Today is Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day and I have decided to post three videos which I think provide a good overview of this horrific event.
The Saker
“Ravished Armenia” the original 1919 movie also known as “Auction of Souls”:
The Armenian Journey – A Story Of An Armenian Genocide:
The Armenian Genocide – The Hidden Holocaust – 1992 Documentary
Sorry for the OT, but I saw afp is claiming Kadyrov is ordering his “special forces” to shoot Russian military personnel who enter Chechnya territory. Saw nothing about this at Sputnik, have not yet checked Russian language media. The zionazis at afp have been nothing but zionazi propaganda, so I suspect the story is typical out of context zionazi skewing or made-up goebelsian bs that afp specialises in.
Another zionazi media story has the Russians concentrating forces for a new Novorussian offensive. Definite zionazi cover for their own planned next offensive against Novorussia.
What rubbish are you talking about? Zionazis?
oh my God Saker – I had no idea …
My father survived the march into the Syrian desert in 1915. If he was alive today how hard it would be to tell him that America, the land he loved, is aiding and abetting those that are killing his people in Syria and also supporting the ideological descendents of the Ukrainians (when allied to the Nazis) that mass murdered the Armenians in southern Ukraine in WW2.
Read the history books and you will see the Armenians fled to Syria which became their protector all these years. Robert Fisk has a lot of material on this particular history.
The Great War for Civilization has some documentation.
Fisk is one of the most meticulous authors working the ME. Everyone hates him. I find it endearing when all governments are upset at a professional.
One reason Turkey is trying to kill Assad is the shame of the genocide.
yeah I always like Robert Fisk’s articles
yeah I always like Robert Fisk’s articles
Why? Because the zionazi quisling consistently demonises Syria and writes “zionazi safe alternative” rubbish supporting Israeli propaganda against Syria that plays well in the zionazi media misrepresented as alternative or opposition?
JFC
hmm. Well next time I have an article by him I’ll look for this…
RE: Robert Fisk.. He is a man of total integrity. When the British Intelligence toid journalists to leave Belgrade before NATO bombed he stayed and he was there in the Palestine Hotel in Shock and Awe reporting every day including the day the US military deliberately bombed the headquarters of El Jazzera Baghdad. ( after they carefully told them their exact coordinates so that they would not do so) Go figure.
You are joking, right? Either that or you [no name calling please]. The man is working for corporate media, one of Western oligarchs’ mouthpieces (the Independent). You clearly know not what you speak of.
Name calling? What’s really “name calling” in a sentence where stating possibility that someone m i g h t be stupid (I did not call him stupid, but simply stated there is a possibility that he might be since believing in something stupid). If someone believes in rainbows and unicorns, and you tell him it’s stupid or that he’s stupid for believing in it, it’s perfectly normal and natural to do so.
My initial response was directed to commentator Teranam13 by the way..
Why do I have to read your despicable Jew hate at this beautiful Armenian Christian site?
The entire Bible was written by Jews. (Men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God). God gave His Ten Commandments and other Laws to His faithful, Jewish servant, Moses.
Jesus Christ was Jewish. Jesus celebrated the Passover, all of the Jewish holy days and kept Saturday Sabbath (Friday Sunset to Saturday night Sunset).
I’m a Christian. My brothers and sisters are other Christians and Jews. When you attack Jews, it’s like attacking Jewish Jesus.
I’m grieved and very sad that for centuries Jews suffered many times from the apostate church. Hunted down and mass murdered.
Fisk continually spouts Israeli propaganda about Syria, he’s a typical zionazi propagandist. It’s embarrassing to read such zionazi praise for a zionazi propagandist, but the usual from the zionazi fake left that we all see spammed here now.
what do you mean by that ?
It means he has a problem and cannot rise above it. Ideological gridlock. Idée fixe, is the clinical term for knee jerk, repetitive thought, sometimes reaching the irrational.
You mean like those who keep saying Putler ?
Interpretor on April 24, 2015 · at 7:38 pm UTC
It means he has a problem and cannot rise above it. Ideological gridlock. Idée fixe, is the clinical term for knee jerk, repetitive thought, sometimes reaching the irrational.
Typical websayan personal attack that adds zero to the discussion.
Ann
Look up a few articles by Fisk and note what Fisk says about Assad and the Syrian government and about the Rafik Hariri assassination. Pure Israeli propaganda. He’s a zio-gatekeeper sort. Says some of the correct things so he’ll have cred when he repeats the zio-propaganda.
Fisk is a British journalists so what do you expect from that lot?
They all are british spy agents.
well, my friend who recommended Fisk to me is relying on his step daughter’s opinion of Fisk and she’s from Pakistan…the Pakistanis’ like Fisk.
thanks BotTak….I definitely like Assad, but I don’t know all there is to know about many things……yes, there are a few of those more well known journalists that say bad things about Assad….I didn’t know Fisk was one….The reason I like(d) him was because of what a friend said about him….I think he has intergrity too Teranam 13….but I haven’t read that many articles by him…so I will be on the watch for Zio influence….I have a hard time to believe it….
there is more hidden history about this genocide”, like what about the Assyrians, why only certain Armenian belonging to a certain church were slaughtered. Penny has tried to answer some questions
see here
You are trying to ascribe something about the Armenian Gregorian Church that isn’t there. It is just another way to refer to the Armenian Apostolic Church which is from the name of its first catholicos. The Turks didn’t select Armenians to kill based on anything other than being Armenian.
The Assyrian Genocide is not hidden history. Maybe to you, but not to us Armenians and certainly not to Assyrians.
Correction, in that epoch and place, three Genocides took place, the Armenian, Aramaen and Pontic Greek Genocides.
Thanks for posting it. Needs to be remembered.
The Armenian genocide was orchestrated by a group called “Young Turks”, who in majority were not very Turkish. Google a little on political incorrect sites to learn a little more about this group and who dominated this group (just like in the Bolshevik movement) and come to the conclusion that between 2010-2020 America, Russia and Turkey were taken over by the same group of people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/encyclopedia/young_turks.htm
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/10/25/the-doenmeh-the-middle-easts-most-whispered-secret-part-i.html
After the implosion of the Turkish Caliphate the question was which elite would dominate Turkey. Either the Armenians or Turkish nationalists. That’s the key to the genocide.
