by “Y”
Transcarpathia
ATO
The local police units are still training for ATO service and small groups of police officers still volunteer to fight in the ATO. Fifteen such officers have volunteered during the period covered by this report.
Soldiers from the 128th Transcarpathian unit are returning from the front to Transcarpathia. They arrive in irregularly sized batches; 10 on September 6, a further 30 on the 7th,, then 3 large buses (so possibly 100+ troops) on the 13th. This unit is reported as serving 50 days at the front line, based at Schasta 20 km north of Lugansk. This is the unit that left the front without permission for the Ukraine military command. A commanding officer stated that all the men had served honourably. The battalion commander, named as Vitaliy Komar, was recently released on bail after being arrested in Odessa. He faces a possible 10 year prison sentence. He claims that he is has been made a scapegoat for the poor quality of the upper levels of the Ukrainian military command.
Militia members from the Transcarpathian ‘Sich’ group complain about poor weapons, limited ammunition that has to be acquired at their own expense or through donations, and absurd orders from above resulting in the militia being left to its own fate.
Four prisoners held by the NAF came from Transcarpathia.Three were members of the 51st Brigade and one from the Donbass battalion, with call sign ‘Chrome’. These have been released. The bereaved families of 12 Transcarpathia military members have received a total of 7.3 million UAH in cash assistance (the UAH trades at about 14 to the US dollar).
In an attempt to reassure volunteers, the Transcarpathian regional commission has confirmed that reservists and conscripts defending the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine in the ATO will be recognized as combatants. The intent is to clearly make them eligible for treatment as PoWs if captured and perhaps more importantly, immunity from prosecution within Ukraine.
Finally, more refugees have arrived from the east and Crimea, bringing the total to 1485 (1039) from Donetsk and Lugansk regions, and 227 (222) from Crimea. The figures in brackets represent the totals residing within Transcarpathia at the end of August. There clearly has been a dramatic increase in the number of people fleeing from the fighting in the east. It is not clear whether these individuals are Transcarpathians who have returned or Ukrainians seeking to get as far away from the conflict as possible.
Economy
The economy is in dire straits. Local media report inflation reached 14.2% for August. Utility costs (telephone, water) are increasing whilst income remains stagnant. The limited amount of money available to organise the upcoming election is reported as a big issue for Transcarpathia.
In a wider context relating to the pending EU Agreement, a working group has been established to restore rail connections from Uzhgorod to Prague, Budapest and Romania. Another working group is look at increasing the number of border crossing points between Hungary and Transcarpathia, possibly reducing the spacing from ~35 km to about ~15 km. These changes would facilitate increased trade and tourist traffic.
Energy
Miroslav Lajcak, the Deputy Prime Minister of Slovakia spent two days in Transcarpathia discussing energy issues. Slovakia claims to be able to provide a reverse flow gas supply to Ukraine. However, Gazprom has reacted to this and other attempts at providing reverse supplies. It has reduced supply to Slovakia by 10%, it will reduce gas volumes supplied to Poland and Germany, and has increased the price of gas supplied to Hungary. This latter move should make gas transit from Hungary economically unprofitable. The difference in treatment by Russia of Hungary versus Poland, Slovakia and Germany probably reflects the different positions of the respective countries: Hungary a potential ally and trading partner at one end and Poland an implacable foe at the other. If this is the case, it is interesting that Germany falls on the side of Poland rather than Hungary.
In a further move, Lukoil has announced it is interested in buying the Transneft pipeline running through Transcarpathia. Transneft has lost $62.5 million over the last five years through theft of oil. The cost for acquiring Transneft is likely to be less than $150 million.
Mobilisation
The third phase of mobilization is very problematic country wide. The age limits for exemption are desperately high – 65 years for officers. Only 145 individuals were recruited from the Transcarpathian regions. People are simply ignoring the notices to report or fleeing the region. The authorities are trying to control this situation; the SBU is creating a database of every Ukrainian who has been captured in the east or who has gone missing. They are also monitoring internally displaced persons from the east and Crimea. The wives and mothers of conscripted soldiers are still continuing their protests, demanding that their men not be sent to the front. These protests are much smaller than earlier, booth in number and size of individual demonstrations.
The increased taxation supposedly to support the military in the east has generated 5 million UAH per month in Transcarpathia alone. This tax is based on a 1.5% levy on income and lottery winning, and excludes capital and property assets, so it affects the poorer levels of society in greater proportion, whilst the extremely wealth are relatively immune to its effects.
Politics
The main explicit political news relates to the forthcoming election. A number of local politicians are standing: Viktor Baloha District 69 around Mukachevo, Basil Petiovka District 72 around Tyachiv and Nicoletta Subs District 68 around Uzhgorod. Another politician, Istvan Gajdos, considers Ukraine to be at war making the holding of elections inappropriate. Consequently he is not standing for a major position.
Only Baloha appears prominently in news reports so far. He strongly supports the war in the east, and states that martial law should be declared if necessary. He also says this should be done for the benefit of the country, not to preserve the positions of people already in power. He has declared that money spent on political advertising would be better spent fighting the war. Consequently he has stated that he will donate all such money he receives to the military. More recently he has stated that the ‘peace plan’ is failing as the Ukrainian positions are being constantly shelled by the Russian-supported ‘terrorists’. Consequently there can be no deals with Putin. His view is that there are two options i) full take over the east and wipe out all opposition, or ii) leave it totally, stop financing it and transfer the problem to Russia by defining new borders.
