How is that for a “watch” of human right?
The fact is that western human rights organizations are below contempt. Some are political tools in the hands of the Empire (Human Rights Watch), some are full of western intelligence agents (Medecins Sans Frontieres, OSCE monitors), some are lead by cynical bureaucrats who use idealistic young delegates as cannon fodder (ICRC), some are used by big business as a tool (Greenpeace) while others are quasi-official CIA tools (NED, Freedom House, Open Society Foundation, etc.).
The funny thing in this case is that the photo is not taken in Russia, but in the Ukraine, and the riot cops shown here have Ukrainian unit badges. But then, who cares anyway? It’s not like “truth” is a topic that matters to HRW…
The Saker
The Western media loves to
hate Putin because he doesn’t configure to their garden- variety liberal ruler who gets applauded at fancy conferences. But in Putin what they should really see is not a totalitarian – just a normal, run-of-the-mill Russian semi-dictato
http://www.rferl.org/content/robert-kaplan-geography-fate-nations/24704951.html
In Slovakia open consulate of Novorossia. This is version of Voice of Russia, language is Slovak
http://slovak.ruvr.ru/2014_10_30/Pre-cely-svet-je-nasa-iniciativa-prekvapenim-nikto-to-od-Slovakov-necakal-2496/
It wont be long now. The US is trying to break everyone else before they break. Hence destabilize everyone else first and things will get much worse before it does get worse like you never experienced before. You can expect false flags to come out of the woodworks everywhere. We are at the center of the hurricane and we think the danger is over, wait until we start moving out of the center, we hit the leading wave in 2008. They think they can keep us in the center so as not to get buried but it is only a matter of time…
We had interest rate hikes in Turkey and South America. We had a cotton and federal bond-buying program. Just eight months later in October, we’ve got Ebola. We’ve got ISIS. We’ve got Russia annexing Crimea. We’ve got a rising U.S. Dollar Index. We’ve got pullbacks in gold, silver and pretty much all commodity prices. With all this news, what, in your view, should people really be focusing in on?
Bob Moriarty: There is a flock of black swans overhead, any one of which could be catastrophic. The fundamental problems with the world’s debt crisis and banking crisis have never been solved. The fundamental issues with the euro have never been solved. The world is a lot closer to the edge of the cliff today than it was back in February.
BM: We are the catalyst in the Middle East. We have been the catalyst under the theory that we are the world’s policemen and that we’re better and smarter than everybody else and rich enough to afford to fight war after war. None of those beliefs are true. The idea that America is exceptional is hogwash. We’re not smarter. We’re not better. We’re certainly not effective policemen.
BM: We have two giant elephants in the room fighting it out. One is the inflation elephant and one is the deflation elephant. The deflation elephant is the $710 trillion worth of derivatives, which is $100,000 per man, woman and child on earth. Those derivatives have to blow up and crash. That’s going to be deflationary.
“WCB Resources Ltd. could have big potential.”
At the same time, we’ve got the world awash in debt, more debt than we’ve ever had in history, and it’s been inflationary in terms of energy and the stock market. When the stock and bond markets implode, as we know they’re going to, we’re going to see some really scary things. We’ll go to quantitative easing (QE) infinity, and we’re going to see the price of gold go through the roof. It’s going to go to the moon when everything else crashes.
BM: Oh, I’m in. Not in the general market, but I’m in resources. There’s a triangle of value created by a guy named John Exter: Exter’s Pyramid. It’s an inverted pyramid. At the top there are derivatives, and then there are miscellaneous assets going down: securitized debt and stocks, broad currency and physical notes. At the very bottom—the single most valuable asset at the end of time—is gold. When the derivatives, bonds, currencies and stock markets crash, the last man standing is going to be gold.
https://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/bob-moriarty-flock-of-black-swans-points-to-imminent-stock-market-crash
I too looked for the image to make sure I didn’t have egg on my face when I linked to Saker. Here it is:
https://secure.hrw.org/atf/cf/{d108c9e1-9920-41e7-a617-ef5f171073e4}/KREMLIN-PETITION-BANNER.PNG
From this page on hrw.org:
https://secure.hrw.org/site/c.nlIWIgN2JwE/b.9210131/k.9DF/2014_Fall_Advocacy_Glass_Curtain_TEG/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?msource=SES201410e3
Found via:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hrw+Kremlin+petition
Would you believe, its form the Odessa massacre…
http://tinyurl.com/mbnmqku
First result behind a pay-wall.
“…I did a complete scan of Norton last night and it was fine all day UNTIL I CAME ON SAKER this afternoon. So it’s this blog under attack.
Sharon US”
use Firefox and no script addon. for me it works, I am looking for quality texts on the internet not some JavaScript frenzy pages…
RE: Ebola.. We had a good discussion on it. And things we do know..
Is the US capable of killing tens of millions of people.. Why of course they are. They kill anyone who they think is a disadvantage to them. They kill their own as well if they don’t follow the line.
We know the US experimented on people with chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. So if they are capable of doing all this to their own citizens they would have no morals doing it to anyone else.
What some of us have problems with is how we blame everyone and everything as being involved in this. Remember, not all of us are involved in this and oppose this type of behavior. Some of us spend a part of our lives trying to do good for those less fortunate than us and putting such people in danger because of your blanket beliefs serves no one but the empire of chaos. How about if we, all who read and post here are put in the same boat as tin foil hatters and conspiracy nuts and anything we say is considered gibberish and nonsense. After all you just called some others who were trying to do good as genocidal maniacs.
