by Anonymous
How To Identify Trolls And Forum Spies
(Cryptome) Cointelpro Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum. There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of an ‘uncontrolled forum.’
Technique #1 – ‘Forum Sliding’
If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum – it can be quickly removed from public view by ‘forum sliding.’ In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to ‘age.’ Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a ‘forum slide.’ The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a ‘forum slide’ and ‘flush’ the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then ‘replying’ to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting ‘slides’ down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.
Technique #2 – ‘Consensus Cracking’
A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at http://www.abovetopsecret.com) is ‘consensus cracking.’ To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made – but the critical point is that it has a very weak premise without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is Imperative that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger ‘evidence’ or disinformation in your favour is slowly ‘seeded in.’ Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then ‘abort’ the consensus cracking by initiating a ‘forum slide.’
Technique #3 – ‘Topic Dilution’
Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a ‘Resource Burn.’ By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’ In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to ‘drive in the wedge.’ By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.
Technique #4 – ‘Information Collection’
Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a ‘show you mine so me yours’ posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your ‘favourite weapon’ and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite ‘technique of operation.’ From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.
Technique #5 – ‘Anger Trolling’
Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes – without the requirement to ‘stage’ a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to ‘lead’ the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you ‘do not care what the authorities think!!’ inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.
Technique #6 – ‘Gaining Full Con-trol’
It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings – and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the ‘ultimate victory’ as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a ‘honey pot’ gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
Conclusion
Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants do not know about them. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
Yes, indeed, I found the comment very informative, and so, I recommended it to a friend, although I did not answered the anonymous commenter, since I was quite busy the day he/she posted it.
Anyway, this comment had been previously posted in this blog quite time before in another thread where people was expressing suspicions about certain alternative media sites.
whew…I am glad that Saker has good moderators!
I’ve seen several of these methods used on this forum, mainly but not only the flooding of threads with reams of useless verbiage and endless posts of links followed by the contents of the links, this being quite redundant since the reader already has the link for the information. Reading between the lines the elevation to moderator status of a troll seems to be what killed Saker.de.
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COINTELPRO is still in operation today under a different code name. It is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the freedom of information act.
The FBI counterintelligence program’s stated purpose: To expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize individuals who the FBI categorize as opposed to the National Interests. “National Security” means the FBI’s security from the people ever finding out the vicious things it does in violation of people’s civil liberties.
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression
Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.
1. Dummy up. If it’s not reported, if it’s not news, it didn’t happen.
2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the “How dare you?” gambit.
3. Characterize the charges as “rumors” or, better yet, “wild rumors.” If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through “rumors.” (If they tend to believe the “rumors” it must be because they are simply “paranoid” or “hysterical.”)
4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.
5. Call the skeptics names like “conspiracy theorist,” “nutcase,” “ranter,” “kook,” “crackpot,” and, of course, “rumor monger.” Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the “more reasonable” government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own “skeptics” to shoot down.
6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).
7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.
8. Dismiss the charges as “old news.”
9. Come half-clean. This is also known as “confession and avoidance” or “taking the limited hangout route.” This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal “mistakes.” This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.
10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.
11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster “suicide” note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven’t reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.
12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?
13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.
14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as “bump and run” reporting.
15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the “facts” furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.
16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges “expose” scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.
17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, “What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?” Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.
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Government Trolls Are Using “Psychology-Based Influence Techniques” On Blogs, Newspapers and Social Media
Have you ever come across someone on the Internet that you suspected was a paid government troll?
Well, there is a very good chance that you were not imagining things. Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have solid proof that paid government trolls are using “psychology-based influence techniques” on social media websites such as Blogs, Newspapers, YouTube, Facebook and Twitter.
Documents leaked by Snowden also reveal that government agents have been conducting denial-of-service attacks, flooding social media websites with thinly veiled propaganda and have been purposely warping public discourse online. This kind of Orwellian behavior, is only going to get worse and worse.
It now seems that for many years all comments in the UK Guardian Newspaper are written by Government Propagandist Trolls.
Snowden said in the UK, the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG) is a specialized unit within the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). This particular specialized unit is engaged in some very “questionable” online activities. The following is an excerpt from a recent piece by Glenn Greenwald and Andrew Fishman…
Also, the “same-same” argument. Like: “ok, US leaders are corrupt, but if you think that there is any world leader that is not as corrupt as they are, you are gullible. They are all the same”
Would be very entertaining, even profound, if our moderator picks up several examples of aforementioned trollisms and offer his/her comment/analysis how it was detected.
Thanks in advance, Spiral
Thanks everyone all for your information..I understand better what happened during the Mavi Mamara ( thanks Elsi for the correction) discussion on the Yahoo politics forum of the Israeli attack in International waters.
Jeez, it was like there were only two of us almost standing back to back who were talking facts and challenging the so-called “international law” experts and those who quibbled between the meaning of a siege and a blockade. The attack was 200km at sea far from any coastal waters but they made that irrelevant in a very clever way.
Hmmm so when I went “right brain” and did a mock piece about the “real” story of the IDF with “paint balls at Entebbe and teddy bears for Afghanistan” my one ally got all freaked out . sigh. Then,I realized it was a lost cause as our posts got buried and swamped by rambling, repetitive posts filled with non sequitors about how awful Arafat was etc. etc.