The sudden presence of Viktor Medvedchuk, a Ukrainian oligarch with pro-Russian views, in Uzhgorod raised some alarm in the local pro-regime camp, fearing he may be attempting to destabilise the region of behalf of Putin.
Propaganda
The usual propaganda activities are still operational. Collections, concerts and other similar events are used to raise funds for the actions in the east. The amounts involved are dwarfed by the amounts raised by the tax mentioned earlier, so the acts serve to provide a ‘feel good’ factor and possibly supply specific items to unofficial militias with local members. Local NGOs have been formed supposedly to further support and aid the troops. One group ‘Movement to Support Transcarpathian Soldiers’ was formed by a small group of local artists, media people and journalists. Their major activity seems to have been a press conference. Another group “Native Mukachevo” aims to support fighters from Mukachevo. Details are lacking so far, but they have the air of being entities used to raise the profile of those behind them.
More insidious events reflect the underlying promotion of a pure Ukrainian nation. Firstly a short report in a local online new outlet reports that ‘contrary to stereotypes, some Roma soldiers will fight loyally for Ukraine’.
Secondly a local villager, Vladimir Golovchak, had the idea of creating the first children’s battalion ‘Falcon’. The membership includes children aged 2-10 years. The intent is to raise a patriotic spirit in these children. The associated YouTube video shows the children holding a Pravi Sektor flag central stage, with a Ukrainian flag off to one side.
Separatism
Despite an agreement between Poroshenko and the Hungarian Ethnic Alliance (KMKSZ), there will not be an autonomous Hungarian region in Transcarpathia. This precludes the formation of a Hungarian voting block. The Hungarian government supports the Transcarpathian Hungarian minority in their quest for autonomy. The Hungarian minority in the region have warned that separatism might become a real problem if things get worse in Ukraine.
The Ukrainian response has taken two forms. Firstly an NGO has been created to promote the idea that Hungarian life should move closer to the Ukrainian style. This will probably be as effective as a chocolate teapot.
Secondly, and more effectively, the Transcarpathian authorities are clamping down on all forms of activity that could be seen as supporting or proposing separatism. Local pro-Ukraine media report that once potential separatists have met investigators, the ‘promptly fall in love with Ukraine’. The investigators do face problems, as those interviewed frequently claim their social media pages have been hacked or vandalised. There are four reported criminal cases of Rusyn separatism, one prominent person is named as Ivan Petrovtsiy. A second case is only identified by the surname – Sidor. One local resident from Uzhgorod has been sentenced to a 3 year jail term, followed by 1 year probation. The offense cited was ‘calling for violent overthrow of constitutional order, formation of illegal paramilitaries in region’. This obviously could be applied to anyone proposing or taking part in another Maidan against the current regime.
The Transcarpathian local government has not disbanded the local Berkut, contrary to the Ukrainian law passed on 25 February. Members of the Pravi Sektor object to this, probably because it weakens their strategy of using violence to silence opposition.
It is clear that the Ukrainian regime fears more attempts at separatism, and possibly any dissenting voices whatsoever. For example, I have seen images of demonstrations in Mariupol before and after the start of the ATO. From these, it seems plausible that such dissent is suppressed rather having faded away. The ‘before’ image I have in mind shows a public square fully occupied with anti-regime protestors. The ‘after’ image shows the same square with a much smaller number of pro-regime supporters, taking up about 1/4 to 1/3 of the square. There are two other distinguishing factors; the dominance of Ukrainian symbols (flags flown or being worn) and a large number of buses parked alongside the square. No such buses were present in the first protest. One possible explanation is that someone (the local oligarch?) has gone to the expense of providing uniform PR material and bussing people in from outside the locality.
Transnistria
ATO
On September 10, the Transnistrian Prime Minister Evgeny Shevchuk signed a law requiring all organisations that have bunkers (air raid shelters ?) and other civil security facilities to prepare them for use. It is not clear whether this is in anticipation of a possible attack from Ukraine, Moldova or both. The Ukrainian Ambassador to Moldova has denied Kiev plans to attack Transnistria.
Economy
The Transnistrian economy is severely hampered by the blockade from Moldova and Ukraine. Most of the exports were destined for Russia or Europe, using Odessa as an exit port. This is now closed as a result of the actions by Ukraine. The Gagauzian region of Moldova also has substantial trade Russia and Turkey. It is alarmed by talk of Moldova rejoining ROmania. The Moldovan economy is also very dependent on Russia. It is claimed that ~30% of its GDP arises from money returned by Moldovan migrants to Russia. Russia is currently tightening up its position regarding migrants. Moldova also exports wine and apples to Russia. The viability of this trade will ma be severely affected when Moldova signs the Association Agreement with the UE.
Politics
Political groups in Transnistria has repeated their support of the DNR in their quest for liberation from fascism. In a 2006 referendum, more than 93% of Transnistrians wanted to join the Russian federation. The Russian response has been that this is difficult because there is no shared border.
The main political issue is the undefined legal status of Transnistria. The blockade by Moldova and Ukraine severely hampers the Transnistrian economy. Transnistria has deferred the forthcoming ‘5+2’ talks until these issues are dealt with or included within the scope of the negotiations. The Transnistrian Head of Foreign Affairs met with the US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Rubin and the US Ambassador to Moldova W H Moser. The state US position is it wants to the help OSCE mission to Moldova and the ‘5+2’ group to overcome problems and achieve concrete results. Transnistria’s position is the negotiation were stopped by Moldova in 2006, only to be restarted in 2011 after much effort especially by Russia to get the talks restarted. Transnistria’s suspension of the talks is in response to the economic blockade imposed by Moldova. This has been made worse because Chisinau and Kiev now only allow Transnistrian exports to pass if they have been documented by Moldova. This imposes additional time and monetary costs on the affected goods. Transnistria’s position is that it simply wants to run its foreign trade interdependently of Moldova. More recently, Moldovan customs officers at Tiraspol airport have started imposing overly intrusive examinations of the luggage of Transnistrian politicians.