But the 20th century is over for good and so is the USSR, USA and secular run Turkey.
At the end of the age of secular progress, expect the return of the sacred.
Thanks, Dutch, for the Donmeh article by Wayne Madsen.
It appears Christian Russians also have reasons to be grateful for enlightenment from Turkey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftaly_Frenkel .
Armenian historians totally reject the Donmeh thesis put forward by Wayne Madsen. It is very clever of the Turks to try to blame the Armenian Genocide on Jewish converts. The Turks spend a hundred years denying it then come up with the clever strategy to use their Jew hatred against Armenians and absolve themselves. Mr Madsen should be a little more careful.
There is much we can blame the Jews for but do not try to use us Armenians to hit on the Jews.
What happened in the run-up to Iraq 2003 has been sufficiently analysed to safely put the blame on the neocons (Mearsheimer & Walt). So here we have a small but determined cohesive group, being able to define foreign policy and put the US army in Iraq.
So why can’t this example serve as a template for what happened in:
– Turkey-201* (Young Turks committing the genocide)
– or USA-1916 (Balfour deal, bringing the US in WW1)
– or Petersburg-1917? (“Russian” revolution)
– or Ukraine-193x, (Holomodor)
– or US-193x (organizing WW2)
A small but determined group pointing in the direction and let the dirty work perform by somebody else (Turks, Russians or Americans). I agree that the Turks pulled the trigger, just like US GI’s pulled the trigger in Iraq. The real question is: who was the instigator of the event?
The hidden hand behind historic events?
If they can do it in US-2003, they can do it in Russia and Turkey as well.
Mel Gibson was right.
The difference between 2003 and the other events is, that for the first time we have the possibility of a global public discussion via the internet. Because it bypasses the media. All of a sudden the world is full of wannabee geopolitical Sherlock Holmes.
John Kerry: “it is difficult to govern with the internet around”.lol
That hidden group that you imply is Jewish is not that at all.
That hidden group which is still causing massive destabilisation the world over is English nation which uses others to attack those whom the parasite finds a competetor.
There was never a question of Armenian elites dominating anything. What the Turkish authorities feared was a further disintegration (independence) of the Christian areas of the Ottoman Empire like what had happened in Eastern Europe.
I went to a talk by the Turkish scholar Taner Akcam who presented documents from the Ottoman archives that targeted a maximum of 10% Christian population in any given area still under the control of their Empire. It was pure, harsh mathematics of social engineering.
Side note. There are still a lot of deniers out there, including, I’m sad to say, the comedian Dieudonné who I otherwise sympathize with. If an official proclamation that sets a numerical cap on a given population is made reality, if that is not genocide then we should get rid of that word from the dictionary.
“The Hamidian massacres (Armenian: Համիդյան ջարդեր), also referred to as the Armenian Massacres of 1894–1896 and Great Massacres, refer to massacres of Armenians of the Ottoman Empire in the mid-1890s, with estimates of the dead ranging from 80,000 to 300,000, resulting in 50,000 orphaned children. The massacres are named after Sultan Abdul Hamid II, who, in his efforts to reinforce the territorial integrity of the embattled Ottoman Empire, reasserted Pan-Islamism as a state ideology. Although the massacres were aimed mainly at the Armenians, they turned into indiscriminate anti-Christian pogroms in some cases, such as in Diyarbekir Vilayet where some 25,000 Assyrians were killed (see also Assyrian genocide)”, took place before the revolution of the Jon Turkler.
While most of Europe is ignoring this, or having arguments about whether they should say the word “genocide” Novorossiya is again leading the way to doing things right.
LPR Ministry of Culture, the Armenian national-cultural society “Krunk” and Lugansk center of folk art combined their efforts to commemorate the day in Lugansk. Some 100 Armenians live in Lugansk, and it looks like all them attended the commemoration service.
During the meeting was opened a memorial to the victims of the Armenian genocide. It wRepresentatives of the Armenian national-cultural society “Krunk” Valery Harutyunyan and Elina Grigoryan., opened a new memorial to the victims. The large sandstone block will remain permanently in place.
A memorial service for the deceased members of the Armenian people was held by Father Basil., followed by a meal shared by all.
“Today we have gathered to commemorate the victims of the greatest tragedies of the 20th century. The whole world has recognized that the two most inhuman tragedy of the past century – is Nazism and the genocide of the Armenian people. And, unfortunately, today we are here on earth to witness its manifestations of Nazism. But inhumanity here we will not tolerate ever. And guys, Armenians, together with all the Lugansk protect land that became their home, “- said at the meeting, Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers LC Vasily Nikitin.
Deputy of the National Council of LC Denis Kolesnikov said that the inhabitants of LC with the Armenian people experiencing his tragedy. “We are together with the Armenians are experiencing this pain, because we know how hard it is to lose loved ones. More than 40 countries in the world to recognize this tragedy. But not Ukraine”, – he said.
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/pcb.1640159802874032/1640156559541023/?type=1
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/pcb.1640159802874032/1640157459540933/?type=1
Somehow I am not surprised that the fascist junta in Kiev doesn’t recognize the Armenian Genocide.
Why is that there is not a single Jewish Hollywood feature movie about the Armenia Genocide (beside that independent production called Ararat)??? Staring some A-list stars like Brad Pitt et al.???
Why are there many Jewish Hollywood feature movies about Tibet???
And of course every so often a Holocaust re-education aka brainwashing feature movie staring A-list stars directed by A-list directors.
WHY???
“Why is that there is not a single Jewish Hollywood feature movie about the Armenia Genocide”
For the same reason you never hear them about the Holomodor or the origins of communism: it would implicate them too much. Therefor: “let’s blame communism, that failed anyway, on goy Stalin. And now back to the Natzis, move on, nothing to be seen”.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
P.S. the time frame in my first post should obviously be 1910-1920, not 2010-2020.
