The “XXVIth NATO Party Conference” in Warsaw (a commentary)

So the much advertised NATO summit in Warsaw finally took place. It was a total success, at least if the criterion is that the outcome matched the expectations:

Poroshenko and Nadezhda Savchenko were invited and treated like a respected guest
Russia was condemned for her “aggressions” in Georgia, Crimea and the Ukraine
The Poles plastered Warsaw with posters saying “ACHTUNG RUϟϟIA”
The Balts each got one NATO battalion to deter the Russian Bear
Russia was condemned for not abiding by the Minks2 Agreement
Enough hot air was released to worsen global warming by at least 10 degrees

Frankly, I don’t feel like commenting on all this idiocy. Besides, all these pseudo-decisions never were the true purpose of this summit. This summit had a totally different objective and that objective too was fully achieved.

The real purpose of the summit was to force each western political leader to chose between reality and ideology. And they all made the correct choice, of course. They categorically rejected reality and enthusiastically embraced ideology.

This is why Russia was accused of not complying with an agreement she is not even a part to.

This is why Russia was accused of “aggression” against Georgia even though even the EU concluded that Georgia had started the war

This is why a non-existing Russian threat was denounced

This is why the Russian armed forces were declared deterred by a few NATO battalions

This is why the Russian invasion of the Donbass was denounced

This is why the 100% legal referendum in Crimea was completely ignored

The unanimous determination of all the western leaders to ignore reality and to firmly and publicly hold on and proclaim ideological nonsense as truthful was, in reality, the expected goal of the summit.

AngloZionists love to “send messages” and here several messages were sent loud and clear.

Message to Russia: you dared to oppose us and you thought that being in the right might help you. Well, Russia, screw you Russia, and screw reality! You either are with us (i.e. under our control), or you will be treated like a pariah.

Message to the European people: least any of you consider defying us, we are showing you a united front. A united from of the parasitic superstructure ruling the EU on behalf of the local 1%er comprador elites of Russia and on behalf of the AngloZionist Empire. So don’t even think of being independent, free or any other such nonsense. We run the planet and you obey.

Message to the rest of the planet: don’t even think of joining or even supporting Russia because if you do, we will snap you like a twig. We run the planet and we make and break anybody.

Last but not least,

Message to themselves: we are in control, we will prevail, the Russians will have to back down, we are invulnerable.

I would submit that this last message might be the most important of them all. Because, of course, the AngloZionist leaders are afraid. Afraid mainly of Russia, of course, but even more by what Russia represents. They are afraid of a Dollar which is sustained by nothing, not oil and not even USN aircraft carriers. They are afraid by the growing realization that less and less people out there are afraid of them. They are afraid by countries such as Russia, Iran or China daring to openly declare that they will follow another economic and civilizational model. But more than anything else they are terrified by the growing realization that “their own people” (at least theoretically) hate and despise them.

The most pathetic thing about all this is how the AngloZionists are misreading the Russians. From a Russian cultural point of view, everything the West and NATO has been doing as signs of weakness. Why would a strong alliance need to engage in meaningless threats (NATO battalions or ABM systems)? Why would a strong alliance seek safety in numbers? Why would a strong alliance act is if reality did not exist? From a Russian point of view all that saber-rattling and grandstanding amount to a gigantic admission weakness and they are totally unimpressed. And they are not shy about expressing their contempt for what they see as a pathetic display of incompetence by a clueless western leadership.

That is not to say that the Russians are not worried. They are. Very. Because they also understand that for all their pathetic lack of political vision and even basic professionalism, the AngloZionists are still very dangerous. It does not take a great deal of intelligence to trigger a nuclear war. So while the Russians are now openly contemptuous of the Empire, they still realize that it is precisely the lack of competence of the West which will require a tremendous amount of caution and patience from the Russian leadership to “softly land” the Empire without triggering a planetary nuclear war.

You could say that Russia fears the US/NATO/EU weakness a great deal more than she fear the US/NATO/EU strength.

Finally, many Russians realize that the Western civilization is as discredited, morally bankrupt and, basically, dead, as the Soviet civilization was by the late 1980s. There are no more “western values”, at least not in any quality other then as the object of jokes and disgusted sneers. Everybody pretends, but nobody really believes any of it. All the grand conceptual building composed of notions such as ‘democracy’, ‘human rights’, ‘freedom’, ‘justice’ has come crushing down and is now beyond repair. The good news is that this collapse is not final, and just as Russia eventually re-discovered herself after 2000, so will the West, both in the USA and the Europe. I can easily imaging the people of the West eventually turning back to their ancient historical roots, but they will do that in a new, modern way. Just like the Russia of 2000-2016 is not the Russia of before 1917, so the new West will emerge as something new, but with roots in the distant past. But before that happens the West will have to undergo a painful and very dangerous process of disintegration similar to what the Soviet Union went through between roughly 1980 and 2000.

Dmitry Orlov is absolutely correct. The collapse of the West is inevitable and the study of the collapse of the Soviet Union yields many interesting lessons.

But for the time being we are stuck in our current reality. A world split in two with, on one hand, a dying, delusional and weak Empire and, on the other, pretty much the rest of mankind. In this dying and unstable world, the NATO summit in Warsaw played the same role as the XXVIth Congress of the CPSU in the Soviet Union in 1981: a touching show of unity in the face of an inevitable collapse.

If we remember what happened to the USSR and Russia in the following two decades we can only conclude that we are about to enter a most difficult and dangerous period of history.

The Saker

pogohere on July 11, 2016 · at 8:36 pm EST/EDT

Michael Flynn is more than a valued adviser to the presumptive GOP nominee. He’s also a potential VP candidate.

The growing chatter about his key role in the Trump campaign coincides with his new book, “The Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies,” scheduled for release July 12. A vice presidential trial balloon certainly would drive interest in the text, and possibly juice sales.

He teamed up on the book with Michael Ledeen, a prominent member of a group of scholars and former government officials that helped shape the views of many top national security leaders in the George W. Bush administration.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/…

Michael Ledeen

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Work in the United States[edit]

In the early 1980s, Ledeen appeared before the newly established Senate Subcommittee on Security and Terrorism, alongside former CIA director William Colby, author Claire Sterlingand former Newsweek editor Arnaud de Borchgrave. Both Ledeen and de Borchgrave worked for the Center for Strategic and International Studies at Georgetown University at the time.[6]All four testified that they believed the Soviet Union had provided for material support, training and inspiration for various terrorist groupings.[7]

Ledeen was involved in the Iran–Contra affair as a consultant of National Security Advisor Robert C. McFarlane. Ledeen vouched for Iranian intermediary Manucher Ghorbanifar. In addition, he met with Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres, officials of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the Central Intelligence Agency to arrange meetings with high-ranking Iranian officials, whereby U.S supported Iranians would be given weapons by Israel, and would proceed to negotiate with Hizbollah for the release of hostages in Lebanon.[8] Ledeen’s own version of the events is published in his book, Perilous Statecraft.[9]

Yellowcake forgery allegations[edit]

Main article: Niger uranium forgeries

According to a September 2004 article by Joshua Micah Marshall, Laura Rozen, and Paul Glastris in Washington Monthly:[10]

“The first meeting occurred in Rome in December, 2001. It included Franklin, Rhode, and another American, the neoconservative writer and operative Michael Ledeen, who organized the meeting. (According to UPI, Ledeen was then working for Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith as a consultant.) Also in attendance was Ghorbanifar and a number of other Iranians.”

Colleagues Andrew McCarthy and Mark R. Levin have defended Ledeen, writing[11]

Up until now, the fiction recklessly spewed by disgruntled intelligence-community retirees and their media enablers—some of whom have conceded that the claim is based on zero evidence—has been that Michael had something to do with the forged Italian documents that, according to the Left’s narrative, were the basis for President Bush’s “lie” in the 2003 State of the Union Address that Saddam Hussein had obtained yellowcake uranium (for nuclear-weapons construction) in Africa.

Iraq War advocacy[edit]

Regarding the “pre-emptive” invasion of Iraq, in 2002 Ledeen criticized the views of former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft, writing:[12]

He fears that if we attack Iraq “I think we could have an explosion in the Middle East. It could turn the whole region into a cauldron and destroy the War on Terror.”

One can only hope that we turn the region into a cauldron, and faster, please. If ever there were a region that richly deserved being cauldronized, it is the Middle East today. If we wage the war effectively, we will bring down the terror regimes in Iraq, Iran, and Syria, and either bring down the Saudi monarchy or force it to abandon its global assembly line to indoctrinate young terrorists.

That’s our mission in the war against terror.

Ledeen specifically called for the deposition of Saddam Hussein’s regime by force in 2002:

So it’s good news when Scowcroft comes out against the desperately needed and long overdue war against Saddam Hussein and the rest of the terror masters.[12]

and:

Question #2: Okay, well if we are all so certain about the dire need to invade Iraq, then when do we do so?

Ledeen: Yesterday[13]

Ledeen’s statements prior to the start of the Iraq war such as “desperately needed and long overdue war against Saddam Hussein” and “dire need to invade Iraq” caused Glenn Greenwald to label his later statement that he “opposed the military invasion of Iraq before it took place” to be an “outright lie”.[14] However, Ledeen maintains these statements are consistent since: “I advocated—as I still do—support for political revolution in Iran as the logical and necessary first step in the war against the terror masters.”[15]

Views on Iran[edit]

Although Ledeen was in favor of invading Iraq, he also believes that Iran should have been the first priority in the “war on terror.”[16] The New York Times describes Ledeen’s views as “everything traces back to Tehran”.[16] Ledeen’s phrase, “faster, please” has become a signature meme in Ledeen’s writings (it is currently the title of his blog on the Pajamas Mediawebsite) and is often referenced by neoconservative writers advocating a more forceful and broader “war on terror.” In 1979, Ledeen was one of the first Western writers to argue thatAyatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was a “clerical fascist”, and that while it was legitimate to criticize the Shah’s regime, if Khomeini seized power in Iran the Iranian people would suffer an even greater loss of freedom and women would be deprived of political and social rights. He presently believes that “No one in the West has yet supported Iranian democratic organizations” and that “aggressive support for those Iranians who wish to be free” would most likely work in ending the clerical government.[17]

According to Justin Raimondo, Ledeen “holds up Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright as patsies for Khomeini—who supposedly believed that the Ayatollah overthrew Shah Reza Pahlavibecause the Iranian government was ‘excessively repressive and intolerant.’ While it would not do to come right out and deny the savagery of the Shah’s legendary SAVAK secret police, Ledeen informs us that, under the monarch’s beneficent rule, ‘Iran had become too modern, too tolerant—especially of women and of other religious faiths—and too self-indulgent. The shah had Westernized Iran’—except, perhaps, in his prisons, where the ancient methods of torture were routinely employed on dissidents of all sorts.”[18]

Ledeen is currently against both an invasion of Iran or air-strikes within the country.[17][19] He has argued that the latter may eventually become necessary if negotiations with the Iranian government fail, but it would only be the least bad option of many options and it would lead to many negative unforeseen consequences.[19] The New York Times has called Ledeen’s skepticism towards military action against Iran surprising given his opposition to the regime.[16] In October 2007, Ledeen argued that:

“Those who believe that I am part of some “hawkish gang” just haven’t noticed that I am opposed to invasion or bombing the nuclear facilities. My fear is that, by failing to promote a non-violent democratization of Iran, we make large-scale violence much more likely.”

“In any event, time will tell, and I share the fear of most commenters [sic] that we will indeed arrive at a horrible choice between Iran with the bomb, or bomb Iran, as Sarkozy and Kouchner have put it. And if that happens, it will demonstrate a terrible failure on the part of the West, including the United States, to craft a serious Iran policy lo these many years.”[17]

Controversial theories[edit]

Ledeen also believed that Iran is the main backer of the insurgency in Iraq and even supported the al-Qaida network formerly led by al-Zarqawi despite its declaration of jihad againstShi’ite Muslims.[20] He claimed that German and Italian court documents showed Zarqawi created a European terrorist network while based in Tehran.[20]

Ledeen was a board member of the “Coalition for Democracy in Iran” (CDI), founded by Morris Amitay, a former Executive Director of American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). Ledeen had also been part of the board of the U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon. According to the Washington Post, quoted by Asia Times, he was the only full-time international affairs analyst regularly consulted by Karl Rove, George W. Bush’s closest advisor[21]

In a 2003 column entitled “A Theory,” Ledeen outlined a possibility that France and Germany, both NATO allies of the United States, “struck a deal with radical Islam and with radical Arabs” to use “extremism and terrorism as the weapon of choice” to weaken the United States. He stated, “It sounds fanciful, to be sure,” but that, “If this is correct, we will have to pursue the war against terror far beyond the boundaries of the Middle East, into the heart of Western Europe. And there, as in the Middle East, our greatest weapons are political: the demonstrated desire for freedom of the peoples of the countries that oppose us.”[22] See also: Eurabia

Jonah Goldberg, Ledeen’s colleague at National Review, coined the term “Ledeen Doctrine” in a 2002 column. This tongue-in-cheek “doctrine” is usually summarized as “Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business,” which Goldberg remembered Ledeen saying in an early 1990s speech.[23]

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108 Comments

Richard Cley on July 10, 2016 · at 8:52 pm EST/EDT

A very optimistic look at things in my opinion.

The AngloZionist west will just keep printing fantasy money for its fantasy armaments industry and its officially mostly gay army.

In the UK women are now allowed to fight in the front line in regular army units which spells the end of cohesion within their military.