But the operatives did read our posts and from them gleaned better twisted arguments for their side. I will never participate in an non moderated forum again if I can help it.
Now I know to speak with two voices that say the same thing because the right brain by its nature especially on such an abstract mental forum as an internet cafe can be misunderstood and I learned to appreciate good moderation because it is the beating heart of an effective, truthful, powerful site.
I’m sorry to hear about Dagmar and the German site.
Humility is a hard one in political as well as spiritual as well as personal life. One of my Buddhist teachers said arrogance was a result of ignorance–our feeling that personal identification with what we think we are is set in stone but my Christian teachers were more proactive and like the beginning point of a chemical reaction took it from the start —that it is a part of character that should be gently blown into being within and once established held there against the assaults of ego( false personality).
Yes, but what about the egos of people who are Christians, conservatives or right wing oriented, do you find anything wrong with the egos of those people also, or are only left wing people who always have problems with their ego?
I, for example, since now some here told every day against ideology, while for me it is cristal clear what their ideology is, do not understand in what way you link an excess of ego with ideology, curiously a discourse mantained by several people here, as well as the discourse about the “right brain”, btw, since, for the time being, quite a bit already, I have not seen anybody here without ideology.
Elsi:
How do you tell that everyone has an “ideology” and what that is?
Many people do announce their belief systems directly, or imply they indirectly.
But others do not.
And, how are you defining “ideology”? Religiouis? Political? Economic?
Most people do have viewpoints, often evolving, about the world around them. If this means “to have an ideology” and that is a negative, then most throughtful people are inside the “ideology” tent, which seems to be the wrong place to be . . .
Regarding trolls, would this problem be partly improved if actual names were required for people to post a comment? I suppose people could chnage their names at will, but surely someone within the cyber-belly of the blog could see this?
Katherine
Of course, I include religious, political and economic aspects in any ideology, since ideologies are no other thing than projects for a society to develop, and no other thing is what I see here in this blog coming from almost all here
Obviously, since we are fighting the Empire´s war on Russia, and Russia in clearly antifascist, well, some ideologies are more acceptable to be shown directly than others.
And, besides, it is a matter of personality, if you like or use to be clear in your life all the way and besides do not have anything to hide nor anybody to confuse, you must probably will show which your ideas are, without round-ups, since the beginning. Well, I can understand someone´s reserves with sharing in the net its real views, but not in a supposed community, mainly when you have passed there quite a time and when you feel trust in the community. I felt that way and so I have shown my ideas openly.
For me is the most honest thing to do.
I would accept an absence of ideology if the commentariat was much more younger, but, since I am aware that here it is not the case, but besides, I would venture the age of the average commentator is quite elder, there is no way that we have here people without ideology.
From my point of view there are strong ideologies here, some totally opposite, then you have the people who is more tolerant and more willing to accept the other point of view.
From my part, I accept any ideology everytime mine is also respected, except Nazi ideology, for me this is a “red line” and in this I have clear which organizations belong in this category, be it by their program, history, alliances, or methods of approaching people being myself quite grown already so as to know.
“From my part, I accept any ideology everytime mine is also respected, except Nazi ideology, for me this is a “red line”
elsi, to be sure, some of your knowledge of history is better than mine but ideologies can cover a multitude of ideas and sometimes the ideas of seemingly opposite ideologies are more the same than different.
If this article reasonably describes the tenets of Nazism – can you state, item by item, where your red line exists? are you more “Nazi” than you already imagine?
http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/nazi-ideology/
Authoritarianism. The Nazis desired strong government and extensive state power. They believed that government could not function effectively if it lacked the means to impose itself on society and enforce its policies.
Totalitarianism. To the Nazis, state power had few limits and could extend into all aspects of German political, social and cultural life. They believed it was the government’s duty not just to devise policy but to shape, co-ordinate and regulate society, for the betterment of the nation.
Nationalism. Nazism was first and foremost a nationalist ideology. It was concerned only with Germany and German interests: restoring the German economy, achieving economic self sufficiency, rebuilding its military and providing for the German people.
Militarism. Hitler and his followers believed that re-arming and expanding Germany’s armed forces was essential for the defence of the nation. Rearmament would be carried out in defiance of the restrictions imposed by the Treaty of Versailles.
Expansionism. The Nazis in general, and Hitler in particular, dreamed of unifying the German-speaking Aryan peoples of Europe, into a greater German state. To achieve this, Hitler believed his regime would need to acquire lebensraum, or ‘living space’, to accommodate the needs of the new Germany.
A ‘third way’. The horrors of World War I and the global economic crisis of the late 1920s saw many people reject existing political and economic systems, such as parliamentary democracy and capitalism. Socialism emerged as one alternative system – however both Nazism and fascism considered themselves a ‘third way’, an alternative to both democracy and socialism.
Economic sovereignty. Economic power, prosperity and self sufficiency were priorities for the NSDAP. The Nazis sought the creation of jobs for unemployed Germans, the restoration of national prosperity, the recovery of industrial production and the rearming of the military.
Traditional values. Tradition was a strong element in Nazi ideology. The Nazis often painted themselves as a new movement – but they were not averse to promoting or exploiting traditional values.