@Dutch
The numbers Westerners operate with are always heavily multiplied when describing their enemies, and massively understated when describing their own atrocities.
re: “Why is there not a single Hollywood movie..”? For the same reason there are not very many movies about the 200 year horror watery holocaust of the AfroAmericans called “The Crossing” —some lives are more important than others. And the Native American experience is totally rewritten mostly so that even when told like in “Dancing with Wolves” the central figure is the white guy. Soon the truth will be out more and more. Note the truth about the drone terrorist campaign by the USAF. Bless the Truthtellers–thus comes the true Freedom.
If you control the narrative i.e. the stories people tell and the music they sing you control the emotional intelligence of the masses. Then, let the manipulation begin so keep on blogging.
There have been several attempts to make ‘The Forty Days of Musa Dagh’ into a movie but every time the US State Dept has stopped it.
The US government has always been afraid to upset Turkey.
Several movies have been made that refer obliquely to the Armenian Genocide. One is America America by Elia Kazan that shows the Turks attempting to burn Armenians alive in a church. Charles Bronson plays a gun for hire in Turkey in a movie where in one scene he shoots soldiers marching Armenians along a road. Neither of these movies place the scenes within the larger context of the Armenian Genocide which will not be allowed by the US State Dept.
America, a free country, NOT!
David Chu…I had a friend whose son is an aspiring actor…and he said that you can’t even get a job in Hollywood unless you’re Jewish….and come to think of it…there are many Jewish shows….
My question(s) was rhetorical of course!
The Nazi Germans had nothing in terms of propaganda over today’s Jewish Hollywood and their kosher buddies like the Limeys.
The greatest and most successful propaganda in history is . . . the James Bond “franchise”. Think about it. You get to pay to “enjoy” watching MI6 in action! And you cheer on Mr. Bond!
BTW, one can be successful in Jewish Hollywood by . . . having a Jewish surname like Whoopi what’s her name! And by performing that thing the Jewish moguls just love for their afternoon siestas!!!
After seeing survivors of the genocide in Syria in 1929, German author Franz Werfel began writing his historical novel “The Forty Days of Musa Dagh”.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_vierzig_Tage_des_Musa_Dagh
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDie_vierzig_Tage_des_Musa_Dagh&edit-text=
Armenians in the US liked the book. In 1936 an Armenian priest said in a sermon: „We were a nation, but Franz Werfel has given us a soul“
Its reception in the Jewish community is described here:
“The Banality of Indifference: Zionism and the Armenian Genocide” by Yaʾir Oron –
http://books.google.de/books?id=WTn2MeIyOoMC&pg=PA293#v=onepage&q&f=false
The book was banned in Nazi Germany in 1934 and Werfel was expelled from the Prussian Academy of Arts.
When I visited Iran a few years ago, I met the Armenian quarter of Isfahan, Julfa, which was established by Shah Abbas I in 1606, and where most Armenian community in Iran lives respected since then. It is a lovely neighborhood with cozy cafes. Alongside Vank Cathedral, with wonderful frescoes, there is an excellent museum, where I decided that, when I returned home, I had to read about the Armenian genocide, but, for lack of time, unfortunately, I have not yet done.
You remember me now, Saker, this pending task, still among my travel notes.
Thank you very much for the videos.
My respects to the Armenian people. Maybe, I will be visiting you in the not too distant future…..
http://trajinandoporelmundo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/vank-catedral-jolfa-isfahan.jpg
http://trajinandoporelmundo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/pinturas-vank-catedral-isfahan.jpg
http://trajinandoporelmundo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/vank-catedral-cielo-tierra-infierno.jpg
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Lovely photos Elsi. Thanks.
Wow saker cant believe you posted these videos. I grew up watching these videos. It has become too depressing to watch these anymore. But thank you.
Terrible thing happened to Armenians, and nobody was ever punished for it. Westerners have always been trying to protect their sick Ottoman friend… they even went united (Brits, French and Turks) into a war against Russia. And Turks today don’t even recognize or show any remorse for mass killings of Armenian women and children… Now you know why everyone hates Turks and Westerners. You know, in all Hitler’s carnage and idiocy something at least good came out of it: He did make Jews pay a heavy price for their meddling in sovereign German affairs. All others were too stupid even to notice what Jews were doing, except Stalin. Stalin recognized no authority but his own, and he did purge Jews from the party and system in USSR after which so called “cold war” followed. Purging of the Jews from the system by Stalin is the reason why “Cold War” happened. Had it not been for Stalin, we would all have been under absolute tyranny of the Jewish overlords long ago. Most don’t know how much they own to Stalin. And if Hitler hadn’t been so stupid, he would have made an alliance with the USSR and crush the Anglos. Europe would be divided into German and Soviet Empire, and both of them would have been much better alternatives to live with than under this Western neo-liberal sickness and tyranny we are suffering from.
Forgot to add. The reason why you’ll see Western media, historians and scholars bashing Stalin is because he purged the Jews from the party. In few months he totally destroyed Jewish hold on communist party and entire Soviet system, and after that comes Western bashing of Stalin by massively overstating the numbers of killed in the purgers and for “antisemitism” (there had not been antisemitism” before that, and to stress how stupid disgusting Western filth is, Stalin’s mother was Jewish, he was half-Jewish). You see how those disgusting Westerners operate? They think the whole world is stupid and they can get always with everything. Filth.
There was nothing Jewish about Stalin, the closet-antisemite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism
Stalin was a despotic monster, but he was also the one who sabotaged the Jewish alliance between the US and USSR, brought about in 1933 by two Jewish diplomats, William Bullitt and Maxim Litvonof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6hqfcoXfmc
Already in the twenties, Lenin and Trotsky were afraid of Stalin and that he might sabotage the Jewish branch of the communist movement with global intentions and that is what happened.
Stalin was indeed an anti-semite, but he certainly was a communist, who had no other goal then conquer all the non-communist parts of Eurasia.