The US has requested that Russia withdraw its peacekeeping troops from Transnistria. The basis for their demand is that the presence does not comply with the Combat Forces in Europe (CFE) agreement. Lavrov has rejected this blatant attempt to weaken Transnistria by stating that the West has not signed the document, so it has no meaning in this case. The US position is made more obvious by their demand that the OSCE mission needs unrestricted access to Transnistrian region because of rising tensions on Ukraine border. The conveniently skip over the fact that the tensions are the result of Ukraine’s actions, not those of Transnistria.
Propaganda
One major strand of propaganda is that Russian troops in Transnistria will be used to attack Odessa as the basis for a unified Novorossian coastal zone. This ignores the reality that the peacekeeping force in Transnistria is a roughly equal mix of Transnistrian, Moldovan and Russian troops. If the Russian troops leave Transnistria, then pro-US forces will have little difficulty in overwhelming the Transnistrian forces.
The most amusing propaganda tale relates to the appearance of ‘so-called green men’ in Moldova, as reported by Moldovan counter-intelligence. These ‘little green men’ have managed somehow or other to mysteriously appear on Moldovan territory. They attempt to recruit young people as saboteurs, who are taught methods of disinformation, how to act in emergency situations, and how to handle small arms. These green men are, of course, not visible to the normal human eye, but are ‘irrefutable evidence’ that Transnistria is preparing for war and Russia is recruiting saboteurs.
The increased taxation supposedly to support the military in the east has generated 5 million UAH per month in Transcarpathia alone. This tax is based on a 1.5% levy on income and lottery winning, and excludes capital and property assets, so it affects the poorer levels of society in greater proportion, whilst the extremely wealth are relatively immune to its effects.
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Love these sitreps
Of course! How many oligarchs and Junta officials have sent their sons to the front. I bet the number is zero
Imagine you are a Uki Hun who is getting squeezed by inflation a war tax and worry that your son will be buried in a shallow grave in one of the cauldrons led by e Uki Keystone cops military
One more comment, how much more patience will Putin have for this reverse gas flow theft. Hard to thief gas if the spigot is turned off
When will Putin understand that war has begun against Russia by the west
The Huns, Slovaks and Czechs bloviate but still try to redirect gas to the Uki deadbeats and fall in line over sanctions
How much more can Russia afford to turn the other cheek, this measured response just encourages the west that Russia is weak and fearful of sanctions
As effective as a chocolate teapot. How apropos!
Saker:
I have worked hard in the campaign to re-elect Dilma Rousseff as President of Brazil.
The media has anglozionist power, we are head to head talking and explaining to unsuspecting voters – yes, every vote directly on your Brazilian President, we call democracy and electronic voting with paper is logging each vote.
Explain, educate each voter that our future as a nation is tied to the BRICS and not to bankrupt anglozinists is not easy, believe me.
After all, I have faith that we will win.
In two months I’ll be here or crying, jumping up and down.
Bration there.
Alexandre.
6 minute video of interview in field with a female fighter”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YPb28j2pfE&feature=youtu.be
Poroshenko’s style ceasefire, Donetsk, 14/9/2014 (video has 18+ content): http://youtu.be/VzhS0E6pGtM
What for these people were killed? What this civilians did to Kiev/West so they deserve to be shelled and killed, on daily basis, in their native city? Why Western media and Western leaders keep silence about this crimes of Kiev regime?
Annunnaki: VP knows and understands; the man has had a lot on his plate for a long time. His big picture is success of BRICS, stop CIA in Brazil etc., and keep humiliating the rabid dolts. Poroshenko and those clowns will end up under the bus because the US et al’s tactics are so crude. Meanwhile growing awareness, if you can attribute that to American flag-fetishists, that the whole DC stench is getting worse.
to the cause, dth
Craig Paul Roberts references both Colonel Strelkov and The Saker in his latest analysis of the Ukraine civil war.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/09/14/washingtons-war-russia-paul-craig-roberts-2/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
#Putin takes control of national Military-Industrial Commission
The Russian President has taken personal control of the body that assures cooperation between the military and the defense industry, days after ordering a major reform of the sector.
Vladimir Putin also signed a decree on Wednesday giving presidential status to the Military Industrial Commission. The Deputy PM in charge of the weapons industry, Dmitry #Rogozin, was appointed deputy chairman of the commission.
Also on Wednesday Putin spoke with a group of top defense industry officials and told them that while Russia did not intend to artificially halt cooperation with foreign partners, the priorities lay in the ability to independently produce all critically important equipment, materials and devices. “We must do everything to ensure that national security is absolutely guaranteed,” the President said.
Earlier this week Putin ordered the winding up of the Rosoboronzakaz and Rosoboronpostavka agencies which are responsible for placing and executing weapons orders for the military. Their functions will be transferred to the Defense Ministry, Finance Ministry and Audit Chamber.
Russia is currently running a major program to rearm the military. It started in 2008 and will continue till 2020. By then 70 percent of all weapons in the military must be replaced by newer models. The state is allocating significant sums for the purpose – in 2014 the total defense budget amounted to 2.3 trillion rubles ($60 billion), compared to just 600 billion rubles ($15 billion) in 2003.