For many decades WE were considered as the nut cases trying to bring down society, to blame for the worlds problems. And now you want to put some others into the same boat, actually far worse, put their lives in jeopardy and who knows what else.
Such attitudes is why such things as this are possible.. “Its a known fact that when there are demonstrations in the west the police put undercover agents in the crowds to cause vandalism and give them an excuse to break up peaceful demonstrations.”
“The next time your telephone service goes out, the ‘repairman’ who responds may actually be an FBI agent who cut the line himself,” “The next time your cable television service goes fuzzy, your plumbing backs up, or your lights go dark, caveat emptor: the source of the problem may actually be the government agent lurking in his car down the street, waiting for you to call for help – thereby unknowingly consenting to him using a secret camera to record you and the most private spaces in your home.”
The US is capable of mass murder on a scale we just cant imagine even if we know what the had done but to just jump off the bridge because they are trying to scare monger us is not the answer. But dont ever forget, we Humans are genocidal maniacs and we have killed out fellow humans on such scales that defines reason. All of us are complicit in their atrocities. What we CAN try to do is, keep others informed of what is happening and not just throw out blame.
Saker: In Sweden, not long ago a Red Cross boss was obliged to resign due to fraud. Btw we have got a new government (Carl Bildt is gone at least for the time being. The new government has started chasing “Russian submarines” in the Baltic. The there is right now something strange this new government is on the way to recognize Palestine as independant state. Israelis are of course real mad. I can not explain where this comes from since Sweden is subservant to NWO powers (as I perceive it myself).
eeuu y muchos paises en el mundo,estan podridos,corrompidos,los medios masivos EMBRUTECEN,DESINFORMAN,OCULTAN LO K NO COMBIENE SACAR A LUZ,hay gente que pareciera haber sido LOBOTIZADA,ya no piensan,razonan,no hay ETICA,hoy dia se vota o por el menos malo,o por que que hara obras,pero que tambien robara,es decir votar por el que ROBE pero haga obras???
Presentation of the World Cup logo: FIFA shows Crimea as part of Russia
see the picture here:
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/krim-als-teil-russlands-fifa-entschuldigt-sich-fuer-videopanne-a-1000270.html
“For several seconds a map of Russia was shown at the presentation of the official logo for the World Cup 2018 on the Bolshoi Theatre in Moscow. As part of the Russian Federation, there is pictured also Crimea – although the peninsula belonged until their separation in March to the Ukraine, which does not recognize a controversial referendum until today. Two days after the presentation the World Football Association FIFA has apologized now for the video mistake at the presentation and removed the video.
The Organizing Committee engaged a local creative agency with the first showing of the World Cup logo, a FIFA spokesman announced on Thursday and apologized for the incident. “Unfortunately the map of Russia selected and used by the local service provider for the projection has escaped our notice”, he said in the short statement. The offending short sequence was deleted meanwhile.”
For those that don’t believe it’s a genuine HRW photo try this page. https://secure.hrw.org/site/c.nlIWIgN2JwE/b.9210131/k.9DF/2014_Fall_Advocacy_Glass_Curtain_TEG/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?msource=SES201410e3
For those that want to complain to HRW go to this page.
http://www.hrw.org/contact-us
Saker, what’s your opinion on the Union of the Committees of Soldiers’ Mothers of Russia? It’s received some media attention around here, relating to the plight of NGOs operating in Russia. Somewhat like Anna Politkovskaya representing all independent journalists. I’ve never heard of the organization Human Rights House it apparently belongs to.
[from Blue]
Just in passing as response to comments from a few others:
I don’t go to RT much anymore. I t seems to me to have gone downhill, become largely sensationalist like a cheap tabloid, and significantly controlled by the 5th column.
The last few times I left comments they were never published; a lot of trolling is published there, however. It’s not gone entirely, but is not what it was or could or should be.
_Blue
Former Kremlin advisor and election manager offers a unique account of the Russian leader’s ideological formation and worldview. A Soviet-realist analysis of the failings of the USSR and the actual motivations of the capitalist states.
http://newleftreview.org/II/88/gleb-pavlovsky-putin-s-world-outlook
Comments?
NGOs like charities “give” to the recipients which re-inforces the power relation applicant/supplicant,thereby facilitating the continuance of the relationship which gave rise to the need for aid in the first instance, even if the giving is “enlightenment”.
The transcendant relationship would be to share.
Here is a very nice article from CNN
Chile’s ‘Children of Silence’ seek truth
It is interesting that not once is mentioned so called “The West”, not once mentioned the USA, on other hand whatever happens in Russia EU-NATO media involve Putin.
When Russia is in question NATO-EU media [ or western media ] just troll and spread anti-Russian propaganda.
In the article there is no mention of the other fake Human right organization that goes by the name
Amnesty International .
This organization ignores human rights abuse in donor countries such as USA , Australia and others but make a big fuss about abuses in countries unfriendly to the NWO . I had a personal experience with them many years ago in Australia and I decided that I will never give them money or credit .
Morte al nuovo ordine
In the article there is no mention of the other fake Human right organization that goes by the name
Amnesty International .
This organization ignores human rights abuse in donor countries such as USA , Australia and others but make a big fuss about abuses in countries unfriendly to the NWO . I had a personal experience with them many years ago in Australia and I decided that I will never give them money or credit .