The anti-Jewish purges of the end-thirties had among others as a goal to appease Hitler and goad him into the non-agression agreement, which entirely came about on the initiative of the Soviets. The goal was to encourage Hitler to intervene in Poland and solve exactly the same problem which Putin choose not to solve in Donbass (because Putin has learned from Poland and how it was used by the US to generate a war in Europe). Hitler intervened and walked straight into the trap the US and USSR had constructed for him.
Stalin openly admitted to von Ribbentrop in 1939 what Hitler had said in Mein Kampf: ‘yes, Jewish communism” is rooted in fact and I intend to do something about it’. And he did!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSAB5OPkwQ
(Putin saying the same thing in the lion’s den)
The main reason why the West bashes Stalin is because of his breach with Jewry and his “communism in one country”. It is that facet that was the main reason why the Cold War came about. Stalin helped enabling the communist revolution of 1917, but he also changed the original direction and eventually destroyed “Jewish communism”.
Now the Jews only have the US and UK and unreliable European allies (apart from the ever dangerous Poland, that is willing to help the US create another world war in Europe, like in 1939). As we speak is the US being pushed out of Pakistan by China (Pakistan and India SCO member later this year) and out of Yemen by these Houthi’s. The Saudi’s are with the back against the wall. And once Saudi-Arabia will fall, either by ISIS, al-Qaida or the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptians will probably get Morsi out of prison. Turkey could also join SCO soon.
Europe meanwhile is ever more pushed to the right in defense against the colonizers from Africa and the right sees in Russia a beacon against America.
Without the Middle-East and Europe, America is finished. It will fall apart with many big American cities turning into Grozny’s-2000.
Yes, Stalin changed the original Jewish direction of the communist movement, and that was the reason for the bashing of Stalin by the so called West (which is ruled by predominantly Jewish oligarchy clustered around a few Jewish families with the den in City of London). I think the OP was saying exactly that. As for “antisemitism,” how could someone be “antisemite” if he is half-Jewish himself (the OP is correct in stating Stalin’s mother roots, which were Jewish)? But even more importantly, how can one be antisemite if he has nothing with semitism to begin with? You do know that Jews coming from that part of the world are Askhenazis…Khazars, I hope. Khazars are not Semites. Crazy, no? But even more importantly than that, you correctly state that the root cause for bashing of Stalin by the Western establishment, and yet you go and refer the audience here to Anglozionist source: of course they accuse him of “antisemitism” because he ended the dream of Jews controlling the communist movement, and even though he was Jewish himself , plus the fact that the Khazars from which Jews in that part of the world (and most of Jewish population in the world I think) originate were not Semites. The OP’s commentator had correctly noticed the whole stupidity of it. Kudos for that. Oh, and I must correct you in reference that US and USSR got Germany into a trap. It was Britain. It was always Britain, or rather City of London, the first as well as the second time around. The US, like all of the so called West, is probably ruled by City of London itself. You know who Emil Georg von Strauss was? If not, he was a Rothschild associate, an employee of Rothschild syndicate. Well, the reason he is so interesting is because it was his typewriter that wrote Mein Kampf when Hitler was in jail.
Really, though, how do you expect people to take you seriously when you keep referring to Anglozionist sources, which are proven to come from propaganda intentions and, what’s more, which are proven to come from a serial, pathological liars?
p.s.
Ah, and I see on your website that you place full trust in info of Empire’s German mouthpiece Der Spiegel. Der Spiegel is counterpart of New York Times, The Telegraph and the rest of the Anglo-Americano-Zionist Empire mouthpieces. Their very existence is to disseminate lies and propaganda. O see that you constantly keep avoiding Eurocrats crap. I only hope you understand that those EUSSR bureaucrats work for those Anglozionist oligarchs that rule English speaking world. There can never be an independent European policy with Anglo-American creature – EUSSR – around. You know that. Or you should. At least you should adapt your “Eurosphere” theories to that reality. There is no “Eurosphere” — it is ruled by Anglo-Americano-Zonist empire, EU is part of their Empire.
“Ah, and I see on your website that you place full trust in info of Empire’s German mouthpiece Der Spiegel. Der Spiegel is counterpart of New York Times, The Telegraph and the rest of the Anglo-Americano-Zionist Empire mouthpieces. ”
If you would have taken the time to study my site a little you would have concluded that I see things exactly as you do. Der Spiegel is the enemy.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/der-spiegel-tracker/
“As for “antisemitism,” how could someone be “antisemite” if he is half-Jewish himself… (the OP is correct in stating Stalin’s mother roots, which were Jewish) ”
That’s absolutely rubbish, Stalin was NOT Jewish, not even half. His mother was Orthodox:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketevan_Geladze
Stalin even attended a Christian seminary in order to become a ** PRIEST ** (how Jewish is that?), before he decided that his talents were more in the noble business of bank robbery:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/02/26/stalingrad/
This whole idea of assuming that Stalin is Jewish, is an idea pushed by those who want to put the full blame of the communist disaster on the Jews. The original tiny Bolshevik party had ca. 10,000 members, of which merely some 370 were Jews or 4%. The point was that they all occupied leadership positions. Stalin was a communist leader as well, but not a Jew. And that was the reason why he betrayed Trotzkyite international communism and preferred National-Bolshevism (“communism in one country”), which you might as well call (with some reservations) fascism.
“You do know that Jews coming from that part of the world are Askhenazis…Khazars, I hope. Khazars are not Semites.”
Yes, I tend to believe in the Khazar hypothesis as well. If they are “semites” or not is irrelevant. What is decisive is their messianic believe in themselves being the “Chosen People”, a hyper-racist concept, causing these people to think that they should inherit the earth and start to act on that belief, with disastrous results for the “Goyim”. Their hobby in life is to construct ideologies with which they can construct a power structure with themselves on top. Bolshevism is one of these ideologies and failed in 1991 (actually in 193x, when Stalin got the upper hand). Multiculturalism and the holocaust is another one (is going to fail as well, leading to the breakup of the US).
The 20th century was the Jewish century and that century is drawing to a close.
Europe (Paris-Berlin-Moscow) and China, that’s the 21st century.