Racialism. Their dark obsession with race separated Hitler and the Nazis from many other fascist and nationalist groups. The Nazis considered Aryans – those of Nordic heritage, with blonde hair and blue eyes – to be Europe’s ‘master race’.
Volksgemeinschaft. Translating as ‘people’s community’, Volksgemeinschaft did not originate with the Nazis but emerged from the difficult years of World War I. The principle of volksgemeinschaft was that all Germans should unite and work together to reduce differences in class, wealth and standards of living.
Right wing or left wing?
nazi ideology
In the ‘horseshoe theory’ the extreme ends are closer to each other
One question often asked of Nazism: was it a right wing or left wing ideology? A majority of historians suggest that Nazism and fascism occupied the far right wing of the political spectrum, while socialism occupied the far left. The truth, however, is more complex. Some historians and political commenters suggest Nazism had more common with Stalinist socialism than with conservatism. Both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia had totalitarian leaders; both regimes placed the needs of the state over those of the individual; and both harnessed the economy to meet national priorities. But there were also key differences, particularly economic. Private ownership of capital was permitted in Nazi Germany but outlawed in Soviet Russia. Both Hitler and Stalin sought to revive industrial production but used significantly different approaches. Both had different views and policies pertaining to class, race and gender. The French philosopher Jean-Pierre Faye suggests that Nazism and socialism occupied different ends of a horseshoe, being radically different yet also quite similar.
There is nothing in the program you are presenting above which I would support anytime in my life, since has nothing of socialism/communism. Stalin behaved as he did in the circumstances he lived, and so, his government hardly could be the model of any socilaist/communist nation today. Of course, as it is happening to Russia now, maybe some of his meassures could have to be adopted also today in case of open confrontation/blockade/besiege by enemy powers.
I am not going to write here the Socialist/Communist program since it is very well known by any average and honest adult commenter here. In case you do not know, search the net and you will find it. The best test to know that a Nazi and a Communist ar the opposite is seeing how along history Nazis has gone hunting Communists any time they have grabed any hint of power. Nowadays, some so called “Land of Liberties” or “Western democracies”, are actually ruled by Nazi people/powers, and so, they have passed the years coming from the finish of WWII and most concretelly after the falling of the USSR, erasing any trail of socialism/communism from the surface of Earth. So called social-democratic parties in Europe have nothing of socialist as havs been finally probed when the opportunity to betray the working classe has come.
It has been the job of certain far-right movements hired by the AngloZionist Empire´s intelligence services to intend equaling Nazism with Communism by adopting in the sub.organizations of these movements names historically belonging/used by socialist, communist and labour organizations ( Unions ). That is the case of the LaRouche Pac movement..
Nazi party in Germany, after playing the “socialist” to grab power, immediatelly after it grabed, and burned the Reichstagerased all theconstitutional liberties remaining from the Weimar Republic by decrees, and since the very first minutes in power decreted the hunting of communists in all the corners of Germany by the “Enabling Law”, knowing that these, their well organized and commited members, would be the most ferocious opposition they will have and the only ones able to bring them down. The hunting of Jews came some time after. Obvioulsy, some Jews were also communist and so, by double reason, racial and ideological, persecuted, confined in camps and extermined.
“Stalin behaved as he did in the circumstances he lived, and so, his government hardly could be the model of any socilaist/communist nation today.”
Martin would say the walls needed to be built higher – I disagreed, but i’m not sure that he wasn’t correct.
“I am not going to write here the Socialist/Communist program since it is very well known by any average and honest adult commenter here.”
Well, if you wish to examine Stalin(ism) as the prime example of Socialism/Communism, here’s one of the first items in a debate about that https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1085106&sid=005ef8ace2b16a106a177f8bd09022c1#p1085106
Quote:
“Stalinism, whether you consider it to be a form of Communism or not, has much more in common with Fascism than Marxism.
The Stalinist Soviet Union, (c. 1920s to 1940s) shared the four major pillars of fascism: Authoritarianism, nationalism, militarism, and preserved class hierarchy.
Stalin, clearly was a social authoritarian, this isn’t even debatable IMO.
Nationalism in the Soviet Union, while not standing out in history as that of Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy, was still rampant. There was extensive propaganda encouraging praise of Mother Russia, calling on the Soviets to Protect their Motherland, in the Great Patriotic War…
…which leads to Militarism. The Red Army was huge, and military and Political Commissars were supreme.
Finally, and the most important distinction IMO between fascist Stalinism and Marxist Communism… was the preserved class hierarchy. Most branches of Fascism include an extreme fixed heierarchy, whether the elite class was the Leader, the Military, the Capitalists, or just the State… the USSR under Stalin definitely had this. The “Communist” Party of the Soviet Union was an elite class of its own… while the rest of the people were left in dire conditions… something that the Revolution sought to put an end to. “
The point is elsi, I personally agree with some of what this Quote reflects while disagreeing with part of it also. It is absolutely not clear cut to any average (myself I guess & others) and honest (myself I guess & others) adult commenter here that, for example, Stalin’s flavour of Socialism/Communism did not exhibit (even if they were, in my pinion, required) tenets of Nazism as defined in my previous list.