Morte al nuovo ordine
@ Anonymous 22:12
“Where did this image come from? I can’t find it on the HRW site”
Here you go:
https://secure.hrw.org/atf/cf/%7Bd108c9e1-9920-41e7-a617-ef5f171073e4%7D/KREMLIN-LIGHTBOX-NOX-BG.PNG
In the article there is no mention of the other fake Human right organization that goes by the name
Amnesty International .
This organization ignores human rights abuse in donor countries such as USA , Australia and others but make a big fuss about abuses in countries unfriendly to the NWO . I had a personal experience with them many years ago in Australia and I decided that I will never give them money or credit .
Morte al nuovo ordine
In the article there is no mention of the other fake Human right organization that goes by the name
Amnesty International .
This organization ignores human rights abuse in donor countries such as USA , Australia and others but make a big fuss about abuses in countries unfriendly to the NWO . I had a personal experience with them many years ago in Australia and I decided that I will never give them money or credit .
Morte al nuovo ordine
@ 31 October, 2014 00:44
I send John Robles some donation on Oct 22. I was following his articles in VoR. However its a shame to close down VoR to merge with Segdonya. He was quite vocal against the Empire and did lots of interviews with people who are against THe Empire too.
OK this seems to be where this comes from. The text mentions Ukraine, so that may tie in with using that image. I believe in captioning every image everywhere, but that’s just me…
http://secure.hrw.org/site/c.nlIWIgN2JwE/b.9210131/k.9DF/2014_Fall_Advocacy_Glass_Curtain_TEG/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp
Greetings from Singapore:
Zerohedge summarized Putin’s Vadai speach as follows:
1. Russia will no longer play games and engage in back-room negotiations over trifles. But Russia is prepared for serious conversations and agreements, if these are conducive to collective security, are based on fairness and take into account the interests of each side.
2. All systems of global collective security now lie in ruins. There are no longer any international security guarantees at all. And the entity that destroyed them has a name: The United States of America.
3. The builders of the New World Order have failed, having built a sand castle. Whether or not a new world order of any sort is to be built is not just Russia’s decision, but it is a decision that will not be made without Russia.
4. Russia favors a conservative approach to introducing innovations into the social order, but is not opposed to investigating and discussing such innovations, to see if introducing any of them might be justified.
5. Russia has no intention of going fishing in the murky waters created by America’s ever-expanding “empire of chaos,” and has no interest in building a new empire of her own (this is unnecessary; Russia’s challenges lie in developing her already vast territory). Neither is Russia willing to act as a savior of the world, as she had in the past.
6. Russia will not attempt to reformat the world in her own image, but neither will she allow anyone to reformat her in their image. Russia will not close herself off from the world, but anyone who tries to close her off from the world will be sure to reap a whirlwind.
7. Russia does not wish for the chaos to spread, does not want war, and has no intention of starting one. However, today Russia sees the outbreak of global war as almost inevitable, is prepared for it, and is continuing to prepare for it. Russia does not war—nor does she fear it.
8. Russia does not intend to take an active role in thwarting those who are still attempting to construct their New World Order – until their efforts start to impinge on Russia’s key interests. Russia would prefer to stand by and watch them give themselves as many lumps as their poor heads can take. But those who manage to drag Russia into this process, through disregard for her interests, will be taught the true meaning of pain.
9. In her external, and, even more so, internal politics, Russia’s power will rely not on the elites and their back-room dealing, but on the will of the people.
To these nine points I would like to add a tenth:
10. There is still a chance to construct a new world order that will avoid a world war. This new world order must of necessity include the United States—but can only do so on the same terms as everyone else: subject to international law and international agreements; refraining from all unilateral action; in full respect of the sovereignty of other nations.
To sum it all up:
play-time is over. Children, put away your toys. Now is the time for the adults to make decisions. Russia is ready for this; is the world?
* * *
Apparently this appeared all over the HRW for quite a few days, but when you follow links where this image appeared on HRW, it seems to have disappeared…
http://goo.gl/ipmwQ1
And the first time it appeared, without the added text, was May 3, on BBC (also the Irish Times)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27268775
Other results here… http://goo.gl/unYiBv
Dear The Saker,
What makes this even more disgusting is this news today :( :(
http://en.ria.ru/world/20141031/194885628/Bodies-of-286-Women-Discovered-400-Listed-Missing-in-East.html
I want to see every single one of those rapists bought to justice!
Rgds,
Veritas
In 2008 HRW falsely accused Russia of using cluster bombs in Georgia. In fact it was Israeli cluster bombs used by Georgia. Responsible for this lie is HRW employee and US war criminal Marc Garlasco.
In 2014 HRW even tries to justify the genocide committed by the nazis in Ukraine:
“The Ukrainian government is entitled to carry out law enforcement and military operations to counter an armed insurrection.”
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/06/ukraine-review-operations-southeast
“Human Rights Watch Misidentified Cluster Bomb”
http://venik4.livejournal.com/18645.html
“Before coming to HRW, Marc spent seven years in the Pentagon as a senior intelligence analyst covering Iraq. His last position there was chief of high-value targeting during the Iraq War in 2003. Marc was on the Operation Desert Fox (Iraq) Battle Damage Assessment team in 1998, led a Pentagon Battle Damage Assessment team to Kosovo in 1999, and recommended thousands of aimpoints on hundreds of targets during operations in Iraq and Serbia. He also participated in over 50 interrogations as a subject matter expert.”
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2008/09/hrw-continues-f.html
Facts aside(that these NGOs are indeed as described), you are all taking this photo out of western propaganda context. Of course it’s depicting Ukrainian soldiers, etc., but as a benevolent force, possibly even there to help that distraught lady who is obviously crying because Putin did…something.