“Oh, and I must correct you in reference that US and USSR got Germany into a trap. It was Britain. It was always Britain, or rather City of London, the first as well as the second time around.”
No, only the first time.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/britain-masterminded-ww1/
Chamberlain did not want WW2, but Churchill wanted that on behalf of international Jewry. He organized WW2 by plotting at the same time with Roosevelt and Stalin, all behind the back of the British Chamberlain government:
About really happened in WW2:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/03/22/greece-wants-ww2-reparations-from-germany/
About the broader context of the geopolitics of the 20th century:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/03/24/risk-geopolitics/
I read in some book(s) that Ketevan Gelandze was of Jewish origins (both mother and a father), that her family crossed to Orthodox Christianity, but I don’t remember which book(s) it was, so cannot direct you to it at the moment (would have to search it first before I do). Just remember that it was common then to cross over to different religion just as it is now. I have a Jewish friend who doesn’t like to be called Jewish because he isn’t religious, calling Jewish offends him even though he comes from a Jewish families, from both his mother and his father’s side. How Jewish is that? But regardless of Stalin’s religion orientation, the truth is that Jews from that part of the world are no semites. They are Caucasians, so calling someone “antisemite,” when in fact those Jewish people there are not semites, is kind of stupid, you will admit? And don’t forget that Bolsheviks who put Stalin in power were mostly Jewish.
But on the most important part, the hold of the party and power of the USSR in its inception, you are dead wrong, my friend. From 502 high functions in USSR, after the Bolshevik revolution, 459 belonged to the Jews. Lenin – mother Jewish (family name Blank); Trotsky – Jewish; Grigore Zhinoviev (Apfelbaum), internal affairs commissioner- Jewish; Volodarsky (Kohen) – Jewish; Samuel Kaufmann, Ethel Knigkiesen, Schmidt, Steinberg, Pfeningstein, Vostanoleinin (Schlichter), Larin, etc. – all Jewish. Like I said, out of 502 high functions of USSR as a state after the Bolshevik revolution, 459 belonged to the Jews. That is 91,4%. Pretty big number, much higher than 4% you are selling there, don’t you agree?
p.s.
As for Britain’s role in WW2, lets just remember that the war started by Britain and France declaring war on Germany on 3rd September 1939., so that says everything about British role in the war — Britain started the war. I very much doubt they would have started the war if they hadn’t been preparing and scheming for its years and perhaps decades before.
p.p.s.
Sorry, I forgot you stress confederation of Moscow, Berlin and Paris instead of some Anglo construct EUSSR, but still it’s not well defined construct I think. Europe has no singular identity, but of course that does not mean Europe cannot unite its forces to work for a common goal(s).
“but of course that does not mean Europe cannot unite its forces to work for a common goal(s).”
Exactly.
No Euro-Siberian super state but ‘Europe of the Fatherlands’ confederation, including Russia. Contents:
– military alliance, to balance China
– combined interplanetary space program
– euro as the Euro-Siberian business currency (not dollar or Yuan or Deutschmark), next to national currencies like French franc and Russian ruble
– a lot of organisations that are already in place (Council of Europe, soccer competition, song festival, etc)
And that’s it.
No EU ‘ever closer union’. A voluntary a la carte confederation of sovereign states that have decided that they are part of the same European civilization circle (white race and of Christian heritage).
I see. And who gets to control that currency… euro. Goldman Sachs’ Mario Draghi or some other Western oligarchs’ servant? Or perhaps Paris, Berlin or Moscow? Moscow has its realm, it is Paris and Berlin which do not… which are occupied. Moscow is sovereign, Paris and Berlin are not. And Moscow certainly does not need Paris or Berlin in a military alliance: Paris and Berlin don’t have militaries and Moscow doesn’t need anyone “to balance China” for China is Moscow’s ally and certainly well aware of impossibility battling the world’s most strongest nuclear power.
What does Paris and Berlin bring to the table? They cannot even stand alone… they are occupied by Anglo-American empire. You assume Moscow is stupid. China does not. Perhaps that is why Moscow has an alliance with China, that is why they will build future together and not with some occupied former powers (not to mention, who have many times waged wars against Moscow and killed tens of millions of Rus people — there is certainly baggage from the past there) not even able to claim their sovereignty.
If you think such alliance can exist,you ought to address the question of control: Moscow won’t surrender its sovereignty to some European charlatans who have many times waged wars against her in order to claim it, and Moscow certainly doesn’t want or need “a military alliance to balance China.” Moscow’s powerful nuclear arms are perfectly capable of balancing the entire West who has many an order of magnitude powerful military than China has or will probably ever have, and not to forget that Moscow has intertwined its economy with the Chinese… they are building mutually beneficial future for themselves, as allies. That’s the stuff you don’t address my friend.
“I see. And who gets to control that currency… euro. Goldman Sachs’ Mario Draghi or some other Western oligarchs’ servant?”
A board of European directors without people with a an Anglo past.
“Paris and Berlin which do not… which are occupied.”
With Merkel and Hollande we have indeed and unfortunately exceptionally weak leadership, but Putin, Schroeder and Chiraq/Villepin could very well do anti-Anglo business in Iraq-2003.
Europe got rid of ZOG-USSR and now ZOG-USA is next:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/the-american-slavyansk/
“Paris and Berlin don’t have militaries”
You exaggerate:
https://deepresource.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/militairy-spending.gif
Europe combined spends much more on defense than Russia and France has nukes and can destroy anybody. EU has 500 million people (+ now 45 million Ukraine), Russia 140 million or so. In Europe nobody sees Russia as a threat (anymore). Russia could indeed conquer Ukraine in 1-2 weeks, Russia cannot conquer Europe. Russia can indeed destroy Europe yes (and get destroyed itself).
“Moscow doesn’t need anyone “to balance China” for China is Moscow’s ally”
The only reason why SCO exists (first joint 4000+ military exercise in 2007) is because of the imperial posturing of Washington, not because Putin wanted this alliance. China has 10 times as many people as Russia and only half the space, bordering empty Siberia. And an economy, four times that of Russia. If you don’t see this as a major geopolitical fact, than you are naive. But hey, don’t believe me. Listen to your own leader. He is on my side, not yours:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/09/19/putin-confirms-ambition-paris-berlin-moscow-alliance/
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/24/armenia-picture-of-the-day/
“What does Paris and Berlin bring to the table?”
