not funny, this is complex, and it does deserve a much, much deeper and longer discussion. Maybe one day I will find the energy to start it, we shall see.
Kind regards,
The Saker
You should have a hard look at PJW and his boss as well. Whilst Alex Jones covers some interesting stuff from time to time, he’s playing his viewers most of the time. PJW and Alex Jones assist with the agenda of keeping Islamophobia alive and hardly ever mention the fate of Palestinians. They’re part of the divide and conquer agenda.
Sometimes I have to tell friends that on certain subjects we are just “on the other side of the barricade”. with the younger group ( mid 40’s) I just said about the gay issue: There is a thin line between acceptance and advocacy.
On abortion: I have a sheet of herbs that women have taken for eons when the food supplies are scarce and babies can not be well nurtured.
The real issue is power—who defines what a society does and where its ultimate values lie? The thrust of the current American elite is to make people superfluous. period. The untermensch that is . The 99%.
So the Pope talking very simplistically about Satan and his lies equating him with whatever the Pope deems as just does not “get it”. Satan in the Garden was giving the lie that one can be all powerful by just eating an apple or whatever? Hello? how does that do it when you have been told not to do it. Was Eve the first experimental scientist? Yes, she was but No, the issue is that then She and He lied about it. It is about the illusory power of the Lie when confronted with the Truth. That is why in every spiritual path one needs a touchstone, a guru or whatever …up to which you put your own subjectivity. It is a tricky world out there. paradox is rife and it is only compassionate wisdom which will power your boat to pass through the wild world ocean.
Forget the Pope, seriously, when is the last time you hear a Pope say something which mattered in any meaningful way? Believe me, there is a darn good reason why the Ziomedia treats Popes as if they were rocks stars. But in the real world, Popes have been irrelevant since a long, long time…
My 2cts
The Saker
Jesuits own the Bank of America – Catholic Church USA is the second largest property owner in the US – the first is the US govenment
I bet West Point is Catholic
Hello Saker, I disagree with your generalization here. Even though I’m not a Catholic, I come from a Catholic culture, and I can understand its “the fine print”. Differences between popes make a huge difference on the ground, in places like Latin America, for instance.
The last two popes, John Paul II, and Bento whatever, were very conservative in a bad sense of the word. They wanted to preserve the structure and the old decrepit culture of the church and, for that reason, were very closely aligned with the powers that be in America and Western Europe. And here, I agree, they were very protected and celebrated by the Western MSM propaganda machine.
This present Pope, Francis I, is the real deal, and he chose his name Francis for a reason. And he does the bests he can to live up to it. Notice that nobody, ever in the history of papacy had chosen that name, had dared to choose that name.
There’s virtual “civil war” in the CC right now because of the changes that Francis wants to introduce, even if it reduces the mundane power of the church, on behalf of a return to the original message of Jesus. The American hierarchy of bishops is, mostly (not all), against him.
For a long time, I have noticed Catholics have great respect for the Orthodox church.
It’d be interesting to know what you think about documents like Laudato Si, by Pope Francis, which was much inspired by the Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew (credit was given).
The Pope may be a nice guy ans a person, but that’s all. Which person in his right mind suggests changing the Lord’s Prayer?
Indeed! One of many transgression by Francis that faithful Catholics are greatly ashamed of! But it’s so much worse, considering that Francis not only wishes to change the words of Christ’s prayer, but imagines that he can overrule Christ’s moral law against adultery!
I recommend looking up the e-book ‘The Dictator Pope’ by Marcantonio Colonna (pen-name). Something is strongly a-miss about this man.
As much as Catholics would love to see reunification with the Orthodox, I’d advise our Orthodox brothers to be wary of Francis and the current hierarchy. Especially after what has occurred to Cardinal Zen and our Catholic brethren in China.
Joao,
As a Catholic myself, I must correct your misconceptions.
First, Traditional Catholics, don’t consider John Paul II or Benedict XVI to be great Popes outside of the popularism that generally follows John Paul II by a large sway of Catholics fed by the media that surrounded him. Both were men of the Vatican II Council, which was a grave error and turning away from what the Church always was to be – a rock against the sands of worldly progress that you, Joao, seem to be swept up in.