The ‘end’ will take a long time and the Jews will survive by hook and by crook using the US election as the model.

Russia transformed in only 20 years and rejuvenated in another 15 with a series of patriotic leaders. It was the one thing that kept Russia together, its patriotism.

Not one western leader is patriotic. The west is run by non indigenous elites who peddle fear and are loathed for it by most of the natives.

No Saker you are misguided. Russia survived because her leaders were patriots.

Here in the west patriots are victimised, thrown out of their jobs and prosecuted before being sent to prison.

AngloZionists are not patriots and what you hope for will never happen. The last true patriot in the west was Hitler, the rest are all banker’s shills, alcoholic paedophiles and gamblers.
- Anonymous on July 10, 2016 · at 11:59 pm EST/EDT
  
  @ Richard Cley
  
  “The ‘end’ will take a long time and the Jews will survive by hook and by crook using the US election as the model”
  
  I fully concur with that statement. The end of the Azion Empire is being predicted with tedious regularity and promoted as if it is about to occur by dint of the expectation of its occurrence, that is, wishful thinking. I would like to know if ever there was an empire that collapsed on its own from the contradictions of its internal dynamics.
  
  In a similar vein, it is being said ad nauseam since 200 years ago that capitalism’s recurring crisis of boom and bust herald its imminent demise.
  
  The Azion Empire is the embodiment of and extreme form of capitalism, so much so that the US variety has already entered the fascist model, namely a state run by monopolistic corporations or cartels and the vassal EU is also following that model.
  
  Marx’s historical materialism assumes the inevitability of the collapse of capitalism from within, although in later years he recognized that socio-political conflict is also necessary to bring it about.
  
  Socio-political conflict is being controlled or neutralized by the capitalist state’s monopoly of violence through the military, militarized police forces, draconian laws under the guise of “fighting terrorism”. Social dissent is also controlled by laws, education systems and mass media.
  
  Capitalism is the fuel of the Azion Emprire. To bring it to an end you need to starve it of its fuel.
  
  Kim
  - Helen on July 11, 2016 · at 1:44 am EST/EDT
    
    @ Kim,
    
    ” I would like to know if ever there was an empire that collapsed on its own from the contradictions of its internal dynamics.”
    
    The short answer is that, according to historians, they all do.
    
    Hundreds of books have been written on the dynamics of societal collapse, from Gibbon on the decline of the Roman Empire to Orlov on the Soviet collapse.
    
    One of the most comprehensive in overview is Tainter’s ‘Collapse of Complex Societies’ as it covers social fault lines that contribute to decline as well as internal and external threats.
    - Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 2:53 am EST/EDT
      
      @ Helen
      
      Thank you for your reply. I have read enough historicism about the fall of empires (mind you the meaning of “empire” itself is very problematic) to accept that there were internal components in the decline of central power and authority in many cases. However, the common and dominant factor in all of them is the external influence. Besides, you can’t isolate one from the other, and the fall does not take place in isolation.
      
      Using the most recent examples, starting from the last European empires:
      Portuguese (1974) independence armed rebellions in the biggest colonies heavily supported by adjoining countries, socialists states (mainly USSR).
      French (1962) Algeria and other African colonies, (1954) Indochina – independence armed rebellions supported by outside powers, namely socialist states.
      British (1960s) Starting with India in 1947, WWII was the death-knell of the empire. Also insurrections in Malaya, Kenya, as above.
      
      I could go on and on back to the Ottoman, Byzantine and Roman empires (and beyond) and they all collapsed from external stress, not internal changes/conflict/economic or political model.
      
      Kim
      - Helen on July 11, 2016 · at 3:27 am EST/EDT
        
        @Kim,
        
        ……..which is why Tainter is so interesting.
        
        He is an anthropologist as well as an historian and “examines the collapse of Maya and Chacoan civilizations, and of the Western Roman Empire, in terms of network theory, energy economics and complexity theory. Tainter argues that sustainability or collapse of societies follow from the success or failure of problem-solving institutions and that societies collapse when their investments in social complexity and their “energy subsidies” reach a point of diminishing marginal returns. He recognizes collapse when a society involuntarily sheds a significant portion of its complexity.”
        
        Basically, they rot from the inside. That internal rot then allows both internal and external threats, that previously have been easily shrugged off, to do terminal damage.
        
        It seems inevitable to me, as a older person, a parallel to the human aging process. :(
        
        Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 4:07 am EST/EDT
        
        @ Helen
        
        Please see comment further down (for wide margins)
        
        Kim
        
        Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 11:03 am EST/EDT
        
        “societies collapse when their investments in social complexity and their “energy subsidies” reach a point of diminishing marginal returns”
        in German, marginal return is called Grenznutzen.
        the point of Grenznutzen has long been reached by consumist capitalism.
        I think it had already been reached at the moment when that all-overriding PC and IT wave came over us, i.e. at the beginning of 1990s.
        what a “goodluck” to the West that the Iron Curtain fell exactly at this time.
        Had the East Bloc remained “stubbornly” stable,
        that industry-induced PC craze would not have saved Western Economy from having to adapt to Reality on Earth i.e. to collapse and shrink-to-fit.
        Now even the IT and telecom craze is subsiding… Everyone has his smartphone and several other electronic communication devices and who needs more? Most “innovations” in this part of Industry, as GoogleGlass, are failing to attract customers. there is no NEED for them! And the customers will soon realise that they even dont need much of what they already have… they will re-learn to MEET AND TALK for communication, instead of only typing and making photos. And then the Colossus on Clay Feet will fall. I will stand by, then, and clap my hands as loud as I can!
        NB I hope that Russia really has a second administration behind Ural which works with analogous tech, with paper files and writing machines, and not with computers. If it has not – God help them!
      - Macon Richardson on July 11, 2016 · at 9:27 am EST/EDT
        
        A simple note: All societies face continual external stress. The critical factor of collapse is not external stress, it is how the society responds/reacts to external stress. Therefore, given that external stress is a constant, the variable is the response.
        
        What we are seeing in Europe and North America is a series of inappropriate responses to external stresses. Russia’s fear (and that of any sane being) is that nuclear Armageddon will be the West’s ultimate inappropriate response.
      - joaopft on July 12, 2016 · at 1:57 pm EST/EDT
        
        In the Portuguese empire, external stress contributed to the final breakdown, but internal factors were the most decisive. The empire was based in commerce, and industrialization and technical/scientific prowess was not deemed important by the elites.The elites thought they could just trade their way into power. Well, as capital diligently flowed to northern Europe — Portuguese trade was only its conveyor belt — the economy of the country lagged behind. We see the same process going on in the West, right now (only that it is unravelling faster).
        
        This economic weakness was the cause of the decline. However, the decline of the Portuguese empire took four centuries to unravel. The empire was in decline since the 1650s. In the final stage (20th century) it was attacked by everybody, simply because it had no technological means to defend itself.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 1:45 am EST/EDT
  
  You’re completely wrong about Hitler, though. (so I wouldn’t be talking about misguided) The whole thing (Nazism/the Hitler Project) was actually one incredible, monstrous, AngloZionist fraud (especially Hitler).
  It’s not unlike the pack of lies about 9/11/the “War on Terror”, the “moon landings”, ‘ISIS’, whatever, only worse. And so was and is the taboo to tell the truth about it (it’s really suppressed).
  Not unlike 9/11, it is completely obvious, though (even after all these years), if one really looks into it.
  Don’t be fooled by ‘Barnes Review’ (probably one of the many CIA fronts trying to confuse and distract), and virtually all other CIA trash (e.g. “Wikipedia”), or fool talk written about it.
  Like you say, they own the ‘money press’ & the Lügenpresse (and ‘education’ system), so their lies (and glossy websites) are everywhere.
  - Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 9:37 am EST/EDT
    
    This documentary is very revealing. Good to see it’s nearly 3 million views with 24k likes.
    
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
    
    It presents good evidence and coherent narrative that the Cabal of industrialists and bankers sponsored Hitler and the Nazis. Whether Churchill and FDR were following orders to then put down the out of control created monster, or whether they represented the patriotic moral part of UK and US hitting back at the Cabal, is not so clear. I like to think was the latter. This documentary presents evidence for both.
    
    A very scholarly but utterly compelling movie. Helps in understanding the present.
    - Laika von old Monkshusen on July 11, 2016 · at 7:13 pm EST/EDT
      
      I reckon the AngloZionist Hitler and his gang of fags would’ve been evacuated, replaced, anyway, even if they had succeeded in overrunning the Soviet Union, and the AngloZionists, who run the US/UK, therefore in establishing worldwide AngloZionist tyranny (fascism).
      Nazism, as ‘ISIS’, was and is entirely organized and created by the West’s ‘shadow’ tyranny, though. It’s one and the same thing, which did what they couldn’t do themselves openly. (thank you. I’ll be watching the vid.)
    - Lohmann on July 11, 2016 · at 11:00 pm EST/EDT
      
      Utterly compelling is right. Puts all the pieces of the big picture together quite cohesively. Thank you for the link!
      - Laika von old Monkshusen on July 13, 2016 · at 1:38 am EST/EDT
        
        I don’t like it much at all. Yes, there’s a lot of good information in it, but they ignore the elephant in the room (except briefly mentioning Rothschild at first). WWI & Nazism was a take-over of Germany by the AngloZionist mafia, which took over Holland, Britain, and the US far earlier.
        The last Chancellors of Austria & Germany before Hitler were actually convinced that Hitler was a Rothschild: http://www.whale.to/c/inside_the_gestapo.html and everything certainly points to (speaks for) that anyway.
        So there’s very good information in it, but it’s also partly (it seems almost intentionally) distracting, and it disgustingly mentions some ‘official truths’ (white-livered lies) about WWII.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 5:33 am EST/EDT
  
  @Richard Cley
  “Not one western leader is patriotic. The west is run by non indigenous elites who peddle fear and are loathed for it by most of the natives.”
  
  I could not agree more. Huey Long and George Wallace got bullets. Fr Charles Coughlin lost his radio show. Pat Buchanan got nowhere. Ross Perot got death threats and chickened out. Dr Ron Paul got nowhere, (and it is far from clear that he was ever really trying).
  
  Snowden got exile, Manning got a cell, Michael Hastings got a pyrotechnic car crash. Prof Steven E Jones got forced retirement.
  
  But Mr Trump of the secret societies and tribal grandchildren got unlimited (only nominally negative) free media coverage. Now he has teased that his VP could be Lt Gen Michael T Flynn, co-author of a new book with Michael Ledeen. Who is Michael Ledeen?
  
  “Michael Ledeen has been described by the Jerusalem Post as “Washington’s neoconservative guru”. He was part of the neocon cabal that manufactured the defective intelligence in the lead up to the war against Iraq, and has since been active in making the case for the bombing of Iran.”
  
  QED, the West is so screwed. Wars forever and always to benefit usury and the Rothschild plantation in the Levant which pretends to be a country.
  - pogohere on July 11, 2016 · at 8:36 pm EST/EDT
    
    Michael Flynn is more than a valued adviser to the presumptive GOP nominee. He’s also a potential VP candidate.
    
    The growing chatter about his key role in the Trump campaign coincides with his new book, “The Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies,” scheduled for release July 12. A vice presidential trial balloon certainly would drive interest in the text, and possibly juice sales.
    
    He teamed up on the book with Michael Ledeen, a prominent member of a group of scholars and former government officials that helped shape the views of many top national security leaders in the George W. Bush administration.
    
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/…
    
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    Michael Ledeen
    
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    
    Work in the United States[edit]
    
    In the early 1980s, Ledeen appeared before the newly established Senate Subcommittee on Security and Terrorism, alongside former CIA director William Colby, author Claire Sterlingand former Newsweek editor Arnaud de Borchgrave. Both Ledeen and de Borchgrave worked for the Center for Strategic and International Studies at Georgetown University at the time.[6]All four testified that they believed the Soviet Union had provided for material support, training and inspiration for various terrorist groupings.[7]
    
    Ledeen was involved in the Iran–Contra affair as a consultant of National Security Advisor Robert C. McFarlane. Ledeen vouched for Iranian intermediary Manucher Ghorbanifar. In addition, he met with Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres, officials of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the Central Intelligence Agency to arrange meetings with high-ranking Iranian officials, whereby U.S supported Iranians would be given weapons by Israel, and would proceed to negotiate with Hizbollah for the release of hostages in Lebanon.[8] Ledeen’s own version of the events is published in his book, Perilous Statecraft.[9]
    
    Yellowcake forgery allegations[edit]
    
    Main article: Niger uranium forgeries
    
    According to a September 2004 article by Joshua Micah Marshall, Laura Rozen, and Paul Glastris in Washington Monthly:[10]
    
    “The first meeting occurred in Rome in December, 2001. It included Franklin, Rhode, and another American, the neoconservative writer and operative Michael Ledeen, who organized the meeting. (According to UPI, Ledeen was then working for Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith as a consultant.) Also in attendance was Ghorbanifar and a number of other Iranians.”
    
    Colleagues Andrew McCarthy and Mark R. Levin have defended Ledeen, writing[11]
    
    Up until now, the fiction recklessly spewed by disgruntled intelligence-community retirees and their media enablers—some of whom have conceded that the claim is based on zero evidence—has been that Michael had something to do with the forged Italian documents that, according to the Left’s narrative, were the basis for President Bush’s “lie” in the 2003 State of the Union Address that Saddam Hussein had obtained yellowcake uranium (for nuclear-weapons construction) in Africa.
    