The largest and most sophisticated high-tech economy on earth.
Well, lets see how good that EU economy is going to be when it implodes soon. I am reckoning EU will get down before US does. Time will soon tell. As for Chinese economy, it benefits Russia having powerful economy in the Far East for Russia is being less reliable on the West, from where all the ills Russia has caught over the last couple of centuries came from, thus you know. It is in Russia’s interest to have thriving Far East, as she develops herself by having prosperous people on her southern borders — it creates demand you know. And military spending means nothing, my friend. What has all that military spending got to US: Russia has better weapons will far less bucks spent on defense. By your logic, US should have trashed Vietnamese with hundreds of times more spending than Vietnamese had had, right? But guess what? US lost there. Military budgets don’t win wars. It’s far more complex than that. You can introduce yourself to what a trillion dollars US F-35 program has brought to US Army. From Pierre Spray, one of the creators of F-16 and A-140 Warthdog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQB4W8C0rZI
You overestimate US military power my friend. As for numbers regarding various countries’ populations, in the case of nuclear war, such numbers don’t make any difference apart from potentially huge casualties. 330 millions of Americans and 500 millions of Europeans would perish in a matter of months. Of course, it wouldn’t be just Americans and Europeans that would perish, a nuclear war between Russia and anyone else would kill most of human population on Earth, possibly even exterminating humans as a specie (search about “nuclear winter”).Weapons of today make wars completely different thing than they used to be in the past.
Regarding Putin not wanting Russia to be part of SCO, that’s nonsense my friend. SCO was created in 1996, 7 years before Schroeder and Chirac’s 2003 good relationship with Putin. Good relationship is one thing, alliance is the other… a completely different thing.
But still you did not address the control part of currency there. Someone past is irrelevant, physical location of banks printing such currency is of far more importance. Perhaps having central bank offices in all three capitals would make that part workable?
“Well, lets see how good that EU economy is going to be when it implodes soon. I am reckoning EU will get down before US does. Time will soon tell.”
Greece probably, but not the rest of the EU. The financial situation in the US is worse than in Greece. The US is only kept alive by the dollar reserve currency.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/the-real-state-of-western-finances/
“As for Chinese economy, it benefits Russia having powerful economy in the Far East for Russia is being less reliable on the West”
Sure, I am NOT advocating hostility between Euro-Siberia and China, just geopolitical common sense and balance. I fully support the Chinese New Silk Road strategy and Chinese proposed integration of Chinese and European economies, as well removal of US influence from Eurasia.
“the West, from where all the ills Russia has caught over the last couple of centuries came from”
That’s self-pity, not rooted in fact. Both in WW1 and WW2, Russia, on a strategic level, attacked Germany, not the other way around.
WW1 – In 1914, Russia gladly let itself being used by Britain, for geopolitical gain (Bosporus, Constantinopol).
WW2 – since the consolidation of Bolshevik power in 1922, the USSR set itself the goal to bolshevize the entire planet, to begin with Germany and the rest of Europe. Read Viktor Suvorov and other sources to understand that the German attack of June 22, 1941 was a preemptive attack, carried out by a desperate Germany, that was attacked from all sides (Poland, France, Britain, USA, USSR, Norway, Holland, Belgium, Yugoslavia, Greece, Canada, Australia, India, Morocco, Algeria), against a USSR that was in a state of full mobilization, from Wladiwostok to Smolensk.
I agree that military spending is not equal to fighting spirit.
The US got its ass kicked by third world nation Vietnam.
The USSR got its ass kicked by third world nation Afghanistan.
Decisive is belief, fighting spirit, not military hardware.
“You overestimate US military power”
Huh? Where did I say anything positive about US military power, it is a paper tiger against a real adversary (but can still blow up the world). I agree that Russia in 2015 would fight much harder if its own soil is attacked, than the USSR did in foreign Afghanistan.
“Regarding Putin not wanting Russia to be part of SCO, that’s nonsense my friend. SCO was created in 1996, 7 years before Schroeder and Chirac’s 2003 good relationship with Putin.”
SCO was indeed created in 1996, but not as a military alliance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation
“The Shanghai Five grouping was created 26 April 1996 with the signing of the Treaty on Deepening Military Trust in Border Regions in Shanghai by the heads of states of Kazakhstan, the People’s Republic of China, Kyrgyzstan, Russia and Tajikistan…. On 24 April 1997, the same countries signed the Treaty on Reduction of Military Forces in Border Regions in a meeting in Moscow.”
This was about ‘reduction of military forces in border regions’!!
The embryonic ‘military alliance’ began only in 2007, with minimal joint military exercises, not 1996.
“But still you did not address the control part of currency there. Someone past is irrelevant, physical location of banks printing such currency is of far more importance. Perhaps having central bank offices in all three capitals would make that part workable?”
Every EU euro-nation currently has a central bank that is subordinate to the ECB in Frankfurt. In a post-EU confederal setup of Euro-Siberia this could continue to be the case.
Maybe I should clarify, that I do NOT advocate Paris-Berlin-Moscow to happen before either the US has collapsed/balkanized or before the US is embroiled in a war with China. A premature confederation would drive Washington into the arms of China, that’s the last thing we want to see happening:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/17/wallerstein-on-european-american-relations/
Indeed, but Greece has hundreds of billions of derivatives tied to itself. Call on or derivatives will most likely start a chain reaction which will bury most of European financial institutions. They are extraordinary leveraged – around 30-1, which means only ~4% move in value of their capital and they are broke… insolvent. The value of Greek derivatives is high enough to start that chain reaction. Deutsche Bank alone has around 70 trillion in derivatives tied to itself, and how big German GDP is, hm? And Greece is not even the biggest problem, France, Spain, Italy and Portugal are.