My opinion is that what happened after Stalin (the breakdown of Socialism/Communism) was an accident waiting to happen – a recent comment by earthrise and a following comment by someone eloquently described the fundamental human problem as power (and it’s attendant traitor: money).
To that extent, was the downfall of Stalinism not created by Stalin himself (even if well intentioned) e.g
http://www.workersliberty.org/node/8159v
Quote:
“Russia was modernised nevertheless, and built into the second power in the world today, without going back to capitalism or going ahead to socialism. The new Stalinist bureaucracy developed into a new ruling class and the social regime it established become a new society of class exploitation and oppression.”
?
As earthrise has hinted, a new paradigm is required since repeating the failures of the past is futile (no matter how well intentioned).
Mine, as yours, is opinion – not truth.
Gee. In reading over the list of “qualities” of naziism, I felt that all of them applied to most Americans except for racialism. Were I a right wing troll, I’d point out that volksgemeinschaft looks suspiciously like Hillary’s village. But since I am only a useful idiot, I’ll state that it Does take a village, and the village people Have spoken.
Conformism at subconscious level leads people to employ most of the techniques you mentioned. Yes, there are trolls. But, majority (my personal experience) is incapable of leading an argumented discussion. So when someone calls for their opinion, they, not wanting to show ignorance, slide into accepted (circulated in MSM) dogma. “Monkey see, monkey do”. That is the crime of MSM. How can you explain to someone that he is being deceived when the “authority figures” say otherwise?
That is why image of monolithic authority is imperative to them. Disagreements are common in every family but somehow they are unheard of when it comes to figures and systems in power?!
I have had a number of discussions with friends when these things popped up. No need to add that their hearts were in the right place but their judgment was clouded (not saying here that i am immune).
The way we conduct arguments is distorted. We are almost never taught proper way to discuss. Instead discussion is shunned as something bad as soon as it heats up a bit(comes close to challenging dogma), equating it with an argument. Let us not argue… And in mine understanding it is dogma. For they are asking for our belief.
I had a number of times when proclaimed atheist responded with “i believe that is so” not backing it up with facts but trying to end the discussion. Look on their faces was priceless when i pointed to them that they are fervent believers in something not backed by facts and at the same time claiming that they are creatures of reason.
Truth is covered by a sugarcoated, but ultimately poisonous, veil.
“The way we conduct arguments is distorted. We are almost never taught proper way to discuss. ”
This is so true. So very often one has to stop in teh middle of a discussion when a participant is in fact showing his or inability to hold a discussion and try to explain tot hem why they are destroying the possibility of a discussion—which in principle should be an interesting mental experience for everyone–and instead it quickly get personal and bullying.
I wish everyone were obliged to take a debating class in school, just to learn how to have a productive discussion. It is clear from whatching USA TV that this intellectual discipline has flown out the window in favor of “rigged questions” (Don’t you think that . . .; Isn’t it true that . . .: How can you deny that . . .; etc.) and outright brow beating.
Katherine
An example of Technique #1 – ‘Forum Sliding’ of the comment from Anonymous on November 07, 2016 at 5:52 pm UTC –
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Hillary the Anti Christ!! – Ritual Child Rape, Pedophilia and Ritual Child Sacrifice
FBI Agents: Hillary Is The “Antichrist Personified” | Zero Hedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/fbi-agents-view-hillary-antichrist
3 days ago – The currently serving FBI agent said Clinton is “the antichrist personified to a large swath of FBI personnel,” and that “the reason why they’re …
The hidden Voodoo life of the Clintons revealed. Autobiography of Bill Clinton admits to Voodoo cult Rituals and demon possession experiences in Haiti and New Orleans
http://www.infowars.com/insider-clintons-caught-conducting-voodoo/
And not only Satanic Control. Hillary, Obama, Presidential models are only allowed if they have been mind controlled – MKUltra Mind Control Hypnotism, Drugs and Trauma – an upgrade on hidden psychic technologies used for thousands of years.
For 10,000 Years, Ritual Homosexuality, Ritual Pedophilia and Ritual Human Sacrifice follows Satanism like a Stench!! Podesta – Wikileaks Email 46736, Podesta Hot Tub Party With Kids
Podesta Clinton Pedophile Child Rape Party
From the email: >> With enormous gratitude to Advance Man Extraordinaire Haber, I am popping >> up again to share our excitement about the Reprise of Our Gang’s visit to >> the farm in Lovettsville. And I thought I’d share a couple more notes: >> We plan to heat the pool, so a swim is a possibility. Bonnie will be >> Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and >> almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in >> that pool for sure. And with the forecast showing prospects of some sun, >> and a cooler temp of lower 60s, I suggest you bring sweaters of whatever >> attire will enable us to use our outdoor table with a pergola overhead so >> we dine al fresco (and ideally not al-CHILLo).