Don’t you guys get it? Whatever is going on in this photo is due to the evil wrought by Putin. So whether you’re a faux progressive who fancies themselves ‘informed’ on the situation, or a mindless knob, the propaganda still works.
“Look what Putin has wrought! Even these brave and smartly uniformed Kiev police can do nothing to assuage this poor woman’s anguish!” etc.
Literally NO ONE I’ve talked to in the US knows anythingabout the trade union building massacre. I’d wager that would be true of at least 99% of English speakers worldwide as well.
Mark Ames @MarkAmesExiled
Head of Omidyar-funded NGO that organized Ukraine revolution takes seat in new parliament. My newest in @PandoDaily http://pando.com/2014/10/30/omidyar-funded-candidate-takes-seat-in-new-ukraine-parliament/ …
This latest twist in Omidyar Network’s murky, contradictory or two-faced roles raises more disturbing questions about what the tech billionaire is up to. On the one hand, Omidyar plays the “adversarial” watchdog of the US National Security State, having privatized Snowden’s NSA files, the largest national security secrets leak in history, for his startup publication The Intercept with Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, the only two people entrusted with the complete Snowden cache.
On the other hand, Omidyar and his wife have been among the most frequent visitors to the Obama White House, intermingling with members of his National Security Council and State Deptartment. Meanwhile, in just the past year Omidyar Network has co-funded Ukraine revolution groups in Ukraine with the US government, and directly financed far-right, pro-business political actors in both Ukraine and in India, where a former top figure in Omidyar Network, Jayant Sinha now serves in the ultranationalist BJP Party and as close advisor to its controversial far-right leader, Narendra Modi. Previously, Sinha had served in a powerful BJP Party think-tank, the India Foundation to elect Modi, while simultaneously working as head of Omidyar Network India Advisors, and serving on the five-member global Executive Committee of Omidyar Network.
Now for a counter thought to the West’s propaganda:
Strength, courage, love, light and peace to the people of the east!
31 Oct is the eve of Samhain, the Celtic new year. It is also the Day of the Dead for us as it was for the Celts, Egyptians and ancient Mexicans.
Apparently, over a thousand years ago, before the founding of the Orthodox church in Russia, Celtic spirituality spread, influencing both Europe and all of Russia.
pb
The bad news keep piling up for Russia: the anglozionist cartel continues to slam commodities and the ruble, tightens sanctions, etc. and what does Russia do? nothing. They just sit there and take it.
Oh no, I’m sorry, forgive me, they did do something: they saved the Ukranian government’s ass ahead of the harsh winter.
Speeches are nice and all, but actions are better.
For the longest time I refused to believe it, but there’s no hope.
Now, if someone could please explain to me why Elstine, the American puppet, personally handpicked Putin?
Thank you.
Facts aside(that these NGOs are indeed as described), you are all taking this photo out of western propaganda context. Of course it’s depicting Ukrainian soldiers, etc., but as a benevolent force, possibly even there to help that distraught lady who is obviously crying because Putin did…something.
Don’t you guys get it? Whatever is going on in this photo is due to the evil wrought by Putin. So whether you’re a faux progressive who fancies themselves ‘informed’ on the situation, or a mindless knob, the propaganda still works.
“Look what Putin has wrought! Even these brave and smartly uniformed Kiev police can do nothing to assuage this poor woman’s anguish!” etc.
Literally NO ONE I’ve talked to in the US knows anythingabout the trade union building massacre. I’d wager that would be true of at least 99% of English speakers worldwide as well.
Facts aside(that these NGOs are indeed as described), you are all taking this photo out of western propaganda context. Of course it’s depicting Ukrainian soldiers, etc., but as a benevolent force, possibly even there to help that distraught lady who is obviously crying because Putin did…something.
Don’t you guys get it? Whatever is going on in this photo is due to the evil wrought by Putin. So whether you’re a faux progressive who fancies themselves ‘informed’ on the situation, or a mindless knob, the propaganda still works.
“Look what Putin has wrought! Even these brave and smartly uniformed Kiev police can do nothing to assuage this poor woman’s anguish!” etc.
Literally NO ONE I’ve talked to in the US knows anythingabout the trade union building massacre. I’d wager that would be true of at least 99% of English speakers worldwide as well.
We don’t have a news thread, so
Russian humanitarian convoy arrives in Novorossiya
well timed to start distribution the day before the elections.
http://dnr-news.com/video/6742-gumanitarnyy-konvoy-iz-rossii-pribyl-v-doneck.html
@mjm:
Zero Hedge (the economic blog that has been wrong about absolutely everything for the last five years) did not write that.
That is a posting by Dmitry Orlov that they linked to.
In the end, I guess it does not really make a difference since Dmitri Orlov has been calling for the collapse of the U.S. for 15 years…
I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but as famed Italian anti-imperialism Gabriele Adinolfi pointed out in a recent interview with a French dissidence organization, the American empire has never been this powerful.
So, as I said in a previous post, it’s nice to hear Putin give powerful speeches, but where is the action? where’s the beef? huh?
i´m fm south america, an english speaker, and i knew very well on the trade union massacre.