The crisis in #Ukraine has shown the need for even more reforms in the Russian defense sector. Facing the turmoil and hostility of the present Kiev regime, Russian authorities decided to cut ties with Ukrainian weapon makers and go for domestic production. President Putin discussed the plan with Deputy PM Rogozin in late July and said that the inevitable hardships and complications would eventually benefit the nation – new factories will appear in previously underdeveloped places, and old enterprises will be replaced with modern ones.
Saker,
when are the elections in Brazil? has anyone thought yet that the plane incident in Brazil was a CIA killing? I read that Porky and Merkel are ‘worrying” because the ceasefire does not seem to hold. Now that the Ukie have the new arms, they want to start again. VP must knows it and I hope militia is ready. We are going to have 2 more years of ceaziness and killing. May God be with us!
“Y”
Thanks, invaluable reference, as was your previous article.
вот так
I keep hearing Putin will play the gas card but isn’t he on record more than once saying he intended to honor existing contracts?
The slowdowns are to punish reverse flows to the deadbeats in Kiev
In the Spring expect the Europoodles to sanction Russian gas
Is there any reason that there is conscription in Ukraine for men, but not women?
#Ukraine #sexist
Brazilian Presidential Election (First Round) is October 5 (3 weeks).
Second Round is 3 weeks later (October 26).
There will definitely be a 2nd Round. If Putin wants Rousseff to stand a chance of being re-elected he can’t overtly intervene in Ukraine prior to October 26. (Which also happens to be the Ukrainian elections – same day).
Week after is the US Mid-Terms.
Week after that is G20 Meeting of all the Important Heads of State (November 12-13).
Don’t expect any major Russian moves prior to Mid-November. If diplomacy seems hopeless at that point – expect the gas to be turned off in late November. Fully turned off.
Julian said…15 September, 2014 03:31
“Is there any reason that there is conscription in Ukraine for men, but not women?
#Ukraine #sexist”
Mossad, CIA, FBI, MI5&6 all are sexist. All of these orgs are gay dominated. Since the Ukranine is currently controlled by these fecal connoisseurs, can you expect they would be any different?
Look at the face of the quisling Lyashko. This is the real face of the ZPC/NWO.
Anonymous Julian said…15 September, 2014 03:46
You make predictions, but don’t explain the why, which makes your “predictions” completely worthless.
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The US has requested that Russia withdraw its peacekeeping troops from Transnistria.
This from a country that still occupy any country it has invaded by force or invitation and will never leave willingly like Cuba let alone germany or japan. Why is the US still on Diego Garcia? Its not even British! Of course the pastime of shooting dogs of residents have now moved to mainstream US. Just goes to show that when you allow part of the population to get away with immoral things, slowly they come back to the mainstream of your own society.
Alien Tech, you forget that the ‘rules’ don’t apply to the ‘Chosen People’ of the Empire of Wonderfulness. Attempts to point out the sheer insanity of the hypocrisy involved in every nano-second of US Imperial rule bring either dumb incomprehension or barely repressed (or not) rage.
Julian, Brazil is first cab off the rank for destroying the BRICS. The Empire’s best bet is a close win for either candidate, followed by more ‘Colour Revolution’ shenanigans, then a military coup, the Yankee nostalgists’ preference when dealing with the ‘wet-backs’. Brazil was always going to be a weak link in BRICS, and the Brazilian Right would love to return to power and serve their Masters in Mordor on the Potomac again.
This tax is based on a 1.5% levy on income and lottery winning, and excludes capital and property assets, so it affects the poorer levels of society in greater proportion, whilst the extremely wealth are relatively immune to its effects.
Nice to see that the Ukies have now adopted the ‘western model’. War, inflation and taxes for the 99%; profits and tax cuts for the oligarchs! Congratulations…
With regard to gas – Gazprom has been clear, they are not obligated to supply more than the contracted amount.
What seems to have been happening was that some customers were stealing on behalf of Ukraine, that is they were trying to take extra gas to then pass on to Ukraine – in practice the same thing as Ukraine taking the gas in the first place.
What Gazprom did was to cut off supply once contracted amounts of gas had been delivered. The ‘underdelivered’ gas was that planned by the customers to be passed over to Ukraine. Seem that this game is over almost before it began. If customers wish to supply gas to Ukraine they will need to do so from their own reserves and from their own contracted purchases. That seems fair enough to me.
Poor people always end up losing
Paul Craig Roberts is likely reading these posts :-)
I believe he is and has been for a long time one of few sincere and balanced/truthfull US commentators. I have been reading his pieces since the mid 2000s I believe, if not slightly earlier.
PCR and Jim Willie are my favorite commenters. I also used to love listening to Gerald Celente but the poor guy has become too much of a rage-machine. I completely understand his anger and disgust but its important to keep that in check when trying to deliver such an important message as he (usualy) has.
Saker’s site has become a hotspot for people who want to know whats going on in the West/East political divide and with the Ukraine situation.
Definitely my favorite news-site these days.
Norwegian Bob
PS: Sorry about the rant and cursing in my post on the earlier post regarding Ukrainian fascist brutality where they had chopped off the heads of some guys. That just pushed me over the brink a bit.
Norwegian Bob:
I read Paul Craig Roberts religiously and he has invoked the Saker in at least one of his submissions. I think he even submitted a comment on a thread here.
But the real question we want to ask: Is Obama and/or Putin reading the Saker.
If not they better get on board!