    Iraq War advocacy[edit]
    
    Regarding the “pre-emptive” invasion of Iraq, in 2002 Ledeen criticized the views of former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft, writing:[12]
    
    He fears that if we attack Iraq “I think we could have an explosion in the Middle East. It could turn the whole region into a cauldron and destroy the War on Terror.”
    
    One can only hope that we turn the region into a cauldron, and faster, please. If ever there were a region that richly deserved being cauldronized, it is the Middle East today. If we wage the war effectively, we will bring down the terror regimes in Iraq, Iran, and Syria, and either bring down the Saudi monarchy or force it to abandon its global assembly line to indoctrinate young terrorists.
    
    That’s our mission in the war against terror.
    
    Ledeen specifically called for the deposition of Saddam Hussein’s regime by force in 2002:
    
    So it’s good news when Scowcroft comes out against the desperately needed and long overdue war against Saddam Hussein and the rest of the terror masters.[12]
    
    and:
    
    Question #2: Okay, well if we are all so certain about the dire need to invade Iraq, then when do we do so?
    
    Ledeen: Yesterday[13]
    
    Ledeen’s statements prior to the start of the Iraq war such as “desperately needed and long overdue war against Saddam Hussein” and “dire need to invade Iraq” caused Glenn Greenwald to label his later statement that he “opposed the military invasion of Iraq before it took place” to be an “outright lie”.[14] However, Ledeen maintains these statements are consistent since: “I advocated—as I still do—support for political revolution in Iran as the logical and necessary first step in the war against the terror masters.”[15]
    
    Views on Iran[edit]
    
    Although Ledeen was in favor of invading Iraq, he also believes that Iran should have been the first priority in the “war on terror.”[16] The New York Times describes Ledeen’s views as “everything traces back to Tehran”.[16] Ledeen’s phrase, “faster, please” has become a signature meme in Ledeen’s writings (it is currently the title of his blog on the Pajamas Mediawebsite) and is often referenced by neoconservative writers advocating a more forceful and broader “war on terror.” In 1979, Ledeen was one of the first Western writers to argue thatAyatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was a “clerical fascist”, and that while it was legitimate to criticize the Shah’s regime, if Khomeini seized power in Iran the Iranian people would suffer an even greater loss of freedom and women would be deprived of political and social rights. He presently believes that “No one in the West has yet supported Iranian democratic organizations” and that “aggressive support for those Iranians who wish to be free” would most likely work in ending the clerical government.[17]
    
    According to Justin Raimondo, Ledeen “holds up Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright as patsies for Khomeini—who supposedly believed that the Ayatollah overthrew Shah Reza Pahlavibecause the Iranian government was ‘excessively repressive and intolerant.’ While it would not do to come right out and deny the savagery of the Shah’s legendary SAVAK secret police, Ledeen informs us that, under the monarch’s beneficent rule, ‘Iran had become too modern, too tolerant—especially of women and of other religious faiths—and too self-indulgent. The shah had Westernized Iran’—except, perhaps, in his prisons, where the ancient methods of torture were routinely employed on dissidents of all sorts.”[18]
    
    Ledeen is currently against both an invasion of Iran or air-strikes within the country.[17][19] He has argued that the latter may eventually become necessary if negotiations with the Iranian government fail, but it would only be the least bad option of many options and it would lead to many negative unforeseen consequences.[19] The New York Times has called Ledeen’s skepticism towards military action against Iran surprising given his opposition to the regime.[16] In October 2007, Ledeen argued that:
    
    “Those who believe that I am part of some “hawkish gang” just haven’t noticed that I am opposed to invasion or bombing the nuclear facilities. My fear is that, by failing to promote a non-violent democratization of Iran, we make large-scale violence much more likely.”
    
    “In any event, time will tell, and I share the fear of most commenters [sic] that we will indeed arrive at a horrible choice between Iran with the bomb, or bomb Iran, as Sarkozy and Kouchner have put it. And if that happens, it will demonstrate a terrible failure on the part of the West, including the United States, to craft a serious Iran policy lo these many years.”[17]
    
    Controversial theories[edit]
    
    Ledeen also believed that Iran is the main backer of the insurgency in Iraq and even supported the al-Qaida network formerly led by al-Zarqawi despite its declaration of jihad againstShi’ite Muslims.[20] He claimed that German and Italian court documents showed Zarqawi created a European terrorist network while based in Tehran.[20]
    
    Ledeen was a board member of the “Coalition for Democracy in Iran” (CDI), founded by Morris Amitay, a former Executive Director of American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). Ledeen had also been part of the board of the U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon. According to the Washington Post, quoted by Asia Times, he was the only full-time international affairs analyst regularly consulted by Karl Rove, George W. Bush’s closest advisor[21]
    
    In a 2003 column entitled “A Theory,” Ledeen outlined a possibility that France and Germany, both NATO allies of the United States, “struck a deal with radical Islam and with radical Arabs” to use “extremism and terrorism as the weapon of choice” to weaken the United States. He stated, “It sounds fanciful, to be sure,” but that, “If this is correct, we will have to pursue the war against terror far beyond the boundaries of the Middle East, into the heart of Western Europe. And there, as in the Middle East, our greatest weapons are political: the demonstrated desire for freedom of the peoples of the countries that oppose us.”[22] See also: Eurabia
    
    Jonah Goldberg, Ledeen’s colleague at National Review, coined the term “Ledeen Doctrine” in a 2002 column. This tongue-in-cheek “doctrine” is usually summarized as “Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business,” which Goldberg remembered Ledeen saying in an early 1990s speech.[23]
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
- freedom007 on July 11, 2016 · at 10:53 am EST/EDT
  
  “The last true patriot in the west was Hitler, the rest are all banker’s shills, alcoholic paedophiles and gamblers”
  oh God what a nonsense. Was our late great chancellor Helmut Schmidt a banker´s shill? Nope. He also led a pure life. No gambling, no drunkenness, no perversion.
  Among the functionaries of Hitler´s government, however, was a whole bunch of gangsters. The morphine addicted Göring, the alcoholic Ley, the promiscuous homosexual Röhm who sought out bed-boys among SA members, that infamous Streicher whom the Party only reluctantly tolerated for his “value” in propaganda, and many others of whom we dont know the names no more. And the whole NS system was so full of incompetence and corruption that everyone outside Germany who knew it said that even the late-Baroque Princes, shortly before French Revolution, had been better at governing a people than them.
  
  Read Alan bullock´s Hitler Biography, Mr Cley. It is no propaganda, it contains truth.
  - ioan on July 11, 2016 · at 6:13 pm EST/EDT
    
    freedom007
    Helmut Schmidt was indeed one of the most respected German Kanzler after the war but even he was aware that Germany cannot get free as a free independent country and that was very painful truth for him. Of course, his patriotic feelings were not so high as to allow him such a political move which would have been suicidal. So, where and who is a patriot in the west ? Who is called so today, it’s been painted as a “nazi” or recht-extrem . The term “patriotismus” in Germany is something like red for the bull. And I even not mentioned the communists, that would be anathema.
    - mundanomaniac on July 11, 2016 · at 9:50 pm EST/EDT
      
      You are right ioan, in the wars the US waged since 1945 there was never another Task than the whole world and as possible as it was at the side
      of Washington Schmidt was, as was Schroeder, a mini-Patriot within the gates of the NATO-Dopelbeschluß, or out of the gates of the “war against WMD”. A more formidable patriot was de Gaulle.
      Now the whole political spectrum, ex the Linke, is bought and hijacked by the money and the Jobs created by Soros et al.
      But the writing is at the wall …
  - Richard Cley on July 11, 2016 · at 8:48 pm EST/EDT
    
    @ freedom 007
    Unfortunately you have been brainwashed by the Jewish media and you are unaware of it.
    
    Try reading Mein Kamph ‘My Struggle’ by Hitler and then go on to read Hitler’s second book which was unpublished in his lifetime but is available as a free pdf download online.
    
    National Socialism was about the power of a united people to control the state.
    
    All nations today and almost all others of Hitler’s day are centred around the power of the state over the people: USA, EU, UK,Canada, South Korea, China, etc etc etc.
    
    Fascism is favoured by states that put themselves over the people. National Socialism is about people power over the state.
    
    Time for you to put away your childish slurs on great men who are no longer here to defend themselves, and understand that world Jewry is lying about Hitler and National Socialism.
    
    Also study German history, especially social history from 1917 to 1933…mass starvation, mass unemployment, enormous inflation, crushing war debts they could never pay.
    
    You write out of ignorance because you believe the lies of the Allied victors of WWII. Why do you think they speak lies? To hide their own guilt over even greater war crimes they themselves committed.
    
    I imagine you are the sort of person who thinks the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not war crimes.
    - freedom007 on July 12, 2016 · at 11:14 am EST/EDT
      
      -“i imagine you are the sort of person who thinks the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not war crimes” Keep imagining, then! I dont wanna answer your comment en detail. I am well aware of the emergency situation in Germany during early 1930s, being well acquainted with the writings of Hans Fallada who witnessed all that.
      And I am well aware of how people really felt under the whip of Hilter´s shills “Parteigenossen” who overestimated themselves as the real Germans – again from Fallada, whose “Alone in Berlin” (Jeder stirbt für sich allein) should be an obligatory read for all youths when they come to grow up, to tell them how non-criminal Resistance and how action according to one´s own Conscience is done if it should be needed, and what real Heroism is in contrast to the hollow official heroism of military propaganda.
      Moreover, my grand-auntie was a Catholic nun who did Resistance during the unholy 12 years.
      Thus, your comparing one WWII carnage with the other means nothing to me. Tyrants are tyrants and mass murder is mass murder.
      And Mammonism enacted for one´s tribe to the expense of other tribes,
      i.e. National socialism,
      is NO better
      than mammonism followed for the sake of individual egos and their companies, i.e. Capitalism,
      or for one´s own (theist or non-theist) religion at the expense of other faiths,
      i.e. for example the old Spanish Conquista of South and middle America and the 20th century Stalinism which wanted to conquer the whole globe for Marx / Lenin.
      All the named systems have in common that they delusionally think their own thing or God to be the Greatest on the Globe, that they live on lying, deceiving, blackmailing, killing and that they are unable to leave ordinary people in peace.
      No tree grows high enough to reach the sky. God cuts them all down at the right time.
      - Richard Cley on July 12, 2016 · at 9:35 pm EST/EDT
        
        @Freedom007
        It is difficult for God believers to understand reality. Gods are interpreted from writings and sermons (both the views of men and women) from cultures and times different to our own.
        
        To judge on that sort of basis is easy and done frequently…people should know better but through weakness cling to these ideas and terms as they seem secure.
        
        My family lost more than fifty souls in the fire bombings of all German cities by the Allies and the ensuing cholera that plagued the whole nation there after.
        
        Coersion, brutality towards your own people and lies do not make a people or a nation fight until the very end as the Germans did up until May 8th 1945.
        
        Love for your people, love for your culture and love for your nation is the only thing that ensures this. The Germans loved Hitler and their leaders for saving them from the exploitation, misery and starvation that the rest of the world forced on them.
        
        The master race lie is a Jewish lie. Look at Israel today! It is illegal for Chritians to marry in today’s Israel. This is fact. Check it out for yourself. Hitler did not prevent Jews marrying. But Jews so hate Christians that they are not allowed to marry in the Jewish state.
        
        Hitler loved his people…that was why they died for him until the bitter end. No one loves Obama, or May (new UK PM), or Junkers and few will die for them except for brainwashed fools.
        
        Love…
    - TMA on July 18, 2016 · at 10:02 pm EST/EDT
      
      Bravo. So much lies about the N.S Germans. Of course they made strategic errors that played into the hand of the Gog and Magog world order but they were not a part of it. Indeed there were traitors amongst them.
      Can you imagine in 100 years or so if God forbid Russia is defeated by NATO, some people will say that Putin was an agent of them since Russia had financial contacts with Western nations? Or indeed if a (patriotic) Western organization gives money to Russia as they see Russia is doing good in the world and wish to support her?
      
      Do not forget that the USSR was a creation of the Gog and Magog Modern West! They who created it also destroyed it!!
Diaspora_M on July 10, 2016 · at 8:54 pm EST/EDT

I can only add two things… One is a Nixonian Axiom that seems to be the only thing that holds this shivering conglomerate together is. “If you got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.”

The second thing is that they posture despite knowing from their own gaming exercises that they can’t beat the bear that they poke. So one has to come to the conclusion that this is all for internal consumption. It almost makes me want to believe that they should bring Russia in on the joke and pay them a bit for some good Television Antagonism.

If I was in the Russian Higher Ups that’d be my regular talking point when addressing the west. “Pay us to be your boogie men. Its what you need, right? You can’t seem to survive in frank reality, can you? Russia has some wonderful actors we can put on a show. It’ll be great, just like your moon landing.” Lol

Full disclosure: I don’t think the moon landing was a hoax but its there for comedic effect.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 12:14 am EST/EDT
  
  @ Diaspora M
  
  “So one has to come to the conclusion that this is all for internal consumption.”
  
  Straight from the Fascist Guide to Foster Nationalism. It’s an essential ingredient in the fascist cocktail – you need an enemy to engineer social cohesion, conformity and uniformity (also know as patriotism), erosion of civil liberties, concentration of power in the state, justify aggression, etc.
  