We use to read different sites and blogs, but no need to read the post, NYT or CNN or local Msm, because we are bombed by them in very first hours. Our problem is getting rid of their version, the soonest we can. and hopefully we are more than 1%
Pug : You are reading too much conspiracy. There is no relation between Ukraine and India govts. India does very bad economically when ruled by Gandhi Dynasty. in 1990s, PM Rao , followed by PM Vajpayee had corrected the situation somewhat, when again it went down for 8 years. This is the context of Modi’s win. India doesn’t have a lot of money or oil, so business is somewhat necessary.
@ Kat Kan
“Or are they just trying to get anti-sodomy laws removed in various countries, where they are used to discriminate against homosexuals?”
Homosexuality is an age-old part of humanity (~4%?) and has been tolerated in most cultures. However the current propaganda that “the family is bad /is an enslavement of women” together with the meme “homosexual partnerships are as good as families” and the enthusiastic western propaganda against “homophobia” definitely look like another way to discredit and destroy the family. Tolerating homosexuality is ok – but setting them up as a replacement of the family is IMO purely destructive. I feel that children need a father and a mother to get their bearings in human society.
Btw here is some interesting info about the current pro-homosexual propaganda from a former jewish rabbi:
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=808
There is certainly no good or evil in this world. People who deal in absolutes obstruct themselves from seeing the real complexities of the world.
There is however International law and multilateralism. But the reality of Great power politics is very cynical on all sides. To them people are ants and a pool to pull out votes from, to use in internal power plays, (It’s not that simple but it’s a very pronounced theme ).
We should be preparing for climate change and the very real and existing threat against humanity. But it looks like “our” elites have decided instead to push on with geopolitical chess and militarism. Pushing Russia towards China.
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20140928.htm
Well said, Anonymous first post – the inherent exceptionality of every sovereign nation must be restored and the western propaganda machine may not like it but Russia is leading the way forward simply by having first its own land and population as the guiding light.
This powerful message reminds me of a melody often played in the US at July 4th celebrations – Tchaikovski’s 1812 overture. Mainstream media is like the French national anthem, and then there comes…
Goebbels would be proud
Anonymous said…
[from Blue]
Just in passing as response to comments from a few others:
I don’t go to RT much anymore. I t seems to me to have gone downhill, become largely sensationalist like a cheap tabloid, and significantly controlled by the 5th column.
The last few times I left comments they were never published; a lot of trolling is published there, however. It’s not gone entirely, but is not what it was or could or should be.
_Blue
31 October, 2014 09:30
====
You have noticed correctly.
RT is controlled by 5th column
If you post a comment defending Russia, it will not be published if you troll NATO-EU propaganda they will publish.
@ Lysander
Why doesn’t Russia do the same? The main reason may be money. The US has a virtually inexhaustible supply of money for these enterprises, as long as the dollar system remains in place.
Another reason is that Russia, unlike the US, is not really interested in running the entire wirld and stirring the pot anywhere things don’t go their way.
To Lysander@22:19, Putin IS fighting fire with fire, but the right kind of fire. It would be foolish for him to use the tactics he decries so eloquently at Valdai.
No, the fire he is fighting with is that which existed openly in the US before George Bush took power and proclaimed himself to be a war president with new powers to make preemptive strikes – Al Gore was then still able to make powerful speeches in San Francisco against this unConstitutional takeover, but his voice disappeared as the oligarchical tyranny surged, empowered by Clinton in the last stages of his presidency (why do I increasingly see his figure as a Yeltsin lookalike?)
What happened to Russia when the neoliberals came to ‘help’ also happened in the United States, courtesy of ‘think tanks’ generated even in the bowels of my own liberal arts alma mater. We lost our democracy to oligarchical greed as the new century dawned, and we must get it back before it is too late.
@ Oscar
“The new government has started chasing “Russian submarines” in the Baltic.”
German Economic News 25.10.14
“Sweden’s submarine hunters ridiculous – it was the fisherman Ove”
The search for a Russiam sub turns out to be a farce: a Russian speznatz was unmasked – it was a harmless fisherman called Ove. An armed unit was exposed:it was a reporter-team of the newspaper Dagens Nyheter. Nevertheless the so-called Russian attack has lead to an increase in funding for the Swedish Army. Obviously to enable protection against phantoms too.
(my translation)
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/10/25/schwedische-u-boot-jaeger-blamiert-es-war-ove-der-fischer/
:-)
To Anonymous at 14:04, in harmony with your call:
“Strength, courage, love, light and peace to the people of the east!”
For the Orthodox who follow the Old Calendar, today is the feast day of Saint Luke the Evangelist. So we echo the angelic salutation he recorded:
“Peace on earth; good will to mankind!”
test …XbNB
The poster still comes up on the HRW website. Go to the homepage, search “russia”, and the poster will appear as a pop-up.
This inspired me to do a photo markup!
The web page with the letter to Kerry has been pulled. Someone told them the image was from Odessa and that it related to the incineration of women and children at the Trade Union building.
Suurce:
https://m.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/a.1462094710680543.1073741828.1452285018328179/1566519726904707/?type=1&refid=17
Site of HRW petition to John Kerry, which using this photo
http://secure.hrw.org/site/c.nlIWIgN2JwE/b.9210131/k.9DF/2014_Fall_Advocacy_Glass_Curtain_TEG/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp&h=CAQE3Wepy&s=1
@ NoSoFast
“..Homosexuality is an age-old part of humanity (~4%?) and has been tolerated in most cultures…” right there, you’re wrong. If there are laws against it, it is not only not tolerated in that society, but the law can be used to coerce or blackmail or persecute the person. Equal rights really have to include you choose what you do in your own bedroom. Images don’t have to be plastered everywhere, and some regulation for sake of decency is fine by me, but this goes for heterosexual acts, as well.