We love what you refer to as “the structure and the old decrepit culture of the church” precisely because it is the Truth and always will be despite how evil modern men want to cause a revolution against it. In fact, both John Paul II and Benedict XVI were part of that revolution, Benedict XVI himself being a periti to the Vatican Council II and greatly regretted much of it, which is why he took measures to protect the Church’s Tradition.
it is the same reason the Russian and other Orthodox members strongly protect their Traditions, which you have to equally describe likewise as “the structure and the old decrepit culture.”
We believe we are the TRUE Religion, with Revelation granted to us by God, which NEVER CHANGES. Mankind has not progressed, it has been in a constant decline since Eden, for which the Church and the Sacrifice of God’s Only Begotten Son are the only means of reversal and salvation. Which means that every other religion is false. Especially that modern secular humanism that is the doctrine of every nation state today. And thus it is no mystery why they conspire to change, alter and change the Church. Nothing new to history.
If the Catholics were “very closely aligned with the powers that be in America and Western Europe” then this is just a natural occurance as a consequence of history. Who else were the Catholics to ally with? Nazi Germany? The Soviet Union? Maoist China? Islamic nations? Though we see how that has turned out given every Western Nation, as evidenced by some of the topics Paul Joseph Watson brings up, rebels against all manner of Christian morality and the very image of God.
And your claim that John Paul II or Benedict XVI “were very protected and celebrated by the Western MSM propaganda machine” is laughable on its face, considering John Paul II in his latter days was heavily criticized for not being ‘progressive’ enough on sins of contraception, abortion, and homosexuality etc. And Benedict XVI was constantly hounded primarily for his ‘conservatism’ and was routinely raked through the coals during the heights of the sex abuse scandals.
And thus given your poor informed views of Catholicism, naturally you’ve fallen for the actual mainstream media promoted darling – Francis I – celebrated by the LGBT rags and liberal mainstream media who recognize one of their own. His ‘humility’ and taking of the name of St. Francis is a facade. There is an e-book on Amazon right now called ‘The Dictator Pope’ which is making lots of waves. Professor Michael Chossodovsky also sounded the alarm about Francis’ past on Global Research dot ca, called ‘Washington’s Pope.’ There have recently been declassified American documents indicating US interference in the election of John XXIII and we likely suspect similar involvement with regards to Francis’ election, Benedict’s resignation, and the coincidental number of globalists who surround him and enter in and out of the Vatican form Geoffrey Sachs to other Soros operatives who are rallying around this false image of Francis who touts all their chicanery from Climate Change theft and other globalist initiatives. Allegedly the Vatican under him was also funnelling money to the Hillary Clinton campaign. Faithful Catholics would love the US to stop investigating Russia and turn its eyes towards the Vatican, which we have clearly been sounding the alarms for years as being taken over by Communist-sympathizers and modernist heretics, and homosexual cabals.
Laudato Si is a document contrary to the Teachings of Christ’s Church which takes emphasis away from the salvation of men towards a pagan-leaning earth worship, authored by globalists. If I were the Greek Orthodox Patriarch, I’d consider it an insult to be credited with it, unless of course Patriarch Bartholomew is likewise a collaborator with George Soros and his ilk. Feel free to look up criticisms of Laudato Si online.
Currently Francis just abandoned the faithful Chinese Catholics to their Communist overlords, and is trying to destroy the entire Church’s moral edifice in order to accommodate the sin of adultery in a heretical document called Amoris Letitia. It is clear, after many warnings that he is highly suspect of being a formal heretic, which means that he potentially no longer holds the Catholic Faith and therefore ceases to be Pope. These are apocalyptic events, no doubt indicated by various Catholic prophecies and the hidden 3rd Secret of Fatima.
I encourage you to search for the truth, and see behind the veil of Francis. He is not what he appears to be. God have mercy on us.
The last time the Popes said anything that mattered was prior to John XXIII.