  Kim
Astronaut on July 10, 2016 · at 9:12 pm EST/EDT

Saker, thank you for the roundup and review of the summit. I would like to however touch on a point which I think most people are completely missing or wanting to wish away and so avoid it – and this is a serious issue. It has to do with the blind spot that people in the west have in relation to their own support of empire and therefore their complicity in the trajectory everything is taking. To be specific, I have the benefit of being able to have discussions with people from and in European countries on the subject of their support for the EU – specifically people in/from France and Germany – and make no mistake – the majority of middle class people are fully signed up to Project Globalisation. Not only that, they are absolutely on-board with the idea that they will have to forfeit their unique cultures (traditional concepts of being French or German) in order to become European citizens – and even the idea that for example there will eventually only be one main/universal European language (English) with all the other national languages taking secondary positition, is ok with them. I have been told that culture and identity is old-fashioned and that business within the global markets is more important and in order to compete with other big powers Europe needs to be one – and this is exactly what Eurpean leaders are saying too. My point is that contrary to the notion that the idea and concept of a European Super-State is being forced upon the citizens of Europe, in most European countries the majority is NOT opposed to this – especially not the middle and upper middle classes – and here´s the reason – most people consider themself middle class, even when they are not. Modern consumer life-styles give everyone the impression they are middle-class. I suggest anyone who thinks this isnot true to have some discussions with French and German people in the wake of Brexit and see how many of them are really /genuinenly) angry with those “undeducated racists” in England for potentionally jeapordising the Europen project. Of course once the majority of the people in any nation is prepared to give up their own culture and language (it is quite shocking to actually come to the realisation that thisis happening, but it hasalready progressed very far), that nation has simply lost any motivation to resist anything that is imposed upon them by the “higher ideal”, which is a corporatised super state with business as a religion and a wise leader which will impose rules and direct everything from above – sound familiar? History repeats itself because of what is inside THE PEOPLE, or put differently -because of what is lacking inside. This is a spiritual matter and basically comes down to “selling your sould” – and this is happening not only on an individual level – nations are selling their soul for the common destiny of The Project. It would be great,Saker, if you could do a further analysis at some point about this (spiritual) phenomenon. Aldus Huxley was correct – people will choose their won prison and gladly sign up for tyranny – even if that would cost them everything – their cultures, their languages, their nations – and their very lives.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 1:16 am EST/EDT
  
  @ Astronaut
  
  “the majority of middle class people are fully signed up to Project Globalisation”
  
  After reading a few lines of your comment my first thought was that your “sample” was drawn from the well-to-do portion of society, and that should inform you why the Brexit vote succeeded: the plebes do not want to be the serfs of the Azion Empire.
  
  “…most people consider themself middle class, even when they are not”
  
  Once again, I suspect that your “sample’ to arrive at this conclusion is not a valid basis for your argument. However, recent studies have shown an increasing dilution of the concept of social class while, paradoxically, the economic class distinction is being sharpened by a clear chasm between the haves and the havenots, in effect, the elimination of the middle class.
  
  Social class and class mobility phenomena are subjective concepts now heavily promoted by consumerism fuelled by debt. “Lower class” and “working class” are becoming derogatory terms and people seek refuge in the abstraction of a middle that does not exist.
  
  I also have come across such examples: like a working class communist activist stating that she “would not buy cheaper products because she was middle class”, supposedly because she got a diploma in early childhood education.
  
  Kim
  - Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 3:06 am EST/EDT
    
    @Astronaut,
    
    I think that the class question will eventually be moot. The working class has already been thrown under the bus by the globalisation project and the sights are set next on rationalising the ‘middle class’ salarymen who have thus far benefited from the outsourcing of manufacturing.
    
    As those jobs increasingly disappear the dwindling erstwhile ‘middle class’ will find themselves in the same boat as the disregarded working class— zero hour contracts, punitive conditions and no viable prospects.
    
    They’ll soon change their tune when the axe of austerity falls on their own little bubble of security rather than on that of their poorer neighbours.
    - Helen on July 11, 2016 · at 3:31 am EST/EDT
      
      The above anon is me, Helen.
    - freedom007 on July 11, 2016 · at 11:23 am EST/EDT
      
      “the dwindling erstwhile ‘middle class’ will find themselves in the same boat as the disregarded working class— zero hour contracts, punitive conditions and no viable prospects”
      
      this is already a reality for the medical professionals, at least in Germany where I live.
      Our docs are “academic proletarians” i.e. some kind of slaves whom all their intelligence and professional knowledge does not save from even the grossest injustice.
      
      they study how to do Medicine,
      but as soon as they enter a job
      they are supposed not to do what they have studied, or what their Conscience tells them
      (as it should be in every medical worker, nurse, doc) –
      but what their respective Head Doc wants…
      forget Conscience and obey, Slave! …
      or the Ministry of Health,
      or – most frequently, and most shamefully – the Insurance companies.
      
      they are thus forced to become accomplices in grave dishonesty and injustice against patients.
      
      I tell you one self-experienced example now.
      
      I worked under a Head Doc who – just think – believed and accepted that in medicine everything is about money and not about the patients. Once we got a woman for rehabilitation
      who had suffered polytrauma (a big accident with many bone-breaks)
      and she still was bedriddden when she came to us.
      Bedridden meant that we had to get an increased fee from her Insurance to cover the costs.
      In order to get increased honorary, the Head Doc had to find, or construct (!), arguments for it.
      One of the diagnoses of this woman, now, was PTSD i.e. mental shock suffered by the accident. But when she came she seemed mentally stable.
      
      If the Head Doc had accepted this fact and reported it as it was, the Insurance would have doubted the necessity of an increased fee, as those mega-firms always do at the expense of the future and wellbeing of their customers.
      
      So what did that man do?
      Came into the sickroom, and
      frightened the poor woman by examining her injured shoulder-joint so grossly
      that she cried out from fright and pain, and started weeping bitterly!
      this reaction, then, was taken by him as a “proof” (PUKE!!!) that she still was mentally unstable.
      I would have liked to run away screaming, when witnessing this.
      I kept silence, though… as even the fact that I stored it in my memory, to testify if it be necessary, makes me illoyal, to the account of this system and this Head “Doc”, and puts me into danger!
      
      SHAME!!!
chimmy on July 10, 2016 · at 9:12 pm EST/EDT

Sounds like a remake of Sunset Bvld with a transgender Norma Desmond.
A clip from the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMTT0LW0M_Y
- chimmy on July 10, 2016 · at 10:33 pm EST/EDT
  
  On a more serious note, another indicator of US/EU/NATO weakness is the reckless posturing of General Breedlove. What is perhaps most maddening to western “leaders” is that Putin, Shoigu et al. are, unlike themselves, not universally despised by the populace.
WorldBLee on July 10, 2016 · at 9:27 pm EST/EDT

Ideology can be a great bet in the short run as people will go along with it for a while. But reality wins out in the long run, as NATO will learn.
Astronaut on July 10, 2016 · at 9:38 pm EST/EDT

PS: This phenomenon of wanting to join empire is also prevelant in South America. In Argentina people voted for Makri democratically. So the issue is with the majority (maybe by a small margin, but a majority none-the-less) WANTS to join/be associated with empire. I have spoken to people about this and they seemed uncomfortable that I should not see that this is simply “the way things are going”…. Amazing! – really, considering the history of Latin America and all the coups that took place there… Just to write that history off completely. So, the question is: What is WRONG with (the) people?!” (I think everyone´s brains have been completely fried by propaganda and/on social media).
Isabella on July 10, 2016 · at 9:42 pm EST/EDT

The issue is, as you point out Saker, that the AngloWest is delusional, but also truly is insane. Trying to hold two totally conflicting ideas in your head at the same time leads to madness. What we are seeing is a ” folie a plusiers”. A madness shared by many. However, this is insanity able to reach for total destruction buttons. Somehow speaking gently to the insane butcher holding a grenade so you get him to put the grenade down and come out of the room and not upsetting him so that he lets fly and kills millions is a difficult job. I think Putin and team are up to it.
It doesn’t help getting all the idiots around in the West who profess to be supporters of Russia – and probably think they are – but who keep decrying Putin and Russia for talking softly to the madman. They want him to yell and bark orders, whilst knowing this will drive the poor delude dangerous fool into a crisis mentality.
All we can do is hope, and enjoy each day as if it were our last. It just might be.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 1:59 am EST/EDT
  
  @ Isabella
  
  “…speaking gently to the insane butcher holding a grenade so you get him to put the grenade down…”
  
  I like you allegory. Maybe that is what prompts Mr. Putin & Co. to act with “noble humility” to the Azion Empire’s abuses. Indeed, it requires an exceptional personality to put up with all those insults and provocations without responding in kind plus interest.
  
  On the other hand, using the analogy of the bully in the playground, if you don’t stand up to him, he’ll beat you senseless and you’ll live in a permanent state of anxiety, stress, depression and mental disorder.
  
  Kim
  - Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 8:29 am EST/EDT
    
    Putin is doing both: speaking gently to the lunatic with the grenade, and standing up firmly to the playground bully.
- ioan on July 11, 2016 · at 6:54 pm EST/EDT
  
  Isabella
  “It doesn’t help getting all the idiots around in the West who profess to be supporters of Russia – and probably think they are – but who keep decrying Putin and Russia for talking softly to the madman. They want him to yell and bark orders, whilst knowing this will drive the poor delude dangerous fool into a crisis mentality.
  All we can do is hope, and enjoy each day as if it were our last. It just might be.”
  
  Just given up so easy ? without a fight ? Do we must accept our faith, not from God but from some people whom think the’re god ? God has given us the freedom to choose ! Then choose to fight against the Evil ! If with thoughts, if with hands but don’t give up.
Anonymous on July 10, 2016 · at 9:49 pm EST/EDT

4Chan found hidden message in FBI director Comeys letter from Friday 2 days ago with 2322 words that link to site with phrase ‘Help me Hillary Clinton has my family held hostage’ also there is HillAnon who told of unusual body language of Comey during hearing. FBIAnon was there twice with series of revelations on BLM and the Clinton Foundation. Obamas speech in Poland last week apparently also had 2322 words. Evidently some intelligence folk are starting to push back a bit before election.

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/80523004#p80523004
- Anonymous on July 10, 2016 · at 10:49 pm EST/EDT
  
  2322= 2000 +322.
  https://illuminatimatrix.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/322-skull-crossbones.jpg
cirdanx on July 10, 2016 · at 10:03 pm EST/EDT

Interesting read.

I guess i agree with most. Unfortunately there is a real possibility of a hot war. Not saying there are not any smart military men left that know this means doom, but an accident is all it takes. It saddens me that the media is so tightly controled here (EU..and US is a joke anyway) that people just don´t get it. Putin was right in his comments when interviewd at the St.Petersburg forum. Though, i still have the strong opinion, that if NATO would attack Russia, even under a false flag attack, and the politcians going along with it…it would also spill the end of most of these politicans, because i don´t believe that the European people would stand behind it and go willingly to war. I certainly wouldn´t.

The possibility of Clinton as president is also worrisome in this context. Her history is a bloody one. She couldn´t care less about people as long as she thinks she is safe, powerful and rich enough.

Though. i´m not sure if a collapse of the “west” would turn out the same way as with the Soviet Union. Chaos in America could be a disaster. But on the other side, it would also likely force the goverment to bring back oversea troops to deal with civil unrest and or armed conflicts. Less US troops in countries they don´t belong anyway is a good thing in my book.

Europe is…different in my view. Oh sure Brussel would love to rule everything in a totalitarian way. (and Washington behind the curtain) But they are not there yet and the more they try, the more the people stand behind national parties. Just like you can´t erase Russias history, you also can´t just erase the history of all european countries and make a United States of Europe out of it. It only worked in the US because it was a complete different scenario and even then it took a civil war. Let´s not pretend this was about slavery or freedom. *rolleyes*

There is another thing the mainstream media likes to block out. And it´s the anger and hatred against the EU (also NATO and the actions of Washington) in the people of Europe. Huge protests against the sanctions, NATO build up, EU “reforms”, Eu flag burnings, etc etc etc just don´t or get hardly reported on at all.

Instead they cover the pro side (the minority) and act like we are all united. Naturally, as they are afraid to lose power. Or in other words: it´s a bullshit show. Full of lies, tricks or flat out fraud when it comes to elections. The reality is, Europe doesn´t need the Europe Union and the people also don´t want it anymore.

Sure, there are people who believe themselves to be “Europeans” above else. But you can find idiots anywhere. Still, it´s an intersting thing to observe, as these “Europeans” and EU supporters are the once panicing and with that comes the violence. Screaming against the “right” while they attack other people, the police, leave parts of cities devestated and happily look away when fake refugees beat and rape their way thru their own ranks. The irony is strong here and in a twisted way amusing.

As Donald Rumsfeld had to admit when they couldn´t force Germany and France to go fully into Iraq, there are two Europes. The old that very well remembers that the US didn´t save them and certainly didn´t stay to help them with anything and the new, sheeps who should read some history books before even thinking about saying one word.

Point being, with a still strong national movement. Pride, or at least respect and lessons of our own history etc. I think the transformation away from the EU and back to our own independent countries wouldn´t take that long. I thought long about this, and as an example, i guess it would take 2-5 years to roll back the EU based changes to our (Austria) economy. Which have been a disaster. Though, i´m not pretending to be an expert here.

Anyway, i think for such significant changes, there needs to be a breaking point (like always in history). Either one from the EU itself: trying to take over everything for example, or one from the outside: like a finanical crash and/or the US crashing. The last thing, would be required in a way for Europe, to get rid of NATO along the line and all these US bases on the continent. So…i´m sorry to say this, as i have no grudge against the American people and consider some as close friends, but in a way, i hope the country falls flat on its face. The sooner the better.