Mindfriedo’s sitreps on Iraq/ISIS is much better thn the dreck he reads from all those overeducated entitled fools from Harvard and Georgetown
And my advice was to echo what someone said about emigrating to wordpress. Better immunize yourself against DDoS attacks with software like Cloudflare.
As The Saker continues to rise in importance as a counter to the corporate media spin for TWO wars this time (Syraq and Russia), enemies will want to play agent provacateur.
Don’t understimate the petty jealousies of other bloggers who are covering the same waterfront.
We can all enjoy ourselves until Emperor Obomber regulates the Internet in 2015 with his Republican congress.
Norwegian Bob:
I read Paul Craig Roberts religiously and he has invoked the Saker in at least one of his submissions. I think he even submitted a comment on a thread here.
But the real question we want to ask: Is Obama and/or Putin reading the Saker.
If not they better get on board!
Mindfriedo’s sitreps on Iraq/ISIS is much better thn the dreck he reads from all those overeducated entitled fools from Harvard and Georgetown
And my advice was to echo what someone said about emigrating to wordpress. Better immunize yourself against DDoS attacks with software.
As The Saker continues to rise in importance as a counter to the corporate media spin for TWO wars this time (Syraq and Russia), enemies will want to play agent provacateur.
Don’t understimate the petty jealousies of other bloggers who are covering the same waterfront. I’ve seen an uptick in sniping in more than one blog recently (Moa, that ridiculous piece on Slavyangrad)
We can all enjoy ourselves until Emperor Obomber regulates the Internet in 2015 with his Republican congress.
Ukraine has no future, this outcome is already clear.
It´s perfectly clear, easy to see. An economic disaster of huge scope is underway, who will pay the bills of UKR? Who will pay for heating? Where will the old school industry export their products?
The EU wont support, neither Russia. The IWF? Not sure with such a state of economy. USA? Not really, they are fine with deterring Russia, but have no longterm strategy or solutions.
The oligarchs? None of them is patriotic enough to sacrifice only parts of their fortune.
What happens when the winter comes?
Hard to estimate, but we can be sure the country will be once again a different one in spring 2015, probably not even a country anymore.
Hello Saker,
I wish to address a serious concern that I see with your blog. The more you let the sycophants and historical reactionaries get their opinions out, the more I am afraid they push away people who have real thoughts and healthy alternative views. I have been following your site since this Spring and several times I have had the same sense of hopelessness, seeing the adulation that you enjoy from the yes-men surrounding you: “Your insight is so great . . . , this is your best . . . ” Your site is valuable indeed, but this type of adulation – even for the most pedestrian comment – is how a personality cult starts!
However, when it comes to thoughtful voices who have a good grasp of facts and concerns, and who ask intelligent questions, they are mostly ignored or are admonished for not toeing the line. Just in last few days, there were interesting posts by Westcoast, by WizOz, by Alien Tech, Dacian, etc., just to list a few, – not so many other “anonymous” – none of which were followed up; at most, some were “put in place” by other posters who did not bother to check any facts; many times just by name calling.
Well, if Russia is to rally support from the rest of the world, it’s necessary to get beyond a small coterie of monarchists and sycophants, and encourage fact-based opinions and thoughtful questions. And, if they are trolls, respond to their misleading points with cogent arguments and facts. It is You who have the platform from which to address them, and your response will always have more impact than their trolling, which is easy to spot, anyway.
How is it that when Yatseniuk is caught using the expression “subhuman,” just to give one example, your cohorts raise hell, pointing to his Nazi ideology – but when so many on your blog dehumanize the Ukrainians calling them by all sorts of names, including “subhuman,” calling their would-by president Porky, etc., and calling the whole nation Ukies, that doesn’t worry you or your faithful?
By encouraging the “yes” men, you, and especially the Russia which you represent, lose credibility. In fact, even more, it shows that the alternative that you/Russia represent to the world would be run by intransigent thought commissars just like in some not so distant past – just that now we would have the white commissars. Truthfully, the partisan wink-wink about an invasion that is wink-wink not quite an invasion, is just as off-putting. On the other hand, the healthy, honest and humane values displayed, for instance, by Russians letting prisoners go with a drink of water and a little slap on the wrist left the whole world in awe.
A suggestion from a friend
Annunaki;
Completely agree. The Iraq/Syria sitreps and the Boko-Haram sitreps are also invaluable.
Lets also not forget the islands in the South-China sea and the dispute between Japan and China. The US is aggressively stirring the pot all over the world trying to create chaos and unrest in order to create an industrial situation similar to post-WW1 and post-WW2 where the US made huge amounts of money on other peoples suffering. It seems to me they are running with an extreme interpretation of Paul Krugmans “broken window” fallacy.
We live in dangerous times and when I try to talk to friends about what is happening I’m often scorned as a “conspiracy freak”. Yet I prefer to be called that than to after the fact have been a stooge backing a major war. It is sad to see how much thought controll western media actually has over ordinary people. Everyone is not as dilligent as those of us who read Saker, MoA and Zero Hedge.
Just a digression, but I remember vividly a discussion back in august 2005 at work. I had been reading a lot of Paul Craig Roberts work and also Jim Willie, and I started trying to get a discussion about US economy and the pitfall that seemed to open up for them in terms of loss of industry, increasing debt etc. And they all just laughed at me. I reminded them about that conversation after the subprime bubble exploded and Lehman Brothers went down.
Norwegian Bob
I think that the Donbas region needs to have its own network of gas pipelines independent of the rest of Ukraine, such that gas can be imported from Russia at much more favorable terms – even heavily subsidised – than for the rest of Ukraine. This will give the region an economic advantage for its industries there, as well as helping the inhabitants and its economy to recover faster. The Donbas should also go organic, and avoid growing any GMOs.