John XXIII refused to release the 3rd Secret of Fatima, and set off the Vatican Council II, and invited all manner of mondernists and heretics there, including willing to reach an agreement with the Soviets that they would not condemn Communism, for the sake of inviting the schismatic Russian Orthodox to participate along with other Protestants.
The purpose being, to change entirely the Catholic Church’s orientation of its past to one that would seek a false union and fellowship with mankind that would adopt the gentler approach. An approach that has been an abysmal failure, and the only reason one can imagine that the Catholic clergy still hold to it today is a) insanity, b) they intend to destroy the Church, c) their guilt for their complicity of involvement with the Council is unbearable for them, d) due to poor formation, they are badly confused as was intended by the designs of the enemy.
According to the Mother of God, the Papacy and the Catholic Church still have a role to play, and are the last hold-outs to the trends that the modern world is afflicted with, starting with Adultery.
Unlike the Catholics, the Russian Orthodox tolerate adulterous remarriages and give the Body and Blood of Christ to such people.
This is an error that now is being implemented into the Catholic Church, alongside other initiatives, by Francis I, who is manifestly a formal heretic and has therefore deposed himself; or Francis has always been an anti-Pope, assuming Benedict’s strange diarchy resignation is judged to be invalid. The Catholic Church now finding itself in the same situation as during the Arian Heresy and the Western Schism of the late 1300s with 3 claimants to the Papacy.
All this is in accordance with Scripture and the End Times, where naturally we would expect the Dragon to cast down a 3rd of the stars with its tail. Interpreted traditionally to refer to the members of the clergy who should be the guiding lights of the people. Many Catholic prophecies dictate such times and events.
Thus, contrary to your claims, Mr. Saker, I must state that God and the Queen of Heaven do indeed see the relevance of the Papacy, even as the world doesn’t, something the enemies of Christ and the Holy Theotokos have been trying to destroy and eradicate for a long time.
The obvious next logical step being – If there is no need for a Pope. Then we should start asking ourselves what need is there for a Patriarch or Metropolitan either?
Thus why the orders from God to His Church at Fatima demand that the Pope and all those bishops in union with him, consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
The consequences for failing or delaying to do so being – the spread of the errors of Communism, even to America, and a coming world war with Russia, and the annihilation of entire nations form the face of the Earth.
Let those who attend to wisdom heed the words, warnings and messages of the Holy Mother of God.
I support defying the established in all matters of existence. I prefer to question everything, even our very nature. I don’t feel well within conservatism neither I think it’s good for mankind. Now that doesn’t mean doing it in favor of the hidden agenda of some group. So, while I favor this new, weird, shocking expressions, I try to be cautious not to be caught into something hidden.
This reminds me of Germaine Greer from Australia who in the 1960’s, just prior to moving to the UK said, “Now that cloning is possible men will become redundant.”
Remember Karl Marx’s old mate Friedrich Engels? He wrote the book; ‘The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State’ back in 1884′ And just and the ‘Communist Manifesto’ created a major uprising in Europe in 1848, Engels work preceded the ‘Suffragettes’ movement in the UK and elsewhere, demanding the right for women to vote. Strangely enough Women had the right to vote in South Australia in 1864 (Married women with property)
From Suffragettes to Feminism was a natural progression, and what we have today is simply feminism on ego, without any consideration of the natural consequences., or how to destroy your society in one easy lesson.
Paul is nuts but in a good FU way. He is off the mark by focusing on the symptons and not the head of the zionist snake. However, he does expose the sheer absurdity of the masses to allow the lamest of the lame MSM to propagandize the most incoherent narratives as truths.
The problem is the incoherence – an incoherence that only now works with the most mentally ill and narcissistic of the soy milk gluten Oprah fart cloud crowd. The rest keep quiet as the narrative stalls.
The gender bender identity politics is a dead end and the last thread for the neo-liberal front – it has already cracked under the Trump tidal wave in the US. Now the only next step forward for the west is a total collapse as the 99% is crushed regardless of their adheasion to the neo-liberal mantra.
The real story is the resistance in Syria – the cataylst for the ascending of the east and the subsequent elimination of the entity and its transnationals.