I was not talking about WW1 and WW2, but from beginning of 19 century in fact. After Napoleon, then started English and French ganging up with the Turks against Russia in Crimean wars. Etc. Russia wasn’t used by the Brits in WW1, she went to war in order to liberate Constantinople from the Turks, and if the Bolshevik Jews hadn’t started a civil war, she would have prevailed in that quest. And really Viktor Suvorov? He was a fiction writer and a traitor for god’s sake. His books Control, Choice and Snake-eater were fiction books ffs. You don’t trust a traitor as a rule. That is something one should know from an early age. I could also write s book and fill it up with statement and stories about which there are no proofs and evidences at all. Everyone can. The truth is, Stalin stretched out his hand toward Hitler in order to make an alliance against Americans and Anglos, and Hitler pissed on it. The only strategic ally Germany could have had in order to win the war was USSR, and they blew it. Had they made an alliance, they would have moved against Anglo-Americans together, and they would have crushed them.
I am not talking aboput fighting spirit at all. I am talking about military hardware. Russia has better weapons than US. It’s a fact. Russian rocket technology is unmatched in the world. US cannot even go into space because it’s using Russian RD-180 engines, you know. Better aviation, better submarines, better antiaircraft defenses, etc. With the new generation of tanks (T-14 Armata platform), she will have better tanks which has traditionally been something the West used to have an upper hand at. Not any more.
SCO formally is not a military alliance even now you know. Exercises are irrelevant.
“Every EU euro-nation currently has a central bank that is subordinate to the ECB in Frankfurt. In a post-EU confederal setup of Euro-Siberia this could continue to be the case.“
No. National central banks have no control of a currency the euro area is using — over euro; only ECB has. Only ECB can print or digitally conjure whatever amount of currency units it wishes, Greek CB, German CB, French CB, etc. cannot. You don’t seem to realize the difference, and it is a huge one. It is the most important aspect of everything. By controlling the supply of a currency a nation is using, you control that nation.
“Maybe I should clarify, that I do NOT advocate Paris-Berlin-Moscow to happen before either the US has collapsed/balkanized or before the US is embroiled in a war with China. A premature confederation would drive Washington into the arms of China, that’s the last thing we want to see happening.”
Nah, it’s not important. The US will collapse and that European part of US will only get incorporated into Eurosphere, as you stated. China gets Australia, remember.
Oh, and let us hope and pray US implodes socially as you stated there. It will end US as we know it, break it apart just like other unnatural constructs. The social collapse will have to come after the economic one. The only thing keeping those social seams between different people, cultures, races and ethnicities not meant to be mixed together (as they cannot keep developing their own culture and identity, and not to forget, the nature of the various human groups is the one of competition) standing in place is prosperous economy able to create enough jobs. With the dollar gone, so goes US parasitism over the rest of the world and with it comes death of the US itself. All Empires had overreached, and broke apart soon afterwards. They get consumed by their hubris, stupidity, corruption and moral decadence as the moral and cultural identity which had defined the period prior to becoming the empire (and not just empires, but generally countries and organizations) wane and dies. Anglo-American Empire will end too. Should be soon… the sooner the better.
Amen.
German and Russian should get together and then must crush the anglos.
There is no reason why those anglos should keep the stolen lands of continental sizes like Canada,Australia or even usa.
Send them back to thier cold windswept miserable island which in outline looks like a real worm.
The biggest misunderstanding that the general public has about the Armenian Genocide that it was religiously motivated as a Muslims massacring Christians Genocide.
No it was NOT a religious Genocide, Turks killed Armenian, Arameans, Assyrians and Greeks not because they weren’t Muslims but because simply they were not racially pure Turks.They used the Kurds to do the bloody job and Turks brainwashed the “mountain Kurds” that by killing Armenians you are doing a favor to Allah.
The REAL Muslims were not the Turks, but at that time were represented by the Sunni Arab Sharif of Mecca, Hussein bin Ali who immediately helped all Armenians who were sent on death marches to the desert of Syria, Armenians were literally picked up by Bedouin Sunni Arab tribes who were the first people who encountered us when we were dying, they took us, healed our wounds, quenched our thirst and gave us hope for a new start after having lived through no other than the worse episode of hellish hollywood script one can imagine, and during those times there was no smartphones and internet, so one can only imagine what was occuring, consider ISIS multiplied by 1000 and you have a picture….perhaps
Sunni Muslims should be the FIRST to recognize the Armenian Genocide because
that will clear again its honorable name after having been stained by ISIS filth, certainly a project of God knows which intelligence agencies destroying the moral authority of Sunni Islam by labeling it with crimes that are not close to its teachings in any way but are the random thoughts of some irrelevant tribe in the remote deserts somewhere, and investing billions of dollars to make this line of Islam go mainstream in Asia, Africa and Europe.
When Arab countries recognize the Armenian Genocide they will bring this historic fact into light, how Muslims saved the world’s first Christian Nation from perishing.
By doing so, Arab Muslims will regain their moral authority in the world.
It was because of frustration that many found hope in “modern” Turkey as a representation of the positive face of Islam. Such a hope is like giving the job of a fine surgeon to a brute butcher and expecting a positive outcome of an open heart surgery.
To my Turkish citizen friends, recognition and apology is all what we ask, to build a better future for Eurasia and the world. Remember we are the first Christian Nation, we cannot but forgive and follow the teachings of our Lord Christ.
Saker Spasibo, Hugs from Armenia, tsavet danem when the shit hits the fan we all dig into the land of Ararat and take Siberia once again :)) just like after the flood.
Putin, what can I say, VLADIMIR PUTIN, Sucking your balls is too little thing to do in return for what you have done to the Armenian Nation and in how many ways you helped us. Armenia exists today because of Russia and the Russian people. Long Live Russia, Long Live Tsar Vladimir Putin. Glory to Russia, Glory to Orthodoxy, Glory to Christ, Glory to Allah, Glory to Samantabadhra and to Krishna, Glory to Armenia, Glory to Mount Ararat, Aratta the land of the Gods. This is how it feels to survive a Genocide and to speak out 100 years later! Glory to all Free People in this World. May peace come, but if there is a bitter cup, then we are ready for bitter days, never afraid. God bless you Saker for this Great Blog, Long time follower first time commenter. Eat Raw Food for Good Health, read Arshavir Ter Hovannessian book: Raw Eating to achieve health, only like that we can be free.