Note that there are nine ‘Forum Sliding’ replies containing diluting gossip to the comment prior to it on /moveable-feast-cafe-2016-11-07/comment-page-1/#comment-291249
And all of these comments below were added after the comment above to forum slide it.
ioan on November 07, 2016 · at 7:31 pm UTC
Anonymous on November 08, 2016 · at 10:06 am UTC
Bro 93 on November 07, 2016 · at 7:04 pm UTC
elsi on November 07, 2016 · at 11:13 pm UTC
plainsman on November 08, 2016 · at 12:42 am UTC
franz on November 08, 2016 · at 12:43 am UTC
elsi on November 08, 2016 · at 1:12 am UTC
Babushka in Oz on November 07, 2016 · at 11:27 pm UTC
elsi on November 08, 2016 · at 12:09 am UTC
Anonymous on November 05, 2016 · at 7:48 pm UTC – How To Identify Trolls And Forum Spies
(Cryptome) Cointelpro Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum. There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of an ‘uncontrolled forum.’
Technique #1 – ‘Forum Sliding’
If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum – it can be quickly removed from public view by ‘forum sliding.’ In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to ‘age.’ Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a ‘forum slide.’ The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a ‘forum slide’ and ‘flush’ the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then ‘replying’ to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting ‘slides’ down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.
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Technique #6 – ‘Gaining Full Con-Troll’
It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings – and one can
eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the ‘ultimate victory’ as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms.
Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a ‘honey pot’ gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
You probably would have had a comment of mine to post there as well.If I had noticed that post before. The “charges” I see there are too ridiculous to even respond on. The facts are, the US empire and its minions are easily evil enough for us to hate and comment on.But there are redlines of believably that no serious person crosses.And those articles cross those lines. What is next,”Obama eats white kids for breakfast” .Or “Hillary and Bill caught performing a human sacrifice to summon demons from hell to vote “. Its those type of articles that “actually” may be a method of hasbara, to subvert the internet.People posting outlandish,over the top, unbelievable BS,and it discredits “legitimate” articles exposing “provable” and the “true” actions of the Western crime bosses.That is a threat that must be watched out for at all times. If we see reports of things that commonsense tells you couldn’t happen. Then it probably didn’t. And we must ask ourselves,what is the motive for those reports.Are they just made by someone lacking in commonsense,and explained that way. Or, are they posted as hasbara to confuse people,and get them to doubt even “real” believable facts.
Yes, but these articles were in line also with the discourse of one or some anonymous, difficult to know since anonymous, and others well known with a name, as was pointed out the other day by another anonymous.
5. Call the skeptics names like “conspiracy theorist,” “nutcase,” “ranter,” “kook,” “crackpot,” and, of course, “rumor monger.” Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the “more reasonable” government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own “skeptics” to shoot down.
5. Call the skeptics names like “conspiracy theorist,” “nutcase,” “ranter,” “kook,” “crackpot,” and, of course, “rumor monger.” Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the “more reasonable” government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own “skeptics” to shoot down.
Anonymous on September 03, 2016 · at 6:22 pm UTC
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British Agent Mazzini working for Lord Palmerston, First Minister working for the King created many terrorist organisations all over every country in Europe – all against the Empires in charge of Europe at the time as you can read in Doctor Webster Griffin Tarpley’s “Human Zoo” article.
Of course these British inspired “Freedom Fighters” wanted to destroy the evil regimes in charge – The Hapsburg Empire as written above, Italy and the Ottoman Empire with Mazzini’s Young Turks organisation etc
And it is not just Mazzini. It is also British created Freemasonry which created the French Revolution. Jeremy Bentham was head of British Secret Services working for Lord Shelburne – head of the British East India Company and Prime Minister of Britain. Satanic Bentham was writing Robespierre’s speeches from London.
You think that Napoleon destroying all the countries of Europe was an accident?
You think Hitler, Lenin, Mao and Stalin were working alone?
You think Soros with all his NGO’s is working alone?
Where are these Empires now?
Where is the Russian Empire destroyed by British Agent Karl Marx’s “Das Capital” written in London for the British secret services and designed to topple and destroy Empires like Russia and China.
You think Hybrid warfare is new?
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Uncle Bob 1 on September 03, 2016 · at 7:56 pm UTC
Do you really believe the Italians,French,and Russians (over several different centuries as well) needed the British to show them their countries needed freedom. And had immense problems in society. That in ages with no internet,no TV,no Radio,few newspapers. And where a majority of people were illiterate.Needed to be subverted by British agents like that. The British always wanted a “balance” of power in Europe. They wanted a strong Austria to balance against France and Russia. Later they wanted France and Russia to balance against a strong Germany.There is no doubt that they had agents working in Europe for centuries. But that they “caused” those revolutions is laughable.And that they wrote Robespierre’s speeches for him is,well beyond laughable.Its just “conspiracy” theories like that that allow the empire to ridicule true events and hide them by calling them all “conspiracy theories”.
Anonymous on September 03, 2016 · at 9:52 pm UTC
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Dr Webster Griffin Tarpley on Mazzini
http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/lord-palmerstons-multicultural-human-zoo/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G2BkV3cL9Y
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1994/eirv21n16-19940415/eirv21n16-19940415_006-palmerstons_london_during_the_18.pdf
The Satanic Psychopathic Palmerston, Prime Minister of the British Empire circa 1850 – and his Three Satanic Psychopathic British Agents, Mazzini, Urquhart and Napoleon III
Exerpts..
“Indeed. On Feb. 21, 1854, this crew will come together at the home of the American consul, George Sanders: Mazzini, Felice Orsini, Garibaldi, Louis Kossuth, Arnold Ruge, Ledru-Rollin, Stanley Worcell, Aleksandr Herzen, and U.S. traitor and future President James Buchanan. There will also be a Peabody from the counting house.