Hi Saker – wow that top set of pics sure is pertinent – and she is so sweet – Russia knows what a sweet woman looks like for sure – I can’t bear to look at the European one – how embarrassing – like Bradley aka Chelsea Manning – I wonder if Manning is an op ?
The monster in the middle is again a perfect example of that sister – wow – yuck –
I saw a CBC special on wildlife yesterday called “Mommy Wild” and it even puts the male animals down – lions elephants and orangutans – it laughs at them as though they are totally awkward – it was narrated by David Suzuki – a guy from my home town –
But males elephants are so cool – they are more solitary – as mature adults – and follow – taking up the rear – the herds made up of aunties, sisters, mamas grandmamas and babies of both sexes – – the lions mingle with their offspring – as humans do too – but the males can be quite dangerous to the young cubs –
I think we have to come to understand and love the male persona – of any species – not ridicule it because its not as group oriented – like what David Suzuki did in this CBC special – its tone was unmistakable – males are BAAAAD
I suppose in the human arena – young males congregate like bachelor herds — and play fight and so forth – but truly mature males for instance – really are quite fine with their own company – –
Zebras are just generally unbelievable – but that’s another story
I guess you know that PJW was approving of Trump’s declaration on Jerusalem – I’m feeling like its time for me to boycott – PJW – Alex Jones – and even SGT Report and all those fools following Qanon – I used to like PJW until it was pointed out to me how much money he’s making doing what he’s doing – which is distracting from Israel….I think those guys are on Israel’s – and by definition – Trump’s payroll –
Are computers turning into bigots? Machines that learn to think for themselves are revolutionising the workplace. But there’s growing evidence they are acquiring racial and class prejudices too
By John Naish for the Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 01:39, 25 January 2018 | UPDATED: 03:45, 25 January 2018
Recently, my application for insurance for a classic car I’d bought was refused. It was a first for me and when I inquired why, I was told that the insurance company was concerned that I associate with ‘high-value individuals’.
I don’t, but even if I did, how could this possibly impact my access to insurance? The broker kindly investigated on my behalf and discovered that a robot — or more accurately an ‘automated decision-making machine’ — used by the insurance company had scoured the internet and discovered that in the distant past I’d been the motoring editor of a national newspaper.
I was no wiser as to why this might suddenly have made me a liability. ‘You might give Jeremy Clarkson a lift, have an accident in which he would be injured, and it could cost millions,’ my broker explained. It was an utterly bizarre line of reasoning. I’m no friend of Clarkson, I complained. To no avail.
The robot knew better, its logic deciding that my time as a motoring editor obviously connected me to Jeremy Clarkson, the multi-millionaire former presenter of Top Gear and the nation’s best known petrolhead who writes newspaper columns and whose name is all over the internet.
Now, not only am I designated as a risk to insure, I have ‘refused insurance’ against my name. (And I’m a ‘friend’ of Clarkson, to boot.) It’s an amusing story to dine out on, but also a sinister indication of what is happening as similar robots rapidly assume control over important aspects of our lives.
Take my friend who applied to NatWest, where he had banked for 30 years, for a small loan.
The financial adviser was apologetic: my friend would have to pay a huge rate of interest, because he had been categorised as ‘high risk’.
But why? The bank knew he always kept a healthy balance in his account and had been mortgage-free for years.
That’s the trouble, said the advisor: because my friend didn’t have a recent credit history, the decision-making robot had concluded that the only possible reason was that he was too dodgy to be trusted.
My friend said he’d try elsewhere. No point, said the adviser. Everyone uses decision-making robots now. They will all say the same thing.
And he was right. Human bank employees are no longer allowed to use common sense to over-rule the robots.
Not only are they being used to decide our access to insurance, loans and whether or not we are a decent credit risk, but they may also be influencing our employment prospects, medical treatment and tax affairs.
Even more ominously, as I shall explain, such robots may soon be ruling on whether police patrol your area, and if you are a potential criminal.
So what exactly are these robots and how do they work?
Automated decision-making engines are super-sophisticated computer programs that run on algorithms — vastly complex sets of mathematical rules — in ways that humans cannot control, let alone understand.