Are you serious ?
As an Armenian I understand your feelings. I am thankful not only to Putin but also to the Russian people and even the Soviets (in spite of its darkest days) for protecting our Armenian homeland from the Turks. The Russian military is in Armenia today and I am happy that Armenia has joined the EEC. The US and EU can go to hades; for a thousand years the West have used us then always stabbed us in the back.
Dear Saker,
I am saddened that you promoted propaganda like “Ravished Armenia”. Just remember how Iraqi’s threw babies from their cribs and sent them back to Iraq. “Ravished Armenia” was a silent era film complete with over the top propaganda. God! How awful was the Hun?!!! Be logical in your comments!
Regards,
Stephen.
My father barely survived it. It was much worse than the movie.
For example, they cut off the breasts of my great grandmother. My other relatives suffered in ways even worse that will make you sick that I will not repeat here.
Found on u-tube of all places.
in HD, yet 197 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJc-h4wWAvg
THE HIDDEN PEARL Documentary History Of Arameans People
he Assyrian Genocide (also known as Sayfo or Seyfo, Syriac: ܩܛܠܐ ܕܥܡܐ ܣܘܪܝܝܐ or ܣܝܦܐ) refers to the mass slaughter of the Assyrian population of the Ottoman Empire during the 1890s and the First World War, in conjunction with the Armenian genocide and Greek genocide. The Assyrian civilian population of upper Mesopotamia (the Tur Abdin region, the Hakkâri, Van, and Siirt provinces of present-day southeastern Turkey, and the Urmia region of northwestern Iran) was forcibly relocated and massacred by the Muslim Ottoman (Turkish) army, together with other armed and allied Muslim peoples, including Kurds, Chechens and Circassians, between 1914 and 1920, with further attacks on unarmed fleeing civilians conducted by local Arab militias
What about the Turkish Stream ?
Peskov: Putin’s words in Yerevan won’t affect relations with Turkey
http://news.am/eng/news/263893.html
I guess that means the Russian move was calculated.
If Russia doesn’t adopt the Armenian Genocide cause, Western powers will use it as a pressure tool against Turkey. It is better for Russia, Turkey and Armenia to work together to solve this problem.
Many years ago I used to read Barry Chamish, an Israeli journalist. He believed that the “young Turks”, which were Jews pretending to be Turks, were responsible for the genocide of the Armenians. Has anyone heard this story? And if so, is there any truth in it? Being a Jew himself, I felt I had to give him some credit.
As for Robert Fisk, I always found him pretty trustworthy. I was following the devastation of Iraq each day, and he was one of the people I turned to for information and for photos. Mostly I went to blogs written by Iraqis, such as Riverbend… But he seemed to be an honest reporter, in that he was there (yes, at the Palestine Hotel and when it was hit by US weaponry).
There is a lot of truth to that!
Armenian historians totally reject that theory. It is being used by those that have an irrational hatred of Jews.
There is a lot that can be blamed on the Jews, but not the Armenian Genocide.
Official statement by Alexander Zakharchenko on the Centennial of the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire:
I address Armenia, the Armenian people, and Armenian citizens of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
The Armenian diaspora has long been an important and integral part of the multiethnic population of the Donbass, and for centuries Armenia and the Armenian people were one of the most loyal and fraternal allies of Russia and the whole family of the Slavic peoples. A centuries-old friendship, a common faith, and a common determination to preserve our traditions unite us. Together, shoulder-to-shoulder, we beat the common foe during the Great Patriotic War and rebuilt our national home. Today, Armenians in the DPR actively work to build our country; they bravely defend our motherland’s borders.
Today is a mournful date associated with one of the most tragic events in human history – the Armenian Genocide. One hundred years later, we, the people of the DPR, bow to the memory of all the victims of this tragedy.
Today, we, just like the fraternal Armenian people did a hundred years ago, face persecution on ethnic and religious grounds. We also face those who wish to destroy us physically, to obliterate our language, and to break our will. Therefore, we understand the pain and suffering of the Armenian people; we can see how their anguish and misfortune relates to ours.
We believe that there’s no place in the world for nationalism or for incitement to religious hatred… a new generation of Armenians should never experience the horror that Armenians all over the world call the Meds Yeghern (Մեծ Եղեռն/Great Crime). I want to wish fraternal Armenia and Armenians living in the DPR peace, wellbeing, and prosperity.
The head of the Donetsk People’s Republic,
Alexander Zakharchenko.
During WW2 the Ukrainians allied to the Nazis mass murdered the Armenians that lived in southern Ukraine. This has been documented by an Armenian priest in Poland.
Let’s recognize the killing of the Armenians and the Assyrians
but let’s be careful about just who exactly was killed?
and just which groups of people did the killing?
Because the ‘heroic’ kurds “kurds” participated fully and willingly.
Raping and pillaging in partnership with their ottoman friends
And the kurds, who did not appear to ever have had a nation, ever, are now trying to usurp Assyrian history
Tread carefully here, Saker, because the recognition coming at this time is pure politics and nothing more.
The Kurds openly admitted what they did in 1915.
We Armenians have accepted their apology. Today there is no ill will between us.
Dear The Saker,
Watched a very moving documentary on RT. It revelaed a little known fact that the Armenians were the first people to become Christians. They interviewed some people – still alive – who were children at the time. I personally remember walking around the old Armenian capital in EasternTurkey back in the 90’s and the place was full of ruined churches – empty, desolate and haunting.
Turkey just needs to accept its Ottaman history because they cannot move on without recognising what occured. The documentary finished with saying there may be many Armenians in Turkey today who changed their names, but because the Government hasn’t fully investigated – we will never know.
Rgds,
Veritas
A very documentary can be viewed here , quite gruesome.
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