We can think of Mazzini as the zookeeper of a universal human zoo. Mazzini’s human zoo is divided into theme parks or pavilions, one for each ethnic group. In a normal zoo there is an elephant house, a monkey house, an alligator pond, and the like. In Mazzini’s human zoo there is an Italian house, a Russian house, a Hungarian house, a Polish house, an American house. Let us walk through the various theme parks in the zoo and identify some of the specimens.
Young Italy, as we have seen, was founded in 1831, attracting the young sailor Giuseppe Garibaldi and Louis Napoleon. Shortly thereafter there followed Young Poland, whose leaders included the revolutionaries Lelewel and Worcell. Then came Young Germany, featuring Arnold Ruge, who had published some material by an obscure German “red republican” named Karl Marx. This is the Young Germany satirized by Heinrich Heine. In 1834, Mazzini founded “Young Europe,” with Italian, Swiss, German, and Polish components. Young Europe was billed as the Holy Alliance of the Peoples, opposed to Metternich’s Holy Alliance of despots. By 1835, there was also a Young Switzerland. In that same year Mazzini launched Young France. The guiding light here was Ledru-Rollin, who later became the interior minister in Lamartine’s short-lived Second French Republic of 1848. There was also Young Corsica, which was the Mafia.
By the end of this century we will have a Young Argentina (founded by Garibaldi), Young Bosnia, Young India, Young Russia, Young Armenia, Young Egypt, the Young Czechs, plus similar groupings in Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Greece. Mazzini is especially interested in creating a south Slavic federation dominated by Belgrade, and for that reason, he has a Serbian organization. That will have to wait for Mazzini’s student Woodrow Wilson and the Versailles peace conference of 1919. Right now, a Masonic group in the United States is gearing up to support the pro-slavery doughface Franklin Pierce for President in 1852; they are the radical wing of the Democratic Party, and they call themselves Young America. In the future there will be the Young Turks. And yes, there is also a Palmerston- Mazzini group for Jews, sometimes called Young Israel, and sometimes called B’nai B’rith.”
“Shelburne unleashes Jacobins against France
Even with matters still unresolved in North America, Shelburne and Bentham turned their attention to another critical front across the English Channel in France. The Seven Years’ War of 1756-63 had stripped France of its once formidable maritime capacity. Shelburne now sought to destroy France as an economic and military rival on the continent. From the outset, the Jacobin Terror was a British East India Company-, British Foreign Office-orchestrated affair. The bloody massacre of France’s scientific elite was systematically carried out by French hands, manning French guillotines, but guided by British strings.
Jacques Necker, a Geneva-born, Protestant, slavishly pro-British banker, had been installed through the efforts of Shelburne’s leading ally in France, Philippe Duke of Orléans, as finance minister. Necker’s daughter, the infamous Madame de Staël, would later run one of Shelburne’s most important Parisian salons.
Although Necker had failed to block France from allying with the Americans during the American Revolution, he did succeed in presiding over the depletion of the French treasury and the collapse of its credit system, as in the USA today.
Economic crisis across France was the precondition for political chaos and insurrection, and Shelburne readied the projected destabilization by creating a “radical writers’ shop” at Bowood staffed by Bentham, the Genevan Etienne Dumont, and the Englishman Samuel Romilly.
Speeches were prepared by Bentham and translated and transported by diplomatic pouch and other means to Paris, where leaders of the Jacobin Terror, Jean-Paul Marat, Georges Jacques Danton, and Maximilien de Robespierre delivered the fiery oratories. Records of East India Company payments to these leading Jacobins are still on file at the British Museum.”
“How interesting that Urquhart should be the controller of British agent Karl Marx, who earns his keep as a writer for Urquhart’s paper. David Urquhart is the founder of modern communism! It is Urquhart who will prescribe the plan for “Das Kapital.” Marx is a professed admirer of Urquhart – acknowledging his influence more than that of any other living person. Marx will even compose a “Life of Lord Palmerston,” based on Urquhart’s wild obsession that Pam is a Russian agent of influence. This says enough about Marx’s acumen as a political analyst. Marx and Urquhart agree that there is no real absolute profit in capitalism, and that technological progress causes a falling rate of profit.”
Excerpt from Spanish wikipedia about Mazzini:
“In an interview with R. Landor to Karl Marx in 1871, Marx said that Mazzini’s ideas are “nothing other than the old idea of a middle-class republic.” Especially after the revolutions of 1848, Marx believed that the middle-class Mazzini view was reactionary and that the proletariat had nothing to do with it. In another interview, Marx referred to Mazzini as “that recalcitrant idiot” . Miguel de Unamuno in his book How to Make a Novel, refers to Mazzini saying “” Mazzini’s poetry was history, its history, that of Italy, which was his mother and his daughter. “
I did not even know about Mazzini, since I usually scrolled down these anonymous´comments, but I found others citing Webster Tarpley…..
I must add here, that Miguel de Unamuno supported the coup of Franco which gave place to 40 years of fascist dictature in Spain, whose victims lay still in the sideroads. After an incident at the Auditorium of Salamanca University whith the fascist General Millán Astray, perhaps being aware what kind of beasts he has helped to rise to power, it is said that he died in the following two months.