“.. but setting them up as a replacement of the family is IMO purely destructive. I feel that children need a father and a mother to get their bearings in human society…” It does no harm to anyone to give gays the right to “marry” and bring up children.Only a very small number will choose to do this, so it won’t tear up the fabric of your dream society.
And it IS a dream, as vast numbers of children are already not brought up by a “mother and father” and that is NOT because of homosexuals.
In the US it is mostly because so many fathers are IN PRISON for years, often for minor things like personal use amount of marijuana, or unpaid fines; after being let out of course they are “felons” and can’t get a job so….. For millions more, both parents have to work 2 jobs to put food on the table, and that is about all the kids see of the “both parents”.
In Africa, same again plus the men are fighting, or been killed in endless civil wars. In South America, the men have to go work in the cities to send a bit of money home; in the villages the women bring up the kids by themselves. They too have lost millions of men in “color revolution” wars and exterminations. In Europe every country had to accept women being single mothers, because after the war up to 50% of the men no longer existed; remaining men fathering children with multiple women was the only way to rebuild populations, and government assistance was provided the women to be able to do this. Only in China could a child have 2 parents, because they could have only ONE CHILD… putting them into a position where now there are not enough women, so many men never get a permanent partner; this is already putting stresses on old-age care provision.
So the mother-father-2.3 children nuclear family is already not a reality for probably 60% or more of the world; for many it never has been. It was only a recent invention, anyway; before industrialisation anywhere, children are brought up by their village or their tribe, or at least 3 generations living together.
Michael McDonnell said, “Every time I suggest that the patriotic moral élite invade the GOP to reinforce the Tea Party conservatives, the suggestion is not criticised, just ignored. The Satanic societies cannot be replaced by less than an overwhelming gathering/organising, consolidation of nationalist sentiment within the country’s main party. Ho-hum.”
Fine, I’ll criticize rather than ignore it. The Tea Party is much like an NGO; it is at the service of oligarchs such as the Koch brothers and generally backs the ideology of empire. Tea Party “nationalism” is the nationalism of “American Exceptionalism” and the right to do anything the US wants to anyone in the world in the name of US financiers and oil companies.
Sincere Tea Partiers have largely bought lines of propaganda that persuade them to oppose their own interests. They have been persuaded, based on a mix of truths (largely concerning the very real elitism and venality of the Democrats) and lies (largely concerning the fomenting of cultural, religious and racial conflicts which are irrelevant and destructive, just designed to separate them from all the other people getting shafted by the same elites) to back forces which are just as bad as the Democrats and which collaborate with them on the shared important objectives of vacuuming up the middle and lower class’ money to fatten up the coffers of the billionaires, and beefing up the police state to block any challenges to that agenda. The Tea Party funders wave gays, guns and God in people’s faces so they won’t notice who’s picking their pockets.
One thing worth noting is that the US makes it illegal for foreigners to influence US elections the way the US monkeys with other people’s elections. Then they act all massively upset any time anyone else dares to pass any laws which are . . . just like their own.
hrw never replied to my e-mails about atrocities committed by the fascist/nazi Ukrainian Government, nor does the OSCE from Ukraine, bociurkiw (a Pole?) & gudyma are both useless and simply don’t report what they don’t want to namely the fighting that happened near the middle of this month in Gorlovka, not a word from them. They now receive my utter contempt.
Mudaki debunked :
https://www.facebook.com/contreladesinformation/photos/a.844491318907467.1073741826.844484822241450/844491242240808/?type=1
“The Russians are doing their part. We must be next.”
Indeed, we can’t let Russia do all the work.
http://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/a-century-of-us-demonization-propaganda/
The present day NGOs are the equivalent of the Comintern of a century ago. The US is the successor of the USSR.
http://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/10/30/freedom-house-ngo/
Kind regards,
Dutch
I agree with others here about RT: something has happened with it, it is not the same as it was, it’s definitely got worse/gone downhill; if that’s what they want, I’ll tend to avoid RT. Credibility is so very important, and so very easy to lose, and fast.
Anonymous at 31/10/14 @1441 – well said. The PTB attempt to persuade us via their presstitutes that we alone, isolated oddballs. :)
On October 29th, Russia’s RIA Novosti press agency bannered, ”Kiev Withdraws From Delineation Agreement With East Ukraine: DPR,” and reported that “Kiev has withdrawn from the delineation agreement it signed with Donetsk authorities without any explanation, the deputy prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) said.” There was no announcement yet from the Ukrainian Government, however.
–reported by Globalresearch.co
Also, apparently the fighting is picking up today 10/31. –Penelope
RT is nonsensical as to which comments it allows & which it censors; there’s no guideline published. Also, they no longer permit you to refer to another site even by article title, or author or anything. You can only make brief statements of unsubstantiated opinion. I don’t know what’s wrong over there. Really good coverage out of Russia is at journal-neo.org. It’s a journal of the Russian Academy of Sciences. For an immy comment line Information Clearing House is good. But only the Saker has good, considered thoughtful judgements and deep background on Russia. —Penelope
It rains in Southern CA– for the first time in many months. A cloudburst. But the poor Beggars Night children. At 7:30 PM the skies opened up amid the screams of many ghosts, skeletons, tiny bears and beautiful princesses.
— Penelope
‘One thing worth noting is that the US makes it illegal for foreigners to influence US elections the way the US monkeys with other people’s elections.’