As for Russia and China…they sure would have an interest in supporting such a transition and make it smoother. Chaos in Europe would effect Russia sooner or later and the Dragon builds his future to trade with the world.

Let´s keep in mind that all empires end and before you can build something anew or even better, the old one has to go. A history lesson, unfortunately, the ruling class hasn´t learned.
RR on July 10, 2016 · at 10:11 pm EST/EDT

The USSR didn’t fall it was pushed. The GDP of the USSR in 91 was 1 to 1.5 % The west was as broke or worse than they were. You have fallen for the capitalist triumphalism of the day. Really, America economy was in the toilet as much or more than the USSR at the time or maybe more.
I think this was the what was really behind the looting.
RR
Anonymous on July 10, 2016 · at 10:45 pm EST/EDT

German members of parliament say the country’s troops serving at Turkey’s Incirlik airbase should be recalled if Ankara continues to deny parliamentarians access to the compound.

Some 250 German troops are stationed at the base, along with six Tornado reconnaissance jets and a refueling plane, as part of the US-led coalition allegedly battling the Daesh Takfiri terrorist group in Syria and Iraq.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/10/474571/germany-turkey-mps-incirlik-airbase
Dennis Leary on July 10, 2016 · at 11:59 pm EST/EDT

The Saker and Astronaut (above) present an optimistic and pessimistic view, respectively. I think the truth is that we just don’t know how this crisis is going to end. I believe we should hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

I am stocking up on canned food and preparing myself psychologically for any eventuality.

I am also considering running for mayor in our small town of 8000, to prepare our mostly somnolent community to face the possible (for them) and probable (for me) collapse, either by war or by failed economics.

Then there is the spiritual dimension, which is the most problematic. I see no help coming from that quarter, other than words of peace, prayer and ceremony. That may serve to comfort us and to have some effect; but counter-cultural actions are largely ignored. In that regard, I have to agree with Astronaut.

I consider the Russian people as a whole and the military in particular to be standing on firm spiritual and moral grounds; but it is also quite a narrow and small piece of the whole earth population, which is being constantly subjected to the empire’s sales pitch.

The imperial idea as such is being incorporated insidiously into Russia and China’s own version of empire. We may win the military war but the information war is quite another matter. We may win the battle and lose the war.

I “do my bit” as the Irish say, mostly at the cafe, where I present my idea and ideal of love, as the most real of all ideas. In religious terms, love is the revelation that brings salvation. The very word love, precisely in its English form, is the gift we are given in our times to resurrect the tired dogma of incarnation. The word (logic, order, knowledge, being, theology, philosophy, etc) has not been adequate over the last 2000 years to do what must be done.

The incarnation of love will build on the word, naturally; the new structure will be a combination of the best of the old and the new. In that regard, I have to agree with the Saker.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 11:34 am EST/EDT
  
  “the spiritual dimension, which is the most problematic. I see no help coming from that quarter, other than words of peace, prayer and ceremony. That may serve to comfort us and to have some effect; but counter-cultural actions are largely ignored.”
  
  Read “Worshipping False Idols”, I am trying there to give some “counter-education” including hints about spiritually-based action in daily material life – the core of which is to know that we do have a God-given, well-constructed inborn instinct pattern as other living beings and to live accordingly to it wherever possible; to disbelieve in the Reign of Money, knowing that money is only a tool and should never distort our lives or spoil our characters by becoming its Lord; to say NO to the diktat of buying unnecessary things, because we only finance war and death by this; to always prefer simple solutions for material problems; and to grow one´s own food if ever possible.
  
  The Word of God must do something in this world – otherwise it becomes “Salt that lost its Taste”!
- ioan on July 11, 2016 · at 7:07 pm EST/EDT
  
  Dennis
  Welcome back young man ! As I see, you have new energy and jumped directly in the war-room !
  Good to see you again !
George on July 11, 2016 · at 12:11 am EST/EDT

Thanks to the Saker for this extraordinary web-site. Just about THE most
interesting read on the Internet.
Reading these offerings is an education.
The world is spiritually broken.
The USA went into full-hysterical mode after 9/11.
They didn’t get it (I mean the people in the street), and are still whining
“why did this have to happen to me?”
The people in power are totally insane and the situation, financial, in the USA
is so bad they are feeling trapped. Something will snap. Even if a war is not
deliberately started, an accident, a mis-interpretation of something will
probably get one going.
The Chinese are working behind the scenes to stabilize things. Let’s hope they succeed.
A dominant character trait of Anglo-Saxons is self-righteousness and they will
immolate themselves and the whole world for the sake of justifying their feelings. They probably think they will make it to their underground bunkers in time. They will not.
Fine, intelligent comments by Astronaut and Isabella.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 9:39 pm EST/EDT
  
  This constant demonising of Anglo-Saxons here is eally beginning to irritate me. If it were true I’d grudgingly accept it, but it really isn’t if my limited understanding of English history is correct. Following the Norman conquest of Anglo-Saxon England, the country became class divided with the Normans becoming the ruling and middle-classes, Anglo-Saxons the working class. The Jews stepped in soon after acting under the protection of the Normans.
  
  I’d wager that the vast majority of the recent Brexit voters had Anglo-Saxon heritage being that many of the highest percentages were in old Anglo-Saxon strongholds like the Fenlands, East Anglia and other rural areas–yes I know these are also areas with high immigrant worker populations, but nevertheless it’s these working class populations that feel the real impact of demographic changes.
  
  It would be interesting to scrutinise the origins of some prominent players in the new establishment, I have a strong hunch most will not be of good Anglo-Saxon stock.
  I have an interest in following as much as I find of recent DNA screening of populations, especially following certain Haploid groups. A large scale recent study found that all of Scotland, England and South Wales carry the same distribution of 45% Franco and 35% Germanic genes of – close to identical- gene pool. It seems fair then to identify the English and those lands that are largely sprung from English as – not Anglo as there are no Danish/Dutch genes but Franco-Germanic. There are no Roman, no Scandinavian and no specifically North French / Gaulish gene groups. It seems the haughty Romans [mingling with the “natives” was forbidden and frowned upon] nor the marauding Scandinavians had much to do with the locals after all. But your contention that “most will not be of good Anglo-Saxon stock” is wrong apart from mixing Angles with Franks. mod-on-duty
  - Anonymous on July 12, 2016 · at 11:15 am EST/EDT
    
    Hi Mod
    I have no idea what study you read, but it certainly doesn’t match the one I read. ‘The People of the British Isles’ study’, Oxford University, indicates that what I wrote was pretty much correct. I say indicates because these are tentative findings from an ongoing study, not conclusive results as you seem to rather stridently and prematurely suggest.
    
    Nevertheless in the rural areas I mentioned that were least cosmopolitan in recent history, the study did indeed show strong Anglo-Saxon add mixture, but the good old ancient Briton survives. Which still leaves the issue of the ruling classes and the erroneous demonising of Anglo-Saxons. And I’m 50% Slav by the way, though that might change when I get my DNA tested.
    
    http://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org
Babushka in Oz on July 11, 2016 · at 1:00 am EST/EDT

The latest AZ Murdock press attempt to smear Russia. Ukrainian crook and fraudster believed to be hiding in Russia.

“A founder of Australian internet provider Dodo is a fugitive believed to be hiding in Russia, with Ukrainian authorities accusing him of large-scale bank fraud.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/dodo-founder-igor-gilenko-a-fugitive-in-russia-over-bank-fraud-charges/news-story/1e3be9ceef5cf3d11666ec44adc46723
- Babushka in Oz on July 11, 2016 · at 1:10 am EST/EDT
  
  Sorry the link leads to ‘subscribe only’
  
  Go here and scroll down to ‘Dodo founder hiding in Russia’
  
  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/
  - ioan on July 11, 2016 · at 7:11 pm EST/EDT
    
    Babushka
    Thanks, and I appreciate your writhings
Nightingale on July 11, 2016 · at 1:49 am EST/EDT

People are starting to understand how the Neo-Con based (which is just another word for Jewish) system works. Every time they use words such as “freedom”, “democracy”, “equality”, what they really mean is just another form of control. In my opinion, they invented race wars and use thousands of tricks to separate people and make them fight one another. From what I see around me, more and more people are waking up to this reality. The kind of reality in which we fight and work not for our own benefit but for the benefits of 1%, and we all know who these 1 perceneters are. They try to poison us with their pornography, toxic foods, vapid ideologies etc, etc but at the same time they’re running out of ammunition. Just like for the magicians, the acts are working for as long as the audience is ignorant of the inner workings of these tricks. The curtains are full of wholes and the “magic” is getting more and more predictable. This house of cards is falling down.
- Babushka in Oz on July 11, 2016 · at 3:19 am EST/EDT
  
  Nightingale
  
  Good comments “From what I see around me, more and more people are waking up to this reality.”
  
  Sadly just as many more are still asleep and stupid.
  
  Prior to the recent Aussie Federal elections a new candidate had a stall at the local farmer’s market.
  
  I asked him two questions:
  1. When is the govt going to release the full story about MH17 and why did the govt sign a confidentially agreement?
  
  He didn’t have a clue … “the plane that the Russian’s shot down over Ukraine” and “what agreement” ?
  
  The person in the street might be waking up, but our ‘elected representatives’ will continue to spew tripe. (ideology not reality).
- freedom007 on July 11, 2016 · at 11:37 am EST/EDT
  
  “Jewish”
  Stop warming up that old soup of lies!
  Mammon idolatry has no Elected People, it is an ubiquitous disease,
  and if Babylon, where the Hebrews lived for some centuries, hadnt invented it, the same distortion of reality would have been invented in ancient India or China.
  It is a stage of history thru which Mankind has to go to develop something better. I hope that the dark millennia of Mammon will soon come to an end – without Earth being blewn up by bombs!
  - Uncle Bob 1 on July 11, 2016 · at 2:09 pm EST/EDT
    
    Interestingly enough,the Chinese used to be ,(and are being again) so renowned as merchants and traders that they were called “The Jews of Asia”.
  - ioan on July 11, 2016 · at 7:24 pm EST/EDT
    
    Read the Bible, you may found interesting things about the chosen people and Mammon idolatry, even in the speeches of Jesus Christ our Lord.
  - mundanomaniac on July 11, 2016 · at 10:26 pm EST/EDT
    
    The jewish tribe (not race)is the only one dispersed over the planet, which is heir of 3.000 years of training the parsing mind, zealous to maintain the blood clean and prepared to rule mankind. This is a fact with its black and its white sides, or its Neocons and honest local doctors.
    Marx mentioned to the “Jewish Question” that the money-aristocrat is the “Jew”, nonwithstanding his believe. This was an error. The money is with the families of all denominations for all centuries but Jews as its astute managers are in the role of mephistopheles.
    
    Ps: Why is my nic suddenly m and no longer mundanomaniac?
vot tak on July 11, 2016 · at 3:01 am EST/EDT

Nato, or better put gaytoe, are that closet homosexual fascist euro-american club of the 1930’s hellbent on destroying the evil commies, (which essentially was the mentality behind the western aggression against the USSR, PRC and all the other nations working to become independent of the colonial powers, whatever their actual political/economic model choice), with the modern zionazi flavour, the rotting stench of which that now pervades all aspects of western society. Hubris, fanaticism, unbridled greed and the ubiquitous crusty, fly specked brown noses.
Babushka in Oz on July 11, 2016 · at 3:39 am EST/EDT

Good sum up of the NATO conference on

https://www.sott.net/article/321892-Predictable-NATO-summit-closes-by-condemning-Russia

The issues that were discussed at this year’s NATO Summit were mainly preparations for a possible war against Russia.

The two-day Summit in Warsaw, Poland ended on Saturday July 9th, with a 139-part “Warsaw Summit Communiqué” which used the word “terrorism” 17 times, “jihad” and “jihadist” and “jihadism” 0 (zero) times, and “Russia” 58 times — never favorably, and often with overt hostility.
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 6:24 pm EST/EDT
  
  Don’t forget Iran.
  
  The Iranian Foreign Ministry has dismissed a recent NATO communiqué concerning the Islamic Republic’s missile program as “a repetition of past baseless allegations.”
  
  NATO, in a statement released on June 9, expressed “serious concern over the development of Iran’s ballistic missile program and continuing missile tests,” claiming that they “are inconsistent with UNSCR 2231.”
  http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/11/474621/Iran-missile-program-NATO-statement-JCPOA-Resolution-2231
Mi-35M destroyed by friendly fire on July 11, 2016 · at 3:48 am EST/EDT

high-resolution recording of Mi-35M going down:

https://citeam.org/files/isis-08072016.mp4
vot tak on July 11, 2016 · at 4:35 am EST/EDT

Moldova Asks NATO to Kick Russian Peacekeepers Out of Transnistria

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160711/1042747822/moldova-asks-nato-kick-russian-peacekeepers.html

“Moldova’s Minister of Defense Anatolie Salaru has turned to NATO leadership asking for help evicting a Russian peacemaker contingent from Transnistria, RIA Novosti reported citing sources in the country’s defense ministry”

Another zionazi tool.
Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 6:01 am EST/EDT

@ Helen

From your description, I would classify Tainter’s approach as a structural analysis of societies in crisis. The tools used are modern concepts of societal dynamics applied to extinct models revealed through historicism and archaeological interpretations, always ending with a reconstruction impregnated with subjectivism.