For honest people here to understand….
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elsi on November 04, 2016 · at 3:54 pm UTC
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To know the lies on that article or others in the Western media you only have to go there, to BBC or others, and read it. What kind of suggestion is this?
Pitiyfully, I see that this blog is being taking over by trolls, as that anonymous above who keeps repeating from months ago that absurd story about Mao without adding anything that could probe his point. Just the other day I read a mod telling one commenter that his “comment was not published because here they do not want one-liners”. And what about the one- line of this anonymous repeating one day after another the same post about absurd theories on Mao, Satanic whatever and so on?
Mao did kill 80 Million People!!
He was educated by Satanic Skull and Bones Yalesmen – A School of Yale University in China – and the CIA. Google Mao Yale CIA..
He was also a Satanic 33rd Degree Luciferian Mason. He had Alumni of Yale University in his Government as Ministers. He was put into power by the CIA in opposition to poisoned/assassinated Sun Yat Sen.
For 10,000 Years, Ritual Homosexuality, Ritual Pedophilia and Ritual Human Sacrifice follows Satanism like a Stench!! Human Sacrifice – Lives for Satan!! 80 Million Lives!! Dead!!
Google Searches..
Cultural Revolution – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution
Jump to Death of Mao and Arrest of the Gang of Four – In the top leadership, it led to a mass purge of senior officials, most notably Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping. … After Mao’s death and the arrest of the Gang of Four in 1976, reformers led by Deng Xiaoping gradually began to dismantle the Maoist policies associated with the Cultural Revolution.
Mao’s Great Leap Forward ‘killed 45 million in four years’ | The …
http://www.independent.co.uk › Culture › Books › News
Sep 17, 2010 – Mao’s Great Leap Forward ‘killed 45 million in four years’ … People were forced to work naked in the middle of winter; 80 per cent of all the …
Mao Zedong – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong
Mao Zedong or Mao Tse-tung also known as Chairman Mao, was a Chinese communist … The campaign contributed to a widespread famine, whose death toll is … who was responsible for an estimated 40 to 70 million deaths through starvation, …. Desiring personal and societal transformation, the Society gained 70–80 …
Scholars Continue to Reveal Mao’s Monstrosities – Paul Bogdanor
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left/china/deaths2.html
Exiled Chinese historians emerge with evidence of cannibalism and up to 80 … 60 million to 80 million people may have died because of Mao’s policies-making …
How did Mao manage to kill ~78 million people? – Quora
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Mao-manage-to-kill-78-million-people
Jul 21, 2015 – I’m researching this extraordinary claim for a book and I’ll add to my answer as I … 22 million Chinese died of starvation during World War II thanks to Japanese imperialism and the murderous U.S.-backed regime. (Associated …
Madman who starved 60 million to death: Devastating book reveals …
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Madman-starved-60-million-death-Devastating-book-reveals...
Jul 22, 2011 – A starving child under the Mao regime holding out an empty rice bowl … Epic history of Chinese famine in which 45 million starved to death …
The Legacy of Mao Zedong is Mass Murder – Heritage Foundation
http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/…/the-legacy-of-mao-zedong-is-mass-murder
Feb 2, 2010 – According to the authoritative “Black Book of Communism,” an estimated 65 million Chinese died as a result of Mao’s repeated, merciless …
Twentieth Century Atlas – Death Tolls – Necrometrics
necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm
Jump to Mao – Estimates of the death toll from the Great Leap Forward, 1959-61: Judith Banister, China’s …. 80 million total as a result of Mao’s policies.
The worst genocides of the 20th and 21st Century – Piero Scaruffi
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
Nonetheless, all books on Mao published in the West routinely talk of millions killed under Mao. But there is really no study to justify those numbers. Whenever …
Scholars Continue to Reveal Mao’s Monstrosities : Asia: Exiled …
articles.latimes.com › Collections
Nov 20, 1994 – He died without a name, becoming another statistic among millions. … many as 60 million to 80 million people may have died because of Mao’s …
This was Millán Astray:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3MHtHv7HR8
Thanks for that injection of sanity Uncle Bob.
Looked like a bunch of ott disinfo to me, especially the repetition: that’s standard bot ‘behavior.’
I glided over it, noting it is not the first time it’s been posted.
In my view, this is a trap designed to lure unwary posters into some ‘dialogue’, that may partially agree with aspects along * general* lines re the nature of evil: such discussions are not rare here.
By drawing the unwary in, the whole site becomes ‘tainted’ and loses credibility as a serious expose of the harmful, and yes evil nature of the current empire.
There is indeed plenty to expose on a credible basis without entering into the realm of such speculation.
This does not mean there is no ‘satanic’ aspect to the evil of empire, but it’s reality is a good deal more mundane / mainly in the area of human trafficking, child prostitition and the sexualization of children through institutions originally designed to protect from predation, most evident these days in the perversion of ‘sex-education.’
These are evident and require no ‘dramatic’ suppositions or conspiracy theories – they are ‘hidden in plain sight.’
Eimar said: “Looked like a bunch of ott disinfo to me, especially the repetition: that’s standard bot ‘behavior.’”