Russia should pass an identical law, first calling it the Learning from the USA Act.
Z said “There’s no good or evil in this world.” and “We should be preparing for climate change.”
Of course there is good and evil,but I’m no even going to attempt to prove it to you.
But Climate Change aka Global Warming is a hoax by the banksters to prevent 3d world development. The earth has warmed by ONE degree fahrenheit in the past CENTURY. The earth warms more steeply for 30-35 years, then cools more steeply, then warms, etc. We will probably continue to warm at 1 degree/century because we are still climbing out of the Little Ice Age. There is NO rise in the oceans; this is propaganda.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-is-here/10783 –Penelope
HRW is heavily funded by George Soros Opens Society. Soros, Gates & Rockefeller are the 3 biggies on drastically cutting world population– especially in Africa.
–Penelope
Doe HRW ever worried about truth?? Could not find any evidence to it…
Purple Library Guy: Okay, you want somebody to comment on the Teaparty? Here goes–
When the TPf was just staring out it had a giant meeting scheduled in a local park here, sponsored by a local radio host. I went, I circulated: many sensible, half-way knowledgeable people. But the program consisted of a guest speaker. It was a CIA guy who spoke to us about how we had “won” the Iraq War! I asked if anyone else could speak. No, the microphone was only for the radio host and his CIA friend. –Penelope
HRW has been made to apologise after a tweet by Sharmine Narwani
Sharmine Narwani @snarwani 19h19 hours ago
Perhaps @hrw would like to explain this? @nadimhoury #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/xLSxwM6DnA
Nadim Houry @nadimhoury 15h15 hours ago
@snarwani Correction: HRW apologizes for mistaken use of Odessa, Ukraine photo http://bit.ly/10a27Fc
and theyve removed the FB post on this
so small victory.BUT they didnt say sorry for defaming Putin.
to: Z @ 9:59
Hi Z, thanks for the link, I’m going to print it, as its hard to read so much on the computer.
But… I read the first paragraph about Putin being ok with bureaucrats taking bribes, and its bullshit…
Sharon Tennison…an American working in post USSR Russia gives her take on Putin and taking bribes…please find her on the internet…too tired to look up the link, but she is a lady who gives lectures everywhere on Putin…she’s an apologist for him and a very great one.
Look her up…she’s very prominent now in her defense of Putin…she knew him during the days of Yeltsin Russia.
Anonymous 14:05
“Now can anyone explain to me why Yeltsin picked Putin”…sorry not exact quote…
Anonymous…look at any of the documentaries on the rise of Putin…he was chosen because of his bureaucratic skills. Even the mayor of Petersburg looks like he can’t do without dear Putin…
Putin is always looking at the paperwork in all the photos of him and mayor Peterburg…its very impressive…
There are many photos of that time frame on youtube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dxOa-h4ZCc&feature=player_detailpage
Its my favorite youtube, but beware folks…its pretty sweet.
Anon 14:27
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I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but as famed Italian anti-imperialism Gabriele Adinolfi pointed out in a recent interview with a French dissidence organization, the American empire has never been this powerful.”
Yes, Anon…Catherine Austin Fitts says the same thing…
Everyone keeps talking about the fall of America…but would not be able to disagree with you in the above quote…
Scary.
bociurkiw (a Pole?)
No, Bociurkiw with the OSCE is a Canadian Ukrainian. OSCE thought they’d better hire some peoole who speak Ukrainian for this job, not reaslising everyone speaks Russian.
OSCE was their in Odessa on May 2. Wrote 2 paragraphs about groups with bats , plenty of police presence. We’re out of here. They are meant to be observing, so when something observable is obviously building up, the get out of there. You saw them at the MH17 scene, a single skyward shot was enough to send them scarpering.
HRW is a fullblown scam, their ONLY wepond is their semi-truths.
And in half of their cases they are right on their critisism, others are blown out of proportions.
Thats how they runn this NGOs, in any society there is victims of both political abuse and econoic abuses, that sometimes is affection some people, as many dont belive, Norway do have political prisoners, but in a fullblown ZioNazis conbtrolled outpost, they go the old Sovjet style, by deeming the person as a “lunatic”, by simply throwing them into an Asylum, locked opne to, so they will not be a “danger” to the society, and who listens to a “lunatic”.
huh
Norway, is a briliant example of a nation witch have done exactly the same as Israel, 100%, the ONLY difference is the scale of it, nothing else, not the land grabbing, forced relocations, faking history, inventing a “indiginous people the so called Sami, witch is 100% fake”. All to manage a takeover and thereby making OUR people losing their farms and so on, given to and sometimes with a premium to genuine “norce” so they could puch US out, and they did it with the help of Sovjet, where the same happened.
Norway is a thruoutly sick society, where the envie is greater force then envjie.
Norwegians was so bad and cruel in the ww2 against Russians and Jugols, that even the Wermah stopped them.
Never ever trust a Norce person since they are genuine Khazars as the Polish are, the scum of this earth.
I am a Finn, considedred to be sub human aka a “mongol”, thats the reason for the NeoNazis hatred against Russians.
We are not humans, never forgett that, this is the Rightwinged leagcy, and this is exploited by ZioNazis to attac Islam and others as Us.
If I was Putin I would simply give them 24 h to gett out of Russian terrritory and banned them for life, and tell the world who they are, the FSB knows this.
The political fallout is marginal, since a lott of people knows this about them.
They lied is Libya.
In Syria.
In Egypt.