Anonymous 15:30 … You are correct. I am sorry to have been part of the chorus. I suppose I feel helpless and that nothing I do matters so the least I can do is name calling and show disrespect. Although Ukies would be different than Ukrainians and I am unaware its an epitaph. Its a name to refer to Ukrainians who consider themselves heroes I would think from the Ukrainian of 400 years ago unlike the others who were added to Ukrainian since that time.
Although you also got to admit, many of our friends also call us names. I am sure Poroshenko, Turchinov, Akhmetov, Taruta are a mouthful. They would all have been called something else in high school. Even Nuland calls her bff our man yats. Although I did notice that Putin does refer to Poroshenko as president Poroshenko.. But this is nothing like being degenerative. When acting like an inhuman fascist, calling them nazi’s are only calling the nature of the beast. If we start calling them fascists fucking assholes then we have gone to their levels even though that refers to their actions far better. But I should watch what I write, although I dont look at religion, money, status or race, I do consider actions and some times actions of some are too much to bear and I have stopped watching videos and pictures of events. I noticed even hardened reporters are now saying this.
Re: A suggestion from a friend
15 SEPTEMBER, 2014 15:30
Just a couple of thoughts and not speaking for Saker in any way.
You assUme that many are merely yes-men. Ut fail to realize that the comments posted by those referenced in you comment are read and considered by many. What you fail to consider is that maybe some may not necessarily agree with comments by others, the disagreement in not significant enough to merit a reply and/or counter comment since these insignificant disagreements usually turn into flame wars that only serve the interests of the “empire” and their trolls.
In addition, this is not a message forum, it is a blogsite and sadly blogger is not user friendly nor is it author friendly. That makes it rather difficult for any “discussion” to take place since it relies upon users to continuously monitor threads that end up down the memory hole, so to speak, as new topics and posts become available.
Another thing you may consider is that Saker does not have to justify allowing others to use short form words that are used across the interwebz. Keep in mind that there are a lot of folks that access this site via mobile devices which make long form words problematic.
Just using a couple of terms you highlighted, count the characters below:
Porishenko
Chocolate King
Oligarch
Porky
Ukrainian
Ukie
Government of Ukraine
Junta
Ultra-Nationalist
Racist
Nazi
Yatseniuk
Homicidal maniac
Greedy pig
Globalist bankster
Yats
You can see above that there are a lot more “characters” required to fully describe such characters. Not only that but ponder the thought that maybe “we” don’t agree or have to agree with each other, but may have hashed it out already and/or decided to agree to disagree in previous threads. We may actually not even like each other if we met face to face, lol.
Anyway, we are not “cheerleaders” and this is not some kind of sporting event with referees or thought police, so loosen up a bit, take a chill pill, cool out, don’t get your panties in a bunch, etc. This is the Vineyard of the Saker, note the Saker part, and feel free to type away long form if you so choose but keep on mind that there is a “character” limit when posting comments…
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I think Obama and the Pentagon are very much aware that the pro Russians are using the peace period to continue doing the encirclements of gungho nationalists that were going on before Russia could not resist the Ilovoisk opportunity. Debalcevo is surrounded as are several other troop concentrations in that area. The airport seems to have been allowed to be reinforced by right sector that are now trapped. Poroshenko is not screaming about this which means he isin on it. The nationalists rely so much on their own version of reality that they are not acknowledging the Russian “agitprop” that these new kettles exist. Putin knows that the nationalists will not acknowledge encirclements or defeats at the hands of rebels. That is why, as slow as rebel-only fighting goes, this pattern will continue until a breaking point is reached. During the “peace” the rebels seem to have been busy with cauldrons. It served their interest that general big attacks stopped.
Thank you for providing these reports on Transcarpathia and Transnitria. It is very difficult to find information on these areas through other forms of media.
Regarding Moldova, are there any political reports that can be provided regarding the upcoming elections in November and how that may affect the EU agreement and/or military maneuvers with NATO?
Also, are there any reports of protests and dissent within other provinces of Moldova beyond Gagauzia, such as Soroca?
Paul Craig Washington Roberts is paid to present some truthful facts, most facts Americans who are not witless already know however.
What he fails to address is the fact that Washington is not in charge of Washington and it is not Washington who is calling the shots. Some articles he mentions washington this or washington that up to 20 times.
He doesn’t seem to know this.
http://www.in5d.com/40-outrageous-facts-most-people-dont-know.html
In another recent article he indicated he did not know who was training American police to be so violent. Well golly gee a lot of high school kids now know Israeli trainers are in many American police departments especially in large cities.
The Jesuits also have a lot of first cousins in the Knesset and Paul doesn’t seem to know this. In fact he goes out of his way to never mention either one of these outfits.
The vatican is the richest organization on earth, they rule over the city of London in the masonic structure and Rothschild is their banker as well as London’s banker and prints American money through the federal reserve which they own. US alphabet agencies are paid by this organization. Paul doesn’t seem to know this. And it seems almost like some type software program on the net that seems to recommend him from forum to forum.
Paul Craig is a politician. He served under Reagan when Reagan was financing Guatemalan Israeli general Rios Monte who murdered 100,000 Mayan indians. Paul Craig Roberts needs to be in prison not pimped on internet forums.
By a Moldavian:
Maybe it will be fair to mention a few facts which are omitted. Russia acted as an empire during history and did take Moldova by force in 1812 (in fact half of what really was the Principality of Moldavia for centuries). That region is also known as Bassarabia (Bessarabia).