I would suggest that these articles, (which I no longer read having read and been irritated by the first few) are specifically crafted with these emotive, capitalised, keyword phrases (‘Ritual Homosexuality’, ‘Ritual Pedophilia’, ‘Ritual Human Sacrifice’, ‘Satanism’ etc, etc.)
The purpose, along with the cut and paste repetition, is to game the search engines and ensure that The Saker attracts more of the deranged type of person who searches for such stuff and eventually drowns out and buries any serious discussion while at the same time discrediting the really truthful revelations available here.
I’ve seen the same thing happen on an anti-cult website and think it dangerous if it is allowed to continue.
The comments you singled out as being “forum sliding” appear BEFORE and not after the flagged comment, and they are part of an argument/heated discussion. How is this “forum sliding”? Is “forum sliding” a fancy word for being “off topic”?
Quoting Anon: “And all of these comments below were added after the comment above to forum slide it.”
The list includes my name… I reject this accusation of forum sliding/trolling.
Yet the ubiquitous Anonymous floods the discussion with reams of script… thus by his/her own actions gives an example of trolling.
Forum Sliding refers to the technique of pushing the target post off the first page of a threaded forum or way down a long page of comments so that casual readers will never even see the post in question. (People rarely go past the first page of Google results, forums, etc.)
This technique works better on threaded forums that are sorted by the date of the last post because you can just post a new response to an old topic and it goes above target post. Revive 20-30 old topics and the target post falls off the front page.
That said, a lot of the posts designed to waste the space above the target post are likely to be controversial nonsense which will provoke the “locals” to respond, and thus waste more space. So, yeah, a lot of people on that list are innocent victims rather than sockpuppets.
Wikipedia is generally a tool of disinformation but they have a lot of experience with sockpuppets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29
Also when the forum is taken over by one paranoid person with outbursts of bitterness and complaints about everyone else ganging up against that person.
This sounds to me a lot like what is called “tone policing”: People start filing a thread with discussion of a commenter’s tone, instead of sticking to the topic of the thread itself. Which then neutralizes the original topic and throws the hwhole thing off in the pointless discussion of “acceptable” tone.
A question: Ar eyou saying that the people who pile on comments above the comment targeted for “sliding” are complicit, or unwitting agents?
Katherine
After years of “dealing” with zionist hasbara agents,I’ve seen a couple of the methods they like to use. I think they have “refined” them much more over the years. But they still have a few ” old standbys” to watch out for. 1. “insulting”,they almost “always” use this one.If you post a comment against them,they hit you right at the start with insults.The viler the better.Hoping that will shut you up.And if that one doesn’t work. There is 2.”more information”. You post a well known fact,and they “pretend” to accept it. But then constantly want “more information”.The idea behind that is to keep you busy with researching and debating that “one topic”.And not posting on other topics.Another method,3,is “pretence”. I’ve seen from them “pretend” to be a supporter of one side,but to post so outlandish of comments that they discredit supporters of that side.Making it appear that side are all idiots. There are exceptions of course in any debating on the internet.But if you constantly see those things happening, the chances are good there are habara trolls at work.
Uncle Bob 1, I have dealt with number 1 many times too, both online and in ‘real world’ social situations (although I didn’t know the hasbara part – had to look that word up just now). I call this the “shock and awe” strategy – to me, that’s exactly what it’s like when you’re on the receiving end of it. And yes, it is vicious. However, if you can withstand the initial assault (verbal, in this case), then it stops or eases off, anyway. That became my goal over time – to just ‘hang on’ until the easing off part. (This takes tremendous self-confidence and self-control – it’s not fun). To me, the perpetrator would come across as someone with a short attention span, like a goon, who uses words as a blunt object, aimed at the side if the head, but without any thought process, deliberation, behind it. And I would be so glad for that! I also found that “the goon” would always, always speak as if representing a larger group. Intimidation tactic, I suppose.
It’s a very effective way of chasing people out of places, too. Not just on the Internet.
There is a way to defend such things. As we are here on this blog, everything has left traces in words, going back in time. Of course, it takes time to search in the history of multiple conversations and to pick up the sequences of some posts, written by X or Y, to see when and how someone has used or misused this blog in order to made a deliberate negative effect on some users, the main scope is to provoke fear and mistrust. But as I said, the posts are here, and can be read back. Man cannot lie because his traces are there on what X or Y said in different posts and the tendency can be observed very well in time.
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There are a few obvious trolls that the mods let through – pro US establishment, anti Putin ect.
What keeps me coming back to this site is the diversity.
Diversity in articles, diversity in commenters. Religion ideology ect ect.
Not often but sometimes this site falls into group think but occasionally it does and any outside the group think sometimes get labeled as trolls.
So two issues here. 1) Information warfare is known and a solid fact. 2) diversity in commenters.
Life ain’t meant to be easy mods.
Yeah, don’t feed the trolls. They can be very imaginative about how they legitimize smearing the information in a thread, like casually introducing mention of a pejorative disease attacking a disliked world leader.
/special-report-hezbollahs-mechanized-battalion-in-syria/
Still, noting that the remarks are still up, its not clear that the moderation is all that its cracked up to be.
Looks like Hezbollah lost the information war in that round.