I’m always curious to know more and will read him, with caution. Thank you for directing me. Meanwhile, I still maintain that Rome (the Eastern component was never, really, Roman), in spite of some decay – which was never terminal and was capable of a renewal by another Caesar or Octavian – collapsed from a chain of events from the Hunnic invasions into Eastern Europe which in turn forced the Alans and Goths to move into Central Europe and the other Germanic tribes had nowhere else to go but migrate to Western Europe. Regardless of the state of affairs in Rome proper, no Caesar or Scipio could stop the Anges, Saxons, Sweves, Lombards, Franks, Burgundians, Visigoths, Vandals and other tribes from overflowing into Britannia, Gaul, Italia and Hispania, and even to North Africa where the Vandals settled in the lands of ancient Carthage.

My view is that empires, by their own nature, will eventual collide with another empire or similar power and the stronger will prevail (e.g. Byzantium and Ottoman); sometimes both or all collapse (e.g. Austrian, Russian, Ottoman, German, French, British from the combined effects of WWI and WWII, which in effect were a single event with a cessation of hostilities from 1918-39).

Just a logical exercise will show, the implausibility of the “inside rot theory”. Assume there are two empires, each one run according to the best possible models of social, economic and political governance (no internal decay or conflict). But there is one difference: one of them is run by a clique bent on global conquest and enslavement of all people for the benefit of the clique and is armed to the teeth with powerful contraptions of war. Which one is going to fall?

Perhaps closer to Tainter’s case studies (an assumption from the title, I have not read any of his works) it did not matter how well run the Aztec or Inca empires were (no inside rot) at the time of the Spanish invasion of America, the simple fact is that at their stage of cultural and technological development they could not possibly resist the Conquistadores in spite of there being ridiculously few of them for the task.

Kim
- Helen on July 11, 2016 · at 8:21 am EST/EDT
  
  @ Kim,
  
  “Which one is going to fall?”
  
  I’d say both, in the long term.
  
  Having to concentrate so much on winning a technological or ordnance race and then plotting to keep a mailed fist on the levers of power is an ‘involuntary shedding of complexity’–as is centralisation and globalisation.
  
  The heavily armed and technologically advanced ‘winner’ however will never understand why they have sown the seeds of their own eventual destruction—diminishing returns, overreach, hubris etc.
  
  One of the reasons Putin is so effective and (to me) admirable is that he is quite at home when dealing with complexity, in stark contrast to his western counterparts. (I first typed ‘peers’ but you can’t in all honesty call our shower of jobsworths his peers.)
  - Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 10:09 am EST/EDT
    
    @ Helen
    
    Eureka! Now I see it how it works, still from outside. The Spaniards invaded America, destroyed the local empires and created their own there (and in large parts of Europe as well). However, by doing so they also created the conditions leading to the Dutch, French, Portuguese and English racing each other in empire-building of their own in America. The English part of the American pie inherited the same empire-building gene, turned into a revolting mob and started building their own empire at the expense of the Spanish one.
    
    The moral of the story: the Spaniards should have stayed home.
    
    Kim
    - Helen on July 11, 2016 · at 4:56 pm EST/EDT
      
      We should all have stayed at home rather than pursuing wars of aggression and conquest. Hindsight, huh?
      
      You might find this interesting, from an ex-sqaddie conscientious objector to the Iraq war Ben Grifiin, who doesn’t get mainstream press coverage due to MOD gagging orders.
      
      He covers Chilcot, Iraq, Afghanistan and finally the current NATO posturing on Russia’s borders. What he is describing, in layman’s terms, is the ‘involuntary shedding of complexity’. When you have a hammer everything is a nail.
      
      I find the first hand evidence of a common foot soldier to be infinitely more compelling than any academic theory and far more honest than Chilcot.
      
      https://soundcloud.com/user-420353558/pippa-jones-interviewing-ben-griffin-on-chilcot-findings
- Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 12:58 pm EST/EDT
  
  The Eastern component was very much Roman, and more than that, it was Rome. I would recommend you study this period of history in more detail, preferably from sources that don’t have an interest in legitimizing their version of history.
John Gilberts on July 11, 2016 · at 8:28 am EST/EDT

Ukraine Will Buy Weapons From Canada
http://uatoday.tv/politics/ukraine-will-buy-weapons-from-canada-media-692059.html
Trudeau in Kyiv today. His Banderite friendly international trade minister Chrystia Freeland is enroute. Canadians seem unaware or unconcerned.
- randy on July 11, 2016 · at 8:31 pm EST/EDT
  
  Canadians seem unaware or unconcerned.
  - John Gilberts on July 12, 2016 · at 3:10 am EST/EDT
    
    Trudeau & Parubiy
    https://twitter.com/AndriyParubiy/status/752520464040337408
    Western Liberal – Fascist Alliance Develops Apace (again)
- randy on July 11, 2016 · at 8:35 pm EST/EDT
  
  Canadians seem unaware or unconcerned.
  Well yes, look who he is who his dad was. If this guy is doing this its proof we dont run our country.
  This is a policy not made in Canada.
vot tak on July 11, 2016 · at 8:43 am EST/EDT

NATO’s Double Standards: Why Warsaw Meeting Became a ‘Summit of Lies’

http://sputniknews.com/world/20160711/1042750694/summit-nato-russia-relations.html

“The NATO summit in Warsaw saw participants paying lip-service to the necessity of the alliance bolstering ties with Moscow, the Russian newspaper Vzglyad reported, drawing attention to the fact that the expansion of NATO’s military presence near Russian borders was the main result of the Warsaw gathering.

The newspaper referred to Konstantin Kosachev, head of the Russian Upper House’s International Affairs Committee, who slammed the Warsaw meeting as “a summit of lies” as its only key decision was based on false statements about alleged threats emanating from Russia.

He wrote on his Facebook page that “NATO’s decision to deploy its four battalions in Poland and the Baltic states are unlikely to drastically change our relationship.”

“We are not afraid of soldiers, we are scared of politicians who, knowing full well that there is no threat from Russia, continue to deceive millions of people. This is why the Warsaw gathering is a summit of lies,” according to him.

Former president of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev, for his part, described NATO’s steps as a preparation for war. Vzglyad quoted him as saying that “the Warsaw summit’s rhetoric almost shows that the alliance is declaring war against Russia.”

“They talk about defense, but actually they are preparing for an offensive,” he pointed out.”

Even gorby condemns what zato/gato did.
Tanto on July 11, 2016 · at 9:49 am EST/EDT

Well, considering the “Russian Warning” memo from Saker, Orlov etc., the question arise what will happen first, the war or economic collapse.

I would likely suggest Russia could “help” US with this economic disaster in some creative ways. Before some crazy neocons start the deterrence NATO war for whatever reasons.
Harry on July 11, 2016 · at 11:29 am EST/EDT

I am reminded of a saying used frequently by my Grandfarher (GRHS). He used to say that people are the same everywhere, and all share the same needs: That it is Government that gets in the way.

He was a communist to his last breath. His views have been proved to me to be correct over and over again. We in western Europe were all gleefully shown film of the bread queues in Russia, as though it was funny and served to justify western capitalism. But it was merely the result of corruption, of Government Maladministration. Our leaders represent an alternate civilisation where there is plenty for the adherents. The balance of people insultingly named “consumers” or “the masses” must eat cake.

These troubles in the world, as with the US’ European occupation forces of which NATO is a part are caused by governments; Not peoples. Oligarchs; necessary to some extent to the old banking crooks, were made by conspiracy using institutions like Central Banks, BIS, World Bank, and of course our Oligarch assembly line extraordinaire, the IMF.

We, the powerless (so we think) are kept in check by propaganda, and corporate police, but mainly by the state imposed education system. So much is wrong, but yet people in general require only a place to live and a means to live. The rest is illusion. Gods way? or Governments way? Government is imposed. It produces nothing but laws: To justify its existence it must continually make laws upon laws upon laws, eventually regulating down to the micro level. Surveilling and intruding outrageously. Then it invents Terrorism: Aren’t you frightened? All those head chopping organ eating maniacs coming for you unless you permit your government corp to manage your life completely. Terrorists recruited and trained and handled by Intelligence agencies accountable to the bankers. People everywhere must stand and say enough: And mean it.
Sergei Gunt on July 11, 2016 · at 12:46 pm EST/EDT

I came to the conclusion that if there were a war, it would be NATO’s last war. After this war NATO will disintegrate. Polls in Europe support that 70%-80% of Europeans don’t want a war. So I think Europeans will jump ship, if a war breaks out. Saker wrote that in the event of a war it’s actually USA vs. RU and not NATO vs. RU.

The best thing Europeans can do is just not be involved and be as quiet as possible. And I think most European countries will do that. Dissent to the NATO agenda can be seen in various countries except Poland and the Baltics.
xcv on July 11, 2016 · at 3:10 pm EST/EDT

“Message to Russia: you dared to oppose us and you thought that being in the right might help you. Well, Russia, screw you Russia, and screw reality! You either are with us (i.e. under our control), or you will be treated like a pariah.”

Sooner or later, Russia will be forced to return to economic policies reminiscent of Soviet Union.

A Russia that is partly integrated into the New World Order of neoliberal globalisation will remain weak and will not be able to resist the ongoing attack of the Western Elites in the long term.

Therefore, policies that will regain Russian sovereignty from the NWO would be necessary.
An exit from the WTO, a program of re-industrialisation and a re-nationalisation of corporations of strategic importance.

Alternatively, the role of Russia would be that of a cheap provider of raw materials/ scientific personnel and women to western markets. A colony of the West instead of an emerging superpower……
vietnam vet on July 11, 2016 · at 3:16 pm EST/EDT

“You could say that Russia fears the US/NATO/EU weakness a great deal more than she fear the US/NATO/EU strength.” Spot on!

When I briefly served a tour in Germany as an NCO back in the early 1980s, our joint “exercises” with fellow NATO members were ludicrous (with the exception of the Brits). Everyone in my unit realized we would be just a bump in the road against any serious Soviet attack. We had great difficulties in view of the language, cultural, doctrine, technical, and command and control differences. It is possible things have changed, but I have a hard time imagining it.
xcv on July 11, 2016 · at 3:41 pm EST/EDT

“THE SAKER

In this dying and unstable world, the NATO summit in Warsaw played the same role as the XXVIth Congress of the CPSU in the Soviet Union in 1981: a touching show of unity in the face of an inevitable collapse.
If we remember what happened to the USSR and Russia in the following two decades we can only conclude that we are about to enter a most difficult and dangerous period of history.”

Soviet Union’s collapse was not inevitable.
And this is not my opinion but the opinion of Stephen Cohen

http://www.gorby.ru/en/presscenter/news/show_28867/

” Stephen Cohen

In short, the combination and interaction of these three factors Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and the property-seeking elites — explain the end of the Soviet Union. None of these factors were, of course, inevitable. Nor was the result.
We may debate their relative weight in the outcome.
But minus any one of these three factors, the Soviet Union, in some form, would almost certainly still exist today. ”

Just as the Soviet Union’s collapse was not inevitable, the same is true for the Western Globalist World Order.

Actually, we live in a very unipolar world. About 80% of the total global production and trade is controlled by a few Multinational conglomerates. Neoliberalism is universally adopted (minus North Korea and Cuba) and there is no opposing alternative economic system in place.

During Cold War, Soviet Socialism was followed by numerous countries with incredible achievements .

As of 2016, Russia still follows an oligarchic capitalist economic system partially integrated into the NWO. But Russia is resisting even though it is a shadow of the former Soviet Union. It does not possess the same level of sovereignty that USSR had. It lacks the military power, economic and industrial power of USSR. The Eastern Bloc Alliance does not exist.

But there is hope. The game is far from over, it only has begun.

The patriotic anti-globalist forces in Russia are gaining the upper hand against the “liberals”.

Anti-globalist popular sentiment in western nations is rising, many neo-nationalist parties are hugely popular with a political agenda that is against EU, globalisation, mass immigration etc. The remnants of the working class are supporting parties such as FRONT NATIONAL which has a program that calls for an exit from EU, nationalisations of banking/energy/transportation, state control of the important sectors of the economy, an end to mass immigration etc. On the other hand, the so called
“leftist”/ “socialist” parties are all in favour of neoliberal globalisation and are representing only the well off middle class people.
- Veronica on July 11, 2016 · at 7:37 pm EST/EDT
  
  @ xcv
  
  Well said!
- Straight-Bat on July 13, 2016 · at 5:31 am EST/EDT
  
  xcv,
  
  Thanks a lot – you have reminded us the historical fact that collapse of the USSR was not inevitable, but it was planned and executed by the AZ cabal.
Lee Francis on July 11, 2016 · at 4:15 pm EST/EDT

All empires end, first law of geopolitics. Quite simply because the cost of holding down millions of unwilling colonials becomes economically unsustainable; secondly the rulers become corrupted and decadent, and thirdly the ruled get tired of being misruled. As Thucydides astutely observed the empire then brings its more brutal methods of rule home from the periphery of empire back to the core. This can be clearly seen in the US at the present time. The British solider and historian Sir John Bagot Glubb (1897-1987), a highly honored British general Glubb Pasha, wrote about the collapsed empires of the past. In his 1978 book The Fate of Empires and the Search for Survival, he described a common pattern fitting the history of some fallen empires. They went through a cycle of stages as they started, expanded, matured, declined and collapsed.

He generalized about empires having seven stages of development, identifying these successive ages chronologically as follows:

1. The age of outburst (or pioneers).
2. The age of conquests.
3. The age of commerce.
4. The age of affluence.
5. The age of intellect.
6. The age of decadence.
7. The age of decline and collapse.