Once they have been programmed for a particular use — in banks, employment agencies, insurance firms, hospitals or marketing companies, for example — the robots become self-teaching, using swathes of accumulated data to make their own rulings on the lives of individuals.
Even experts in the field admit they don’t know how these ‘deep-learning’ robots reach their conclusions.
But there is already evidence to suggest that the robots can rapidly become ‘bigoted’ or ‘irrational’, making decisions that may blight people for decades.
In May, new laws come into force across Europe to try to rein back the march of the machines by making them — or rather the firms that use them — more accountable: we will be able to ask how and why robots have reached particular decisions about our lives.
But legal and scientific experts warn that this legislation will prove ineffective and inadequate — which is why I find it even more worrying that British police forces are also starting to rely on this sort of technology.
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If anybody invents some really breakthrough technology computers will still be stupid machines. All the hype about artificial intelligence hides this fact. Computers maybe useful for pattern recognition, calculations and many more things, but that’s all. They are still programmed by humans and therefore include all the wrong assumptions of humans. The models used to evaluate the risk of the insured or borrower are based on statistics. A computer basically does what a human would do as well: comparing some variables of known cases and deducing that the person acts in the same way as those whose data is the basis for the variables.
People as well as machines are pretty stupid. You can try if for yourself. Dress in worn-out clothes and go into the nearest car-dealership of some exclusive brand. Probably hardly anyone of the sales personnel will bother talking to you. Then change your clothes and dress into your best suit and go into another car dealership. The probability of someone salesperson to approach you will be higher. It’s all about probability. Even this example doesn’t consider that sales personnel isn’t a homogeneous group. That’s the crux with those computer based models and the “artificial intelligence” as well. No human and no machine can estimate the future behavior, etc. of a human.
Humans should neither believe in money, nor in technology. Technology is fallible (some more and some less).
“: because my friend didn’t have a recent credit history, the decision-making robot had concluded that the only possible reason was that he was too dodgy to be trusted.”
This is standard operating procedure, AFAIK.
If you don’t have debts and can be seen to be paying them off, you don’t have a credit history.
It is nuts, but it is nothign new. It seems inevitable that robots would be programmed the same way the humans have always been.
At any rate, here in the USA, you will have to take out a “credit-establishing” loan before you can get a credit card, not to mention a mortgage or other loan. Perhaps the friend should have characterized his loan request as a “credit-establishing” one.
Katherine
A very bizarre and disturbing vision of the world for those of us who have never borrowed and whose credit histories are sealed to boot. But on the other hand, if that is the reality, do we even exist in some sense? A chilling thought.
PJW will not touch zionism. Someone like Mark Dice has, Dice has in the past dared to take a swing at them. Commentators like Saker are best, they confront the Z problem but don’t rant and rave about ‘The JQ’. Moderation is good. But Watson is apparently pulling big $$, I would hate to think this is his motivator instead of the theory of soft red pilling.
They medicate our women. The pill turns women into whores. What I mean is women are consuming male hormones and so they are sexed up when on the hunt for a permanent manin their life. Once they have captured the object of their desires and move on to wanting to breed they pop off the pill taking and turn into aliens to the men they have married. The male has been duped by a medicated sexed up by hormone pill taking fraud.
While I agree with the premise that the `gender´ dialog has a purpose, (like the consumerism before it) to break down traditional structures of family and community, for a purpose of political control, why does this fellow deliver his critique in such a gay way? I´m all for freedom of intimacy in private as persons wish. Growing up in the Silicon Valley, I saw lots of sexual experimentation, license, if you will. Just like the divorce culture, there are many social and emotional downsides over time. The idea that one´s sexual expression is private has gone by the wayside. The propaganda machines have gone into overdrive selling confused adolescents gender bending nonsense, while polluting them with hundreds of pesticides and herbicides which have a gender bending effect, (as well as producing autistic symptoms, which are being normalised). Why are we allowing the poisoning of our citizens? How have we been sold on this genocidal path? Populations have shown to shrink when women are educated, we don´t need to have social policies that promote the killing of one´s own fetus. Mostly, this video shows how the mainstream media has become a propaganda mouthpiece. Thankfully, more people are seeing through this charade every day.