The Russian Empire started a policy of cultural assimilation and colonization (mostly in the south that was later given to Ukraine).
After the first world war, this land reunited with Romania since they are one and the same nation. Also they wanted to escape the bolshevik terror that was sweeping all across Russia.
Stalin decided to create a Soviet Republic of Moldova in a piece of land east of Dniester river that had a population of more than 60% moldavians. It was about 2-3 times bigger than what later became Transnistria of today.
In june 1940, Stalin with approval from Hitler (as 2 good friend dictators) decided to take back by force Bessarabia, plus some other territories from northern Romania. A week was allowed for the ones who wanted to run away. But in reality it was a week of terrors committed especially by Jews who were big communist supporters and fanatics hoping for their judaic/bolshevik project to take over the world. Romania was strongly against the communism at that time so it had no choice but to fight for its lands initially.
After the war was finished, Stalin decided to cut off completely Moldova from the Black Sea and gave the south region called Budjeak to Ukraina who incorporated it in the Odessa oblast. As a small compensation, a small land, east of Dniester, of what before that Soviet Republic of Moldova was given to the new bigger Republic of Moldova.
He also executed or deported in Siberia a big percent of the moldavian population as enemies of the communism (sounds familiar with the fate of other nations from that empire ?). The replacements were russians and ukrainians.
During the URSS times, big part of the industrial and energetic investments were directed towards Transnistrian region only, in purpose. How fair was that, you to decide once you will realize how nice was after the break-up of Soviet Union to create a small country that can ownership of all that. In reality, in 1991-1992, it was mainly about who takes control of all the weapons stored there for contraband purposes. What would you say if suddenly the part of Russia that holds the natural gas and the industry to extract will decide to become independent and ask money from the rest of the country for the gas deliveries (after all the initial industrial investment was done by the country as whole ?).
Today, Transnistria has 550000 peopple. 33% of population is of moldavian ethnicity, 30% ukrainian and 28% russian. However, 80% of the population holds moldavian passports because of the extra benefits and flexibility they get from that.
How can Novorussia expand all the way to Odessa when realistically speaking, the russian population is in minority there ???
Don’t be naive, Transnistria is all about contraband and smuggling (plenty of weapons), lack of laws and prostitution.
Some of you maybe have heard, but even the war in Novorussia had a strong financial and smuggling aspect to it. Apparently, a lot of the weapons and munition sent from Russia as help was in fact resold by some smart asses involved in the conflict.
I think that if Yahukovich was not such a Mafioso Oligarch himself, we would have not been so surprised by the hate of ukrainians against russians, Especially since, as you can see from this small example above, russians always favored ukrainians and gave them land-gifts throughout the history.
Please, don’t start hating any non-russian nation from around there and believe that only russians are absolute truth-holders.
Putin and Russia might indeed be now on the right side of history, but it’s not a reason to misrepresent, ignore or hide the past.
Anonymous said…
Julian said…15 September, 2014 03:31
Anonymous Julian said…15 September, 2014 03:46
You make predictions, but don’t explain the why, which makes your “predictions” completely worthless.
Well my prediction is based on looking at the US economy for one thing, and the way I perceive the Russians to think – let as much as possible the West hang themselves.
At some point the Russians have to get serious and strike back, or else the whole jig is up.
Clearly the US/UK are rushing to war in Syria at the moment. My mid-November prediction might be brought forward if the US/UK start bombing Assad in early October!
The Russians/ Iranians/ Chinese must surely realise – if they let Assad go without a fight, they lose an ally for no good reason. And Iran is next.
If Iran has any sense (and Russia for that matter), Iran will use any attack on Assad as a pretext to close down the Persian Gulf. Failure to do this is basically a surrender. Their targets must be No. 1 Qatar. And following that UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain & Saudi Arabia.
If Iran sits back and tries to play both sides – they merely elevate themselves up the target list to No. 1. Without Assad as a proxy to cause trouble, Iran becomes much much easier to take out.
If Iran & Russia don’t realise this they are either in on it (Russia) or naive and stupid (both of them).
Who knows. But I’m sure everything will be clear by mid November.
There are a lot of things going on between now and mid-November that impact everything.
The end of POMO is perhaps the most pressing as it appears likely the US economy will crater when POMO finishes in October. Hence the rush to war now in Syria and the play to blame Russia for Western economic collapse.
Will Russia play this patsy? They might be forced to if Assad can’t hold out for a month or two.
@Basarabia/Bessarabia,
The problem is much more complicated than it appears, due to a constant confusion between Moldova and Bassarabia.
Basarabia is the same as the region known as Budjak, the plain between the lower courses of the rivers Prut and Dniester and along the Danube up to its mouth. In the XV century it belonged to the Voivodate of Ungro-Vlahia (the regions Oltenia and Muntenia of present Romania) and named after the reigning dynasty: Basarabi.
The region was annexed for a short time by the Principality of Moldova (which from 1359 till 1812 extended from the Eastern Carpathian Mountains to the river Dniester). It was lost to the Ottomans in 1485 who included it in the Pashalyk of Silistra. In 1812 at the conclusion of the Russo-Turkish war of 1806-182 (Peace of Bucharest) Russia annexed the Budjak (Basarabia) AND the region between the rivers Pruth and Dniester which belonged to Moldova. This part was included in a new administrative region of the Russian Empire which was (inappropriately) called Bessarabia.