The growth period of the US empire has stopped somewhere in the 1960s and its has reached stage 6, I would argue. The continual pattern of birth, maturity, decay and death seems to have been the historical leitmotif for empires. Where is the glory of Babylonia now? Or that of ancient Egypt, China, India, Greece, Rome? Gone all gone … that is the historical record. Why then should the Anglo-zionist empire escape this fate? Well of course it won’t.

”The dissolution of corporate US hegemony, when it does occur – and our Soviet watershed is at least 40 years down the road at the time of writing (2000) – will happen because of the ultmate inability of the system to maintain itself indefinitely. This type of breakdown, which is an historical phenomenon, is a long range one and internal to the system … ” (The Twilight of American Culture – Morris Berman).

The fall of the Roman empire forms the template for the decay of empires. The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest was fought in September 9 AD during the Roman-Germanic Wars (113 BC-439 AD) was one of the pivotal events in European history took place. In A.D. 9, three crack legions of Rome’s army were caught in an ambush and annihilated. Ongoing finds—ranging from simple nails to fragments of armor and the remains of fortifications—have verified the innovative guerrilla tactics that according to accounts from the period, neutralized the Romans’ superior weaponry and discipline.

It was a defeat so catastrophic that it threatened the survival of Rome itself and halted the empire’s conquest of Germany. “This was a battle that changed the course of history,” says Peter S. Wells, a specialist in Iron Age European archaeology at the University of Minnesota and the author of The Battle That Stopped Rome. “It was one of the most devastating defeats ever suffered by the Roman Army, and its consequences were the most far-reaching. The battle led to the creation of a militarized frontier in the middle of Europe that endured for 400 years, and it created a boundary between Germanic and Latin cultures that lasted 2,000 years.”

The power of Rome was found after all not to be invincible, although the empire endured for a few more centuries it was on a downhill trajectory ending with the sacking of Rome by the Goths.

The US can no longer fight a land war of any dimensions. It is un-affordable and would be resisted by the American population. Moreover, the invincible US war machine was unable to prevent defeats at the hands of the Vietnamese and Afghans. Vietnam was the US’s Tuetoburg Forest.

The danger seems to be that this collective insanity of the US ruling elites who are unable to prevent this decline – mainly because they were the cause of it – may drag the whole world down with them.
- Helen on July 11, 2016 · at 5:22 pm EST/EDT
  
  Good comment.
Auslander on July 11, 2016 · at 5:42 pm EST/EDT

I have had the time this gentle summer evening to read the entire article and all the comments so far.

I think the main problem with the ‘US vs. Russia’ mess is US, and in general Europe (I doubt I’ll ever use ‘eu’ again, Europe is Europe!) has not a clue as to what the real Russia is.

Those ‘in power’ in Europe are given their talking points from DC and you can rest assured every man/woman of them will do exactly as DC orders them to do for the simple reason that DC knows every tiny detail of every European politicians public….and most importantly private….lives and would like nothing better than to ‘shoot a few for the encouragement of the others’, IOW destroy a couple prominent politicals as an example of what happens if you do not obey. For this reason and this reason only the ‘political leaders’ of Europe pontificate as they do.

For the powers that be in DC and Langley, I have long given up trying to fathom them and their reasoning for the constant verbiage against Russia and Russian Citizens. I will simply say that I have never in my seventy years seen such a rabid, constant and vitriolic stream of pontifications against any country in the world such as is spewing from DC/Langley today. It beggars belief that a one of them can actually believe what they are saying, no one can be that uninformed or obtuse. Or can they be?

Russia is a very complicated and vibrant culture, a mixture of both The East and The West. That culture has been tempered with fire and sword, war and disaster, peace and prosperity, triumph and tragedy for longer than ‘Europe’ or ‘United States’ have been in existence. Russia always springs back from tragedy and triumph, be it war, revolution, disintegration, greed, theft, corruption, no matter what Mother Russia always comes back stronger than before…..as she has this time after the turmoil and chaos of the disintegration of SSSR.

It is very difficult to put the culture of Russia in a short post on a blog, it is impossible to write enough information for those unfamiliar, or even familiar, with Russia to give one an in depth view of that entity that so frightens Russia’s adversaries, and that is unfortunately what ‘our partners’, ‘our friends’, across the sea are….adversaries if not in deed yet then certainly in thought. Quite frankly I don’t know where to begin. Many of you know I write and I have many private, and public, compliments about my novel and how deep a look it gives in to Russia and Russian Culture. I’ll end my little diatribe with a small quote from my current effort, another book that has turned in to a long novel. This is by two very elderly ladies who fought in Sevastopol at the beginning of the war and to the very end and beyond and while I write in ‘fiction’ much of what I write is admittedly true. This small quote from two ladies is true.

Soleena Miranova and Anastasiya Fedorovna speak:

“”She was pensive for a moment. “My husband and I met two months before the Germans came to our city. I was in Army Nurse School and he was in the Navy Academy, both of us in Sevastopol and both of us with eighteen years. Soleena was in the school with me. When the Germans and their Romanians came we had not a full day’s notice from our commanders. My husband and his entire class were given two hours training with old rifles, given five patroni for each and sent to the line to defend Sevastopol. They had nothing else, no grenades, no radios, no helmets, nothing but them and their teachers from the Academy. By the end of the first day half of them were dead but they stopped the Romanians who attacked them. By the end of the second day half of the remaining boys were dead and half of we student nurses were dead, we fought alongside of our boys from Academy and treated those of them and us who were wounded. By the end of the fourth day almost all of our comrades, his and ours, were dead. My husband had three school boys with him and only Soleena and I were alive from our Nurse School. We went on our own to the center of city and there we were taken in to a unit that was going in to the tunnels under City Center. That is where we fought them from for the next three years. In that time we dug many more tunnels and rooms under the city and we often went to _____ and _____ to meet with and help the partizans in the tunnels under _________. The Germans never found us and never knew where we came from or how we communicated. Two of the tunnels went to _________ __ ___ and one from there went to ________ right next to your Regiment Base. There are more now, many more. They are all on the maps we left for you in your weapons room, the maps are on the top shelves above the new PehPehSha we left for you as a gift.”

“My husband, one of his comrades, Soleena and I were the only ones left alive from our two schools when the Germans were forced out. We and many of our comrades did not greet the victorious Soviet soldiers, we stayed underground for months to see what would happen. It was as we expected. Less than a week after the German rear guard was forced out of Sevastopol at terrible cost the Soviets began to take all the Tatari and Greeks and send them to the east, it was years before we found where they were. Soleena and I with some of our comrades took as many Tatari as we could and hid them in the very deepest parts of the tunnels near ________. We kept them down there for over a year and they only came out in small groups after the war was over and Sevastopol was being rebuilt. We had new documents for all of them, we had a complete document making system in the fourth level of tunnels. Their original documents we stored in the seventh level under City Center. All of their families now have their original documents since SSSR left us.”

Both elderly ladies by this time had a tears on their cheeks as they remembered their comrades who are no longer with them. Annushka and Tatyana quietly stood and went to them, sitting on either side of them and saying not a word kissed each of them once on the cheek and took one of their hands in to their hands and held them. “”

This, ladies and gentlemen, friend and adversary, is Russia. Attack her as you will but always remember, Russia has the very distressing habit of ending up in the capitol of those who attack her, witness Istanbul, Paris and Berlin.

Auslander
Author
Never The Last One
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGCY8KK
- Nightingale on July 11, 2016 · at 6:58 pm EST/EDT
  
  Auslander, I always enjoy your messages,and this one is particularly inspiring. My dad was born in a small village South-East of Kharkov. His father (my grand father) fought for Sevastopol and Odessa. I’ve heard many heart splitting stories about those battles and never seemed to get enough of them when I was a kid. Thank you!
  - Auslander on July 11, 2016 · at 8:09 pm EST/EDT
    
    You are most welcome, my lady. There will be many more local stories in my coming novel, we interview those we can and for those who give us permission we record what they say. I will use no real names in my writings but there will be many true stories included in the tome.
    
    Sadly, every year there are fewer veterans on 09 May, 22 June and 03 July. For the veterans who don’t want to be recorded or quoted we listen to them and with their permission take notes of what they say. Their informations will be kept in a special file and the day will come when all is public. Most interviews are quite sad but also quite inspiring. May God bless them, all of them.
    
    Kindest regards
    Auslander
    - Babushka in Oz on July 12, 2016 · at 12:27 am EST/EDT
      
      Ditto to what Nightingale said…
      
      I always enjoy and look out for your posts and especially news from Sevastopol. Our Russian cousins living there are safe, well and happy to be reunited with the Motherland.
      
      Sounds like another book is about ready… good luck.
Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 7:06 pm EST/EDT

The problem with Americans is that they have a pathological belief in their own righteousness and a parasitic sense of economic entitlement.

Americans believe they have a God given right to dominate the world, which they rationalize behind idiotic propaganda lies like “defending freedom, democracy, or the US Constitution.”

And Americans think that they have an even greater right to suck the financial blood of the world through their Fiat Dollar empire so as to maintain their profligate way of life.

Any opposition–no matter how slight–to America’s unipolar New World Order (NWO) is demonized by the USA as an intolerable outrage, betrayal, or simply “evil.”

Indeed, the American Empire is so paranoid that it sees enemies everywhere and even modest attempts to REFORM–not overthrow–the American world order are considered beyond the political pale.

In short, America is a nation of clinically insane vampires possessed by a lust to dominate the world and a fundamentalist ideology to justify this ambition. And they are armed with enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world several times over.

The chances that America can be peacefully be brought to its senses are extremely minimal.

As such, it behooves all those nations with any modicum of common sense or instinct for self-preservation to prepare accordingly for what will probably be an American global war with apocalyptic overtones.
- Larchmonter445 on July 12, 2016 · at 3:14 pm EST/EDT
  
  Americans are isolationist by nature. Trump has tapped that nerve. America is an island in the mind of many, most, Americans. They like being disconnected from all other countries.
  
  Liberals and neocons, fascists both, dream of domination and one world rule under their idiotic ideologies. All evil from America flows from those folks. The average American cares not at all about the rest of the world. We love to be loved, won’t learn other languages, like to go to work, think all other cultures are from the past, enjoy retro and always stick our heads into the future.
  
  We are complex and simple. Someone told us we are exceptional and we liked the praise but don’t know or care that it aggravates everyone else. We were #1 and we love winners, especially if we are the winners.
  
  But for certain, the people have lost their government and the government is a foreign body doing evil. Trump has put it all in the spotlight and the mood and opinion of Americans is shifting.
  
  You’ll like us a lot better soon if he wins.
  
  But understand, Americans are not globalists. They don’t even know what hegemony is. They are uneducated and unsophisticated. But they know they have been on a bad path for at least 15 years.
  
  The American people have been the target of a hybrid war and all its tools. Consider the dynamics of that effort and then you will better understand how their consent has been captured by the Hegemon.
  - Uncle Bob 1 on July 12, 2016 · at 3:57 pm EST/EDT
    
    Quite a lot of truth in that comment. Its “ironic” that the people always whining about the “founding fathers,this.The founding fathers that”. Don’t even know that one of the “founding fathers” main ideas was that the US never get involved with European (by that they meant World) affairs. That the US should never ally with foreign powers and take their problems on us. Another of their ideas was that the government needed to be regularly changed because it would quickly become corrupt. So whenever I hear the “founding fathers” cited by political groups today. I think how much they are misusing those people for their own modern agenda.
  - Anonymous on July 20, 2016 · at 6:48 am EST/EDT
    
    Americans are *predatory imperialists* by nature.
    
    The self-proclaimed Land of the Free was founded as a Anglo colonizer nation based upon chattel slavery, ethnic cleansing, invasion, and the greatest land theft in human history.
    
    The USA has been at war for over 90% of its history since 1776.
    
    That is clearly not the behavior of a peace-loving or even isolationist nation.
    
    To believe otherwise is more American self-deception.
    
    America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41086.htm
Astronaut on July 11, 2016 · at 7:34 pm EST/EDT

I would like to add to my previous comments that I have friends/acquintences (besides my customers) from aforementioned countries (France and Germany), but also in a coupel of other European countries – these are all perfectly reasonable, likeable, decent people – the type of people you would easily be(come) friends with… and amongst them the majority is pro-empire – I have “tested them” in terms of where they stand and so, unfortunately I cannot come to the conclusion that the general population is against “The Ways of Empire”, as much as I would like to. I would venture that perhaps the majority of people today suffer from inferiority complexes and being part of Empire secretly makes them feel “empowered”. Also the fact that the EU has 28 members gives the illusion of security and “overwhelming power” against “Russian agression” whcih is of course a complete delusion in both respects, but if people are so weak, they cannot even perceive any alternative – and the not have the security of the group (-think) which makes them feel so safe, “comfy and warm…”

What I find hard to figure out is: If they all know that potentially there could be a war with Russia, why does this not make them nervous…? I mean, how can they so calmly continue to not seriously question the main-stream narrative? Is it that the modern Westerner has turned into such a zombie that he or she cannot in fact even properly conceptualise the possibility of (their own) death or a real war? Probably.
- ioan on July 11, 2016 · at 8:49 pm EST/EDT
  
  Astronaut
  Exactly, they cannot accept the reality of danger. As long as they could pay the bills and buy what they want, travel freely through Europe, they don’t really care who is in charge over them. And sadly, I think they represent a decent majority. They live the day, as for tomorrow, it seems they don’t really care. Optimism is their argument : nothing will take place, everything will be fine,etc. I know too a lot of these kind of people, no doubt, they are good people but somehow empty. But wait, there is a trick which nourish these feelings : the fear, the fear from change.
Nussiminen on July 12, 2016 · at 3:29 am EST/EDT

“/…/ the people of the West eventually turning back to their ancient historical roots, but they will do that in a new, modern way”

As far as the US and Canada are concerned, that would mean no more Euro-squatters. As for Western Europe, I’m not so sure what “turning back to their ancient historical roots” would entail.
- Ron Chapman on July 12, 2016 · at 10:15 am EST/EDT
  
  G’day Pilgrims,
  
  Anonymous on July 11, 2016 · at 9:37 am UTC says
  
  This documentary is very revealing. Good to see it’s nearly 3 million views with 24k likes.
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
  ‘Anonymous’ reckons this video is a “very scholarly but utterly compelling movie” that ‘ Helps in understanding the present’.
  S/he then opines: ‘Whether Churchill and FDR were following orders to then put down the out of control created monster, or whether they represented the patriotic moral part of UK and US hitting back at the Cabal, is not so clear. I like to think was the latter.’
  