Down on the bottom line: the more equal society the more likely men are doing “men job” and females doing “female jobs”. It’s amazing how poorly Left Wing has understood biological facts of mtDNA and Y-DNA and evolution biology. Has our education system really collapsed or does it mean anything in ?
There is also one thing people don’t want to hear: evolution favors strongly religious cultural enclaves and rejects atheists, agnostics and secular folks.
Pretty doubtful that it is always true, but cohesive society has advantages over fragmented from a survival point of view.
So you’re saying that superstitions can promote social cohesion? That’s true but that is not the only thing that can do it. Ever heard of pagan hordes?
What i don’t like in picture is demonizing Mrs Serena Williams. We should never dehumanize physically strong women. Of course doping is another issue here.
I have no problem with strong women, both intellectually (Maria Zakharova) or physically (Maria Sharapova). What I do have a problem with is self-evidently doped up freaks.
I’m sorry, but listening to Paul Joseph Watson is a big turnoff for me. The guy comes across as one loud arrogant gasbag. He never provides any answers about anything. It seems to me he has only one mission in life: to further divide people, specializing in hot button issues. Goes on endlessly about the evil Muslims, while Zionism is destroying the world. You will never hear him criticize Zionism, Israel or Jews – ever. He doesn’t even believe in Jewish influence in the Media or anywhere. “There is no evidence” according to him. If you raise that question you would be labelled a nazi or a white supremacist in his eyes.
But don’t take my words for it. Here he is, Paul Joseph Watson in his own words; (68 sec.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26W-AQl2uZ4
Rumours has it that PJW makes good money. It would be interesting to follow that money…
totally – he’s on a payroll and laughing all the way to the bank – I heard Alex Jones say one day that his account now holds $55 million
Let’s see…zionazi, gay and makes loads of money promoting divisiveness. Great role model for the kids to look up to.
Divide and rule indeed an individual that is unsure of himself is less likely to rise up against his masters
How many gays took part in revolutions throughout history, how many effimate men picked up a rifle?
why do you think they promote the multicultural agenda so much? A divided society on ethnic lines is less able to organise themselves.
Considering the amount of closet gays, probably lots of them have participated in revolutions and other violent conflicts. It may be pretty difficult to recognize each and every gay, since some of them may act like women in men’s jobs. Some women try to be tougher than the stronger sex.
Wasn’t Alexander the Great gay or bisexual?
What about Achilles and was it Ajax?
I don’t think (that is, I don’t know of evidence that) homosexuality per se reduces the ability to fight or be a warrior. In fact, surely many men have fought to protect a comrade he loved on one or more levels.
There are lots of kinds of homosexuals, just as there are lots of kinds of lesbians. So I read/hear. That is my imporession. There is no doubt that many homosexuals are seductive and are very attractive to woman and others hold zero attraction for women.
Katherine
The first couple of years when PJW he started out (seems like long ago) he would have some good reporting once in a while. Not very often, even then. Along the way, he must have learned the beauty of increasingly moronic simplifications, and the the sex-appeal of speaking in the permanently worked up style exhibited by chiwawas. Now, judging by one of his latest videos, he is at the level of promoting “scientific” studies that prove how political orientation correlates with beauty and sex-appeal. Conservativism lends its bearers a definite attraction. The moment they start being affected by the virus of “communism” and kindred diseases, that is when repulsive ugliness begins to take hold of their features, an irreversible process.
Well, I find it rather offputting to have to put up with this idiot’s mug on this site, so maybe he has a point about the correlation of physical appeal with mental traits, but not the way he thinks. It is not really political views that affect the looks of a person. What really affects it is intelligence. Stupidity, especially when combined with arrogance or foppishness, is extremely offputting, a kind of halitosis of the mind. This guy became a youtoobimbo a long time ago.
No doubt Paul Joseph Watson is a mama’s boy- why would he act like this otherwise?
I get the impression that this whole phenomen could be effectively analysed within the discipline of Political Theology.
Particularly with respect to nature as such.