After the Crimean War the Allies imposed the cessation of Bessarabia to Moldova, but without the northern part. In 1859 the Principalities of Moldova and Valachia united forming first the United Principalities of Moldo-Valachia, which became the Kingdom of Romania after the Russo-Turkish war of 1877-78, when Romania declared its independence from the Ottoman Empire. The Congress of Berlin imposed the cessation of Bessarabia (Budjak) back to Russia. At no time the status of the occupied Moldova (proper) was discussed officially. There were nevertheless voices in Russia (the so called panslavists, of all!) who advocated the return of this part to the new state of Romania. It never came to fruition, mainly because Romania was attracted into an alliance with the Central Powers (Austro-Hungary and Germany) and constantly worked out into an anti-Russian stance.
Bessarabia declared its independence in 1918 and shortly after adhered to Romania. Stalin re-occupied it in 1940 and Romanians again between 1941-1944. After the War it became the Soviet Socialist Republic of Moldova, enlarged with what is called today Transnistria (which did never belonged organically to Moldova). After the collapse of USSR, Moldova regained its independence. At times it sought reunification with Romania. Different proposals circulated, among them reunification with Romania but renouncing Transnistria.Moldova does not want to give up Transnistria, Romania is not completely happy to reintegrate it, because it would have to face a new problem: autonomy for Gagauzia.
Anonymous said…16 September, 2014 00:27
“Don’t be naive, Transnistria is all about contraband and smuggling (plenty of weapons), lack of laws and prostitution.
Some of you maybe have heard, but even the war in Novorussia had a strong financial and smuggling aspect to it. Apparently, a lot of the weapons and munition sent from Russia as help was in fact resold by some smart asses involved in the conflict.”
This comment reminds me of the long winded span that is posted after most articles here which consists of several paragraphs which about 2/3 to 3/4 the way though the comment appears a line about Russia (or usually Putin) betraying Novorossia. That line being the main purpose of the spam.
“By a Moldavian:”
With a Tel Aviv or Langley address…
:D
Julian said…16 September, 2014 00:51
Instead of substantiating your previous unsubstantiated prediction, as you appear to claim to be doing at the beginning of that comment, you instead make more unsubstantiated predictions about something else.
вот так
By a Moldavian:
For the one who thinks I’m in Telaviv:
I did read the story about re-sold weapons sent from Russia to Donetsk and Lugansk from a russian journalist. If you challenge me I might even go and search the address in my web navigator. Maybe it’s fake, maybe not.
Anyway, the message I wanted to send is to be careful and not fall in traps that want to pit nations against each other.
Moldavians speak a language that has nothing to do with Russian language and this should be enough proofto not claim that land again as part of (Novo)Russia. The Moldavian language is 95% Romanian.
That small piece of land (Moldova) was exploited until bleeding for decades !!!
All the agricultural products filling soviet shops for decades. Why do you think there was no industry there ? Because the Soviet Union never gave a fuck about that place, that’s why. They treated it as an agricultural colony to be exploited without mercy. Not that EU would behave different once they get their hands on it. That place was stuck between two cynical empires that’s all.
Take your Transnistria, but leave Moldova and moldavians alone. We suffered enough.
During the war in Transnistria from 1992, guess who was figting ??? Ukraininas + Russians against Moldavians. For what ? Well, mostly for controlling the huge deposits of weapons that were equivalent to a gold mine in the word of smuggling.
So, from a Moldavian and Romanian point of view, we are equally afraid of either Russians or Ukrainians.
At some point Moldova was supposed to become the European homeland of the Jews. Moldavians would have ended up having the same fate as Palestinians (bombed with white phosphorus … ).
вот так,
For disclosure: I am an American with some background in Central Europe.
Your comment is a typical cynical sycophant attack on an honest contributor. You present no facts, point out to no specific error, but God forbid to have someone bring to American readers realities of history – then Russian jingoism shows up. It is important that readers can rely on this site for knowledge, information and facts, not emotion and bile.
Romania is one country that is most hurt by Russian imperial ambitions, being the only country in Europe where its ethnic population live in two separate states. Not only that, but its eastern province of Moldova has been split into 3 territories, of which only one remains part of Romania. As pointed out by “Moldovan” (and not “Moldovian” – a Russian-made up name to distinguish “their part” from Moldova), the four Moldovan provinces of Cetatea Alba, Chilia, Ismail and Cahul (see this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabia#mediaviewer/File:GUVERNAMANTUL_BASARABIEI.png) were fully ethnically cleansed, and replaced with Russians, just like the Tatars of Crimea. To this day, the beautiful fortified city of Cetatea Alba, founded late 15th c. (now called Belgorod) stands witness to Stefan cel Mare: see http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetatea_Alb%C4%83.
On the other hand, the Hungarians, hiding behind the misfortunes of Romanians, claim a great friendship for the Russian people. That is what explains Orban’s opportunism vis-à-vis Russia.
Read a bit of history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabia before producing ignorant hate speech.
I will repeat what I said on this list: If Russians and their friends continue to play the game of wink-wink, lying here and lying there, when the facts on the ground are that Russia is historically an empire involved in land grabbing and colonization of other nations – it will not succeed in rallying support for its anti AngloZionism. As bloody as it was, the concept of the Soviet, not Russian, nation, had the same positive side to it as being an American. One cannot become German or French by immigrating to Germany or France, but anyone can become an American. And so it was in the Soviet Union. Anyone could be a Soviet citizen.
I have difficulty to see how the Russians will overcome their relentless nationalist, even genocidal instincts.
I also urge people on this list to be more vocal in presenting the historical facts against the onslaught of Russian chauvinism. It would also help the Russians face the reality they’re up against and not live in their own la-la land.