  I disagree.
  Arguably this video is well crafted disinformation which diverts attention from the real planners of WWII and our current dystopic world.
  For starters, the term “Nazis” is a pejorative term coined by a Jew and the correct term for the people causing WWII and our current dystopic world, is “Ashkenazis”.
  
  Hitler used the Ashkenazis’ money but vainly attempted to defeat them and their UK, French, US and Soviet, industrial and war machines, for the benefit of Germany, Europe and humanity. Bormann fooled and undermined him and a Jew doctor slowly poisoned him which, combined with enormous stress, tended to unhinge him mentally as the war wore on. Hitler finally removed the Rothschilds’ agent, Hjalmar Schachtt, from control of the German Central Bank when WWII actually broke out. Also, Hitler did arrange for the issuance of short term three monthly roll-over government credit which financed the buildlng of the autobahns. See eg: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Hitler-s-Economic-Miracle–the-Greatest-ever.shtml
  
  Suggesting that National Socialism and German ingenuity and labour was not a fundamental reason for Germany’s socio-economic recovery is a typical Judaic calumny. To understand the genius and ability of Germans and the desperate plight they faced after global Jewry declared war on Germany in March 1933, and Stalin’s Red Army buildup on German’s borders, see eg: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Did-Adolf-Hitler-Save-Europe-From-Communism.shtml
  
  This video is very insidious Ashkenazi propaganda! Like all good disinformation, it takes a lot of true information and twists and distorts it, AND indisperses within it a few subtle, very pernicious LIES! The more blatant of those lies include:
  The false notion that lots of rich men all over the US, Britain and Europe just “happened” to find that they made a lot of money out of WWI and so they decided to organise and fund Hitler to fight the Soviet Union because they feared that Jewish Bolsheviks might overrun Europe, is bollocks. In fact, the Rothschilds, and other Jewish banksters had been making fortunes by funding societal upheavels, COUPS and wars since, at least, the mislabeled French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars. The Jew banksters and corporatists were also up to their necks in the American Revolutionary War, the Chinese Opium Wars and the American Civil War, to name but a few. Moreover, Albert Pike wrote to Mazzini in 1871 predicting WWI, WWII and the currently evolving WWIII. At that time the Rothschilds were busy financing the nascent Rockefeller Empire and others, including somewhat later, J. P. Morgan.
  In other words this video’s thesis that a loose coalition of Robber Barons came together and funded Hitler, is bullshit. The Rothschilds sought to use Hitler and National Socialism to further their looong held Luciferian conspiratorial plans for Judaic global control of humanity and the planet. If you don’t believe that, what is YOUR explanation for humanity’s current global dystopia?
  
  The claim that the plutocratic Jew dominated and controlled Western elites feared Soviet Bolshevism is bogus. In truth the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and their agents created and controlled the Soviet Boshevik COUP (deliberately mislabelled as the “Russian Revolution”) and remained in secret alliance with the Soviet Bolshevik government until a Christian sect took over the Kremlin and defeated the US in the Battle of the Harvest Moon on 27 September 1977. See eg: Dr Peter Beeter’s Audio Letters.- http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/%5D.
  
  This video also peddles the HoloHoax Blood Libel of the German nation which is probably the real justification for it.
  
  Incidentally, prior to the outbreak of formal WWII hostilities, National Socialist Germany ONLY incarcerated 25,000 seditious criminals and Communist dissidents despite the fact that global Jewry declared war on Germany in March 1933 which justified incarcerating ALL Jews (AS ENEMY ALIENS), and other anti-German government dissidents, in the national interest. Ask yourself: ‘What would the US and its glorious “free world”Allies do in similar circumstances? Indeed, what DID the US do to Japanese Amerikkans after President Roosevelt “organised” Pearl Harbour? It incarcerated them in desert CONCENTRATION CAMPS! Got that? Remember also, that Bolshevik Communists IN Germany were trying to overthrow Hitler’s National Socialist government AND Bolsheviks in neighbouring Poland had brutally tortured and killed over 62,000 ethnic Germans in the Danzig Corridor area of Poland prior to Hitler being impelled to invade Poland to protect the remaining millions of Germans put under Polish jurisdiction by the grossly unlawful Treaty of Versailles.
  
  It really is time to STOP demonising Hitler and Germany. That meme is the reason that humanity is still under the thrall, domination and control of Talmudists. Anyone wanting to avoid WWIII needs to understand who caused WWII.
  
  Peace and Blessings,
  Ron
  ****************
  - Nussiminen on July 12, 2016 · at 5:39 pm EST/EDT
    
    “It really is time to STOP demonising Hitler and Germany. That meme is the reason that humanity is still under the thrall, domination and control of Talmudists.”
    
    Hitler = Just another braindead Westerner practicing European values, yet singled out as an evil monster by his dear own Western kith and kin. But, then again, Stalin and the USSR that he led are way more reviled. Likewise, today’s Ukraine and its glorious “revolutionary” folks are no problem in the eyes of the Zionazis; Russia is. It remains to be seen if a similar “re-assessment” of the Bandernazis will follow in the wake of a fascist defeat.
  - Uncle Bob 1 on July 12, 2016 · at 6:31 pm EST/EDT
    
    I really can not understand how some on a “pro-Russian” and anti-fascist site. Dare to try an put out pro-Hitler and pro-nazi propaganda. While the most foolish part is that some seem to “fall” for it. It seems that any anti-empire and anti-zionist platform sooner or later always attract the pro-nazis. I really can’t understand that,since the Russians themselves totally reject that type of thinking. And only a few years ago (possibly in the future as well) executed those propagandizing that type of thinking.
    - Nussiminen on July 13, 2016 · at 5:00 am EST/EDT
      
      I think it’s actually fairly simple, Uncle Bob 1. Praising/excusing Hitler is a sure sign, as is the unending hyperventilation and screaming against Stalin, that the people involved are unconcerned with Russian public opinion. The latter is deemed as 100% irrelevant next to Western fantasies.
  - Straight-Bat on July 13, 2016 · at 2:41 pm EST/EDT
    
    Ron Chapman,
    
    we are ‘delighted’ to get new info and knowledge on WW II-Germany-USSR. I assume such ‘historical’ facts are the class-room (or even reference) study materials for the zombified children taught by mummified teachers in USA.
F M Shyanguya on July 12, 2016 · at 7:11 am EST/EDT

As regards Russia, O how they dream, and they know their downfall comes through her.
B.F. on July 12, 2016 · at 1:43 pm EST/EDT

Very interesting article and almost completely wrong when it comes to European revival. Had European states remained homogenous from the ethnic point of view, then Europe could have recovered. Alas, Western Europe has been invaded my an army of immigrants and false refugees from the Middle East, Asia and Africa, which will make this revival very difficult, if not impossible. Russia has been revived. However, it remaines to be seen how Western Europe will revive and what will come out of it. One example: The French are expecting a civil war due to the immigrant influx. Once it starts, will it spread ?
Anonymous on July 12, 2016 · at 2:26 pm EST/EDT

Color revolution under way in PNG.

ASEAN frets over South China Sea whilst the Prizes of Sumatra Sarowak West Papua and Papua New Guinea are reclaimed for the colonial powers.
Larchmonter445 on July 12, 2016 · at 2:59 pm EST/EDT

On Collapses:

The USSR collapsed after 50 years of containment, fierce competition, drunken leadership, an ideology that was like embalming fluid to a living body, and hundreds of billions of dollars spent by its adversaries used to weaken and destabilize its economy, after it was skewed by a disastrous war on its border.

Predicting the collapse of other units, like the US, EU, the West is problematic.

Certainly, NATO as we know it is morphing. It came into the spotlight as a fraud of an alliance post-Iraq. It does not work as a military body when the war it should fight is a ground war. It is basically a means of controlling US vassal states (member nations) and an extended air force and missile platform used in regime change conflicts.

Trump spotlighted its uselessness. Immediately, cosmetic changes are being made and new “terror as enemy” mission statement has been written for its charter expansion.

Russia has neutralized NATO’s strongest European unit, Turkey. Russia has surrounded Turkey and contained it economically and militarily, as well as psychologically. It did it with Putin’s will power and S400 missile defenses which deprives the Turks from flying over Syria. Putin’s slight moves with the Kurds has also catalyzed Erdogan to kiss his ring. So strategically Turkey is forced out of NATO by its own rash behavior which scared the hell out of its members, especially the USA.
If Erdogan continues on a path aligned with Russia regarding Syria, fighting ISIS and coming back to a gas pipeline deal, it will be the beginning of what we thought would happen in 2014. Turkey would join Eurasian development, get very rich and enjoy an economic growth beyond its wildest dreams. It would not need membership in EU or participation in NATO. It would be threatened by no one and prosper as a nexus of gas, oil, food and tourism.

Russia has also marginalized Israel as a steady wingman of the US. There is definitely movement by Israel toward a working arrangement with Russia in Intel, Military, gas field development and perhaps some arrangements regarding Golan Heights. It might also touch on Hezbollah. We know Putin has given assurances that he would not transfer advanced weaponry to Hezbollah. Also, Putin has agreed to not defend Hezbollah’s weapons in Syria. A few stand-off missile strikes during the last 9 months (reported as air strikes erroneously) were coordinated in some manner with Russian defenses in Syria. The Israelis have been prudent not to abuse the arrangement and Russia has not harmed its arrangements with Iran, Syria and Hezbollah allowing Israel these missile strikes on human and weapon targets. In the long run, it is confidence building between Russia and its national interests and its regional interests and Israel’s economic and security interests.

Russia in the Ukraine conflict is a game of another sort. It is much more pure military, though it is played out as Minsk 2, Normandy Group, EU sanctions, US hegemony and hybrid war. No, it’s a military dance. Pure and simple. If an offensive by the Ukies with NATO support of any kind, that does not matter (1000, 2000, whatever is on the ground in Ukraine at the time) Russia will destroy everything in Ukraine within 300 kilometers using the Army of Donbass. If the Ukies attack over the border into Russia (including Crimea), Russia will destroy Ukraine as a nation, totally devastating any structure of governance in Kiev. It will cease to exist as a nation. It will be a land of lost peoples, missing a huge swath called Novorossiya.

This dance of US versus Russia played out in the Ukraine may be over in January 2017. If Trump wins the election, it is over. If Clinton wins or some Dem wins, it will go white hot. The Army of Donbass will be enlarged by 10,000 or more volunteers, armed drones, missiles for long range strikes and a fierce war to the death of the junta and Kiev will be fought.

Russia will stay out of it because it is not necessary to join in. If a border of Russia is transgressed, Russia will destroy Ukraine’s national government and leave the country smoldering. Doesn’t matter what the US or NATO attempts, the Ukraine threat is existential not political or economic. A Nazi or proxy nation used to bleed Russia cannot be tolerated. And Donbass cannot be tolerated by Kiev. So, the inevitable tension will force some junta action that will be national suicide.

Nowhere in any of these situations are there impending collapses. Force will be used. Specific, local force. Erdogan felt it and shifted his goals. Israel felt it and shifted. NATO is feeling it and will shift. Right now we are in a seven month window of danger. Obama could do something highly tragic. He has a great capacity for bad decisions. But in November the world will see hope or disaster. Everything then changes. This election will determine the next 10-20 years. The Hegemon may withdraw slowly from global chaos maker. Or the neocon demons could be unleashed.
- ioan on July 12, 2016 · at 6:03 pm EST/EDT
  
  Larchmonter445
  This is a very interesting and plausible analysis, enjoyed reading it. Thanks
Anonymous on July 13, 2016 · at 8:38 am EST/EDT

Let them just dare. They are being opposed by Powers so great that all their efforts are in vain. Woe to them pitiful losers.
Jose Garcia on July 14, 2016 · at 4:31 am EST/EDT

I cannot remember who stated this, but it rings true today, compared to the 1950’s when it was stated. It was either written by Aldoux Huxley or George Orwell. “In the future, the Soviet Union will become like the United States. And the United States will become like the Soviet Union.”
Sergey on July 17, 2016 · at 6:10 pm EST/EDT

“the XXVIth Congress of the CPSU in the Soviet Union in 1981: a touching show of unity in the face of an inevitable collapse.”

This is from the man who never ever lived in USSR.
Nothing was given and nobody could predict arrival to power of Gorby and his ilk.
Personality and personality’s role in history so to speak… Things were not as bad as Sacker thinks. But they became so by the end of 80’s due to cowardly, inept and idiotic leadership.