In Palestina regading the atrosetys comitted by the Israelis whom is paying them, they will never bite the hand that feeds them.
The Amnesty Int. is an even wurse liers and faker of events.
AI is a western tool as the HRW is and all the NGOs as Norway refused to stopp the payments to NGOs in Hungary, a land witch the HRW and the Norce gov. calls NeoNazis and Fascistic. And Norway is one of the majore founder of NGOs, and now you know why.
And this goes to the rotten Sweds to, and the Finns have also been overrunn by righwinged freaks in the gov. whom all is crawling infront of the ZioNazis.
His probably to drunk to care.
peace
@ Kat Kan
“So the mother-father-2.3 children nuclear family is already not a reality for probably 60% or more of the world; for many it never has been. It was only a recent invention, anyway; before industrialisation anywhere, children are brought up by their village or their tribe, or at least 3 generations living together.”
A recent invention.
As I’m from an older generation I know by personal experience that ~30-40 years ago the family structure you call “my dream family” was the overall reality in Europe. And strangely the decline started with the massive official propaganda of the modern woman:
– family is an enslavement of women
– women /must/ work instead of managing the family (no choice allowed)
– those women who are still interested in the family are “parasites of men”
And as the large majority of women is no different from the large majority of men (i.e. they do not question MSM propaganda) these notions slowly got accepted and the number of families declined.
Concurrent to that came the propaganda of the modern man:
– he must be sensitive
– he must like to “live” (i.e. have pleasure)
– he must avoid violence at all costs (strongly enforced in schools)
with the consequence that the natural defender of society and of the family has become feminized and incapable of defense.
Then came version 2, namely the gender theories:
– the natural attraction between men and women is nothing but a social invention. Heck, genders in general are a social invention so that the special “natural” role of the family is just another social invention. You may as well be homosexual (and mind you homosexuals are /not/ an enslavement of women), and governments have the right to educate children in these more modern ideas.
Well the MSM (and the schools) did their propaganda and we are harvesting the results:
-the family practically destroyed
-the number of children plummeting
(our own children will be a minority in their own country inside 1 generation)
Concurrent to that is the enforced massive immigration of completely different populations that will dilute (destroy) our cultures even more.
My conclusions?
I find it extremely strange that
– the current changes that you describe so well were all accompanied by massive government and MSM propaganda
– all of these propaganda elements resulted in a weakening/destruction of our basic social structures (family, the man-woman relationship, our traditions and culture, human relations in general)
and I do not think that all these concurrent results came about by pure chance. Do you?
My dream family.
Do you think it is by chance that strong and upcoming countries like Russia and China strongly respect traditional values like family, studying hard, working hard etc?
Having just watched ‘Oceana Saker’,
there is an very important 1 hour video of ‘Strelkov’ and fellow patriots asking for HELP!.
Anything you can give! for winter support.
It is subtitled in english,with a Q&A, after speeches by him,and other commanders.
This is not a slick western appeal
these people are walking on their ‘uppers’ i.e. shoes worn out!.
They really need help!!!
Joat
@ Kat Kan
“And it IS a dream, as vast numbers of children are already not brought up by a “mother and father” and that is NOT because of homosexuals.”
A recent invention.
I’m from an older generation so I know by personal experience that ~30 years ago my “dream family” was an overall reality in Europe.
The first change was the propaganda of the modern woman:
– the family is an enslavement of women
– women /must/ work instead of caring for the family (no choice allowed)
– those women who are still interested in the family are “parasites of men”
And as the great majority of women is no different from the great majority of men (they don’t question MSM propaganda) this idea got slowly accepted and the number of families declined.
The propaganda of the modern man started at the same time:
– he must be “sensitive”
– he must want to “live” (i.e. have pleasure)
– he must avoid violence at all costs (strongly enforced in schools)
with the result that the natural defender of society became feminized, isolated and incapable of defense.
Then came version 2, namely the “gender theories”:
– the natural attraction between man and women is nothing but a social invention
– heck, the whole idea of genders is nothing but a social invention; homosexuals are as good as families (and mind you homosexuals are /not/ enslavers of women)
– the government has the duty to educate our children in these more modern views and the families have no right to interfere.
with the following results:
– our family is practically destroyed
– the number of our children is plummeting so that inside a generation our children will be a minority in their own countries
– the addition of enforced massive immigration of completely different people will dilute/destroy our traditions and cultures even more
Conclusions?
I personally consider that all of these results came about because of intensive MSM/government propaganda and interventions (in schools f. ex.). And as all of these aspects of propaganda contributed to a destruction of our basic social structures (family, man-woman relationship,traditions, values and cultures, human relations in general) – I think that this was the objective.
My dream family.
It is interesting to note that strong and ascending countries like Russia and China absolutely respect traditional values like family, hard work, studying hard etc and I don’t agree with the notion that these values are just unrealistic dreams.
NotSoFast
Yes, it has been a farce. There is an investigative journalistic TV program called “uppdrag granskning”(quite good and impartial to be Swedish)in which they demonstrated that past “Soviet or Russian Soviet” Submarine incursions were actually utters or minks. The hysteria at that time was mainly promoted by the then leader of the Moderates right wing party Carl Bildt. Btw I still do not understand why Brazil bought Swedish war planes (called JAS 39). It is not because their quality, they are probably OK (like most of Swedish technology) but to date Sweden has been practically unable to sell any planes due mainly that the US, Swedish “friend” would come in between and sell its F16 (or 18 or 20 whatever) instead.